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Self Therapy Through Verse According To GAVIN ROSSDALE From BUSH · HEAVY Music Interviews

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  Speaker 1: This is Gavin from Bush. We have our tenth record
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  Speaker 1: are now I'd beat Loneliness and it's fucking great and
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  Speaker 1: I'm happy to beat you.
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  Speaker 2: Fantastic Gavin, thanks to join us today. Cheers, Cheers, Dada Brothers.
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  Speaker 2: As you say, Bush released your ten studio album I
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  Speaker 2: Beat Loneliness just last month. So how's the early reception
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  Speaker 2: been for it.
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  Speaker 1: It's been fantastic, really amazing across the board, really great
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  Speaker 1: reception to a record that is finding its way connecting
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  Speaker 1: with people. And this has been a really fun time,
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  Speaker 1: you know, releasing sixty Ways to Forget People, then you know,
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  Speaker 1: to DSPs and then because the different kind of ways
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  Speaker 1: people do it now and there's Scars, it's not just
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  Speaker 1: then Land of Milk and Honey then Scars. Maybe I'd
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  Speaker 1: beat Loneliness the next and there's a nice way they've
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  Speaker 1: just working the album, and so it feels like a
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  Speaker 1: body of work because I suppose it's like cracking on one
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  Speaker 1: song for like six months, you know.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, we're dood now. It's a bit of a deep album, right.
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  Speaker 2: But before we get onto that, can you tell us
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  Speaker 2: a bit more about the album from a musical point
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  Speaker 2: of view and what a you're going for this song around?
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  Speaker 1: You know, for me, music is still an experiment. I'm
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  Speaker 1: still twenty five percent I don't understand about it, or
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  Speaker 1: probably even more and and and so every song I
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  Speaker 1: write is this form of experimentation for me and just
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  Speaker 1: diving into these different worlds. So for me, I'm finding
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  Speaker 1: a lot of a lot in the detuned world and
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  Speaker 1: then a lot of in the sense the soft sense
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  Speaker 1: you can have, and I can create these worlds to
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  Speaker 1: write in that. I have a weird, weird skill set,
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  Speaker 1: weird weird little skill set, which is I can go
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  Speaker 1: into banks of sound and I can really so I've
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  Speaker 1: done it for years where I had to listen to
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  Speaker 1: other people going through them slowly, I mean, but now
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  Speaker 1: I've got my own studio, can go through things really quick.
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  Speaker 1: And so you find these great moments that create these
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  Speaker 1: atmospheres with with their keyboards, and so I just.
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  Speaker 4: Write in those in those worlds as where I write.
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  Speaker 3: What do you mean by banks of sounds before?
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  Speaker 1: I mean like soft sense, you know, like the libraries
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  Speaker 1: of sounds, so sonically you know, from from film score, music,
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  Speaker 1: from Arabian music, whatever, it's infinite, you know, I mean
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  Speaker 1: the world of sound put on hard lives. You can
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  Speaker 1: imagine there's there's banks of sound for everything that ever
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  Speaker 1: happened in.
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  Speaker 4: The history of the world and.
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  Speaker 3: Occupied for a while anyway.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, but I'm really quick ated.
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  Speaker 1: The thing is I've got I'm quick at it, so
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  Speaker 1: I love that process of it. It just sort of
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  Speaker 1: feels as close as I get to being a bit
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  Speaker 1: of a painter or something like throwing music around just
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  Speaker 1: seeing where it connects to.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Lie, now you've been quite to say that I've been
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  Speaker 2: lighted as is the most personal record you've have made.
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  Speaker 3: Can you elaborate on that for us?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that I made a conscious effort to
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  Speaker 1: be to make a really honest album about what I
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  Speaker 1: was thinking about and where i'd sort of got to
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  Speaker 1: at this point in my life, you know, a sort
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  Speaker 1: of some degree whatever experience I had, and you know,
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  Speaker 1: I just decided to be open and vulnerable and be
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  Speaker 1: myself so that people could see that it's not not
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  Speaker 1: easy for anyone. And I'm firmly of the belief that
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  Speaker 1: this is a record for everyone because it sort of
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  Speaker 1: speaks to everyone's vulnerabilities and life is not easy, life
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  Speaker 1: is amazing and magic. We've never lived at a better time.
