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Oklahoma Has The BEST DUO in College Football?| Returning Production Talk | Sooner or Later Sports (S2 E4) · Sooner or Later Sports

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  of course Chris as well as PG. Gentlemen, what's going on? Not
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  much? Not much going on? Thank y'all for pulling up with your boy.
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  Uh, you know, we Chris on it a bit. You know,
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  Chris, what's been good man? How's life treating man? Hey,
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  life is great, man. A lot of things that are happening behind the
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  scenes and all the rest of that stuff. But yeah, you know,
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  just kind of took a little bit of a mental break. You know,
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  football is technically over, but it's never really over, especially you know PG.
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  I know PG is always humming with the with the recruits and all the
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  rest of that stuff. So, uh, yeah, I'm back and I
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  think I'm about to start bumping out some more viz or whatnot y'all. If
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  that I did with Barry from By's Fitness Barry Max Show Five Reasons why Jackson
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  on It will be successful in tween twenty four. Definitely check that video out
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  quick plug. But yeah, now, hey, thanks for the invite.
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  Man, it's been too long. Yeah, I know, man, it's
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  been a bit. It's been a bit. PG. Talk to the people,
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  man, How you doing, how you being? How's everything going?
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  We just been video together yesterday. Yeah, been good. I actually am
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  not wearing the hoodie that I wanted to be wearing today, so I guess
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  I'll wait to announce that at a later date. But missing a lot of
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  your subscriber base because they ain't showing up on my channel no more. So
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  y'all got to hop over there to watch some videos. Yeah, show Peasy's
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  and loving them up, you know, PG show Man. So me,
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  it's been been crazy traveling, took some vacation time, had to decompress.
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  Luckily, it's February, so it's the It's Love month, so all you
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  know, all the bubbly love stuff is supposed to be going on Black History
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  Month and everything else is going on or whatnot. So it's been it's it's
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  dead period too. So for the players, there's not really contact, I
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  guess you could say, so you don't really see that going on for those
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  that are in recruiting, and so we're just preparing our until March. That's
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  when we'll have the next junior day. Is that that's the Freaks weekend,
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  right PG Elite Freaks. March ninth is Future Freaks, and I believe if
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  I'm right, I have to look on my calendar. I think there's one
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  on April tenth or April ninth or something like something like that. Yeah,
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  I know it's beginning of March. Beginning of April. You'll have more juniors
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  coming in since they're basically next year's class, and I'm anticipating us seeing some
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  sort of commitments coming down. But until then, ain't much to talk about
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  neck capacity. So see y'all here in the comments. What's good? Everybody
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  missed y'all. It's like I said, it's been a bit been doing,
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  you know, getting everything going. What's good, Mike, what's good?
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  Everybody glad to see you as well. Go check out sooner legends. He
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  talks a lot about some of the old school stuff, you know, show
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  them some love and support, keeps them busy, I guess you could say,
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  so that's always a plus for all of us. So anyway, had
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  a few things to dive into. The man. I want to, like
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  I said, talkball, I want to talk about me and PG talked about
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  this on his channel. You can watch the video. We kind of dive
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  into the best QB wide receiver duos in college football, but I want to
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  even break that into just duos in general. So set a wide receivers,
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  you know, and and QB wide receiver. It's kind of curious to see
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  what everybody thinks about that. And let me, I'm gonna go ahead and
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  pull this bad boy up real quick. That's not what I wanted to do,
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  but it's okay. We're not gonna get mad. Let's see. How
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  do I want to do this? All right? I'm actually organizing on this
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  side, and I want to move you there. There we go. We're
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  gonna pull that up. If everybody can see. We got that list that
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  popped up from two four seven. I thought it was interesting, right me
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  and PG, like I said, talked about it the other day. What
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  jumped out to me on this is one and see of course all college football.
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  Two. They actually got a fresh well a sophomore on here that has
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  no real starts right, no long term start, so we have a very
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  small sample size of what he's done with Jackson Arnold, and so I thought
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  this was real interesting to see. So Chris, looking at this list,
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  here's your top ten. You got quin Ears and Isaiah Bond is one.
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  You're looking at Dylan Gabriel, test Johnson at two, North Alfieda and t
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  mac at three Cameron War, Carson Beck, all the way down to Jackson.
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  On number ten. You dropped a video talking about Jackson Arnold, you
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  know the five reasons why be successful? When you see this, does this
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  sound right? I think it does. Some of it may be a little
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  bit of recency bias, some of it is built off of hype. I
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  mean, look, we've had that d G experience. We understand that those
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  those long balls. You know, you're either on this side or on that
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  side of that subject or whatnot. But I think this list is correct for
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  right now. I see I see Jackson normal and being able to uh you
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  know, honestly, it could be Nick Anderson, Gibson, issue d Burks,
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  you know, it could be th rud It could be Angel Anthony if
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  he comes back healthy. So I mean, I think he has a group
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  of guys that give him the opportunity to really advance advancing this uhh ex give
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  me advance upwards on this list. I think that the interesting thing is is
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  that now in Mecca Mecca Boogle like, I get it with that. But
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  Will Howard, I don't know. I probably probably would put the boys at
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  number nine and and start there. I think Trey Harris and Jackson dark already.
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  I mean I think they could they could arguably be higher. I think
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  Brady Cook and Luther Burden could be higher. I think Carson Beck and Dominique
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  demic Glovett could be lower simply because Rock Bowers isn't there. So now it's
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  going to be like, who the hell is really going to step up?
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  You know, it could be Evans, you know, right, I mean
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  you never know. And I think that cam Ward and uh Rastreppo is that
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  how you say his last name is, that's a solid place for them to
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  be on that list. Why because he's I think he's just like a cool
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  Beasley, those type of guys, you know, as far as just those
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  those vaunted you know, slot receivers that are just open all the time.
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  Right, So so you know, I think it's a pretty good list,
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  but definitely with Jackson normal to ask your question directly, I think it's fair
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  where they're at. I think it's uh. I think it's only going to
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  get better now. I really believe that he's going to be successful, and
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  I think that he has a group of guys that could that could propel him
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  to that next level as well, because he has a lot of talent,
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  and I mean, let's just be real, this is this is one of
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  the first years that you could legitimately come into a season and say I think
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  that we have a a a really really good wide receiver room. Not just
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  one or two guys. No, we have a really good wide receiver room.
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  Yeah, no, exactly. PG. You know, we talked about
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  this a little bit. Now that you've marinated on it from our conversation,
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  how are you feeling about this entire list? Like, what any changes in
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  opinions or thoughts when it came to seeing to set up? Oh, one
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  hundred percent. I'm even I'm moving quinn Ewers and Isaiah Bond down quite a
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  bit, mainly because I don't think quinn Ewers is as accurate as the quarterback
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  as he needs to be. And have we really seen enough from Isaiah Bond
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  to think he is one of the best the wide receivers on this list.
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  I don't think so. So again, I think I'm still rolling with DG
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  and Tess Johnson at number one, just because tes Johnson was one of the
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  best wide receivers in the country last year, and then obviously we all know
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  what Dylan can Gabriel do whenever he's healthy and got a good offensive line,
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  and I'm not worried about we're going having a bad offensive line because they have.
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  I think it's Tony Cupo out there and he's really good. Additionally,
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  I'm looking at Cameron Ward An Xavier Restropro at number two. Kim Ward's an
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  absolute dog and Xavier Restira Pro again was a top five wide receiver last year,
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  and I really like that duo for Miami. I think Miami's offense is
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  going to take leaps this year. And then I would put Noah fa Feta.
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  I hope I said that right, Noah fa Fida and McMillan at number
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  three. Now do I move Jackson Arnold Nick Anderson into that number four spot.
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  I think a lot of it is going to be based off of what
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  I saw from Jackson Arnold in high school and then what I saw from him
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  I guess early in the season in those games that he came into play,
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  and then what I saw in the BYU game. Obviously what you saw in
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  the Arizona game, Yeah, it looked bad, but taking the context of
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  he had a put together offensive line, people were opting out of that game
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  Jackson Arnold was obviously going to struggle a little bit there. So looking at
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  the way he did in the BYU game earlier in the season and then what
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  he did in high school, obviously Jacksonnold's got a lot of upside. I'm
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  not sure if he's number four, but I could definitely say number five.
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  I think the one that you really question is Shador Sanders and Travis Hunter,
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  because Travis Hunter is an absolute monster athlete. And listen, Shador Sanders,
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  he was slinging the ball all over the year. So you know, you
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  say that, and that makes me want to ask you'll both this question.
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  Right. So, when I looked at the list and just kind of just
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  you know, cliff notes of me and PG talking about it, I like
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  the Jackson Donalds down there at ten because that tells me that they see something,
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  especially top ten in college football, a player that we've seen limited,
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  true truly seen limited snaps on. Obviously you saw the potential in the in
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  the album Bow and it's there. But I don't understand we watched Shador Sanders
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  and Travis Hunter like light up college football. Why are they not thought like,
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  why aren't they even top three? Because we know what they can do.
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  I mean, you do a through of over four thousand yards of Travis
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  Hunter is a you know, he plays them both tops of ball absurdly.
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  Well, why why aren't they hired? I'll tell you that. I'll tell
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  you why. One word is humility. That's that's what That's what I mean.
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  Look, anybody that's ever been good at any any type of sport,
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  that's ever been mentioned on any type of list or whatnot, you understand the
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  politics that kind of go behind this. It's all about just being being making
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  sure that they understand we think you're we think you're really good, we think
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  you're elite. But it's a thing about humility as well. You know over
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  there at colorado's about the flash and dash. I mean I think that that's
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  I think that's that I'll go back to. I'll go back to this whole
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  Carson Bek and Dominic loved thing. And I'm not saying love it. It's
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  not a talented wide receiver, but that wide out from that just transferred from
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  Miami. Hell. I think he may have a better connection with Carson Bek.
