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Are Spurs real contenders to make the NBA Finals? · The So-Called Sports Analysts

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  Speaker 1: I don't know every day, a day or Friday, Ay Day,
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  Speaker 1: Gay Day, Welcome, welcome, Well you were wimby Jersey for
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  Speaker 1: the episode episode number one sixty right now.
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  Speaker 2: Where Josh he messed up his knee during his field
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  Speaker 2: day sixth grade. I did Bro Bros.
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  Speaker 3: But but if I was there, we would have won
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  Speaker 3: the relay. Bro, we would have won the three legged relay.
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  Speaker 1: Three legged relay.
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  Speaker 2: Uh, you never heard the three three legged relay? You
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  Speaker 2: never did those.
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  Speaker 1: For the field d nah, working my way up there.
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  Speaker 2: You'll get there one day, young, Yeah, I'm not. I'm
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  Speaker 2: not probably not yet. Yo, you understand one day now.
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  Speaker 2: anybody likes sports. But all right, let's get to it. So.
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  Speaker 2: I know you guys have been holding it down these
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  Speaker 2: past few NBA pods right here.
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  Speaker 3: You want to homework rather than hang out with us.
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  Speaker 3: But it's whatever.
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  Speaker 2: I'm on break now, I'm on spring break now.
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  Speaker 3: It's okay, I got I have two jobs. And you
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  Speaker 3: think that's stopping me too.
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  Speaker 2: You know what, So you know what, I won't miss
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  Speaker 2: another NBA pod.
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  Speaker 1: I won't.
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  Speaker 3: I gotta go. And then and then his then his
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  Speaker 3: step mom breaks her ankle and then excuse, excuse, like
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  Speaker 3: my step mom broke my ankle, broke your ankle? Oh
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  Speaker 3: my god, I can't do the pod, guys do it
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  Speaker 3: was my dogfall, It was my dogball guy. The baby guys,
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  Speaker 3: the babies are crying, and and my step mom's ankles broken,
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  Speaker 3: and and Bruno did it. And it was Bruno that
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  Speaker 3: did it.
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  Speaker 1: Excuses, just exactly a terrible excuses. Right. Oh, he's gonna
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  Speaker 1: be like sy club cyclub boy.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, don't get started with the sight club, bro. But alright,
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  Speaker 2: you know what, let me we don't really have a
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  Speaker 2: direction this, but I'm gonna just start with the Western
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  Speaker 2: Conference just as standards, and we could talk about this
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  Speaker 2: game that happens to night.
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  Speaker 1: How many weeks the top game tonight?
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  Speaker 2: Well oh no, well just in general we'll talk about it.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: See, there's the one seed fifty one and fifteen. Spurs
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  Speaker 2: are the second seed forty seven and seventeen, three games behind.
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  Speaker 2: After that, there's a big gap Minnesota three seed, forty
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  Speaker 2: and twenty four, Real four and six seed in thirty
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  Speaker 2: nine and twenty four, LA thirty nine and twenty five
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  Speaker 2: out the five seed, and Denver thirty nine and twenty six.
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  Speaker 2: So just from that top six right there. So what
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  Speaker 2: are you guys seeing overall this game or what are
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  Speaker 2: you guys thinking?
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  Speaker 3: I think, for me, overall, what I'm seeing is the
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  Speaker 3: clear separation between the Oklahoma City Thunder and the San
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  Speaker 3: Antonio Spurs. Like I think we're truly starting to see
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  Speaker 3: like a separation between the other teams and this and
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  Speaker 3: like how they're the other team's flaws are just not
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  Speaker 3: president in Oklahoma City and San Antonio, And I think
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  Speaker 3: that's gonna become a problem come playoff time, because while
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  Speaker 3: the Thunder and Spurs have a lot of answers, these
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  Speaker 3: other teams are struggling as well. I think as far
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  Speaker 3: as like let's say, like the Houston Rockets, Like I
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  Speaker 3: think there's a clear narrative that the Spurs kind of unlock,
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  Speaker 3: maybe have shown other teams on what they can do
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  Speaker 3: on how to stop the Houston Rockets and that's to
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  Speaker 3: double team Kevin Durant and let everyone else beat you.
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  Speaker 3: Because Alvin Sengun, even though he's had great moments, he's
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  Speaker 3: a defensive liability at this point, and I think that's
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  Speaker 3: what's hurting this team quite often. And i'men Thompson like
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  Speaker 3: a'm and Thompson, we think his potential is there, but
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  Speaker 3: without a jump shot, he is at times a problem
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  Speaker 3: for this Houston Rockets team. And I just think we
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  Speaker 3: know the problems with the Lakers transition defense, and honestly,
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if you look, if y'all have looked
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  Speaker 3: at their on and off numbers, they're better when it's
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  Speaker 3: only two of the three superstars on the court than
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  Speaker 3: it is all three of them on the court because
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  Speaker 3: with only two of them, they're able to generate fluid
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  Speaker 3: offense and play better defense because that means there's two
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  Speaker 3: there's one less trash defender on the court. So and
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  Speaker 3: then as far as Denver, it's just injuries, man. Injuries
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  Speaker 3: keep catching up to this basketball team. Yo Kiss taking
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  Speaker 3: some time to get his feet back underneath them coming
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  Speaker 3: back from his injury, and it's really hurt them and
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  Speaker 3: really had them falling really far down in the standings,
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  Speaker 3: and that's what's ultimately brought Minnesota right back up in
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  Speaker 3: the rankings because they've been very consistent, especially with the
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  Speaker 3: addition of Io. If you look at his numbers, it's
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  Speaker 3: not gonna pop out on the board, but what he
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  Speaker 3: does where the numbers don't show, it's really adding something
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  Speaker 3: else to this team that they really did need, and
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  Speaker 3: that's a secondary ball handler or a secondary playmaker outside
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  Speaker 3: of Anthony Edwards, where that's not really his strong suit
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  Speaker 3: as a basketball player.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, just bouncing off of that, I think the Timberwolves
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  Speaker 1: just being able to add Io is such a big
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  Speaker 1: point of emphasis. They really needed that guard, and just
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  Speaker 1: being able to add him at the deadline we've seen,
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  Speaker 1: we've seen what it has done for and being able
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  Speaker 1: to revert his role rather than like pushing him to
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  Speaker 1: be this point guard. And I feel like this kind
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  Speaker 1: of like off topic, but that's what Devin Booker has become.
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  Speaker 1: They've never had like a true point guard ever since
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  Speaker 1: Chris Paul, so they've like thrust him into this point
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  Speaker 1: guard role. Whereas his best basketball being played ever was
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  Speaker 1: with Chris Paul when he had like a really good
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  Speaker 1: point guard and then He's just able to do what
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  Speaker 1: he does as a dynamic score like one of the
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  Speaker 1: best scorers we've probably seen of this generation. I feel
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  Speaker 1: like who else has dropped seventy points like him, you know?
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  Speaker 1: And I think that being able to have Ao there
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  Speaker 1: with Aunt is so like it's so good for Aunt,
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  Speaker 1: like I said, just to revert back to this role,
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  Speaker 1: just being able to be that dynamic scorer, take a
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  Speaker 1: step back and not have to take the ball up,
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  Speaker 1: letting Ao do all this because Ao has been shining
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  Speaker 1: and Fonso can attest to this, just being able to Yeah, bro,
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  Speaker 1: Ao is such a difference maker. And also the Rockets
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  Speaker 1: what they failed to do at the deadline, and it's
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  Speaker 1: hurt them so much, is address that point guard. That
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  Speaker 1: point guard need. Yes, reach Shepherd has been able to
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  Speaker 1: come in and play some good minutes, but without having
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  Speaker 1: other Like I don't trust any other people to shoot
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  Speaker 1: the rock on their team read Shepherd and k are
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  Speaker 1: probably their best shooters. And Aman Thompson, I don't think
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  Speaker 1: he'll ever develop a jump shot, Like I feel like
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  Speaker 1: that's something we have to realize, Like people who come
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  Speaker 1: into the league and don't have a jump shot. I
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  Speaker 1: just don't think they'll ever get one like.
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  Speaker 3: But I also do think that there has to be
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  Speaker 3: like a development like Kawhi Leonard. Like Kawhi Leonard already
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  Speaker 3: had like the base fundamentals down on, like a good
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  Speaker 3: shooting form. It would just like you have to have
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  Speaker 3: perfect him by Chip Ingle, like because Kyle Leonard coming
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  Speaker 3: into the NBA terrible three point shitter, like one of
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  Speaker 3: the worst in the entire NBA, but then he now
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  Speaker 3: look at him like he's one of the most lethal
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  Speaker 3: in the NBA. But I think on your point as
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  Speaker 3: far as like Reach Shepherd, I think the Spurs also
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  Speaker 3: in their matchup this the other night as well, exposed
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  Speaker 3: something as well. They just sent bodies at him as
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  Speaker 3: soon as he touched the ball every single time, and
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  Speaker 3: they just forced turnover after turnover at turnover, and it
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  Speaker 3: really made him a liability for this Houston Rockets team
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  Speaker 3: and they ultimately had to switch to go to their
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  Speaker 3: backups like to try to get generating some offense, and
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  Speaker 3: they started airballing three pointers as well. So it was
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  Speaker 3: kind of like one of those things like they don't
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  Speaker 3: have that playmaker that can just create instant offense at
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  Speaker 3: all times. Reach Shepherd can give you moments, But moments
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  Speaker 3: isn't enough when you're playing big time teams night in
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  Speaker 3: and night out, because you need consistency and that's right
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  Speaker 3: now and at this point in his career, reach Shepherd
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  Speaker 3: is not offering that. And he's just too small for
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  Speaker 3: the bigger guards in the Western Conference right now.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, especially when you go into a playoffs set and
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  Speaker 2: even against let's just say it stays, stays as it
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  Speaker 2: is right now. The four or five matchup LA versus Houston,
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  Speaker 2: even though it's the Lakers, they'll have some games where
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  Speaker 2: they'll go off against the Lakers. I think, just because
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  Speaker 2: the lack of point guard that will struggle against the
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  Speaker 2: Lakers defense, which is one of the worst defenses in
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  Speaker 2: the entire league. And Okay, I'll say this, I don't
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  Speaker 2: take I don't take Houston serious. I don't take LA series.
