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#381 - MTVJessie · The Bootleg Kev Podcast

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  Speaker 1: What's up MTV Jesse. Check me out on the Bootleg
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  Speaker 1: keV podcast.
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  Speaker 2: All Right, Bootleg CAV podcast. Man special guest here, welcoming
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  Speaker 2: back my guy Jesse aka MTV Jesse aka Bloody Sunday
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  Speaker 2: Jesse Sunday, et cetera, On and on and on. You're
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  Speaker 2: looking like a like you lost like a whole one
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  Speaker 2: of yourselves with this weight loss and this transformation. You
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  Speaker 2: look good man, Thanks man? Uh, how because obviously a
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  Speaker 2: couple of years ago you had kind of like dived
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  Speaker 2: in on like just like redirecting your life in terms
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  Speaker 2: of like getting clean off of alcohol because you were
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  Speaker 2: you know, you had to you recognize you had some
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  Speaker 2: sort of problem with alcohol, however severe and not severe
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  Speaker 2: it might have been. Yeah, it feels like you've dived
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  Speaker 2: all the way in on like kind of a lifestyle
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  Speaker 2: change in terms of fitness, and I always see you
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  Speaker 2: sparring and you're just always sweating and uh, you know,
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  Speaker 2: shirtless sweating and shirtless. But well, first of all, obviously
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  Speaker 2: what sparked that and how long has the journey been
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  Speaker 2: for you where you really like are very consistent because
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  Speaker 2: it's you could start most people start and stop starting
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  Speaker 2: to stop start and to stop. Yeah, the consistency is
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  Speaker 2: important that I.
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  Speaker 1: Think that was the big changes because I was that guy.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I've lost thirty to fifty pounds like ten
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  Speaker 1: times in my life, right, and I fucking got sick
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  Speaker 1: at tired of being that guy.
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  Speaker 2: Likewise, yeah, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 1: And it's fucking annoying. I mean even just this last
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  Speaker 1: week that went by, I like I went on the
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  Speaker 1: scale after like my dad was down and like whatever,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm like seven pounds heavier, and I just thought
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  Speaker 1: cold stop. I was like, yo, you're not that guy,
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  Speaker 1: Like you're not bouncing back to being like fuck yeah,
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  Speaker 1: because you can into it dude so quick. Yeah, and uh.
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  Speaker 1: And I think it's when you stop. Say like for me,
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  Speaker 1: I weigh myself every Monday, and I'm like it's the
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  Speaker 1: second You're like, nah, I know I'm heavier this week,
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  Speaker 1: so I'm gonna weigh myself next Monday. I think that's
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  Speaker 1: told yourself, go weigh yourself, look at it, write it down,
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  Speaker 1: and then be like get back like.
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  Speaker 2: And also weigh yourself at night, because if you weigh yourself.
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  Speaker 1: In the morn, that I can't do I do I'd
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  Speaker 1: naked you're naked.
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  Speaker 2: I take as many and you're naked. You're like, I
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  Speaker 2: don't know why it is if you weigh yourself, like
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  Speaker 2: right when you wake up, you weigh way less. Oh yeah,
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  Speaker 2: that's crazy. You look even better. I know you'll be like, damn,
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  Speaker 2: like my food processed. I'm I don't have a I
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  Speaker 2: don't have a food baby right now.
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  Speaker 1: I even make sure after my shower, I'm like fully dry.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah I can have wet hair.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, because it's a little extra weight.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, damn, I shave my pubes.
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  Speaker 2: I fucking listen, it all counts. My pubes are going
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  Speaker 2: down there. Do you shave your pubes over the toilet
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  Speaker 2: or in a trash bag?
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  Speaker 1: Let me think it's been a minute. Actually because I
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  Speaker 1: was a joke.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, I mean I got to take over a toilet.
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  Speaker 2: You gotta do over the toilet. Yeah, you don't want
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  Speaker 2: to be the guy shaving your pubes over the trash
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  Speaker 2: and then like, yeah, wait I have a wife, Yeah
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  Speaker 2: over the toilet.
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  Speaker 1: Someone does it over the trash. I don't like I've
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  Speaker 1: ever done that.
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  Speaker 2: I think I think some people have done that. Actually, yes,
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  Speaker 2: my co host little brother did that. They share a
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  Speaker 2: place on my radio show, and he talked about how
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  Speaker 2: his little brother shaved his pubes and it was all
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  Speaker 2: over the side of the trash can.
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  Speaker 1: And you got to clean up after too, because it's
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  Speaker 1: always around the toilet.
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  Speaker 2: See you gotta do you gotta do it paper towel yea, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it's almost like a paper towel is more stickier than
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  Speaker 2: you imagine when you're cleaning pubes off of a toilet.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it grabs them.
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  Speaker 2: It grabs them, man, it does. No, It's it's dope
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  Speaker 2: to see everything going on with you.
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  Speaker 3: Man.
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  Speaker 2: Obviously, the last time you were on the show was
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  Speaker 2: not too far after we launched the show. I mean
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  Speaker 2: it's maybe like four or five months after we launched
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  Speaker 2: the podcast. Been a minute, man, it's been a minute.
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  Speaker 2: That was like kind of right after you not right
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  Speaker 2: after you had left out, but I guess you had
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  Speaker 2: kind of broke in your silence. It was right after
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  Speaker 2: you dropped the first YouTube video, kind of talking of
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  Speaker 2: the new direction of content that you were doing.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I don't think i've I sold the company
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  Speaker 1: at that point though.
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  Speaker 2: No you didn't. It was like, no, that's that is correct,
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  Speaker 2: because shortly after that we had me and you had
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  Speaker 2: started clapping on some pranks.
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  Speaker 1: We had some of the best due some of the
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  Speaker 1: best best episodes we ever did.
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  Speaker 2: Was I get stopped all the time, and they're always like, dude,
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  Speaker 2: the prank with the guy who who wrapped like a bear,
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  Speaker 2: and and and a coyfish and and Simba my voice,
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  Speaker 2: you know, Simba, who's huge. You know at the time
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  Speaker 2: he was on the come up. He still was on
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  Speaker 2: the come up, but he's a lot bigger than he
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  Speaker 2: was then. He even brings that shit up to me,
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  Speaker 2: He'll be like, dude, that shit was crazy. Like people
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  Speaker 2: still ask me about, like about that whole situation. Really
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  Speaker 2: there was a snow the product one we did that
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  Speaker 2: for whatever reason, that was with Steve, right, it was
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  Speaker 2: with Steve, and for whatever reason, the like real version
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  Speaker 2: of that prank did not drop.
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  Speaker 1: I think, I don't know it's because it was I
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  Speaker 1: think it was like we shot it as a milk video.
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  Speaker 2: Well that's what I was gonna say. I don't know,
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  Speaker 2: you guys had shot something, and I think that at
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  Speaker 2: that time that was like a situation where Steve was
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  Speaker 2: in it, and I think they they the real footage
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  Speaker 2: of that was supposed to possibly come out on milk.
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  Speaker 2: But we had like a kind of a diet version.
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  Speaker 1: Oh I think I know what happened. That was around
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  Speaker 1: because like me and Kyle were kind of shooting our
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  Speaker 1: own things. Anyways, it wasn't very public, but like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so the idea was towing cars as a prank, and
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  Speaker 1: so I went to you and we shot that. We
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  Speaker 1: brought Steve and we had a segment we were gonna
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  Speaker 1: do for the video. But I think they got sued
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  Speaker 1: or someone got I think like the team got arrested
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  Speaker 1: for this rank. I think that, and then that's they
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  Speaker 1: couldn't upload the footage or so or they couldn't finish.
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  Speaker 2: So there's like really dope footage of this snow the
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  Speaker 2: product prank that we'll never see the light of day.
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  Speaker 2: But it was really good.
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  Speaker 1: Got it on some drives.
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  Speaker 2: Probably she had like her jeep was hooked onto a
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  Speaker 2: tow truck and she was trying to back out on
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  Speaker 2: the wheels were spinning and she's like freaking out. She
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  Speaker 2: has her girlfriend in the car, and I think Steve
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  Speaker 2: was just saying the cross. It was hilarious. It was
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  Speaker 2: so funny. He was like talking about like, well, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I know girls can't drive. I mean you're a woman.
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  Speaker 2: Oh that's what it was.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was it was peak peak Steve will do
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  Speaker 1: it and we can't let you drive because you're a woman.
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  Speaker 2: It was good man, That's what I was gonna say. Man. Recently, obviously,
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  Speaker 2: it was so awesome to see. Obviously the longer way,
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  Speaker 2: everybody ever since the Full Sin podcast launch was waiting
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  Speaker 2: on you to go on there. So it was dope
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  Speaker 2: to see you guys chat and kind of talk about
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  Speaker 2: the good old days and some of the early pranks
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  Speaker 2: that you guys had and then they kind of.
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  Speaker 1: You gave it a listen.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I watched the whole thing. Yeah, I think that
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  Speaker 2: they had dropped. And then I watched the New York
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  Speaker 2: one where you guys were security guards. Oh yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: very It just was like nostalgic.
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  Speaker 1: I get a lot of people have hit me up
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  Speaker 1: since that video and been like, yeah, it was like
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  Speaker 1: the perfect nostalgic thing to do together that like brought
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  Speaker 1: back like a lot of people. I think they they
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  Speaker 1: got brought in a note because of that Coachella video
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  Speaker 1: we did, so it was like their like first fucking
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  Speaker 1: thing they seen. So they were just stoked to see that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I just like, I think that that's what I
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  Speaker 2: miss you guys. I just missed that kind of content
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  Speaker 2: because it doesn't really exist anymore, and I don't think
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  Speaker 2: I was focused on making that kind of shit anymore.
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  Speaker 2: And so it was just dope to see, you know
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  Speaker 2: what I mean, off each other. Yeah, and he just
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  Speaker 2: you know, like I, I just think some of you
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  Speaker 2: guys's branks were just some of the best shit, Like
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  Speaker 2: you guys would really like you know, whether it's you
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  Speaker 2: and uh, Steve. Obviously Steve's face, I don't even think
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  Speaker 2: it's shown anyonere on YouTube from whatever, right.