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  Speaker 1: There's never been a bad time to be a live
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  Speaker 1: But at the same time there's a high price and
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  Speaker 1: a high cost and people it's good to have a
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  Speaker 1: record you can relate to and is not based in
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  Speaker 1: aspirational do you know what I mean? I didn't do
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  Speaker 1: a record about villains in the South of France, and
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  Speaker 1: everyone's like, oh fuck, I've got to go in that record.
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  Speaker 1: I want to get a Villains south of France. Unfortunately,
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  Speaker 1: if I fucking knew how to do that, I just
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  Speaker 1: would have done that.
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  Speaker 4: And then Bush and then nine albums.
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  Speaker 2: So like to say, man, this is your tenth album,
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  Speaker 2: So why decided that this is the right time? Bad
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  Speaker 2: gets so personal and in depth on an album.
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  Speaker 1: Life just fucking tells you what to do. I don't
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  Speaker 1: know what you tell life to do. Life tells what
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  Speaker 1: to do. I mean when I traditionally made records before
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  Speaker 1: you know the artist, Survival was really, you know, for me,
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  Speaker 1: a really big record, a big triumph, and this was
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  Speaker 1: directly talking about all the kind of struggles that everyone
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  Speaker 1: had gone through and our ability to be strong and
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  Speaker 1: so therefore it's a little bit outward. And then on
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  Speaker 1: this one, I Honestly, I had so many conversations with
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  Speaker 1: people that love the band, and I had a consistent
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  Speaker 1: theme through that those conversations, which was about was about
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  Speaker 1: what the records meant to them and how they've been
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  Speaker 1: in the records or the music had been there for
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  Speaker 1: them through their worst times, real common theme, and so
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  Speaker 1: I just thought, well, that's obviously the I'm not very
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  Speaker 1: good at party music, right, It's not my thing. I'm
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  Speaker 1: no good at I'm no good at like storytelling, like
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  Speaker 1: fucking they know the blues bands.
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  Speaker 4: I can't. Don't tell stories.
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  Speaker 1: I do situational you know, investigations, you know, human things,
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  Speaker 1: living things, And so I just went to the best
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  Speaker 1: of myself basically.
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  Speaker 4: So that's what came out. And usually when.
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  Speaker 1: I'm writing songs, right, I will traditionally what I've done before,
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  Speaker 1: and it's always important to change what your traditions are.
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  Speaker 1: I'd say, write twenty five songs, right, and then if
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  Speaker 1: I'd wheel them down and write you know, but then
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  Speaker 1: what happens. The best theme doesn't win, the best choruses win.
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  Speaker 1: So then you end up with records that are like
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  Speaker 1: sort of obviously the same person writing them, but they're
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  Speaker 1: not necessarily as like, oh shit, that was the one
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  Speaker 1: that we just act to one of the fucking themes.
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  Speaker 4: Everything we're talking about, you know, talk about fuck. We'd
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  Speaker 4: take that out, you know.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, I only write wrote twelve songs, and
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  Speaker 1: I kept them in a very consistent vein consistent themes,
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  Speaker 1: which is basically, after five songs, normally, I'd be for
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  Speaker 1: fuck's sake, stop thinking about yourself and I would find
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  Speaker 1: an alternative subject. Literally, I'd be like, do not start
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  Speaker 1: a song with I fuck me sideways?
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  Speaker 4: Stop it?
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  Speaker 1: You know this one, this one I felt more. I
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  Speaker 1: felt I just gon saying ay a lot.
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  Speaker 3: Well, you know.
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  Speaker 4: What you say.
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  Speaker 3: Overall, it's an album of hope for an album of spare.