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  Speaker 2: It's just the top four, Okay, they think it's okay, definite.
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  Speaker 3: Question question, quick question on the Lakers in Houston. Is
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  Speaker 3: this a gap year for them?
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  Speaker 1: Like?
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  Speaker 3: Is this a gap year? Like because you sign you
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  Speaker 3: signed KD to this two year contract extension. Fred ran
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  Speaker 3: fleieg Injers himself, is it kind of like Okay, like,
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  Speaker 3: we're waiting for our guy to come back. We understand
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  Speaker 3: that we can still be competit. And as far as
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  Speaker 3: the Lakers, I think it's kind of just waiting for
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  Speaker 3: Lebron to leave. If I'm being honest with you, that's
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  Speaker 3: fifty four million dollars to the cap that they could
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  Speaker 3: be spinning elsewhere.
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  Speaker 2: I think the Lakers, it's just their team is so misconstructed,
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  Speaker 2: but they have so many talented teams to lose.
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  Speaker 3: I'm just saying, like, is it like, okay, we understand
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  Speaker 3: why they're not gonna win.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I get that. I think the Lakers Lakers
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  Speaker 2: in Houston, it's two separate situations. Houston, they're trying to
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  Speaker 2: go all in this year. The Lakers, it's like, well,
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  Speaker 2: we have Luca, Austin Reeves and Lebron. We're gonna automatically
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  Speaker 2: be a top seven seed no matter what, because we're
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  Speaker 2: just that damn talented, and fifty games they play, we're
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  Speaker 2: gonna win forty of them. And that's exactly what it's
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  Speaker 2: been this year, whether they have defense or not. I
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  Speaker 2: just think it's a true gap year for the Lakers
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  Speaker 2: because Lebron, but we could talk goes to Cleveland or
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  Speaker 2: wherever it goes. Houston, they should have had their chips
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  Speaker 2: on the table. They should have went for Iyo Desumu.
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  Speaker 2: They is with Minnesota Anthony Edwards Like like you guys
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  Speaker 2: were saying, just another sh just Trey.
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  Speaker 3: Jones, Like we weren't asking for like just went for
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  Speaker 3: another bulls guard. No, We're no, like legit, Like that's
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  Speaker 3: what me and Ryan were talking about, Like as far
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  Speaker 3: as Houston, like all they had to do was get
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  Speaker 3: someone that could just pass the rock, you know.
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  Speaker 1: Like the offer star splash, you can make these like
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  Speaker 1: on the edge type.
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  Speaker 3: Of because I look at Wimby's rookie year, like even
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  Speaker 3: though it's not Trey Jones, Look what like the difference
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  Speaker 3: between him playing with Jeremy Sohan and then jumping to
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  Speaker 3: Trey Jones when they when they move Trey Jones back
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  Speaker 3: into the starting lineup after his he came back from
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  Speaker 3: injury like he was, it was a night and day
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  Speaker 3: difference on how much better Wimby played with Tray Jones
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  Speaker 3: than he did with Jeremy so In. And so that's
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  Speaker 3: why this offense isn't playing good because they're trying to
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  Speaker 3: make something happen from Am and Thompson. That's just not
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  Speaker 3: gonna happen, you know. And like as much as you
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  Speaker 3: say Fonzo, you thought he would be better than Cooper Flag,
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  Speaker 3: it's just not gonna happen.
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  Speaker 1: Forgotten that well.
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  Speaker 3: Al can actually play point guard, that's just the difference
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  Speaker 3: and a three pointer.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, as for your question, Josh, I have to agree
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  Speaker 1: with Fonso, Like the Rockets like signing kd on that
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  Speaker 1: two year deal.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's an instant, It's yeah.
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  Speaker 1: It showed that they're all in. It showed that they're
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  Speaker 1: trying to win it all. So there's no excuse for
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  Speaker 1: them to be able to be like no, this is
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  Speaker 1: a gap or no, you you should have made a
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  Speaker 1: move and everyone knew it, like they were the losers
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  Speaker 1: of the trade deadline because they made no move. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: they didn't even try to make any minor moves like yeah,
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  Speaker 1: like a Trey Jones or like his brother Tyers played
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  Speaker 1: bad this season, but something along those lines, like just
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  Speaker 1: on the fringe point guard, who will get you, who
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  Speaker 1: will facilitate the offense. And as for the Lakers, like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I agree with you as you were saying, it's just
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  Speaker 1: they gotta wait for Lebron to leave. They gotta it's
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  Speaker 1: too offensive centric right now. They don't have they don't
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  Speaker 1: have no three and D players like their team is.
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  Speaker 1: They have different type of role players. Like they're in
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  Speaker 1: a situation where they don't have good enough players, so
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  Speaker 1: you want to like combine role players if that makes sense,
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  Speaker 1: like Jared Vanderbelt's defense and like Luke Canards shooting or
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  Speaker 1: like Jackson Hays' motor and DeAndre Aightens like body like
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  Speaker 1: like I don't know, but that's just that's just a
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  Speaker 1: spot they're in. They don't have good enough role players, Like,
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  Speaker 1: yes they have, they don't have true players to put
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  Speaker 1: around Luca and Lebron is sadly his career is he's
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  Speaker 1: not the same Lebron that we once knew. He's literally
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  Speaker 1: like forty two, forty one, forty he's forty one, Like
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  Speaker 1: how are you gonna rely on Lebron James at this age?
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  Speaker 1: Like you can't rely on him to be your like
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  Speaker 1: second best defender at forty one. So so yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: just think it is a gap year for the Lakers
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  Speaker 1: and they truly are waiting for this squad.
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  Speaker 3: I also think the problem for the Lakers also is like,
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  Speaker 3: let's compare them to the top two teams in the
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  Speaker 3: Western Conference, like their role players as far as the Lakers,
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  Speaker 3: Ruy and Luke Canard and and like some of these
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  Speaker 3: guys that can kind of shoot three pointers, they don't
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  Speaker 3: shoot contested three pointers. And it doesn't keep a defense honest,
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  Speaker 3: like you're they're only shooting wide open shots and they're
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  Speaker 3: and they're just defenses don't have to respect them like
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  Speaker 3: because like they know they're not gonna pull it if
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  Speaker 3: they're covering them, so they can just play smothering defense
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  Speaker 3: and it forces a lot of ISO situations, which leads
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  Speaker 3: to tough buckets in the interior. But if we look
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  Speaker 3: at Oklahoma City Thunder, I mean, I think for me,
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  Speaker 3: this was a problem I think in the seat, like
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  Speaker 3: at the beginning of the season, like for me, and
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  Speaker 3: one of their biggest knocks was that they I don't
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  Speaker 3: think they had a secondary player that can kind of
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  Speaker 3: take over a game and kind of create his own shot.
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  Speaker 3: But now having Jared McCain and who's not afraid to
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  Speaker 3: take shots even without being wide open, adds another element
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  Speaker 3: to their team. But as far as the San Antonino
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  Speaker 3: Spurs as well, Julian Champagna and Devnvessel do not care
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  Speaker 3: who is in their face, like they're gonna like they're
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  Speaker 3: gonna yeah and that, And I understand having Wimby's gravitational
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  Speaker 3: pull is so much more because they're just trying to
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  Speaker 3: send two to him in the interior. But you have
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  Speaker 3: to respect a shooter if you if you know he's
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  Speaker 3: just gonna pull it every single time he touches the ball,
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  Speaker 3: like you know, you can't. You can't just leave him
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  Speaker 3: like on even you can't do them open because they're
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  Speaker 3: both forty five percent three point shooters when they're wide open.
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  Speaker 3: But then when they're covered, there's still thirty three percent yeah,
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  Speaker 3: three point shooters, which is still a respectable number in
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  Speaker 3: the NBA for a concest at three point shooting. And
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  Speaker 3: that's something the Lakers don't offer. They don't offer a
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  Speaker 3: player that's just gonna be like if I have this
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  Speaker 3: rock in my hand, I'm gonna make the defense respect
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  Speaker 3: me because it opens up the rest of the offense.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Luca is the only one maybe because it.
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  Speaker 3: Doesn't make that, It doesn't it doesn't make the defense
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  Speaker 3: respect the role players around you like they could be
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  Speaker 3: like I'll sag off of them close out. He's not
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  Speaker 3: gonna he's not gonna do anything. But now when you
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  Speaker 3: close out, you have to respect the other players on
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  Speaker 3: the court because there's easy cutting. There's either easy cuts
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  Speaker 3: to the baskets creating open shots.
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  Speaker 2: And not only that, but just in a playoff environment,
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  Speaker 2: well kind of like we're talking about off off the
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  Speaker 2: pod whenever, whenever you're in the playoffs, you're not gonna
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  Speaker 2: have no two three feet away from anybody. It's gonna
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  Speaker 2: be rare. Somebody's gonna be open. So the Spurs, the Thunder,
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  Speaker 2: even the Timberlves they're gonna be used. Those role players
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  Speaker 2: are gonna be used to be taking those shots. It's
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  Speaker 2: not gonna be no different. It's just gonna be a
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  Speaker 2: normal game. But compared to the Lakers and the Rockets
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  Speaker 2: and these other lesser teams, it's gonna be like, oh, well,
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  Speaker 2: they're actually covering me, so obviously their percentage are gonna
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  Speaker 2: drop down. And that's why offenses usually drop a lot
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  Speaker 2: more in the playoffs. But speaking of the playoffs, since
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  Speaker 2: all three of us are on, I wanted to get
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  Speaker 2: to this. The Spurs, the Spurs, and the playoffs are
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  Speaker 2: they true contenders or are they not?
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  Speaker 1: You want to go first or last?
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  Speaker 3: Josh, it's up to y'all.
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  Speaker 1: You choose.
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  Speaker 3: I'll go last, I'll go last.
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  Speaker 1: All right, I'll go. So this is my take on
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  Speaker 1: the Spurs. By the way, No it's not. I feel
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  Speaker 1: like this is a very good take.
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  Speaker 3: So they're the Buffalo Bills.
