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- 0:17Speaker 1: Hey, great morning to you all. It is Chuck Powell
- 0:20Speaker 1: with you, Ashley Ryan with you, and oh if you're
- 0:24Speaker 1: just now joining us, you are in for a retreat. The
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- 0:29Speaker 1: since six o'clock this morning, Day number one, show number
- 0:33Speaker 1: one of kja r's fantastic award winning training camp coverage
- 0:38Speaker 1: and it got started this morning at six am. Now
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- 0:57Speaker 2: It's Chuck h Ashley with you as we start.
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- 1:58Speaker 1: All right, we roll into our nine o'clock hour here, Seahawks,
- 2:03Speaker 1: I'm calling it champ Camp. I know that Mike doesn't
- 2:06Speaker 1: want me to do that. Mike doesn't want Mike wants
- 2:09Speaker 1: me to look forward. You know, he doesn't want me
- 2:12Speaker 1: to stir that.
- 2:13Speaker 2: I know that.
- 2:15Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, yes, exactly.
- 2:18Speaker 2: He might usher me out. It's kind of got a
- 2:20Speaker 2: ring to it a little bit. But this is all
- 2:23Speaker 2: about moving forward.
- 2:25Speaker 1: And yet here we are on day number one, and
- 2:29Speaker 1: not only are we looking forward, but there is an
- 2:31Speaker 1: off season of activities that we've dealt with. And let's
- 2:36Speaker 1: face it, Hugh, the Seattle Seahawks as world champs have
- 2:39Speaker 1: not gotten near the attention as what the Los Angeles
- 2:43Speaker 1: Rams have gotten this offseason. And let's face it, for
- 2:47Speaker 1: very good reasons. The Rams were not only one of
- 2:49Speaker 1: the best teams in the National Football League this past year,
- 2:53Speaker 1: and the Seahawks, i'd believe better but very narrowly better
- 2:58Speaker 1: than the Los Angeles Rams.
- 3:00Speaker 2: And what did that aggressive.
- 3:02Speaker 1: Organization do this offseason. They're the best defensive player on
- 3:05Speaker 1: the planet, maybe the best cornerback or at least one
- 3:08Speaker 1: of the best cornerbacks in the National Football League, a
- 3:12Speaker 1: couple of other pieces that they've added. Meanwhile, the Seahawks
- 3:15Speaker 1: sort of banking on we're just going to get better
- 3:19Speaker 1: than what that we were a year ago. Those are
- 3:22Speaker 1: in a nutshell the off seasons of these two teams
- 3:26Speaker 1: and so Vegas and all the pundits Rams, Rams Rams. Meanwhile,
- 3:31Speaker 1: the Seahawks sitting here as defending champs. I'm going to
- 3:35Speaker 1: try to keep on top of the hill despite all
- 3:39Speaker 1: of those Rams editions this offseason. What do you make
- 3:42Speaker 1: of it?
- 3:42Speaker 3: Well, you mentioned Vegas and if you go fan duel
- 3:46Speaker 3: and you go DraftKings. The two that I checked. The
- 3:51Speaker 3: Rams are plus five point fifty to win the Super Bowl.
- 3:56Speaker 3: The next coast team is Buffalo at plus one thousand,
- 4:00Speaker 3: So you figure five and a half to one for
- 4:03Speaker 3: the Rams ten to one for the Bills. The Seahawks
- 4:08Speaker 3: are at eleven plus eleven hundred and plus twelve hundred.
- 4:13Speaker 3: So their thought, at least in the betting world, that
- 4:17Speaker 3: the Rams have essentially, you know, double the chance to
- 4:21Speaker 3: win it. Right, they're five and a half one, See
- 4:23Speaker 3: how about eleven eleven to twelve to one, So they
- 4:27Speaker 3: have a different philosophy. They're they're just obviously all in now.
- 4:31Speaker 3: They did the paradox on that is that they spent
- 4:34Speaker 3: the thirteenth pick on their quarterback in the future. But
- 4:37Speaker 3: I think that that impacted their willingness to go get
- 4:40Speaker 3: Miles Garrett because they didn't. They they gave up draft capital,
- 4:45Speaker 3: They gave up Jared Verse and then a first round
- 4:50Speaker 3: draft pick next year in twenty twenty seven, a second
- 4:53Speaker 3: round draft pick the following year, and a third round
- 4:56Speaker 3: pick the following year after that to get a thirty
- 4:59Speaker 3: year old defensive end. Now that thirty year old defensive end,
- 5:04Speaker 3: if you take all the he has a December thirtieth
- 5:09Speaker 3: first birthday or something, so he technically thirty last year.
- 5:14Speaker 3: But Miles Garrett has the most sacks of anybody in
- 5:20Speaker 3: history under the age of thirty one hundred and twenty
- 5:23Speaker 3: four and a half. The next closest is Reggie White
- 5:26Speaker 3: at one and weight. And there's only two others that
- 5:28Speaker 3: are over one hundred, Jared Allen and TJ. Watt, you
- 5:31Speaker 3: know those names. So that's the impact player they acquired.
- 5:35Speaker 3: They also get Trent McDuffie, and you know, they basically
- 5:39Speaker 3: overhaul their corner room and get both of the Chiefs
- 5:44Speaker 3: starting corners. They give they give a twenty twenty six
- 5:50Speaker 3: fifth where let's see, I don't have what they gave up,
- 5:57Speaker 3: but it was a first rounder and fifth rounder and
- 6:01Speaker 3: then six and then ay and twenty seven a third rounder.