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  I think he he maybe he could really come in there and turn some
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  heads as well. I forgot about that kid transferring over there. But yeah,
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  no, I'm with you. I think that Shadoure and Travis Hunter should
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  be higher. I would probably put them higher than Fafida and macmillan, to
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  be honest with you, McMillan and Forefieda had a really great alling, kind
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  of a showcase against us, which you know, you'll give them that,
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  but I think I probably put them up there higher than that. And I
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  think that we kind of have to wait and see if one and two of
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  those tandels are actually gonna work out. Like I said, Tess Johnson,
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  fast guy, stretch the field, deep balls, is that gonna be an
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  issue for Dylan Gabriel when he's there As far as that I know that offense
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  is I feel like more predigated to his game, maybe even more so than
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  what Levy was doing. But at the same time that deep ball is always
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  kind of being kind of an iffy subject, right, Yeah, he is
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  subject. But then also Quinn you Wes and Isaiah Bunn. Isaiah Bunn is
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  you know, tabbed us this really fast wide receiver. But like you know,
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  I think who was that I was talking to? Was it was it
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  Nick? I think it was Nick shout out Nick from Nino's corner. Maybe
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  it was a tie or somebody, but I was basically telling them. I
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  was like, you know, Isaiah Bun to me is just a stretch guy.
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  He's in I wouldn't even really call him a home run hereter, but
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  he's a stretch guy. But a lot of the plays, if you look
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  at a lot of his touchdowns on a lot of the big yardage plays that
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  he had, I mean, mil Row is basically he's basically keeping the play
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  alive and with his legs he's keeping he's just running outside of the pocket.
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  Everybody's respecting that, and then everybody's getting opened down the field. And when
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  he would see the guys, he would hit and connect. So I think
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  we still kind of got a weight on those guys. But it's definitely a
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  good list, but definitely some questionable some some some spots on there, honestly
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  where you could say, maybe we move these people now to move these people
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  up, Yeah, PG, we that's that's I'm trying to figure out what
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  the shador piece. We watched them play, we've seen them show up,
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  like how are they not? And now I get the humidity angle on it,
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  But now we know they're good. Like like, I know exactly what
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  it is. I know exactly what it is. Pull up that list again
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  and I'll tell you exactly what it is and you'll see what I'm talking about.
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  And by the way, shout out to the Bomb for gifting twenty of
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  your members subs. Oh wow, so that's cute. It's pretty big.
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  So okay, if you look at this list, what do the top five
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  teams all have in common? Outside of the quarterback and wide receiver, they
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  have a good returning offensive line. Uh, fair point, and and and
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  and it. I mean it's if you're to make this list, I don't
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  feel like you can look at it from the perspective of which teams have a
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  good offensive line, but it would make sense. Jackson, Arnold, Nick
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  Anderson at number ten, Oh, you just not have like on this list.
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  They probably are going to buy a lot of people's thinking have the worst
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  offensive line because they're turning over five new offensive linemen. Colorado did not have
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  a good offensive line last year. Otherwise, Yeah, shadorg Sanders and Travis
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  Hunter are probably higher up on this list. So that's how I kind of
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  look at it. That's what I think happened. I think they looked at
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  this list and they looked at other factors too, and said, hey,
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  these teams don't have a good offensive line, So yeah, they might be
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  a duo, but are they going to produce at a high level because we
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  don't know what that coverage is going to look like for the quarterback, right,
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  and the offensive line makes sense. I guess that's probably a piece that
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  I didn't consider in the conversation. While at the same time, though,
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  he's still through for four thousand yards and Travis Hunter, barring injury, if
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  you went injured, he probably gets you seven to one thousand yards receiving,
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  right, I've seen, but people have seen shador now in POWERFI football,
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  Like I think there's I think they're expecting next year for a little bit more
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  people to be prepared, and he's heading two in my opinion, a better
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  conference. Yeah, I mean, I guess you could say in theory,
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  the Big Twelve is a better conference. Now. Well mean, of course,
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  you know, with all the players that they're adding into it, but
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  I mean the pack wasn't no pump. They were playing against some you know,
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  I mean, Washington did go to national championships. It's not like we
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  can but pretend they weren't doing something. But at the same time, de
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  undn't him. I think that he didn't necessarily handle everything the best. I
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  mean, when you're shuffling your you know, back because I don't know when
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  it happened, but when you're taking play calling duties away from your offensive coordinator
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  and different things like that. Travis Hunter is injured, and you know,
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  he was kind of a different He was a shell of himself when he came
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  back from that injury trying to get back. So I mean, I think
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  he still was able to put up numbers and do things, but I mean,
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  it just it just got to the point where, you know, I
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  don't know. I mean, I I still think that he's an NFL quarterback,
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  maybe not as high as Kuiper you know, had him, but at
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  the same time, I think that he is an NFL quarterback and he will
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  go pretty high. He has a chance to go first round to really kind
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  of establish himself. He's done nothing but win and nothing but really good things
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  at every level that he's played. Shadur has I think this year it's kind
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  of a confirmation of what Dion has been talking about for the longest. So
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  I mean, I'm excited for Colorado and I think honestly, coming to the
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  Big twelve, I mean it's going to help them. I'm not I haven't
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  really looked at their schedule again, but I would say that they stack up
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  pretty well. I would feel like, and I think in so many additions
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  that they've made on the offensive line, they should be better. I mean,
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  they've gotten bigger. I mean, I think they're no excuse not to
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  be better, Like there's no excuse for them not to be able to make
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  some noise at least well. I mean now they also have a whole bunch
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  of staff changes, So I guess that's probably why you would ask the question
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  of how much better can they truly be with all the staff changes they're making.
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  So I did want to ask Chris this question though, because I asked
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  you Jay Chris So, Dominic Lovett, and Carson Beck. So you were
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  kind of talking about that Georgia perrying. Isn't it weird that they would include
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  a quarterback wide receiver duo for Georgia when they're so heavily reliant on those Titans,
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  Like, do we really believe they're going to use the wide receiver that
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  much because love it was there last year, well at like sub seven hundred
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  yards. Well, if you ask Tying, asked Nick sec connect, y'all
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  check us out. But if you ask those two, those two say,
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  oh, well no, they have another five star titi end. We know
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  they have five star titiens. We know they have all that stuff. But
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  I'm not convinced yet. Right, I don't know what Bobo is going to
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  do with that offense next year because it seems to me they're gonna have to
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  spread the wealth because didn't they lose lat mcconnkie as well. Uh yeah,
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  Munkley is he's he's in the drafts. He's been doing draft stuff exactly.
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  So you lose you lose your your safety valve, right, you lose your
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  guy that's always open, and then you lose your basically the heart and soul
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  of your offense in brock Bauers. So it's gonna be a readjustment period,
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  and I think that, you know, hell, it may even be unfair
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  to really put them on that list because you know what Kirby is going to
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  do. Kirby is going to manage the game by doing what he's going to
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  run he has forty running backs on the team, so you know he's just
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  gonna lean on that run game what Mike Bobo is known for. Yes,
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  yes, right, the Bobo offense is and I get it. But he's
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  gonna lean heavy on that. And this is why I say that. Okay,
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  So people don't think that, oh, well, he doesn't know what
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  he's talking about, because I think I've asked this question a while back,
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  is what does Kirby do with Carson Beck? Does he let him be Jake
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  from or does he let him be Stetson bending right? Does he let him
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  go out there and win games for him? Or does he make him a
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  certified game manager? Because because you could really kind of it could really be
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  sixty forty either way as far as what Carson Beck was this year, was
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  he a stets had been at a like player where he go out there and
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  make plays, he commanded the offense, had all the rest of that.
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  Or is he just a game manager to get you where you need to be
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  to the promised land, which is obviously SEC championship game and with the chance
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  to go and play for the college football you know, championship. Yeah,
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  it feels like he was more of just a manager. Really, yeah,
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  I mean he's good enough. Let's put like that. I'm not gonna I
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  think I just don't think that he's a I think he's more of a game
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  manager than a game changer. Like he's not gonna be the factor that changes
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  everything for what George has done, because I don't think he's at that level
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  of talent. It's just unfortunate. He ain't it. Uh, But he's
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  good. He's gonna win games, and he's gonna be consistent. Now,
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  I mean they lost to the Alabama team that we considered one of the worst
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  ones of the saban era, So that's where you have questions there. But
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  it's funny too when I look at this list, every single one of these
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  quarterbacks stuff for Jackson Arnold has basically a full season of film. Mm hmm.
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  That's it. And that's what jumped out to me the most. It's
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  like, oh, okay, so they really do see Jackson Arnold as something
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  that's gonna be special. But there's a question in the chat that jumped out
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  to me. Ace asked this question, can somebody explained to Texas Hype they
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  lose all they lost all their game changers, the only thing they didn't lose
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  is Queen Ears and they're almost right in the line. So you asked the
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  question, why are they all in hype? Man? Everybody? They've hyped
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  Texas for years And this is the thing that jumps out to me too.
• 21:33
  And I said this when I was talking to PG Queen Hearers up there at
• 21:36
  number one, because Queen Ears is just hype as everybody is making him.
• 21:40
  Why is he not in the draft? Like? Why are we still looking
• 21:41
  at his face? Why is he still here? Look, doesn't make any
• 21:45
  sense to me. That's a conversation and not ready for jays. I don't
• 21:48
  get it, like I truly do not get it, Like I'm trying to
• 21:51
  understand why are we still talking about him as if he is truly a savior?
• 21:56
  If you got to see another season of improvement in the accuracy, because
• 22:03
  I'm not gonna lie. Last year he improved in his accuracy from the year
• 22:07
  before, right, So I think you need to see a year of improvement
• 22:10
  in accuracy in not being hurt. I think if Ewers can do both of
• 22:15
  those things, maybe he earns himself into the top three rounds for this next
• 22:18
  year's draft. Because regardless whether Oklahoma fans want to acknowledge it or not talk
• 22:23
  good about a Texas guy Quinn Hewers didn't improve last year. Yeah, but
• 22:30
  enough, I mean to be honest overall. Yeah. And the other thing
• 22:34
  too is which is gonna lead to the next conversation. Thank you out for
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• 22:45
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• 22:48
  stars. Right, So let's jump into production. So I did a video
• 22:53
  kind of diving into it. I kind of wanted to make this open session
• 22:56
  of conversation, including everybody here in the chat. So of course I want
• 23:00
  to hear from y'all. Love to hear y'all's comments. Disengagement always, of
• 23:03
  course, not only helps us but helps us create better content. Right.