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  Speaker 1: That's not what I'm about to say. That's now I'm
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  Speaker 1: not even gonna talk about the Thunder. I'm talking about
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: the Spurs. So the Spurs. Yes, I do think that
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: in the playoffs, what you need is physicality and defense.
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: And what do the Spurs bring physicality in defense? They're
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: one of the most physical teams. They're top three in
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: defense probably I would say the best. With Winnby on
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: the floor, they are the best, one of the best
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: defenses in the league. Time whatever. But I just think
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: that going into the playoffs, as this young team, they're
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: I think this is just like the Sweetheart that everyone
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: like Sweetheart of the NBA right now. They're on They
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: went eleven to zero in the in the month of February,
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: and I just think everyone's riding this train of the
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: Spurs because they feel like, Okay, see are these villains now,
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: and they don't want to see like repetition and they
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: want to see the Spurs. They saw the Spurs take
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: down the Thunder in the regular season, and they're like,
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: oh wow, like these are these are the ones, these
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: are the people who are gonna like take down the
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: villains because I feel like people see, okay, see as
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: the villains now. But I just don't think that they're
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: gonna be able to produce as much on offense in
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: the playoffs due to their defensive intensity, if that makes sense.
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: Wimby having to like disperse so much energy on the
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: defensive end, as well as Stefan Castle having to guard
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: the best player along with Dylan Harper having to come
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: in and subverb Stefan Castle and maybe guard the best player.
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: I think that they're just not gonna be ready for
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: the moment, and I think that their offense isn't gonna
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: translate as well into the playoffs as we think. And
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: I've been saying this for like in the group chat
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: for like today, we're arguing about it, and I was like,
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: Wimby literally played it back, like played a physical Pistons
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: team and then played it back to them. He played
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: that team right, and then he played he played against
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: the Clippers and almost died. He literally was crying by
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: the way he was crying because he he was like,
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: I was so exhausted, Like what do you expect from
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: the playoffs? Wimby, Like Wimby is so good, But if
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: you're gonna be able to if you're gonna like be
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: dis exhausted, then what are you expecting the playoffs when
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: you're going against the Timberwolves, who are like one of
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: the most aggressive teams, the Thunder, even the Nuggets. Just
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: having to play these physical teams within a one to
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: two week span, within a seven game series where they're
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: solely focused on you and they gained plan specifically around
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: you and know what to do, rather than having to
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: just come up with something something a day or two
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: in advance before a regular season game. I just don't
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: think that they're ready for the leap yet. Me and
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: Funds were talking about it before, whereas like the Thunder
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: their first year coming into the playoffs, everyone was like ooh,
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: like they're gonna make it, and then they get bounced
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: second round to Luca, an experienced team who are vets
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: in the playoffs and know what to do, and I
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: think that's truly what's gonna come down with the Spurs.
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: And I know there's no other Winby. There's never been
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: no other Wimby or anyone like him. I just think
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: that they're not ready yet for the playoff atmosphere. And yes,
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: they bring this defense and all this intensity, like I've said,
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: but the like where and tear comes with that, and
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: I don't think they fully experience that, and we've seen
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: that with the first year of the Thunder's run. So yeah,
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: that's my take on the Spurs, and I don't think
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: I don't think they make the finals. Their ceiling to
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: me is the conference finals.
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: In my opinion, I would say the same thing as
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: far as the seling is the conference finals. But I'm
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: kind of similar. I'm not as strong against as far
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: as with the Spurs Spurs as far as like, no,
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: they're not contenders because if you make the conference finals
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: or the seiling, you're gonna have to be considered contenders
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: in the book because you finished top four overall in
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: the NBA. I know there's not a top four, but
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: you'd finish top four, I've bet everybody, And yes, like
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: you're saying, there's no, Victor Wibin y'am. As far as
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: what he can do defensively, he could shut down an
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: entire offense, especially when everything slows down. You have so
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: many primitive defenders around, and I think the only real
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: weakness I would say part of their defense is they
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: don't have a bigger forward. Yes you have Harrison Barnes,
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: Yes you have Keldon Johnson, But I mean a team
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: that has like, let's say Lebron James, Let's say Kawhi Leonard,
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: who could be first round matchup. That's gonna give them
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: potential problems right there. But the biggest thing is you
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: never see a team I think I went back the
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: only team I don't know the exact year, but it
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: was a seventy seventy one Portland Trailblazers with Bill Walton.
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: That was the last time. Yeah, whenever there was a
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: team who had pretty much no experience besides one or
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: two people who actually won the championship and went into.
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: The deal with the seventies.
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we're done with the seventies. But I think it
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: matters more than football, baseball, anything else, because these series
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: are a lot longer. Like you're saying, the game plan
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: and the coaching is so much smarter. So do I
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: think they're gonna get past the first round versus I'm
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: just saying the Clippers because that's most likely. Yes, I do.
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: And after that, I'm assuming it would be something along
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: the lines of a Minnesota at Denver. No, I don't
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: think they'd get past the second round. So realistically, I
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: see them being a second round exit. Not saying they
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: get complete obliterated, but I think it's something like, damn,
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: we're down two oh, We're gonna have to catch up.
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: And if you have to beat a team four times
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: in a span of a week, if you're down two oh,
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: that's gonna be tough to come back, especially just a
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: young inexperience and also just playoff environment too. That's a
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: different thing. I'm not gonna say. I'll say this, Wimby,
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: he's gonna do his thing. Wimby bare minimum, great defensive
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: player and twenty points a game. That's gonna be Well,
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: that's what I expect his floor to be. If he
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: gets more than twenty five twenty eight, then okay, that's
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: a plus. But I'm just saying I expect Wemby in
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: his first playoff debut to have that twenty two to
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: twenty three points per game, great defense, something along those lines.
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: But next year, like you're saying, Ryan, that's when I
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: see the jump because you don't see it's never been
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: done before, like I said, other than that one time
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: where a young team went to the finals and won.
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: So right, Josh, Thunder and I think they're a better team.
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: They were team yeah, and they are not.
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: Statistically all last year and everything.
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: We look at every every team from the San Antonio
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: Spurs compared to every single team in the Western Conference.
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: What matters the most depth? Not a single team, even
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: the Oklahoma City Thunder do not have the same depth,
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: especially on the defensive end as the San Antonio Spurs,
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: any team in this in this Western Conference. But also
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: the depth of players hold on the depth of the
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: player's ability to be able to create their own shot.
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: There's not another team that has that amount of depth.
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: And you want to talk about physicality. They just beat
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: the best defense in the entire NBA and obliterated their
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: defense two straight games in the span of a week.
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: In the span of two weeks with the Detroit Pistons.
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: They they're point attack defending on every single Star player.
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: Can y'all hear me, because I can't hear myself no more?
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: Am I in my headphones? Okay? So the depth, the depth.
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: They are the best at the point of attack, defending
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: as soon as a player passes half court and you're
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: saying Stefan Castle has to is gonna get tired. All
• 24:16
  Speaker 3: Stefan Castle does is guard the best player died of
• 24:19
  Speaker 3: a night out and holds Cade Cunningham and take them
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: completely out of the MVP race for fifteen and fifty
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: two on this in two games and as far as
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: SGA SGA one on one versus Stefan Castle has his
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: worst shooting percentage in the entire NBA compared to when
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: he's guarding one on one face up against anybody else.
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: Kevin Durant, same thing. And you know what also is
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: interesting about this new San Antonio's first team. After the
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: All Star break, they introduced another defensive specimen who's also
• 24:46
  Speaker 3: has the second best defensive rating on the team and
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: is bumping up minutes by minutes each and every single game,
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: mister Carter Bryant. And you know what Mitch Johnson did
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: last last game versus the Los Angeles Clippers as a
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: point to get them back into the game. He ran
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: a small ball five to two to three lineup with
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: guess who at the center against Brook Lopez Carter Bryant,
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: and he made his job hell in the interior. Because
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: the Spurs have depth galore, and we can look at this,
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: Harrison Barnes has not played during this February stretch because
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: he's been injured. Jillian Champagne and Devin Vessel are Devin
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: Vessel himself is finally getting back into form, and that's
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: something that other teams do not have a fourth or
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: fifth score that can create their own shots. We do,
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: no one else does in the entire NBA, and that's
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: just the flat out truth. While also being able to
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: generate flat out amazing defense, and and that's never gonna change.
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: The Spurs are always going to be a good defensive
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: team no matter who they play, even come playoff time,
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: just a matter of the other teams being able to
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: stop them on the other side. And there's a reason
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: why you bring in de Aaron Fox. And if we
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: look at this continuation of how they've won these basketball games,
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: the Aaron Fox has been the go to guy every
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: single time in crunch time and he showed up every
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: single time and answered the bell and has averaged around
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: like eight points per game in the fourth quarter every
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: single time. Because he's clutched. Player of the Year d
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: Aaron Fox. He knows when to show up. And if
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: we look at these other guys that they have on
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: the team, Kylan Harper, Rookie of the Month, he averaged sixteen.
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: He averaged sixteen off the bench alone in the month
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: of February while also generating the almost the same while
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: also being top ten and getting to the basket in
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: the entire NBA as a rookie. This isn't a regular
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: young basketball team because, like you said, because they have
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: on me. That's exactly why they are a regular basketball team.
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: Because no other team has had a point has had
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: the best defender of all time as their star player.
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: And you can say, yes, he'll only average twenty three,
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: that's all he needs to average, because you know why,
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: because this roster goes nine players deep who all averaged
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: ten plus points per game. That is why the San
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: Antono Spurs. I'm not saying that they're gonna win the
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: NBA Chanpampionship, but I think they are locked to be
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: in the conference finals.
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: I get that they like averaged like nine players averaged
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: ten plus points, but this is a regular season, Like
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: will they average this much in the playoffs.
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: But if we look at that, they've answered the bell
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: every single time against all the top teams in the
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: NBA except for the New York Knicks for some reason,
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: that's the only team that they have not answered the
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: bell against. But every other team the Thunder have had
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: no answers, no real answers. They had one great game
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: versus them, but even in their three other matchups, they
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: exposed weaknesses and check Homegod on the interior. And they
• 27:33
  Speaker 3: also point out they also allowed this double team SGA
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: and said, Alex Cruso, you go beat us, Lou Dort,
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: you go beat us. Who know what they did to
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: the Houston Rockets. Took out Kevin Duran and Alfred Stangun
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: out the game, and they forced all the other role
• 27:47
  Speaker 3: players to go and beat you, and they have not
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: been able to do it. The Detroit Pistons. There's a
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: reason why Detroit Pistons have dropped for their last five games.