- 6:05Speaker 3: So those to me, you know, those are Sam Donald.
- 6:10Speaker 3: You could make an argument, one could make an argument
- 6:14Speaker 3: that those are Sam Donald acquisitions because look at what
- 6:17Speaker 3: what the what the Rams did in their losses. First
- 6:21Speaker 3: of all, Sam Donald in in the last two games
- 6:25Speaker 3: against the Seahawks like eight and thirty one yards, six touchdowns,
- 6:30Speaker 3: no interceptions. It's the most amount of yards that any
- 6:34Speaker 3: quarterback has ever had against a team back to back
- 6:39Speaker 3: the same team in consecutive games with no interceptions. So
- 6:45Speaker 3: so it wasn't It wasn't Matthew Stafford's fault. It wasn't
- 6:51Speaker 3: the Kenneth Walker. Hell, they only they Kenneth Walker. The
- 6:55Speaker 3: Sealps only had sixty five yards rush in the NFC
- 6:58Speaker 3: Championship game at two point nine years, So wasn't Sale's
- 7:01Speaker 3: running game. So though you get a corner and you
- 7:05Speaker 3: get a pass rusher, Jared Vers arguably is a more
- 7:09Speaker 3: versatile player. He certainly plays different spots on the on
- 7:14Speaker 3: the defensive line. So if they get Aaron Donald, he'd say, well,
- 7:21Speaker 3: he's he's a run and pass guy, but he's If
- 7:23Speaker 3: you ask Sean McVay, he'd say, well, I'm probably more
- 7:27Speaker 3: excited about him as a pass rusher. So I think
- 7:30Speaker 3: this is in response to what Sam Donald did at
- 7:33Speaker 3: three hundred and forty six yards I think, and and
- 7:36Speaker 3: three touchdowns in that NFC Championship game.
- 7:38Speaker 1: Well, it's definitely a response, and I think that's a
- 7:42Speaker 1: key word to use in this conversation. I think that
- 7:48Speaker 1: I think that Mike McDonald off should feel awfully flattered,
- 7:52Speaker 1: because even though the Rams sit there and say, oh,
- 7:56Speaker 1: we were, we were a weird.
- 7:58Speaker 2: Two point conversion away from being fru mole chamblions, that
- 8:03Speaker 2: wame argument.
- 8:05Speaker 1: I do believe it was a reaction, I mean to
- 8:09Speaker 1: how good a machine Mike McDonald has operating here in Seattle.
- 8:15Speaker 1: I've argued that the Seahawks their twenty twenty six is
- 8:22Speaker 1: based off of in twenty twenty four, they were like,
- 8:24Speaker 1: you know, when we're really gonna be good twenty twenty six.
- 8:28Speaker 1: They just happened to win a super Bowl along the way,
- 8:31Speaker 1: and so I think what they're thinking. They didn't have
- 8:33Speaker 1: the big aggressive off season addition, you know, experience that
- 8:39Speaker 1: the Rams did, and it's because we have anticipated for
- 8:44Speaker 1: two years that we were going to be much better
- 8:46Speaker 1: in twenty twenty six that we were in twenty twenty five.
- 8:49Speaker 1: And you know who else thinks that's true, Sean.
- 8:51Speaker 2: McVay less need Yeah.
- 8:54Speaker 1: I mean, I think they felt, in order to stay
- 8:57Speaker 1: ahead of this, they're going to that's the team that
- 9:01Speaker 1: beat us this year and won the Super Bowl, They're
- 9:03Speaker 1: going to be even better in twenty twenty six. So
- 9:07Speaker 1: I think that speaks to why the Rams are so
- 9:09Speaker 1: aggressive this year to go out and her art and McDuffie.
- 9:13Speaker 3: Yeah, and and again the what phase, what facet of
- 9:18Speaker 3: the football team are they?
- 9:20Speaker 4: Uh?
- 9:21Speaker 3: If that's true, if that, if that, if the Seahawks
- 9:23Speaker 3: are part of their consciousness in those acquisitions, what facet
- 9:28Speaker 3: is it? It's the Seahawks passing game.
- 9:30Speaker 1: Because and a lot of people about JSN. But you're saying,
- 9:34Speaker 1: Sam Donald, like those are JSN.
- 9:37Speaker 3: That's maybe that's as just pass me guilty of seeing
- 9:41Speaker 3: it from a quarterback perspective. Let's just agree that it's
- 9:44Speaker 3: the passing game.
- 9:45Speaker 2: Yeah, right.
- 9:46Speaker 3: And so moreover, if you look at the if you
- 9:50Speaker 3: look at the guaranteed contracts of the players that Seattle lost,
- 9:58Speaker 3: you've got Wollen, Kobe Bryant, Kenneth Walker, Boy Mafey, and
- 10:04Speaker 3: Derek Young Thritch throw him in there, and then and
- 10:09Speaker 3: then you say the net gain or loss And now
- 10:13Speaker 3: this is not total contract, this is guaranteed money. Because
- 10:16Speaker 3: I think that's a more accurate way of defining and
- 10:19Speaker 3: and you know, if you're gonna throw it in a spreadsheet,
- 10:22Speaker 3: you gotta have a methodology. That's my methodology. That's what
- 10:25Speaker 3: I think is the most I'm not cherry picking. I'm
- 10:28Speaker 3: saying what makes the most sense where you're trying to
- 10:31Speaker 3: evaluate what left the building, what went into the building,
- 10:35Speaker 3: calculate the net and say, and then rank all the teams.