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  Speaker 4: Not just fair like fun. Look at me.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm a fucking I'm like you do, I
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  Speaker 1: mean a wolf. It's not it's like I'm living I'm
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  Speaker 1: a living wolf. It's no, it's it's it's important that
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  Speaker 1: people that it's not like, it's not it's not a
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  Speaker 1: bible for the manic depressive or something like that. You know,
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  Speaker 1: it just sort of it's there to be uplifting. But
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  Speaker 1: you know, I'm like a I'm like a really fun person.
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  Speaker 1: It's like a it's an upwardly mobile record. It's for
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  Speaker 1: people to be alive too, you know. I think that
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  Speaker 1: the one thing that I bring and I always talk about,
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  Speaker 1: for instance, is an urgency.
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  Speaker 4: You know, life.
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  Speaker 1: There is an urgency to life, you know, because you
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  Speaker 1: have to create your own momentum. I tell this to
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  Speaker 1: my young kids, you know, like life doesn't care about you,
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  Speaker 1: you know. I mean, you make your you make your
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  Speaker 1: you make the waves, you you you you know, you
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  Speaker 1: your surf on.
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  Speaker 4: You know, this is what life is about.
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  Speaker 1: So I don't know, just making a really concise, powerful
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  Speaker 1: record that punches, and then it also it's you know,
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  Speaker 1: the idea is is that it's kind of big and heavy,
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  Speaker 1: but if every song was big and heavy, it would
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  Speaker 1: be sort of one dimensional. So it tails off and
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  Speaker 1: it goes into sort of a more kind of vibe
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  Speaker 1: and and then you end with the rebel with a cause,
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  Speaker 1: and then if you like, you can start again and
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  Speaker 1: the whole thing goes around again. But it's like a
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  Speaker 1: bit of a cycle of of how things.
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  Speaker 4: Are, Yeah, how things are?
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  Speaker 1: I mean the main thing for me is just not
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  Speaker 1: make a record that sucks, you know, Like I've got kids.
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  Speaker 4: I don't want to suck. I don't want to suck. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: yeah yeah.
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  Speaker 1: People who always sad to me, like, you know, if
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  Speaker 1: it's so cute, you know, I do you rightly song
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  Speaker 1: about your kids? I was like no, but I'm just
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  Speaker 1: fully aware that they hear it. My daughter wrote me
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  Speaker 1: and was like that, I didn't, you know, I never
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  Speaker 1: I don't send I maybe send her music, but I
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  Speaker 1: don't send the three boys music, you know. I just
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  Speaker 1: I let them discover it if they want.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not there. I don't want to push my music
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  Speaker 4: on them. I'm their dad, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 1: It's like, I think it's a bit awkward, but I
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  Speaker 1: do like it when their friends think fucking bad, it's cool.
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  Speaker 1: We took my you know, my son's Yeah, my son's
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  Speaker 1: friend came to a show the other day.
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  Speaker 4: It's just people who are into it.
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  Speaker 1: And I like that because I imagine the opposite of like,
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  Speaker 1: you know, he's trying to convince them of the early records.
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  Speaker 4: Were they're really good? No, no, but they were really
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  Speaker 4: great ones.
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  Speaker 2: You mentioned that the album talks about vulnerability, but it
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  Speaker 2: also deals with men's mental health issues, which is a
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  Speaker 2: very important thing in this day and age. But he
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  Speaker 2: spoke before about how people come up to you and
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  Speaker 2: said how your music changed your life and how it's
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  Speaker 2: helped them.
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  Speaker 3: But how how important is.
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  Speaker 2: Music and albums? Like I've been loneliness in the overall
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  Speaker 2: scheme of things to let people know. I guess that
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  Speaker 2: it's okay not to be okay.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah exactly.
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  Speaker 1: I mean I don't want to sort of talk out
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  Speaker 1: eternal kind of in such an important subject. They'll all
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  Speaker 1: say that the too much about the record. People either
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  Speaker 1: connects or not with music. You know, it's like magnetic,
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  Speaker 1: It's really simple. It's either gonna like we're gonna vibe
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  Speaker 1: and like you know, you know, fucking get ripped and
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  Speaker 1: just sit there and let me sit in your headphones
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  Speaker 1: and just like you listen to what I got to say.
