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💎 Dave Bartoo Unfiltered: Auburn's Ceiling, Texas Longhorns' Staffing & What's Next in the SEC 🏈 · Out of Bounds with Bo Bounds

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  Speaker 4: Dave is on one oh five nine The Zone EESPN,
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  Speaker 4: Mississippi State and Ole Miss play Auburn and Texas and
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  Speaker 4: Florida maybe one other team Jackson and so we really
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  Speaker 4: want to hit on those teams because of the crossover.
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  Speaker 4: We do that every year. But the fact that both
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  Speaker 4: of them take on the Auburn Tigers, and they've been
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  Speaker 4: playing Auburn forever and didn't play them last year, which
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  Speaker 4: is I don't know when the last time that happened,
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  Speaker 4: But playing them this year, here we go. Old miss
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  Speaker 4: will play Auburn and Mississippi State will play Auburn. Dimond Dave,
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  Speaker 4: Good morning, sunshine.
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  Speaker 2: What's happening, dude, tinker Bell? How's it going, sweetheart?
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  Speaker 3: Well? I'm good, Yeah, I am man.
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  Speaker 4: Summer's summer's going well? And are you having a good summer?
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  Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, oh yeah. Well, at this point right now, though,
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  Speaker 2: we're in the uh In matrix manner. Everybody's a teacher
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  Speaker 2: over here on this side of the my universe, so
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  Speaker 2: we're counting down the days for school to get out.
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  Speaker 2: So we're not quite not quite there, okay, right there,
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  Speaker 2: but pretty close.
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  Speaker 4: So okays are so here, they've been out for a
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  Speaker 4: couple of weeks, and and so y'all are on a
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  Speaker 4: little bit later schedule.
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  Speaker 3: So you got a week or two or something.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, there's there's a couple more weeks now, I will say.
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  Speaker 2: Right now, sitting on my deck, it is fifty three
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  Speaker 2: with less than ten percent humidity and no bug in
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  Speaker 2: the heydays and seventy two.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, that's beautiful.
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  Speaker 4: We it's been hot as hell here and then we
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  Speaker 4: had a storm come through and took it down to
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  Speaker 4: about eighty four and cut the humidity. So we've got
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  Speaker 4: a little bit of goodness going for us. And but
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  Speaker 4: good lord, it kicked in last week, but the storm
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  Speaker 4: kind of took it away for a second. All right,
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  Speaker 4: let's uh, let's talk Auburn football State and Ole Miss
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  Speaker 4: both play them.
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  Speaker 3: Alex Gold, all right, so they decided to move. Let's
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  Speaker 3: let's walk.
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  Speaker 4: Through this and then I'm gonna kind of get your thoughts.
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  Speaker 4: We'll ease into it and go over. We've got plenty
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  Speaker 4: of time. Hugh Freeze was there for three years and
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  Speaker 4: they were really close, and they just couldn't turn the corner.
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  Speaker 4: DJ Durkin did a hell of a job on d
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  Speaker 4: last thing I thought would happen is Hugh not getting
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  Speaker 4: the offense tuned up.
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  Speaker 3: They recruited well blah blah blah.
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  Speaker 4: So they hire Alex Golish from South Florida and they
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  Speaker 4: return Pa DJ Durkin. But this is a program between
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  Speaker 4: Bron Harson and Freeze.
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  Speaker 3: They haven't won in a while. Part two.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, No, No, they haven't won much at all, And
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  Speaker 2: I agree with you. I mean, last year they lost
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  Speaker 2: what five games by a drive, I mean it was
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  Speaker 2: it was pretty tight and and I think it was
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  Speaker 2: only year three of freeze. And I agree Durkins defense
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  Speaker 2: was extremely good. That was kind of a difficult thing
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  Speaker 2: for the SEC last year. When you had good defense,
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  Speaker 2: you had no offense. When you had the offense, you
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  Speaker 2: had no defense. You know, Oklahoma had no offense, Auburn
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  Speaker 2: had no offense, LSU had no offense. And those are
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  Speaker 2: basically your three best defenses outside of Georgia. So with Auburn, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: and they retained Durkin. I think that's the biggest, biggest
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  Speaker 2: piece of the puzzle, right is because they bring in
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  Speaker 2: Goalsh and then the routine DJ Dirk And now you
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  Speaker 2: and I both know DJ's former head coach, and you
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  Speaker 2: and I both know that all former head coaches are
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  Speaker 2: always working to do one thing, become a head coach again.
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  Speaker 2: So if there's you know, you want to talk about
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  Speaker 2: like outside the edge, you know, the intangibles off the field,
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  Speaker 2: I think the soap opera that could happen at Auburn
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  Speaker 2: has excellent potential because we see this blow up all
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  Speaker 2: the time across college football. Right by the end of September,
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  Speaker 2: just relationships aren't working out, and then things happen in
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  Speaker 2: college football, and most often we see this with veteran
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  Speaker 2: coaches in this kind of situation. So I'm curious to see,
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  Speaker 2: very very curious to see how well DJ is able
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  Speaker 2: to come back, bounce back this year with his defense,
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  Speaker 2: and how the long term dynamics of DJ and Alex
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  Speaker 2: work out at Auburn because I've been around enough. I've
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  Speaker 2: been around you enough to know that in the sec
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  Speaker 2: at least what you and about every fan I've ever
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  Speaker 2: talked you said, if there's going to be drama in
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  Speaker 2: a soap opera, it's going to be at Auburn.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, no doubt they Here's the way I frame it
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  Speaker 4: up because, as you know, Bar two, it's a border state,
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  Speaker 4: and we've been over to Tuscaloose and Auburn many times
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  Speaker 4: and blah blah and have the kids.