- 10:39Speaker 2: That was my project.
- 10:41Speaker 3: And as it turns out, the Raiders are they had
- 10:45Speaker 3: the best, the best net inflow in free agency. The
- 10:50Speaker 3: Packers had the worst net. But there's an asterisk to
- 10:55Speaker 3: that because Malik Willis had representing forty five million guaranteed
- 11:02Speaker 3: money going to Miami. But he's not the he's not
- 11:07Speaker 3: the Packers quarterback. Jordan Lovesy Packers quarterback. So if if
- 11:11Speaker 3: you're a Packer fan, or if you're if you're saying,
- 11:14Speaker 3: as has constituted the way we ideally are are UH
- 11:21Speaker 3: are are are formulated with our starters Malik Willis, we
- 11:24Speaker 3: can afford it. So uh there's an asterisk the fact
- 11:27Speaker 3: that the Packers are ranked thirty second. Well, the team
- 11:31Speaker 3: that's ranked thirty first is the Seattle Seahawks, so that
- 11:34Speaker 3: their their net outflows UH or inflows call it either one.
- 11:39Speaker 2: But Seattle has the second worst.
- 11:42Speaker 3: So because because Emmanuel Wilson, you know, was making nothing right,
- 11:46Speaker 3: you didn't bring anybody yet right, So it doesn't feel
- 11:49Speaker 3: like you lost a lot to some people. I think
- 11:54Speaker 3: that you lost something more than nothing. You lost Kenneth Walker,
- 11:57Speaker 3: you lost Kobe Bryant, Yeah lost Reek Willen Boy Maffy
- 12:01Speaker 3: wasn't a starter, but you know he's a pretty good
- 12:04Speaker 3: pass rush. Yeah, twenty million dollars somebody liked him.
- 12:07Speaker 2: Yeah. Right, So.
- 12:10Speaker 3: And you lost your offensive coordinator. So I think that
- 12:13Speaker 3: if we're talking twenty twenty six, who had the best offseason?
- 12:17Speaker 3: I don't, I don't. I don't know how you could
- 12:19Speaker 3: say for this season that the Rams didn't have.
- 12:23Speaker 2: A better off season.
- 12:23Speaker 3: Now, sure, now you could say Seattle was more that. Okay,
- 12:28Speaker 3: what's the best argument for Seattle? Long They didn't give
- 12:33Speaker 3: up the expenditures that the Rams have, that the Rams
- 12:37Speaker 3: have made decisions that that are for for the now.
- 12:41Speaker 3: They're compromising the future. And oh, by the way, don't
- 12:45Speaker 3: really love their quarterback Ty Simpson, the guy that that
- 12:48Speaker 3: that is central to their big plane.
- 12:54Speaker 2: Is he worth the thirteenth pick?
- 12:56Speaker 3: Overall? That's an odd pick to me when you think
- 13:00Speaker 3: of Jared Goff was in the building for McVeigh and
- 13:05Speaker 3: and you know, made Pro Bowls, made Super Bowls, but
- 13:08Speaker 3: he wasn't enough, so you sent him to Detroit for
- 13:13Speaker 3: two first rounders and Jared goff to get Matthew Stafford.
- 13:19Speaker 3: Why because Stafford just has this this unique freaky arm
- 13:22Speaker 3: talent and ability. Right well, Ty Sampson doesn't have that. Yeah,
- 13:28Speaker 3: you know, so like like he he he's a he's
- 13:31Speaker 3: a good athlete, moves around, but his arm is is
- 13:34Speaker 3: kind of Jared goffett ish, you know, it's certainly not
- 13:37Speaker 3: Matthew Stafford ish. So I think there's you could say,
- 13:41Speaker 3: there's some peculiar things happening with them for the future.
- 13:45Speaker 3: But if Matthew Stafford can can keep his back healthy,
- 13:49Speaker 3: because we know last year somehow yet you know he
- 13:51Speaker 3: couldn't throw in August all of a sudden, Now he's
- 13:53Speaker 3: the m v p uh. There's good reason why they
- 13:57Speaker 3: want to go Now it's because of Matthew Staffor. I
- 14:01Speaker 3: take advantage of this dude.
- 14:02Speaker 2: Now.
- 14:02Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe it's because even as a kid, I was
- 14:06Speaker 1: not like some die hard fan of a team. I
- 14:12Speaker 1: sort of get that if you did grow up that way,
- 14:15Speaker 1: like you were in Seahawk diapers and you know, you
- 14:18Speaker 1: had a sea Hawk bib and a you know, Seahawk
- 14:21Speaker 1: pappy and everything else that when you see an off
- 14:25Speaker 1: season where another team adds a Miles Garrett, I mean
- 14:30Speaker 1: there is an element of certain fans that want to
- 14:33Speaker 1: see the other team have a bus crash on the
- 14:35Speaker 1: way to the stadium so that the job is easier
- 14:39Speaker 1: to get a win that day. I'm not really built
- 14:42Speaker 1: that way. And maybe it's because I didn't grow up
- 14:45Speaker 1: you know, some die hard fan of any team, much
- 14:48Speaker 1: less the Seahawks, having not grown up here.