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: That's because the Santurns exposed exactly how to beat the
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: Detroit Pistons and every other team in the NBA is
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: now doing it. It's guard the hell out of Kid
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: Cunningham and allow and put and and use their weaknesses
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: against them. And that's that they get into foul trouble
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: very easily and completely take Jayalen during out the game
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: and all these other players the Spurs. The Spurs have
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: maybe young, but they are also lethal in approach and
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: they expose every other team's weaknesses before theirs get exposed.
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: The Spurs when they have lost, they they they they
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: have terrible knights from the three point line, but when
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: they do win, they're having great knights from the three
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: point line while also jury in great offense and great defense.
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: And the Spurs, when Wimby hits four threes, they're un
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: defeated on the season. When he hits when he even
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: just attempts, when he attempts at least eight threes in
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: the season, they're still undefeated. Because you know why Wimby
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: is the anomaly. Wimby is a three level score in
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: a in a three level defender is a three level
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: defender and a and a three level score. He can
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: do it all and it makes other defenses respect him,
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: and it leaves one of these lethal other other players
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: that can create their own shot as well to get
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: to the basket or or shoot from three or the
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: mid range. And the Spurs have done that the best
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: since right before the all start break, and no one
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: has been comparable besides the Charlotte Hornets of all teams.
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: So I know, Charlotte Hornets, great offense versus great defense,
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: love love just see those two matchups. No, there's my rant,
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: there's my rent, the depth piece, the depth piece, I
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: get that. That makes sense. But whenever it comes to
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: the playoffs.
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: Usually but these aren't. These are veterans.
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: Nine, it's nine man rotation. Usually it's an eight man
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: rotation at most. And again.
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: Really really like you saw the Thunder be able to
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: switch lineups throughout the finals because of how.
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: Much they have, and even at that, whenever it came
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: to Game seven versus Denver, versus versus the Pacers, they
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: just rocked with the eight man lineup and said, I
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: know we have all this depth, but you're gonna get
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: two minutes here, you're gonna get three minutes there. So
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: the depth piece, I get that. You you had that
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: in your bag there, that that makes sense, But again
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: I'm not worried about Winby.
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: Wimby.
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: He's gonna be again. I think that's one of the
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: most out of everybody in the playoffs. He has one
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: of the safest floors for what are you gonna do
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: in the playoffs. It's all right, he's gonna have great defense,
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: twenty points a game. It's just again, every everybody else.
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: I know you're gonna have Daron Darren Fox and Winby. Yes,
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: I get that, but again, the Stephan Castle, the Dylan Harper,
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: everybody else. Compared to OKAC, Minnesota, Houston, LA, Denver, everybody else,
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: they all had serious minutes in the playoffs, all of
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: these role players. I'm not saying they're not gonna beat Houston,
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: LA or those guys, but mainly Minnesota, Denver, ok SE
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: those teams who have experience and their coaches have experience
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: as well. We're not mentioning that too. You need that experience,
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: you need to get your feet wet, because again, it's
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: just a different environment. I can see them making the
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: conference finals. Maybe maybe if they play the Clippers and
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: then they play the winner of Houston and Lakers. Oh yeah,
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: if I see that path, then I'm gonna say, Okay,
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: they're going to the conference finals, but as it looks
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: right now, they're gonna face a winner of Minnesota and Denver,
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: and I just can't see them beating them in the
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: second round as of this year. Next year, for sure.
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: I would say that Wimby was literally the other night
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: twenty feet away from an inbounds play, And Tyler said
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: this after the game. Nicholas Batum did not pass the
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: ball because he thought Wimby would be able to get it.
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: He was twenty feet away, by the way, and he
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: was about to get set a screen on and Derek
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: Jones Junior would have been wide open. So what does
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: he do? He ruins the entire play, passes the ball
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: into brook Lopez. What does brook Lopez do? Passed the
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: ride back to Nicholas Batum who was standing out of bounds,
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: disrupted the whole play, Spurs win the game. Wimby is
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: different compared to any other guy that has come before him.
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: They respect him even when the even when the whistle
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: isn't blown yet. That's the problem. That's the difference. You
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: can say, s g. A. Bestia isn't putting this fear
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: or intimidator into anyone on the defensive end like a
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: Victor Winmbanyama. And that's the that's the difference. You can
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: you can generate offense from multiple players. I understand it,
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: and I think that's part of the reason why I
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: think Jared McCain is very important is Oklahoma City Thunder,
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: because if they did not have him, I would not
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: respect Oklahoma City Thunder right now, like I really literally wouldn't,
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: because I think he's part of the main reasons why
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: I think they're gonna be able to generate some offense
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: in that secondary spot because many times this season they've Yeah,
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: but let's see if he can get there. Okay, let's
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: see if he can actually when first, Yeah, let's let's
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: let's play ten straight games first. How about that.
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: He would have won six Man of the Year.
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: Well he's not, so.
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: Go ahead, right.
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: It probably is.
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Nazrid always wins it.
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: So you see reached Shepherd jumped his second.
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's second right now, and same bromv yes, am
• 33:11
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• 33:16
  Speaker 1: Trust trust Now that's Damien discord.
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: If you liked it, yeah, no, good, good, go good, No,
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: you're good.
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: No, we can move on next segment.
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: Oh, I was just gonna I was just gonna ask
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: you guys as far as to rank the top four
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: because we all feel the same about Houston and l A.
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: Pretty much we already got into it ranking the top
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: four of the Western Conference. Okay, see San Antonio, Minnesota,
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: and Denver.
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: I'll put Okay, see one right now, just because basically, yeah,
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: I think I think I put them number one just
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: based off because I mean, got to give the respect
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: that they're still like the number one seed right now.
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: Easier path and plus like like experience does matter to
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: an extent until San Antonio punches you in the mouth
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: once again.
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd have to go to Thunder two if you're
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: able to watch the game tonight, just like what like
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: lit what they were able to do tonight.
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: I'm not gonna lie yo Kic without them, without the
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: Murray playing this one jamal like, but like, dude, they're
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: they're able to just to adjust so much like as
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: the Nuggets like at certain points and it makes them
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: pretty impressive, like especially with Man.
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: Like the Nuggets in the playoffs are a different animal.
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: And I get people are like saying, like, oh they're
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: mid day were having an off season, but I like,
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: I genuinely don't care, Like whenever gets into the playoffs,
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: he's a monster, bro.
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: And playing.
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: Yes, he starred jam David Adaman is probably like he's
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: he's I feel like he's crept into like one of
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: the best coaches in the NBA, like being able to
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: adjust on the fly. And granted he has Nicola Jokic,
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: but still easier. Yeah, but still just being able to
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: And recently Jokis has actually been showing like he's been
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: showing like a passion, Like I don't know if y'all
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: saw it last game. I was watching the Nuggets game
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: and he was like on fire in the huddle, talked
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: about defense, he was like shuffling. He was like he
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: always trying to bring up the spurd, bro, Like, come on.
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: Almost as much passion as you had to. When we
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: were recording the other pod, it look like Ryan was
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: ready to fight Josh on the other pot already.
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: But yeah, just having Uh to be able to do
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: that is so crucial for the Nuggets. And yeah, I
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: just genuinely don't care. I put in my since he
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: said ranked the top four, I put thunder Nuggets and
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: then probably I'd probably go Spurs over Woods. But it's
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: like really close.
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: That's insane, bro, Like that.
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: Is It's sane.
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: I'm going I'm going, Okay, see Minnesota, Denver, San Antonio.
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: I think Minnesota is so I think Minnesota, Okay, Minnesota
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: and Denver.
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: I think what what the knock on Denver is is
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: their defense. Yeah, but also being able to have like.
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: Cam Johnson being complete ass like that's that's.
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: The the worst trades to see this offseason, but before
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: they've literally had one of the best defenses over this
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: these past past month, they've had one of the best defenses.
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: And also being able to add Aaron Gordon back. He's
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: such a crucial part to what they do. A healthy
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: Aaron Gordon and then also bringing in Peyton Watson aka
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: Peyton Swatson, being able to have him on the court
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: and see what he's done. I think that those are
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: truly two defensive, uh difference makers when you put them
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: on the court. So, and I just I just believe
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: in Nicole Kice that much. And yeah, I know I
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: argue like about him all the time with our friends
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: and stuff, but I just believe in him that much
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: that he can literally will a team to the finals
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: if he had to, and I'm taking him, taking him
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: over both the Spurs and the Timberwolves.
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: I just think the Timberwolves, it's just I know, I know,
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: it's rare for a team to say, oh, they could
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: kick it up another gear into the postseason.
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: No, I truly I know that timber Wolves no more.
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: After they did it last year and they did it
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: the year before. They literally don't.
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: Care a lot.
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: They don't care in the regular season. In the playoffs
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: come and they turn it up. Julius Randall has been
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: playing like he's been playing really well this season, and
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: then if he's able to get into that mode where
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: he was last season in the playoffs, it's just before
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: the OKC series, it's.
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: Just yea dominating.
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and yeah, I'm gonna put them above the Spurs.
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: And I don't remember the exact stat. I saw it
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: on Jason Timp's pod. It was like Minnesota they have
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: the second best point differential against top ten teams overall
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: record in the NBA, but against the bottom ten, they.
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: Has the best record against top ten teams, just the
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: Spur record.
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: Easiest, easiest schedule, Easiest schedule to open up the season, easiest.
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: But all right, what else in the Western Conference you
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: want to talk about? Y'all want to talk about seven
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: through ten? Or y'all just want to get straight to
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: the East. Wait, would you want.
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: To talk about I think they're gonna because you're breaking up.
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: I couldn't hear you right there.
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: I like the Sun's going into the playoffs. I guess well,
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: I don't know how Dylan Brooks will come back.
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: Honestly, the Clippers, they'll probably jump the Warriors.
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: Clippers are gonna be I think so Phoenix is gonna
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: jump Dever. I mean, hey, that would be that would
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: be something that would be.