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  Speaker 3: Go over there. And so my daughter almost went to Auburn.
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  Speaker 3: And so.
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  Speaker 4: Here's what the reason why I'll steal from the reason
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  Speaker 4: why they're lines and Tigers and crazy pills is because
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  Speaker 4: of Bama's winning since Bear Bryant got there in nineteen
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  Speaker 4: fifty eight, and I know they've had some ups and downs,
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  Speaker 4: but Bryant, Stallings, and Saban all won national championships blah
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  Speaker 4: blah blah.
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  Speaker 3: And that has driven them now.
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  Speaker 4: It's also driven them to be super good at times
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  Speaker 4: and competitive and a fortune and all that. But that's
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  Speaker 4: what's driven them crazy. Is Bama in the in a
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  Speaker 4: small state winning big bar two.
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  Speaker 3: That's my y.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, I mean if if that, if that program
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  Speaker 2: has a lean towards drama, then I think the dominoes
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  Speaker 2: are stocked up quite interestingly for further drama and down
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  Speaker 2: on the planes in twenty twenty six, which I know
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  Speaker 2: that you and every other non Auburn fan wouldn't mind seeing.
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  Speaker 4: Well, look, Ole Miss and Mississippi State host Auburn. All right,
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  Speaker 4: so Auburn has to go. Ole Miss has a better team.
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  Speaker 4: We all know that than all three. But out of
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  Speaker 4: the three, but Ole Miss will host Auburn and Mississippi
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  Speaker 4: State will host Auburn. What are you just give me
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  Speaker 4: a minute and a half before we take a break.
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  Speaker 4: Two minutes on your thoughts on Alex Golish's as a
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  Speaker 4: head coach at Southolk.
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  Speaker 2: So so anyways, I spent the better part of a
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  Speaker 2: couple of months utilizing three different AI networks profiling Alex
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  Speaker 2: Kulsh and trying to find what made him tick and
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  Speaker 2: what's interesting. And he's been he was at South Florida
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  Speaker 2: for thirty six games. And yes, Pete, yes, Jeff, I
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  Speaker 2: will give you the secret. Just give me a call.
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  Speaker 2: His drive sequencing. When he has a specific drive if
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  Speaker 2: he's able to execute a specific drive sequencing, he's eighteen
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  Speaker 2: and l When the defense stops it, he's own fifteen. Wow,
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  Speaker 2: that's how that's how predictable this guy is. He has
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  Speaker 2: a certain drive sequence that if he's able to pull
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  Speaker 2: it off, he is eighteen and oh at South Florida.
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  Speaker 2: If it stopped, if he can't do it, he is
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  Speaker 2: zero to fifteen. So, like I said, you know, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: so now when you when you look at that, think
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  Speaker 2: about that in fifteen right, So that's that's thirty three
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  Speaker 2: or thirty six games. So he's just over five hundred
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  Speaker 2: when he is able to pull off what I see
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  Speaker 2: as his preferred drive sequencing in football. Okay, it's only
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  Speaker 2: fifty four percent. So just looking at that and without
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  Speaker 2: looking at the schedule, now I can go, Okay, this
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  Speaker 2: is a five hundred coach at Aubury, right, that's kind
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  Speaker 2: of my starting point. I'm not saying that's where this
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  Speaker 2: schedule is going to end, because the schedules actually looks
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  Speaker 2: pretty favorable from an Auburn point of view. But then
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  Speaker 2: what I started doing is late last night, I stayed
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  Speaker 2: up and I started looking at the defensive coordinators of
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  Speaker 2: all of the teams on their schedule to see who's
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  Speaker 2: best at stopping that sequencing. And we're going to get
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  Speaker 2: into this schedule and see, I'm just going to walk
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna use that sequencing to profile what an Auburn
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  Speaker 2: record might look like this year. Okay, I think he's
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  Speaker 2: highly predictable.
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  Speaker 4: I love it, all right, Dave bar two Matrix Analytical.
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  Speaker 4: We're previewing the Auburn Tigers. They are ready to win, Okay,
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  Speaker 4: I mean, good grief. Chiswick went undefeated. Tuberville went undefeated
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  Speaker 4: in the two thousands. They played for two national championships
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  Speaker 4: one to one. Tumberville should have had a shot in
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  Speaker 4: two thousand and four. Three whatever in the hell, it
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  Speaker 4: was all right, So bar two's gonna start walking us
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  Speaker 4: through again. Ole Miss and Mississippi State will host Auburn.