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  Speaker 1: Not even his hand. Man, it's fucking sad. Apparently I
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  Speaker 1: heard that. Yeah, it was something doing a podcast with
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  Speaker 1: him or something. Then he'd be off camera and like
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  Speaker 1: or that's what it was. I think he did the
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  Speaker 1: Donald Trump one or something happened and his hand was
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  Speaker 1: in it and they were like flagging it and it
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  Speaker 1: was like, what, it's fucking bonkers, dude, that poor guy.
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  Speaker 2: Man.
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  Speaker 3: I really feel bad for him because like sweet dude, dude,
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  Speaker 3: and he was doing so much like look, he was
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  Speaker 3: doing some like pushing the limit type ship, but he
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  Speaker 3: also was giving away so much money to like random families,
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  Speaker 3: like I remember he had that random lady he was
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  Speaker 3: taking on the road with him everywhere, the black chick,
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  Speaker 3: like I always thought, I mean, I'm miss him on YouTube.
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  Speaker 3: I haven't checked him out on Rumble to see if
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  Speaker 3: the pranks or the videos are still of of the
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  Speaker 3: quality that they were.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, when you're deep platformed, it's hard to I
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  Speaker 1: don't know, Like, yeah, I think it was because it
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  Speaker 1: was like audio, but then they were always not in
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  Speaker 1: it and then they said no, like I think they
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  Speaker 1: used like his hand. I could be fucking wrong, but
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  Speaker 1: I remember hearing that somewhere, but.
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  Speaker 2: Well, how how good did it feel for you to
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  Speaker 2: kind of give the fans some transparency? You know? And
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  Speaker 2: and so good?
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  Speaker 1: I bet right fucking because there was a long time coming.
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  Speaker 1: I remember we shot a video on the Sunday channel,
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  Speaker 1: like driving up to the house to go do it. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and uh they were just like flogging me, like the team,
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  Speaker 1: and I said this like thing, and it's so true.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, I'm so glad that this is the
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  Speaker 1: fucking full Sun podcast that we're gonna do where we're
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  Speaker 1: like we're cool and we're like like we're in good terms,
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  Speaker 1: me and Kyle, and like not that we're we were
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  Speaker 1: in bad terms, but like it was definitely we went through.
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  Speaker 2: It was awkar.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a fucking thing, and I didn't want
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  Speaker 1: it to be some fucking mess on the internet. Like
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  Speaker 1: you see a lot of people who are in this
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  Speaker 1: social media game and it's like they almost ride it
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  Speaker 1: as like all I don't want.
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  Speaker 2: To we could use this reviews yeaheah.
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  Speaker 1: And neither of us, like even him, like we both
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  Speaker 1: were like this is some business shit. We're gonna figure
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  Speaker 1: this out. And then I don't know, we did and
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  Speaker 1: now we're cool. It's like, I mean, I think it's
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  Speaker 1: a mix of like reconnecting with him personally for me,
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  Speaker 1: but reconnecting with the whole team, shooting a prank again,
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  Speaker 1: doing the podcast, being able to like actually say how
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  Speaker 1: it is to all my audience and their audience and
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  Speaker 1: our old fans, and like, dude, it just feels like
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  Speaker 1: it literally felt like a weight off my back because,
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  Speaker 1: like you know, it's like drinking and lifestyle and friends
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  Speaker 1: and everything that I fixed in my life, there was
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  Speaker 1: like that one thing that I was like needing to
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  Speaker 1: knock off the fucking list, right, it just feels like
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  Speaker 1: it's done now.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think it's cool too because now you
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  Speaker 2: guys can like I feel like you guys were purposely
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  Speaker 2: kind of like you know. I think think Kyle did
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  Speaker 2: a good job of not speaking too much on it,
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  Speaker 2: and I think even I had heard in an interviewer
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  Speaker 2: somewhere he had said, I don't really want to dive
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  Speaker 2: into it until Yeah. I talked with Jesse on the
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  Speaker 2: podcast That's the fans deserve that, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 1: I think it was that Money by his Happiness podcast.
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  Speaker 1: He like, yes, I watched that and I was like, oh, fuck,
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  Speaker 1: I guess this is where it's all coming out. And
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  Speaker 1: then he was just like he's always just been respectful
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  Speaker 1: that yeah, And I'm like, that's why I've treated in
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  Speaker 1: the same way. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's dope just to see that, man, And
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  Speaker 2: like you said, the fans get a little closer because
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  Speaker 2: you got share fans. I mean obviously you are and
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  Speaker 2: I think an now boys, I think of you and him,
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  Speaker 2: That's what I think of and Steve, you know, to
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  Speaker 2: an extent of Sulim, you know. But it's dope man
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  Speaker 2: for you though, Like have you gotten the itch? To
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  Speaker 2: like kind of you know, maybe pop in our video
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  Speaker 2: here and there, you.
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  Speaker 1: Know, like yeah, the so Kyle hit me up and
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  Speaker 1: was like after we shot that, obviously, like the fans
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  Speaker 1: were cool with it, like everyone everyone liked it, and
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  Speaker 1: he was just like, dude, I'm just gonna let you
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  Speaker 1: know every time we're shooting a video what we're doing.
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  Speaker 2: Like and if you want to get down, yeah, pop.
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  Speaker 1: Into whatever you want. So yeah, that's that's. I haven't
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  Speaker 1: shot anything else right since that. But because obviously I'm
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, we're pretty locked into a fucking schedule of
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  Speaker 1: what I'm building. The new clothes.
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  Speaker 2: Brand so many things. I don't even call it a
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  Speaker 2: clothing brand, It's just a brand.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you get a lot of things on Xbox.
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  Speaker 2: That shit was sexy, super crazy Yeah, yeah, crazyest Xbox
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  Speaker 2: I've ever seen this ship. Would you guys have to
• 11:29
  Speaker 2: take it apart, paint it or did somebody do it?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah? I had to go through like a middleman company
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  Speaker 1: to buy the Xboxes and then and then they did it,
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  Speaker 1: designed them ourselves, and then we got them to like
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  Speaker 1: like do it to them. But we're doing the same
• 11:42
  Speaker 1: thing with uhcause we have a nineties drop coming out,
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  Speaker 1: and we're doing ten game Boy colors. Oh so it's
• 11:49
  Speaker 1: kind of sick like game Boy color, but in our color.
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  Speaker 2: That's great. Yeah. So for you now you just kind
• 11:55
  Speaker 2: of have the option whenever you want to film, Hey, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I want to do the Bigfoot thing or yeah yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Which is like I never didn't want to do pranks.
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  Speaker 1: That's why I did Shipthold.
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  Speaker 2: When you were doing Shithole, you did some great ship.
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  Speaker 2: Like you had the old man that I just saw
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  Speaker 2: at a random restaurant in the valley oh Eaton Park
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  Speaker 2: and Burbank. I was there at my parents and I
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  Speaker 2: saw that old dude who was like, oh Grams, Yeah, yeah, Gramps.
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  Speaker 2: And I was just like, that's the dude. Well he's
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  Speaker 2: like a straight up actor. Yeah, tons of shit. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: great fucking actor. But yeah, no I saw him. I
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  Speaker 2: was like, that's the fucking old man from the fucking
• 12:27
  Speaker 2: uh the Jesse videos. Yeah. I mean Shithole was dope.
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  Speaker 2: I mean for you at the moment documenting kind of
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  Speaker 2: the new what Sunday is, right, the brand You've been
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  Speaker 2: putting so much into, so much work into I told
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  Speaker 2: you off camera, I was like, it's crazy because I
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  Speaker 2: kind of feel like I've just been watching this thing
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  Speaker 2: since like incubation just come alive on YouTube, and now
• 12:52
  Speaker 2: you're obviously having success. You had the pop up shop. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it feels like everything's just flying. I mean, you know,
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  Speaker 2: you drop and it sells out. Yeah, and for you, like,
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  Speaker 2: I guess what is your You have so much going on.
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  Speaker 2: You train, you're working out, you got the brand, you're
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  Speaker 2: shooting vlogs, content, all of that. What is kind of
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  Speaker 2: like you're like most of your energy going into because
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  Speaker 2: you also eventually want to kind of help do stuff
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  Speaker 2: for other brands.
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  Speaker 1: Right yeah, we're currently already doing that right now.
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  Speaker 2: Oh dope.
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  Speaker 1: Just we we slowed down at the start, like the
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  Speaker 1: like you were saying, you seem like it feels like
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  Speaker 1: you like know Sunday from the start, you can feel
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  Speaker 1: how the whole operation works. We got like I've said
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  Speaker 1: this before, but like that's why we got so much
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  Speaker 1: hate on it because it was like we were so
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  Speaker 1: transparent that we like didn't even know what the fucking
• 13:44
  Speaker 1: company was. Like we were figuring it out and people
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  Speaker 1: were seeing us figure it out, which again I think
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  Speaker 1: long term is paying off because now people are like whoa,
• 13:51
  Speaker 1: now now I understand all the moving parts. But yeah,
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  Speaker 1: the only thing with the working for other people and
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  Speaker 1: designing their shit is it is super complicated unless if
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  Speaker 1: you do if you do six out of ten things
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  Speaker 1: for that company and they commission you to do that,
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  Speaker 1: but then they fuck up the other four and it
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  Speaker 1: doesn't sell or it doesn't work, Yeah, and they want
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  Speaker 1: to blame you for not working and you're like, well,
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  Speaker 1: you didn't not a market, or you didn't know how
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  Speaker 1: to you know, whatever it was, whatever it is. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: So I think the key is coming in and in
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  Speaker 1: the future it'll be like venture studio absorbing companies, like
• 14:25
  Speaker 1: taking half the company small that we believe.
• 14:27
  Speaker 2: In, right, so that we can help build them up.
• 14:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and we could do everything for them.