• 23:07
  We like to make tough for you all the people. And so I want
• 23:10
  to talk about sp plus ratings on the twenty twenty four returning production on the
• 23:12
  offense and the defensive side of the ball. So, if you don't know,
• 23:17
  sp plus is Bill Connley's rating system that he uses over at ESPN,
• 23:21
  and it's kind of like the It tells the story of with everything analytics wise,
• 23:27
  who do we think is, you know, gonna win games? Who's
• 23:32
  considered better, considered worse. It's just a it's a measuring stick to understand
• 23:36
  where team should be. And Oklahoma was rated very high on sp plus all
• 23:41
  of last season, even in our bad days, We're still rated in the
• 23:44
  top ten the entire time. So there it was just we underachieved from what
• 23:48
  we should have done. So I get people, you know, being upset
• 23:49
  with it, But this this jumped out to me. Right production wise,
• 23:53
  I'm gonna show y'all these charts. If you watched the video, you know
• 23:57
  I've talked about this before, but I want to get every his opinion on
• 24:00
  it. Returning offensive production, we are dead last in the SEC. Returning
• 24:04
  defensive production, we are number one in the SEC, and we're number eight
• 24:10
  in the country in defensive production coming back. That's freaking huge, right.
• 24:15
  This is why I have been vehemously battling the seven and I have win spread
• 24:22
  because the one thing that a Venables team is known for is defense, right
• 24:29
  where his teams are always known for being defense. That's what he's defensive coordinator
• 24:33
  by trade, that's what he is. We're bringing back all of our production.
• 24:38
  So there's a great chance that we'll have the top defense in the SEC
• 24:41
  next year, very good chance. Georgia's at eleven, in which they always
• 24:45
  retool and bring back a lot, as PG likes to say, and they
• 24:49
  should be fine. But we've got veteran presence and a lot of young kids.
• 24:53
  So first off, offensive side of the ball, we're sixteenth. Anybody
• 25:00
  underneath eight is replacing their starting quarterback. That's probably the one thing to recognize.
• 25:06
  So past to you guys on here when you see this offensive production,
• 25:11
  what excites you and also what concerns you when you see this rating that Missouri
• 25:17
  is gonna be a lot tougher team than people think. So many people are
• 25:21
  fixated on why Missouri is so highly thought of for next season. This is
• 25:27
  why, because they're bringing back so many players. Yep, I mean why,
• 25:32
  this is why now, as you pointed out to me though yesterday when
• 25:36
  we were talking, I believe it was in the green room. Yes,
• 25:38
  they're bringing back a lot of players, but they're now replacing coaches. So
• 25:41
  now we get to find out is it drink or was it the assistance and
• 25:45
  if it wasn't drink, his ass might get fired if they win seven games.
• 25:52
  So because Missouri's got a lot of momentum and you don't carry on that
• 25:56
  momentum with the coach, that's not able to get it done. But for
• 26:00
  Oklahoma, I I mean, it's it's interesting that we're dead last, but
• 26:06
  I also understand it because you're replacing a starting quarterback and you're replacing your entire
• 26:11
  offensive line, so you're replacing total of six guys I think everybody else and
• 26:15
  your top receiver, m top receiver Drake Stoops Statistically. Okay, yes,
• 26:21
  Drake Stoops, But I mean you're statistically that's what I mean. You got
• 26:26
  those guys there, so right, because he's not our best receiver, but
• 26:30
  statistically he was the most Okay yeah, statistic league team. So yeah,
• 26:34
  the defense. So I like how we're pointing out the defense. Okay,
• 26:40
  all right, Well we'll get on defense in a minute, Chris, let's
• 26:41
  talk. Just keep it on the offensive side. First, Chris, when
• 26:44
  you saw this, what excites you and what concerns you? Well, first
• 26:48
  off, I'm gonna tell you my biggest concern is how the hell we are
• 26:51
  we below Vandy? That that makes no sense. That makes no sense at
• 26:56
  all. You're sitting here telling me, Okay, Dylan, I'll give you
• 27:00
  that Drake Stoops okay. But I think honestly, hey, and I love
• 27:04
  Drake Stoops. Everybody knows I've went toe to toe with Texas guys about Drake
• 27:08
  Stoops being drafted all the rest of that stuff. But at the same time,
• 27:14
  Jay, you've heard me say this a lot over these last month or
• 27:18
  so after the season, I think we got I think we gotten better because
• 27:22
  because we have some options at the slot receiver now and I think we got
• 27:26
  a chance to be better. So with that being said, man, you're
• 27:30
  looking at that and you're like, Okay, well was that tall we heard
• 27:33
  us? Or what's going on? But I think I think for me,
• 27:38
  I think the only thing that that's concerning is is just the fact that you
• 27:45
  you know, I think the only thing that concerns me is is will we
• 27:49
  really meet the expectation right, the expectation of what the level that we're supposed
• 27:55
  to play play play to This is an offense. Honestly, that shit average
• 27:59
  somewhere between thirty thirty three points to forty points a game. I don't care
• 28:06
  that we're going to the SEC. We should be able to do that.
• 28:08
  So the only thing that's concerning is is is this. Have we given Latrell
• 28:14
  enough time to really get everything that he needs that he wants in as far
• 28:19
  as from the day after the Arizona game all the way up into the first
• 28:25
  game of this next season. That's to me. I think that's the only
• 28:26
  thing concerning. The thing for me is is that, Hey, I love
• 28:30
  it because I want them to have a chip on the shoulder because, to
• 28:33
  be honest with you, we have a lot to prove on offense. It's
• 28:37
  some guys, honestly, you know pg J. I'm sure you guys have
• 28:41
  talked about it, but when you're talking about who needs a great winner,
• 28:47
  who needs a great summer and spring and on and fall camp as well?
• 28:52
  I mean, Gavin Sawchuk man, guys like that, Borns, all of
• 28:57
  those guys, you can't. You can't just do mental reps this year.
• 29:02
  You gotta have it all the way around, man, because it matters that
• 29:06
  much. But I mean, I think for me, just I'm excited about
• 29:11
  the offensive line. To be honest with you, Yeah, we lost some
• 29:12
  guys, but we had guys that actually stepped up and played this season as
• 29:17
  well. Sexton. I think Jake Taylor, I mean you got this.
• 29:22
  Yeah, you go out there and you add guys in the portal that are
• 29:25
  that have the experience and the talent and who probably can come in and just
• 29:30
  play right away for beating boat. But you also go out there and recruit
• 29:33
  guys like Eugene Brooks, uh, Pierre Lewis, guys like that who honestly
• 29:40
  could see themselves on the field this year. Uh, if everything goes well,
• 29:45
  you know, especially this summer or whatnot. But I think the offensive
• 29:49
  line is going to be a strength. I think that the wide receiver corps
• 29:52
  is extremely dangerous. And if anybody on the race that uh that that wide
• 29:56
  receiver cords, they're crazy. And I think Jackson normal. I mean,
• 30:00
  I think he's gonna put it all together this year. But Seth Latrell,
• 30:03
  that's kind of to me. I think that's the one wild card, right,
• 30:07
  there's just are we giving does he have enough time to do what he
• 30:10
  needs to do? Yeah, the way he calls the game is really gonna
• 30:11
  be I portant. So for context for anybody that's wondering we're losing. Of
• 30:15
  course, thirty six one hundred and sixty passing yards out of fourth over forty
• 30:18
  two hundred yards. We are lou We lost eight hundred of our twenty three
• 30:25
  hundred rushing yards. We lost what's this, eleven hundred of our four thousand
• 30:32
  receiving yards. So you got Stogner on there too, who he only had
• 30:34
  like almost two hundred yards last season, but he still was production. That's
• 30:37
  gone with Drake Stoops who had nine hundred yards. He let the team in
• 30:41
  yards and receptions at eighty four, a lot bigger than we expect. Right.
• 30:45
  He was really a safety net for Dylan Gabril. He was the guy
• 30:49
  that he went to that was the most reliable. Even with drops, he
• 30:53
  was still the most reliable. And then end of the season and PG,
• 30:56
  you're right, after the bowl game, Nick Anderson finished with ten touchdowns,
• 31:00
  tied with Drake suits for ten touchdowns on the season. So you work correct
• 31:03
  on your video. I was wrong. I forgot that he did score in
• 31:06
  the bowl game and so so. And then of course the five linemen,
• 31:11
  you know, four of them go to the draft, one of them you
• 31:12
  know, transferred out. So yeah, you're the snap count numbers, we're
• 31:17
  losing so much, so it makes sense to be forty four percent. And
• 31:19
  Chris, I know you asked the question about Vanderbilt. Vanderbilt's returning a lot
• 31:22
  of their players, just not their quarterback and yes, wide receiver to Colorado.
• 31:30
  Yeah, I mean, but right, it's vnty, So it's not
• 31:34
  someone that was truly concerned about. Right. You know, they don't have
• 31:37
  James Franklin out there, you know, creating a miracle for them. But
• 31:41
  when we go in here defensively, cause this is a great point by Robert
• 31:47
  Robert I you know me, I try to keep it a buck when it
• 31:49
  comes of these conversations off on Robert, even not even being negative about it.
• 31:53
  But you're right, right, the defense has to show even more improvement.
• 31:59
  But this is a good thing, right, I mentioned in my video.
• 32:04
  Numbers wise, we went from the sixties in the advanced metrics to the
• 32:08
  thirties, so in the most important components of the game, we improved dramatically
• 32:14
  year over year, which means we're going in the exact route that Venables typically
• 32:19
  goes. He did the exact same thing at Clemson's his first year there.
• 32:23
  He was in the fifties, sixties and seventies in advanced metrics on his defense.
• 32:30
  Second season he moved into the thirties and tens and some metrics, and
• 32:34
  then the year after that, boom, you see him with a top five
• 32:37
  defense. We're on pace to do that now, and luckily the teams that
• 32:42
  were playing were looking at the offensive production. Missouri's probably the biggest threat because
• 32:45
  they are returning Cook as well as Botha's receivers in Cooeese as well as Luther
• 32:51
  Burdon, which that was interesting to me too. PG. I'm gonna let
• 32:53
  you talk about this in just a second. Is that Cook has bring me
• 33:00
  back all this production. But they weren't considered the best duos in college football.