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  Speaker 4: They have it won and since Malson left, which bar
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  Speaker 4: two jumped on the show when they let him go
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  Speaker 4: and said, dom mistake. More profiling Auburn and talking dogs
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  Speaker 4: want to go over the goalish thing one more time,
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  Speaker 4: the eighteen and oh and oh and fifteen and then
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so so real quick goalshit at South South Florida
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  Speaker 2: regular season. He had he had thirty six games and
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  Speaker 2: then I threw out the FCS games obviously, and so
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  Speaker 2: it boiled down to has been boiled down to thirty
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  Speaker 2: three games. And so I took every play by play
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  Speaker 2: that he had at South Florida and ran it through
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  Speaker 2: sequencing on three different AI models for nearly two months,
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  Speaker 2: and it finally boiled him down to a specific drive sequencing,
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  Speaker 2: you know, like game planning. And when he was able
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  Speaker 2: to execute it, he was eighteen and oh when the
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  Speaker 2: defense stopped it, he was oh and fifteen, which is
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  Speaker 2: which is which is pretty astounding, is pretty astounding. But
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  Speaker 2: I'm finding other numbers like that. You know, I did
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  Speaker 2: it with Kirby, and I did it with Lane, and
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  Speaker 2: you know, I'm doing it for actually the entire SEC,
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  Speaker 2: one team at a time, because it turns out that
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  Speaker 2: these defensive coordinator a head coaches will pay for knowledge
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  Speaker 2: and details go figure both. So so I already got
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  Speaker 2: one SEC team on board that's paying for the sequencing.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm just gonna keep going team by team. But
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  Speaker 2: what we can do is we can break down Alex
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  Speaker 2: and Auburn. I expect him to try to roll that
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  Speaker 2: sequencing out because it's what it's made him successful. So
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  Speaker 2: I'm looking at defensive coordinators. So the first game week
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  Speaker 2: won Baylor. Okay, I've already looked at that defensive alignment
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  Speaker 2: and how they try to break his sequencing. They're successful
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  Speaker 2: about forty seven percent of the time. So you got
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  Speaker 2: Alex successful at fifty four or Baylor at forty seven.
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  Speaker 2: I slightly lean Auburn to win that football game, but
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  Speaker 2: I think it's going to be a whole lot closer,
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  Speaker 2: maybe than a lot of people think.
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  Speaker 4: Dave Randa, who is a defensive specialist, is still at Baylor.
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  Speaker 4: He's been able to hang on by a thread. He
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  Speaker 4: was fantastic as a d C. Baylor tough place to win.
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  Speaker 4: I think that's what bar two's referencing. They'll play on
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  Speaker 4: a neutral field in somewhat not really, but in Atlanta,
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  Speaker 4: hour and a half away from Auburn, and that's what
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  Speaker 4: bar two is referencing there.
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  Speaker 3: So all right, So how did that compare?
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  Speaker 4: You mentioned Goalish and running his numbers and when he
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  Speaker 4: was able to run his drive sequence, he was eighteen
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  Speaker 4: and zero at South Florida, when he wasn't he was
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  Speaker 4: zero to fifteen.
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  Speaker 3: You mentioned you ran the numbers on lane. What did
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  Speaker 3: you come up with, Bar two?
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  Speaker 2: Well, Lane I was able to do his numbers at
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  Speaker 2: FAU and Old Miss Lane is interesting. Lane is sixty
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  Speaker 2: one and one when he's able to make his drive
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  Speaker 2: sequencing happen. Wow, Yeah, he is lights out. And I
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  Speaker 2: think that goes back to the offensive coordinator in him, right,
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  Speaker 2: how well can he execute his specific game plan and
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  Speaker 2: when he can sixty one and one across FAU to
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  Speaker 2: Ole Miss, So you know, now that doesn't account for talent.
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  Speaker 2: Now he's going to LSU, which is more talented year
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  Speaker 2: over year, and so now can he execute that at
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  Speaker 2: a higher level? And I'm sure people listen and say, well,
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  Speaker 2: what about goalshes His talent at Auburn is going to
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  Speaker 2: be significantly better than at South Florida, But how much
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  Speaker 2: better is it relative to the rest of the conference
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  Speaker 2: that he had? You know? So, but you know it, Lane,
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  Speaker 2: Lane was pretty good at it. So it'll be interesting
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  Speaker 2: to see how this plays out going forward, especially with LSU.
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  Speaker 2: But that's one of the big reasons why I say
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  Speaker 2: they're a national contender right out of the gate is
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  Speaker 2: simply his ability to have the players and get that
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  Speaker 2: sequencing in place, and almost more specifically as having that
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  Speaker 2: number thirteen scoring efficiency, defense and staff back. I think
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  Speaker 2: that's a big deal as well.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought about you. A couple of weeks ago.
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  Speaker 4: We dropped some of Lane's audio and he was talking about, Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: That's basically all we do.
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  Speaker 4: He is just a walking content generator for us. But
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  Speaker 4: he mentioned playing that first game and how it had
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  Speaker 4: bit Kelly and oseron at the end of his deal
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  Speaker 4: by them scheduling the way they have, and he mentioned,
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  Speaker 4: you know, they didn't do that at Ole Miss and
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  Speaker 4: they didn't start with tough game.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I expect them to be Clemson, but you
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  Speaker 3: don't ever know.