- 14:52Speaker 2: And maybe I'm sick the other way. But I'm kind
- 14:55Speaker 2: of excited about this. I'm kind of excited about you
- 14:59Speaker 2: get as.
- 14:59Speaker 3: Good what is you need to get on paper?
- 15:02Speaker 1: You go ahead and do that, because I think the
- 15:06Speaker 1: satisfaction of knocking them off again after they added Miles
- 15:10Speaker 1: Garrett and Trent McDuffie and compromise their future. Do you
- 15:15Speaker 1: know how demoralizing that's going to be to the Los
- 15:18Speaker 1: Angeles Rams organization if they fall short again. I'm kind
- 15:22Speaker 1: of like Gray's Abel, right now.
- 15:24Speaker 2: Bring it on, let's do it, let's do it. Let's
- 15:28Speaker 2: do it. And look, I get why they're the favorite.
- 15:30Speaker 2: They should be the favorite. They they are the favorite
- 15:33Speaker 2: right now going into the season.
- 15:35Speaker 3: So do you want but I'm all right with you
- 15:37Speaker 3: want Aaron Donald come back to like how far are
- 15:41Speaker 3: we going on this?
- 15:42Speaker 2: Because because I.
- 15:44Speaker 3: Feel like this is like a scale, like like you're
- 15:48Speaker 3: you're focused on the gratification when you win. Yeah, yeah,
- 15:52Speaker 3: and then but all these changes are lowering the probability
- 15:55Speaker 3: that you do. That's true, you know, So, I mean
- 15:59Speaker 3: I get it, you're right that you would have more gratification,
- 16:04Speaker 3: but I don't know, so you're not me so well,
- 16:08Speaker 3: carry out that logics so that if if it was
- 16:11Speaker 3: reported that Matthew Stafford, you know that his back was
- 16:15Speaker 3: just too painful and he's decided to retire.
- 16:19Speaker 1: Whatever you disappointed, No, not disappointed, no, whatever whatever comes
- 16:25Speaker 1: come what may you know? Not disappointed, it's more of Okay,
- 16:31Speaker 1: you won the off season, now win the championship and
- 16:36Speaker 1: you still got to come through the champs.
- 16:39Speaker 3: Well, there's no question that it would be more gratifying
- 16:43Speaker 3: to beat the Rams and go to the Super Bowl again.
- 16:47Speaker 3: Knowing that they clearly they went pot committed to twenty
- 16:52Speaker 3: twenty six. They shubbed all their chips in I mean
- 16:57Speaker 3: most all their chips. As we said, they did draft
- 17:01Speaker 3: a quarterback for the future. So yeah, I mean they
- 17:03Speaker 3: couldn't take Kenyon Sadik or yeah with that that pick
- 17:07Speaker 3: with the third he was still available, all right. Uh,
- 17:12Speaker 3: you know there's a couple who's the defensive end for
- 17:14Speaker 3: for Miami the oh yeah short, yeah, Bin Bain was
- 17:19Speaker 3: at like there's some guys you'd say, whoa they did.
- 17:23Speaker 3: They got Miles Garrett, they got Trent McDuffie, and in
- 17:26Speaker 3: the first round, we're gonna have to do with you know,
- 17:28Speaker 3: they play all those tight ends. Uh. And and they
- 17:30Speaker 3: added Kenyon Sadik to that bevy or Reuben Bain is
- 17:36Speaker 3: coming off the edge on the opposite side of Miles Garrett,
- 17:40Speaker 3: like you know, whoa.
- 17:42Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not rooting for them to have a yellow
- 17:44Speaker 1: brick road experience this year.
- 17:46Speaker 2: I know.
- 17:46Speaker 1: I'm not rooting for Matts.
- 17:48Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I go ahead, throw forty.
- 17:51Speaker 1: Six touchdown passes again, we'll see who wins in the end. No,
- 17:55Speaker 1: I want Miles Garrett to have three and a half
- 17:56Speaker 1: sacks in seventeen games.
- 17:58Speaker 2: That's what that that Now I can root the other way. Yeah,
- 18:01Speaker 2: I want the house to drop on it.
- 18:02Speaker 1: Yeah, And I didn't root for them to get Miles Garrett,
- 18:05Speaker 1: but now that they've got it, and they're winning the
- 18:07Speaker 1: off season and everybody's picking them. I'm kind of excited
- 18:10Speaker 1: about it. I'm kind of excited to see how this
- 18:14Speaker 1: goes down. Yeah, I hope Aaron Donald decides, you know what,
- 18:18Speaker 1: I just.
- 18:19Speaker 2: Want it eat. I don't want to play anymore.
- 18:23Speaker 3: Well, I I if Aaron Donald were to come back,
- 18:31Speaker 3: you know, one would assume that that makes the job
- 18:34Speaker 3: even more difficult. Yeah, he's thirty five years old. You know,
- 18:38Speaker 3: I missed two season. But yeah, but uh, it's Aaron freakin' Donald.
