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- 0:00What is going on, beautiful people?
- 0:02Today we're going to be talking about where do narcissists learn
- 0:06how to be narcissists? Where where do they learn their
- 0:09toxic abilities from? Where do they get their toxic
- 0:12powers from? If you're new here, my name is
- 0:14Lee Hammock. I'm a clinically diagnosed
- 0:16narcissist. And welcome to another episode
- 0:18of The Narcissist Code. So, boom.
- 0:36Welcome back. Welcome back.
- 0:37Welcome back, folks. Yes, yes, yes.
- 0:40Where do narcissists learn their toxic behaviors from?
- 0:44I get this question in a lot. Like where where is there a book
- 0:47out there that narcissists are like, do they all read from the
- 0:51same script? Are they all going to little
- 0:53narcissistic school, narcissistic elementary school,
- 0:57their Intermediate School, their middle school, then high school,
- 0:59and they graduate to narcissistic college and they
- 1:02get their bachelor's degree in narcissism and their masters?
- 1:05Like, where are they? Where Lee tell me they're
- 1:07checking me, telling me, asking me these questions.
- 1:09Like, yeah, there is no script for for narcissists.
- 1:14There's no book that narcissists read from, even though I'm
- 1:17writing my own book Coming soon this year.
- 1:22But there's no script. Narcissists learn from their
- 1:26peep, the people around them. Narcissists learn from their
- 1:30environment. How do narcissists learn how to
- 1:32lie? So good practice.
- 1:34Practice makes perfect. You know as you're as you're
- 1:38growing older, right? If somebody tells you I know
- 1:41you're lying when you're. I know how you I know you're
- 1:43lying because your eye twitches. I'm going to make sure my eye
- 1:46doesn't twitch anymore so I'm not lying to anybody else.
- 1:49So this person, not only is this person not going to be able to
- 1:52tell I'm lying, nobody else will.
- 1:55I'm practicing keeping my I'm practicing like, that's why you
- 1:58see a lot of narcissists telling unnecessary lies to see if they
- 2:01can get away with it. El It's practice.
- 2:05It's just like training for the Olympics, Training for the lion
- 2:08ass narcissistic Olympics. I want to go.
- 2:11I want the gold medal in pathological lying.
- 2:16You know what I mean? I want the gold medal in that.
- 2:18Give me the gold. I'm going for the gold.
- 2:21So they practice by doing it over and over again.
- 2:23It's repetitive. You know, you don't get good at,
- 2:26you don't get good at something by doing it once.
- 2:28You don't become a pathological liar as an adult.
- 2:31I feel like this condition to you from your youth, from your
- 2:35childhood. You learn how to lie.
- 2:36You learn how to get away with it.
- 2:38You learn how your body is moving when you're lying because
- 2:42people tell you, especially I know you're lying when you do
- 2:45this. I'm not going to do that
- 2:47anymore. So now you don't know if I'm
- 2:48lying or telling them the truth. A lot of times they learn
- 2:52through corrections. They learn how to be toxic,
- 2:54narcissistic through corrections.
- 2:56I hate when you do that. So I'm going to keep doing this.
- 2:58I'm not. I'm not going to stop doing it.
- 3:00I'm going to keep doing it but not let you know.
- 3:02You're not going to find out. I went through your phone right
- 3:06now. I'm going to hide my phone now
- 3:09I'm going to change the password.
- 3:11Narcissistic people learn from their environment and the the
- 3:14people around them. It's it's a lot easier, quote,
- 3:18UN quote easier if you have a toxic, narcissistic parent that
- 3:23you're raised in the same household as.
- 3:25They're becoming A lot easier to be toxic and narcissistic in
- 3:27those situations. Right there.
- 3:28You know what I mean? It does because I'm learning
- 3:31from, I'm learning from the source.
- 3:32I'm tapped into the root of narcissism when I'm learning
- 3:36directly from a parent or cousin or friend or caretaker,
- 3:41grandparent, teacher, whoever I'm learning this type of stuff
- 3:46from because that's where you get it from.
- 3:49Like this is just my own personal belief and I'm open to
- 3:52being wrong. This is me.
