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The Big Weekend Pod · The Hugh Hewitt Show: Highly Concentrated

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  Speaker 1: to the Big Weekend Pod. What a week it was.
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  Speaker 1: We've got to talk primarily about the memorandum of understanding
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  Speaker 1: which may have fallen apart overnight given the fact that
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  Speaker 1: has Bela attacked IDF troops in southern Lebanon on Thursday night.
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  Speaker 1: Is irresponded with eighty strikes in the Baca Valley and
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  Speaker 1: throughout Lebanon, not in Beroot however, so whatever you hear
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  Speaker 1: on the podcast may have been overtaken by events because
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  Speaker 1: clearly HISBLA does what Iran wants it to do. Iran
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  Speaker 1: wanted to test the limits of the American response to Israel,
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  Speaker 1: and they found out we will stand by our ally
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  Speaker 1: when they are attacked. Good for us. But on the
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  Speaker 1: Big Weekend Pod, I'll talk with Eli Lake and Matt
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  Speaker 1: continenty about the MLU, Ben Dominich about the m o U,
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  Speaker 1: and John Ellis about a couple of other stories that
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  Speaker 1: came along at the end of the week so that
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  Speaker 1: we can cover comprehensively all the weekend news that you need.
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  Speaker 1: So don't go anywhere, just sit back and enjoy or
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  Speaker 1: work out listening to this the Big weekend Pod. Welcome
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  Speaker 1: Back America. United States Men team ahead of the soccer
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  Speaker 1: use from Australia by one to oh after an own
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  Speaker 1: goal by Australia. We like that. We also like Eli Lake,
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  Speaker 1: who is the host of the Breaking History podcast, a
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  Speaker 1: contributor to the Free Press and The Man. I wanted
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  Speaker 1: to ask this question to Jed E. Vanced yesterday. You're
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  Speaker 1: a country of nine million. You can't just kill your
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  Speaker 1: way out of solving every single national security problem that
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  Speaker 1: you have. Was that an own? Eli?
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  Speaker 2: I think it is because I still believe that most
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  Speaker 2: of the Republican Party, with a loud and vocal exception,
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  Speaker 2: are very much pro Israel and understand the US Israel
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  Speaker 2: alliance is something that's very good for America. And statements
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  Speaker 2: like that and the tenor of his remarks and focusing
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  Speaker 2: on what you know, a kind of a wacko or
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  Speaker 2: far right minister says, as opposed.
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  Speaker 1: To Marjorie Taylor Greed, it is real, yes.
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  Speaker 2: Right, you know, so the idea is I mean, I
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  Speaker 2: have to say it reminded me of the position that
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  Speaker 2: volodimoor Zelensky was put in when he had the White
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  Speaker 2: House visit in the early twenty twenty five, when Vance
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  Speaker 2: was the one who was saying, you know, why don't
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  Speaker 2: you say thank you? And you should be, you know,
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  Speaker 2: showing your gratitude and thanking us and all this other stuff.
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  Speaker 2: Of course, it's true the United States has helped Ukraine,
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  Speaker 2: but you know, let's you know, we also have an
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  Speaker 2: interest in that, and that interest is making sure that
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  Speaker 2: Russia doesn't swallow Ukraine. And we have an interest in
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  Speaker 2: making sure that Iran is not a nuclear power, which
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  Speaker 2: I think the war in many ways set back Iran
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  Speaker 2: very much in that respect. Trump deserves credit, Israel deserves credit.
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  Speaker 3: Jd.
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  Speaker 2: Vance supported was part of the administration for that war too,
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  Speaker 2: So he should explain that to Tucker Carlson and others
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  Speaker 2: who you know are now so delighted with this version
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  Speaker 2: of JD.
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  Speaker 1: Vance. But the deeper point here is that.
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  Speaker 2: Israel's really in a bind because I saw your remarks
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  Speaker 2: that it's a punt, so let's not it's the three
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  Speaker 2: hundred billion dollars may never be delivered. I don't think
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  Speaker 2: it will be. So some of these things are very aspirational.
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  Speaker 2: And this is a ceasefire to get negotiations going. But
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  Speaker 2: linking Lebanon to the Iran war, and you knew, everybody
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  Speaker 2: knew it, that Iran would tell has a lot to
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  Speaker 2: attack as soon as this thing was signed. That puts
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  Speaker 2: Israel in the position of kind of being in the
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  Speaker 2: fall guy. And we all know better. And here's Jadie
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  Speaker 2: Vance kind of giving, at least rhetorically, you know, kind
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  Speaker 2: of validating that position that when Israel is going to
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  Speaker 2: have to respond and must respond, then you.
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  Speaker 1: Know what is it?
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  Speaker 2: You know that it's is it Israel violating the ceasefire
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  Speaker 2: or is it Iran once again violating the ceasefire as
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  Speaker 2: they did the previous ceasefire.
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  Speaker 3: So that's troubling to me.
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  Speaker 1: Last night has been law aimed at struck an IDF tank,
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  Speaker 1: killing four including lieutenant colonel and his crew wounded five
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  Speaker 1: additional and Israel responded with eighty strikes, which is the
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  Speaker 1: right thing to do. They hit you once, you hit
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  Speaker 1: them eighty times, and so that is the middle Agi
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  Speaker 1: and that's what the IDEF has to do. And it
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  Speaker 1: was obvious, I think, obviously on the orders of Hezballah.
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  Speaker 1: Let me change my metaphor. I am now describing this
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  Speaker 1: as halftime. I'm in the war and it's good. It
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  Speaker 1: could be the longest halftime since the Phony War, after
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  Speaker 1: the Germans had conquered Poland and the Wehrmacht had was
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  Speaker 1: moving all their troops from the east to the west
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  Speaker 1: to invade France in June. That went from October to
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  Speaker 1: May of nineteen thirty, nineteen thirty nine, and nineteen forty.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's a phony war. I think it's a
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  Speaker 1: pause for nothing, and I'm not worried about it because
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  Speaker 1: they can't bridge the gaps that are there. I don't
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  Speaker 1: think they can any lie to you.
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  Speaker 2: What I'm worried about is that the president is I think,
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  Speaker 2: going to try to do everything he can to make
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  Speaker 2: sure that he doesn't get involved again. I think he
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  Speaker 2: thinks it's an electoral loser. He's worried about the midterms,
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  Speaker 2: he's worried about the world economy, he's worried about the
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  Speaker 2: price of oil. It's those are important concerns. I'm not
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  Speaker 2: denying it. But you know, to quote Slim Charles in
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  Speaker 2: the Great series of the Wire when he says to
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  Speaker 2: a Von Barksdale, the thing about war, when.
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  Speaker 3: You're in it, you're in it.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm worried that the President would like to just
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  Speaker 2: sort of kind of, you know, magically, kind of wish
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  Speaker 2: this away and say no, no, no, we're doing ceasefire now,
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  Speaker 2: and the Iranians are not going to comply. My hope
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  Speaker 2: is that eventually he will look around and he will say,
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  Speaker 2: we've been you know, I can't take this. America can't
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  Speaker 2: take this. The Iranians are not you know, good, good,
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  Speaker 2: good to their word, and that will prompt a response,
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  Speaker 2: and hopefully the kind of smart response. The one thing,
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  Speaker 2: by the way, that we don't know, we know that
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  Speaker 2: Tencom had a plan that they claim that within fourteen
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  Speaker 2: days or so they maybe could rest at least parts
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  Speaker 2: of the Strait away from Iran's control and through Freeman
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  Speaker 2: of navigation operations, and it's it's it takes a lot
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  Speaker 2: of time that you could begin to sort of carving
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  Speaker 2: a path through the Strait that would be protected and
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  Speaker 2: escorted by US Navy vessels. I would have liked to
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  Speaker 2: have really given that a try. So maybe we will
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  Speaker 2: go back to something like that. I don't think that's
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  Speaker 2: out of the question. But Trump needs to kind of
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  Speaker 2: get out of this mindset that you know, I've solved
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  Speaker 2: the war and now it's up to JD to try
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  Speaker 2: to win the peace because I'm not I don't have
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  Speaker 2: a lot of confidence in that.
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  Speaker 1: Did you do you think that the president recapt bybe
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  Speaker 1: Netanyahu because the numbers out of the pulling overnight and
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  Speaker 1: since the MLU have announced put Gaddie Eisencott and the
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  Speaker 1: Driver's seek to run the next government and Netna, who's
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  Speaker 1: down to twenty two seats in the the COUD, which
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  Speaker 1: is very low for him. What do you think it's
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  Speaker 1: like putting him on the Churchill arc when Churchill won
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  Speaker 1: the war in Europe and then got thrown out of
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  Speaker 1: office in the summer of forty five before BJ day.
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  Speaker 1: What do you think.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not an expert on Israeli politics and it's constantly changing.
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  Speaker 2: I turned to and meets Segal and others for that.
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  Speaker 2: But I will just tell you this that he absolutely
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  Speaker 2: necapped Nennyah, who sometimes you have to do that. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I you know, America has a times divergent interests from Israel,
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  Speaker 2: But I think Netanyaho and Israel in general, remember Israel
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  Speaker 2: was our allies. They were flying, you know, they they
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  Speaker 2: were the most competent air force besides ours, and they
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  Speaker 2: pulled off the first part of this war with brilliant
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  Speaker 2: precision and competence. And I just think that what's the
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  Speaker 2: thanks that Israel gets for that is not being included
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  Speaker 2: in the negotiations, being informed after the fact and being
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  Speaker 2: told that basically they're going to not respond or maybe
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  Speaker 2: only not respond in Beirut depending on kind of who
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  Speaker 2: you talk to when they are.