- 18:43Speaker 3: I know I would say, there's an interesting I can't
- 18:48Speaker 3: I'm going to detach this emotionally and then kind of intellectually. Emotionally,
- 18:56Speaker 3: you know, I want the Seahawks to win. The intellectual
- 18:59Speaker 3: part of me. I can't wait to see what Mike
- 19:03Speaker 3: McDonald does. You know, in reaction, this is year three
- 19:10Speaker 3: for his defense, assuming Emon Worry is gonna be fine
- 19:13Speaker 3: health wise, you know, even Worries on the incline. Devin
- 19:18Speaker 3: Wortherspoon is on the incline. Sam Donald, I think, still
- 19:22Speaker 3: Sam Sam, But you know, and then you got Brian Florey.
- 19:25Speaker 3: You know, that's that's a big X factor.
- 19:27Speaker 2: I know we're gonna spend some time.
- 19:28Speaker 1: An all a few days together for the first time,
- 19:31Speaker 1: and how long from one year to the next.
- 19:34Speaker 3: Yeah, But I think Mike McDonald, you know, Mozart coaches
- 19:39Speaker 3: the defense, right, so I you know a theater sing right,
- 19:44Speaker 3: So I'm more interested in him. I want to hear
- 19:48Speaker 3: him at the harpsichord and what he can create on them.
- 19:51Speaker 3: You know, give give him a little time to to
- 19:54Speaker 3: compose another masterpiece because he's because he's a boy genius.
- 19:59Speaker 2: I'm just and my response to that is.
- 20:05Speaker 3: That's not the symphony I was looking for it.
- 20:11Speaker 2: Okay, that's my that's my response to that.
- 20:16Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what you would have never heard of him.
- 20:21Speaker 2: That's true. That's a really bad song.
- 20:28Speaker 3: Then it has terrible medley, no harmony, no rhythm, and
- 20:32Speaker 3: no tone color. It's beautiful.
- 20:34Speaker 1: Imagine like you're sitting there and you're in the eighties
- 20:36Speaker 1: and you're like, how do I pay tribute to the
- 20:38Speaker 1: greatest musician of all time? Oh?
- 20:40Speaker 2: I know, a really crappy song.
- 20:45Speaker 1: Annoying ABC's next Sports Radio ninety three point three kJ
- 20:52Speaker 1: A r f M to do the ABC's.
- 20:54Speaker 5: I figured he was like, can we start at the
- 20:56Speaker 5: beginning of the alphabet please.
- 20:57Speaker 2: Yeah, he wanted to do yeah a A tu zas. Yeah.
- 21:04Speaker 1: Well, I appreciate your enthusiasm for the bit, but we're
- 21:09Speaker 1: gonna probably get two or three in.
- 21:11Speaker 3: Oh yeah, sorry, So that's the standard operating season usually.
- 21:15Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll see. All right, let's get into it.
- 21:19Speaker 1: We'll start with the letter GG is for Gabe, And
- 21:22Speaker 1: my goodness, it was so good because we were all
- 21:25Speaker 1: so concerned that if Gabe threw to one batter and
- 21:28Speaker 1: then sat down for a half an inning, because no
- 21:32Speaker 1: pitcher ever does that, right, could he possibly would he
- 21:38Speaker 1: go back to the mound and I don't know, forget
- 21:40Speaker 1: that he was left handed, would he throw twenty two
- 21:43Speaker 1: miles per hour? Would he just disintegrate into ash and
- 21:48Speaker 1: float away on the mound? No. Turns out Dan Jerry
- 21:53Speaker 1: decided it's time that Gabe Spire can go out after
- 21:57Speaker 1: a third of an inning and pitch the next and
- 22:00Speaker 1: you know something, he was even better. To the surprise
- 22:03Speaker 1: of all, it turns out Gabespire will not die if
- 22:08Speaker 1: he and then goes back out for another inning. Not
- 22:14Speaker 1: only that, he will thrive. What would the what precipitated that?
- 22:20Speaker 1: Did he have a more lefties coming up, Well, like,
- 22:25Speaker 1: what why the change? I think they're a little concerned
- 22:28Speaker 1: about his longevity durability. Same with Brash. I there are
- 22:33Speaker 1: different rules with all of the relief pitchers, and I
- 22:37Speaker 1: think there was a strict Brash does not go down
- 22:41Speaker 1: and back up again.
- 22:43Speaker 2: A lot of.
- 22:43Speaker 1: Teams do this now, But it was getting to the
- 22:47Speaker 1: point where we were hearing how beat up the bullpen
- 22:50Speaker 1: is and how thin it is, and yet Dan still
- 22:55Speaker 1: will use Brash for a third of an inning or
- 22:57Speaker 1: Gabe Spire for a third of an inning. Well, what
- 23:00Speaker 1: the terrible use of your resources at that stage if
- 23:04Speaker 1: you're saying that your bullpen's thin and you can only
- 23:08Speaker 1: trust three or four guys.
- 23:10Speaker 2: And then you're only using him for a third of
- 23:12Speaker 2: an inning here and there. Yeah.
- 23:14Speaker 1: Well, we finally saw over the weekend for the first
- 23:16Speaker 1: time this year that they used Gabe Spier to close
- 23:19Speaker 1: an inning, sat him, let him pitch the next inning,
- 23:23Speaker 1: and he cried, No, I.
- 23:25Speaker 3: Got that, But why why this game? What was it
- 23:30Speaker 3: that they felt like, hey, we don't we don't like
- 23:34Speaker 3: the alternative or was it the lineup that was coming
- 23:37Speaker 3: in in the next inning.
