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Derek Carr's Visit with The Jets, Bucky's Top 5 Prospects, & Mike Renner Breaking Down Draftees · NFL Now

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Speaker 1: Get to see some of the top prospects trying to
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Speaker 1: Welcome in to Ian Rappaport and Mike. Derek Carr is
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Speaker 1: gonna be making a visit to New York. What can
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Speaker 1: you tell us, Patrick, We told you once Derek Carr
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Speaker 1: became a free agent, Actually he told you he would
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Speaker 1: be able to speak to quote all my friends, That's
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Speaker 1: how he phrased it. What that means is he could
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Speaker 1: talk to all the other thirty one teams. The Raiders
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Speaker 1: had only given him permission to visit the Saints, so
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Speaker 1: he did that one visit before he became a free agent.
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Speaker 1: Now that he's free he's beginning this leg of the
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Speaker 1: tour with the New York Jets. He will visit them
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Speaker 1: this weekend. The Jets employee Todd Downing, who was his
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Speaker 1: quarterbacks coach an offensive coordinator for a bit while he
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Speaker 1: was with the Raiders. Car and his camp have been
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Speaker 1: clear that they are going to take their time and
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Speaker 1: evaluate all their options, and their options still include the
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Speaker 1: New Orleans Saints, despite the fact that they didn't agree
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Speaker 1: to that trade. At the time, it was more about
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Speaker 1: I want to become a free agent. I want to
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Speaker 1: explore all my options. I want to go at my
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Speaker 1: own pace. And Ian he's got the luxury of going
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Speaker 1: at his own pace right now because free agency doesn't
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Speaker 1: open until next month, so he's got a couple of
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Speaker 1: weeks now to play with here as he decides his future. Now,
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Speaker 1: this is all about deadlines, right, and Derek Card does
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Speaker 1: not need to make a deal until his deadline, which
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Speaker 1: is basically the start of the tampering period. He wants
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Speaker 1: a leg up on all the other free agent quarterbacks.
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Speaker 1: He has got it. This is now his time to
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Speaker 1: take some visinits, talk to some guys, and see where
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Speaker 1: it all ends. We know, as you mentioned he has
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Speaker 1: visited the New Orleans Saints. Sounds like that went very well.
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Speaker 1: They are very much in the mix here. The Jets
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Speaker 1: make sense too. Although it is obvious that Aaron Rodgers
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Speaker 1: would be their top choice if they had their druthers
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Speaker 1: of free agent quarterbacks, I mean, I think that would
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Speaker 1: be the case for many many teams. Aaron Rodgers is
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Speaker 1: still Aaron Rodgers, and I think Derek Carr knows that
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Speaker 1: going into the visit, Rodgers is in the darkness. We
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Speaker 1: don't know what he is going to do. So if
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Speaker 1: Rogers stays dark, I guess or whatever decides to not
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Speaker 1: be someone who is going to be traded, then Derek
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Speaker 1: carthink makes a ton ton of sense for the Jets.
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Speaker 1: So we will see if he ends up taking another
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Speaker 1: visit after this before coming to his final decision. Alright,
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Speaker 1: moving on again, a man who's no stranger to visits.
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Speaker 1: It's Eric b enemy visiting the commanders. What can you
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Speaker 1: tell us about that? And when might we get a
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Speaker 1: decision for the second straight day? Eric, the enemy is
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Speaker 1: back in the building for the Washington Commanders. Also, I
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Speaker 1: dinner with them the night before yesterday, which I think
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Speaker 1: that would be Wednesday, yesterday is Thursday and today's Friday.
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Speaker 1: I think that's right. So Eric the enemy is still there.
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Speaker 1: It sounds like they are having discussions about tracked in,
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Speaker 1: you know, really trying to close this thing. And I
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Speaker 1: think for the Washington commanders, the enemy is their choice,
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Speaker 1: has always been their choice really probably from the beginning.
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Speaker 1: It's really just a matter of concluding this deal and
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Speaker 1: making sure that he is in fact their offensive coordinator.
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Speaker 1: It is trending in the right direction, but that does
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Speaker 1: not mean it is done. Obviously, what it is, we
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Speaker 1: will bring it to you. But I think for the
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Speaker 1: enemy this makes a lot of sense. Mike. I mean,
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Speaker 1: he's not the primary play call in Kansas City for
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Speaker 1: a defensive head coach, and Ron Rivera he would be.
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Speaker 1: Perhaps that gets him on the head coach track again.
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Speaker 1: Andy Reid has done all he could to tell people
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Speaker 1: publicly and privately that Eric b Enemy plays a huge
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Speaker 1: role in scheming up their offense and calling the plays.
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Speaker 1: But this is the enemy's way of saying, all right,
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Speaker 1: if you still don't believe it, watch me go somewhere
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Speaker 1: else and perform well as an offensive coordinator. Maybe then
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Speaker 1: you will believe it. And if he can work with,
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Speaker 1: whether it's Sam Howe or whoever, versus working with Patrick
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Speaker 1: Mahomes and do well. Certainly he would make his case.
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Speaker 1: And I mentioned Mahomes because, as Matt Nagy, as Ian
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Speaker 1: mentioned on Twitter earlier, is the top candidate to replace
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Speaker 1: the enemy as the offensive coordinator with the Kansas City Chiefs.
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Speaker 1: I know that there were other teams. I gotta stop
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Speaker 1: knocking in the silver. I know there were other teams
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Speaker 1: that showed interest in Naggie for their open offensive coordinator
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Speaker 1: jobs in recent weeks. But Naggie saw how this was
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Speaker 1: potentially going with the enemy and said, do I want
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Speaker 1: an offensive coordinator job with Patrick Mahomes or do I
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Speaker 1: not want Patrick Mahomes with Matt. I'll take Patrick Mahomes,
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Speaker 1: thank you very much. So it's not a shoe in.