• 33:02
  But that's what fascinating. Were they on their lists number six? They
• 33:08
  were they were six, I figure they'd been higher than that because of the
• 33:12
  production they brought back. That That was what kind of was kind of wild
• 33:15
  to me and seeing that. But then you've got, of course, Texas
• 33:19
  is bringing back their quarterback, but they're they're you know, retooling their receiver
• 33:22
  room. Auburn. I mean, Chris, are you really big on thorn?
• 33:29
  Do you really think, hey, hey guys, look look boy,
• 33:34
  Robbie's gone now and you have hardcore about him. There will be really hard
• 33:38
  There will be a continuation of the Dogs bomb series, and I can already
• 33:42
  tell you that is gonna be out there. Of course, all right,
• 33:45
  we want to make sure old miss. Of course, Brian Jackson dart back
• 33:50
  right, and he lost his tight end because Lane Kiffin is used tight ends.
• 33:52
  But you got asked the question is theyre going to be his productive?
• 33:55
  You know, damage of a concern. Bama still got Jaylen Milroe. We'll
• 34:00
  see what that offensive coordinator there can now do with him. Even Canadon Bors
• 34:04
  are really good coach. I think he'll need an additional year with Milroll before
• 34:08
  he can really do something, especially since Julian Sayin decided to transfer out.
• 34:12
  And they lost so much on the offensive side of the ball too. Yeah,
• 34:15
  I mean as they lost offensive linemen to the draft, the portal,
• 34:19
  the wide receiver, yet they they lost a lot of key play. The
• 34:23
  team ain't gonna be very good next year. Tye, get tie some therapy
• 34:30
  then of course, l s U. They don't have Daniels actually, else
• 34:32
  what both their receivers and Daniels. God, yeah, they got a lot
• 34:37
  to figure out. We got uh South Carolina, who's got a lot to
• 34:42
  figure out. I don't know what the quarterback kids. I need to look
• 34:43
  up their depth chart. So you want to hear who it is. I
• 34:45
  know who it is. Who do you think is gonna be? Well,
• 34:50
  okay, I don't think it's gonna be this person, but he's on that
• 34:52
  team. He's gonna get a shot. Who David Bevill, Yes, yes,
• 34:57
  Bevll was there. He ain't gonna play. So who's going there?
• 35:00
  They roll him out there in Norman. Now the only one on here that
• 35:07
  I think is gonna be a lot better than expected part in Tennessee because I
• 35:10
  think I think Nico's the real deal. He was one of the to me,
• 35:15
  the top two quarterback sim and Jackson Arnold and last years class my first
• 35:19
  offensive line looked like because I know they did a good job recruiting the offensive
• 35:23
  line, like they got through the portal. I mean they got Lance heard.
• 35:27
  You know, we were in a in Io battle with them for her.
• 35:30
  But overall, I don't know what that line's gonna look like. I
• 35:34
  did to go dig deep into their their their line and see they look like
• 35:37
  next year, I'm gonna do a breakdown of warrant two out of this year.
• 35:39
  But I don't know if they would start being true freshmen. Now that's
• 35:44
  a good question. And those two guys, if you're good enough you I
• 35:46
  mean, we played a true freshman, you know you'll you'll do it if
• 35:51
  the talent's there, if you think that that's going to make you successful.
• 35:53
  So that's a good question to ask. But overall, so I said,
• 35:57
  when I look at the numbers, man, it's not gonna be as bad
• 35:59
  as people than we got a lot better look look, and just kind of
• 36:05
  like, you know, I was really thinking about this while you guys were
• 36:07
  talking. But I think a point, it's three points as far as the
• 36:13
  defense, obviously it was just returning production, and I think three points of
• 36:16
  emphasis that you have to really, you know, talk about when you talk
• 36:20
  about his defense going to the SEC about them possibly being elite. I think
• 36:24
  one the SEC obviously offers you the chance to be more aggressive with your play
• 36:29
  calling because you're not going to see that big twelve stylar ball as far as
• 36:34
  you know, spreading you out doing different things like that. So by that
• 36:38
  that that byproduct causes Gosh mccola to be on the field a lot more,
• 36:44
  right, and I look for him to be more active and be more acclimated
• 36:46
  in his defense as well. But two, honestly, I think I think
• 36:51
  if it two and three, my point point two and three is this,
• 36:53
  if you can clean these two things up, I think this defense could be
• 36:59
  top ten. To be honest with you, and that's me being having very
• 37:01
  lofty goals and being very optimistic. But if you're coming into if you're coming
• 37:07
  into the season and you tell me, say, hey, I think we're
• 37:09
  gonna be better situationally meaning third down, we get it right, right,
• 37:14
  like, hey, we're aggressive on third downs, but we're also able to
• 37:16
  do what we're also able to play zone. So if you're able to really
• 37:22
  clean those two things up, even just semi clean it up, I think
• 37:28
  that I think this defense the world could be. It's only up from there,
• 37:31
  because I mean, that would really put them over. I think that
• 37:36
  would get you over the hump of where you really wanted to be, where
• 37:38
  you're not losing those two or three games you know per year by you know,
• 37:45
  five points or less, right, So I mean, I think if
• 37:49
  you could clean those things up, and that's that's the hope with with Ali
• 37:52
  coming in as the you know, new DC. But obviously I think I
• 37:54
  think everybody knows Venables is still going to be calling that defense. But I
• 37:59
  think if you can do those two things, just fix that situational play Collie
• 38:02
  on third and or fourth down, and then also be able to play zone,
• 38:08
  go a long way manit well. And you got to be able to
• 38:12
  play zone in colleges to give your players a break right. That way,
• 38:15
  they can pay attention and it's better for in some not only past situation,
• 38:20
  but also being to help to stop the run because you can react a lot
• 38:22
  faster because you're paying attention to an area and you know you can get there,
• 38:24
  So I anticipate us I do. I've seen it. We're number eight
• 38:29
  in the country in production, coming back at roughly eighty percent seventy nine percent
• 38:32
  total. I'm this defense is gonna be a Greviotable's defense next season. This
• 38:37
  is gonna look like Clemson did. Right. This is this defense Will I'm
• 38:40
  gonna tell you that right now. I'm going to say it as we speak
• 38:43
  and Kim point this out beautifully because this is how I felt about the offensive
• 38:46
  line every two years. We're basically retooling because we do a good job of
• 38:52
  the dudes that we get on the line, they end up going pro.
• 38:55
  Right, We've got see Guidon was here two years and he's a first round
• 39:00
  pick. He's gonna be late first round, could be mad depending on how
• 39:04
  Combine looks, but he's got all of the tools. At every single scout
• 39:07
  that I looked at said not, this dude is gonna be somebody. Legit.
• 39:10
  So beating Bow does this on a regular basis. This is what we
• 39:15
  can say. But defensively, Christian said it right man, this is gonna
• 39:21
  I feel like this defense is gonna be top ten. They've got all the
• 39:22
  tools to do it. Bringing back three key veterans to help teach the young
• 39:29
  players the offense. This to me, I'm gonna say this, Jaron Kantic's
• 39:35
  gonna have a Danny's touchman season next year. I agree with, and so
• 39:39
  is Kip Lewis. Kip Lewis's monster. So I'm gonna be out so in
• 39:45
  saying that I think we see less Danny than we do those two. Can
• 39:51
  I say this? I kind uh and I hadn't you know, can't go
• 39:55
  through a pile dimension shotut to my uncle but we had this conversation we kind
• 40:00
  of we kind of think that that can It could be the odd man out
• 40:05
  next year, simply because of some of the guys behind him. Oh,
• 40:09
  I mean, he better be careful because Sammy Omasigo or Lewis Carter could take
• 40:13
  a job. I mean exactly, I'll just saying it. I get it.
• 40:17
  I just I'm not wrong, but I do think that I think it's
• 40:23
  gonna end up being cannon can kill can It plays just like Danny Stutsman did
• 40:29
  in the first season with bird Venables. He played very loose and he made
• 40:32
  boneheaded mistakes. And I just feel like under the tutelage of BV and Danny
• 40:38
  Stutsman, who he spends a lot of time with, he's gonna get his
• 40:44
  crap together, and Atlie runs the same d So I just want to understand
• 40:49
  why people think this OU defense wasn't very good last year, because I understand
• 40:54
  we lost the KU and we lost the b YU, But I want people
• 40:59
  to understand, Oh, yeah, Okoma State, you have a healthy Gentry
• 41:04
  Williams and a healthy Danny Stutsman in both of those games. You win both
• 41:07
  of those games, and yeah, probably have a top thirty defense at the
• 41:10
  end of the year because before Danny Stutsman got hurt, Oklahoma was like number
• 41:15
  thirty five un total. It was attritionan attrition is what kicked our tail.
• 41:19
  Which that's the beauty of this next season is And y'all've heard me say this
• 41:23
  at nauseum, and I'm gonna keep reminding you of this. Miguel Chaevis tweeted
• 41:29
  this out that we play a bunch of young players over forty two hundred snap
• 41:34
  think it was like forty to forty and this was before the Bowl game,
• 41:37
  like four thousand, two hundred and forty snaps was played by players that were
• 41:40
  freshman, redshirt, freshman or sophomore, so either one to two years of
• 41:45
  college experience. That's huge, right. That means you're playing a lot of
• 41:50
  young players, which they're gonna make bonehead mistakes. Right. You can't fix
• 41:53
  that like or you can't fix that within their first year. That's something that
• 41:57
  they have to learn from experience of they tricked you. Now you need to
• 42:00
  understand how not to be tricked. So the good thing is you got Woody
• 42:06
  Washington coming back at corner, so with him and Gentry Williams or centurion healthy
• 42:10
  Macary Vickers has got some experience. Now, so does the Jacobe Johnson.
• 42:15
  You bring in das Malone who's a veteran. You got Kenda Adobe, who
• 42:17
  can play corner no problem, but he's so much better at cheetah and blitzen,
• 42:21
  so you've got that. So because of the attrition problems we had last
• 42:25
  year, all these dudes have been in the system one year, so if
• 42:30
  one falls, the next man can be up because he's actually playing. And
• 42:34
  I think that that's the one thing a lot of people aren't recognizing and how
• 42:37
  they're doing this. This is why we're taking bigger recruiting classes. They want
• 42:42
  homegrown dudes. They want dudes that's homegrown that they recruit and bring in instead
• 42:46
  of bringing in a bunch of transfers. They bring in transfers to feel some
• 42:50
  holes. But the goal is to make sure that the young players we have
• 42:52
  get enough snaps to where they can recognize stuff and when injuries happen, it's
• 42:58
  not as bad as we dealt with before. You get what I'm saying,
• 43:00
  No like that, No, I like it. We're going that direction.
