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New Hampshire: Denny Spins Ty & "Here Come The Yellow Cars" | Charlie Marlow Show · Kenny Wallace Media

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  All right, we are live. What's up, everybody?
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  Charlie Marlow here on a Tuesday talking about Loudon, talking
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  about New Hampshire. Let's break it all down.
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  First of all, just want to say I really, really enjoyed this race
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  and we'll start like this. I may be in the minority, but I
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  liked Loudon better than Bristol.
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  And I think it's funny too how in the NASCAR world, we we rate
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  every race. I know Jeff Glock kind of
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  started that and give him credit with his was it a good race
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  poll. But I want to bring this up
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  first because it it kind of spins into something else with
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  some NASCAR news. I don't know if you saw that
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  NASCAR is hiring this ad agency, another creative agency.
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  Remember, month or so ago it was announced that they're hiring
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  this agency, what is it called, 72 and Sunny out of LA to help
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  them get back to their roots, maybe get some of the old school
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  fans back. Well, now, this is from Adam
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  Stern. Adam Stern does a great job
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  covering Motorsports. And this is a tweet.
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  I didn't actually read the article, not going to lie.
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  But in his tweet, he says NASCAR has hired a marketing agency
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  called Night Advisory Quote to understand this new world of the
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  Internet and how NASCAR could start reaching a younger
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  audience. This agency was responsible for
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  bringing the Rizzler. Do you know who the Rizzler is?
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  The Rizzler to the Daytona 500? I think the Rizzler's like 9
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  years old. And what him and his family
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  don't. They do the Costco stuff.
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  You guys would know better than me.
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  Let me know in the comments. But I think he's a funny social
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  media kid. And they do little skits and
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  whatnot. I just think it's funny.
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  First of all, how many ad agencies is NASCAR going to
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  hire? But but hey, they're trying,
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  right? They're trying to get back some
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  old folks. They're trying to grow the sport
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  with some new folks, with some younger folks.
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  So the reason I I started with the fact that I like Loudon
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  better than Bristol, and maybe I'm in the minority.
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  I think it all works into what NASCAR is trying to do with a
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  younger audience. My biggest issue with Bristol
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  and some people were saying I was being too negative.
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  I read that in the comments and I don't think I am, but I want
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  to give you my perspective. I didn't grow up a hardcore
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  racing fan because of what I do now.
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  I watch every single race and I have and I enjoy it over the
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  last four years. But I think it's fair to say I
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  still watch NASCAR races with the lens from the lens of that
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  casual sports fan. And that's why my biggest issue
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  with Bristol, we're going back a couple weeks was it was
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  something like 55% of the race. I'm talking about the time, if
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  it was the three hour and 45 minute race, whatever it was
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  over 2 hours was under caution. The reason I thought that was
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  such a big issue, I think it speaks right to what NASCAR is
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  trying to do with this ad agency and bringing in the Rizzler and
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  and whoever else. Put yourself in the shoes of a
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  casual sports fan. I know a lot of you people
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  watching right now on Kenny Wallace YouTube, a lot of people
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  listening on Kenny Wallace Media.
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  You are die hard race fans, you're die hard NASCAR fans and
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  we love you for that. We love it.
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  So you probably loved old school Bristol beaten and banging.
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  I totally get that perspective. I think you need to put yourself
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  in the shoes though, of a casual sports fan.
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  Think about it like this and I'm going back again.
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  I'm going back to Bristol Saturday night race.
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  I believe that night you had a great football game on Notre
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  Dame versus Texas A&M. So think about it like this.
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  Let's say you kind of like NASCAR.
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  You know, it's the NASCAR playoffs.
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  You're watching a football game, you're flipping through the
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  channels and let's say you flip through 10 times the NASCAR and
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  five or six of those times they're running under yellow.
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  That was my whole issue. You're not going to get the
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  young sports fan doing that. You're not going to get the
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  casual sports fan doing that. And I get it.
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  When they were actually racing under green, it was great.
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  At Bristol, there wasn't enough green.
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  And that's why I actually thought as I'm watching, I
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  thought New Hampshire Loudon was a more enjoyable viewing
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  experience for the three hours as I'm watching.
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  Look, passing was was pretty decent and and passing is never
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  going to be great with the next Gen. car.
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  And I've been very consistent on that.
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  Passing is not going to be great.
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  I saw some passing in that race. It was just an interesting watch
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  for the three hours. You had some high profile
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  wrecks, right? You had Brad Keselowski trying
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  to make it, what was it, 4 wide, 5 wide, whatever he was trying
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  to do into the apron causing a wreck.