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Speaker 1: He's a top candidate. They'll do uh an entire process there,
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Speaker 1: but Matt Nage could very well be the next coordinator
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Speaker 1: of the Kansas City Chiefs. Get to maintain some continuity
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Speaker 1: there After seeing Eric Bani hoist the Lombardi Trophy through
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Speaker 1: the streets of Kansas City for the second time in
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Speaker 1: the last four years, Ian, let's let's look over at
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Speaker 1: some contracts now, Aaron Jones switching his contract around a
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Speaker 1: little bit with Green Bay. What can you tell us there?
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Speaker 1: Aaron Jones took a five million dollar paid cut to
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Speaker 1: stay in Green Bay, which I know sounds like a
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Speaker 1: lot of It is a lot, but it's also kind
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Speaker 1: of always expect and I think from all sides. Brian
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Speaker 1: Goodkins was asked a couple of weeks ago if he
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Speaker 1: expected Aaron Jones back, and he did, and I think
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Speaker 1: most new it just would not be at that number
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Speaker 1: he signed. Originally a four year deal was considered to
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Speaker 1: be a two year deal with some big numbers on
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Speaker 1: the back end, with the thought always that those numbers
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Speaker 1: would be reduced to basically what the first couple of
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Speaker 1: years were. He's still on the books for a twelve
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Speaker 1: million next year. This year is gonna make eleven eight
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Speaker 1: point uh five. Two of that comes to n signing monus.
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Speaker 1: Now he adds his guarantees. Before he had sixteen million
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Speaker 1: dollars on the books, no guarantees. I don't know if
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Speaker 1: anybody cares running this. The main thing is that he's
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Speaker 1: going to return with the Packers at a very reasonable price.
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Speaker 1: So that's good. I carry it. Yeah, Aaron Jones is
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Speaker 1: a nice guy. He deserves his money. I'm glad he's
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Speaker 1: getting some money now as opposed to some hypothetical money later.
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Speaker 1: These are insiders, thanks to you and Rappaport. Mike Garafolo.
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Speaker 1: You gotta know the history of the game if you
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Speaker 1: want to be great. Waltz. Payton's is Erry Sammon's m
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Speaker 1: Smith The Adrian Peterson's gonna be one of grace running back.
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Speaker 1: woman Parkley again? A touchdown, giant kick that one a
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Speaker 1: lot of a lot of I don't you won't airbrate it, Drock,
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Speaker 1: I don't. All right. So these are the notable free
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Speaker 1: agents for the Giants. Most notable Daniel Jones and sa
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Speaker 1: Kwon Barkley. So let's discuss the road ahead for the
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Speaker 1: g men, Judy Batista joining myself and Bucky Brooks. Where
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Speaker 1: do the Giants even start, Judy, Well, they start with
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Speaker 1: Daniel Jones. General manager Joe Shan said at his end
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Speaker 1: of the year press conference, they want Daniel Jones back. Um,
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Speaker 1: He's done everything they asked him to do. That Giants
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Speaker 1: got back to the playoffs this year, won a playoff game.
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Speaker 1: They ideally would like to have him under a multi
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Speaker 1: year contract. They don't want to have to use their
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Speaker 1: franchise tag on him. If they get him under a
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Speaker 1: multi year deal, that would free them to use the
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Speaker 1: franchise tag potentially on Kwan Barkley. Joe Shane was a
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Speaker 1: little bit more noncommittal talking about state kuon Parkleys if
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Speaker 1: we'd like to have in fact, if it works out.
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Speaker 1: So we will see if it works out on a
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Speaker 1: long term deal, but they could also use the franchise
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Speaker 1: tag on Sa Kwan. You know, when you think about
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Speaker 1: stake Kuan and what he brings to the table, he
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Speaker 1: is everything for this offense and I love the offense
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Speaker 1: that Brian day Ball has put together. You think about
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Speaker 1: Mike Kafka and day Ball putting it together so Daniel
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Speaker 1: Jones can have success, say Kwan is a big part
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Speaker 1: of that. Fiscally, it makes sense to go after the
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Speaker 1: quarterback first and then the running back where you look
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Speaker 1: at the franchise tag. Look, it is easier to deal
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Speaker 1: with the franchise tag on running backs than a quarterbacks.
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Speaker 1: And when you think about the mileage that sa Kuon
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Speaker 1: Barkley has all those tires. You just don't know how
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Speaker 1: long do you want to commit for a running back
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Speaker 1: because you don't want to get caught holding the bag.
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Speaker 1: Big contract for running back that stars to decline. That's
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Speaker 1: why the Johnson opted for the quarterback is opposed to
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Speaker 1: the running back in this situation. Over on NFL dot
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Speaker 1: Com is looking at your one point on mock draft.
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Speaker 1: You have them taking the wide receivers A Flowers out
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Speaker 1: of you. See why do you think they need to
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Speaker 1: add out there at the white opposition. I mean, you
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Speaker 1: saw them in the playoffs. Gets to feel it. He
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Speaker 1: goes like they can't score and the only way they're
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Speaker 1: going to be able to score they got an upgrade
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Speaker 1: what they have on the outside. When you saw the
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Speaker 1: free agent list, Look, they're losing a bunch of playmakers
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Speaker 1: on the perimeter and they need to upgrade it. So
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Speaker 1: you need a number one receiver to come in there,
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Speaker 1: whether there's Day Flowers or someone else. You need a
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Speaker 1: true number one on the outside to help Daniel Jones
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Speaker 1: be able to really flourish as a pass and Judy
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Speaker 1: looking at the options here for the Giants and how
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Speaker 1: they build towards What do you see them doing coming
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Speaker 1: up in March. I see them atting playmakers and again
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Speaker 1: I see them keeping Daniel Jones and say Kwan Barkley. Somehow, somehow, somehow,
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Speaker 1: some way, thanks to Judy Batista, as we look at
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Speaker 1: the Giants on the road ahead for their three season,
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Speaker 1: got to try to get out how to keep those
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Speaker 1: two guys around. Speaking of Bucky has a certain quarterback
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Speaker 1: at number one on his top quarterback prospects. It's a
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Speaker 1: Buckeye w a c J. Stroud needs to do to
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Speaker 1: number one on Bucky Brooks Top five quarterback prospects. If
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Speaker 1: let's see it. Because there's only four other names pretty familiar.