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  Speaker 4: But he he sounded like you and I thought because
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  Speaker 4: he didn't want to play that game and there, I
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  Speaker 4: don't think they're going to play a game like that
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  Speaker 4: as soon as they can get out of however long
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  Speaker 4: they've they've scheduled, and and I know y'all had communication
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  Speaker 4: over the years, but I mean, Lane was just he
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  Speaker 4: just ripped the band aid off Bart too. It was like, basically,
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  Speaker 4: you don't need to play a power for tough opponent
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  Speaker 4: Game one, you need to play like loman Roe.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it was. And it's funny that he's at LSU.
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  Speaker 2: That was that was you got time from the first
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  Speaker 2: side story I ever had for college football. Yeah, okay,
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  Speaker 2: so it actually involved LSU and I was on spring break. Uh.
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  Speaker 2: And I was at my mom and dad's house and
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  Speaker 2: they lived on one side of the river and the
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  Speaker 2: supermarket was on the other side of the river. Walk
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  Speaker 2: cross the bridge, and the only way you could get
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  Speaker 2: cell phone service was going across the bridge. So I
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  Speaker 2: got up and I was like, oh man, I'm already
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  Speaker 2: out of line for Gin and Tonic. So I went
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  Speaker 2: on a supermarket that morning, and I was coming back
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  Speaker 2: and my phone rang because I was able to get
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  Speaker 2: service coming across the bridge. And I'm on the middle
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  Speaker 2: of this walking bridge over the Columbia River, and the
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  Speaker 2: phone rings and up the Nashville number. I was like, huh,
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  Speaker 2: I pick it up and it's James Franklin with the
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  Speaker 2: coaching staff and the AD talking about scheduling. Dross me
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  Speaker 2: right now. He's like, you know the guy. The guy
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  Speaker 2: asked me if I had time for a conference call.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like sure, and I'm standing on the river holding
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  Speaker 2: back a line probably some extra Tonic and Bang. But
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  Speaker 2: what was happening is James had been listening to what
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  Speaker 2: I was saying about scheduling and the ad wanted a
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  Speaker 2: home and home with LSU and I and my thing
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  Speaker 2: was absolutely not. You got a new head coach here.
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  Speaker 2: You're trying to recover from sanctions. You just you got
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  Speaker 2: rid of Bill O'Brien. I said that one loss, you
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  Speaker 2: are almost guaranteeing yourself at this point, a loss home
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  Speaker 2: and home loss with LSU at this point, so that
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  Speaker 2: loss may keep you at looking forward to your schedule.
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  Speaker 2: That may make an eight and four team nine to three.
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  Speaker 2: If you schedule a cupcake now you're in the top
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  Speaker 2: twenty five. And so I went through my whole thing
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  Speaker 2: just like I was on your show, right and hung
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  Speaker 2: up the phone. A week later, Syracuse booked that home
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  Speaker 2: and Home with LSU. Oh, Penn State passed, and the
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  Speaker 2: year they were going to play LSU on the road,
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  Speaker 2: they went nine and three and they were in the
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  Speaker 2: top twenty five. Bam and boom, they were back on
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  Speaker 2: the map. And so that was I'd like to think
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  Speaker 2: that was my big trust building with James at that time,
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: to be able to take that call right there and
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  Speaker 2: be able to walk through it succinctly and then have
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  Speaker 2: it play out that way, because that's what the odds
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  Speaker 2: would say, you and I would agree that would have
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  Speaker 2: been the right move. And so long, really long story short.
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  Speaker 2: That's what Laane is saying. Right, It's like, we don't
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  Speaker 2: need to generate big wins because here's the thing. Look
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  Speaker 2: at all these big games in week one, week two,
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  Speaker 2: week three, most of them end up being does right,
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  Speaker 2: you don't know how good Clemson's gonna be, especially with
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: Chad Morris. The last time he left, that offense.
• 20:28
  Speaker 5: Was trash trash when he left Clemson, right, everybody's like,
• 20:35
  Speaker 5: oh man, Chad Morris was a stepping stone up for
• 20:38
  Speaker 5: those national championship brands BS. They took him a whole
• 20:42
  Speaker 5: year to rebuild that. That cratered it.
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: So, you know, I agree with Lane. You know something.
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: It's it's fun to have those games, but it's not
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: worthwhile in my opinion when you look at the entire
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: way people view a team, especially with wins losses.
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  Speaker 2: Look BYU is hard to profile because they got so
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: many twenty nine year olds that are married with kids
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: on that team. Uh.
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: We dropped that earlier in the show. We're Live in
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  Speaker 3: the Back. We were talking Taysom Hill. That was it.
• 22:38
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• 22:46
  Speaker 4: The Zone. We're talking Alex Golish and Auburn. But what's
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: great is we can mix in everybody that they're playing
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: and some of the other trends and you know, nuggets
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: and tidbits that bar two picks up as far as Uh,
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: some of the teams finding an edge are not finding
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: an edge, and it's crazy that people don't want to
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: look to find an edge. In sports, considering how many
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: of these games go down to the wire. But Diamond
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: Dave talking and you know Auburn has not won. Gus
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: Malzon bar two said this. I hate giving him credit,
• 23:25
  Speaker 4: but he said this for years. He was like, they
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: don't appreciate it. And and Malson was there during Saban's
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: dynasty and yet he beat him what three times went
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: to a national championship game? You know, all that kind
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: of stuff was the OC when they won the national
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: championship game and then drove them.