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  Speaker 3: Attacked by hesblah.
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  Speaker 2: And what about our plan to try to work with
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  Speaker 2: the Lebanese elected government to expel hesblah.
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  Speaker 1: That's the plan. I want to get back to last question.
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  Speaker 1: At this point, people like am Cotton are beginning to
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  Speaker 1: surface their spoken criticisms of the Lindsay Graham has been
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  Speaker 1: somewhat more diplomatic, tom Is Cotton is hitting it pretty hard.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think the Republican Party is going to warm
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  Speaker 1: up to this because at the start of the war.
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  Speaker 1: Seventy percent of Republican voters and Republican leaning voters were
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  Speaker 1: in favor of the war. So I think this is
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  Speaker 1: a big miscalculation by Team Trump big.
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  Speaker 2: I agree with you, and I just want to shout
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  Speaker 2: out the person who I think is leading the charge
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  Speaker 2: and will lead the charge, and the Senator is Ted Cruz.
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  Speaker 3: Ted Cruz has really.
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  Speaker 2: Been out front, and I think he's willing to accept
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  Speaker 2: some of the slings and eras. So I just want
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  Speaker 2: to credit Senator Cruz. Senator Canton is terrific. I have
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  Speaker 2: enormous respect for him. But I think we're going to
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  Speaker 2: see Ted Cruz kind of leading the charge and we'll
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  Speaker 2: see I think you're right. Roger Wicker has said a
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  Speaker 2: couple of things as well in the Senate, so you know,
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  Speaker 2: that's an important space to watch as well, especially as
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  Speaker 2: the Iranians do what they always do, which is to
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  Speaker 2: try to get away with as much as they can
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  Speaker 2: and violate the ceasefire and hope that Trump doesn't notice.
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  Speaker 1: What they do is kill and kill and kill again.
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  Speaker 1: Eli lay Over at Acts Follow him Out and Eli
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  Speaker 1: Lake read Over at The Free Press. Great analysis this
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  Speaker 1: week of the MLU of course, listened to Breaking History
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  Speaker 1: as podcasts and stay tuned w right back with Matt
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  Speaker 1: Continent Welcome back to America. That's the sound of the
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  Speaker 1: Turton Army marching out tonight. They played Morocco at six
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  Speaker 1: pm the United States and they had one nothing in Seattle.
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  Speaker 1: As we talk to you today, I'm joined by Matt Continetti,
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  Speaker 1: head of Domestic Policy Studies at the American Enterprise Institute.
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  Speaker 1: He is a Wall Street Journal columnist for the Free
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  Speaker 1: Expression Vertical, and they put him in the maining paper
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  Speaker 1: most of the time. He is also a regular guest
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  Speaker 1: chair and we appreciate it. Matt. Let's we talked on
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  Speaker 1: Tuesday about the memory of Understanding. Much as happened since then,
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  Speaker 1: including an attack by Husbie Law on the IDF troops
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  Speaker 1: in southern Lebanon last night. They killed four IDF soldiers
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  Speaker 1: in a tank and wounded five others. Izrael responded with
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  Speaker 1: eighty strikes in the Macaw Valley and elsewhere. Is the
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  Speaker 1: MLU over before it began?
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  Speaker 3: I don't think so, Hugh.
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  Speaker 4: It was endangered for sure, because the Iranians threatened to
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  Speaker 4: close the Strait of Hormuz after it has Bila's attack
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  Speaker 4: and the Israeli response, and it shows you how tenuous
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  Speaker 4: I think this agreement will prove to be because of
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  Speaker 4: the way in which the agreement links the Strait of
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  Speaker 4: Hormuz to Hesbela and Lebanon, and that to me was
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  Speaker 4: always the most problematic part of the agreement. We cannot
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  Speaker 4: have a terrorist group building up force on Israel's borders
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  Speaker 4: dictate whether or not the Strait of Hormuz is open.
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  Speaker 4: And I think that Iran is using Hesbela now to
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  Speaker 4: drive a wedge between the United States and Israel, and
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  Speaker 4: daylight space between the United States and Israel is not
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  Speaker 4: good good for America's interest, is not good for America's security,
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  Speaker 4: It's certainly not good for israel security and for Israeli interest.
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  Speaker 4: And so that's what I'm watching most closely and what
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  Speaker 4: I'm most worried about now.
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  Speaker 1: Vice President Vance yesterday said on another podcast to the
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  Speaker 1: Israeli people, all nine million, You're a nation of nine million.
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  Speaker 1: You can't kill your way out of every conflict. I
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  Speaker 1: think that landed with a thud. I think that might
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  Speaker 1: be a ghost that haunts the Vice president for a
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  Speaker 1: very long time. What do you think.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know. What he's talking about.
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  Speaker 4: I think that Israel is a democracy, and a democracy
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  Speaker 4: you have a wide range of voices. Just think of
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  Speaker 4: the spectrum of American politics going from Donald Trump.
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  Speaker 3: To Zoron Mamdani.
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  Speaker 4: It's the same in Israel, even though Israel's so much
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  Speaker 4: smaller than the United States. So yes, there might be
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  Speaker 4: people who think that what Dvance is saying that you
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  Speaker 4: can care way out of this problem.
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  Speaker 3: But I'm not sure that's the majority position in Israel.
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  Speaker 4: I doubt it is, and I know that it's not
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  Speaker 4: the position of Prime Minister net and Yahoo. He had
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  Speaker 4: goals at the outset of this campaign. The goals were
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  Speaker 4: the same as Donald Trump's. By the way, we've I think,
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  Speaker 4: gone quite a far away to achieving a lot of
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  Speaker 4: those goals. But President Trump has now decided that he
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  Speaker 4: wants to forego the kinetic action. He wants to forego
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  Speaker 4: the economic pressure through the blockade and try a diplomatic track,
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  Speaker 4: and that I think is the president's prerogative. He's done
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  Speaker 4: a lot to make the world a safer place. He's
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  Speaker 4: done a lot to secure Israel over the course of
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  Speaker 4: six years and two presidential terms. And now we're going
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  Speaker 4: to have to see what happens whether this kind of
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  Speaker 4: opening the Strait of Hormuz in exchange for economic relief
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  Speaker 4: provides not just the economic and political benefits the President
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  Speaker 4: is hoping for, but actually leads to a diplomatic result
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  Speaker 4: of the Iranian nuclear issue. It's that last part that
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  Speaker 4: I'm skeptical about.
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  Speaker 1: I'm skeptical of the war's over, and I was describing
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  Speaker 1: it to Eli Lake just now. I've been calling it
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  Speaker 1: a punt all week because I don't think it's going
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  Speaker 1: to work. But now I'm just calling it halftime, and
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  Speaker 1: maybe the longest halftime in the history of modern war
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  Speaker 1: since the Phony War, between the invasion of Poland and
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  Speaker 1: nineteen thirty nine and the invasion of France in nineteen
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  Speaker 1: forty just a six month pause to reconfigure and consider
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  Speaker 1: defensive and offensive battle damage assessments, moving troops around. I
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  Speaker 1: really do think we're going to have another round with
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  Speaker 1: Iran before Donald Trump leaves office, do you, Matt.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, absolutely, Hugh.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, let's just put this in the context of
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  Speaker 4: the history of the Islamic Republic, born out of revolution
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  Speaker 4: in nineteen seventy nine, a regime that has dedicated itself
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  Speaker 4: to the destruction of Israel, what it calls the Little Satan,
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  Speaker 4: and to death to America. That's what they chant in
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  Speaker 4: the square there in Tehran every week, the Great Satan,
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  Speaker 4: as they call us, ever since that regime was consolidated
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  Speaker 4: in the aftermath of that revolution. So you're going on
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  Speaker 4: almost fifty years now. That's what they're about. It's a
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  Speaker 4: terrorist regime. It's the world's greatest sponsor of terrorism. They
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  Speaker 4: have lied about their nuclear program for decades. One president
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  Speaker 4: has actually delivered blows.
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  Speaker 3: To that nuclear program. That's Donald Trump.
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  Speaker 4: No one president has actually taken out the architect of
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  Speaker 4: their terror strategy cost some solomany. That was Donald Trump
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  Speaker 4: in twenty twenty. And so I think it's inevitable that
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  Speaker 4: as Iran seeks to increase the costs of compliance to
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  Speaker 4: the United States, we will reach a breaking point and
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  Speaker 4: Trump will strike again.
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  Speaker 1: I agree, And I'm going to talk with Matt during
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  Speaker 1: the break about twenty twenty section twenty twenty eight elections
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  Speaker 1: in the United States and maybe the Israeli elections as well.
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  Speaker 1: And on the other side, we're going to take a
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  Speaker 1: look at the JCPOA and riots shut and explain and
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  Speaker 1: remind you why it was terrible, as well as the
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  Speaker 1: Obama list of ceremonies this week. Don't go anywhere. I'm
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  Speaker 1: back during the break with Matt Contoney. Matt, I just
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  Speaker 1: want to know did you have a reaction to learning
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  Speaker 1: that James Tellervico, thirty seven years old, has one checking accountant.
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  Speaker 1: He shares it with his mom.
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  Speaker 3: It's pajama boy lives Hugh.
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  Speaker 4: This is so often the profile of Democratic politicians is
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  Speaker 4: that they continue to rely on their parents. Think about
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  Speaker 4: grand Platner in Maine, this supposed oyster farm. Free Beacon
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  Speaker 4: reported that the oyster farm has one customer his mom.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. And the Reddit reddit. The Reddit post of the
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  Speaker 1: day for grand Platner is he called police quote quote
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  Speaker 1: opportunistic cowards close quote on the reddit how much I
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  Speaker 1: mean is the Is the bridge about ready to collapse
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  Speaker 1: under grand Platner? I think it's collapsed under woke to
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  Speaker 1: the third degree, James Talla Rica. But what about grand Platner?