• 14:31
  Speaker 2: But like if you kind of become a partner and
• 14:34
  Speaker 2: you make it vertical mm hmm, fully vertical and.
• 14:37
  Speaker 1: Don't do too many of them, just like true, yeah,
• 14:39
  Speaker 1: it don't take on too much because then you're gonna,
• 14:41
  Speaker 1: i mean, everythink it's watered down if you're gonna do that.
• 14:42
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. Yoh, it's crazy because I
• 14:45
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• 14:46
  Speaker 2: and how important it was to find the right blank yeah,
• 14:49
  Speaker 2: and like what like did you guys have to because
• 14:52
  Speaker 2: there's so many blanks out there, there's like Los Angeles
• 14:55
  Speaker 2: apparel and uh is that like a peril of the
• 14:58
  Speaker 2: big thick one that I like plaus suos Yeah, but
• 15:04
  Speaker 2: like for you Gilden yeah yeah right, so like how
• 15:08
  Speaker 2: did you find the blank or did you create the blank? Create?
• 15:13
  Speaker 1: Everything's created? So everything we sell is completely custom, but
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: it's uh, I would say it it's a Frankenstein of
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: a bunch of different shirts. So like for that T shirt,
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: it was like it has a little bit of an
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: acne studios blank it Like that's where the boxy fit came.
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: The fabric was like some shirts that we liked, but
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: it was also came down to just Tyler, who's part
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: of our sourcing team. He just he knows every single
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: fabric we go feel fabrics, Like we sampled that shirt
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: like twelve times, so it just kept frankensteining until we
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: were like, this is the perfect shirt at a perfect
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: price point, and.
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: Do you go to China to feel fabrics? Just curious?
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: I haven't yet. No, he is our like connection to that.
• 15:53
  Speaker 2: He's the guy who's got the Chinese plugs.
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but we're also doing a lot of shit domestically too.
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: We're trying to as much as we can.
• 15:59
  Speaker 2: I mean that's dope. Yeah, if you don't have to
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: outsource it, you can support some American companies. Why wouldn't
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: you or North American companies can shout out to Canada. Yeah,
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: we're all in this together and not. So it's just
• 16:13
  Speaker 2: dope to see man for you, Like, have you felt
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: Because I can only imagine when you're a part of
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: something so big like you were, and you voluntarily walk
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: away while trying to build your own shit, there has
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: to be some time, whether it's subconscious or not. And
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: I don't really take you as a type of person
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: like second guess yourself, but you can't help but be
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: like a normal human being who goes to normal human emotions.
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: Was there ever any point in time where you, you know,
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: either one second guest leaving Nelk or two, did you
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: feel like it was just a really hard, uphill battle
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: to try to get over it? Kind of being Jesse
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: from the Milk Boys as opposed to being Jesse from
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: Shithold Jesse from Sunday.
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: Like, Yeah, I mean it's kind of two big parts
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: obviously it was like such a long thing to do,
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: so it wasn't I did have I obviously had the
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: feeling of like should I do this? Should I not?
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: Because it went on for two years, you know what
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: I mean? So why it did happen?
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: And while that break happened, this Happy Dad thing is
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: going fucking bonkers. Yeah, and you owned a piece of
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: happy Dad, right, yeah, yeah, so you're you're obviously, I mean,
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: Happy Dad is fucking everywhere. It almost feels like it's
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: like bigger than anything now that those days are a
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: part of. So I can only imagine, like like you said,
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: like you're you're kind of like damn, like like I
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: think that's just a human nature thing to just be
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: like I mean, not to say necessarily second guessing yourself,
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: but definitely like kind of assessing what's going on, Like
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: did I make the right move? And obviously you're in
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: the middle of negotiating a buyout, I'm assuming yeah.
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: And I don't know how much I can talk on it,
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: but that like Happy Dad full send. Now, everything that
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: was happening in that time, everything was being negotiated, So
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: it was like there was a point where it was
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: like is this like leaving everything or is this leaving
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: some or what does this steel look like? And fucking
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: So that's why it was so big, right, Happy Dad.
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: It's massive, It's like and I think, yeah, walking around
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: walking away with Happy Dad is massive and secure for me.
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: So wait, do you still own a piece of Happy Dad? Yeah?
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah at home.
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we're we're sleeping good now, we're good.
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: So well, I know who to ask to borrow money
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: for any sort of clothing venture or adventure in general,
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: or if I want to go get tugged off somewhere Jesse,
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: you got it. But that's crazy.
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: Here there's a podcast clip of me talking about that already,
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: where I like said about I don't know it like
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: went viral as just like you know, viral a couple
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: of million views, but of me talking about how I
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: sold the company but I kept Happy Dad and it
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: was so funny how that was connected to so many
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: people that I could tell saw that and called me
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: and started pitching me all their ventures and I'm like,
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: I'm not that.
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: Rich, bro. Like also like dude, fuck off. Yeah, Like
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: I know you saw the YouTube short and all, but like,
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: you know, go fuck yourself, like everyone wants to go
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: for lunch. All of a sudden, you're like, are you
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: pretty like involved or you just kind of.
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: Not completely disconnected? Just just check Yeah, shout to you man.
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's funny that you're you don't drink anymore, but
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: you own one of the biggest Seltzer brands in the world.
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: It's wild. And then I've never tried it. That's fuckingmore wild.
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: Yo, I know da wild wild because you had already
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: left because I remember watching them going through the tasting
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: and you weren't there. Yeah, wow, I know, sick.
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: That's so fucking weird. Yeah, that's crazy.
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: Like I I owned some I've never tried, so you're like, Yo,
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: that's crazy. Have you had any and you know, like
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: I think that you spoke about it. I don't think
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: you ever were like the type of alcoholic in which
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: like my uncle or some of my family members are
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: where like you're like physically dependent on alcohol to get
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: through your day and if you were to get off
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: of it, you go through withdraws and maybe end in
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: the hospital. But you were drinking a lot, you were
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: partying a lot. It was your lifestyle. Have you gotten
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: to any sort of point where you were vulnerable where
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: you thought about having a drink at all?
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely not, but not in a negative way more right.
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: Now, That's why I didn't want to like people to
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: think you're like relapsing, because I don't think that, Like
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: I don't look at you as like the guy who's like,
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: I'm sober three years bro, Like I got my chip,
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: I'm going to meetings.
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: I don't even say sober anymore because there's also like
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: a drink. I just don't drink. Yeah, And and honestly,
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: I literally only did it because my mom said to
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: me one time. She was like, you don't want to
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: be the guy that can't have a beer. And I
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: knew that it was more of a lifestyle change. I
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: just had to get out of that lifestyle where that
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: was a part of my fucking job every day. And
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: I think that I've accomplished that and I feel healthier
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: and all the shit. So it's been crossing my mind,
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: just like how long it's it's weird. It's like it's
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: such a streak now that it's like weird to break
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: that seal. And to be honest, I'm a little worried
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: about how it'll make me feel, like because the last
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: time I had like a couple of drinks I like
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: made my head all fucked up, I fucking I don't know,
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: it screwed me up so like the very last time
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: I drank, So I don't know. It actually like scares
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: me a bit to have a drink. But maybe that's good.
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: Do you miss like beer the most? Honestly?
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: Maybe a cold beer, but maybe it's just like going
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: over for dinner and yeah, having a glass of wine
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: feeling a little loose.
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like a little like social drink, you know, miss
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: so Yeah, yeah, that makes sense. I guess if you
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: were going to break the streak, you should break it
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: for the company that you're partner earth.
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, oh, definitely have a happy dad. Yeah, for sure.
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: The best flavor, by the way, fruit punch, and I
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: don't even think it's close. I think it's fruit punch,
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: and then I think it's the death Road grape. I
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: heard a lot was saying that grape one's great, and
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: then it's probably I'm not gonna lie the first like
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: pack that dropped. I think I only liked one of them. Really,
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: I think I only like, I haven't had the banana one,
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: but I do love fruit punch is fire really yeah,
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: fruit punch. If you're gonna break the streak, you gotta
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: go fruit punch.
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: I gotta send you a case here, man, I don't
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: know you drink it. Oh yeah, yeah, we'll get you something.
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: You know. I opened a nightclub in scott Stale and
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: uh really carry Happy Dad.
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: I didn't know that.
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll check it out. Yeah, it's a hip hop club, obviously,
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: it's it's it's not like the Scott Steel spots you
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: guys usually go to that have Happy Dad. But we
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: are cracking. We just had the baby, we just had
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: sexy Red. We just I mean, it's it's lit. But
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: we do have Happy Dad. We carry Happy Dad. So
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: I've tried them all, but I think we keep the
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: grape in stock, the grape and fruit punch.
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: Really yeah, yeah, I wonder how many fucking stores and clubs.
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: And it's crazy because it's everywhere, because I mean, I'm
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: sure as you know, like when you guys, I mean
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: you were necessarily heavily involved, but you know, it is
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: your company part of it. And when Happy Dad first dropped,
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: it was like a real mission to find it. Like
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: if you found I remember the liquor store would be
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: like dude, we can't. Like we'd get like twenty cases
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: in and they sell like right away to like one guy. Yeah,
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: And it was like, what the fuck.
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: I'm sure that was all designed by Kyle. Like that's
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: where he's a genius, Like he just created the demand
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: right away. Yeah, made it limitless. It's almost like a
• 23:26
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• 23:27
  Speaker 2: That's what they were doing, where it'd be like, hey,
• 23:29
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• 23:32
  Speaker 1: Getting thousand kids outside of there. My kids, but twenty.
• 23:36
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• 23:38
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• 23:40
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• 23:41
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  Speaker 2: I think, like I think we were talking a little
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  Speaker 2: bit just kind of about like the process. Obviously shout
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: out to happy dad. If you were to have a drink,
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: could we establish that it would be a happy dad?
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  Speaker 2: You gotta try your own shit. How Like I always
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  Speaker 2: wonder when you own a company like that, because like
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: I'm part owner of a nightclub, I have certain like
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  Speaker 2: ways I get paid out. Do you get paid out quarterly?