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Speaker 1: You will become with these guys. Of course, the Ohio
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Speaker 1: state signal caller is number one. Bryce Young, Bucky's number
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Speaker 1: two quarterback, Hendon Hooker coming off knee surgery, number three
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Speaker 1: Will Love Us out of Kentucky, and and Tanner McKee
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Speaker 1: from Stanford is Bucky's number five quarterbacks. Let's go through
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Speaker 1: this list, because you've got c J. Stroud one, Bryce
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Speaker 1: Young too. Why so, this is really the classic case
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Speaker 1: between Patrick what you call the performer versus the prospect.
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Speaker 1: The performer is Bryce Young because when you watch him play,
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Speaker 1: he plays the game exactly how you want to play. Look,
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Speaker 1: he can make all the throws. He's a terrific field general.
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Speaker 1: He is dazzling in the clutch. The one issue that
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Speaker 1: you have is the size does not necessarily stack up
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Speaker 1: to the prototypical dimensions that you look for, and so
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Speaker 1: durability becomes a concern. And c J. Stroud you have
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Speaker 1: the prospect, because man, he checks off the box boxes
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Speaker 1: from a physical dimension standpoint. When you watch him throw,
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Speaker 1: he's already the best for the most natural passage that
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Speaker 1: you'll see in this draft. When you go back and
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Speaker 1: you look at this tape from the past two years, man,
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Speaker 1: he can dazzle it, he can layer the ball, he
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Speaker 1: can make every throw that you want to see. And
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Speaker 1: so in this debate, you have to go with size. Uh,
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Speaker 1: you have to go with the prototypes. And so that's
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Speaker 1: why I see j Stroud gets the nod over Bryce
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Speaker 1: Young at this point. And that's one of the more
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Speaker 1: common debates you see those two. Not too many people
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Speaker 1: have Will Levis at four behind Hendon Hooker. Why do
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Speaker 1: you have them down there? So here's the thing that
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Speaker 1: Will loves. Will Levis. Will get the comparisons with Josh Allen,
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Speaker 1: and rightfully so, because when you watched them play, you
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Speaker 1: can see similarities in their game, also similarities in their
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Speaker 1: background when it comes to how they had to play
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Speaker 1: with maybe a lesser supporting cast that didn't allow them
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Speaker 1: to fully show off all of their talents. That's it.
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Speaker 1: The guy takes a ton of sacks, he has a
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Speaker 1: bunch of turnovers, and when you watch him, sometimes he
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Speaker 1: locks onto that primary and so while his athleticism can
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Speaker 1: buy sometime and maybe giving him escape. I think it's
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Speaker 1: a lot to say that he is going to be
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Speaker 1: the next Josh Allen. To me, he might be the
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Speaker 1: biggest boom or bust at the position, and so that's
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Speaker 1: why I having four. Yeah, we see guys taking chances
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Speaker 1: on talent. When player exhibits the type of talent some people,
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Speaker 1: sometimes it works take wils sometimes sometimes we don't know.
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Speaker 1: One thing that we have felt pretty confident about over
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Speaker 1: the past couple of years is that Will Anderson would
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Speaker 1: be here in the top one of your top five addressers.
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Speaker 1: We are finally here. What more is there to say
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Speaker 1: about this prospect at Alabama? But he's everything. I mean,
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Speaker 1: he's everything. He's one very productive player coming off the edge.
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Speaker 1: You see him highway speed, you see the athletics as
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Speaker 1: you see the production he has all that he played
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Speaker 1: on the Knicks table who in that machine that they
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Speaker 1: have down in telsclusive they produced a level players in
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Speaker 1: the National Football League. And so to me, he's number one.
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Speaker 1: He's the number one overall prospect in the class. There'll
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Speaker 1: be some debate when it comes to Jayalen Carter, but
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Speaker 1: this guy is a difference maker. And we think about
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Speaker 1: the way the game is. You better have a quarterback
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Speaker 1: and you have to have pass fresh to be able
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Speaker 1: to play at a championship level. We're saying everything that
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Speaker 1: he's done. You have to wonder, um what he could
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Speaker 1: have done if they the talent. We go back to
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Speaker 1: the John Allen the day Ron Paying days. Who haven't
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Speaker 1: had a lot of guys come off of that defensive
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Speaker 1: line in the first one. I think he had the
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Speaker 1: chance to play with Will Anderson could have seen some
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Speaker 1: different type of numbers. But who's who's got a chance
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Speaker 1: to come up the draft board at edge rusher right now?
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Speaker 1: I would say keep an eye on key On White
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Speaker 1: from Georgia Tech. And the reason why is because this
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Speaker 1: guy is a power playoff the edge, but he has
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Speaker 1: outstanding versatility, meaning he could play inside, he could play outside,
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Speaker 1: he can play from a three point, he can play
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Speaker 1: from a stand up position. You will see him come
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Speaker 1: off the edge with straight power Russians, You'll see him
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Speaker 1: loop around it's done. He can play in the games.