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  Speaker 1: Oh you're going to fight me, don't fight me. But
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  Speaker 1: it's just good to like mean something and to have
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  Speaker 1: a genesis of of thought about it that is that
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  Speaker 1: it's really there too.
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  Speaker 4: You know.
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  Speaker 1: I'm that I wrote the lyric I'm here to save
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  Speaker 1: your life. Someone said that to me when I met them,
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  Speaker 1: you know, thank you for saving my life. And I
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  Speaker 1: was like I had this sort of tug of war
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  Speaker 1: about it. I was like, sweetheart, you played the music
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  Speaker 1: that I wrote, and I'm so happy. That's the biggest
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  Speaker 1: compliment ever. But clearly you saved your life because.
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  Speaker 4: I wasn't there. You know what I mean, I wasn't there.
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to like, but I'll take the soundtrack,
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  Speaker 1: so if I'm the soundtrack.
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  Speaker 4: I just had that lyric, I do have that word.
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  Speaker 1: When she said that to me, that matter I wrote down,
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  Speaker 1: I'm here to save your life. I just thought, what
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  Speaker 1: is my meaning of my life? I'm reaching the point
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  Speaker 1: where I get a bit not weepy about myself, but
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  Speaker 1: I need some perspective on who I am? What is
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  Speaker 1: the meaning of my life? When I did I am
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  Speaker 1: I getting the most out of it. I'm really being
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  Speaker 1: honorable and interesting and my adding value. Like I've always
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  Speaker 1: been obsessed about adding value to this world, not taking
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  Speaker 1: it away. I was a real thief between the age
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  Speaker 1: of twelve and fourteen. I was a major thief. Like
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  Speaker 1: I shoplifted for two years straight, stole everything. I was
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  Speaker 1: like a really good thief. Ended the last of Christmas
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  Speaker 1: where I've robbed a whole department store, but a bunch
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  Speaker 1: of things as people would leave for my to get
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  Speaker 1: my dad and my.
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  Speaker 4: Sister Christmas gifts. I was terrible. I never got caught too,
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  Speaker 4: no status invitations made fucking so no.
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  Speaker 1: But since that point, I literally have I can't take
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  Speaker 1: a pencil from a from a from a hotel room.
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  Speaker 1: I cannot steal. I can't steal. I'll never steal. And uh,
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  Speaker 1: you know, it's a funny thing that I've just always
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  Speaker 1: been obsessed about wanting to give because I always had
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  Speaker 1: this really simple idea that if everyone was not shitty,
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  Speaker 1: the world would be great.
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  Speaker 4: It's just like.
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  Speaker 1: It, you know, like I'm just here. I'm here for
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  Speaker 1: a good time to make music. I love and look
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  Speaker 1: after my people, you know, I really am. And yet
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  Speaker 1: still things are difficult because life is difficult. But I
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  Speaker 1: just I just lament that we have to deal with
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  Speaker 1: so many shit people all the time that that are
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  Speaker 1: not good. That it's a drag because everyone thought like
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  Speaker 1: this it would be a.
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  Speaker 3: Much wouldn't it.
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  Speaker 2: How about you personally, may like us writing recording and
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  Speaker 2: releasing this album a noticeable effect on you, like has
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  Speaker 2: had helped with any issues you are going through?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know it helps my fucking kids that like
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  Speaker 1: they're fucking so expensive.
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  Speaker 4: You know, it.
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  Speaker 1: Just allows me to work, you know, it means I
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  Speaker 1: can I have a work of value to tour.
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  Speaker 4: I'm just a fucking touring musician. You know.
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  Speaker 1: If I have a great record, I have a much
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  Speaker 1: better tour than if have a shitty record. So I
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  Speaker 1: just always want to do everything really well. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I'm fucking around, but I want to do everything really well.
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  Speaker 1: And life is short. So I love the idea of
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  Speaker 1: making a great record.
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  Speaker 3: Fair enough.