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: Do you get paid out yearly? Is it bi annually?
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: Like I think it's uh yearly, but it's mostly I
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: don't even know how that all. Fuck I even dove
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: into it too much, But it's more of just like
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: that shit sells one day, fucking that's more.
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: Which I'm sure it will. Yeah. Yeah, you know you're
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: banking on the cell because the cell's got to be
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: coming eventually, even if it's like not any time soon.
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: Like it feels like like the goal if you're like
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: an up and coming alcohol company is to get it
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: super popping and then sell to like a book Hardy
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: or like one of these big dogs down yeah Vanheuser
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: Busch or something, and just cash the fuck out.
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: I have a feeling that that was the motion. I
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: don't want to speak for anyone, but I think they're
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: seeing how well of a job they're doing it, and
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: they're like, maybe this is a ten year plan. Maybe
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: this is like they're gonna go for it. They're gonna
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: try to be like yeah, Budweiser or like I get it.
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: I mean, I mean or white white what's it? What's
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: the other one like white claw? Yeah, what's yeah? I
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: mean they're taking that market share for sure. For you, man,
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: tell me like, uh, what are you? What are your relationships?
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: Like, like how often do you talk with a guy like
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: Steve these days?
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: Pretty slim with Steve. He'll he'll text me or DM
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: me like a sentence every once in a while, and
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: then I'll be like like something just out out of
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: the box, random, and then I'll hit him back and
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: be like it's out, buddy, And then not.
• 29:18
  Speaker 2: Like when he got like the platform, do you like
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: feel inclined to like reach out like see if he's okay?
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: Because I feel like, yeah, for sure, as someone with
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: a YouTube channel and I see certain people's channels just
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: getting demonetized or deleted, I would like, I don't even
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: know what I would do, man, Like, yeah, it'd be heartbreaking.
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: Well for him, it's like it's not even because of
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: financial really, I think it's more just he loved Like, dude,
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: he literally did love doing that, Like he loves doing
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: shit for people and giving to people. And I think
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: that the show that he was doing gave him a
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: purpose to keep doing that. And I think he just
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: loved being a YouTuber and a creator, like and I'm
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: sure that that's that's a toll man. When someone takes
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: that away from you, it fucking sucks. So I do
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: feel for him, man, for sure.
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: Man sucks. Talk to me about for you, like the
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: Sunday thing? What is the what had it? Because there
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: had to be a few names in the running for
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: your new brand mm hmm. Give me kind of a
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: few of the other names it almost made it? And
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: why did you end up kind of landing on Sunday
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: other names?
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: I honestly don't think there was there comes.
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: Than anything that that that you were like, you know what,
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: let's put that on the whiteboard because I like it.
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: Let's just put it down there just because I want
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: to see it.
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: Well, it starts with Bloody Sunday, Okay, I've had for
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: a while. It's also got my own little personal meaning
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: that I don't make public, but they like then it
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: just it's kind of like when they I think it
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: was like Facebook was called like the Facebook, and then
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: they like slimmed it up. So like Bloody Sunday being
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: the streetwear brand which started as shoes that I worked
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: on for like five years, just and just as a hobby,
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: I just wish like you.
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: Had drop backpacks, like what yeah, a year and a
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: half ago, there was.
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: Like real high end like looking. I just I just
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: like making shit. It's I was just making suit for
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: the homies. But Sunday, it just it really hit me
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: that one time with like I don't know if I've
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: already explained this or if you know this already, but
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: the whole idea of I like to look at life
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: as like chapters a bit, and Sunday is like this
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: chapter that I'm on, and it kind of felt like
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: NELK was a Friday night, The vibe of a Friday
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: night Saturday was full Send, like keep going, and then
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: Sunday was like everything you just think and feel when
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: you think of Sunday as like what we represent and
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: what I represent and what I'm trying to build it
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: into is just like that really like relaxing, but it's
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: like a little like a tempo down, you know what
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: I mean. But it's also like I don't know, I'm
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: gonna butcher explaining this, but it's just I know, it's
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: like I know what it means to me, and it
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: just I know it makes sense.
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: Well, you guys like really mastered somehow the culture that
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: you created and turning it into like an EXCLUDI pusive
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: brand that was kind of like a supreme if you will.
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: When certain drops with like I think you guys would
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: drop with full Send. Was it every month? Almost? Yeah, monthly,
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: it was like a monthly drop. And I and like,
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: I'm I'm assuming that you guys had opportunities to make
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: it not so exclusive and ended up in atillies or
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: a Zoomis or something. And I'm assuming you guys probably
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: were smart enough to be like, no, we like what
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: we're doing. It keeps our brand super exclusive. We don't
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: want to hoard out for you, is that something you
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: want to kind of carry over with Sunday like because
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: it feels super exclusive, Like it's almost like this is
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: going to get made and if you don't get it,
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: you're never going to get it because it's not getting
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: made ever. Again.
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: That's that's the only business model I know for creating
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: brands and what I'm good at. But I also I
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: do I don't want to create something that's also like
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: fifteen year old me can't be a part of because
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: I missed the drop or it's too expensive. So I'm
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: keeping that in mind, and that's where there's a lot
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: of different lanes that we're building out that likes. That's
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: why I think it's like so smart with Sunday being
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: the catalog dropping in the color and then that that
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: enters that piece into the catalog, Like now we can
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: use that to design for years going forward. But the
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: idea that that drops in the green and that Sunday
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: and that's always the most limited, like it happened with
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: our last drop. Every Sunday SKW sold out in like
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: a minute under a minute, And I think that then
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: Sunday can kind of become that that you know, special
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: limited never happens again. Bloody Sunday can be just as special,
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: but a little easier to get, a little easier to
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: get and and then it's not like out yet. But
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: I've been working in the background for I'm trying to
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: make up another brand that's like a sister brand that's
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: in the company, same culture, same designers, everything, but it
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: isn't h it's a little inexpensive. It's like and I'm
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: working on it with possibly like Atillies or a Zoomi's
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: and it's gonna be something, yeah, but it's a brand
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: for it. It's called and it's we were literally because
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: we were talking and we were like, what about can't
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: afford this? What it was can't And we were like
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: like the everyday kid that I was going sitting at
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: the skate shop, and I'm like, I want to create
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: a brand that's just as cool and you can feel
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: a part of the party. But it's not about always
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: just like selling out and limited and you know, high margins.
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: It's just it's like everyday brand for but still as
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: the culture of what we are, you know.
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and like you you're very good at like creating
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: a like that's why I said earlier. It's not that
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: it's not a clothing brand, because you've always been really
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: good at just kind of just having just shit, like
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: if you want to fucking flag or you want.
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: I mean.
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: Just a lanyard, Yeah, like a lanyard, you know what
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: I mean? Like it doesn't always have to be like
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: hats and shirts and shit like no, it kind of.
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: Like that's what fascinates me though, Like I love how.
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: Find a new shit, Like what if we did our
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: version of this?
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: Like why can't we make our own mics? Why can't
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: we make our How when you find out that, like
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: how that shit's made? What is the minimum motor? Like
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: what can you customize on this? That's why the Sunday
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: brand's so fun because everything has to be in the color.
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: So when you look at like a mic like this,
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: like how wood steel, like then oh, if you want
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: to change the steal, you got to hit ten thousand MOQ.
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: It's like fucking I don't know. I find all that
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: the logistics of it super interesting, damn, but I don't
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: know if I answered anything, you know.
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: No, that sounds great. No, I just I just feel
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: like it's dope to kind of because like You've done
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: such a good job of like building brands. You know,
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: obviously I give you a lot of credit, and I
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: have a lot of credit for the nelk shit, But
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: I feel like just the clothing shit. I knew when
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: you had initially quote unquote broken off from filming it
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: was to focus on the clothing side and building out
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: the merch more and shit. So I know that it's
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: very you know.
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: I think that's what flicked a bell for me, is
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: when that happened. And because I got to remember that
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: when I was a kid, that's where it all started.
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: It was skateboarding, filming skateboarding and creating clothing, Like I
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: was a kid sewing clothes under my locker, trying to
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: make that work, and I just always loved it. And
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: I think that just made me realize if at a
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: point in my life I was unhappy, I'm like, this
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: shit makes me happy. I want to like I could
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: wake up every day and just work on like designing
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: clothes and making products, and.
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: No, I think the marketing of it, right, that's kind
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: of like the everyone's dream. Can I wake up every
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: day and do what makes me happy and get paid
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: for it?
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: And it's silly to be like financially secure and then
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: not do that. That's where I like, that was my
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: my tipping point of just like what am I doing?
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: Like So one of my favorite parts of the Nelk
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: era was when your dad Pat would be in the
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: videos because I just think he's fucking sick. He just
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: seems like a sick hang. I met him a couple
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: of times. I met him when you were in the
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: studio with CASKI yeah, how involved do you have him involved?
• 36:56
  Speaker 2: And you said he was just hure for a few weeks.
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: Is he involved with anything with the brand or is
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: he just dad at this point?
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: Like just just character? I think, like, for one, I
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: mean I just bought a home, so it's been cool
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: to have him down and like I'm trying to make
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: a real effort of how important that's going to be,
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: just being able to like work on my first house
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: and it's a fixer upper, so just like great, I
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: used to do that when I was a kid with him,
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: and I know that.
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: So he's like a contractor.
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, We're like he's like a hank. Yeah he'll, he'll, he'll.
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: The Only problem with him is he's gonna find like
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: the cheapest way to do everything shout out yep. That
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: sounds like, man, I'm not trying to lose value on
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: that home. So I'm like I'm trying to always push him.
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: I'm like, nah, many is the right way, Dad, Yeah,
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: the right way?
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: Like things are good right now. We don't have to
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: we don't have to cut corners.
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: But I definitely am carrying over the character when it
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: comes to like the Sunday Show and what we're doing.