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Speaker 1: And what I love about him and where most defensive
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Speaker 1: coaches would love about him, NonStop motor to do this,
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Speaker 1: relentless in his approach. The energy never stops and because
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Speaker 1: of that, he is going to be a guy that
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Speaker 1: always pushes to be a double digit sacked artist every year.
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Speaker 1: I think the versatility gives him a chance to move
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Speaker 1: up the board as we get closer to the draft. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: just a wonderful time of the year as guys have
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Speaker 1: an opportunity to see their stock go through the ceiling.
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Speaker 1: But the past couple of years and now in the
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Speaker 1: second year, we're gonna have some guys that don't normally
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Speaker 1: get a chance to shine, uh Shine not only in
13:48
Speaker 1: the Legacy Bolt, but the second HBCU Combine coming up
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Speaker 1: live Monday at eleven a m. Eastern, showcasing the talent
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Speaker 1: of a hundred HBCU student athletes hoping to earn a
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Speaker 1: roster spot uh two Lanes University's Yulman Stadium. Bucky, you
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Speaker 1: get a chance to go uh this year? Do you
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Speaker 1: expect to see come Unday? So I expect to see
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Speaker 1: us put a spotlight on a spc Use you talk
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Speaker 1: about the legacy of the HBCU pipeline to the National
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Speaker 1: Football League, when now we get a chance to see
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Speaker 1: some of these guys put it on display for the
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Speaker 1: second year in a row, we'll have an opportunity to
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Speaker 1: in front of the scouts, and so if you think
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Speaker 1: about trying to make sure that scouts get around these players,
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Speaker 1: for years, now, you have an opportunity to see some
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Speaker 1: Can't wait to see these guys get more opportunities and
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Speaker 1: get a champ. We're back on NFL now. It's time
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Speaker 1: for breaking news that's coming into the NFL l as
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Speaker 1: we'm new right now, my girl, follow reporting a few
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Speaker 1: minutes ago that the Jets have brought in Derek Carr
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Speaker 1: for a free agent interview. What can you tell us
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Speaker 1: about the conversation, maybe how it's going mind uh Patrick.
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Speaker 1: Derek Carr set to visit the Jets this weekend, both
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Speaker 1: teams covering all their bases here as they go through
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Speaker 1: the process. Derek Carr Uh, now a free agent, has
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Speaker 1: a chance to speak to as he put it uh
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Speaker 1: last week. All his friends right now that he's free,
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Speaker 1: can speak to all thirty one teams. That's what he
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Speaker 1: wanted from the Raiders. He wasn't granted it. So now
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Speaker 1: he has got that process going on, and it begins
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Speaker 1: with a visit to the Jets. Now, it really began
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Speaker 1: before he was released, with a visit to the Saints,
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Speaker 1: who are still in play here, but Car having the
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Speaker 1: luxury of being able to take his time because all
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Speaker 1: the other free agents can't sign until the start of
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Speaker 1: the league year next month. So Car meeting with the Jets,
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Speaker 1: who now have on their offensive staff his former offensive
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Speaker 1: coordinator with the Raiders, Todd Downing. So there's the connection
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Speaker 1: right there, and Downing obviously thinks highly of Car. Now
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Speaker 1: the Jets think highly of a number of free agent options.
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Speaker 1: I know we've talked plenty about Aaron Rodgers, but we're
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Speaker 1: waiting to see what Rogers decides first, whether he wants
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Speaker 1: to go back to the Packers or whether he wants
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Speaker 1: to push for a trade out of Green Bay. The
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Speaker 1: Jets would certainly be in the mix there, so let's
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Speaker 1: see how this one goes. Car had a good visit
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Speaker 1: new with New Orleans again, they remained in play. Let's
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Speaker 1: see how this visit with the Jets goes this weekend, Patrick,
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Speaker 1: their chance maybe that they could lock something up before
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Speaker 1: Aaron emergence from the darkness, Like how many friends? Is
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Speaker 1: Derek going to get a chance to visit before this
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Speaker 1: thing is over? Quite possible. There could be others in
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Speaker 1: the mix, but I I still think that the Saints
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Speaker 1: are really a strong player for him. Now Carolina we've
16:42
Speaker 1: talked about. Perhaps the Panthers gonna have some interest as well,
16:45
Speaker 1: but the Panthers looking to a number of options to
16:48
Speaker 1: fill their quarterback position, which could also include the draft
16:51
Speaker 1: as well. My understanding, Patrick was Derek Carr was gonna
16:55
Speaker 1: take about a week and up to two weeks from
16:58
Speaker 1: the start of being a free agent, which was earlier
17:00
Speaker 1: this week. So I don't know that we're gonna get
17:03
Speaker 1: a signing out of this visit right here. This is
17:05
Speaker 1: a process that he is in the middle of right now.
17:08
Speaker 1: So um, yeah, I believe he'll leave evaluate his options.
17:12
Speaker 1: I don't know of any other visit schedule. That doesn't
17:14
Speaker 1: mean that there aren't right now, but we shall see.
17:16
Speaker 1: I'm not expecting anything imminent as far as a signing.