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: To a title game.
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: If you bar two, as you look at Alex Golish
• 23:50
  Speaker 4: and Auburn and and again Ole miss and Mississippi State
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: will uh, well we'll play at home. They'll they'll both
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: host Auburn and Alex Golish. What would you I think
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: you already said it, but.
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: I want to go over it again.
• 24:02
  Speaker 4: What would you say the ceiling will be for for
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: Alex Golish at Auburn According to the numbers that you've
• 24:11
  Speaker 4: looked at.
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: Let's go through two of them real quick. This will
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: be thirty seconds piece right. Uh. If we go from
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: a talent standpoint alone, we got win win, lose to
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: Florida beat Vanderbilt or three and one loss loss loss?
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: What do you say, Old Miss is the loss? It's
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: that Ole Miss? Yeah, all right, so we got we've
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: got three ws home against Arkansas, four WS Mississippi State,
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: five w's and then they must have my numbers. Don't
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: pull the FCS team. They must have a do they
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: still have a little uh yeah uh sansarking bag there
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: and there? Yeah. Yeah. So so from a talent standpoint,
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: you know, you're you're yeah, then at Bama, which you know, no,
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: you know, so so we're looking we're looking about six
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: and six, all right. That that that that's where we're at.
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: You know, your your your coin flips that we always
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: talk about. I think week three at home against Florida,
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: I believe that's that's a home game, correct, that is
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: that's a critical one. And certainly home against Arkansas. You
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: got those those are those are your two If you're
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: going to get to seven and five, I think you
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: got to win both of those. But that run of Tennessee, Georgia,
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: l s U Ole Miss, Arkansas and then Arkansas is
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: a super trap game because guess what you're going, Well, no,
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: it's not a super trap game because that's not old
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: missing in that one. So yeah, it is. I think
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: seven and five by the talent is the peak. And
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: then you start looking at the drive generation and who's
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: going to stop him. Baylor should be a win than
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: Miss should be a win. But see summer All's history
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: in four seasons, he has a near seventy percent chance
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: of stopping that drive sequence. That's kind of defensive coordinator
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: him and bred White are, so you know, I think
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: they're against the eight ball on that one. Vanderbilt, Yeah,
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: there's there's a third win. You got to have that.
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: So I think they have to be three and one
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: coming out of September. They have to anything less than that.
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: And now you're looking at three four wins. Hypel stopping
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: rate on the sequencing nearly seventy percent, Georgia eighty two percent,
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: Lane and Blake Baker seventy seventy six percent. I mean
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: that's just loft loft lost, lost loss, right now you
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: get Now you get to Pete Golding and Ole Miss.
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: It's at Ole Miss that hurts. But we don't know
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: who Pete is, right, So I'll coin flip that one
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: right now. But from a talent stand, pretty even coaching standpoint. Again,
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: we know what Pete Golding is as a d C.
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: We don't know what you know. We don't know what
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: he is as a head coach. And then Arkansas he
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: got Silverfield. He'll stop the sequencing his defensive Memphis this
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: specific sequencing about fifty percent of the time, So there's
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: a coin flip, Jeff, He's got a new defensive coordinator,
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: but previously his stop rate on sequencing was eighteen percent.
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: So so you know what can Zack do to change
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: those numbers? That that's a that's a really big question
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: there because I can't answer that unless I go back
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: to Zach's sequencing with Mississippi State with Mike, which I
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: haven't done, and then no on Alabama. So all the
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: numbers to me point to a six to seven win ceiling.
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: Has the total come out? I bet the total is
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: like six or five and a half. If the total's out.
• 27:59
  Speaker 4: Yet, Jackson's got it. I think at four and a half.
• 28:03
  Speaker 4: But you mentioned six and six, seven and five. We're
• 28:06
  Speaker 4: visiting with Diamond Dave bar two Matrix Analytical with the
• 28:10
  Speaker 4: extra conference game, non conference games in the Baylor game,
• 28:15
  Speaker 4: and everybody else pulls a mandated Power four game. You
• 28:18
  Speaker 4: wouldn't be surprised if he goes five and seven though, right.
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: Bar two, Oh no, if he gets off to a
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: bad start. Right you got Baylor, Like I said, that's
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: coin flip. You can lose that. You can't lose the
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: Southern Miss game. You cannot, right, I think you and
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: I would agree. You can't be losing the Southern Miss game. Florida.
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: No surprise, Vanderbilt. I think we're getting the first two
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: years of Vanderbilt now the pave is gone. Yeah, but again,
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: if you just go off of the quality of Vanderbilt
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: last year and believe that's going to return this year
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: to a lesser level but still very good, it's gonna
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: lose that game too, right, So and then you go
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: right down the list all the way until you get
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: to Arkansas, Mississippi State and the Cupcake right in the
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: FCS game. So yeah, it could be. Man, I'd hate
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: to see one and three at the end of September.
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: But on the downside, you know you're looking at two
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: and ten team.
• 29:25
  Speaker 3: I think, damn.
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: Bar two talking Auburn football, mixing in Ole Miss, Mississippi
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: State and some other teams, which is great.
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: Total is four and a half.