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: And I mean, I think we found that with nelk
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: is just the the father's son comedy and his son
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: being my dad being a father figure to like now
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: everybody was what was so funny And also just like
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: for those guys, like they've came to me and him
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: numerous times when we were on those trips, and it
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: was like, I don't know whether it was like some
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: don't talk to their dad a lot or have a
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: close relationship, it's just like it's good. I mean, I
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: even get a lot of comments about that whenever they
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: see like footage of me and my dad, and it's honestly, like, dude,
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: it's like the saddest shit when someone says like I
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: don't I never got that. I don't get to do
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: that with my dad. So I look forward to those
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: click watch those.
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: Dude.
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's like you want to hit on my fucking heartstrings.
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: That's like, dude, that's fucking I don't know. That makes
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: me want to shoot more content with him if it's like.
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: I love a man, especially when he's like as a
• 38:36
  Speaker 2: fold up chair. He's in the.
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: Garage anytime I try to produce his ship. Yeah, it's
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: horrible when I just say.
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: Do what you do. Here's you. You have to try
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: to work your phone. It always works, huh yeah.
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: And he'll just he just makes like a Peaky Blinders set.
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: I don't know if you saw that one. Peaky Blinders
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: is No one's even talking about it. It happened ten
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: years ago.
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: And he's over. It's over. I had a little research.
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: It's going to hit Netflix, but yes, yeah, fair enough.
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: But he watched it that week, so he's like Peaky
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: Blinders set.
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: It's crazy because I'm sure you probably have heard from
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: fans of what you did. Prior you had to have
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: heard from some people like did you inspire anybody to
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: quit drinking at all? Yeah?
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: That was especially near the start of it all. I
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: was having people like come up to me and dude,
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: like the saddest one when I was in Hermosa Beach
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: and this it's not sad, it's just this shit always
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: hits me. But like this mother came out to me
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: and was, yeah, same whole story, just like her son
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: was relapsing like a bunch and that he's been sober
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: for X amount of months because of you and fuck him.
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: It's just like and that's around the time where I
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: was going through a lot of shit, and like you said, like,
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: am I making the right decision? And I remember I
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: just like that's all I needed. I was like, Yep,
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: I'm doing the right thing right now, like anything when
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: you're helping that one kid.
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: Though, that's crazy, Like you said, not that there's any
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: problem with drinking, but I do think that, like at
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: the end of the day, it is it is a
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: behavior that if you let it get out of hand,
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: it will negatively affect your life. Yeah, it could. It
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: could make you get a duy that you shouldn't have got.
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: It could make you make a decision. I mean, everyone's
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: one decision away from fucking their whole entire life up
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: at any given time, right, So it's like that that
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: your ability to make that fucked up decision is however,
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: much more likely because you're intoxicated, right, Yeah.
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: So it's like that's where the anxiety comes from, because
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: it's the like, yeah, like I get it. I'm sober now,
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: and I think it's just a tick that I've brought over.
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: But it fucking the idea of oh, crashing my car
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: or doing it like, it's just like one second, you
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: could ruin your fucking life. And I just I think
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: that if you are living that lifestyle, is nothing wrong
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: with drinking, But if you're deep into it where you're
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: fucking doing it every day, or you're blacking out a lot, dude,
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: like you slip up once, it's.
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: Just yeah, because when you like we've all had those
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: knights or those friends where you black out drunk and
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: you literally say, I don't know what happened last night.
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: Imagine not knowing what happened the entire night and day
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: prior because you were so fucked up you could have
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: did anything.
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: That was my problem. I was a blackout drunk like
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: I never I don't know if I was really an alcoholic.
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: I was a fucking just like I was a life
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: for the party. So I if I was gonna drink,
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: I would just drink.
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: And how how it's it's it's interesting to just kind
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: of see how the world has turned in the last
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: three years in terms of like just everything. Obviously COVID
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: was crazy, But you guys, I want to say the
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: tail end of what before you had kind of stepped
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: away was those early COVID videos, Yeah, which were great
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: because if I curiously living in La watching you guys
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: party and like the ozarks wherever the fuck you guys were,
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: was sick. How like were those like, I mean, that
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: had to be a stressful time to shoot because we
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: don't know all the information. Everyone's freaking freaking the fuck out.
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: I mean, I think fast forward to now, we probably
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: have all come to the conclusion that everything's all right
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: and if you get COVID, chance to so you'd be okay.
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, if your health it's probably a cold.
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: Were fun, right, Yeah, But at that time, it's like
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: peak hysteria, like early peak hysteria. Yeah, and you guys
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: are hitting the road doing these just these weekend fucking
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: just insane binges.
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: What so so many lecture videos you can do, and
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: like we were doing a lot of.
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: Guys doing a lot of popping in on the zooms
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: and yeah. Yeah, So so like what what was it
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: like hitting the road during that time? Where was everyone
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: freaked out, like worried about catching COVID or didn't.
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: I don't think so. I mean we had a massive team,
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: so it was we were still taking Like I would
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: love to know what we spent on just testing and like.
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: Because everybody had to test.
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we were testing all the time.
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: Early tests were expansive.
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it was crazy.
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: You couldn't go to Walgreens and get a test.
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but if we had to keep the company a
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: flip going. It kind of reminds me of like UFC
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: and that they did. They were like the one organization
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: that was like, we're not going to just like say
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: fuck the rules, but we're gonna like find a way
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: to make this work because I'm running a company.
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: WW did that too? Yeah?
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: Did they?
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah? They had like a they had a It was
• 43:03
  Speaker 2: kind of corny, like WrestleMania during the pandemic was like
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: a ring surrounded by a bunch of screens of fans
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: watching on zoom.
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: Oh so it looked like real fans and.
• 43:15
  Speaker 2: Kind of I mean, it just looked like thousands of
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: people sitting in their chair on their webcam, so it
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: kind of but there was no noise, so there's no
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: crowd does or anything. Oh fuck, So it's like quiet
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: people just hitting the mat and then you just see
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: like people like react like a half a second late,
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: you know, because like not everybody's got the best internet
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: out there, and.
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: That must have been weird for UFC when they were
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: doing it in Vegas a lot. Yeah, Like imagine you're
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: used to massive crowds reacting. It's just quiet quiet. You
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: can hear the other coach, you can hear.
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: It almost kind of feels like it could fuck your
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: whole like oh yeah, if you're like used to fighting
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: that like with the noise and shit, and it's just
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: dead quiet, like and you could hear everything, like you
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: could hear the commentators and shit.
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: Like it's a little too I'm gonna say serious, but
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: I mean spar wespire every Friday, and like you got
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: tunes on, there's people Like it's like it's a vibe
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: I couldn't imagine just dead quiet two people trying to
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: kill each other.
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: In what is are you doing? Jiu jitsu?
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: Mostly just striking so kickboxing, boxing or just whatever, just yeah,
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: muitai definitely, like it's like very useful style, but the
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: I really want to start doing a little bit more
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: ground game and just maybe even a day a week.
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, my boy, So I train in the morning. I
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: don't do jiu jitsu, but I trained. I work out
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: with my guys do at a jiu jitsu gym. Oh nice,
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: And so I just don't know if I could roll
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: around with another grown man in some of those compromising positions.
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: No one talks about how it's pretty gross too, Like
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: you're covered in sweat and you're sweating, and there's staff infection,
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: there's dude, that's all that's part of that culture.
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: Ring worn yep.
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: And someone comes in they got a band aid on
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: their neck and you're like, oh cool, like yeah.
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: And it's like you know, like uh, dudes will sweat
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: in your mouth like unfortunately, it's like unavoidable.
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: Well jiu jitsu gyms, it's normally like twenty dudes, ten people,
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: you know, yes, like.
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: They call it sparking the rolling yeah, and but then
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: they'll go, okay, the switch partners. So now you're just
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: like covered in sweat, on a sweaty.
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: All, everyone's sweat is cross pollinated.
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: It's by like special soap to like it's like, I
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: forget what's called.
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: But it's almost like you're you're very dependent on a
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: lot of people to be taking care of their hygiene
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: at a high level hundred percent, and the chances of
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: that being the case are very slim. Yeah, because people
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: are dirty as fuck.
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: I recommend just finding your cool group of people that
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: you love and training with them. Yeah, that's what I like.
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: This morning, one of the guys who's the main coach
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: is at it's a place called Legacy and Bourbank. He
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: always comes in and talks shit to me because he says,
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: I look like some fucking bald fighter. I don't know,
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: and so I want to go back and talk shit
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: to him. But he was rolling and he had this
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: dude on top of him with his legs open, and
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: I was just like, jeez, I couldn't do it. I
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: couldn't do it, man. Yeah. Just I get the striking,
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: I get the more tie the fighting, you know, but
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: the jiu jitsu is just just a special kind of dedication.
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: Isn't it weird that hobbies and sports have to feel
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: cool for you to be interested, like in a weird way,
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: Like I skated in my whole life, but I wonder
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: if how much percent of that was because like skateboarding
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: felt cool like it was.
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: It was during that era. It was like it was
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: the ship.
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think that Tony strikings and boxing feels cool,
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: like I don't.
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: It's a cool thing right now for sure. I feel
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: like and that you're right, Like I kind of feel
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: like mma. Like even my kid who just turned eighteen,
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: asked me, he's like he's a big UFC fan. He
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: was just like, hey, you know, can you see how
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: much of a cost to put me in? Because he
• 46:49
  Speaker 2: plays basketball and stuff, but he wants to do jiu jitsu. Yeah,
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: And I was like, you know, it's it's pretty gnarly.
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm all for it because I know it.
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: You know, with any sort of martial arts, there's a
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: certain level of discipline that comes with it and camaraderie
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: and it's good for you, you know, for you, Like
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: you don't necessarily like do you do you have like
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: a I wouldn't say a Sinsey, but do you have
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: a like do you train like to like level up
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: in belts or you just kind of doing it strictly
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: as like a passive hobby, like we spar we hang out,
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: like I worked, I have a.
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: Coach and stuff. But it's yeah, there's no belts in
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: what I'm doing or anything. But uh yeah, there's no
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: real goal. I just love it. I'm only two years in.
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: But yeah, are you skating more or yeah? Trying to?