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  But then the big story, I probably should have started
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  with this, Ty Gibbs versus Denny Hamlin or Denny Hamlin versus Ty
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  Gibbs. That was super interesting.
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  When you saw that happen early on in the race, didn't you want
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  to? First of all, you wanted to
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  wait. You're glad that Ty Gibbs was OK
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  in Field Care Center. You wanted to hear his
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  interview. He didn't say anything and
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  credit to Kim Kuhn for asking the questions, but Ty Gibbs
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  didn't say anything and that's probably a good thing.
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  And by the way, I say this with love.
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  I'm not trying to be mean, but like, has Ty Gibbs ever said
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  anything interesting? I can't remember anything since
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  I've really been following NASCAR in the last four years.
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  I can't remember Ty Gibbs ever saying anything interesting.
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  And that's fine. He's just he's not a dynamic
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  personality. I do Remember, Remember when he
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  he wrecked his teammate couple years ago in Xfinity and kept
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  his teammate. Was it Brandon?
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  Was it Brandon Jones, correct me if I'm wrong, kept him out of
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  the final four and then he apologized for that and his
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  actions. I remember that being a a moment
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  where I'm like, oh, Ty Gibbs is being honest.
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  He he feels bad, he's saying something interesting.
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  Ty Gibbs just isn't somebody, whoever says anything
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  interesting. And you know what, in that spot,
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  is there anything to gain? First of all, Ty Gibbs, we know
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  he's the grandson of Joe Gibbs. We know Joe Gibbs Racing.
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  He runs the show, but it's Denny Hamlin.
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  Ty Gibbs is what, 22? I think Denny Hamlin is 44.
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  Correct me if I'm wrong. He's literally double his age.
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  Denny Hamlin is a first ballot NASCAR Hall of Famer.
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  Ty Gibbs is young and has yet to win a NASCAR Cup race.
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  And then the biggest part of this, Ty Gibbs is not racing for
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  a championship. Denny Hamlin is racing for a
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  championship. Oh, oh, by the way, they're
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  teammates. They're teammates.
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  And if you listen, I didn't listen to all of actions
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  detrimental, but I saw some of the clips on Dirty MO Media and
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  Denny's saying, look, my teammate, I'm racing for a
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  championship. Should he be the hardest one to
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  pass, the hardest one in the whole field?
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  And Denny just said straight up, this is the time of year where
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  teammates give up spots. And look, we all know Denny spun
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  Ty Gibbs. We all know that was
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  intentional. We all know is intentional.
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  Denny was frustrated. Hey, it worked out for Denny.
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  It could have been really bad because Christopher Bell just
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  missed that wreck. That could have been horrible
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  for Joe Gibbs Racing. Think about the own goal.
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  What if when Denny spun Ty Gibbs, it went real S where
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  Denny could erect himself? Ty and Christopher Bell and two
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  dudes racing for a championship were both knocked out.
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  So I don't fault Denny. It worked out in a sense where
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  he was able to still run good. Christopher Bell got out of the
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  way. But I'm totally on the side of
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  of Team Denny here. And, and look, you may not like
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  it if Ty Gibbs was racing for a championship.
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  Different story if Ty Gibbs wasn't Denny Hamlin's teammate.
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  I think you still race him hard eventually if it's a playoff
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  driver. You know, I don't think you try
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  to wreck a dude in that spot when you're not racing for a
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  championship. But really interesting.
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  That's what I'm saying. That's another reason why I
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  thought Loudon was so was so interesting.
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  Just that storyline dominated. You wanted to hear from Ty
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  Gibbs, even though you knew he wasn't going to say anything.
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  He didn't. After the race, you wanted to
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  hear from Denny Hamlin. Denny Hamlin pretty much
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  straight up. I mean, look, he's not going to
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  get himself fined. He's not going to say that he
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  spun him. We all know he spun him on
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  purpose. We all know that he said, hey, I
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  was trying to pass him. I got into him.
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  We all know the story. It's like Dale Senior back in
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  the day. I didn't, I didn't try to wreck
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  him. I just wanted to rattle his
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  cage. Well, yeah, you did want to
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  wreck him. You did wreck him.
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  That's exactly what you're doing, by the way.
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  Why can't they just say that? I feel like we're at a point
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  like, why can't you just say that?
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  I know you're going to get fined or whatever, but isn't that
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  dumb? Isn't that stupid?