• 29:36
  Speaker 4: Okay, so for the for the Auburn Tigers, for our listeners,
• 29:40
  Speaker 4: if you're just now joining us, Bar two has come
• 29:43
  Speaker 4: up with this drive sequence rate. And when goal is
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: hit his drive sequence at South Florida, they were eighteen
• 29:54
  Speaker 4: and oh.
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: When he didn't, they were oh and fifteen.
• 29:59
  Speaker 4: And they I've got a nice schedule to start with
• 30:01
  Speaker 4: Baylor and Southern Miss.
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: But then, as bar two said, it gets serious.
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: I want to go back because Auburn plays Baylor in Atlanta,
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: Southern Miss at home, and then Florida at home.
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: Are some are all?
• 30:14
  Speaker 4: Are Somemmer All and John White? Brad White? Excuse me, yea,
• 30:18
  Speaker 4: some are all and bradwe so some are. Al's the
• 30:21
  Speaker 4: head coach at Florida but a defensive specialist. Brad White
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: was incredible at Kentucky and now is the DC at Florida.
• 30:28
  Speaker 4: Are they the best defensive coaching duo in the league
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: right now?
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: Bar two?
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: Oh no, no, no, because where does kerber Smart coach at?
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: Is it still at Georgia? Yep? I don't care where
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: that man goes. That's the best defense of mine and
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: college football, Okay, right, I mean, just let you know
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: I'll just be straight up with it. That is the
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: best defensive mine in college football in the last fifteen years.
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: If you take the top twenty five scoring efficiency, defense
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: is the last fifteen years. Kirby was the head coach
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: or in charge of the defense for nine of the
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: twenty five. Wow, he is a bad man when it
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: comes down to defense. I do believe he is the
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: most brilliant defensive coordinator maybe of this quarter century. But certainly,
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: you know, if you said the best, you know, if
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: it's it's Bo Bouns and Kirby Smart, I'm taking Bo
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: Bownce and Kirby Smart. So you know you got Glenn
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: Schuman and Kirby Smart. Not to try to diminish John
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: and Brad, because they're excellent in their own right. But
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: I really got to give props here to Kirby as
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: just an absolute wicked defensive mind.
• 31:41
  Speaker 4: Okay, Kirby at one with Kaikowski getting let go at
• 31:47
  Speaker 4: Texas which was a bad decision by Sart and start
• 31:52
  Speaker 4: bringing in Muscham. I know you like Baker and some
• 31:56
  Speaker 4: other guys taking out Kirby with some all in Brad
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: whiteb next or in the top three or.
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: Four, right, right, right there.
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: I guess I know you love smartbles.
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Venables is wicked good too, and kaya Kowski Uh,
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: I mean Kirby Venables and Pete Kayakowski. I mean there's
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: there's three of your best to do it in the
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: last fifteen years total retired or active, you know. And
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: so I'd still have Venables number two right there in
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: in the league. And then then you start getting into
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: the I'd probably put Brad uh in John together. I'm
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: just trying to think of everybody else. Blake Baker's done
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: a real good job flipping the defense at LSU right now.
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: I think he's got to be in the discussion. Elcho
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: is a great mind. So once you get past Kirby
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: and Venables, it gets a little bit muddy there because
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: those are two of them. I mean, those are national
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: Championship DC's man, they're really good. So I think that's
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: your first tier, and then it's everybody else.
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: Okay, bar two. We talked to Auburn.
• 33:08
  Speaker 4: He's got him somewhere in the five and seven to
• 33:11
  Speaker 4: seven and five range. I'd lean more towards five or six.
• 33:17
  Speaker 4: They did as we talked about forty minutes ago. They
• 33:20
  Speaker 4: did retain darkin who's fantastic and Darkin would be in
• 33:23
  Speaker 4: the top half for you as it gets muddy, because
• 33:28
  Speaker 4: he did a damn good job the last few years
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: and he was at Ole miss and A and m
• 33:32
  Speaker 4: would would would Darkin be in out of the sixteen teams?
• 33:36
  Speaker 4: Would he be maybe on the backside, but in the
• 33:39
  Speaker 4: top half of the league bar two?
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's probably he's yeah, he's probably close to the
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: top half of the league. Okay, you know, and yeah,
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: and then goal is his offensive coordinator, he'd be in
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: the bottom half because, yeah, I know, he's coming off
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: a great year. He had a top ten scoring efficiency
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: offense last year, but it took three years to get there.
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: What he did at South Florida those first two years,
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: he can't do that at Auburn. You and I both
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: know that you're not going three and nine or whatever
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: it was. It was bad, bad and average at South
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: Florida those two those two bad years, can't repeat that.
• 34:15
  Speaker 2: He's got to get out of the gate good.
• 34:17
  Speaker 4: Okay, Wow, So we had one good year as an OC,
• 34:22
  Speaker 4: he had one good.
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: And as a head coach and as a head coach.
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: Well, that's true. I'm looking at it right here.
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, look look at it. It's like, oh my goodness,
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: right now, let's give let's give credit. Charlie Strong cretered
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: that thing like nobody else, right, I mean he just
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: absolutely nuked that program out of even Big twelve. Yes, yeah, yeah.