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: I took a little break there and I'm I'm I'm
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: trying to make like a at least like two days
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: a week. I mean, I have a fucking ramp at
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: my warehouse and use it, you know.
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: Like, dude, I don't know if you've been to a
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: Zoomies recently, but I went and they have the fucking
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: O g O Cyruses in there. Oh, the big Chunky Ones,
• 47:48
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• 47:50
  Speaker 2: in there, and they have like.
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: And they're making a comeback all like the ES shoes
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: like they have like yeah, Musca just dropped on with
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: I'm like.
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: Yo, this is the same fucking like they're just red.
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: It's almost like vintage Jordan's. Yeah, Like they're retroing all
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: these skate shoes from like when I was in high
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: school and in middle school. And it's just crazy to
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: see because even some of the like Balinciaga's, which I
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: think are fucking gross, but even like some of those
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: high end brands, they're just stealing. Like what these skate
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: brands are doing in the fucking late nineties early two.
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: Thousand, Well, I think it's dumb on there. Like I've
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: seen all the designer brands drop their twelve hundred dollars
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: basically Osiris y d threes, but like they don't if
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: they think they're gonna grab the poorer skate culture market
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: by doing that, those guys are like no, Like I
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: don't know, I think it's just a dumb It's like
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: maybe the people that want to bite on that skate
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: culture will wear them, but no skaters buying an eleven
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: hundred dollars pair of knockoff heavy they're like bricks too.
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: I've tried putting them on and they're fucking.
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: Like they're almost like, so what am I supposed to
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: do with these?
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: Like yeah, no, shoes are weird when you get into
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: high end, like they actually become uncomfortable. They're fucking I
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: don't know, like they they still like these I wear
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: these a lot. These are Saint Lauren, but they're the
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: simplest like designer show I could find. That feels like
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: a nice Vans.
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but they still scuffed the same that I would
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: rather have a brand new pair of Vans every month
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: than having one of these scuffed up in a month
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: for a year, you know what I mean.
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: Sure, I haven't yet. I don't have any designer shoes.
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: I only have Jordan's and Dunks and Vans stay that way.
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: I've tried to dabble on them when I was building that,
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: like I was making my own shoe, and I just
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: I bought every single pair.
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: You know what's crazy is how how truly impossible it
• 49:42
  Speaker 2: feels to start a new shoe company. Oh it's almost
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: like an impenetratable market that it's like almost impossible to
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: get a market share to make it worth all of
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: the while and all of the overhead, because shoes are
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: not like there's T shirt brands that print to order, right, Yeah,
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: you can't do that with a shoe. Yeah, so, no
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: matter what, you're sitting on a size run. Yeah. So,
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: And I've seen friends of mine who have started independent
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: shoe companies that are fucking awful and they just eat
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: shit on it because it's like, dude, you had to
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: print out how you had to get it hovery many
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: pairs of these shoes made.
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: Dude, I know everything about this. It's there's a reason
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: why there's like six companies controlling the whole market. It's
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: fucking like a mold is five to fifteen thousand dollars
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: per size. So you go in and you got thirteen sizes,
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: you got half sizes, Like you do the math, Like
• 50:30
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• 50:32
  Speaker 1: even in the game to even like try and then
• 50:34
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• 50:36
  Speaker 1: So but we've like there's nothing really public about what
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: we were doing, but dude, we've like we're almost going, uh,
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: it's nothing visually looking like a Croc, but the Croc
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: business model is kind of what we're we're seeing something.
• 50:50
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• 50:54
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• 50:57
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• 50:59
  Speaker 2: Well, I was gonna say it's funny because like any
• 51:02
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• 51:04
  Speaker 2: Have you seen those like bubble slides? Oh yeah, super
• 51:07
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• 51:10
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• 51:12
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• 51:16
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• 51:19
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  Speaker 1: I think it's about simplicity for sure, price point, and yeah,
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  Speaker 2: Because people start new shoe companies and they try to
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  Speaker 2: do too much.
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  Speaker 1: That's what I was gonna bring up is everyone I
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  Speaker 1: know that starts their own shoe company does way too
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: much and they try to be different, and then everyone
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: just there. Even if they do pop, they're cool for
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: a fucking month, and then no one cares and you're
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: stuck with a bunch of molds. And it's like, I
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: think you got to like simplify it, but be unique.
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: Like what is actually missing in this in the shoe industry,
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean?
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: So any with any industry, I think people should ask
• 54:33
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  Speaker 1: I'm definitely gonna send you one of the samples coming
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  Speaker 2: Let me know, man, I will I will, I will
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: wear a twelve twelve. I'm a twelve, gotcha depends on
• 54:48
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• 54:54
  Speaker 1: This is not this is an actual seventeen.
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: No, No, they're smaller. Oh really yeah, Like if you
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: get like a Chinese extra large, it's like a medium.
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: Really yeah, I didn't know that. Yeah, it's crazy. It's
• 55:07
  Speaker 2: like if you're like a fat fuck yeah and you
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: want to wear fake Gucci, good luck you're they're not.
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: They don't They're not making Chinese five XL.
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: So if you see a fat person wearing Gucci.
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: School, you know, and you're like, they didn't make that
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: shirt that big. They didn't make that shirt that big.
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: That's another thing. I saw my boy glasses Blow and
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: he was doing this interview and he's talking about Rick Ross,
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: who's a big guy, and he was like, and this
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: is before Rick Ross lost all his weight. But he
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: pointed out, he was like, fam, everyone's wearing fake shit glue.
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: We don't even make the shirt in the size Rick
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: Ross wears. Like, they don't make it. They're not making
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: it just for him. You're yeah, which is crazy. I
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: was gonna say for you man, like talk about you know,
• 55:53
  Speaker 2: I think it's important for people to find things that
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: they can gravitate to that kind of you know, I
• 56:01
  Speaker 2: guess double as a form of therapy, you know what
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: I mean. Obviously you're you're you're sparring, you're doing your mma. Shit,
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: you skate stuff that is obviously away from work because
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: you're I'm sure you're a workaholic. I'm a workaholic. We
• 56:15
  Speaker 2: both bust our ass like for you talk about the
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: therapeutic like release that you get from like some of
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: the hobbies that you've picked up, and you know, obviously
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: we've seen.
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: Probably, I mean, it's all of it. Fucking running is
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: a big one, but I think sucks, dude, until you
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: get into it. I fucking hated running. I hated runners.
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: I thought the whole thing was so lame. I think
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: I'm a skater. I'm short, I built like a cylinder block,
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: Like you go do something fun.
• 56:45
  Speaker 2: Why do you have Brooks shoes on? Yeah?
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: And oh, speaking of that, my first like three months
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: of getting into running, I wore Vans until my fucking
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: knees and hips and everything started like random vans. Even
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: right now, I think I'm running in a basketball shoe.
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: I like, I don't know, I just like I.
• 57:04
  Speaker 2: Know, people like to live.
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: I can't wear a running shoe.
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: You can't wear a running shoe.
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: I'm not a running shoe guy.
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: There's those like really fat shoes. Are they called hookahs
• 57:11
  Speaker 2: or hookahs? Yeah?
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: See, I bought a pair of those. I just felt
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: goofy in them.
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: They definitely look goofy. You you felt goofy because you
• 57:17
  Speaker 2: looked goofy in them. Yeah, But the practicality of them
• 57:20
  Speaker 2: is supposed to be you can run in them, and
• 57:22
  Speaker 2: I do know fat people like my boy jelly Roll.
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: Shout out my brother jelly Roll. Oh, he's the man
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: that is one of his go to shoes really because
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: they're very comfy.
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: I think goes back to what I was saying with
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: the sparring in box. It's like, I if I don't
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: feel it's not about looking cool, but if I don't
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: feel cool in what like like it's not even cool,
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: it's not the right word, but just like yeah you
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: like I remember I go skate and you put on
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: like a dope out figure, Like I'm gonna feel cool
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: and I have to fucking feel that when I'm going
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: running too. It's like, I don't know, you.
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: Guys should do a Apple watch band, a Sunday one. Yeah,
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: I think so?
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: Do they change because we stayed away from iPhone cases
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: and shit for the reason.
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: They they don't so no to get like no, not
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: in the same way an iPhone changes. Okay, so like
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: I bought this, these bands I think can fit like
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: three generations of Oh nice now that the Apple watch
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: bands are pretty pretty universal because they really only changed
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: the are they changing it big time? No? Yeah, yeah,
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: until you decide to do a Sunday one and then there.
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: Where they make a little incision and then that goes
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: into your risk.
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, these things just slide in and out, but.
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: You're man, take a photo of your wrist so that
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: I remember it.
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: Is a good idea.
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that'd be nice.
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I think the pantone and I love just yeah
• 58:40
  Speaker 2: in a green what I should have popped any outfit? Yeah?
• 58:45
  Speaker 2: Was there a color that you almost like? Was it
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: always like greenish blue? Or was there ever like a
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: peachy red or something that y'all fucked with?
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: No, it was always green. It came from army men.
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: Like when I was a kid, I always played with
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: like toy army men, and that was like originally where
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: I really liked it. And then I just also did
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: a lot of research on has anyone coined a color
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: like this? Because I really wanted people to see that color.
• 59:09
  Speaker 2: Like, the only brand that I've ever seen do it
• 59:13
  Speaker 2: is Cookies. You know Cookies, Yeah, Cookies has the Cookies blue. Yeah, okay,
• 59:17
  Speaker 2: which they've done a really good job. Like if you
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: go to a Cookie's dispensary, the building is blue. Yeah right,
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: but it's like a specific, just unique blue. I'm assuming
• 59:27
  Speaker 2: did you guys just throw paint together until you got
• 59:29
  Speaker 2: the color or was it.
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: Like it started digital, so everything was from graphic design, right,
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: and then the first thing that it transferred to was fabric,
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: So doing a cotton T shirt, which was fucking.
• 59:42
  Speaker 2: Kind of don't know like how it's gonna like, look.