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  When you know, when you 100% know somebody wrecks somebody
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  else? Danny knows, Ty knows, Joe Gibbs
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  Racing knows, NASCAR knows. Why do we have to lie about it?
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  Why do we have to lie about it? It's fine.
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  It's it's what people like about NASCAR, the wrecks sometimes
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  drivers getting into it, drivers fighting, whether it's with
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  words or with fists, embrace it, right.
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  So that was a great storyline. And another thing with Ryan
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  Blaney winning. And here I'll, I'll give you the
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  quick results. Top ten Blaney wins.
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  So the Fords are back, baby Blaney wins, Josh Berry second,
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  William Byron third, Joey Logano, another Penske car in
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  fourth. Remember Joey Logano LED 147
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  laps. Joy Logano led the most laps of
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  anybody. Ryan Blaney second with 116.
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  You can tell from that race Ryan Blaney had the best long run
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  car, best car 1. Chase Elliott finishes 5th.
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  Christopher Bell. He gets out of the way of that
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  wreck when Denny Hamlin spins Ty Gibbs.
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  C Bell finishes 6th, Kyle Larson 7th, Michael McDowell 8th, Ross
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  Chastain 9th and Chase Briscoe 10th.
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  Denny Hamlin finished 12th, but Matt Weaver who contributes here
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  on the YouTube channel, he interviewed Denny and you can
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  check that out. It's here on the channel.
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  Very interesting. He also, and I put it on the
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  same video, he interviewed Chris Gabehart, who is Joe Gibbs
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  Racing's competition director. And Chris Gabehart was,
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  remember, he was Denny Hamlin's old, old crew chief.
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  Look, I mean, he tapped dance around it, but he was also
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  pretty honest with the sense of, hey, Ty Gibbs doesn't want to
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  just lay down Denny's racing for a championship.
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  We'll work it out on Monday. I'm sure that was a interesting
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  competition meeting on Monday at Joe Gibbs Racing.
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  But Chris Gabbard also said, look, he had a great quote.
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  Matt Weaver got the quote. Here come the yellow cars.
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  And I just think this is fascinating because they always
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  say in baseball, momentum doesn't exist.
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  I don't think that's 100% true. But they say momentum is your
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  next day's starting pitcher. And just think about how quickly
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  the momentum has now shifted from Joe Gibbs Racing to Penske
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  just from a from a narrative standpoint.
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  OK, Think about the first round of the playoffs.
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  Joe Gibbs Racing sweeps the first round of the playoffs.
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  Three different drivers. That's pretty freaking
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  impressive. Round of 16, Briscoe wins.
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  Darlington, Denny Hamlin wins our race here in Saint Louis.
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  C Bell then goes ahead and wins Bristol.
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  OK, now we're in the round of 12 and, and by the way, all season
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  long in the last three years, this is now year for the Next
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  Gen. car. It's the most obvious storyline
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  there is. Everybody's saying it.
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  You don't have to be a NASCAR expert to realize that.
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  Penske has the cheat code at Phoenix.
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  Penske has the setup at Phoenix. Logano's won two championships
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  next genera, Blaney's won a championship next genero.
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  All the races have obviously finished at Phoenix.
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  We know that's not going to be the case moving forward next
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  year at Miami, but this year it is going to be at Phoenix.
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  So if you're thinking, OK, maybe Joe Gibbs Racing has all the
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  momentum in the world and they still have momentum, that's not
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  what I'm saying. But Chris Gabhart said, look, we
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  slept on him and nobody really slept on him.
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  But he goes, here come the yellow cars, Here come the
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  yellow cars on essentially A1 mile track.
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  New Hampshire's a little over a mile.
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  It's very much like Phoenix, very much like Phoenix, where
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  Penske's already won all three Next Gen. championships and look
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  similar track, mileage track. And which cars freaking dominate
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  the yellow cars? Ryan Blaney, Joey Logano.
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  So all of a sudden, if you're thinking, if you're thinking,
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  and I think this was fair, Chris Gebhardt said this in his
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  meeting. I saw the clip on social media.
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  He goes, hey, the champion is going to come from this room and
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  he's talking Briscoe, he's talking Hamlin, he's talking
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  Seabel. Chris Gebhardt said a couple
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  weeks ago, whenever it was the Cup champion is coming out of
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  this room, Joe Gibbs Racing. And it's still very well may.