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  Speaker 3: Well, with Platner, it's interesting.
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  Speaker 4: There's no question he's fallen in the polls, and it's
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  Speaker 4: a very tight race now. And let's not forget that
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  Speaker 4: Susan Collins didn't lead in any poll in twenty twenty
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  Speaker 4: before she won reelection, and now she's basically cut Platner's
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  Speaker 4: lead to within the margin of error. That means I
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  Speaker 4: think Collins has an advantage. What's interesting, though, Hugh, is
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  Speaker 4: Platner has not collapsed entirely, and there are a lot
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  Speaker 4: of progressive people resistors to Trump socialist radicals. They don't
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  Speaker 4: care about any aspect of Grand Platner except for he
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  Speaker 4: is full throatedly against Trump and for you know, fundamentally
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  Speaker 4: remaking the United States of America.
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  Speaker 1: Now, Matt, last question, I walked into a main office
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  Speaker 1: last week and I found the break the Silence card
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  Speaker 1: that's given away to everyone who goes in there little
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  Speaker 1: pt and it breaks the silence of domestic abuse. I
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  Speaker 1: have a hard time seeing women actually going into the
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  Speaker 1: ballot box and voting for abuser, and he's an abuser.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think there's any doubt about that. Do you
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  Speaker 1: think that that might be a quiet revolution that people
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  Speaker 1: don't want to talk about because they want their liberal
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  Speaker 1: friends yelling at them.
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  Speaker 4: Women voters are absolutely the field of battle in the
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  Speaker 4: main Senate election in twenty twenty six. To Hugh, it's
• 18:26
  Speaker 4: interesting in twenty twenty her last reelection, Collins won women
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: even as Donald Trump, in losing Maine to Joe Biden,
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: lost them by a significant margin. And so I think
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: the matchup between Susan Collins and Graham Platner favors Collins.
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: If she's in her ability to appeal to Maine women voters,
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: that will be the difference if Collins wins, for sure, And.
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: I think one of the ways to drive that home
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: is by focusing in like a laser on the issue
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: of domestic abuse, because I believe he has conclusively proven
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: a abuser. And we'll see more in September. I think
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: that the OPPA research people will come on and in
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: September with both Taller, Rico and the other. But by
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: the way, Republicans are in tight races that they did
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: not expect in Kansas with Roger Marshall and Iowa with Lashley, Ininsland,
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: in Ohio with John Houston, in North Carolina with Michael Wattley,
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: maybe in somewhere else I'm not thinking about. And we
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: have we got Mike Collins in Georgia. It's up for grabs.
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: I'll be right back with Matt Cottenetty on the other
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: side to talk about the JCPOA and the exhibit that's
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: probably in the Obama LISC Welcome Back America yesterday in Chicago,
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: the Obama Esque, as Matt Continetty has termed, it was
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: dedicated the Obama Presidential Center, the amazing Howard Mortonon. Aren't
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: you in aw of Howard Morton? As I am, Matt Continetty.
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: He seems to know everything.
• 19:56
  Speaker 4: He's the best, He's a living memory of American demandocracy.
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: It is, Edie. He has a wonderful chart on the
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: hours of dedication required for the ceremony by a president.
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: Barack Obama is in the lead at almost three hours.
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: The Nixon Library opening, over which I had a large portion,
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: ran between ninety minutes, well, actually between eighty five and
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: ninety minutes. So I think we did ours in record time,
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: and I'm not surprised that we had long speeches forever.
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: What do you think their exhibit says about the JCPOA, Matt.
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: Well, I'm sure the Obama lisk the Obama Museum touts
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: the Iran nuclear deal as one of Barack Obama's fondest,
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: finest achievements. The thing about this Presidential Center, Hugh, is
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: what it leaves out and, as I wrote in The
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: Wall Street Journal this week, Obama's real legacy, it's the
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: Trump presidency.
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: Everything Obama did.
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: During his two years in office created the conditions for
• 21:04
  Speaker 4: Donald Trump's revolution in twenty sixteen, and then in twenty twenty,
• 21:08
  Speaker 4: when Joe Biden had what can only be described as
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: Obama three the third term, things got even worse for
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: the Democrats and Trump was.
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: Restored to office. So what you won't see in the Obama.
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: Lisk is the fact that the JCPOA was a failure.
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: You won't see how Obamacare is a failure, and you
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: won't hear that Barack Obama's reliance on what he called
• 21:35
  Speaker 4: a pad and a phone, a pen and a phone,
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: actually is what torqued up the polarization in this country
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: and made the public ready for someone who didn't follow
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: these so called rules of politics in order in Washington, DC,
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: but was really ready to bring change and restore in
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: America that Obama clearly was trying to supper during his
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: eight years in power.
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: President Obama's greatest achievement was on the day that he
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: was toorn in, proving that America truly is an equal
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: opportunity to society, an African American man can in fact
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: be elected. That was a great achievement and I don't
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: want to diminish the historical significance of that. But in
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: the JCPOA room, I want to call attention and remind
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: the public of three things in the JCPOA. The JCPOA
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: explicitly allowed Iran to enrich uranium and move closer to
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: nuclear capability. It contained sunset provisions, a variety of them. First,
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: it was signed in twenty fifteen, the first one would
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: have kicked in in twenty thirteen. They would all be
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: done by twenty thirty, at the end of which there
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: would have been no limits on the nuclear program. And additionally,
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: critics worried that Iran's nuclear program wouldn't have have no
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: mention or the JCPID no mention of the nuclear program's
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: connection of the missile program. It really was a terrible deal.
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: Matt and are forgetting that Donald Trump destroyed the nuclear program.
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: Whatever you think of the MoU, it's not the JCPOA.
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: Am I just being a partisaner? Am I being objected?
• 23:13
  Speaker 4: Look when the JCPOA, the Obama nuclear deal came into effect,
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: Iran centrifugas were spinning. The JCPOA provided sanctions, relief and
• 23:25
  Speaker 4: direct payment over a billion dollars to the Iranian government
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: while legitimizing Iran's right to enrich and presenting Iran a
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: glide path to a nuclear weapon in the sunset clauses
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: that you mentioned. What we have now in this memorandum
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: of understanding. The MoU is a deal by which President
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: Trump ends the blockade on Iranian ports and allows Iran
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: to sell the oil it was selling before in exchange
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: for Iran no longer blockadeaing traffic in and out of.
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: The Strait of Hormus.
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: All of the nuclear matters are left unresolved and are
• 24:08
  Speaker 4: put off, and I think, as we see in the
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: cancelation of this meeting that was supposed to take place today, Hugh,
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: it's unlikely that they will ever.
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: Be resolved through negotiation.
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: So now then what dealers can not.
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: Be more different?
• 24:22
  Speaker 4: And what I think is interesting here is you have
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: all these Obama supporters online saying, oh, the MoU.
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: Is even worse than the JCPOA. Well, that begs the question.
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: It seems like they're kind of admitting that the JCPOA
• 24:35
  Speaker 4: was a failure. And I'm happy to agree on that score,
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: at least.
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: About the reaction to the MOLU. I think Vice President
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: Vance's extended remarks. He revised and extended his remarks about
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: the MLU a few times. I think they opened the
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: door to a challenger in twenty twenty eight. I don't
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: know if it'll be Secretary of Rubio, but I look
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: at Mike pomp Pale, and I look at Dave McCorry,
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: and I look at Ted Kruz. Who's really carrying As
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: Eli Lake pointed out a lot of the criticisms, I
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: don't think Senator Cotton's going to run in twenty twenty eight.
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: Do you think the door opened a lot? Because seven
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: out of ten Republicans strongly supported the war in February
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: twenty eight, and I would bet more than ninety percent
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: of Republicans support the state of Israel. I just don't
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: think it's good politics to be at TI Israel and
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: the Republican Party, do you no? I know.
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: I would say that JD.
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: Vance, as the presumptive front runner for the nomination, was
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: always going to face a challenge. And I think it's
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: very likely that Senator Cruz will run, and his response
• 25:39
  Speaker 4: to the MoU I think kind of underscores that presumption.
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: I think it's potentially that Governor DeSantis will run again.
• 25:47
  Speaker 4: He's had that experience of the first run in twenty twenty.
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: It'd be interesting to see how he comes at some
• 25:52
  Speaker 4: of the foreign policy questions this time around. So it
• 25:55
  Speaker 4: will not be an uncontested nomination, and I think that
• 25:58
  Speaker 4: Israel is going to be center stage in a lot
• 26:01
  Speaker 4: of these discussions.
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: What's interesting is jd.
• 26:05
  Speaker 4: Vance is trying to keep the twenty twenty four Trump
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: coalition together because he knows that's the way, or at
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: least that's the way he thinks he can win in
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: twenty twenty eight. But he's doing it by appealing to
• 26:16
  Speaker 4: the podcaster part of that coalition rather than the majority,
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: the consensus in the Republican Party. And I understand why
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: he might want to do that, but I'm not sure
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: how successful a strategy that's going to be in the end,
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: Given though an incoming vice president is always favored in
• 26:36
  Speaker 4: those types of nomination battles.
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: You thirty seconds, what about Secretary Pompeo, What about Senator McCormick.
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: They're warriors, Senator McCormick. I'm a huge fan of I'm
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: not sure he's inclined to run in twenty twenty eight,
• 26:50
  Speaker 4: but I could see Secretary Pompeo representing what you might
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: call the Republican wing of the Republican Party. Yes, some
• 26:59
  Speaker 4: of these debates standing for American power and our alliances
• 27:03
  Speaker 4: with the Jewish State.