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: When you one hundred percent, it's dude, like like there's
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: you know, fifteen of these shopping bags at our placed,
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: all in slightly different shades. It's everything's a battle until
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: you figure it out. But then it's like, say you
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: figure out cardboard or card stock. Now it's like for
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: any other item that needs that, you've got packaging figured out.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: I figured out.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, So we're kind of building like a Pantone book
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: for our company, so it's easier.
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 2: You mentioned buying your house fixer upper. Congratulations, thank you,
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 2: since you obviously sold your part of Full Sand and Milk,
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: what has been the most ignorant purchase you've made, And,
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 2: if not ignorant, just the biggest outside of your home,
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: because your home is obviously your home. That's that's a
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 2: fucking nut for sure, dude.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: Literally nothing. I'm trying to think I have not gone
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: crazy or you haven't bought The home was the thing.
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: That's all I wanted. I wanted a home, and uh,
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to think, I mean, everything is just I mean,
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: I've got over a million invested into my company.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 2: Just reinvesting.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, wow, I don't know. I don't really need a
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: lot of shit. I got a truck, but I was
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: still in the company when I got that. I don't
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: old you g Wagon Chevy too, Yeah, I had a
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: g Wagon.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: Hold the tax right off six pounds.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that was sick. I got a g waggon off
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: of what's it called auctions?
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: Oh really?
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah? I got it for like ninety one grand, drove
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: it for two years, got to experience the whole g
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: wagon and you get to write it off right yeah yeah,
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: and then sold it for a hunter k two years later.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: Made money on it, money to keep it. Hey, I
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 2: got to Everybody always talks about it. It is one
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: of those cards you grew up looking at you. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: so you just got a big Chevy truck.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: Now yeah, got a C ten and then a Teslas
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: and every day, how do you like the Tesla? I'm
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: up and down on it. I mean, I think you
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: got a Model X. I always get this wrong. I
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: have the The doors don't go up. That's the why
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: the model s not.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 2: I think. I hy, well, the X is the one
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 2: where the doors go up. Okay, have the Y?
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, have the Y because it's like stubbier. It's
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: almost like SUV kind of you know.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 2: The X is like the actual SUV, but the doors
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 2: pop open. The X is like the super expensive one.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah I don't have that.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think I why I've been extremely on
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 2: the fence about about it. Man, I got test drove one,
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 2: and I'm like, this is cool. It's also very like
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 2: it has to be weird to get used to driving
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 2: that car because there's buttons instead like like the stuff
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 2: you're used to, like convention.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: The breaking system, you is weird.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 2: It's just everything's just different, right, So it's like.
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: But once you get used to it, it does become
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: It's not even it's not in the realm of cars,
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: it's just once you have one, every other car feels weird.
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: It's like weird.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 2: I was gonna say, because like even like saving money
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 2: on gas, it's like, do you notice I mean you
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 2: probably you're you're doing pretty well, But I think, like,
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 2: do you think the everyday person notices that, like they
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 2: don't have to fill up their tank, But but.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: Spaghetto fucking charger here. You just plug it in and
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: every time you pull in.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 2: I say, but then if you go on a road trip,
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 2: you gotta kind of.
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I've had there's times where you're like, fuck
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: this tesla. I've been stranded in Arizona and shit before
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: it's like, because the thing is when that thing shuts
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: off and runs out of juice.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 2: You've ran out.
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, I had. I had as worse as
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: you can get where the point where it ran out
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: and we it's you know, it's just got the hazards on.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: But it took so long for a truck to come. Yeah,
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: Like even the backup little battery died, so now you
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: can't even shut the windows. You can't even even if
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: I got it, got it to a charger, and I
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: couldn't even get it to start charging because you can't
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: get the door open. It was like an eight hour thing.
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: It was like I was like, why is this even
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: a thing? Like why would they make it where this
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: can happen?
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 2: I would just be like, fuck this car. I'm getting
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 2: a fucking I'm gonna drive my Chevy everywhere.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, every gas guzzling car you see going by,
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: You're like, I fucking just wish I could.
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 2: Just see that. You might have just sealed the deal
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 2: for me.
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: Every day la driving though, I will say it's nice.
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 2: Driving around like and like plugging in a night. I'm
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 2: sure it's fucking wonderful.
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: Have another car for road trips and ship like that.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 2: Jesus man, that's crazy. I was gonna ask you there
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 2: when you were with those guys, Steany wasn't around right.
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: No, No, I think he was working for.
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 2: Steve.
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: No the he might have worked for Steve too at
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: a certain point. God, why am I blanket on his name?
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 2: Jesus the.
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: He started the podcast with Kyle John.
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 2: Is that his name?
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: No? No, he was a host on the full sentence show.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: Oh Bob Menry Bob.
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 2: That guy's a fucking sick ass dude. Yeah, he's hilarious.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 2: He's like, he's just like unstable, like he's a wild boy.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 2: Oh them, are you cold? Are you freezing? Usually you
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 2: wouldn't complain of something was blowing on you. Hey, You're like, hey, bro,
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 2: it's it's too cold in you. No, that's crazy. Yeah.
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 2: So he was working for Bob initially? Yeah, did you did?
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 2: You were able to kind of like I watching that podcast,
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 2: by the way, made me realize he's not like a
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 2: real like og like milk fan. Yeah.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he didn't know too much.
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 2: I was like, how do I know more about this
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 2: ship than this kid? He works for him? At least
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 2: I if I was working for or if I was
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 2: a part of that podcast, I would I would be
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 2: well versed. Yeah, I would have to go back and
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 2: do my research. You know. But did you game him
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 2: up at all? Because he gets a ton of hate,
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 2: Like people genuinely don't gravitate towards him in a positive manner. Yeah,
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 2: but I mean he was nice to me. No, he
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 2: seems like a nice dude. But I'm saying, did you
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 2: did you give him any advice. Did you guys have
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 2: any like side talks, like, hey man, how are you
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 2: liking this? Like because he is kind of like an
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 2: unofficial milk Boy now or official however you want to
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 2: look at it. Mm hmmm, he's part of the podcast. Yeah,
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 2: I get confused, what's what at this point?
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: Anymore? I didn't. I didn't have too much of a
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: like deep talk with him, but we had a small
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: talk and he was cool. But yeah, I don't even
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: know if that's like I sometimes I don't know if
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: it's like a persona he's playing and then people will
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: come at him for that, or if it's like I
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: think he I don't think it is. I think he's
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: new to the game. That's what I think. That's all
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: I can read. And it happened for him quick, yeah,
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: And I think he's that going out.
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 2: All got dumped on his plate very fast. And I
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 2: think anytime that happens to anybody, no matter where you're at,
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 2: it maybe be the music industry, entertainment industry a lot.
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 2: You know, certain people aren't built, and I'm saying he's not.
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 2: But I'm saying, like, when that much clout and fame
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 2: gets just handed to you quickly. Man, that's a lot.
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: No one can prepare you for the not think you
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: just got.
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 2: To kind of get through it.
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 1: That's why I would be the last person to go
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: on the pod and fucking take shots.
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 2: At What about Celin? Do you ever you keep in
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 2: contact with Selima at all?
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: A little bit, Yeah, no one, no one's It's not
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: like a weekly thing or anything, but uh, not all friendly.
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: He trains a jiu jitsu, so we've talked a few times.
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: That's joke, gets some sparring in or something.
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 2: But are you going to try to do Shithold again?
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: I think, uh, later down the road it'd be cool.
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 2: Grant.
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: Now, I'm worrying about get this company profitable, get everything.
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 2: You know. We're just grinding right now.
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: That's all we're doing. So and my problem is that
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: I start too many projects, so I'm trying to like
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: narrow in on what I'm what I'm focused. But uh,
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: I think it would just be cool, even if it's
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: not like, uh, you know, it doesn't make sense financially
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: to do it. It's just if we get to come
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: to a certain point for the OG fans, and I
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: would love doing it, Like I think it's so you
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: enjoy it. Yeah, just doing another season and building that
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 1: team out.
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 2: And you guys like you're you're I mean, like you
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 2: know when you when you did it last time, you
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 2: were very much. It was a high production value situation. Yeah,
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 2: you guys were like there was actors. I mean, I
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 2: think of the we were talking about the Grahams guy
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 2: and there was the one episode where you were at
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 2: a biker bar.
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, chuck late, oh yeah, check hell, which was
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 1: fucking crazy.
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 2: But I think that like that's the way to do it,
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 2: Like I see, I mean, did you see this kid
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 2: that just got shot doing a prank in the mall?
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 1: Heard about this fucking crazy and like he's doing like
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: some Salim type of shit, like yeah, just.
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 2: Getting too close to someone's personal spaceical tell him to
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 2: stop it. Does it again, You'll be careful. And the
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 2: dude pulls out of gun and shoots him. Fuck did
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 2: he die? He did not die. But the dude who
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 2: shot him, they dropped the charges because they're like, he
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 2: warned you like leaving alone, and you didn't. And I
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 2: think it might have been in Florida. Now, if that
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 2: happened in California, that he be fucked yeah, Texas or Florida,
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 2: you're probably Yeah, in California, if someone breaks into your
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 2: house and you shoot them, you're fucked. You gotta kindly
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 2: ask them to leave. Yeah, I don't like that about it.
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: I love California, but I love even being a homeowner.
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: Now I'm a little like exactly this should be like
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: my domain. I fuck it.
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 2: And a financially successful person, you probably have to do
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 2: a ton of gymnastics to you know, make sure you
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 2: keep your money. But you come from Canada, which from
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 2: what I understand, there's high taxes in Canada, which is
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 2: why there's great health infrastructure in certain things. Right.
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't even remember. Is it is it province
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: by province in Canada? I think it is.
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 1: All I know is Ontario is definitely.
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 2: Nobody likes Trudeau, is what I've heard.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: I've heard that too, And I know zero about.
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 2: Need to apologics I specifically. All I know is you
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 2: can get free health care and people don't like Justin Trudeau.
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 2: And yeah, and he was wearing black face and Jordan
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 2: Peterson is, uh, something's going on with his social media?