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  However, one quick race, a race very much like Phoenix, Penske
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  freaking dominated. They've always dominated
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  Phoenix. And now if you're a betting
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  person, you got to say if Blaney or Logano Syndrich didn't run
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  that great. And obviously remember, Josh
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  Berry has the the Penske partnership, even though he's
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  wood Brothers, but Austin Syndrich not terrible.
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  Austin Syndrich was 17th. But look, if Blaney or Logano
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  get to the final four, you got to think one of them will a very
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  good chance of one of them will. They got to be their favorite.
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  They got to be the favorite until you take it from
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  especially at Phoenix. I might not say that next year
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  at Miami, but as long as the championship races at Phoenix
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  and they just dominated Loudon and there's a Penske driver in
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  the final four, you got to give you got to give Blaney or Logano
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  the the edge in terms of being the favorite.
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  So here come the yellow cars. I just thought that was a great
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  quote from Matt Weaver. Matt Weaver getting that quote
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  from Chris Gabehart. Thank you guys for watching 15
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  minutes in. We got 50 of you watching live
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  on YouTube. I will repost this on the Kenny
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  Wallace Media podcast, which remembers different than Herman
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  Great story we have of this, this young girl who
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  unfortunately passed away from a rare form of cancer years ago
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  It's really good. We're going to put it on YouTube
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  morning, but it's very good. So thank you guys for watching
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  And tell you what that's kind of that's kind of everything that I
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  wanted to touch on. So I'll go to your I'll go to
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  your comments here. But just to reiterate what I
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  said at the beginning, because I think it does tie in, even if I
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  didn't do a great job tying it in, is I like loud and better
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  than Bristol from a racy race ability standpoint.
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  Quick, quick, interesting cautions right back to green.
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  That was the problem to me at Bristol.
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  Too many laps, too much time under caution.
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  I don't think I'm being negative.
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  And again, I'm looking at this through the lens of a casual
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  sports fan, which NASCAR, they're trying to get that
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  person. That's why they've hired yet
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  another ad agency now to try to get younger folks, people that
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  watch the rizzler, the rizzler think about the the ADDI say
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  this with love ADDADHD generation of young kids.
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  They're obsessed with their phones.
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  It's bad, but it's just true. They have no attention span.
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  You should see the analytics I can see on like a TikTok, like a
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  TikTok video versus even a YouTube reel or an Instagram
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  reel or a Twitter reel. The freaking attention span of
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  kids these days is nothing. Nothing.
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  NASCAR is trying to get to those kids.
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  I'm repeating myself, but kids ain't going to want to watch a
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  race. I'm sorry.
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  Casual sports fans are not going to want to watch a race where
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  it's folks running yellow, non interesting, non competitive
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  laps for more than 50% of the time.
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  That's why I thought Loudon was really entertaining to me.
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  And look, I'm in the minority on Bristol.
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  If you look at the Jeff Glockpole, Bristol was higher
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  than Loudon. I didn't think Bristol was
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  horrible race. I just thought Loudon was
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  better. I just thought it was racier and
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  it was more interesting. And some of that too is is the
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  Ty Gibbs versus Denny Hamlin. And it wasn't a great finish,
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  right? Best car one, which is fine.
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  Bristol had a great finish, though obviously that final
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  restart, Christopher Bell, Bristol did have a better
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  finish. All right, 18 minutes in, let's
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  go to the chat. Ken Ruggles says don't have a
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  problem with what Denny did. Earnhardt would do it and it was
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  racing. Then he barely touched him.
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  Considering how ticked he was. Ty needs a reality check.
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  Well then he knew what he was doing.
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  Let's be honest. But I'm fine with it.
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  Let's see Jeremy Gilly. NASCAR is simply just far better
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  in person than on a screen. It's going to be hard to win
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  over new fans over the Internet TV.
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  Get them in the stands and get them hooked.
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  That's the marketing they need. I agree, totally different
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  viewing experience. In person on TVI talked about
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  that the last couple weeks. I went to the Saint Louis race.
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  I was there. It's the sounds, it's the
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  energy, it's the vibe, it's the smells, it's the pyro, it's the
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  crowd, it's the music. You look at it from a totally
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  different perspective. And again, I'm not a fan of the
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  next Gen. car. Most races I go, Is this racy?
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  Is their passing, Am I interested?
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  You don't think about that as much when you're there.
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  But look, fans at the track matter.
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  But for the for the bottom line, the TV numbers matter more.
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  So I agree with you, Jeremy Gilley.
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  I think with the young kids, though, you got to get them on
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  the apps, though, you got to get them on social media first.