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: Denver and eight seed plane in.
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: The Phoenix Phoenix, l A and Houston.
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: Both.
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: Dude, that would that would be funny. That would be
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: something funny.
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: In the Minnesota Timberwolves.
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: You know what, Yeah, I'd rather talk about the seven
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: through ten for the Eastern Conference, my Hornets, baby, I
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: don't even like the Hornets.
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: I barely talk about the seven in the Eastern Conference
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: at all.
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: You know who's not in the seven through ten for
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: the first time?
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: And like, don't say it forever, I don't know it.
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: Just don't you don't Memphis, Memphis.
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: Bro, they finally are out of the plane.
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: Saga.
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: Bro, the dogs are low key disappointed.
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: I hit him Charletts snatched our chain. Bro. It was
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: the infamous Atlanta Philly My.
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: Hashag shout out Luke Cornett for canceling Magic City Monday.
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: He was a big you get for that, said by himself.
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: Literally went on his blog and was like, nah, we
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: need to expect this is not it. Don't do this
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: to women. That ain't right. They got good wings.
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: Allegedly allegedly, but let's get to the Eastern Conference right here.
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: So this one it looked like it was runaway with
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: the Detroit Pistons.
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: Give me, give me, I got an argument. No, no,
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: I love the Celtics as much as anyone, Like I love.
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: I don't think you do what you're about to say
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: you're about to say.
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: I don't think whatever it starts off with, I love,
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: but no you don't.
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: I just let's here, like, literally what you're saying right there,
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: what you're saying about the Timberwolves, Fonso is literally like
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: it's literally what the Knicks also can bring to the table.
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: The Knicks like, all right, you've literally sent me a
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: bit a podcast. Over what are you talking about?
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: Let's hear it. Let's hear it.
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: I want to hear it.
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: I listen to the podcast. I'm not gonna lie, but
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: this is from my own We've literally been able to
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: see Jalen Brunson go into the playoffs and dominate do
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: what he does. We haven't seen that from Pistons. And yes,
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: we've seen that from the Celtics, but I just don't
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: think that with this roster they have right now. Yes,
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: they have Jason Tatum coming back, and they have the
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: breakout of the Maze Kita, and they have.
• 41:40
  Speaker 3: Jordan An NBA coming back.
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, I agree. I've literally said he's the best
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: American in the league, but I just over it. Yes,
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: I think he's he's the best player over He's.
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: I'm just wanting to rage bit right there, knock all it.
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: So I think like this is the top by Jason
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: Tatum that we know, Like he's coming back off the
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: Achilles injury and he's gonna have to adapt. And yeah,
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: he looked, he looked good, but I just.
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: You know, his nickname, the anomaly, the Green.
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: But I just think that the Knicks are gonna it's
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: either between For me, it's between the Knicks and the Calves.
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: What the Knicks were able to do by bringing in
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: Jose Alvarado and just having like.
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: Baylor Sharman punched that fool in the mouth.
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: By like, I just think their offense is so good,
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: and yes, Cat will have his off nights and things
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: of that sort, but being able to go into the
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: playoffs and they prove that they can do this. Their
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: kryptonite was has been the Pacers and guessers not in
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: the playoffs. The Pacers they beat the Celtics last year,
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: so why won't they be able to do it again
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: with the addition of Jose Alvarado And for the Calves
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: being able able to bring in that point guard James
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: Harden to, like I've said earlier, revert Donovan Mitchell off
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: to the shooting guard role, who I think is just
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: like a lesser version of Ant, like like they're the
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: same mold, but he's just like a lesser, shorter version,
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: like explosive, good shooter type, you know, uh, pretty good defender.
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: He's an all right defender, but yeah, just being able
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: to revert back to that role and bring in Kean Ellis,
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: who's one of the best guard defenders in the league.
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: I think he has the most. No, it's Derek White,
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: but it was since he got traded to the Cavs
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: he had like a certain amount of blocks and steels
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: for guard or something like that, like the most in
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: the league from when he got traded and then also
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: bringing in Dennis Shred off the bench. He's one of
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: He's so underrated and he gets made fun of for
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: like having the rainbow collection of his jerseys, being German, yeah,
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: being German, having a hairline of doom like, but he's
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: one of the most underrated players. I feel like, like
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: literally straight what do.
• 44:14
  Speaker 4: Like people people disregarded, but he's a good NBA player,
• 44:18
  Speaker 4: Like people need to be a good backup point guard
• 44:21
  Speaker 4: and that's literally what he is.
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: And we saw that with the Pistons last year. And
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: I just think that the Cavs like bringing I think
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: James Harden is the X factor and being able to
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: help Evan Mobley grow as well as Jared Allen. Jared
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: Allen's been crazy, bro. He was doing like in and
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: outs sham gods with Harden in the lineup, Like, come on,
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: I just think that this Celtics team isn't ready, Like, yes,
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: they brought back Jason Tatum, the best American in the league,
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: but bro off a torn achilles in ten months, Like, yes,
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: he looks good in all this, but I just don't
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: think not this year. Like and I love the Celtics,
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: but I'm just I'm not picking the Celtics this year
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: to make it out because I know, you know, Boston is.
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: The the number one, clear cut favorite for me to
• 45:17
  Speaker 3: absolutely make it out of the Eastern Conference. Because all
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: those people that were saying that Jason Tatum is gonna
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: take away from Jalen Brown doing all these great things,
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: he's gonna slow down all these other role players away
• 45:34
  Speaker 3: from what they've been able to say that, by the way,
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: but guess what they This guy can guard one through five.
• 45:42
  Speaker 3: He can guard one through five, and also he just
• 45:47
  Speaker 3: happens to be able to drop thirty nine in a
• 45:49
  Speaker 3: night out while also getting six assists.
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: Jason Tatum believer.
• 45:58
  Speaker 3: Bro I'm a job a year.
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: Everybody, listen, just scroll back on Spotify whatever you listen to,
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: scroll back a while.
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: Would hate no reason.
• 46:11
  Speaker 3: He was literally hating on him for no reason.
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: Now to every other, well, we gotta have a Jason
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: Tatum hater. We gotta have one on the pod.
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: I'm not a hater.
• 46:18
  Speaker 3: I just said, Oh but oh Cleveland, he just whopped.
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: They just whooped him in their first game back.
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: They Tatum is gonna be in a playoff environment with
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: uh scared? I know he's scared on his achilles? He
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: was crying.
• 46:34
  Speaker 3: Is he he like dunk? He he went for two
• 46:37
  Speaker 3: alley oops in one game, and yam, did you see.
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: How he landed his ankle?
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: Literally the first six shots were rough for him?
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: What about the last nine shots?
• 46:48
  Speaker 3: What about the last nine shots after?
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: Don't Jason Tatum hater?
• 46:51
  Speaker 3: And the rebounds and the seven sound like one when you're.
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: Out here? Love ever? Ever, I don't want to hear
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: love from Jayson Tatum. You were the biggest hater. It
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: was worse than Brock.
• 47:07
  Speaker 3: Okay, well, just like your Western Conference takes your Eastern
• 47:10
  Speaker 3: Conference takes no.
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: No.
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: He said some crazy stuff about Brock. Pretty no. You
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: know who it was before this is back in the vault,
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: but Zion, Zion. Nobody, nobody taught Zion hate from Josh
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: bro This dude was.
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: Like the Jason Tatum ultraum. They all like him.
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: You know why he changed his mind, and I know
• 47:38
  Speaker 2: exactly what it is why he changed his mind because
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: he hated him, and people said, Jason Tatum is the
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: Tim Duncan the modern day team. Remember that.
• 47:46
  Speaker 3: After that, serious questions, Who's who's better all time? Jason Tatum?
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: Are looking don chic Jason Tatum?
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: Tatum? Yeah, that's crazy, that's crazy, that's not crazy. Is
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: it way better to fender and guard?
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: Because better whenever? Like you're just looking like outside in
• 48:04
  Speaker 2: like you're just like you just look at the players
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: over Luca.
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: If I'm starting to franchise, give me Tatum.
• 48:09
  Speaker 3: I am not taking Tatum over looking.
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: You're building a team. You could you could draft defensive
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: specimens around around.
• 48:19
  Speaker 4: You can draft, you can draft anyone around data and
• 48:22
  Speaker 4: make it work.
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: I think he could take He could take a playoff
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: team like he's done it several times. He did it
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: to Minnesota, he did it to Phoenix.
• 48:35
  Speaker 3: Is better all time? Yeah, better than Tracy McGrady all time,
• 48:40
  Speaker 3: Better than Tracy McGrady.
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: How high can maybe?
• 48:44
  Speaker 3: Okay, how high? How high is Jayson Tatum all time?
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: He's not better than Shaye that much.
• 48:48
  Speaker 3: He might better, he is, He's better than Shaye all time.
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: Also, no, he's not one m v P in finals.
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: Who has the most career Jason Tatum Hill.
• 49:14
  Speaker 3: It is Grant Hill was was the answer.
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: Tatum was expected to be good. S g A wasn't.
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: They took a flyer and s g A traded him.
• 49:26
  Speaker 3: Exactly because he was not as good as Jason Tatum.
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: Well now he's no, I'm just kidding.
• 49:32
  Speaker 3: He's not better. Okay, Okay, seriously, seriously, let's just just
• 49:39
  Speaker 3: take Ryan's opinion out of this and let's just talk
• 49:41
  Speaker 3: about real ball right now.
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: Okay, this, let's take the Jason.
• 49:48
  Speaker 3: And then actually acknowledge him for the good player that
• 49:50
  Speaker 3: he is. Okay, So I like Bro.
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: Y'all know how much I like When I was younger, Bro,
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: I know literally have to sell us bakes on my phone.
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: I still got him on when I was younger because
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: I like Jason Jaylen Brown and I got the Calves.
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: You gotta like.
• 50:12
  Speaker 3: Brown don't even have a Duce poster in his room, Bro,
• 50:15
  Speaker 3: And he's saying that he's like a Jason Tatum fan.
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: Every hanging on my bulletin board, it's a picture, it's a.
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: You have Aduce poster.
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: It's on my bulletin board, and I'm like, I just
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: like pet the picture because it's my dog. Shout out
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: Millie Man, shout out, Shout out Finnick, shout out her.