- 23:39Speaker 1: I think that was favorable for the combination if that's anders.
- 23:43Speaker 1: I think he's a little bit removed from the injury list,
- 23:45Speaker 1: so they're feeling better about his health. Number two, we're
- 23:49Speaker 1: in the second half of the season, so I mean
- 23:52Speaker 1: we probably are going to see at some point of
- 23:54Speaker 1: Munyo six out saved, so they're you know, I think.
- 23:57Speaker 2: That's part of it as well.
- 23:59Speaker 1: And I think he didn't pitch for six days, so
- 24:02Speaker 1: that's part of it as well, because you know, you
- 24:05Speaker 1: can't just sit around and wait for the perfect situations
- 24:08Speaker 1: to throw your top two guys out of your bullpen.
- 24:10Speaker 1: So I think it was a combination of things. But
- 24:12Speaker 1: it was good to see, especially for somebody that has
- 24:15Speaker 1: been harping on this so much as of late, that
- 24:18Speaker 1: Gabe didn't die because he pitched an inning and a third.
- 24:23Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 24:23Speaker 5: It was touch and go there for a little bit.
- 24:25Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, I was really worried.
- 24:28Speaker 3: H is for he is with the Hail Marys at
- 24:30Speaker 3: the Rosary beats, be thankful on a morning like this,
- 24:36Speaker 3: H is for hitter.
- 24:38Speaker 2: And the Mariners are looking for a hitter.
- 24:41Speaker 1: At the trading deadline, we got a little bit of
- 24:44Speaker 1: information over the week and we had our first substantial
- 24:47Speaker 1: trade of the trading deadline, and it's taken a while.
- 24:50Speaker 1: The Boston Red Sox and the Washington Nationals pulled off
- 24:54Speaker 1: a trade. And if this is any indication of what
- 24:58Speaker 1: the market is saying, is the value value of a
- 25:00Speaker 1: right handed hitter who it might be very difficult for
- 25:05Speaker 1: Jerry to grab somebody. The Boston Red Sox gave up
- 25:08Speaker 1: a guy by the name of Conley Early, who is
- 25:11Speaker 1: got six years of control left and has been sensational
- 25:15Speaker 1: since he became a major leaguer and looks like he's
- 25:18Speaker 1: going to be like a legitimate number two, number three
- 25:21Speaker 1: starter in a rotation, and they just traded him. The
- 25:25Speaker 1: Red Sox are in contention, but they wanted a bat,
- 25:29Speaker 1: and they had to give up Conley Early apparently to
- 25:32Speaker 1: the Washington Nationals to get a guy in Curtis Mead,
- 25:36Speaker 1: who is finally having a good season this year, but
- 25:39Speaker 1: not a great season. This is not like a top player.
- 25:42Speaker 1: This is not like adding Byron Busteron or Vladimir Guerrero
- 25:45Speaker 1: Junior to your lineup. It's Curtis Mead for goodness sake,
- 25:48Speaker 1: and it cost them in essence like an Emerson Hancock
- 25:52Speaker 1: type just to get a decent veteran right handed hitter
- 25:57Speaker 1: to add to their lineup. So if I don't know
- 25:59Speaker 1: if this is an indication of what the market's going
- 26:02Speaker 1: to look like, but if it is, you can understand
- 26:06Speaker 1: why it's been so difficult for Jerry to pull off
- 26:10Speaker 1: a trade to bring up a hitter, because apparently whoever
- 26:13Speaker 1: is selling right handed hitting is asking for a fortune
- 26:17Speaker 1: in ready.
- 26:18Speaker 3: Yeah, well sounds like the Red Sox gave up early
- 26:20Speaker 3: on that prospers.
- 26:22Speaker 2: Look at that. I don't know, I don't want to
- 26:27Speaker 2: wasn't exactly an early bird special, was it.
- 26:29Speaker 3: Yeah, but well, uh, we'll see how it plays out.
- 26:33Speaker 2: But got to get up off the early in the
- 26:34Speaker 2: morning to pull one over on.
- 26:37Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, that just kind of empty net, you know,
- 26:41Speaker 3: sometimes you got to shoot. But uh, I don't know. Yeah, yeah,
- 26:47Speaker 3: it makes sense. I don't know who Seattle's in in
- 26:49Speaker 3: the market for. I thought Buxton has been he's he's
- 26:54Speaker 3: got a no trade clause, Yes he does, and has
- 26:57Speaker 3: he indicated he's not gonna wave it, been pretty firm
- 26:59Speaker 3: about it. Maybe he would for the right team, but
- 27:02Speaker 3: it's not looking like he's going to.
- 27:05Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw out a name though today something that
- 27:07Speaker 1: has not been tossed around here in this market. But
- 27:10Speaker 1: is somebody that I brought up in the offseason for
- 27:12Speaker 1: the Mariners, Washington shortstop CJ. Abrams, who apparently they don't
- 27:18Speaker 1: really like. But he's having like an MVP type season,
- 27:22Speaker 1: and apparently the Nationals don't believe that they're in the
- 27:26Speaker 1: race and are shopping him around. He's got two years
- 27:30Speaker 1: of control. He's a switch hitter. He's better from the
- 27:32Speaker 1: left side than he is from the right side. He
- 27:35Speaker 1: plays shortstop not well. He is about the only shortstop
- 27:40Speaker 1: in the game that has worse metrics than what JP
- 27:42Speaker 1: had at shortstop. But he's crushing the baseball this year.