• 43:04
  What you're saying in the nutshell could be can be summed up in just this
• 43:07
  one statement, this is a year where competitive death actually meets the talent,
• 43:14
  Okay, expectation and all the rest of that. This is when we're because
• 43:19
  because I feel like think of it like a paradigm shift. Right. You
• 43:22
  went from we want to be this that we talking about being this ruthless,
• 43:28
  aggressive and suffocating defense to hey, we're still trying to build that competitive debt.
• 43:34
  It's here now, Yeah, and it's all about that experience. Like
• 43:37
  you said, the talent is there. The bigger problem we had. We
• 43:42
  just didn't have the experience. Because as the season goes on, your top
• 43:45
  players are gonna see injuries, you're gonna have exhaustion, all of that.
• 43:49
  But that's the beauty is we're gonna we're gonna get all of that now and
• 43:53
  all of it. And what you get now is is how BV wants to
• 43:59
  run a which is the way he didn't here at Oklahoma before and the way
• 44:01
  he's done it at Clemson. Right now, you get a whole recruiting cycle
• 44:06
  that pretty much gets to sit on the sideline for a year. They get
• 44:10
  to be in the strength room, in the conditioning room, and they get
• 44:15
  to be in all those practices and stay healthy for a whole year so that
• 44:20
  when they're sophomores or red shirt freshmen, they're ready to go. That's the
• 44:24
  important thing. And that's why, like I stress on it all the time.
• 44:29
  And this isn't just defense. Like go look at what the Kansas City
• 44:31
  Chiefs, the Patrick Mahomes, right, they brought them in and they sat
• 44:35
  him down for an entire year and said, and you get to watch and
• 44:39
  then now look at it. He's one of the best quarterbacks in the NFL.
• 44:42
  Most quarterbacks that just get thrown out there. I mean, why do
• 44:45
  you think they don't do well for the first couple of years because they don't
• 44:47
  get to sit there. They don't get to learn NF offense. They get
• 44:50
  thrown into the fire, and it stunts their growth. And it's the same
• 44:52
  way for a print of Venable's defense. You get them in there, you
• 44:55
  sit them down, they get an opportunity to learn, soak it all in.
• 45:00
  They're gonna be better players. It doesn't stunt their growth. And I
• 45:02
  think that's what we're gonna finally be able to see, Chris. For you,
• 45:07
  Chris, let me point this out. So Chuck Kearney asked his question,
• 45:08
  Chuck, thank you for this. So why they offer the Michigan guy,
• 45:13
  so Ken Sab key On. Sab was recruited by Venables at Clemson.
• 45:20
  He was committed to Clemson and then Venables left to come to Oklahoma and then
• 45:27
  he reopened his recruitment, dropped his top four end up in Michigan on signing
• 45:30
  early signing day. They offered him because we lost Key Lawrence in the portal
• 45:36
  because Key wasn't gonna get as much game as he would have liked. But
• 45:39
  Robert Spiars, Jennings and Peyton Boying dealt with injuries last year. You bring
• 45:44
  in Sab who has some experience played on the national championship team. You bring
• 45:49
  him in to where all those young safeties like Powers and Hardy and MIKEL Pattison
• 45:53
  McDonald, all of them can just sit and learn. Just like PG said,
• 45:59
  they can sit and learn instead of immediately having to play. You bring
• 46:02
  that veteran in there. And I think that and if I'm correct, Ali
• 46:06
  also runs like a three safety set up sometimes, so then you have now
• 46:10
  a rotation of four dudes that are veteran and just based on health too.
• 46:16
  So Bowman Bowen, Robert Spears, Jennings, and then you know, you
• 46:21
  bring in sav and then you have Powers and Hardy, all of them.
• 46:23
  Because Powers, I know, physically looks like a Division one football player already,
• 46:29
  like he's built for it. So you offer a guy like that,
• 46:32
  there's one of Natty that's got the experience. So you have when Billy Bowman
• 46:36
  is gone next year because he has to leave at IT this year, you
• 46:38
  still get him for one more year as a veteran. With all of the
• 46:40
  other veteran pieces you're putting together. You just plugging in little holes that you
• 46:45
  need to have plugged in. Do we need them? No? It would
• 46:47
  be nice to have, yes, because then you can have your young guys
• 46:51
  learn the playbook and study better and you're not forcing them to throw it in
• 46:53
  there and get that immediate experience in critical games where you don't really want them
• 46:58
  to, right. That's really the thought. And one more thing to add
• 47:00
  to that, because I know he says the room is full, and I
• 47:04
  get there's a lot of safeties there, but one thing you don't A lot
• 47:07
  of people aren't looking at. And I thought about this last night, Billy
• 47:10
  Bowman coming back another year for Billy Bowman. This is going to be a
• 47:15
  year of just really fine tuning his craft yep, and that ability to play
• 47:21
  at the safety position, which means there might be it. There might.
• 47:24
  There's probably a good chance you don't see Billy Bowman play the amount of snaps
• 47:29
  that he did the year before because this year it's all about putting up really
• 47:32
  good film and showing uh prospect or or or or whatever you call him analysts
• 47:40
  that he has fine tuned his craft, but also not playing so many steps
• 47:46
  that it could actually hurt him and that you know, hey, I gave
• 47:50
  up something big or something there. So I think if you bring in a
• 47:53
  guy like sab he might be able to take some of those snaps off Billy
• 47:58
  Bowman and you get too good safeties. And then also they're not deadb tired.
• 48:01
  You're not putting a bunch of miles on Billy Bowman for this upcoming draft.
• 48:05
  I think you got to look at it from a bigger picture and say,
• 48:07
  Billy Bowman's trying to prepare himself to be draft eligible. He's just fine
• 48:10
  tuning the little things. Maybe taking a little bit of miles off of him
• 48:14
  won't hurt him in terms of his draft eligibility, and so the question here
• 48:19
  was did a sad play much did he start? Yeah, in a lot
• 48:23
  of games he did. Like I'm looking at him his numbers on PFF,
• 48:27
  he had like over three hundred and sixty snaps. NAT's championship game, he
• 48:30
  played sixty one snaps, forty six in coverage, fifteen on the rush on
• 48:36
  rush defense. So you played sixty one snaps in that game. Obviously he's
• 48:38
  one of your starters. I know he dealt with some health problems then he
• 48:42
  got hurt or whatnot. But I know he started against Washington in the title
• 48:46
  game at free safety, so he's played both free and strong, but you
• 48:51
  put him out there at free with Robert Spears Jennings, you have Bowen and
• 48:54
  Bowman rotating at the strong. You're gonna probably play a lot more Peyton Bowling
• 48:59
  than you are Billy because you're gonna get let the young guy get out there
• 49:05
  and really show his talent. But at the same time, you're rotating dudes.
• 49:07
  Often you gotta just keep healthy, right, and and depending on who
• 49:10
  these offenses you're playing against, how many of them are UH tempo based?
• 49:19
  Yeah, I'm merely where the game's going nowadays, right, football teams run
• 49:22
  high tempo, so especially got to think about it. Corners and safeties are
• 49:27
  running a lot. So if you're able to constantly swap those guys out with
• 49:32
  the elite talent and give guys a breather, that's that's pretty big. Yeah.
• 49:37
  Well yeah, and you don't want to play a lot of your young
• 49:39
  players right like you. I put it to you like this. If you
• 49:44
  followed me for a while, you've heard this before for anybody new. Let
• 49:46
  me kind of give you a Let me explain. I don't like when freshmen
• 49:51
  played. There's one reason why. It's not that I don't think the talents
• 49:54
  and enough they can't make it happen. All freshmen get tricked certain points.
• 50:00
  Alabama versus Texas, Caleb downs, it's overly aggressive. What did Texas do?
• 50:05
  They use it against him? He couldn't adjust why because only a second
• 50:08
  game, second game in college football, so texasknew what to do. They
• 50:12
  kept baiting him, and they just kept throwing it over the top behind him.
• 50:15
  That's what happens with freshman Procter. Their all the offensive lineman. Me
• 50:19
  and me and Tie talked about it a lot. He was getting baited like
• 50:23
  crazy against Michigan, and he started off season like all season. So that
• 50:30
  happens to freshmen, and it's all about learning the playbook, knowing how to
• 50:32
  react. And most of it is just experienced. It's not talented, just
• 50:37
  experience. Because I can trick somebody that has less experience than me on the
• 50:42
  field with stuff, that doesn't mean I'm more talented than them, right,
• 50:45
  And so having an additional vet in there helps those young dudes just learn to
• 50:51
  playbook faster and then you can start moving mix because most of the time you
• 50:53
  want your young players to play. You don't want them to start at the
• 50:57
  beginning of the season. You want them to start playing more at the end
• 50:59
  of the season. And when everybody's hurt injured and you can start bringing young,
• 51:02
  young legs, it's gonna be nasty. It's gonna be nasty. Constant
• 51:07
  rotation. And Reggie Powers junior year pointed out secondary be rotating guys too deep
• 51:13
  will be playing every game. The goal is to keep them as fresh as
• 51:16
  possible going into the playoffs. Well, legs out there, let me let
• 51:21
  me get a point in. Let me get a point in. So,
• 51:22
  yeah, one thing I would definitely say is this right here? Is that
• 51:25
  I think that you do want you do want some rotation and keep guys fresh,
• 51:30
  but you also want rotation for certain packages because if Harrington can stay healthy
• 51:37
  this entire year, I'm telling y'all, there were some things that this defense
• 51:43
  was supposed to do last year as far as putting certain packages out there on
• 51:46
  the field, especially in third down, that we did not get to see,
• 51:51
  and it could it could have been very deadly for a lot of teams
• 51:54
  that we faced last year. If you have Harrington McCullough, Usman, Bowman,
• 52:01
  Bowen Woody, you know, gentry on the field. That's I mean,
• 52:07
  come on, man, let's let's just be real, like if you
• 52:10
  you had some there was some stuff that was supposed to happen. One thing
• 52:15
  I would definitely say, just uh if I may. I think this is
• 52:20
  a conversation that that gets overlooked a lot. Me and my uncle talk about
• 52:23
  this, I say, every other day, maybe once every other week or
• 52:28
  so. But Vinimals gets a lot of flak for a lot of the stuff
• 52:31
  that you guys, just you and PG were talking about. You know,
• 52:37
  I always ask my mom, like, man, you think that venimals would
• 52:39
  have would have did anything differently coming here, and he's like, yeah,
• 52:43
  he probably would have been way more aggressive in the portal year one if he
• 52:45
  knew what he If he knew now what he knew then, right. But
• 52:50
  the thing is is that it's beautiful because you see he played the long game.