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  Speaker 2: Now, I listen through the record before this made, and
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  Speaker 2: it's a great, great album by the way, but every
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  Speaker 2: song sort of stands out on its own merits.
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  Speaker 3: So why did you choose to open with the song Scars?
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  Speaker 3: Was there a specific reason?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, because it's so unusual and it's it's so I
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  Speaker 1: was really inspired, you know, I was really inspired by TikTok.
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  Speaker 1: I was really inspired by one quality that it was
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  Speaker 1: is the rebirth of melody. You know, everyone's like annoyed
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  Speaker 1: about the obviously the short term of it, the quick
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  Speaker 1: fix of it is a nightmare, and there's mostly everything's
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  Speaker 1: wrong about it right, But for me, as a songwriter,
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  Speaker 1: what I notice is that God, you hear the best
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  Speaker 1: melodies and they don't need much. It's just a little
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  Speaker 1: bit of a bit of an air and there's fucking melodies,
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  Speaker 1: and so I just I still do be anthemic.
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  Speaker 4: So there's this sort of a world.
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  Speaker 1: And I was getting some equipment in and you know,
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  Speaker 1: I'm engineering myself for the first part. When I'm right,
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  Speaker 1: I engineer myself up to the point I do my vocals,
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  Speaker 1: I put the songs all together.
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  Speaker 4: I going to you know, get it going. I get
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  Speaker 4: all the sounds.
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  Speaker 1: I can record my guitars, my bass, drums, everything. I
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  Speaker 1: don't do my vocals because I don't want to. Being
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  Speaker 1: a one man band isn't ridiculous. I have a great
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  Speaker 1: engineer who then comes in. But when I was just
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  Speaker 1: getting some studio stuff, I was working with some drums
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  Speaker 1: and I think I kind of made a mistake. I've
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  Speaker 1: put them through one processor incorrectly, very bright eno of me,
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  Speaker 1: you know, no manual, just like what was this one due?
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  Speaker 1: So I had those drums, I had those drums, and
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  Speaker 1: I just was like, this is it? This is And
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  Speaker 1: then I could just put this like a little backing
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  Speaker 1: and then just do a sort of what would you
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  Speaker 1: say to someone, what's on your mind? What's in the mirror?
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  Speaker 1: Who do you see, who do you love? Are you willing?
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  Speaker 1: Are you able to let yourself shine on through?
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  Speaker 4: You know?
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  Speaker 1: It's like I just was like, what would you say
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  Speaker 1: to someone, you know what I mean, Tell me all
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  Speaker 1: your paranoise, tell me what hurts the most. I'm sorry
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  Speaker 1: for the fault lines, sorry for the sea of ghosts,
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  Speaker 1: because you know, we will bring ghosts.
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  Speaker 4: With us everybody when we're with someone new.
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  Speaker 1: Right, So that's just me having a conversation with someone
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  Speaker 1: idealistically openly, you know, like, and that's what it was.
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  Speaker 1: And because it was on that on that sort of
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  Speaker 1: very kind of tribal kind of rhythmic thing, I didn't
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  Speaker 1: want anything in it. And actually when I sat in
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  Speaker 1: the studios, finally sat in the back of the studio, right,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm just thinking, there's the producer and the band,
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  Speaker 1: and two things I was thinking, First off, please don't
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  Speaker 1: cut it, don't edit it right.
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  Speaker 4: Secondly, I think, and please don't play on it, to
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  Speaker 4: leave it, leave it there. Yeah. I was like I
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  Speaker 4: was just really like just ready.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, outwardly looked like I was being open,
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  Speaker 1: but on the inside, I was like really thinking, please,
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  Speaker 1: don't plan on it.
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  Speaker 3: You gotta let You've got to let them break.
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  Speaker 1: So when I drove home from the studio and they
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  Speaker 1: hadn't hadn't been touched, it was like, you know this
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  Speaker 1: when it comes in there's some great stuff that you
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  Speaker 1: know people are doing.