- 3:54Y'all hear me say this. I'm open to being wrong here.
- 3:59This is my belief right here that a lot of narcissists, like
- 4:02narcissism at its core is self-defense.
- 4:05So narcissists are learning to be narcissists to defend
- 4:09themselves. I feel like it's self-defense
- 4:12from shame, self-defense from criticism, self-defense to
- 4:16protect my guard, my insecurities to protect my
- 4:19fragile ego. That's where the narcissism
- 4:22comes in. That's where the manipulation
- 4:23comes into play at, you know, believe.
- 4:27How do they know if the manipulation is working through
- 4:29practice? This didn't work on you, so I'm
- 4:32going to try something different on you.
- 4:34If it doesn't work with you, I'm going to try the same thing on
- 4:36somebody else until it works. It.
- 4:39Is this just the mind? Yeah, I know it sounds.
- 4:41I know it sounds foolish. I know it sounds foolish.
- 4:43But, like for me, in my own personal life, I'm not a
- 4:45pathological liar, but am IA good liar.
- 4:48When I want to lie, can I get away with a lie?
- 4:50Yes, because I read body language books.
- 4:53I understand that the the eye twitches and micro expressions.
- 4:59Narcissistic people. When they get ready, when they
- 5:00getting ready to tell a big lie, they warm up for it.
- 5:05You know, they're practicing the practicing the lie in their
- 5:08heads over and over again sometimes.
- 5:11So when I tell it to you, it seems like the truth.
- 5:17No matter, no matter how unbelievable it seems, no matter
- 5:21how like you know, there's no way that's true.
- 5:23No matter how it looks or sounds.
- 5:25I'm going to say with such conviction that it seems true
- 5:30because I saw it on TV and this, this is the crazy thing about it
- 5:32is a lot of narcissists, A lot of narcissists learn toxicity
- 5:36and learn how to get away with things because of the like
- 5:42movies. What do they learn how to love
- 5:44bomb from movies? Yeah, I learn how to learn how
- 5:47to I learn how to love bomb and be do things like that from
- 5:50watching Disney movies growing up.
- 5:52I wanted to be Prince Charming. You know, reading Cosmo magazine
- 5:56back in the day, reading Cosmopolitan magazine back in
- 5:59the day, I want to be big. And doing that right there, so
- 6:02that that's my space. That's what I fell into right
- 6:04there. You know what I mean?
- 6:05That's what I did. That's what I wanted to do.
- 6:08That's why I just tell people all the time, this is the space
- 6:11we're going into. This is the dynamic that we're
- 6:13going into. This is just it.
- 6:16This is part of it right here. You know, this is part of it.
- 6:20This is the space. And I want, I want people to
- 6:23heal. I want people to grow.
- 6:24I want people to learn. Like sometimes you teach this
- 6:26narcissistic person how to treat you.
- 6:28You teach them how to get away with things.
- 6:30That's why I tell people like the first red flag, leave.
- 6:36But leave. Don't give a leave.
- 6:39The first time your intuition goes off, The first red flag
- 6:42that creeps into your life, the first one that just drops from
- 6:45the ceiling? Leave everybody.
- 6:50I posted this on Facebook. Everybody doesn't deserve a
- 6:52second chance, let alone a 15th they don't deserve.
- 6:56Because when you're giving them more and more chances, what are
- 6:58they learning this from? Lee, you gave them 25 chances.
- 7:01Of course they're going to get better at lined and hiding it.
- 7:03Of course they're going to make it more believable, but in
- 7:07childhood they get chances over and over again.
- 7:09Sometimes, like in childhood, the pressure might be higher.
- 7:12Sometimes in childhood, because it's survival, it's
- 7:15self-defense. In childhood, I'm learning how
- 7:17to defend myself, so I'm getting better at defending myself by
- 7:20lying, by being manipulative, by being, by doing this type of
- 7:23stuff and getting away with it. The stakes are higher.
- 7:27I might get, I might get in trouble.
- 7:29I don't want to get in trouble. I don't want to get my game
- 7:31taken away from me. I want to be able to keep my
- 7:33phone, I want to be able to keep my video games or whatever.