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  You got to have really good again, TikTok reels super
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  interesting, fast, short, like it or not, Look, I'm an old
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  school guy. I'm an old school landscape.
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  I'll sit there and watch the phone on the on the side.
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  That ain't young kids. If you want young kids, teens,
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  20s to watch, you got to do the reels, you got to do them
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  vertical, you got to do them up, up and down short.
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  You got to caption them. People are always watching.
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  Sometimes people aren't even listening.
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  They're in the doctor's office, right?
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  They have the volume down. They're reading the captions
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  while they watch. Just quick, quick, quick, quick,
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  quick, action, action, action. There's a reason baseball went
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  to the pitch clock. There's a reason that the
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  football tries to keep it interesting with more offense.
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  Like it or not, I don't love it, but we live in an ADDADHD world
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  and to get those kids, you got to keep it moving, you got to
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  keep it fast, you got to keep it interesting.
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  And I'll repeat myself for the 40th time, 2 hours of caution
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  lapse doesn't get it done straight up.
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  And I get it if you're an old school race fan, but that's not
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  how you're going to get young fans.
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  Let's see DC322JG Rs dominance in the play offs all but vanish
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  at New Hampshire. Yeah, they had they had a what?
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  A well, it was an average mid pack day, right?
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  Seabel finishes 6th, Briscoe 10th, Hamlin 12th.
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  So not terrible. I mean that's pretty good in
• 20:54
  terms of playoff cards, that's pretty Dang good.
• 20:58
  Obviously Penske had a good day and Hendrick had a good day and
• 21:03
  that's how it goes, man. I mean, JGR, they had it in the
• 21:07
  first round and now you're seeing a shift to Penske and
• 21:09
  Hendrick a little bit here in the first race.
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  We'll see what happens in the next two races of the of the
• 21:17
  playoffs, which is of course Kansas and the Rover.
• 21:23
  All right, back to the chat. DC322TY.
• 21:26
  Gibbs should have moved over for Hamlin and Bell instead of
• 21:28
  racing with Hamlin. I agree and I said that earlier.
• 21:31
  I agree. Yep, good time says we need more
• 21:35
  drivers that can speak up. We all know they can't.
• 21:37
  So instead NASCAR needs to bring an outside personalities to get
• 21:40
  fans Miss the old days. Yeah, you're talking about like
• 21:43
  Rizler and Drewski and all that. Ken Ruggles, Talladega's coming.
• 21:48
  That will mess everyone up for sure.
• 21:51
  Ken, don't forget the Charlotte Robo.
• 21:53
  Yep, DC 322 Phoenix is Ford country.
• 21:58
  Yes, it is Penske country for sure, although you know what?
• 22:02
  Sometimes that changes year to year.
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  Remember, everybody thought Saint Louis was a Penske track
• 22:08
  in the last couple years, and Denny Hamlin wins it.
• 22:13
  Jeremy Gilley Bristle took so long under yellow because they
• 22:17
  had to run the vacuum cleaners all around the corners to clean
• 22:19
  up the tires in an effort to prevent more rubber fires.
• 22:22
  Yeah, no, I get it. I get it, man.
• 22:24
  Like, I'm not a hater on NASCAR. It's just not interesting.
• 22:27
  And again, I don't try to, I think I'm pretty fair.
• 22:32
  A couple people said I was being too negative.
• 22:34
  And I get that. Maybe I'm slightly negative, but
• 22:37
  I'm I'm also, I was sitting there watching the race and I
• 22:40
  was flipping over. I think I said this.
• 22:41
  I was, I was, I was working on a dumpster couple weeks ago.
• 22:45
  I'm moving stuff out of a dumpster.
• 22:47
  If every time I go to the TV, 6 out of 10 * 5 out of 10 times
• 22:51
  they're under yellow. That ain't interesting folks.
• 22:54
  I'm sorry. When they were racing, it was
• 22:56
  great, but that's what and the the TV ratings weren't good for
• 23:00
  Bristol. Remember, we'll see the TV
• 23:02
  ratings on New Hampshire. But that's another part of it.
• 23:05
  People aren't going to stay and watch yellows.
• 23:07
  They'll watch for a little bit. That's why Loudon was great.
• 23:10
  Interesting. Rex.
• 23:11
  Boom, quick yellows. Back to green, back to racing.
• 23:15
  Let's see. Why won't Kenny talk about Denny
• 23:18
  and Ty? Is he scared?