17:19
Speaker 1: I like this. It's a it's like a pre draft,
17:22
Speaker 1: pre free agency, free agency, and it's something that we
17:24
Speaker 1: can all enjoy. In The news came courtesy this morning
17:27
Speaker 1: of Mike Garlfolo. Thanks Mike. The Bengals have playoff victories
17:33
Speaker 1: and back to back seasons for the first time in
17:36
Speaker 1: franchise history. Windows my whole career, our Windows always never
17:42
Speaker 1: feel like an underdog that everyone talking about a neutral
17:52
Speaker 1: AFC Championship game, not even thinking about you guys, send
17:56
Speaker 1: those refunds, jump top finish. We got another big one
18:03
Speaker 1: next week on the road side. For what an early
18:08
Speaker 1: run it has been for Joe Burrow and the Bengals,
18:11
Speaker 1: and now that fifth year option is looming, that deadline
18:15
Speaker 1: coming up on May one. Of course, not a lot
18:17
Speaker 1: of questions. Joe Burrow will remain Cincinnati Bengal. The question
18:22
Speaker 1: is how do they approach the free agency and the
18:25
Speaker 1: rest of the roster construction. Samaj Pron Hayden Hurst, Jermaine Pratt,
18:29
Speaker 1: Eli Apple, Von Bell, and Jesse Bates among their notable
18:33
Speaker 1: free agents. In for more on the Bengals and how
18:36
Speaker 1: they moved ahead. Let's welcome in Jim Trotter and bring
18:39
Speaker 1: back Judi Batista, Judy, you go first, how does this
18:42
Speaker 1: team who came so close two years in a row
18:45
Speaker 1: going to well games? A shift for the Bengals. Now
18:49
Speaker 1: it's no longer about building, it's about sustaining. You know,
18:53
Speaker 1: in the previous years they had to build up the defense,
18:55
Speaker 1: and then last year they had to build up rebuild
18:57
Speaker 1: the offensive line, and they did that. But now they're
19:00
Speaker 1: trying to keep it together because they have gotten so
19:03
Speaker 1: so very close to winning a Super A Ball already. Obviously,
19:06
Speaker 1: priority number one, no question about it, is Joe Burrow
19:10
Speaker 1: is eligible for an extension. That is the biggest possible
19:14
Speaker 1: priority is getting him under contract. Heat is expected that
19:17
Speaker 1: he would reset the quarterback market deservedly so um and
19:21
Speaker 1: that will shape everything going forward in terms of what
19:24
Speaker 1: kind of money they have available for everybody else. But
19:27
Speaker 1: te Higgins is also eligible for an ex uh an extension.
19:31
Speaker 1: And then you saw the list of free agents. Both
19:34
Speaker 1: safeties are free agents, so they're going to have to
19:37
Speaker 1: pick and choose how they go about constructing the roster.
19:41
Speaker 1: We all know that the biggest bridge that a team
19:43
Speaker 1: has across is giving the franchise quarterback the big money deal.
19:46
Speaker 1: And then how do you keep the rest of it intact.
19:49
Speaker 1: The Bengals are at the foot of that bridge and
19:51
Speaker 1: they have to get across it. Now. Yeah, Judy, there's
19:54
Speaker 1: no question they have to address Joe Burrow on t Higgins.
19:57
Speaker 1: But I would also argue that that keep an eye
20:00
Speaker 1: on that defense from this standpoint three and therefore, starters
20:03
Speaker 1: in the secondary are free agents. And I know they
20:06
Speaker 1: used to hide draft pick on a cornerback last year
20:09
Speaker 1: in the draft. But from that standpoint, what you're missing
20:13
Speaker 1: or what you're losing if you allow some of these
20:15
Speaker 1: veterans to walk away in that secondary is leadership and experience.
20:19
Speaker 1: So when you talk about Jesse Bates, when you talk
20:21
Speaker 1: about bond Bill, when you talk about Eli Apple, those
20:24
Speaker 1: guys have played a lot of games together and there
20:26
Speaker 1: is a synergy there among them. So from my standpoint,
20:30
Speaker 1: that's something you have to look at. And then also,
20:31
Speaker 1: they have a couple of defensive backs who were big
20:33
Speaker 1: on special teams. So when you talk about Trey Flowers
20:37
Speaker 1: and you talk about Michael Thomas, they're both free agents.
20:39
Speaker 1: They played more than six the snaps on special teams.
20:42
Speaker 1: So if I'm looking at the Bengals right now, obviously
20:45
Speaker 1: there's going to be a lot of focus on that
20:47
Speaker 1: quarterback position, but also I think they have to take
20:50
Speaker 1: a look deeply at this secondary and address how they
20:52
Speaker 1: are going to handle that going forward. Yeah, it's a
20:55
Speaker 1: secondary and under Lou and Rumo's leadership that went into
20:59
Speaker 1: Buffalo in the playoffs and put that put out a
21:01
Speaker 1: dominant performance. And let's move over to those Buffalo Bills
21:04
Speaker 1: and look at some of the things that are coming
21:07
Speaker 1: up for them this offseason. Devin Singletary, Roger Saffold on
21:10
Speaker 1: the offense, but then on the defensive side of the balls,
21:12
Speaker 1: main ed Shack Lawson, Jordan Player notable for free agents.