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: Dog, Bruno. He tore up some remotes again today, so.
• 50:46
  Speaker 3: He broke a step mom's ankle.
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: Don't break back up mill a razor today, tore up
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: a razor. Bop another razor. She's still alive. I don't know.
• 51:01
  Speaker 3: Bennett got chopped at the barbershop today though.
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: Shout out Phoenick Man. We need to all have a
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: dog date with our with our kids.
• 51:11
  Speaker 3: Date, taking Finnick around Bruno.
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: Bro. Yeah what you mean you, Josh, We're not taking's.
• 51:20
  Speaker 3: Bad little dog bro.
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: Nah.
• 51:23
  Speaker 3: Okay, But seriously, Boston is the favorite because they actually
• 51:26
  Speaker 3: destroyed Cleveland, shut down their entire.
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: I can understand this take.
• 51:30
  Speaker 3: I understand where you cut down their entire offense. And
• 51:33
  Speaker 3: Jason Tatum guards one through five and they're doing this
• 51:37
  Speaker 3: without Vosovich right now, and that's a big deal because
• 51:40
  Speaker 3: he's generates another another three point shooter and instant offense
• 51:45
  Speaker 3: if he doesn't need to be a great defender, because
• 51:47
  Speaker 3: you know why, who was there?
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: Jason Tatum Basketball teams.
• 51:55
  Speaker 3: Is better than exactly just make the point more, just
• 51:58
  Speaker 3: make the point.
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: We're good. He goes here, Heydus is here. I saw
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: TikTok Hey, Trey Hendrickson. We're good. Sam Williams is here.
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: We're good. We're good.
• 52:16
  Speaker 3: I'm right there with Jo Troit and then Detroit trash there.
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Bro getting before the Spurs. I just like the
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: Spurs calls that. But I've been saying, like, if you
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: no one outside of kid can score. They don't have
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: three point shooters. Malik Beasley wanted to gamble and so
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: be it. Literally, he's not in the.
• 52:39
  Speaker 3: Gamble and Larsa Pippin that's all he wanted to do.
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: Bro and Duncan Robinson is their best shooter, but he's
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: not even He's not consistent enough.
• 52:48
  Speaker 2: I feel like the offensive player if you have.
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: Dannis Jenkins, but he's been playing really bad right now.
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: Honestly, that's not bad he's.
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: Been playing for but Harris playing really well besides the Spurs.
• 53:08
  Speaker 3: Due they put him in foul trouble fast, Bro, they
• 53:11
  Speaker 3: put him in foul trouble fast.
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: No, for real, I think this is the first time
• 53:16
  Speaker 2: we've had like an overrated one seed in the NBA. No, well,
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: what's the other one?
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: I was gonna say the Thunder, but like that year
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: they got bounced.
• 53:29
  Speaker 3: They were overrated. They were just.
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: Us solve the MAVs and you could go back to
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: the Hawks with four all stars, but they made the
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: conference finals because.
• 53:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Bro, I don't know, Bro, Jeff.
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: Get out of the second round?
• 53:48
  Speaker 3: Who was it? Jeff T Paul depends on who the.
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: Stars because the bottom is so like literally the bottom
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: of the Eastern Conference just funnels wins. There's like take
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: a win, take a win, take a win, take away.
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: They're literally all tanky like. So okay, so Hornets and
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: Pistons do the Hornets?
• 54:12
  Speaker 3: Does Detroit beat the Hornets in round one?
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna say yes, but it's close. It's close. I'm
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: not gonna lie.
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: He literally has no defense at all.
• 54:23
  Speaker 3: Jen Duran, you know, the.
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: And Myles Bridges have been one of the best defenses
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: during the stretch.
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: Con con Con.
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: Is a good defender.
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: Brocade.
• 54:42
  Speaker 3: He conly He's not step On Castle. He's not Stephan Castle.
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: But you know, like so crazy.
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: Castle ain't no con.
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: He's not like you can't say, Kobe White, what am
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: I talking about Kobe White. You know what, They're close.
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: It's closer than you think. Like, yes, they the Pistons
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: beat them, but I just think that the Hornets are
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: like they're a team you do not want to see
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: because their offense is so good.
• 55:13
  Speaker 3: I don't think they beat uh Boston, New York or
• 55:15
  Speaker 3: Cleveland in a seven game series.
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: No, I don't think they either. But I'm saying, like, you, like,
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: is it.
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: Over hooping lately?
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: He's like, oh, they're so like coming into the high
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: we ranked them like we made the top three, bro,
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: because we're like, all the East is wide open, and
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: we really thought this Desmond Bane move would take him
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: over the top. And maybe Paulo's been hooping, but like
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: he's literally peb no j Like.
• 55:48
  Speaker 3: He's literally he's literally the worst first of all draft
• 55:51
  Speaker 3: pick of the last ten years.
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: He's not.
• 55:55
  Speaker 3: Yes he is, bro, Hey, he's been hooping.
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's been hooping recently. But they got to find
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: a way, and I think they can because we see
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: it with the Jays. I'm referring to Jason Tatum Jaleen
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: Brown brother. Well there's two forwards to be able to
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: like play with each other. But I just I don't know,
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: and I'm not comparing. I'm not comparing Paulo and Franz
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: to be I think so too. To Nick's tith again
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: because at the beginning of the season, when Paula was out,
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: they had a better they had like better on off
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: numbers and stuff like like they played better.
• 56:41
  Speaker 2: No, no, no, Paulo over Jadab. No, not no more.
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: I try to convince you guys. I try to convince
• 56:49
  Speaker 2: you guys during June. No, well, Josh, I don't know
• 56:51
  Speaker 2: about you.
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: Ryan, I don't know if Jadab coming off the finals.
• 56:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they're both made so but I'm taking Jadab over him.
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: Bro talks about Jadob's did like he was last part
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: I heard it and he was like, Jadob only only
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: does it in the playoffs. Do you not want someone
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: who only does it in the playoffs?
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: You exactly?
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: Like that's like Jimmy Butler, Like, yes, Jimmy Butler.
• 57:16
  Speaker 3: I don't want Jimmy Butler on my basketball team.
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: I don't want Jimmy Butler on my basketball team.
• 57:20
  Speaker 3: We did he to, you know, they have to. He
• 57:24
  Speaker 3: wants to struggle so bad in the playoffs, like he
• 57:27
  Speaker 3: wants to go through the play in every single year
• 57:29
  Speaker 3: because he plays.
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: J Williams doesn't have to do that, well, Jayleen Williams
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: doesn't have to do that.
• 57:34
  Speaker 4: Because he and he and he rises in the player
• 57:40
  Speaker 4: Like why do you not want a player who rises
• 57:41
  Speaker 4: in the playoffs?
• 57:42
  Speaker 3: And this year we'll see this year when Kevin Johnson
• 57:45
  Speaker 3: locks that body up, boy literally shut him.
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: Down, won the finals with the broken wrist he did.
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: Broken wrists dropping forty in the finals ain't no freaking thing.
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: They would have won regardless. Jadab is one of the
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: best defenders in the league. He's underrated in the underrated defender.
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: He's better than killed and John I'll take Stephan Castle,
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: I take Steph over him.
• 58:11
  Speaker 3: I'll take Door over him in defense. No, I'll take
• 58:16
  Speaker 3: Steph easily over him, and defense easily.
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: Steph Curry. Yeah, there's no way we're calling There's no
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: way we're calling Stephan Castle, Steph. We got to call
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: him someone, Steph.
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: What are you talking about?
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: That's disrespectful to Stephen Curry, Steph bro We can't be
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: calling LaMelo ball mellow he.
• 58:35
  Speaker 3: Was calling I know, I know Ryan right in high school. No,
• 58:40
  Speaker 3: LaMelo mellow.
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: Mello. No, I never like LaMelo too. Now not gonna
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: lie bb B.
• 58:49
  Speaker 3: He said the other day, I wanted.
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: We were all there. Yeah, I literally was saying.
• 58:59
  Speaker 3: Stole the stole the jewelry.
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: No, I haven't liked the NBA tail now and I
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: didn't like Brandon Miller. Tell now because of Conn, it's
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: pretty good Brandon Miller, Yeah, I didn't like. I just
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: think his shot, his shot volume could go down a
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: little bit, like, let's let's cut that down a little
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: bit more.
• 59:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, I think.
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: Shot tendency up on two came I right.
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, real boosted up the six all the way up
• 59:24
  Speaker 2: to eighty.
• 59:24
  Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, La mellow gets hurt. It's high possibility. History
• 59:30
  Speaker 3: you know says it's high.
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: You got the goat run in the back court, right,
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: are we good?
• 59:37
  Speaker 3: We're good?
• 59:38
  Speaker 2: Do you got Conn and Kobe? Bro?
• 59:40
  Speaker 3: What if the Hornets are the team to make the
• 59:41
  Speaker 3: finals this year?
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: That is so high, Bronf've seen it, but enjoyed basket
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: would never allow the Hornets to make the NBA finals, Bro, Rick.
• 59:54
  Speaker 3: When we're dead the Hornets, the Hornet The Hornets have
• 59:57
  Speaker 3: never been to a finals?
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: Bro, how hard they give the Lonzo Morning.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 2: And Larry Johnson maybe like the second round at most.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: Probably they're gonna be scary, is all?
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah? They were, they weren't. They weren't beating the Pacers, Knicks,
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 3: or Bulls.
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 2: No, all right, No, let's talk about the top four
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 2: teams instead of the Charlotte Warnets. Right here, we're talking
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 2: about the Celtics. So okay, we'll talk.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 3: About the top four teams in the Eastern Conference.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: Let's rank about them.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 2: Let's rank the top four, rank them.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 3: Hold on, let me go back real quick, because I'm
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 3: going number one, number one.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 2: I'm going New York, Cleveland, Detroit, That's what I'm going.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 3: Number one, Boston, two New York, three Cleveland, and four Charlotte.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: I'm going Charlotte through two. All right, I'm going one.
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: I'm going Cleveland because I too, Nick.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 2: Cleveland one. You were just talking about the Knicks.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah, bro, the whole time about who did I choose?