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: I think we're going to have a wide it's going
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: to start in November, and so it's going to be fun.
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: Matt Continetti follow him on exit. Continetti listened to yesterday's
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: commentary broadcast because Matt begins with an essay, a verbal
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: essay on the Obama ears, which is just a work
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: of art. Matt. My ad is off to you for that.
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: Thank you for joining me. Stay tuned, America. I'm Morning
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: Wren eating Grace America. I'm Hugh HEWITTT. Hope your weekend
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: is off to a great start. I'm joined by Ben Dominich,
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: opinion editor at The Daily Wire, Fox News contributor, and
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: Ben Dwayne did not send me your email until two
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: minutes ago, and I'd already outlined my interview. My interview
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: began with Ben Dominich, not with Ben. That with jd
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: Vance's comment to Israel, your country of nine million people.
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: You can't just kill your way out of solving every
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: single national security problem. And my list of questions was
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: to you did jd Vance hurt him so badly this weekend? Then,
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: I say, you wrote for the The Daily Wire, jd
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: answers big Iran gamble. I don't think it's a gamble.
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: I think it's.
• 28:09
  Speaker 5: Craps I I'm trying to be charitable, thought you. I
• 28:16
  Speaker 5: think I think I think it is a gamble. I
• 28:20
  Speaker 5: think it's a foolish gamble. I think that, uh, you know,
• 28:23
  Speaker 5: quite frankly, trusting the Iranians to change their ways, or
• 28:27
  Speaker 5: trusting that this is something more than just a punt
• 28:31
  Speaker 5: where I think that we are actually agreed, uh, that
• 28:34
  Speaker 5: the nature of this MLU is different than the way
• 28:37
  Speaker 5: that it was initially reported. We are you know, I
• 28:40
  Speaker 5: think that I think that the Vice President has made
• 28:43
  Speaker 5: it a serious mistake here. Look, the the simple fact
• 28:48
  Speaker 5: is that he has a very short political career. He
• 28:51
  Speaker 5: was in the Senate for essentially, you know, uh, the links,
• 28:57
  Speaker 5: a length of time that was less than being in
• 28:59
  Speaker 5: Congress before than becoming the vice president of the United States.
• 29:03
  Speaker 5: And obviously he was somebody who you know, was picked
• 29:07
  Speaker 5: in part.
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: Because he was new blood.
• 29:09
  Speaker 5: He was someone who was, you know, on the rise
• 29:11
  Speaker 5: and viewed as such. But what that also means is
• 29:14
  Speaker 5: that he didn't really do a lot when he was
• 29:16
  Speaker 5: a senator, and he didn't do a lot before he
• 29:18
  Speaker 5: was a senator, and he certainly didn't do a lot
• 29:20
  Speaker 5: when it came to electoral politics. The two elections he
• 29:23
  Speaker 5: has won is one as senator from Ohio and the other,
• 29:27
  Speaker 5: of course, as the vice president underneath Donald Trump at
• 29:31
  Speaker 5: the top of the ticket. I think that with that
• 29:33
  Speaker 5: as his record, to go in and then make this
• 29:36
  Speaker 5: huge bet, to basically choose to double down and say no,
• 29:40
  Speaker 5: I'm happy to be the lead voice on this. I
• 29:43
  Speaker 5: don't need a bunch of people around me. Particularly, I
• 29:46
  Speaker 5: do not need the Secretary of State, who is potentially
• 29:49
  Speaker 5: a competitor with me in the future, to be standing
• 29:52
  Speaker 5: next to me. And you know, I want to own this,
• 29:55
  Speaker 5: I want to take this on. I believe it's going
• 29:57
  Speaker 5: to be a win. That's a huge bet, and I
• 29:59
  Speaker 5: think that, you know, the Vice president is very confident
• 30:03
  Speaker 5: in his ability as a communicator, and he has every
• 30:06
  Speaker 5: reason to be confident in that way. He is somebody
• 30:09
  Speaker 5: who has already shown his acumen for it. But that's different,
• 30:13
  Speaker 5: of course than making the right choices when it comes
• 30:16
  Speaker 5: to foreign policy and national security. And I just was
• 30:19
  Speaker 5: not convinced by his performance in that press conference or
• 30:22
  Speaker 5: by the things certainly that he said around this in
• 30:26
  Speaker 5: various interviews that he was doing promoting a book that
• 30:29
  Speaker 5: nobody seemed to you know, actually talk about, to be
• 30:31
  Speaker 5: quite honest, that there was any kind of confidence that
• 30:35
  Speaker 5: emerged from that about the way that he would conduct
• 30:38
  Speaker 5: himself in the future as president.
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: Now I know that the vice president's very smart. I
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: ran the debate in Ohio, the first debate when he
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: was running for senating against seven other people or six
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: other people, and he's very good on his feet. He
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: saw what he did to Tim Wallace. He left him
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: up in little pieces, and he can be He's been
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: given the anti fraud portfolio, which is a good one.
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: He engaged with some fistic couch with verbal fistic couch
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: with Zolenski. Not a bad way to go. But the
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: Republican Party is overwhelmingly supportive of Israel, like seven out
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: of ten strong supporters of Israel end of the war.
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: This plays to the podcast pros in our side of
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: the aisle. That's not a lot of people.
• 31:19
  Speaker 5: You know. I don't think it's even just the podcast pros.
• 31:22
  Speaker 5: I think that it plays to I mean, the way
• 31:25
  Speaker 5: that I felt about this was, are you actually catering
• 31:29
  Speaker 5: to the people who voted for Donald Trump and think
• 31:32
  Speaker 5: and believe in Donald Trump and agreed with Donald Trump
• 31:34
  Speaker 5: when it came to these things. I would actually like
• 31:37
  Speaker 5: to know what the Vice President truly believes about whether
• 31:40
  Speaker 5: he still thinks it was right to launch Operation at Security,
• 31:45
  Speaker 5: you know, in his heart of heart saince he still
• 31:46
  Speaker 5: thinks that, knowing what he knows now, And I suspect
• 31:50
  Speaker 5: that the answer that he would give, of course, he
• 31:52
  Speaker 5: would say yes if you ask me this question. But
• 31:55
  Speaker 5: I just am not sure that that's actually the truth.
• 31:58
  Speaker 5: And I think that when it comes to these catering
• 32:01
  Speaker 5: you can call them the podcast bros, but I think
• 32:03
  Speaker 5: of them as being this online set that is, you know,
• 32:07
  Speaker 5: absolutely devoted but also from my perspective, quite unseerious about
• 32:13
  Speaker 5: foreign policy and national security. They only want to frame
• 32:17
  Speaker 5: things in terms of you know, endless victory and that
• 32:20
  Speaker 5: type of thing. I am always suspicious of that. I
• 32:23
  Speaker 5: don't like the kind of attitude that I'm seeing here
• 32:27
  Speaker 5: in terms of taking, you know, taking potshots at Israel
• 32:31
  Speaker 5: at a moment in which you know they they are,
• 32:34
  Speaker 5: you know, they are having to defend themselves. They have
• 32:37
  Speaker 5: every right to do so. And I also don't think
• 32:40
  Speaker 5: that we should be playing this both sides of them
• 32:42
  Speaker 5: game when it comes to historically America's attitude toward Israel
• 32:46
  Speaker 5: and other nations, or America's attitude toward that the relationship
• 32:51
  Speaker 5: that we have, the unique relationship I should say we
• 32:54
  Speaker 5: have with the Jewish people, and with this rise of
• 32:57
  Speaker 5: anti Semitism that has taken place on the left, this
• 32:59
  Speaker 5: is not a time to play foot seet with that
• 33:01
  Speaker 5: kind of thing.
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: Okay, Now, I believe that the happiest person with those
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: remarks by the Vice President's named Ram Emmanuel. Now it's
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: a long shot for Ram Emmanuel to get the nomination,
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: though he's the most formidable candidate they've got. And boy,
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: you give him back Israel. And that's what JD did,
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: didn't he? Am I right about that he gave Rama
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: Manuel back Israel as an issue?
• 33:24
  Speaker 5: Well, I certainly think if you know, there's there are
• 33:28
  Speaker 5: not many people who are more canny politically than Emmanuel.
• 33:31
  Speaker 5: I agree with you there. I have always said, and
• 33:35
  Speaker 5: I may have even said it on this program, that
• 33:37
  Speaker 5: the biggest mistake that Barack Obama made was getting was
• 33:42
  Speaker 5: choosing to not listen to Rama Manuel on numerous things
• 33:46
  Speaker 5: and ultimately push him out. You forced him into his
• 33:48
  Speaker 5: Chicago situation. But I think that the situation here is
• 33:53
  Speaker 5: one that can be absolutely exploited by the Democrats because
• 33:57
  Speaker 5: then they can basically do both sides of them games
• 34:00
  Speaker 5: when it comes to Israel and use the kind of
• 34:04
  Speaker 5: comments that were made in a way that hurts Republican candidates,
• 34:07
  Speaker 5: you know, and Republicans will have to defend it because
• 34:10
  Speaker 5: they feel obligated to do so. I mean, I don't
• 34:13
  Speaker 5: think they should, but they will feel like they are
• 34:15
  Speaker 5: obligated to do so when it comes to the politics.