• 52:53
  And now I think that in year three it's really going to it's really
• 52:59
  gonna come all come together. And I think everybody's gonna be sitting there saying,
• 53:02
  man, maybe we had a bad maybe we gave him a bad rap
• 53:06
  too early, because this dude can really coach. It's just time to get
• 53:09
  that talent there. And I mean kind of goes back to what Ty always
• 53:13
  talks about as far as inheriting the sins of the father. And I think
• 53:16
  that, you know, coming here, he had basically fixed the culture that
• 53:21
  a lot of a lot of OU fans. If you really ask OU fans
• 53:23
  if they knew what was going on, they'll tell you, oh, yeah,
• 53:25
  I think I knew what was going on. But that's because of what
• 53:29
  all the stuff that we've heard from the Lincoln Raleigh era. But people don't
• 53:35
  really know how bad it was. They just know about the success on the
• 53:37
  field. So there was a lot of things that you had to break,
• 53:40
  a lot of bad habits, a lot of different things that you had to
• 53:44
  do with the culture of this program. So I always think that that's a
• 53:46
  conversation that gets overlooked because nationally, for some of my reason, a lot
• 53:51
  of people, especially you drop in random Twitter spaces, they hate BV.
• 53:54
  They think he's this, they think he's that, and it's just like dude,
• 53:58
  for some people, it just takes time. It just takes time.
• 54:00
  Yeah. Now, one more thing on SAB though, why would you take
• 54:05
  SAB? I just want to point this out. Billy Bowman's five ten SAB
• 54:08
  six to two. So what happens when you're going up against taller wide receiver
• 54:15
  Cord and you need taller safeties and corners out there and you have them.
• 54:19
  I'm saying, I don't know, because I saw Billy Bowman get down an
• 54:22
  interception on On Wilson. Johnny Wilson. If you can, if you've got
• 54:28
  the ability to match the size or get close to it, you're gonna do
• 54:34
  it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Sa, SAB's gonna be able to
• 54:37
  ball and Billy's, like you said, Billy's gonna just basically be here to
• 54:39
  hone his craft. He's to young players and prepare himself for the NFL Draft.
• 54:44
  He's already putting up stuff in his career to make him, you know,
• 54:46
  move into one direction on a certain day of the draft. But now
• 54:51
  all he doing is just sharpening it up to show that he has all the
• 54:53
  intangibles that they're looking for in order to go pro. But he's gonna drive
• 54:59
  up the pay every week in him deliver his highlights from the previous week,
• 55:02
  right right bright here, guys, y'all know, I should probably be you
• 55:06
  know, just to make sure y'all are seeing my highlights here here you go,
• 55:09
  which I cannot believe. I still cannot believe that dude was not on
• 55:14
  the Authorpe Award, Like how do you not? Or or Danny on the
• 55:16
  buckuts. I figured he won't gonna make buckets, but the both of them
• 55:22
  are stupid anyway, So anyway, not gonna lose my mind too much more
• 55:25
  on that. But looking at the production here, looking at these numbers,
• 55:29
  this is something for Sooner fans to be excited about bringing up, bringing back
• 55:34
  that much freaking production. And all you gotta do now is put it together.
• 55:39
  And the good thing is is bringing in a young, innovative defender,
• 55:44
  defensive coach who acts like an exact replica of your head coach. He probably
• 55:49
  thinks exactly like him. Collins plays exactly like he would. You're gonna see
• 55:53
  a completely different defense when it comes to execution by the defense itself is going
• 56:01
  overall good. It's not going to fall apart late in the season, especially
• 56:06
  now we have the experience you're bringing back all this production. You got the
• 56:08
  experience. These young guys know what they're supposed to be doing. We just
• 56:10
  got to tell them to. You want to know, it's funny about these
• 56:13
  rankings. If we were solely going off these rankings, some of the top
• 56:16
  teams in the SEC next year would be like A and M Florida, Texas,
• 56:22
  Missouri. Those would some of your top teams in the SEC. Look
• 56:27
  at this, Look at this, so I think no, let me see.
• 56:30
  The only one is I think A and M is the only one on
• 56:34
  this list that's top five in dem in Texas a top five And look at
• 56:37
  all of the stuff the A and M lost this season, and they're still
• 56:40
  in the top five in both and offense and defense. They brought back that
• 56:45
  many players that actually played on the field. Ain't that crazy class didn't play.
• 56:51
  Imagine that right, they're bringing back all their product. Albama lost all
• 56:58
  their defensive production, and they got any of their offensive production coming back.
• 57:02
  George, just like us, they're kind of all over the place, third
• 57:07
  in offense, down on the bottom of defense, but we're toping offense and
• 57:09
  bottom in bottom and offense top and defense. Which the funny thing about that
• 57:14
  is is just that it's because we lost our quarterback and offensive line. Yes,
• 57:17
  your quarterback, your best wife, your top producing wide receiver you can
• 57:22
  catch his and yards and touchdowns, as well as a running back who's one
• 57:25
  of your top running backs in Tywee who was right behind Salt Chuck, and
• 57:30
  your offensive line. But all of that stuff is like not something that's like
• 57:36
  detrimental. Like we didn't lose our our most talented wide receiver. We still
• 57:40
  got Nick, we still got hopefully stops you know, fumbling the ball.
• 57:45
  You know, I think he'll learn that this summer, which is gonna be
• 57:46
  a good thing. Jane Gibson. So when we talked about duos going back
• 57:52
  to that, you know, PG, you heard me say this I think
• 57:54
  Jackson Arnold, Nick Anderson is gonna be good. Jackson Arnold, Jay and
• 57:58
  Gibson. Remember he caught too touchdowns from him this season. Yeah, he
• 58:02
  didn't realize that, right, No, Gibson's touchdowns was from Jackson Arnold.
• 58:08
  I do realize that. As I heard you say that, I know what,
• 58:14
  Oh you can do. I'm just interested too some of the other teams
• 58:15
  on the rankings can do. Yeah. It's funny because Florida, by looking
• 58:20
  at the rankings, should be a really good team next year. Ye,
• 58:22
  but their schedule is so freaking hard they're gonna be lucky to win five games.
• 58:27
  Yeah, they have the uh, what's this? The toughest They have
• 58:30
  the toughest schedule in all The toughest schedule in college football, is what they
• 58:32
  what everybody is saying, Jay, it is the toughest the schedule in college
• 58:37
  football. I don't think they get out of the UCF game without firing Billy
• 58:43
  Napier because if he loses to u CF and Miami, they ain't beaten Florida
• 58:47
  State. So they're gonna get swept by all three Florida teams. I mean
• 58:54
  there's a good chance for that. So this is what it looks like.
• 58:58
  Good lord, hm mm hmmm. So two four to seven thinks that,
• 59:05
  of course US in Florida have the top two hardest schedules in college football.
• 59:10
  I don't think our schedule is that tough, to be honest with you,
• 59:13
  because I I don't think Alabama's that tough of a game anymore. I don't
• 59:16
  expect South Carolina to be that part of a team. I look at the
• 59:22
  hardest games being Ole Miss and LSU. I don't think LSU's gonna be a
• 59:25
  tough of a game, to be honest, I think there That's why I
• 59:30
  think it'd be tough. Oh, I can see that, fairpoint, fair
• 59:31
  point, That's why that's why I say it's tough. I don't see a
• 59:36
  world where LSU is so bad that they go, yeah, that's not a
• 59:39
  night game. They gonna give Oklahoma the business with the night game right there,
• 59:44
  like everything to try it last game of the season, just like I
• 59:47
  think Oklahoma's first game against Auburn is going to be a night game, and
• 59:52
  I think they're gonna they're going to give Oklahoma and Texas some of the hardest
• 59:55
  environments they possibly can. That's a two thirty game Boy. Do you think
• 1:00:01
  same sec two thirty game environment for Auburn though, that'll still be a pretty
• 1:00:10
  tough environment. No, it will be understanding. They're gonna try to figure
• 1:00:15
  out how to give Oklahoma and Texas the toughest environments possible in the schedule.
• 1:00:21
  Auburn and Missouri will be like playing at K State or playing at UH Texas.
• 1:00:28
  You know, now, I wouldn't say not. I mean, like
• 1:00:30
  I was about to say Texas Tech, I wouldn't say that Missouri. That's
• 1:00:34
  that's a good comparison. Yeah, I mean it would be like playing in
• 1:00:37
  those in those environments where it's very rough. It's just very very you know,
• 1:00:40
  hostyle or whatnot. But if you do go in there and do what
• 1:00:45
  you need to do, take them out and take the crowd out of the
• 1:00:46
  game, then they'll leave. I know a lot of people are like Missouri
• 1:00:51
  who and I know y'all want to climb on Missouri, But guys, please
• 1:00:57
  please do not overlook Missou. We all love or looked them this year,
• 1:01:00
  and I told y'all they were gonna be good. And as long as drink
• 1:01:05
  doesn't screw it up, Miszoo's gonna be pretty good. Again. Okay,
• 1:01:08
  that's the thing about it. That's that's the thing, dog, is that
• 1:01:14
  we keep saying this about that. What makes you think he won't screw it
• 1:01:17
  up. We don't have we screw it up last year. Okay, I
• 1:01:21
  just we don't have any definitive data proving that he won't screw it up.
• 1:01:27
  He had one good year. We've seen that at Texas too. We said
• 1:01:30
  the same thing about Charlie Strong, same thing about Tom Herman. And we've
• 1:01:32
  seen this in programs like that. We've seen it in Missouri. Missouri has
• 1:01:35
  had ten win seasons before the face of the face of the earth right afterwards.