• 23:21
  Well, you know what? So I'm no longer producing
• 23:24
  Herman Trader. You guys will know that this is
• 23:26
  the first week where I'm not producing Herman Trader.
• 23:28
  So I actually didn't listen to the show.
• 23:32
  I promise you. Kenny Wallace and Ken Trader
• 23:35
  covered the whole Tie and Denny deal for sure.
• 23:39
  Although that's a good point for numbers for money.
• 23:42
  We should have had Kenny Wallace address tie and Denny in a
• 23:46
  coffee with Kenny. We'll get on him for that.
• 23:50
  NASCAR 25 will help. Is that the video game?
• 23:54
  I'm not a video game person, so I'm not sure, but I think that's
• 23:57
  what it is. All right, well, hey, those are
• 24:00
  my thoughts. Let's I already showed you the
• 24:04
  results. Let's just look at the playoff
• 24:05
  standings real quick and I'll wrap up.
• 24:08
  So obviously Ryan Blaney wins the race.
• 24:10
  He's in the first spot right now.
• 24:12
  William Byron is in second. Kyle Larson is in 3rd C Bell is
• 24:17
  in fourth. So if it ended today, the top 4
• 24:21
  would be Blaney, Byron, Larson, Bell.
• 24:23
  Of course it's not ending. We have a bunch more races.
• 24:26
  How many more races we got before Phoenix?
• 24:28
  We have 5 left, right, 5 left before Phoenix.
• 24:33
  Denny Hamlin in the five spot, Joey Logano 6, Chase Elliott
• 24:37
  7th, Chase Briscoe 8th. And then here's the cut line.
• 24:42
  9th place, Ross Chastain 10th Austin Sindrick, Tyler Reddick
• 24:46
  11th Bubba Wallace 12th Not a good day at all for 2311 racing
• 24:51
  with Tyler Reddick and Bubba Wallace both finishing in the
• 24:53
  20s and Ross Chastain in the ninth spot right now.
• 24:57
  So he's 12 points back and I know I'm I keep going back to
• 25:01
  Bristol. That was another thing.
• 25:02
  There wasn't a lot of cut line drama at all for the cut off
• 25:05
  race at at Bristol. Hopefully in a couple weeks at
• 25:10
  the Oval we'll have some some cut line drama.
• 25:13
  And that's also the Rovel's weird.
• 25:16
  We all know that. So could you have first of all,
• 25:19
  non playoff driver win an SVG? Sure.
• 25:24
  Could somebody who's kind of far back, Tyler Reddick is a good
• 25:27
  Rd. course racer. I know it's not a true Rd.
• 25:29
  course, but could Tyler Reddick be a guy who's back in the
• 25:33
  standings, 2030 points back, whatever it is, and all of a
• 25:36
  sudden win the Rovel and make it really interesting?
• 25:38
  That's why I like the playoffs big picture.
• 25:41
  I'm not with Mark Martin, although I love Mark Martin, but
• 25:43
  I don't want a full 36 race championship.
• 25:47
  I would like them to tweak the playoffs.
• 25:49
  I think it should be 3 or 4 races.
• 25:51
  I think it should be harder for the worst drivers to pass the
• 25:54
  guys who've been really good earlier in the season.
• 25:57
  I like some form of the playoffs for sure.
• 25:59
  Make it a three or four race championship.
• 26:03
  But I just think again, it gets back to the short attention span
• 26:06
  theater of people these days. People want playoffs, they want
• 26:09
  some sort of playoff. I get it if you want the old
• 26:12
  school Winston Cup standings. I just don't think that that
• 26:16
  works in 2025. I just think the NASCAR playoffs
• 26:19
  do bring a lot of eyeballs, interest and drama.
• 26:22
  But they they need to make it more fair.
• 26:25
  They need to make it more legitimate.
• 26:27
  Let's see. Good time says bring back
• 26:30
  practice and make it more on track time for the fans.
• 26:33
  There you go. Especially if you're travelling
• 26:35
  to as a race fan. That's a great point.
• 26:37
  More time in the track, seeing more laps, qualifying practice,
• 26:42
  get some autographs. I love it.
• 26:44
  There you go. Thank you.
• 26:45
  Good time, and hopefully everybody had a good time
• 26:47
  watching this stream. All right, I'm going to shut her
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  down for about 27 minutes. Appreciate you all.
• 26:52
  Thank you so much. Charlie Marlowe signing off.
• 26:56
  Thanks again for watching and jumping in the chat and stream.