• 34:17
  Speaker 5: At the moment, look, the Vice president, I think is
• 34:22
  Speaker 5: thinking about his own political future. I think he's about
• 34:24
  Speaker 5: thinking about domestic problems. I think that he is thinking about,
• 34:28
  Speaker 5: you know the fact that he hasn't had a real
• 34:30
  Speaker 5: political win quote unquote within this administration yet, that Marco
• 34:34
  Speaker 5: Rubio had kind of surpassed him as being someone who
• 34:37
  Speaker 5: both donors liked, and it seems like even perhaps the
• 34:40
  Speaker 5: president liked more than the vice president as a choice
• 34:43
  Speaker 5: for the next round. That's short term thinking. It's very online,
• 34:48
  Speaker 5: it's too much influenced by the trends of the moment.
• 34:52
  Speaker 5: Step back, have some perspectives, and I think you'll understand
• 34:55
  Speaker 5: that what the American people want in this moment is leadership.
• 34:58
  Speaker 5: They want they want strong leadership, and they want confidence
• 35:02
  Speaker 5: that we are not going down a road that is
• 35:03
  Speaker 5: going to ultimately lead to the Ayatola having billy suits
• 35:08
  Speaker 5: of dollars more to play with when it comes to
• 35:11
  Speaker 5: the list of things that we know the Ayatola always
• 35:14
  Speaker 5: has on his gift list.
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: Sorry, here's my question that Eisenhower did not endorse Nix
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: until he had wrapped it up. He had to see
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: off a couple of people. Reagan did not endorse George W. H. W.
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: Bush until Bush had seen off Dole. Do you think
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: Donald Trump will try and pick the nominee for the
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: Republican Party?
• 35:34
  Speaker 5: Oh, come on, Hugh. He loves the game, he loves
• 35:38
  Speaker 5: the competition. He wants to see competition. He wants to
• 35:41
  Speaker 5: be calling, you know, ball some strikes on the competition.
• 35:45
  Speaker 5: He wants to be you know, I think, you know,
• 35:47
  Speaker 5: criticizing people when they, you know, have a bad debate,
• 35:51
  Speaker 5: and you know, encouraging people when they do things that
• 35:54
  Speaker 5: he likes. I don't think that he's going to endorse,
• 35:57
  Speaker 5: you know, right off the bat at all. I have
• 35:59
  Speaker 5: completely disagreed with the conventional wisdom on that in DC
• 36:03
  Speaker 5: for a long time.
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: So why I suggest that in a calm this way
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: he will moderate a debate because he likes to do that.
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: Do you think he will?
• 36:13
  Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, the ratings on that, you yeah, I know,
• 36:19
  Speaker 5: I think he will. Who do you think will be
• 36:22
  Speaker 5: on that? The most? Will be NBC?
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: Everybody, everybody. I think he's going to lay out. I
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: think he controls the RNC. Joe's a good guy. But
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: I think if he says I want twelve debates and
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: I'll take three of them, they'll give him three of them.
• 36:36
  Speaker 5: I mean, I think, I don't think there's any question
• 36:39
  Speaker 5: in my mind that if he has the inclination to
• 36:41
  Speaker 5: do that, it would be musty TV, of course, but
• 36:44
  Speaker 5: it would also I actually think it would be revelatory
• 36:47
  Speaker 5: because I think people underestimate the fact that the president,
• 36:52
  Speaker 5: you know, he's very canny when it comes to these things,
• 36:56
  Speaker 5: and he can ask questions of people that reveal things
• 36:59
  Speaker 5: about their own you know, biases that are very interesting
• 37:04
  Speaker 5: and and you know he's been that way for a
• 37:06
  Speaker 5: long time. You know, he's he's trained on the reality
• 37:09
  Speaker 5: TV circuit. It's something he's used to and I think
• 37:12
  Speaker 5: that that would be an incredible sight to see. But look, ultimately,
• 37:17
  Speaker 5: I think that what's going to come out of this deal,
• 37:19
  Speaker 5: just to circle back, is what you and I, I
• 37:22
  Speaker 5: think both believe, which is that this is unsustainable. The
• 37:25
  Speaker 5: folks on Capitol Hill, including by the way, strong supporters
• 37:29
  Speaker 5: as the president. Yeah, you know, people people who are
• 37:32
  Speaker 5: who are allied with him, who are not just the
• 37:34
  Speaker 5: Lindsey Grahams or the Tom Cottons or the people who
• 37:37
  Speaker 5: are hardcore going into Iran that kind of thing. But
• 37:40
  Speaker 5: I mean, Josh Holly came out right away and said
• 37:43
  Speaker 5: we shouldn't be sending any money to Iran.
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Ted Cruz was even more blunt the bad, bad, bad, bad,
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: bad bad deal. Tom Cotton took a shot today that
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: at the mlu is A halftime, it's going to be
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: the longest halftime in the history of modern war except
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: for the Phony War. But after the election, it's starting again.
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: Ben to talk with me during the break about the
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: UFC fight. Don't go anywhere. When we come back. We
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: got some other stuff to talk about on the new Helio.
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: I'm back with Ben Dominic s Been. I was on
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: Special Report on Friday night and they do winners and losers,
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: and my winner of the week was Freddie la seven,
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: the German has been adopted by the South. Have you
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: been following him?
• 38:19
  Speaker 5: Of course I've been following him. You know, how can
• 38:22
  Speaker 5: you miss this guy? I mean it's crazy, the degree
• 38:26
  Speaker 5: which you know someone can can kind of take over
• 38:30
  Speaker 5: the viral conversation and simply by tint of having a
• 38:36
  Speaker 5: perspective on America that is both new and appreciation and
• 38:43
  Speaker 5: appreciating the old, appreciating the traditional within America, things that
• 38:48
  Speaker 5: American's sake for granted and Europeans are shocked by. It
• 38:51
  Speaker 5: will always be a thing and I'm very glad to
• 38:54
  Speaker 5: see it.
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: What do you make of the Tartan Army in Boston.
• 38:59
  Speaker 5: Well, the thing that the thing is out to me
• 39:02
  Speaker 5: the most about the Tartan Army in Boston was I
• 39:04
  Speaker 5: don't know if you if you saw this, but the
• 39:07
  Speaker 5: reports about their ability to drink Boston Bars under the table,
• 39:14
  Speaker 5: comparing it to you know, three or four Saint Patrick's
• 39:18
  Speaker 5: days combined. I mean, it's like the Scouts are undefeated
• 39:23
  Speaker 5: when it comes to that sort of behavior.
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: Bad Edward down to the bud light, which means it really.
• 39:29
  Speaker 5: Yes, yes, they're really transferate. Like wat, I actually love
• 39:34
  Speaker 5: this And this is why. I mean, you know, sometimes
• 39:38
  Speaker 5: people are you know, skeptical of and I will admit
• 39:41
  Speaker 5: I have the the Australia US game on muted as
• 39:45
  Speaker 5: I am talking to you today. The thing is that
• 39:49
  Speaker 5: some people are amazed, I think, by how backwards European
• 39:55
  Speaker 5: nations actually turn out to be, just given their great
• 39:57
  Speaker 5: history and and you know, all the phenomenal art and
• 40:01
  Speaker 5: architecture and all these other things, and then you you know,
• 40:03
  Speaker 5: learn things like and as the British learned recently that
• 40:06
  Speaker 5: they have a GDP that is, you know, that doesn't
• 40:10
  Speaker 5: look very good when compared to Mississippi.
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: You're a big man, Ben, Have you ever tried to
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: shower in a European shower?
• 40:16
  Speaker 5: Oh it's oh gosh, it's absolutely ridiculous.
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: No.
• 40:21
  Speaker 5: The fact that there are going to be a bunch
• 40:23
  Speaker 5: of people coming out of this and I hope that
• 40:24
  Speaker 5: they do. Appreciating air conditioning and actual water pressure. Let's
• 40:32
  Speaker 5: let's try to let's try to make the West more
• 40:34
  Speaker 5: civilized generally, and that includes that.
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: Did you like the cage match? We got a minute
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: to we got to go back?
• 40:42
  Speaker 5: I thought it was beautiful to see. In terms of storyline.
• 40:45
  Speaker 5: I understand why some people thought that it was disrespectful
• 40:49
  Speaker 5: or something like that. I don't personally think so. I
• 40:51
  Speaker 5: thought it was incredibly American, and I was so impressed
• 40:55
  Speaker 5: by the way at just the patriotism of the people involved.
• 40:59
  Speaker 5: It was so, you know, such an emphatically American event,
• 41:03
  Speaker 5: and uh, you know, and especially for the people who
• 41:06
  Speaker 5: didn't have tickets and we're just sitting outside, you know what,
• 41:09
  Speaker 5: in the heat watching this, you know, on on big
• 41:12
  Speaker 5: screens and cheering fighters on. I think it was great
• 41:15
  Speaker 5: to see. And I'm so glad that we can have
• 41:18
  Speaker 5: things like that happen. And again, as I've said to
• 41:21
  Speaker 5: you before, thank god we don't have a two fiftyist
• 41:24
  Speaker 5: that's being managed by the you know, the Biden press team.
• 41:28
  Speaker 5: Oh oh, oh, you're right.
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: We would have like the Christmas at the White House
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: with Jill Biden.
• 41:34
  Speaker 5: Sure from Nicole, Hannah Jones coming out.
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: Don't go Anywhere. I'm coming right back with Ben Dominic
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: on the Weekend Pod. Welcome back in America. I'm he
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: you with Ben Dominic, editor of the opinion pages over
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: at the Daily Wire, Fox News contributor Ben. I've got
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: in my office my big two fifty sea bags, which
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: I hold up to remind myself. It's the two undred
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: and fiftieth and I'm really looking forward to it. And
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: I think the World Cup is getting it's in the mood,
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: and THEFC fight and everything else is going on is
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: all positive. And in the mid middle of it comes
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: the Obama Lisk dedication yesterday in Chicago, and I have
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: lots of thoughts about that, particularly about the speeches by
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: the President and the First Lady. What did you make
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: of the whole spectacle which Howard Morton informed us the
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: one and only, the remarkable Howard Mortman ran far longer
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: than any other presidential library dedication. I was in charge
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: of the Nixon Library in nineteen ninety and it went
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: about between ninety and one hundred minutes. This went three
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: and a half hours. What did you make of it?