21:17
Speaker 1: Ine and Judy listening to what Jordan Boyer had to
21:21
Speaker 1: say on our air on Super Bowl Live this week,
21:23
Speaker 1: it seemed like he wasn't sure whether or not he
21:26
Speaker 1: would be back. How do the Bills approach these questions
21:29
Speaker 1: on defense? I heard that interview too, and I thought
21:32
Speaker 1: the same thing. I thought he sounded like he was
21:34
Speaker 1: prepared to go to free agency. Obviously, the franchise tech
21:38
Speaker 1: window is about to open um and that's a possibility
21:41
Speaker 1: for Jordan Poyer. But the Bills are going to have
21:44
Speaker 1: to make some decisions here because Trumin Edmunds, who is
21:46
Speaker 1: a young, incredibly important linebacker in their scheme, he's only
21:51
Speaker 1: in his mid twenties. He's also a free agent. He's
21:54
Speaker 1: going to command a big money, So they're going to
21:57
Speaker 1: have to decide a Foyer, who is already in his thirties,
22:01
Speaker 1: is somebody that you want to keep. Ideally they would
22:03
Speaker 1: get him, try to get him under a multi or
22:05
Speaker 1: deal to spread it out and not have to use
22:06
Speaker 1: the franchise tech um or if you're going to put
22:09
Speaker 1: your money on Edmunds. They've got some interesting decisions. And
22:13
Speaker 1: then once free agency opens, um. You know, the free
22:16
Speaker 1: agent pool for wide receivers does not look like right
22:19
Speaker 1: now like it's going to be very rich, but certainly,
22:22
Speaker 1: either in free agency or in the draft, to the
22:24
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills have to get another weapon to pair with
22:26
Speaker 1: Stefan dis Yeah, Judy, I'm gonna sound like a broken
22:30
Speaker 1: record here again, and focus on the defensive side of
22:32
Speaker 1: the ball. You talk about their secondary with Jordan Poyer.
22:35
Speaker 1: Dane Jackson, who started four teen games last year cornerback,
22:39
Speaker 1: is also a free agent. Micah High, their talented safety
22:42
Speaker 1: is coming off of a knee injury, so they have
22:44
Speaker 1: issues in the secondary that they need to address and
22:48
Speaker 1: be cognitant of. The Other thing I would say to
22:50
Speaker 1: you is to keep an eye on their past rush.
22:52
Speaker 1: We know they went out last year and got von
22:53
Speaker 1: Miller to try and address that situation. He went down
22:56
Speaker 1: with that knee injury. He's on the other side of thirty.
22:59
Speaker 1: So the question becomes, where is your pressure gonna come from.
23:02
Speaker 1: Do you want to focus or believe and put all
23:05
Speaker 1: your chips that von is going to be able to
23:06
Speaker 1: get it done. They did not have a player with
23:09
Speaker 1: more than eight sacks. They only had three total players
23:12
Speaker 1: who had more than six and a half sacks. So
23:14
Speaker 1: for me, I think they also have to focus on
23:16
Speaker 1: their pass rush as well as solidifying that secondary position
23:20
Speaker 1: going forward. Yeah. Just how small the margins are and
23:23
Speaker 1: how different different things von Miller has made teams in
23:26
Speaker 1: the past two years. Uh, we saw what he could
23:28
Speaker 1: do when he was there and when he was not there. Uh.
23:30
Speaker 1: This year in Buffalo, let's switch to a team that
23:33
Speaker 1: won all the games in the NC playoffs and then
23:36
Speaker 1: beat the Eagles in Super Bowl fifty seven. The Chiefs
23:39
Speaker 1: win their second championship in four years. Big parade earlier
23:42
Speaker 1: this week. Uh, their championship window appears to be open
23:46
Speaker 1: for years to come. But what teams are gonna be
23:49
Speaker 1: realistically in the hunt? Well, if you go to NFL
23:52
Speaker 1: dot com, Slash Brooks Bucky has an article just detailing
23:55
Speaker 1: the championship windows. So, so who's got the biggest window
23:58
Speaker 1: right now? But oh, then team did you just saw
24:00
Speaker 1: on the parade the kN City Chiefs. The can City
24:02
Speaker 1: Chiefs can go because during a rebuilding year they want
24:05
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl Like no one expected the Kansas. The
24:07
Speaker 1: Chiefs to be able to lose Tyreek Hill, bringing a
24:10
Speaker 1: bunch of newbies on defense and then hoisted trophy. So
24:13
Speaker 1: now that they've done it, they know how to win
24:15
Speaker 1: it and those young guys got valuable experience. Look for
24:17
Speaker 1: the Chiefs to go back to bad because, let's be honest,
24:20
Speaker 1: no matter what happens in the a f C West,
24:22
Speaker 1: they owned a division they wanted seven or three years
24:24
Speaker 1: in counting. Who knows, they're already lsled and to be
24:28
Speaker 1: in the postseason, Dennis is a handful of games for
24:30
Speaker 1: them to win before they go back again. Well, I
24:33
Speaker 1: would agree with that, and for the reason that we
24:35
Speaker 1: were just talking about with the Cincinnati Bengals. The Chiefs
24:38
Speaker 1: have already crossed the bridge that you have to cross,
24:40
Speaker 1: and that is they gave Patrick Mahomes that they contract,
24:42
Speaker 1: and then they figured out a way to construct a
24:44
Speaker 1: roster that could win a Super Bowl the year after
24:47
Speaker 1: you lose your most dynamic playmaker in Tyreek killed. They
24:50
Speaker 1: were young on defense. Also, they are set up. As
24:53
Speaker 1: Steve Maruchi, who is close to Andy Reid, told me,
24:56
Speaker 1: Andy Reid is four and he has the quarterback. You'd
24:58
Speaker 1: have to have your head examined to break that up.
25:00
Speaker 1: So they are set up for a few years to come.