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: And you know something, I hope Teddy Bridgewater is collecting
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: twenty percent of all of Charlie Strong's money he ever makes,
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: because once Teddy Bridgewater left Louisville, Charlie Strong couldn't win
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: a football game to save his life. Oh so yeah,
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: we will, We will see what happens. But defensively, I
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: expect Auburn to be defense first this year in the
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: offense trying to play catch up. Okay, blake up must champed, all.
• 35:14
  Speaker 4: Right, So I've got ole miss should win that game
• 35:17
  Speaker 4: at home, and I still give the edge to Auburn
• 35:22
  Speaker 4: even though they got to go to Starbull just because
• 35:24
  Speaker 4: Jeff's seven and eighteen and one in fifteen.
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: Overall, you expect them to be.
• 35:28
  Speaker 4: Better with Camaro Taylor, Philip Montgomery and Zach Garnett. But
• 35:31
  Speaker 4: I don't know, you know exactly how that looks champed?
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: Hey, can you can you walk.
• 35:39
  Speaker 4: Us through the gap between I know we're going to
• 35:44
  Speaker 4: do a deep, bigger deep dive maybe in a week
• 35:47
  Speaker 4: or two or whatever. But with the Texas Longhorns regressing
• 35:51
  Speaker 4: on offense the last couple of years under Steve sarkgian
• 35:54
  Speaker 4: he let go of a top three defensive coordinator in
• 35:57
  Speaker 4: Pete Kaikowski to our Will must Champ. Can can you
• 36:02
  Speaker 4: describe the gap between kay Kowski who got fired at
• 36:06
  Speaker 4: Texas and Will must Champ, who just got hired as
• 36:08
  Speaker 4: the DC part two?
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: Hmm, let's see here. How can I describe it? What
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: kind of analogy would I be looking at? It's a
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: massive gap, man, I mean, it's it's it's just it
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: is so large. And but let's also be fair too.
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: Maybe Pete wanted to go. I know, I know, I
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: know Sark threw him under the bus as he was leaving, right,
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: blame blame Pete for Sark having to do everything whatever?
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: You know there there's there's a lot of drama and
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: play acting when it comes to the public persona of
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: these guys. And I don't blame and you got to
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: protect yourself, but you know, who knows why Kayakowski left.
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: But ultimately, when you look at everything overall, must Champ, Yeah,
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: people say well he got a ring as a d C. Yeah,
• 37:06
  Speaker 2: it was almost a lightning in a bottle. Though the
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: defense wasn't always there. He hasn't called plays in forever.
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: I'm trying to think of the drop off in talent
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: that that that we're talking about here. Yeah, it's maybe
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: maybe uh maybe old old Miss. Wise, it's it's like
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: going from Lane Colin plays to John David Bakery. You know,
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: do I get my Do I get my twenty bucks
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: now for throwing Ole miss under the bus on that one?
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: No, I I think it's a huge gap. I think
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: the offense will come back, but much better this year.
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: Sark is a really good play caller. Manning has twelve
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: games under his you know, he's got a regular season
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: under hisself. I think the offense bounces back, but I
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: think the defense regresses significantly in in this league. And
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: again I've said it from day one. I don't think
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: Steve sarkizi In is a national championship coach. It's you know,
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: Texas has national championship players, they have National championship money boosters, fans,
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: they got it all. They don't have the coach they
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: has put a season together and has the ability to
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: put the season together without getting super lucky. We saw
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: ed O do it great, the second greatest thing after
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: Kurt Signetty I've ever seen in college football. Never be
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: able to explain that one at LSU. You know. So
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: Steve could do it, but I'll bet against him as
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: long as he's.
• 38:35
  Speaker 4: There, Eddi O now on Lanekiffin's staff, love it all right,
• 38:43
  Speaker 4: Dave bar two on the out of Bound.
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: Show, hot garbage. All right.
• 38:48
  Speaker 4: Let's John David Baker and Jeff Levy. Neither one of
• 38:52
  Speaker 4: them on your metrics would be considered a top fifty
• 38:56
  Speaker 4: offensive coordinator, Is that right?
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: Bar two?
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: Sut not Jeff, but and and and John David. He
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: only has two years under his belt, so he's really
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: not He's not graded per se. Right now, now, I
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: will give you know John David in his two years,
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: he had a strong impact at ECU in year one, Okay,
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: very very very good turnaround, but the regression was was
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: enormous in year two. Uh, to the point where in
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: terms of offensive explosiveness, ECU is number one hundred and
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: thirty six last year in offense out of one hundred
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: and thirty six. So the explosiveness wasn't there My concern
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: with John David his pace of play, how fast he
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: wants to snap the ball. We've we've never seen a
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: a fast pass, you know, past first fast paced offense.
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: I don't think we've ever seen one be really successful
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: in the SEC. Have we? Can you think of one?
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: I can't think of one, bar two.
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: Right, you know? I think this is where the size
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: and athleticism comes into play in the SEC is You've
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: got to be able to run the ball. You've got
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: to be able to control the tempo of the game.
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: And John David loves to go very, very very fast,
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: top three snap count rate in college football over the
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: last twenty four games of the regular season. So I
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: think that's going to be I'm gonna be interested to
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: see how fast they come out in September, because Pete
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: Golden is not used to that either, right, He's not
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: used to eighty ninety plays a game on his defense,
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: and everybody knows in the NIL world, depth is hurt.