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: What did you make of their speeches. Did you even
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: pay attention?
• 42:41
  Speaker 5: So I paid attention to Obama speech because I did
• 42:46
  Speaker 5: want to both hear it and also to just get
• 42:50
  Speaker 5: his temperature and attitude. Look, they are so self obsessed,
• 42:55
  Speaker 5: and especially I think they feel so defensive about the
• 42:59
  Speaker 5: view that their legacy is the presidency of Donald Trump.
• 43:05
  Speaker 5: I think this library, as a matter of architecture is
• 43:08
  Speaker 5: an abomination, oh embarrassing.
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: Every architectural critic just just carved their knives before they
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: went to writing.
• 43:17
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it was just insane. But the but the thing
• 43:21
  Speaker 5: that really sticks out to me is how distant he
• 43:24
  Speaker 5: seems in the past and how irrelevant from this current moment.
• 43:29
  Speaker 5: You know, the the Obama era was supposed to be
• 43:32
  Speaker 5: this world changing event, you know, not just altering the
• 43:38
  Speaker 5: position of people in America and the view that they
• 43:42
  Speaker 5: had of this nation, but also kind of a reorienting
• 43:46
  Speaker 5: of the world around a new reality, a post w
• 43:50
  Speaker 5: post Clinton reality. And in retrospect, he just seems so
• 43:55
  Speaker 5: small as a presidential figure.
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 43:58
  Speaker 5: I don't know about you, Q, but you know, the
• 44:01
  Speaker 5: biggest thing obviously that he did domestically was you know,
• 44:05
  Speaker 5: this massive attempt to reform and to governmentalize healthcare people
• 44:13
  Speaker 5: today in the Democratic Party spend i would say, at
• 44:17
  Speaker 5: least half their time talking about how bad that very
• 44:20
  Speaker 5: same system is, one that was you know, enshrined in
• 44:24
  Speaker 5: law by him, created by him, created by his people,
• 44:28
  Speaker 5: defended by by their people. Over and over again, they
• 44:31
  Speaker 5: would accuse people who disagreed with his plan of you know,
• 44:35
  Speaker 5: and including I mean, I remember when Ezra Klein was
• 44:37
  Speaker 5: calling Joe Lieberman somebody who wanted people to die because
• 44:40
  Speaker 5: he wanted alterations to the way that the plan would
• 44:42
  Speaker 5: even work. And today what do we have. We have
• 44:45
  Speaker 5: hospitals that cannot survive based on the fact that Medicare
• 44:50
  Speaker 5: is not paying for procedures what they what they actually caused.
• 44:54
  Speaker 5: We have systems where doctors are completely burnt out, where
• 44:59
  Speaker 5: they're retiring young and younger. We have Medicaid systems that
• 45:02
  Speaker 5: promise care but then end up getting completely overburdened by
• 45:07
  Speaker 5: the pressure of illegal immigrants in emergency systems. We have
• 45:11
  Speaker 5: a completely broken system. And that was his signature domestic
• 45:15
  Speaker 5: policy for president who had eight years he to me
• 45:20
  Speaker 5: changed so little about the way that things worked in
• 45:24
  Speaker 5: America in terms of the government, while also attempting to
• 45:28
  Speaker 5: change it so harshly when it came to the culture.
• 45:31
  Speaker 5: And I think that those changes in the culture were
• 45:33
  Speaker 5: what led directly to the election of Donald Trump.
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: You know Freddie La, the World Cup person. He's running
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: into bitter clingers wherever he goes, and they love him,
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: and he loves the bitter clingers. The highest point of
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: the Obama presidency was the day was inaugurated. That was
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: a significant day. It was a big day in American history.
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: It was all downhill from there. Let me close with
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: the MoU and my theory to have you expound on
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: my theory is at reactions to the MoU across the spectrum.
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: I'm left or right, everybody, people on our team, people
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: on their team, people on note team that if you
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: go back and find what they were writing ten years
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: ago in the summer of twenty sixteen about Donald Trump,
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: their opinion of the MOLU will exactly match and map
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: their opinion of Donald Trump in twenty.
• 46:17
  Speaker 5: So they do, Hugh, And that's that's and that's something
• 46:19
  Speaker 5: that I think is inevitable that they that we have
• 46:21
  Speaker 5: to deal with and that we have to understand about
• 46:23
  Speaker 5: the nature of this. There is a complete lack of
• 46:27
  Speaker 5: ability for people to look back and evaluate their own opinions.
• 46:31
  Speaker 5: They're all engaged in revision of history. And I think
• 46:35
  Speaker 5: that it's something that's frustrating about our political debate, but
• 46:39
  Speaker 5: it's inevitable and I think it's only going to continue.
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: Have you heard Dean Elliott Cohen yet sit down with
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: Aaron McLain on School of War?
• 46:47
  Speaker 5: Not?
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: It's very good because Elia coone deserves a lot of respect.
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: But he begins by saying, I am humbled by how
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: wrong I was in twenty fifteen sixteen. I was one
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: of the original never trumpers, and with age comes a
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: little more perspective. Now he doesn't like the MoU much,
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: but he is also very very careful about how he
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: went overboard, and he doesn't want to be a never
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: trumper forever. Do you think some people are just caught
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: in that loop they'll never get out of it.
• 47:17
  Speaker 5: I think that's unquestionable, and I think that one of
• 47:19
  Speaker 5: the things that you know, we should look. We should
• 47:21
  Speaker 5: welcome people back who reevaluate their position. We should also, though,
• 47:27
  Speaker 5: I think, be honest about where people actually were. A
• 47:30
  Speaker 5: lot of people, myself included, who get lumped into this
• 47:33
  Speaker 5: position of being never trumpers or something.
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: Oh me too.
• 47:38
  Speaker 5: We actually when we actually just opposed him in the
• 47:41
  Speaker 5: twenty sixteen primary, which is stupid. I mean, I you know,
• 47:45
  Speaker 5: I opposed Mitt Romney when you know, as you know
• 47:48
  Speaker 5: in twenty twelve. You know, I in two thousand and eight,
• 47:52
  Speaker 5: I voted for Mike Huckabee before I voted for John McCain.
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 47:56
  Speaker 5: And so it just one of these things where you know, look,
• 47:58
  Speaker 5: we should be honest about where people were, and the
• 48:01
  Speaker 5: demands of fealty by these online folks are just designed
• 48:07
  Speaker 5: to cover up for, in many cases, their own lack
• 48:11
  Speaker 5: of awareness. Lots of people I think like to play
• 48:13
  Speaker 5: games with this and those games. I should be apparent
• 48:17
  Speaker 5: to folks, but they're counting on you to not pay attention.
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: To what it's the fallacy of sunk costs. I'm not
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: going to go through and find out what everyone said.
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: I was Trump skeptical but willing to support him. I
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: got very upset over the Hollywood Access called for him
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: to get off the ticket, but then voted for him
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: because I'm Trump objective. I call myself that. But there
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: were Trump deranged, and there were Maga people, and there's
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: a third category in the middle who just evaluate what
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: he does, and I think that they those opinions would
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: map on the MoU opinions. Well, I'm skeptical. Let's see
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: how it goes. I hate it, I love it, and
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: it doesn't really work. That's a bad way to do politics.
• 48:55
  Speaker 5: No, it's absolutely bad way to do politics. And I
• 48:57
  Speaker 5: think you're right. It maps over the ven diagram of
• 49:01
  Speaker 5: how we're looking at this thing. You know. Look, I
• 49:05
  Speaker 5: hope that you know for that at the end of
• 49:07
  Speaker 5: the day, what we can say is that we have
• 49:10
  Speaker 5: seen the decimation of the power of Iran to project
• 49:14
  Speaker 5: power and to and to have the kind of influence
• 49:18
  Speaker 5: that they had in the past, to have the kind
• 49:20
  Speaker 5: of military capability that they had in the past. But
• 49:23
  Speaker 5: I also think that, you know, the promise of what
• 49:25
  Speaker 5: this was supposed to be was much higher than that,
• 49:28
  Speaker 5: and we shouldn't pretend like that was the case, you know,
• 49:31
  Speaker 5: at the get go, and right now, a lot of
• 49:33
  Speaker 5: people I think are defending a deal it's designed to
• 49:37
  Speaker 5: essentially UH have the free war status quo, but also
• 49:42
  Speaker 5: UH involve you know, untold billions. If the if the
• 49:47
  Speaker 5: paper is held to account, UH sent to the Iranian regime,
• 49:51
  Speaker 5: which from my perspective is unacceptable.
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: I agree with you, Ben, but I also don't think
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: it's gonna happen. It's a punt. It's a long halftime,
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: the longest since Stephony War, and it war was again
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: after the election, Ben Dominich, always good to go back
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  Speaker 1: on a Friday, John Ellis, Founder, editor in chief of
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  Speaker 1: I read in the morning, and I think you are
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  Speaker 1: too as well. But at the end of the week,
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  Speaker 1: John Zen's me two or three or four stories that
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: we may not have focused on in the course of
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: the week. The first one of which is particularly interesting
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: to those of you listening in California right now, you're
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: all going to die. The University of Burne is modeled
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: one thousand years of earthquake history along the San Andreas
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: and Sanja sent to a faults in south southern California.
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: John good Good Friday too. What did they come up with?