25:02
Speaker 1: And I would also add the Bengals. I will take
25:04
Speaker 1: a page him Joe Burrow, who said it himself, the
25:07
Speaker 1: window is his entire career. But certainly, while you have
25:10
Speaker 1: Burrow and mar Chase and Tie Higgins and all of
25:12
Speaker 1: those weapons in place, as Jim was pointing out earlier,
25:16
Speaker 1: if they can keep some of those pieces intact on
25:18
Speaker 1: the defense, they are going to challenge again and for
25:21
Speaker 1: the foreseeable future. Yeah, there's not much for me to
25:25
Speaker 1: add or much meat left on that bone. You guys
25:28
Speaker 1: took all of it there. Look, as long as Andy
25:30
Speaker 1: Reid and Patrick Mahomes are together, that window is open
25:33
Speaker 1: and they will chase championships. The other team that I
25:36
Speaker 1: would say for me would be Philadelphia From this standpoint,
25:39
Speaker 1: we see they finally have their franchise quarterback, and any
25:42
Speaker 1: team that is going to have a championship window open
25:44
Speaker 1: has to have that franchise guy in my opinion. Secondarily,
25:48
Speaker 1: they've got a lot of draft capital going forward, and
25:50
Speaker 1: particularly with two first round picks this year, they should
25:54
Speaker 1: be able to keep stockpiling talent if they continue to
25:57
Speaker 1: draft as well as they had, So from my standpoint,
26:00
Speaker 1: I think the Chiefs and the Eagles are the two
26:02
Speaker 1: teams that have the biggest window in terms of longevity
26:06
Speaker 1: of chasing these championships contenders just on the basis of
26:11
Speaker 1: the way that they have the roster, the way they
26:13
Speaker 1: have continuity on the coaching staff. But we've seen these
26:15
Speaker 1: teams come within you know, seconds and plays and the
26:19
Speaker 1: ball rotations, the ball of winning championships. Who's the team
26:22
Speaker 1: that hasn't made it to a championship game that you
26:24
Speaker 1: think could have their window come on? There? We cannot
26:27
Speaker 1: have a discussion about championship teams, but I'll bring up
26:29
Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys. This is the year coming up that
26:32
Speaker 1: the Cowboys can maybe make it to the Super Bowl. Look,
26:35
Speaker 1: so I gotta go bush on America's team because you
26:37
Speaker 1: think about the quarterback, Dak Prescott. Mike McCarthy takes over
26:41
Speaker 1: the play call, and so Mike McCarthy has won a
26:43
Speaker 1: Super Bowl as a play call he did with Aaron
26:45
Speaker 1: Rodgers years ago. So now he gets a chance to
26:47
Speaker 1: really put his full imprint on this offense. We will
26:51
Speaker 1: see if Dak Prescott can make the leap from good
26:54
Speaker 1: to great, because if he makes that leap with everyone
26:56
Speaker 1: else around him, all the Dallas Cowboys are right into
26:58
Speaker 1: mixing the conversation of the Super Bowl team. All right?
27:01
Speaker 1: Can I go even further outside the box here about
27:05
Speaker 1: the Jacksonville Jaguars and making a run of things. First
27:07
Speaker 1: of all, they are in an eminently winnable division that's
27:10
Speaker 1: number one, and we saw Trevor Lawrence really take off
27:13
Speaker 1: towards the end of the regular season and then into
27:16
Speaker 1: the postseason. They're young, they're hungry, and they will be
27:20
Speaker 1: in the second year with Doug Peterson, we saw the
27:22
Speaker 1: transformation he made just in that one season that he's
27:26
Speaker 1: been there. I like the trajectory that the Jacksonville Jaguars
27:30
Speaker 1: are on here. Look again, you guys have taken all
27:34
Speaker 1: the meat off the bone. I'm with you, Judy. If
27:35
Speaker 1: I'm picking a dark course, I think it is Jacksonville.
27:38
Speaker 1: They have been stockpiling talent over the years, which is
27:41
Speaker 1: one of the benefits of being so bad for so long.
27:44
Speaker 1: And now you have a head coach who understands how
27:46
Speaker 1: to utilize that talent and bring out the most in
27:48
Speaker 1: that talent. And we saw him do that with Trevor
27:51
Speaker 1: Lawrence this year. So for me, if I'm picking a
27:52
Speaker 1: long shot club to begin to open that window and
27:56
Speaker 1: potentially make a championship run, it would be Jacksonville. And guys,
27:59
Speaker 1: there's been a lot of talk about not believing a
28:02
Speaker 1: certain team could win the Super Bowl this week, especially
28:04
Speaker 1: for Kansas City. So I'll over all of our bases.
28:06
Speaker 1: I think we should play all the games. Everybody's championship
28:08
Speaker 1: window is open. We're just talking about the best teams
28:11
Speaker 1: from our Dallas. I can't, I can't. I can't believe
28:17
Speaker 1: with Bucky woman Dallas, I mean more cowboy talk. We
28:21
Speaker 1: ever get enough cowboy talking A good team the past
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Speaker 1: up the two thousand and three NFL Draft, let's get
29:14
Speaker 1: a conversation with lee draft analyst at PF Mike Renner
29:19
Speaker 1: about the class. And let's start with the Houston Texans. Uh, Mike,
29:23
Speaker 1: they've got two picks in the top fifteen. You guys
29:26
Speaker 1: have them taking uh A number two, Will Levis and
29:29
Speaker 1: then at number twelve, Quentin Johnson, the TCU wide receiver.
29:34
Speaker 1: What can you tell us about how these selections were made?
29:37
Speaker 1: On the p f mock drafts of me. Lad. Yeah,
29:39
Speaker 1: So if the Texas city at number two, if they
29:41
Speaker 1: do make a move up to number one, or if
29:42
Speaker 1: the Bears obviously go with the defensive lineman, I think
29:45
Speaker 1: that Bryce Young will be the guy they're targeting. But
29:48
Speaker 1: I anticipate Price Young being the N'm winning overall pick,
29:50
Speaker 1: leaving the Texas number two for the second quarterback available
29:53
Speaker 1: in this draft. And to me, the Will Levice connection
29:55
Speaker 1: makes too much sense. Bobby Slowick the new offensive coordinator
29:58
Speaker 1: for the Houston Texans coming over from San Francisco, obviously
30:00
Speaker 1: a lot of that staff coming over from San Francisco,
30:03
Speaker 1: and you have Will Levice coming from na He where
30:05
Speaker 1: he played under two different offensive coordinators from the Shanahan tree.