- 7:35I become a better manipulator. I get away with it lying to the
- 7:39teachers. It's conditioned, it's
- 7:43conditioning from our youth and we just become masters of it in
- 7:47our adulthood. And like I said, most
- 7:50narcissists y'all don't get better as they get older.
- 7:53So I know a lot of people go out here thinking they're like, oh,
- 7:56I'm dealing with a 4550 year old narcissist or the 50 year old
- 8:00person. They must be mature.
- 8:02They must know what they want. They must they.
- 8:03They don't play, they don't play those games, yo.
- 8:06Older people play the most games, older people play the
- 8:11most games. They do.
- 8:14They've they've, they've become masters of the game.
- 8:15They've had 456 decades of play these games.
- 8:18They've become master manipulators.
- 8:21Tom. Some of them learn a
- 8:22narcissistic traits through Tom. They've had enough time to
- 8:25practice this stuff, you know what I mean?
- 8:28They've had enough time to understand it and they do it in
- 8:31the tried and true method. I've been doing this for 50
- 8:34years. I didn't know how to get away
- 8:36with it. You know what I mean?
- 8:39So just because you find an older person doesn't mean that
- 8:41they, they play play less games. They know what they want.
- 8:45They want their needs met. It doesn't mean that they play
- 8:48less games to get those needs met.
- 8:51You know, that's what I tell people.
- 8:52Y'all, older does not always mean wise or more mature.
- 8:56Older just means a higher number on the age scale.
- 8:59It's all the older means. It just means a higher number on
- 9:02that scale, the age. That's really all it means.
- 9:05So if you're still dealing with a narcissist or toxic person,
- 9:07you have to stay empowered on your journey.
- 9:09Because if you don't, this is what happened.
- 9:10This is the end result right here, you know, because they're
- 9:14going to learn as they grow. If they grew up in an abusive
- 9:17household, they learn how to be. They learn the abuse from being,
- 9:21from growing up in it. You know what I mean?
- 9:25They're doing it. They're, you know, they're
- 9:27growing up in it. They're learning from.
- 9:28They're learning from their current situation.
- 9:30They learn from that. They're learning from the
- 9:31abusive situations. They're learning from that
- 9:34toxic, narcissistic mom. They're learning from that
- 9:36toxic, narcissistic dad. They're learning how to get
- 9:38their needs met by being toxic and manipulative.
- 9:41They are. That's the space of it right
- 9:44there. Y'all.
- 9:44That's the root cause of it right there.
- 9:46That's the dynamic that a lot of people enter into, not knowing
- 9:48when you're dealing with a narcissist or a toxic person.
- 9:51It really is. It's really their space.
- 9:55So they this is where they learn from.
- 9:57Y'all I'm just telling you, like this is where I learned from my
- 9:59personal level growing up. I learned from watching my my
- 10:02mom not manipulated my dad. Yeah, watching being around him
- 10:06toxic. He just, my dad had so many
- 10:09women in and out. He's a womanizer.
- 10:11He just, he just was his, you know, he just was.
- 10:15He's got kids all over the place like he was a womanized
- 10:17manipulator. I learn from other kids.
- 10:20I learn from the kids being around me.
- 10:21I took their personal. I took on their personality
- 10:24characteristics and traits, being around them.
- 10:27Of course, I was already a disconnected kid, but like,
- 10:29that's what happens. We learn from my environment.
- 10:32We become So narcissists are products of their environment
- 10:36when they're growing up, but when they grow up and they get
- 10:39control, they want their environments to become products
- 10:41of them. They want the they want the
- 10:44dynamic to switch. I don't.
- 10:45I no longer want to be a product of my environment.
- 10:47I want the environment to be a product of me.
- 10:50That's how that's how the switch happens right there.
- 10:52I want the environment to become a product of me.
- 10:55Because if it's a product, if the environment is a product
- 10:58product of me, I'm in control. But at the at the core of most
- 11:02things that narcissists want, it's controlled.
- 11:04They want control over the situation, they want control
- 11:06over the finances, they want control over the life.
- 11:08That's part of the data and that's part of the switch that
- 11:10goes on within the the narcissistic mindset.
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