• 52:29
  Speaker 6: Well, the result is that the stresses in the crust
• 52:33
  Speaker 6: are higher today than at any time in the last millennium,
• 52:38
  Speaker 6: and a critical fault junction near Los Angeles could decide
• 52:42
  Speaker 6: how big the next major earthquake will be. If you
• 52:47
  Speaker 6: were if we have the Hewitt and Ellis Insurance Company
• 52:51
  Speaker 6: and we're thinking about maybe we'll go into southern California
• 52:55
  Speaker 6: and you know, underwrite home policies, the answer would be, no,
• 53:01
  Speaker 6: we're not going to do that.
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: So I went through two major quakes in my thirty
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: years out there, the north Ridge and the Big Bear quakes,
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: and I don't want to do it again, and I
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: certainly don't want to be going to Las Vegas when
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: the Calm Pass goes. And so where do you put
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: this in terms of degree of likelihood? John, Because we've
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: been getting earthquake predictions for as long as I've been
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: in California since nineteen seventy eight, on and off, and
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: I'm not there except in the winter every other year,
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: so I don't really worry about it anymore. But they're
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: not fine, and if it ever gets up to the
• 53:33
  Speaker 1: big one, that'll be a nightmare.
• 53:36
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean it's you know, this is not sort
• 53:39
  Speaker 6: of oh my god, the next big one is on
• 53:42
  Speaker 6: the way. This is a serious group of international researchers
• 53:46
  Speaker 6: who have looked at the data for the last one
• 53:49
  Speaker 6: thousand years and have come to the conclusion that the
• 53:52
  Speaker 6: stresses at this point are as bad as they ever
• 53:57
  Speaker 6: have been in those one thousand years. It doesn't mean
• 54:00
  Speaker 6: the big one is coming tomorrow, but it's certainly one
• 54:03
  Speaker 6: that you would think people pay attention to. Interesting to me,
• 54:06
  Speaker 6: I put it in news items, I think on Wednesday,
• 54:10
  Speaker 6: and I saw one report on it in the nine
• 54:13
  Speaker 6: US newspapers that I survey every morning, and I was
• 54:17
  Speaker 6: in the Washington Post the next day. It seems just
• 54:20
  Speaker 6: an extraordinary story. Regardless of the geology. The impact on
• 54:25
  Speaker 6: the insurance crisis in California, I think is going to
• 54:31
  Speaker 6: be you exaggerated by this report, because, as I say,
• 54:36
  Speaker 6: the Hewitt and Ellis insurance Company is going to look
• 54:39
  Speaker 6: at this and say, no, thank you.
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we're going to redline Dwayne who just left a pack.
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: I do want to point out to people in the
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: last one thousand years, the biggest quake out on that juncture.
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: It was in eighteen fifty seven with a magnitude of
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: seven point nine. If there's a seven point nine earthquake
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  Speaker 1: at the Kahone Pass or the Tahone Pass, the two
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  Speaker 1: passes and seven California, Katie bar the door because you
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  Speaker 1: won't be able to get out, and it will be
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: up to haveer Aleksti Hilton. That's all I can tell you.
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: You don't want Hoavier Bisara in charge. All right, Let's
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  Speaker 1: go to number two. At a meeting of Chinese officials
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  Speaker 1: at the end of last year, President Jijinping outlined the
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  Speaker 1: main driver of growth for this year twenty twenty six,
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  Speaker 1: which was consumer demand. How's that working out? John Ellis?
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  Speaker 6: It hasn't gone the way he had hoped. You know,
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  Speaker 6: the consumer activity, if you will, is down substantially and
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  Speaker 6: certainly substantially from where he hoped it would be. And
• 55:39
  Speaker 6: more important, it seems to me, is that investment activity
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  Speaker 6: in companies in China, in in wealth what are called
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  Speaker 6: wealth products in China, and particularly in real estate is
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  Speaker 6: down four point one percent over these five months when
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  Speaker 6: compared to the first five months of twenty twenty five.
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  Speaker 6: That's an astonishing statistic because Chinese statistics, shall we say,
• 56:05
  Speaker 6: optimistic in general, so I think we can say that
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  Speaker 6: the actual numbers are probably worse than what was reported
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  Speaker 6: in this report. And you know, the bargain has always
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  Speaker 6: been in China that the government gets to govern and
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  Speaker 6: if it continues to deliver a growing economy. So you
• 56:25
  Speaker 6: you know, we deliver a growing economy and you don't
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  Speaker 6: challenge our leadership. One of the reasons I think the
• 56:33
  Speaker 6: g is busy purging everyone he can see, and the
• 56:37
  Speaker 6: purges continued this week with people being accused of witchcraft,
• 56:43
  Speaker 6: is that he's you know, nervous at the top of
• 56:47
  Speaker 6: this thing, because his side of the bargain will produce
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  Speaker 6: a growing economy is not being delivered.
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  Speaker 1: You know, when property values start to fall in America,
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: it is usually an eighteen month process, and you don't
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: try and catch a falling night. It's been going on
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: longer there and so no wonder people are stressed out.
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  Speaker 1: You also noted retail sales in China turned negative last
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  Speaker 1: month for the first time since twenty twenty two. So
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  Speaker 1: they're in I don't know if they call it a recession.
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  Speaker 1: They're in a period of unease among their population, deep
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: trepidation about the future. I think they're saving a lot.
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: Is how you conclude. They're saving everything.
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  Speaker 6: They're saving, but they're also investing in gold and putting
• 57:29
  Speaker 6: it under their beds. Right, They're not the way to invest.
• 57:33
  Speaker 6: If you made some money in China, there were two
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  Speaker 6: ways to make, you know, to invest. One was real
• 57:39
  Speaker 6: estate and the other was what are called wealth management products,
• 57:43
  Speaker 6: and those boomed when the real estate section sector was booming,
• 57:48
  Speaker 6: and the real estate sector was twenty five percent essentially
• 57:51
  Speaker 6: of the Chinese economy. The real estate sector is now,
• 57:59
  Speaker 6: you know, in bankruptcy essentially. And to give you some
• 58:02
  Speaker 6: idea of how how difficult it is. There are sixty
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  Speaker 6: million empty units in China, apartments or small houses or whatever.
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  Speaker 6: Sixty million. That's greater than the population of Germany.
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  Speaker 1: That's a wild thing, all right. I want to move
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: on to Gordon Goldstein because I read this this morning.
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: This is in the Friday news items. One of the
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: reasons I read news items, maybe the most compelling is
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: it keeps me up to speed with science and tech.
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: And this is an AI story, Gordon Goldstein, AI with
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: the capacity for recursive self improvement may be a game
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: changer for global security. All AI attackers may be massively empowered.
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: Autonomous self improving AI technology could stimulate and design unique
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: biological weapons and lethal chemical agents that no human has
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: ever discovered or contemplated. Human oversight of AI models maybe
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: fatally weakened. Computational speed will be revolutionized. And this one's
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: a scary one, John. AI may communicate in an opaque language.
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: I hadn't considered that they may invent the machines might
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  Speaker 1: invent their own language that we don't know well.
• 59:19
  Speaker 6: That Jeffrey Hinton, who was said to be the godfather
• 59:24
  Speaker 6: of large language models, worked in his company. His piece
• 59:29
  Speaker 6: of paper. Essentially, his intellectual property was bought by Google.
• 59:33
  Speaker 6: He worked at Google for a number of years developing
• 59:35
  Speaker 6: their artificial intelligence. He resigned a couple of years ago
• 59:39
  Speaker 6: because he was so frightened by what he had burrowed. Essentially,
• 59:45
  Speaker 6: and what he talks about over and over again. If
• 59:47
  Speaker 6: you go to YouTube and look at some of the videos,
• 59:51
  Speaker 6: what he talks about again and again and again is
• 59:53
  Speaker 6: that AI will have its own language and that humans
• 59:56
  Speaker 6: won't be able to understand it, and that basically, at
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 6: that point who knows. But from his point of view,
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 6: if we don't get control of this thing now, the
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  Speaker 6: computers will be talking to each other and we won't
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 6: be knowing what they say.
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  Speaker 1: John heard Matt Continetti yesterday reference the Infinity Machine, Dennis Hassabis,
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: deep Mind, and the quest for something or other. I
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: can't remember what it was, but have you heard of
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: the Infinity Machine or Dennis Hassbis.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, he's the founder and chief executive of deep Mind,
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 6: which Google bought. I think ten years ago I did
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 6: a podcast with Sebastian Mallaby, who wrote the book The
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 6: Infinity Machine, and it's one of the best podcasts I've
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 6: ever done. Sebastian's book is a must read if you
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 6: want to know about AI. There are a number of
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 6: books to read. One of them is Sebastian Mallaby's book
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 6: about Dennis Asabis.
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  Speaker 1: It's really a good book. Is it alarming? It doesn't
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  Speaker 1: leave you somewady.
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  Speaker 6: Because he because Demis is is a is a good person,
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 6: is a you know, somebody that you want as a neighbor,
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 6: so to speak, is a good iss, a good egg.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 6: You feel much better that someone like him is running
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 6: the show or is a little least running the show
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 6: at Google. And the work that he's doing in the
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 6: development of pharmaceuticals and all sorts of other stuff is extraordinary,
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 6: uh and beneficial to mankind.
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  Speaker 1: But you know, he is the.
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  Speaker 6: First to say that if we don't get control of
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  Speaker 6: this thing or in real trouble.