- 27:49Speaker 1: If he's available, I got to believe that the Mariners
- 27:52Speaker 1: should be interested if nothing else. Hugh put him as
- 27:55Speaker 1: a DH this year if you don't trust his defense,
- 27:58Speaker 1: and then next year. He's such a good young athlete
- 28:01Speaker 1: at age twenty five, turn him into an outfielder by
- 28:04Speaker 1: by next season he replaces Randi or Rose Arena and
- 28:08Speaker 1: left field, and.
- 28:09Speaker 3: You know it's a Colt stan that sort stop. No
- 28:12Speaker 3: matter what, maybe not, I don't say no matter what.
- 28:16Speaker 3: I don't say no matter what, but I think so
- 28:18Speaker 3: he's he's below the Medoza line two now, isn't he
- 28:21Speaker 3: I think he got well, he might have dipped back
- 28:24Speaker 3: below Sunday.
- 28:25Speaker 2: He got over it at some point this weekend. I
- 28:27Speaker 2: haven't checked this morning.
- 28:30Speaker 3: Yeah, but so would this this this guy be a
- 28:34Speaker 3: third baseman.
- 28:36Speaker 2: I suppose you could try it.
- 28:39Speaker 1: I mean, what do you got to lose. I mean,
- 28:41Speaker 1: Donovan's not exactly been great guns over there, and I
- 28:45Speaker 1: don't think JP's you know, Greg Nettles, So yeah, maybe
- 28:51Speaker 1: maybe you could do that. He's played some second base
- 28:53Speaker 1: in the past. We don't need one of those. But
- 28:55Speaker 1: the point is, if this team needs a hitter, this
- 28:58Speaker 1: guy can hit, and he's young, and he's controllable, and
- 29:02Speaker 1: if you're gonna have to give up a fortune, I
- 29:04Speaker 1: know there are a lot of people that don't want
- 29:06Speaker 1: the Spencer Steers and Elliott ramos Is. They don't even
- 29:09Speaker 1: want to see that trade for the Mariners. Between now
- 29:11Speaker 1: and the deadline. This would excite the fan base because
- 29:15Speaker 1: he is having like an m v P type season
- 29:17Speaker 1: this show.
- 29:17Speaker 3: What did you think of the m Dan Wilson pulling
- 29:20Speaker 3: in the infield in the second inning on Saturday?
- 29:24Speaker 2: Did you have a reaction to that?
- 29:26Speaker 3: And then and then as a double gets slapped down
- 29:28Speaker 3: the line that that JP can't get to it.
- 29:31Speaker 1: There, don't trust the offense to score any runs. You're
- 29:34Speaker 1: already down, Yeah.
- 29:38Speaker 2: They were down to run.
- 29:40Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, they don't trust the offense. Yeah, a lot
- 29:46Speaker 1: more teams have been doing that lately.
- 29:48Speaker 2: But uh yeah, I don't know.
- 29:51Speaker 1: Uh. Finally changing, Finally I is for Italya because dom
- 29:57Speaker 1: Can Zone has done it, big hit yesterday for dom
- 30:03Speaker 1: Can Zone. A little funny thing about dom Canzone. He's
- 30:06Speaker 1: really embraced this Italy thing. He actually is feels more
- 30:10Speaker 1: Spanish than he does. His mom's Spanish. Oh yeah, and
- 30:15Speaker 1: mom his dad's Italian. But there's like more Spanish blood
- 30:20Speaker 1: in in thean Italian blood in it.
- 30:22Speaker 3: Okay, yeah yeah, but he's really embraced. But we had
- 30:25Speaker 3: an eye, so we couldn't wait for us.
- 30:27Speaker 2: Yeah it was an eye.
- 30:30Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, we couldn't wait for Spanish or an e Espania. Right,
- 30:35Speaker 3: like we've already passed the ease, right, that's right, we
- 30:37Speaker 3: had an eye.
- 30:38Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't choose this, the alphabet chooses it. You
- 30:41Speaker 2: didn't even want.
- 30:42Speaker 1: To talk about this stuff, right, Yeah, I don't bring
- 30:45Speaker 1: up the topics the alphabet does it for us.
- 30:50Speaker 3: Uh, well, that was that was a hell of a
- 30:53Speaker 3: bomb that he hit. That You didn't comment much about
- 30:57Speaker 3: my thought about how he threw the parrel out and
- 31:01Speaker 3: like that. That was not you would not want to
- 31:05Speaker 3: teach a hitting class on that swing. That he right
- 31:09Speaker 3: because he threw the barrel out of the ball. You know,
- 31:11Speaker 3: he had to go down and get it as the
- 31:12Speaker 3: bottom strike sound, but it wasn't.
- 31:15Speaker 2: He didn't. He didn't. You know, most great hits, you know.
- 31:17Speaker 3: The you're pulling the butt of the bat through and
- 31:21Speaker 3: then the bat waits on the back foot the barrel
- 31:25Speaker 3: trails man. He he stopped his hands and and and
- 31:29Speaker 3: and threw the barrel at the ball. And unbelievable forum
- 31:33Speaker 3: strength to be able to jacket that far. I mean
- 31:35Speaker 3: there's a home runs and then there's home runs Like
- 31:37Speaker 3: there's no doubters. Oh, he's got power with the slot
- 31:41Speaker 3: with with uh less than ideal mechanics, he was able
- 31:45Speaker 3: to just kind of flip that thing.