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: That ship looks I don't know enough to talk about it,
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: but because I like Jordan Peterson, but.
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 2: No, I love Jordan Peterson. He's I think I'm.
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 1: Stripping them of his ship for like he's just talking just.
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 2: For showing his perspective on like podcasts. And I think
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 2: in Canada they're about to implement a law that like
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 2: can there's some sort of law that.
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: There that the ship Joe Rogan was talking about, it's
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: like the essentially where they affects your life if you
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: say talk about ship that like they don't want social
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: social credit score shit, Joe Rogan exactly. They're doing that
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: with Jordan Peterson. If I'm Jordan Peterson, I'm moving out
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: of Canada. Yeah, I'm moving to They love him in Texas.
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: What yeah, yeah yeah Jesus.
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 2: Did you guys ever like like, uh, some off the record, Well,
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 2: I we'll talk about it. We'll delete it if you
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 2: don't want to talk about it. But when you had
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 2: initially broken away, you and I were talking about you
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 2: wanting to start maybe like a Netflix style content company
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 2: mm hmmm. And you were throwing around some names that
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 2: you were in talks with a guy like Tim Dillon.
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 2: This was early on before Tim Dillon was fucking huge. Yeah, whatever,
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 2: happened with that, and if you don't want to talk
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 2: about it's fine, we'll cut it out.
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: But I know that was kind of thing where you
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: know what I'm talking about, though, I'm trying to think
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 1: of where that conversation was.
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 2: We were talking about so many ideas well. We were
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 2: just like we were doing the pranks and shit, and
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 2: you were like, man, make you know I'm going to
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 2: be doing like you wanted to kind of have your
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 2: own on demand content shit, and you said that you
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 2: were going to start working with like certain comedians and shit.
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 2: And I think Tim Dillon might have been one of
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 2: them that.
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 1: Might have been under that might have been under Nelu.
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 2: I think it was. Yeah, for sure, it was for
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 2: sure because this was around that same time where you
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 2: were still filming on the full Send channel.
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: I believe, right, Yeah, yeah, we were. I think that
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: was building, uh pretty much like an R rated YouTube
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 1: at the time.
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 2: Was so kind of like rumble, yeah, but not so.
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: Much that everyone could upload on it. It was just
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 1: another place you can go maybe it is a paywall,
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 1: like we were looking at a bunch of things of
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: just because I think at the time when we were
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 1: talking with that, it was we were getting strikes. There
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 1: was there was a lot of shit going on where
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 1: YouTube didn't look like a future home for what we
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 1: were doing. And it was like and we had a
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 1: huge audience, and we were like, why don't we just
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 1: because what happens?
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 2: They do they do to Steve? Do you guys? Yeah? Exactly,
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 2: It's like, what do you did? You guys? Ever get
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 2: any of your because I always wonder if you get
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 2: one of those strikes, is it even possible to get
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 2: it removed?
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 1: I can't remember. I think maybe time amount of time. Yeah,
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: I think it's like yeah if but I don't know.
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 1: I know that once a channel gets flagged and striked.
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 2: It's none of the ship got hit in terms of.
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 1: Probably some copyright ship and stuff off, but nothing nothing serious.
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 2: I don't think I've ever gotten a strike. That's dope. Well,
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 2: what so for you? Now? Where can people support what
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 2: you're doing? Obviously if you with ig the website, how
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 2: often are you dropping? Can how can people support just
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 2: on YouTube?
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 1: If you want to like follow the story we're building,
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 1: like you said, it's kind of cool to to and
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 1: even right now if you jump in, I feel like
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 1: it's still the beginning stages. And it will be cool
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 1: in five ten years to be like damn I saw
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 1: like the first people like grinding this out. But every
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 1: Sunday we upload an episode on the Sunday channel on
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 1: YouTube and yeah Sunday Bloody Sunday Instagram.
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 2: What's what's your guys website?
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 1: Bloody Sunday dot com?
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 2: Was that hard to get? Yeah?
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 1: How much was it? Twenty five grand? It's actually too bad?
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 2: Twenty five Yeah? Who would you have to buy it
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 2: off of? Fuck? I don't know, like what what do
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 2: you know what it was before?
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 1: No? I think it was just someone sitting on domains
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  Speaker 1: such a great hustle.
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  Speaker 2: By the way, yeah, yo that when you buy up
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 2: domains super select on Hustle. Oh yeah, because there's so
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  Speaker 2: many like wet like domains that you would think there's
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  Speaker 2: some like you will go to like the you'll like
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  Speaker 2: type it Like I remember one time I was just
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  Speaker 2: tweaking with my boy, not literally tweaking on drugs, but
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  Speaker 2: we're just going to different like obvious dot coms. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: they're like, oh, there's not like someone's about to eat
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 2: whenever this comes out, like yeah, buddy Sunday, Yeah, we
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  Speaker 2: should start doing that. Cyrus start buying you ur else
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  Speaker 2: just sitting on him.
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  Speaker 1: I got a quote for uh Sunday dot com, which
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  Speaker 1: is fucking obviously hardest showing figures. It was uh they
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  Speaker 1: said five hundred K and up would be you'd have
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 1: to be like in that ballpark to even start the conversation.
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  Speaker 1: But obviously at the time, like I'm not, there's no
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  Speaker 1: need to do it.
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  Speaker 2: And right now Sunday dot Com is nothing.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we have Sunday Studios dot com, but I mean, like,
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  Speaker 1: but Sunday right now, people who own.
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  Speaker 2: It, If you go to Sunday dot com, is it something?
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  Speaker 2: You know?
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  Speaker 1: What's funny is Sunday dot Com isn't anything. But if
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  Speaker 1: you type in Sunday dot com, it redirects you to
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  Speaker 1: like another word Sunday. And it's like this that grass
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  Speaker 1: lawn company that's called Sunday. There's like a grass fertilizer company.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, so they an't even using it.
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  Speaker 1: It's I don't know, Yeah, I don't even know, because
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  Speaker 1: it's it redirects to another website. But how does that
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  Speaker 1: even make sense? Like it should go to Sunday dot
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  Speaker 1: com and be like this domains for sale, but it
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 1: instantly redirects so maybe that maybe they own both and
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  Speaker 1: they haven't.
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  Speaker 2: Five hundred k. Eventually you're gonna have to buy it
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 2: if you guys get pack off.
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  Speaker 1: I think, but i'd have to find the I'd be
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  Speaker 1: more interested in the app store. That'd be more for
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 1: my ten year planet. What I want to build here.
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  Speaker 1: I think that something kind of like what we were
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  Speaker 1: talking about. It's like something in the world of building
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 1: your own subscription service type thing. And uh and I
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 1: think Sunday would be a great name for that.
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 2: So great name. Yeah, I mean if you were to,
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 2: if you were to kind of say, hey, Sunday is everything.
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 2: We have a platform, and the platform is Sunday dot com. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Just the simplicity of that.
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  Speaker 1: Sunday on the app store. Fucking it's just a color,
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 1: no logo, like I think it there is, Like I mean,
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 1: there's so many spider webs to where I see this
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 1: going in ten years. But yeah, that's definitely on the
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  Speaker 1: on the horizon.
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 2: Well, listen, like you said, don't take on too much
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  Speaker 2: at once. Yeah, yeah, one thing at of time. You
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  Speaker 2: have a lot going on. All right, let's go support.
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 2: I appreciate you pulling back up man, this guy for
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 2: a long time was our You know that that interview
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  Speaker 2: you did for me, man was our most viewed interview
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  Speaker 2: for I think it might still be really the single
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  Speaker 2: most viewed upload, the clip of you talking about leaving
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  Speaker 2: NELK was this. I think it's the single most viewed
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 2: clip that's not a short on our channel still but
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 2: a great place right time though. I think it was
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 2: just Yeah, Man, good conversation. I appreciate you coming through again. Man,
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah shit, congrats on everything, dude. It's just dope to
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 2: kind of see, like, you know, I like when people
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 2: reinvent themselves, you know, and I think that the brand
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 2: is super fly man, So thanks man, appreciate it's not cheesy.
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 2: You're doing it the right way. And uh, yeah, you
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 2: bring in some gear and stuff. And how often do
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 2: you dropping like new pieces for people to buy, is it?
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it'll be every month there's a new collection and
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 1: uh and then we also do a giveaway for one
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  Speaker 1: Sunday skew every month.
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  Speaker 2: And then you guys like buried like a fucking giant
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  Speaker 2: wood box.
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 1: Oh shit, we get creative with it. So we we
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 1: literally just factored as a tax on the company, meaning
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 1: like we want to create good culture and cool shit
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 1: and fun shit.
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 2: So you could write it off like well, not even
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 2: the right off.
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 1: It's almost like I'm more saying a tax as in
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 1: like it's important for what I'm doing here. So like
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 1: if I have to buy ten thousand dollars worth of
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 1: Sunday hoodies and just give them away for free, it's
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 1: like fuck it, Like, yeah, you guys make it berried
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 1: like a giant wooden crate or two or three. Yeah,
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 1: in the desert, just just like a beast of a
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 1: fucking crate. Yeah, and it's only for the like on
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 1: bloody sugn dot com. When you go there, it's just
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 1: a close site. But if you sign up for email
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 1: in SMS, that's the only way you get a part.
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 2: Of it, so you can get a heads up where
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 2: it might be. Yeah.
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 1: So like still that month was surprise was you got
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 1: three clues slowly throughout the week where you had to
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 1: and then everyone was trying to find out where it was.
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 2: Is it always in Cali that giveaway?
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, No, it's anyway, can be anywhere.
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, because I know you guys are you know
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 2: based here obviously, Yeah, so I figured Cali here, Yeah,
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 2: Palm Springs Joshua Tree. You know, yeah, was that where
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 2: it was?
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 1: It was real like northern north from here. I can't
• 1:17:27
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• 1:17:29
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• 1:17:32
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• 1:17:35
  Speaker 2: really big.
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 1: I luckily got out of burying that one.
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