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: Last time we chose we did the Josh, I chose Calves.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but you sold the Knicks to us like a
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 3: second Timberwolves, and you had the Timberwolves second at the
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 3: third or third in the other I just first over here,
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 3: basically first in the Easter.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: He isn't winning, so I don't care who's coming out
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: the East, honestly, but.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 3: I think Boston could win.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: They won't. Again, No, they're not winning against any Western team.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 3: No, I meant East like I'm not gonna be talking
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 3: ahead So I'm not going to talk ahead of time
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 3: because we play them tomorrow night. But we'll see.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 2: Let's see it. That's gonna be.
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 3: If you'll lose too.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: By the way, well we didn't without Jade, iHeart Chat
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: and Crusoe.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I better I heeart back before they run into Wimby.
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 3: That's all I'm saying. So you can get they will.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 2: They will.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: Wimby's gonna be crying because he's gonna lose, not because
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: he's exhausted. I saw a thing today this off topic,
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: but it was like it was Pat Bev and he
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: was like, how come when I'm yelling and screaming for
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: playing the games because you're playing in the game, like
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: y'all make fun of me. But when Wimby's over here
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: crying because of a back to back game, it's it's
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: like he loves the game, Like what's up with that?
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 2: Because he didn't jump off the because he didn't use
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: you know what because he covered his face and like
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 2: he didn't want to know what.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 3: Also, he's he's the face.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: Post from my boy Pat Bev, one of the best
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: defenders of our generation. Even though he got he got
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: barbecue leg by James Harden.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 2: It don't matter that was thirty. I still remember that
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 2: him and Paul George.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: My top four starts with the Cavs, next Celtics and
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: give me the.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 3: I genuinely have the Hornets fourth, like I genuinely have them.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: For I'll put the Hornets for two.
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 2: Actually, okay, okay, how do you have the Cavs? Let
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 2: me just hear your explanation on the Cavs them being
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 2: number one, cause you you talked about the Pics, you
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 2: talked about the Knicks, Pistons, you talked about everybody.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 3: But I can tell you why. I can tell you
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 3: why I don't have the Knicks one.
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: Do you tell you why I have? No?
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 3: No? No. Karl Anthony Towns, like his foul trouble is
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 3: like absurd bro like I and like especially in the playoffs,
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 3: they're gonna target that like and know I know like
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 3: he can take off. And also late as of late,
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 3: he's been like not creating his offense at all, Like he.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: Has better better, he's been getting better.
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 3: But like there's been a couple of games where he
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 3: only took five shots and missed every single one of them,
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 3: like or like he just doesn't like like he's he's
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 3: being too passive, you know, and no, you're kar Anthony Towns,
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 3: go score a bucket, dude. And then also like I.
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: Do feel that sometimes he's just toole.
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 3: The foul trouble can become a problem also, So honestly
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 3: with the Knicks, I think the biggest problem is that
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 3: just without how their.
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 2: Philosophy is, is that whenever you have Josh Hart on
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 2: the court, you could put a big on them and
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 2: you put a smaller guy onto Cat. So what does
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 2: that do That funnels seventeen shots to Ojiananobi twenty to
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 2: them with cal bridges crazy threes a game. So it
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 2: makes Cat less aggressive, and so then you ask him
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 2: be aggressive when he's used to just kicking the ball out,
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 2: it's not gonna happen. Not to mention, Jalen Brunston and
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 2: Cat are terrible at defense. So I think that's the
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 2: biggest thing right there. And Mike Brown, I don't know
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 2: if you saw Josh Harden Cat what they said like
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 2: three days ago, trying to We're still trying to figure
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 2: out the offense. What do you mean it's March.
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: What are we talking? Come on, bro, I believe. But
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: the reason why I have the Cats first is I
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: I've I talked about this last time with Josh. I
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: think these trade as, these act positions at the deadline
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: are so huge. James hard it's.
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 3: Literally in the playoffs. Do you trust James Harden in
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 3: the playoffs right now?
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 1: Yes, he's not the primary option.
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 3: He's the primary ball handler, but.
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: He's not the primary option. He's third. Fourth, You can
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: even argue fourth.
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 3: No, he's Mitchell's not No, it's Mitchell, it's Spider.
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: And then it's Mobley. It's for sure Mobley over him.
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: And then we can argue Jared Allen.
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 2: You gave the same guy twice.
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: Mobley, and we can argue Jared Allens.
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 3: Jared, Jared Allen's a product of James Harden.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: Okay, But I do trust James Harden if he's not
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: being Yes, he'll be relied on, but not so heavy
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: where Donovan Mitchell can take the workload with Devin Mobley.
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't care what happened last year.
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 2: I mean I think that as a second option because
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 2: we've seen some flag his word him on the Sixers
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 2: World he dropped forty.
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 3: I don't know, like based off what.
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 2: I've he dropped thirty multiple times. So I get that
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 2: as far as him being a second option, they had
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 2: under has with him.
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 3: Like like he has to have big games for them
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 3: to move on, like he he himself has to drop
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 3: like twenty, like like twenty two a night, twenty a
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 3: night for them to move on. I do think because.
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: There's too much for him fifteen fifteen.
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 3: No, I don't know. I think the problem is that
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 3: Spider in these last two years has been to a
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 3: point where he's literally taken every shot in the fourth quarter.
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: I don't got a buzz cut boy.
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 2: I know, I know the guy.
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 3: I know the guy that that ordered broccoli with his
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 3: burger ain't talking.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: And heyll go put on your flannel and shut up.
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 2: It's a flat over at himself.
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: But also having Evan Mobley and Jared Allen as defensive
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: anchors is a big part of this team. And Kenny
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: Atkinson is a good coach. We've seen what he's done
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 1: and Also, like I've said that Kean Ellison, didn't Shooter
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: being able to have ke allis not so much, but
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: just bringing that physicality into the playoffs, and didn't Shuter
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: being able to play in these playoffs and have playoffs
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: like know what it's like. I just think that they're
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: better than the Knicks in my opinion. And then also
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: I just I just don't think the Celtics make it
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: this year.
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 2: I mean, well, because you're a Jason Tatum hater. I mean,
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 2: you can't put your like hatred aside. I could hear
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 2: it in your voice, Like I could just hear you
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 2: just saying the word Jason Tatum. It just bothers you.
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 2: I could hear it.
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 3: No, but facts, I've never seen anyone hate Jayson Tatum
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 3: as much as you do.
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 2: But I just think Boston not only are they the
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 2: most well coached team in the NBA, but just as
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 2: far as their system they are You're right, and with
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 2: their system even without they're.
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: The longest tenure. Isn't he the longest ten.
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 2: Yes, he's the longest tended coach.
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 3: Bro Free Billy bro Once Billy goes to free by
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 3: free billion bro No, No, what's Billy Donovan. What's he
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 3: supposed to do playing with like a bunch of washed
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 3: up veterans and like seventeen point guards. Bro, Like, what
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 3: is Billy supposed to do?
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: He's never done nothing in his career.
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he's been stuck in Chicago.
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 1: He's Thunder.
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 3: Russian set up the future. He just set up the future.
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. Jackson MVP under his belt, Bro, Mark Jackson.
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 3: Put Billy in Portland. Bro put Billy in Portland.
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: Brog splitters coaching Portland.
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 3: That's the only reason I didn't like that. I said
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 3: that honestly because to go, well, where else would Billy go? Sacramento, Bro, Broke,
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 3: They wouldn't.
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: Zach Lavine bron package for the rest of their careers.
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 2: It's a package still, Bro.
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 3: I guarantee you if Billy was on the Thunder right now,
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 3: Mark Diagnaught will still be his like third assistant right now. Bro,
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 3: Billy wasn't. Okay, see right, He's a dog. He would
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 3: he would have stayed. He would have stayed in the
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 3: G League. Bro, he would have stayed in the G
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 3: League and Billy was over.
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 2: There, just like I'm not gonna say, just not our
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 2: head coach.
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 3: No, genuinely put Billy and in Atlanta, Bro Bill in Atlanta,
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 3: Bro put him in Brooklyn. No, give him igor, Bro.
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 1: Billy Fernandez like that, Bro, Jordy Fernandez.
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 3: A good Billy Igor. Bro give Billy igor and watch.
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: What you was only like that because of Jordy Fernandez.
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 1: Jordy Fernandez makes him shoot the ball.
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, he gets mad at Billy would turn him
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 3: into prime Stephan Curry.
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: By the way, Bro, Jordan's turned him into prime Stephan Curry.
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 1: He's shooting like forty plus from the three.
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 2: See whatever say steph Curry. You say Stephan Curry the real.
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 3: Stately Billy is not getting another job. Guys. Billy is
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 3: not getting another job. He is not getting another.
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: He's not.
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 2: He keeps brocause guys get another job, guys, Billy Billy's
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 2: going back to college.
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 1: Bro.
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  Speaker 3: Billy's going back to the shout shout out, shut up,
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 3: shut out the baby daddy Billy Donovan.
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 2: Shout out that does not know Jim Boyling, Bro not
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 2: know Jim Jim Boyling's not don ain't done.
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 3: Much, Bro, Billy Donovan's done one thing. Coach mediocre basketball teams.
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 2: He sure has.
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 1: That's Billy Donovan catching straight for We're sorry, Billy.
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 3: No, No, you're the one sitting straights. I'm saying the
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 3: front office is gave him mediocre teams. That's the context.
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 1: Who are the owners? I know, Kenny Kenny beacham my
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 1: guy shout out. He's just a no I know, but
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 1: he always talks about the owners.
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 2: I'm saying, the owners, Oh, they're like a family.
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 3: You know what they needed to bring back that jam
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 3: that was taking all the money and giving it to Jordan's.
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 3: They bring back that Jim Jerry Krouse, Jerry Jerry Krouse.
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 2: Dude, honestly, we need to bring him back.
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 1: We don't they need that one coach who did the
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 1: rule pat Riley shut.
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 3: Out Willis Bro. The bulls need Chauncey.
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 1: He'll gamble on them, no pun intended.
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 3: Ah.
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 2: All right, well I think that's pretty much everything for
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 2: this episode right here? Is there anything else you guys
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 2: want to talk about?
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: Talking about how how Josh disrespected Jay will You called
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 1: Jay will Mid You're like, he's trash and.