• 1:01:38
  Right. Also, I like the balls, y'all know that, So
• 1:01:45
  we've got to we I need the consistency of them actually producing more than one
• 1:01:50
  year. I understand that. But Drink didn't have this talent before either,
• 1:01:53
  That's what I'm saying. Like this, Like Missouri, he didn't have the
• 1:01:57
  same roster last year, lot, but they increased the amount of talent they
• 1:02:02
  had on that team this year to the portal tremendously and they got like dudes
• 1:02:07
  that can ball. Well, Well, see, here's the thing The thing
• 1:02:12
  about it is for me, nobody has proven they can win a title the
• 1:02:17
  Portal yet and one has proven it. Well. Yeah, but they didn't
• 1:02:22
  replace half the roster with the Portal. They just went and picked a couple
• 1:02:25
  of guys out in positions of need and they filled hold. That's what I'm
• 1:02:29
  saying. Like, it's not that they didn't do what USC or Colorado did,
• 1:02:32
  Like they just went kicked out say that, positions of need and they
• 1:02:38
  went out and bought those players. And I don't want to feel like a
• 1:02:42
  missoo Homer. I'm just saying you are. We all know your Homer do.
• 1:02:45
  The're gonna be a lot better than people think. And I don't want
• 1:02:47
  Oklahoma to go in there and overlook that team. No, I mean they're
• 1:02:51
  they're they're a better they are a hospital, go ahead, go ahead.
• 1:02:58
  I was gonna say they're they're tougher Oklahoma State. I think that's a good
• 1:03:01
  comparison. Why because they have a lot of same tendencies. Now Defensively,
• 1:03:07
  they're they're I think they're way they're they're better than oh State. But you
• 1:03:13
  just have to basically tell them, hey, look, y'all are not gonna
• 1:03:15
  go and kill us with any of these home run hitters. Y'all are not
• 1:03:19
  gonna come out here and catch us slipping and take the umbrella off, you
• 1:03:23
  know, take the hood off of this thing. Y'all are not gonna be
• 1:03:25
  up. Y'all not gonna do that. Gosh, Stele Weez is gonna have
• 1:03:30
  to beat us, and he's gonna have to have one hundred and forty yards
• 1:03:36
  last year. Yeah, I know that, but I'm saying that, Hey,
• 1:03:37
  he's the possession guy, right, so you're basically telling him, Burden
• 1:03:42
  is not gonna beat you down the field. Burden's You're gonna have to get
• 1:03:44
  him over the field, over the middle, different things like that, and
• 1:03:47
  really figure out how to use him because somebody else is going to have to
• 1:03:52
  be that guy that steps up. But I mean, Brady Cook, like
• 1:03:53
  I said, I just kind of it's gunning like with their approach to offense,
• 1:03:58
  because there's some game where you're just like, why aren't y'all doing what
• 1:04:01
  you normally do is try to take the hood off of the off of the
• 1:04:04
  defense. But yeah, I mean that that's who I compare them to,
• 1:04:08
  So I don't I mean, I'm not necessarily underestimating them, but I think
• 1:04:12
  we'll get there. I think what we do is with this season, especially
• 1:04:15
  for you, I think you just piece milling. I think it's kind of
• 1:04:18
  three games at a time because you know that Auburn game, to me is
• 1:04:23
  the one that's kind of the trappiest of trap games because that's right before the
• 1:04:27
  red River game. So basically, like I said, with these games here,
• 1:04:30
  especially with those two buys built in in this year, I think that
• 1:04:33
  you kind of have to look at it that way, where it's yeah,
• 1:04:36
  three oh yeah, three buys. Main is a by game. Yeah,
• 1:04:43
  is going to be the game where you play all of them freshmen and you
• 1:04:46
  are playing some of the guys forer quarter and a half everybody else you're playing
• 1:04:50
  this game or seeing what you got right right when we play them, because
• 1:04:56
  if Auburn's undefeated, they're a lot harder to overlook at that point. That's
• 1:05:00
  true, That's true, And we would have the pat at that point because
• 1:05:02
  their toughest game on their schedule before they play US is Arkansas and all of
• 1:05:08
  their games before they play US or at Jordan's here, and Arkansas has has
• 1:05:12
  a new quarterback as well. You know, ply Sam Pittman silly survived,
• 1:05:15
  but plead it so Drink took the job in December of twenty nineteen. Here's
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  his classes. He had a the fifty first rank class in twenty twenty cycle,
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  twenty sixth in the twenty one cycle. In the twenty two cycle,
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  he was fifteen, so he started moving up. The twenty third cycle,
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  his recruiting class was ooh, this is getting bad. I'm past fifty in
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  here. I'm going. I think I keep going to the point though,
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  j I think I'm still going. I'm at one hundred. I think you're
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  missing the point though. No. No, that's my point is that everybody
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  that we've seen is dominant in the national title rum. They're thirty fourth in
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  that twenty three and in this past cycle for the twenty four class, Missouri
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  was sitting at twenty. So your title teams top ten recruiting classes. I'm
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  not saying they're going to be a title team. I'm just saying they're going
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  to be a team that comes in there and they're going to be a hard
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  win. They're not going to be an easy win. I think I've heard
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  a lot of Ou fans talking like we're just gonna come in there and run
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  all over Missouri and that's not going to be the case like historically we have
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  that historically we have especially even with their good teams. So yeah, but
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  I think this is one of Missouri's best teams. Though I don't think this
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  is one of their like two thousand and seven. I think this is one
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  of their better teams that they've had, just in a compilation of talent,
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  I think this team is better than their conference championship teams. I mean,
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  look at the compilation of talent they have on this team compared to what they
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  had then. I mean that those teams went to conference championships. It is
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  kind of my point. They won divisions, two division titles in a row,
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  so they got to the SEC. Yeah, but there was also a
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  time where the SEC was getting run over by big twelve teams because of our
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  high tempo offense, and the SEC teams at that time were not running that
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  kind of offense, so they were building for more so kind of pound the
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  ball, and Missouri and Texas A and M were able to do whatever they
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  wanted to those SEC teams. Wait, I don't know, they gotta be
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  proven. Was it was it Missouri and Texas A and L or no,
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  because Texas A and M was already kind of trend now they Yeah, because
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  TCU was in a big twelve. You don't remember that Kimny Trill of all
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  people that's a name was beating Arkansas and john and then and then and then
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  they had Johnny Manziel. Yeah, Menzil. You know they they beat Alabama.
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  They didn't play any conference championship. Oh yeah, yeah, you know,
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  I get you there. I'm just saying I just need I need this
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  to actually be proven to me. No, I understand you're saying. I'm
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  just I just don't want Oklahoma, like especially the team, to overlook that
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  game because it's Missouri and we have history of running over to them, like
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  people talking like Missouri is just a scrub and they ain't. They're they're not
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  a scrub. Like they're going to be one of the harder games on our
• 1:08:11
  schedule. I think they're a scrub. But we'll we'll. I think they're
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  face your day. We'll revisit this, Oh we will, we will because
• 1:08:18
  I think they're fried all right, But goes if Auburn's undefeated, that's Oklahoma's
• 1:08:24
  best scenario because you're not going to be overlooking a four and oh Auburn team
• 1:08:28
  going into Texas. I mean it's true. No, you're you're right,
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  So okay, just wrap it up. Last thing I want to talk about,
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  Yeah, I know, like the game we got something. It showed
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  up to us yesterday, you know, yes, n C A A twenty
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  five. We'll be here. It's official, Chris PG. How excited are
• 1:08:54
  you all about this game? Okay? So fellas, let's go ahead.
• 1:08:57
  Let's wrap this up. Just go ahead. Everybody's up. Listen to me.
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  Okay, the Black Mike Leach is talking right now, best the best
• 1:09:05
  player that you've ever met. Okay, I could give it to you any
• 1:09:09
  type of way that you want it, all right, any type of way
• 1:09:12
  that you want it. There's not a soul out here that can honestly sit
• 1:09:15
  sit across from me and say they could beat me at this game. You
• 1:09:19
  you never played me? All I know is this right here? I've never
• 1:09:24
  played you. It doesn't really matter, Okay, I'm just like, you
• 1:09:29
  know, do you know how much time I pour into video games? Ask
• 1:09:32
  Jay? That is perfectly fine. But when the black my leaks gets when
• 1:09:39
  black, when the Black Mike Leach gets that headset on and that controller in
• 1:09:42
  his hand. It's different, all right, it's a different animal. I
• 1:09:45
  don't know if you're ready for that. Jay. You know you, my
• 1:09:47
  boy. I gave you a lot of hell for a certain quarterbacks that you
• 1:09:53
  have, but I'm gonna leave you alone because you gave me this invite to
• 1:09:56
  the show, so I'm just gonna let you live. Wow. I am
• 1:09:59
  so exc for this game coming out. Jay. I couldn't wait till we
• 1:10:02
  got to get I couldn't wait to get to this topic. You talked about
• 1:10:05
  a wish list. Well, it's two things that I wish up with.
• 1:10:09
  The most is that they don't put Ollie Gordon as a ninety nine on this
• 1:10:13
  on this next game, and then two that they don't that they don't put
• 1:10:18
  Quinn Eyrs as a ninety six. I mean those ratings to me. I've
• 1:10:23
  seen some projective ratings and I'm just like, this is crazy. How we
• 1:10:26
  get how how do we get here? How did we get here? I'll
• 1:10:30
  be honest. One thing I really hope is that they go closer to the
• 1:10:33
  old school NBA Live ratings and they didn't put anybody at the nineties right make
• 1:10:39
  the game nine player should be Caleb Williams. I ain't E think Caleb's gonna
• 1:10:43
  well, he gonna be on the game. But yeah, Abody, if
• 1:10:45
  you were look at a nine nine player, he is a ninety nine player.