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  Speaker 1: That's why you need to read news items. Go and
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: find it on substack news items. John Hell and we
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: welcome back America. I'm Hugh Hewitt. Yesterday you may have
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: seen that President Trump invited to the White House Major
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  Speaker 1: James Capers and his family CalPERS, excuse me, and no,
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: it's Capers and the family of Colonel John Ripley. Who's deceased,
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  Speaker 1: so that they could both receive the nation's highest award,
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  Speaker 1: the Medal of Honor, the Congressional Medal of Honor for
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: their actions in Vietnam. Today, both Major Capers and the
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: family of John Ripley were at the Hall of Heroes
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  Speaker 1: in the Pentagon so that General Eric Smith, the Commandant
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  Speaker 1: of the United States Marine Corps, could honor them both.
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  Speaker 1: Here's the first portion of his remarks, cut number three.
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  Speaker 7: Yesterday, I had the privilege of attending a ceremony decades
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  Speaker 7: in the making, where our President awarded the Medal of
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  Speaker 7: Honor to Major James Capers, Junior, and posthumously to Colonel
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  Speaker 7: John Ripley. Major Capers were proud to call you one
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  Speaker 7: of our own. For all marines when I say congratulations,
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  Speaker 7: and those congratulations are heartfelt by every PFC, every private
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  Speaker 7: up through the Commandant. Congratulations, sir, you are still looking
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  Speaker 7: fit to fight. We may recall you to Tom and
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  Speaker 7: the Ripley family. Thank you for joining us and for
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  Speaker 7: continuing to honor the legacy of Colonel John Ripley. Today
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  Speaker 7: we have the distinct honor of introducting both of these
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  Speaker 7: legendary marines into the Pentagon's Hall of Heroes. Their actions
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  Speaker 7: in Vietnam earned them a place alongside every other Medal
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  Speaker 7: of Honor recipient. But their stories did not begin on
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 7: the battlefield, began at home. Long before Major Capers and
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 7: Colonel Ripley earned the title Marine. Their families helped shape
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  Speaker 7: the men they would become. For Major Capers, it was
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 7: his family of sharecroppers whose example of hard work and
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 7: resilience helped forge his unshakable will and unbreakable will. For
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 7: Colonel Ripley, it was his parents whose strength during the
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 7: Great Depression taught him perseverance and determination. The Capers and
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 7: Ripley households remind us that families are the bedrock of
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  Speaker 7: our institution. They instill America's sons and daughters with the
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  Speaker 7: values they need to fight and win our nation's battles.
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  Speaker 7: Today's inductees lived those values throughout their long and illustrious careers,
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  Speaker 7: and especially in the crucible of their most demanding operation.
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  Speaker 1: A commandant then went on to discuss those operations about
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  Speaker 1: Major Capers. He said this cut number four.
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  Speaker 7: In April nineteen sixty seven, near Fulach, Vietnam, a newly
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  Speaker 7: commissioned second lieutenant Capers and his nine man element Team
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  Speaker 7: broad Minded found themselves cut off and surrounded by a
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 7: massive enemy force. Despite sustaining multiple devastating wounds, Lieutenant Capers
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  Speaker 7: refused to falter. Bleeding heavily, he continued to lead while
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 7: directing precise artillery fire onto the advancing enemy, shattering their onslaught.
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  Speaker 7: As helicopters descended into the chaos, he demanded that his
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 7: wounded marines be boarded first, refusing rescue until every last
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 7: survivor was flown to safety.
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  Speaker 8: And who does that? Who does that?
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  Speaker 7: Major Capers did that, And now he's with us today.
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  Speaker 1: And Nanny went on to talk about the lake. Colonel
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  Speaker 1: Ripley a legend cut number five.
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  Speaker 7: Five years later, in the fury of the nineteen seventy
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  Speaker 7: two Easter Offensive, Captain John Ripley faced a challenge just
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  Speaker 7: as herowing while advising South Vietnamese marines. He was charged
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  Speaker 7: with a monumental task destroy the Dongha Bridge to halt
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  Speaker 7: a massive North Vietnamese advance. Dangling fifty feet over a
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  Speaker 7: churning river, Colonel Ripley, then Captain Ripley hauled hundreds of
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  Speaker 7: pounds of explosives hand over hand, beneath the bridge. I mean,
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  Speaker 7: think about that, hundreds of pounds going hand overhand. That's
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 7: like doing a thousand pull ups. And he kept going
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  Speaker 7: while he was braving a torrential hail of enemy fire,
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  Speaker 7: all designated trying to kill him, all trying to kill
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  Speaker 7: one man dangling.
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  Speaker 8: Below a bridge.
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  Speaker 7: Starved of energy and tools, he clung to consciousness, using
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  Speaker 7: his own teeth to crimp the blasting caps in the charges.
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  Speaker 7: And think about that, using his own teeth to crimp
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  Speaker 7: the blasting caps. After three agonizing hours, he detonated the charges,
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  Speaker 7: bringing the enemy offensive to a dead stop. For heroism
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 7: that transcended the limits of human endurance. Major Capers and
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  Speaker 7: Colonel Ripley have been bestowed our nation's highest military.
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  Speaker 1: Arnor my brother in law Georgia there as he served
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: as a COVID in Vietnam with Colonel Ripley. Colonel Ripley
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: had the honor of being escorted around Annapolis by and
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: having lunch went down on an amazing man and long overdue.
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  Speaker 1: The Dangha River is a diorama in Annapolis Memorial Hall
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  Speaker 1: for a reason, and I'm glad both Major Capers and
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: Colonel Ripley were sel honored more on that when I
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  Speaker 1: come back quarterback America, I'm Hugh Hewett. When I go
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  Speaker 1: back to the Medal of Honor recipient ceremony at the
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  Speaker 1: Hall of Heroes and depending on today. Secretary of War
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  Speaker 1: Pete Hegseth Rosen had this to say about Major James
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  Speaker 1: Capers cut number six.
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  Speaker 8: In April nineteen sixty seven.
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  Speaker 9: Lieutenant Capers went looking for a down B fifty seven
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 9: bomber that crashed into the mountains, but by the time
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 9: he reached the site, the enemy had already been there.
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 8: The crewmen were missing.
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 9: All Lieutenant Capers found were goggles, and he spotted the
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 9: enemy's tracks nearby. He knew that he and his men
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 9: needed to get to safety. Lieutenant Capers radioed for extraction,
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 9: but the answer came back, it's raining, the weather is
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 9: too rough. The chopper can't fly. We can't get you
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 9: right now. And so Lieutenant Capers huddled his men together.
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 9: They negotiated minefields, they swam a river, and just as
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 9: they were almost to safety, the enemy opened fire on them.
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 9: Lieutenant Capers undaunted. We killed a bunch of them, he said.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 9: Long last, a Sikorsky chopper appeared. Lieutenant Capers refused to
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 9: leave before his marines as the commandant said, and he
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 9: remained in command until all his men were aboard.
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  Speaker 8: Bleeding and weary.
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 9: As the chopper lifted off, Lieutenant Capers watched as thunder
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 9: and lightning and high winds and rain moved in.
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 8: The chopper started to go down.
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 9: Lieutenant Capers looked up at the night sky and said,
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 9: I need help. He prayed, God, I need you well.
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 9: The chopper went higher and higher, and finally home to safety.
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 8: God reached out his.
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 9: Mighty hand and kept that chopper going. Jim Caper said,
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 9: God saved us when we needed to be saved.
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  Speaker 1: Then he said about Colonel John Ripley, and I heard
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: this story from Colonel Ripley live when he was alive.
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  Speaker 1: Cut number seven.
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  Speaker 9: Later, Captain John Ripley confronted the same enemy. The date
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 9: was Easter Sunday, nineteen seventy two. His superiors ordered him
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 9: to the pivotal Don Hob Bridge with a simple order
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 9: stand and die. As Captain Ripley recalled, the only way
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 9: to stop the enemy.
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  Speaker 8: Was to destroy the bridge.
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 9: The mission was overwhelming, and at first Captain Ripley had
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 9: no idea how he was going to carry five hundred
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 9: pounds of explosives there, but he still called the superior
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 9: and said, I will destroy that bridge. He reached up
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 9: and grabbed hold of the beam underneath the bridge, and
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 9: even though the Communists had rigged up German steel razor
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 9: wire to protect it, Captain Ripley began kicking his way
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 9: through with his weapons slung over his back, and explode
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 9: moosives in his webbing. Captain Ripley started handwalking himself under
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 9: the bridge and out over the river. Jesus Mary, get
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 9: me there, he prayed.
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 8: He repeated it rhythmically, Jesus Mary, get me there.
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 9: Exhausted and starving, Captain Ripley said that suddenly strength came.
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  Speaker 8: He swung up and.
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 9: Placed the explosives into the i beams and underneath the bridge.
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 9: Later Ripley would say the enemy was not happy about this.
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 9: They were trying to get my attention the whole time
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 9: and had thirty caliber messages coming my way.
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 8: But as he put it.
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 9: They were never successful. On that Easter Sunday, Captain Ripley
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 9: destroyed that bridge. He stopped that enemy, and in those
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 9: terror magnificent moments that we recall here today, the fellow
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 9: warriors of then Lieutenant Capers and then Captain Ripley bore
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 9: witness to a truth that no totalitarian ideology can ever suppress.
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 9: The freeman is made in the image of God, all
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 9: men made in the image of God, and his highest
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 9: destiny is love expressed through sacrifice for his fellow man.
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 1: As they're moving sermon, I watched most of it. My
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 1: brother in law was there who served as a Covan
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 1: with Colonel Ripley, and introduced me to Colonel Ripley, and
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 1: he wanted to go, so he traveled a bit to
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 1: get there, as did General Boomer, Colonel Turley, and all
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: the other Covans of that era from the seventy two
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 1: Easter Offensive. I'm sure Major Capers, friends and family, and
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 1: fellow Marines were They're en mass as well.