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 3: Everything, the biggest motivator. Bro.
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 1: People listening before you even said that he was good before.
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 2: You Jayalen Williams hooping like this before Josh said anything,
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 2: just saying.
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's been hooping like this. He's literally the offensive hub.
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 1: He'll do this. You know it's crazy.
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 3: You know what he did. He went and won the
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 3: NBA Championship. That's what he did. Okay, ok look at
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 3: him now, he's got to see him. I like the Cowboys.
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 3: I can't hit on the Cowboys start hating Hat where
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 3: I started hitting on Zion. Look at him, he's played
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 3: thirty one straight games.
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 1: Like what Like I hated the Hornets, what happened?
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 2: And then you Jason Tatum. Look what they're about to do.
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 1: I hate you, Jason Tatum.
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 3: I hated Chet and he still sucks.
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 1: But I can that's better than when you get up
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 1: my face. Boy.
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, bro, he.
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 1: Go Gonzales has like point seven less of a like
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 1: shout out to hugand rating.
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 3: If you could take one team, if you can take
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 3: one player from any team, and it can't be like
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 3: a star player, like it has to be like a
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 3: role player and put him on and put him on
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 3: your favorite Do you know he's my favorite role player?
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 3: Andrew nap Hark Andrew favorite, bro.
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 2: I was look here, I was looky thinking b I mean,
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 2: Darren Fox is the leading scorer on the Spurs.
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 1: So f Fonso Jalen sucks.
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 2: Too, bron't need another.
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 3: Bron. I was oky thinking like O g Or or
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 3: Aaron Gordon.
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, bro fill that forward position. Like I'm just saying.
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 1: I would say I love Andrew Nimpard, but that's a
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 1: that's a silly guess. I'd say, I.
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 2: Don't even know which role player to take. BRO.
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 1: Take Andrew Nimhard, Bro, he solves every problem.
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 2: Give me Bro, Give me George.
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 1: He's not a role player. Give me Luke Cornett.
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 2: No, no, size you guys don't want any Bulls players.
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 3: No, no, no, I take you that everything.
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah no, Vaccine doesnt as a star player.
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 3: No, yeah, he's a star player. No one knows. You
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 3: don't even have Vaccine first team All rookie bro.
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 1: I don't Cedric Coward, Conkin Nipple, he's a both Sedric Coward.
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 1: No he's not maybe because of beams is he's not coward.
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 3: I don't make the rules.
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 2: I just enforced the games rookies. Or it shouldn't.
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 3: Probably does, Yeah, it does, it does.
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 1: Connip Cooper, Flag, Dylan Harper, Cedric Coward and I didn't
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 1: put Ryan Nimhard over him.
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 3: Dang. Maxine's averaging sixteen and ten right now over the
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 3: last ten games.
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 1: Put anyone on the Kings and they have.
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 3: Twenty six points, twenty six dud, dude, he was, he was,
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 3: he was, he was like prime Shock versus the Chicago Bulls. Bro,
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 3: twenty six points, eleven rebounds.
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 1: Who's their sinner.
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 3: Versus Lake?
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 1: I think Hugo Gonzales over Maxine.
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 2: No, you wouldn't, Bro, Yes, I would shout out to
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 2: a boy, Hugo.
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 1: He's a better defender.
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 3: You're probably taking Johnny Broom over over Hugo.
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 1: Huh, jan I Broom now because he's not being sure
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 1: what happened?
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 3: What happened? What happened to the Sixers?
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 1: Bro? What happened Joe and beating?
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah? Ben Simmons, what happened to Ben Simmons?
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 1: Then he's a fisher.
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 3: He is a fisher who was part of their big three?
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 3: Who was part of that big three?
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 2: Ben Old, Tobias Harris and.
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, was Harden not on that team?
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 2: No, not yet it Nah, dude, that was well, I'm
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 2: not gonna consider Tobia his hair as a big four.
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 3: I mean.
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 2: He's underrated, But Jimmy Butler, who's.
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 1: The most generated player of our generation?
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 2: Would you say Kobe White, Wimby?
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 1: No tro tro either should we do of our generation
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 1: or all the time?
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 3: Most overrated is definitely on Iverson for sure.
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 1: We already talked about I'm not going over this. The
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 1: most underrated go.
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 3: You know, it's crazy. He can never get better after
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 3: I hate on him. It's crazy.
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 1: I'll know you're hating on him and he's like doing
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 1: these like bro.
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 2: Taking over the world right now, Bro? What are you
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 2: talking about? Taking over the world? Bro?
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 1: I heard something say the most underrated was like Damian Lillard.
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 3: What himself did that to himself?
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 2: Dwight Howard, m Blake Griffin.
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 3: Mmm, that's just I feel like that's just trying to
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 3: be too different right there.
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 1: But I'm trying to think of like a really good player.
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 1: Do people talk about Bill Walton enough?
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 3: Greg Monroe?
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 2: I think the first time we ever mentioned Bill Walton
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 2: on this pot where we get niche was today.
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 1: Hga's the most underrated player, underappreciated player.
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 2: Well, Jason Tatum's the most underappreciated player under Ryan's book
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 2: because he hates on him so much.
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 1: He has underappreciated it. He got hurt, and now everyone
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 1: loves him except you.
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 3: Stonewall wants to be Josh giddy, but when we were
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 3: playing a small ball team, he didn't want to be
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 3: Josh Giddy. No, I don't want to be giddy.
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 1: I don't want to. Hey, shout out you Stoner for
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 1: hitting that game winning shot. Damion thinks he's better than
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 1: all of us. He was genuinely like going hot in
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 1: I'm better, I'm better. No, Stonewall played better than you,
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 1: little bro. Alright, you're welcome man, all right?
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 2: Anything else, anything else.
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 3: He's the most underrated player of our generation.
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 2: That's a crank underrated nors Cole.
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 3: No, right there, it's gotta be a Maximm.
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 2: Most underrated player in our generation.
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 1: I feel like Jimmy Butler's Bro.
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 3: They don't even sell my boys jerseys. Bro, that's the
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 3: crazy part.
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 1: Jimmy Butler has no overrated Right. Yes, y'all think Jimmy
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 1: Butler is a good one.
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 3: No, I feel like I feel like he's just I
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 3: think he's perfectly rated.
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 1: Bro.
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 3: Like he's like I'm saying he's not a good regular
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 3: season player, Like he.
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 1: Don't know that, but like I think if you rise
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 1: in the playoffs.
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 3: Like yeah, but also like, are we gonna praise being
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 3: second best all the time? That's just it, That's just
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 3: what we're doing. Now.
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 2: Hey, whoa, whoa, you're you're HEARDing our Lebron argument here.
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 3: I feel like Dirk is gonna be someone people forget
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 3: about one day.
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 1: That's a good one. Well would he be? W'd be
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 1: our generation? Y'allre just older than me, but our generation, Yeah,
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 1: y'all's generation my best probably like John Paxton for y'all.
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, what's his brother's name? What's his brother's name? Ryan
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 3: Nicholas Kerr, Jim Paxton James name is Jim Jim. His
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 3: name is Jim, the founder of Slim Jim's right here.
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 1: No, I'm gonna go buy a Slim Jim. Let's get
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 1: indoors by hit him.
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 3: Up, Slim Jim in honor of Jim Paxson, bro sign
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 3: me up.
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 1: The believer of buckets, Josh be like, say you're in
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 1: a Slim Jim and in honor of Jim Paxton, he
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 1: would o.
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 3: Post and man, should I pull my gym packs and
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 3: basketball cars right now?
• 1:21:03
  Speaker 2: You should?
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 1: So who's the most underrated.
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 2: I'm still trying to think.
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 3: This is Wall.
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 2: Guys, you know it's going to be something. O. W.
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 2: Stoner is literally stall. Dang, it looks like be underrated.
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 1: I feel like he is, to be honest, because he
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 1: who did the Mark derision just astronot.
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 3: I've ever seen one that's an astronom. I've ever seen one.
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 3: Right there, that guy orders broccoli with his burger.
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 2: He definitely orders that sweet tea for sure.
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 1: No, I think I think we can consider.
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 2: Tim Duncan most underrated player.
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 1: No, bro, he's perfectly rated. I think we can put
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 1: Demarty Rosen up there. Who did he just pass for
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 1: the Indy?
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah? He passed Steph Curry for points nine?
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's crazy.
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 2: I mean Steph's gonna pass him right back up.
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 1: Well, he's gonna pass him Duncan too. Possibly Dominique Wilkins.
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 2: Better than Tim Duncan.
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 3: Question was ordered this for for Stonewall?
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 1: Chris Paul Paul bro That's kind of like a cop
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 1: out answer, but I feel like that's real because people
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 1: think Westbrook.
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 2: I'm not going to that.
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 1: I think I think people think that Westbrook is better
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 1: than CP three. He's not.
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, some people say say Westbrook's better than CP three.
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 1: But we know there's basketball and then there's highlights. There's
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 1: a difference.
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 2: I mean, we have somebody on Saturday playing like CP three.
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 2: I don't want to give no names, but his last
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 2: name is Thompson and his first name is Breckon.
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 1: But wait, no, he wasn't playing like CP three, because
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 1: then that makes CP three bad.
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 2: You know what, Yeah, you're right? Who else he underrated guy?
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 1: Shout out to that Lebron James Guy's underrated.
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 2: That Lebron Lebron guy.
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 1: His son's in the league.
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, okay, yeah yeah.
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 3: In this podcast, we're just yapping now.
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 1: All right, thanks for listening, guys.
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 2: All right, shout out to our shout out to our
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 2: production team, camera crew, scriptwriters. Everything appreciated.
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 1: Thanks for everyone behind the scenes. Y'all. Really, y'all really
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 1: do all the hard work for us. Shout out for y'all.
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 3: This is also stone Wall.
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 1: Shout out shout out our producer JB. Rose stone Wall,
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 1: you do a great job. We just want to give
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 1: all the things human. This wouldn't be possible for him,
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 1: for you, you know, just producing all this. This a
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 1: great show. Yeah, and I just think that this week,
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 1: we should take some time to tune into some basketball
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 1: and rewire. Hey Brent Barry hashtag Stonewall Junior.
• 1:24:46
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