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: Everybody is hurting on it's a level playing field. Everybody's
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  Speaker 2: depth is shot relative to what it used to be before.
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  Speaker 2: And if you've got no depth, you can't play ninety
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  Speaker 2: snaps a game you can't gonna get you in the
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  Speaker 2: fourth quarter every time. So that is going to be
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  Speaker 2: an interesting prospect there with Jeff. Jeff's got a lot
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  Speaker 2: of ability. He put up a top five offense one
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  Speaker 2: year at Oklahoma, and the offense progressed significantly last year.
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  Speaker 2: But when you look at the overall talent that he's
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  Speaker 2: had relative to the schedule, his grade is a little
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  Speaker 2: bit lower than John David Baker right now, but certainly
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  Speaker 2: his ceiling. He's proven that he can put up a
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  Speaker 2: big number at Oklahoma. I think that's what all State
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  Speaker 2: fans are waiting for, is that that offense to come
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  Speaker 2: back around at Mississippi State.
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  Speaker 4: What we're we're fans full thinking that Lane Kiffen went
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  Speaker 4: blazing fast on offense.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah that he didn't, Yeah he didn't see to see.
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  Speaker 2: What what happens is the really good offensive coordinators have
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  Speaker 2: a fastball of change up in a curveball, right okay.
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  Speaker 2: And I noticed this the first time with Chim Kelly.
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  Speaker 2: He would go fast, and the defense would go fast
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  Speaker 2: to try to keep up, and then suddenly he'd throw
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  Speaker 2: a change up and the whole thing would stop and
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: it would slow down, and then it would speed up
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: and then it would slow down. And it was a
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: interesting watching the defense not know can I run in
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  Speaker 2: the field right now, because once you do that a
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  Speaker 2: couple of times, it creates this uncertainty and nothing an
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  Speaker 2: offensive coordinator loves more than uncertainty on the defense. And
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  Speaker 2: so Lane could speed it up, but he could slow
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  Speaker 2: it down just as well. And that's one of the
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: beautiful things I think of an offensive coordinator is the
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  Speaker 2: ability to not have to be regulated by the head
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  Speaker 2: coach to speed it up and slow it down. And
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: that's what we're looking at right now for John David Baker.
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: Does he have the ability to slow it down? You know,
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: especially game situation, take the air out of the ball,
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: take some time off the clock. You know, if you
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: don't have the ability to do that, you're losing tools
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: that you need to win close football games in the SEC.
• 42:50
  Speaker 4: Okay Domin Dave bar two Matrix Analytical only at a
• 42:55
  Speaker 4: bound show. I love that about the way you frame
• 42:58
  Speaker 4: that up about Kip in chip Kelly.
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  Speaker 3: It's not smoking mirrors.
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  Speaker 4: But they had a fastball, a change up, and a slider,
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  Speaker 4: and most OC's don't because not everybody can be top
• 43:12
  Speaker 4: ten or top twenty.
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  Speaker 3: And I think.
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  Speaker 4: People thought Lane went really fast because every now and
• 43:19
  Speaker 4: then they'd have an explosive play and they would run
• 43:22
  Speaker 4: down the field and snap it fast. But he didn't
• 43:24
  Speaker 4: do that over three and a half hours. That's where
• 43:26
  Speaker 4: you're going, right.
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  Speaker 2: Bartwo exactly. Or he'd run down the field and then
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: not snap it and the defense is run down there
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: and be ready to go, and then they'd relax, and
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: then he did them right right. Oh dude. I love
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: the nuance of pace of play with experienced offensive coordinators
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: and so but a good example, though, we saw at
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: Oklahoma when Venables was trying to run high pace of
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: play without slowing down. Okay, there's a danger to it
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: and you got to have the horses to do it,
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: and I think it's much more difficult today. So but no, Lane,
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: Lane did what he wanted to do, and the pace
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  Speaker 2: was extremely varied, but it was never you know, sixty
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  Speaker 2: minutes of hell with his offense.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, we'll leave it. That was great, We'll leave it there.
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  Speaker 4: We were able to do a deep dive with Auburn,
• 44:21
  Speaker 4: who ole miss will host and Mississippi State, which is cool,
• 44:25
  Speaker 4: and then we were able to hit some John Summer
• 44:28
  Speaker 4: All and Brad White at Florida which both teams play.
• 44:32
  Speaker 3: And I love when he.
• 44:33
  Speaker 4: Starts ranking and rating you know Kirby and Venibles and
• 44:37
  Speaker 4: Baker and and all these guys. And Lane did not
• 44:41
  Speaker 4: go mega Ferrari fast every now and then he would
• 44:46
  Speaker 4: and we would we'd get all, you know, hot and
• 44:48
  Speaker 4: bothered on a Saturday. But he also knew how to
• 44:51
  Speaker 4: bleed the clock. And Lane loves to run the football,
• 44:53
  Speaker 4: which Bartoo just hit on about this league. You better
• 44:56
  Speaker 4: be able to run the It's still about running the
• 44:58
  Speaker 4: football and stopping the run.
• 45:00
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