30:08
Speaker 1: So that connection, just me makes too much sense to me.
30:12
Speaker 1: And then obviously, once you got the quarterback, you need
30:14
Speaker 1: to get him that alpha number one type of wide receiver.
30:17
Speaker 1: And there is no better one in this draft class
30:19
Speaker 1: than Quentin Johnston six ft four pounds at TCU. He
30:24
Speaker 1: broke tackles on a hundred fift career catches. Now he
30:28
Speaker 1: has some issues to him. The full route tree. He's
30:30
Speaker 1: never gonna be able to run but he's the guy
30:32
Speaker 1: that reminds me a lot of DK Metcalf because at
30:35
Speaker 1: that size, he just presents so many matchup problems physically
30:38
Speaker 1: that he's that outside guy that can get down the
30:40
Speaker 1: football field to make place to where that's the guy
30:43
Speaker 1: I want to be targeting for a brand new quarterback,
30:46
Speaker 1: a rookie quarterback to development. Yeah, we talked about talent
30:49
Speaker 1: on the offensive side. Let's look over on the defensive side.
30:51
Speaker 1: The Texas were able to get a corner and the
30:53
Speaker 1: top ten last year. Devin livers Spoon is getting some
30:56
Speaker 1: buzz at the cornerback position. What's what's the standout thing
31:00
Speaker 1: about Witherspoon to you? I think it's his play style.
31:03
Speaker 1: He plays the game the way that Jalen Ramsey's the
31:06
Speaker 1: Gyro Alexander's of the world, played the cornerback position, and
31:09
Speaker 1: that he's not backing down from anybody. He's getting right
31:13
Speaker 1: up in your grill. He's gonna challenge you every single play,
31:15
Speaker 1: and if you beat him, he's coming back the next play.
31:17
Speaker 1: Alph Blood this past season, yet on a hundred and
31:20
Speaker 1: thirteen press coverage snaps he allowed one yard. That is
31:23
Speaker 1: the kind of what separates the men from the Boys
31:25
Speaker 1: at the cornerback position is the ability to get up
31:28
Speaker 1: at the line right one on one with a wide
31:30
Speaker 1: receiver and win consistently. Witherspood did that better than anyone
31:34
Speaker 1: in this draft class. So yeah, he's the guy I'm
31:36
Speaker 1: going to bath for a CD one in this track class.
31:38
Speaker 1: It's a contention with the sauce stat from last year.
31:41
Speaker 1: One reception yard and press coverage is the bananas stat
31:44
Speaker 1: and I can't wait to say that over and over again.
31:46
Speaker 1: Bucky was up here earlier. You mentioned Jalen Carter. If
31:50
Speaker 1: Jalen Carter lands on a particular team, you get to
31:52
Speaker 1: pick the team for him. Where's the best fit for you?
31:55
Speaker 1: I think it's the Chicago Bears now one and number
31:57
Speaker 1: one overall. I don't think it's too rich for him.
32:00
Speaker 1: He's that good of a defensive tackle prospect. May very
32:03
Speaker 1: well be the best defensive tackle prospect we've scouted our
32:06
Speaker 1: nine years of doing this at PFF, right up there
32:08
Speaker 1: with Quinn and Williams. It's a little more powerful than
32:10
Speaker 1: Quinn and Williams, and he's been doing it his entire career.
32:13
Speaker 1: You go back to last year, that Georgia defensive line
32:17
Speaker 1: that had Trayvon Walker that I want to overall pick
32:19
Speaker 1: Jordan Davis, DeVante Wyatt, three first rounders. At defensive line,
32:23
Speaker 1: Jalen Carter had the highest pass rushing grade of all
32:25
Speaker 1: of them. He was the best defense tackle that year,
32:27
Speaker 1: the best defense tackle in the country far and away
32:30
Speaker 1: this year, highest graded in the Power five to where, Yeah,
32:32
Speaker 1: I don't want to overthink it. Going to Chicago with
32:34
Speaker 1: Mattie ber Fliss, they need the three technique. They use
32:37
Speaker 1: that in their defense, used that as a havoc creating position.
32:40
Speaker 1: He'd be perfect for. And And in terms of not
32:43
Speaker 1: perfect prospects, Anthony Richardson has had some up and down
32:45
Speaker 1: times at Gainesville, but clearly physically he's a step above
32:49
Speaker 1: of so many other quarterback prospects. How do you view him?
32:55
Speaker 1: I'm a huge fan. I think he's worth whatever risk
32:57
Speaker 1: you want to take. You want to draft this guy
32:58
Speaker 1: in the top ten, I'm on board with it because
33:00
Speaker 1: of exactly what you just said right there, Patrick, He's
33:03
Speaker 1: a step above physically in terms of what he is
33:06
Speaker 1: capable of. Anyone this tract question, any play you can
33:09
Speaker 1: think of as a runner, as a pastor, this guy
33:11
Speaker 1: can execute because he has the high end physical tools
33:15
Speaker 1: that compared to what the guy's getting the highest in
33:17
Speaker 1: the NFL, the homes of the world, the Josh Allens
33:20
Speaker 1: of the world. He possesses that ability and I think
33:23
Speaker 1: the sort of productions concerns are overblown. The first three
33:26
Speaker 1: weeks of the season really bad p F grade. The
33:30
Speaker 1: rest of the season eighty six point seven saw massive
33:32
Speaker 1: improvement improvement. I'm willing to bet high. Yeah, and we'll see.
33:35
Speaker 1: We've got some time for Richardson to impress the scouts
33:37
Speaker 1: and getting those interview rooms and change some things. You
33:39
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33:42
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33:48
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33:50
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