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  Speaker 4: But it was funny like so it was just like,
• 17:29
  Speaker 4: I mean, I was ready to fight. I was ready to.
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: I did nothing.
• 17:34
  Speaker 4: I wasn't. I wasn't gonna take it lightly, but I
• 17:38
  Speaker 4: had I was really calm, you know.
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: It was just like it wor good anyway.
• 17:45
  Speaker 4: That's what it came about.
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: No, you're not sure at the moment, Brian.
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: I know you're a very busy man, but what's the
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: chances of you making it over this story of the world.
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: Have you had talks?
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that there's there's two major conversations going
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: on about February and March.
• 18:03
  Speaker 4: So from my perspective, I always want to come down.
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: There's it's exotic and I love Cleveland, I love you know,
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: but sometimes you want to come to Australia some I
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: want to, like you know what I mean, And if
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: we tie it right, it'd be like it'd be you know,
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: brilliant down there, so it's exotic and it's it's it's
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: really familiar because I'm English, so it's super familiar, you know.
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: I mean, but that the weather's.
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: Fucking great, fantastic food, great nightlife, fucking everyone's up for it.
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: And so I's like it's pretty simple.
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: I mean, I've got to stop going away so much
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: because it's getting a bit silly.
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: But that is on the cards, of course, yeah, of
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: course no.
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: So before I let you go go but I've started
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: a new thing up called photo bomb. So basically before
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: we chat, I've gone through social media. I've found a
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: few fighters I want to know a little bit more
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: about now to start with this one, Like I've seen
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: a lot of people serenaded by guitarists before, but.
• 19:08
  Speaker 3: What was Christopher serenading their horse on this one?
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: Well, first off, what a handsome man. Come on?
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: Of course, God deny that.
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: So that is that's his horse. I'm not sure which
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: one that is. It could be Pie.
• 19:29
  Speaker 5: And he's got this alternate life as a cowboy, very
• 19:34
  Speaker 5: traditionally going up on some plains in northern California and
• 19:38
  Speaker 5: cattle driving with as a ranch hand.
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: It's kind of amazing. He's found it as this whole
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: new lease of life. So it's a very that is
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: just his evolution.
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: It's beautiful fighter, beautiful fight is.
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: Incredible photograph, is it? He's an incredible like, he's just
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: so I love him so much.
• 20:01
  Speaker 4: He's just such.
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: A wild, crazy individual. I'm very very lucky to have him.
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm very lucky to have my band that ship,
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: the White Hot.
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: It is brilliant. It is so good and they allow
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: me to just.
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: Be my federal self and they support me really really well.
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: You know, they're really fantastic, fantastic bandmates.
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: No, it's the last one about fan point mate is
• 20:33
  Speaker 3: It's a very touching moment. But where about sire? It
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: looks bloody cold?
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: Oh my god, that's a great picture. Was that? Is
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: that Niagara Falls? Is that Niagara Falls? Yeah? Niagara Falls.
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: That's a great pictures.
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: Were almost although we're recreating Titanic, it sounds like the
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: Kate winslet and we're like, you know, fighting over baselines.
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: It's a beautiful fighter. It looks funny cold.
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: But.
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well you know what, I'm a fucking idiot for
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: the ice baths we do. I do our ice bath
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: every day now, it's just mad. I don't know why
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: I'm doing this. I'm just like an idiot looking at
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: the Instagram like everyone else and like the things. Really
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: I do feel good after it. They're amazing. I'm being facetious,
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: but I do them. Do them after the shows, Me,
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: Nick and Corey, we all do them. I have an
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: ice bath in my one. It's got a new one
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: that's really nice. I think costs one hundred bucks, but
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: it's more of a tub. Right after the show's thirty
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: one forty one degrees three minutes, three.
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: To five minutes. Bosh, but I'm not going that water that.
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: It's cold going all right, Roll, thanks for your time.
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: Man's been a pleasure speaking with you.
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: I beat lonliness is out now as to the crack
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: of an album mate, and thanks for your time. We'll
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: see you sooner rather later, hopefully.
• 22:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah, be well mhm