• 1:10:51
  Ninety five is the best I would give him. But that's me because
• 1:10:58
  we saw his record this season, a niney nine player having that kind of
• 1:11:00
  record. I mean, unfortunately, there's only so much you could do by
• 1:11:04
  yourself in football. Yeah, you just win the games. That's what you
• 1:11:08
  do. That's what we've watched him do before we did. We saw him
• 1:11:11
  do that all the year before that defense was still bad and he was doing
• 1:11:14
  it. So that's kind of my thought with that. But I do want
• 1:11:16
  them to not provide that. I think, if anything I want to see
• 1:11:18
  in there, I would love to see a lot of the mechanics and mechanisms
• 1:11:21
  from fourteen, especially in the recruiting piece. Toss in some nil, toss
• 1:11:28
  in a little transfer portal stuff, and keep it simple. I don't want
• 1:11:33
  it to be mad. I don't want it to be too complex in the
• 1:11:35
  gameplay. I don't need you to have me doing eight million adjustments unless I
• 1:11:42
  want to. Don't require me. Make it to where I can sit there
• 1:11:44
  and just be dumb and play. It needs to be. It needs to
• 1:11:47
  be a pick up and play. Don't add any crazy animations or anything like
• 1:11:51
  that exactly, even if you do have to use some modern I mean something
• 1:11:58
  Matt Modern, some Madden Cannicks. Here's a couple of things just to get
• 1:12:01
  it right. No nano blitzers please, all you guys out there that just
• 1:12:06
  literally run the pinch oh all day, or run any type of zero blitz
• 1:12:11
  plays. You guys don't know what you're doing. Okay, take some of
• 1:12:15
  the cheesiness out of there. Obviously guys are gonna be trying to go and
• 1:12:17
  get that the Lincoln Rally offense or the or the playbook. And you know
• 1:12:23
  it's all about playbooks, right. Oregon's playbook used to be a favorite of
• 1:12:26
  everybody's. Mine was obviously OU's, but with like Kevin Wilson and all those
• 1:12:30
  guys. But no, I think Jay, Hey, what you said is
• 1:12:33
  right. Then go back to fourteen. Hell, if it was me,
• 1:12:35
  I'd go back to two to twenty ten mechanics, but just with better grad
• 1:12:40
  Yeah, year to twenty ten was a really good year, the one with
• 1:12:44
  gosh, what was that Texas tech wide receiver? Oh? Tree, Prime
• 1:12:49
  Tree, Yeah, with Crimetree on the cover. Yeah. That or the
• 1:12:54
  one with Tim Tebow on the cover as well. Those were really good ones.
• 1:12:58
  I live like, Yeah, hey, we go back to as Howard
• 1:13:00
  era if you if you want to keep it a buck. I just want
• 1:13:02
  to be able to recruit my running back that bench presses four hundred pounds and
• 1:13:06
  squat six hundred and runs a four four forty. It's all I need in
• 1:13:11
  my life. I need to be simple. Do you want to have the
• 1:13:13
  mechanic where it says Missouri offered my player five hundred thousand dollars to leave my
• 1:13:17
  program? Right that? That's the only mechanic I want. I want to
• 1:13:20
  be able to see the nil offers come across the table. I don't even
• 1:13:26
  want to see them personally. I just want to know I'm good. I'm
• 1:13:29
  good. I don't need to know that I'm being outbitted. I don't need
• 1:13:32
  that that that. I don't need that negativity in my life. Do you
• 1:13:38
  think they added an nil portion to this game where you have to get in
• 1:13:43
  and offer money to your players to be able to stay at the program for
• 1:13:45
  a year. They have to they have to add that. I mean write
• 1:13:48
  it in fourteen and wait till next year's game through that or do you think
• 1:13:51
  this year in this game, it's more so bringing the game back, getting
• 1:13:56
  people back on it, and then next year you integrate some new mechanics like
• 1:14:00
  that into the game. No, I think they'll add that in there.
• 1:14:02
  I think they'll added in now. Cool, because I'm going back and I'm
• 1:14:06
  getting Kateren Green back on my team. I mean, you can do that.
• 1:14:13
  But that's one of those things, is that. So like in fourteen,
• 1:14:16
  they have a component now they have a component there for transfers to where
• 1:14:19
  if the kid wants to transfer out, you can convince them not to transfer.
• 1:14:26
  So you can say they're leaving because they want more playing time, but
• 1:14:29
  oh, I can promise you this many snaps if you stick around they need.
• 1:14:31
  The problem is my dynasty is so good that when kids transfer out,
• 1:14:35
  it's like, yeah, I can't do anything for you because you weren't gonna
• 1:14:40
  play. So you're not playing that dynasty by yourself when you got me in
• 1:14:43
  there and those kids, you know, because I'm gonna recruit your best player.
• 1:14:46
  I mean you can try. Hey, like I give you four million
• 1:14:49
  dollars to come play for Mexico. So I'm not even gonna do the money.
• 1:14:54
  Picture this right here, I'm sick. I'm sicking their head with it.
• 1:14:57
  Okay, so picture this. It's just an individual. Jay calls upg
• 1:15:00
  Is like, I can't believe what Chris, Chris weaves stupid, this low.
• 1:15:04
  This recruit came to me and told me, Coach, I don't know
• 1:15:08
  if I'm coming anymore because you're not gonna be here next year. You may
• 1:15:12
  not be here the next year either. Coach Griffin told me that you are.
• 1:15:17
  You're gonna be a lion. You're be lying in my players NonStop.
• 1:15:21
  Okay, Hey, you know that is a tactic people use on the recruiting
• 1:15:27
  trail against guys like Lincoln Riley and uh, they had to be doing it
• 1:15:31
  against what's his name out there at LSU this year. Oh yeah, we're
• 1:15:35
  circulating like those are real things, Like those are real conversations. I'm done
• 1:15:41
  with you. I'm done with you. I'm done with you, Chris.
• 1:15:44
  He's gonna be lying people. You know what, because you guys used to
• 1:15:46
  be able to re align your conferences. Do you think they bring that back?
• 1:15:49
  Yes, can to the customers like that actually game and immediately go to
• 1:15:57
  the Pac twelve and delete that conference, the two man conference. I would
• 1:16:04
  have delete that conference and they can come down to the Big twelve. Otherwise,
• 1:16:11
  what gives you so much hope is that was it? The revamped guys
• 1:16:15
  are are really instrumental in this game as well, so a lot of stuff
• 1:16:19
  that they've added and a lot of different things. And I think I think
• 1:16:21
  one of the things I'm excited about though that can be madenlike is just like
• 1:16:27
  the updated seasons, right, different covers, different things like that, different
• 1:16:31
  you know. And obviously I'm saying this to everybody just to save you grace
• 1:16:36
  or save you the headache. Look, Chris christ I am starting a YouTube
• 1:16:44
  channel so we can all play each other live stream. Everybody can watch you
• 1:16:46
  get your ass on this game, all right, That's what I'm talking about.
• 1:16:53
  Watching the YouTube channel so that we can play people live like people come
• 1:16:57
  and watch this PG. I have plans for you and tie and beat it
• 1:17:03
  by forty. I'm just letting y'all know I was ranked and Madden. That's
• 1:17:08
  that's how much I played that, like, you know, leading up to
• 1:17:11
  before I became this whole lawyer and all the rest of the stuff I was
• 1:17:15
  ranked and Madden like nationally, No, internationally, I hate. There's a
• 1:17:19
  lot of people out there that cast some country boy ass whoopings. Don't make
• 1:17:23
  it, don't don't, don't be the next one. Okay, we don't
• 1:17:25
  have to worry about that. Listen, We're gonna have one of the biggest
• 1:17:28
  n C double A football video game channels where everybody's gonna be able to come
• 1:17:32
  in watch some butt whoopings in there. We're gonna get some high profile people
• 1:17:36
  never watch. It's gonna happen. We're gonna do it. Be ready,
• 1:17:40
  y'all, we'll all together. We'll put together Ran to play too. Thinking
• 1:17:45
  him on the last last thing, I will say, all right, everything
• 1:17:48
  that the like, the people that y'all play with the most, that taught
• 1:17:53
  y'all a lot. Anything that they didn't teach y'all, I will, Okay,
• 1:17:59
  this man, anything they didn't teach y'all, I will. That's all
• 1:18:04
  I need you to do, though, is every week we get on with
• 1:18:08
  Tye, you talk shit. Auburn by forty. I just need you every
• 1:18:11
  time you play tie Auburn by forty every time, no more, no less,
• 1:18:16
  just Auburn by forty anything that the live in his head. I hope
• 1:18:21
  I fight you. I just hope he fights you at this point. I
• 1:18:27
  just need that to happen at this point. So anyway, all right,
• 1:18:30
  we're gonna wrap it up. Thank you' all for pulling up PG. Let
• 1:18:33
  people know where to find you. Then Chris, you follow up, and
• 1:18:36
  then we'll close this bad way out. Yeah, y'all can find me here
• 1:18:40
  on YouTube, Apple, Google, or Spotify the PG Show. Hey,
• 1:18:45
  listen, as we talked about earlier, we got junior day lists coming out.
• 1:18:48
  You're gonna see more visitors on campus sporadically. Maybe not on these junior
• 1:18:53
  days or on the twenty twenty six days, because I think the April and
• 1:18:58
  the March dates are not technically or days. They're like that year where you're
• 1:19:02
  shooting out the next one. So you're gonna see a lot of twenty twenty
• 1:19:04
  six and twenty twenty seven guys. But we're gonna review all those lists,
• 1:19:08
  and Hey, the good news is you don't have to pay for that content,
• 1:19:11
  so just come on over get it for free. Men that don't do
• 1:19:15
  that, we're here to start, no problems, and yeah, we'd love
• 1:19:18
  to have you to be a part of it. We're here to start those
• 1:19:21
  those problems. Chris. Let the people know, all right, Hey,
• 1:19:25
  everybody, you guys can find me at the Hornsdown Podcast on YouTube wherever you
• 1:19:30
  get your podcasts at as well. Got some more top five videos that we're
• 1:19:32
  gonna be bumping out here soon. Like I said, uh, the video
• 1:19:36
  about why Jackson Normal will be successful in twenty twenty four. That's up,
• 1:19:41
  that's running. Thank you guys for all the love to support. Definitely a
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  head on over there to that channel, subscribe, like share, do all
• 1:19:47
  those different things as per usual for this channel as well. Thanks for the
• 1:19:53
  invite, Bro, appreciate you always, man always PG you need to Yeah,
• 1:19:59
  we're gonna do that, all right, we'll out, we'll tie it
• 1:20:01
  up later. Peace,