- 31:47Speaker 1: Well, and I'll give a mess because he battled for
- 31:49Speaker 1: a double earlier in the weekend and then he had
- 31:52Speaker 1: the double down the Rifield line. I mean, I'd like
- 31:54Speaker 1: to kind of see more of that even I mean,
- 31:57Speaker 1: that's just battling, that's just trying to put the ball
- 31:59Speaker 1: in play. But when you have that kind of power
- 32:02Speaker 1: and you're just trying to not strike out, and let
- 32:05Speaker 1: I got fooled, I'm out in front and now I
- 32:07Speaker 1: gotta do something.
- 32:09Speaker 2: At least he put barrel on ball. And look how
- 32:11Speaker 2: far dom can Zone can.
- 32:13Speaker 3: While we're on the topic, I could look it up,
- 32:15Speaker 3: but tell me he was initially a hey, you're just
- 32:18Speaker 3: a platoon guy. Then he earned the right to uh
- 32:23Speaker 3: to see both sides or just to see both pictures.
- 32:27Speaker 3: What's the update in that regard? Is he he's every day?
- 32:30Speaker 3: I know he's I know he is, But what are
- 32:32Speaker 3: the numbers? Saying as the numbers is just like cement,
- 32:35Speaker 3: this guy is like like it's a done and faded,
- 32:39Speaker 3: like he's the guy or or is there still some numbers.
- 32:42Speaker 2: I'm sure they.
- 32:43Speaker 1: Would still like Juliocal and Josh to be the guy
- 32:46Speaker 1: and then cam Zone hits sixth for you and provides power.
- 32:51Speaker 1: But right now he is the most reliable guy in
- 32:54Speaker 1: the middle of your order and should be hitting third.
- 32:57Speaker 1: You know, we were talking about the h we gotta,
- 33:00Speaker 1: we gotta bounce.
- 33:01Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, yeah.
- 33:02Speaker 1: All right, one last thing next Sports Radio ninety three
- 33:05Speaker 1: point three kJ.
- 33:06Speaker 4: R F M.
- 33:17Speaker 1: All right, here we go, final segment of the first
- 33:21Speaker 1: show from the Virginia Mason Athletics.
- 33:24Speaker 2: Got Wendy, Got Wendy out here on the old Prairie.
- 33:30Speaker 2: Players love this, Yeah, I bet you the aggregate.
- 33:34Speaker 3: Yeah, you know it's cool enough for the lineman, warm
- 33:37Speaker 3: enough for the skill guys to keep their hamstrings loose. Yeah,
- 33:43Speaker 3: beautiful sun not far from ideal.
- 33:45Speaker 2: Picturesque too as well.
- 33:48Speaker 1: So anyway, we always close out the show with the
- 33:51Speaker 1: one last thing. As we go around the room, you
- 33:54Speaker 1: get one last thing that's on your mind here today, Ashley,
- 33:57Speaker 1: do you want to show you how it's done?
- 33:59Speaker 5: Sure, I have a big day today. After I leave here,
- 34:03Speaker 5: I have to go have my go get in the
- 34:05Speaker 5: batting cage so that I can go try to figure
- 34:07Speaker 5: out how to hit a softball before I play in
- 34:09Speaker 5: a game on Saturday.
- 34:11Speaker 3: And actually never.
- 34:12Speaker 2: Played softball, Hugh, did you know that.
- 34:16Speaker 3: Never played softball?
- 34:17Speaker 2: Yeah, so she's going to be in a celebrity softball thing. Yeah,
- 34:22Speaker 2: on Saturday. I wanted the cage to learn how to
- 34:25Speaker 2: hit a softball.
- 34:26Speaker 3: You must have disappointed your high school softball coach. We
- 34:29Speaker 3: didn't have softball, Huh.
- 34:32Speaker 5: I don't think we did, right, I don't know. Well,
- 34:36Speaker 5: we had a really good swimming program. But here's the
- 34:39Speaker 5: thing is, I was sitting there talking to five Iron
- 34:41Speaker 5: last night about this. I was like, all right, I'm
- 34:43Speaker 5: gonna go. I mean, I feel like I've absorbed quite
- 34:45Speaker 5: a bit being a softball mom and helping Palmer.
- 34:47Speaker 3: The great practice.
- 34:48Speaker 5: But as I was sitting there getting ready to go
- 34:50Speaker 5: to bed last night, all of a sudden, my eyes
- 34:52Speaker 5: shot open and I said to five Iron, oh crap,
- 34:55Speaker 5: He said what And I said, I just realized I
- 34:57Speaker 5: also have to field. I can't just go hit the ball.
- 35:04Speaker 3: Well, you could be like Luke Rayley in center field,
- 35:09Speaker 3: you know, on Saturday night frying Wu. You know, in
- 35:13Speaker 3: the first inning, you know, a routine ball, he covered
- 35:17Speaker 3: about a few more feet than a traffic cone would
- 35:21Speaker 3: have to not get the ball right Like, WU was like,
- 35:25Speaker 3: are you effing kidding me?
- 35:27Speaker 2: Right now?
- 35:28Speaker 1: How bad was that? And who knows how different that
- 35:30Speaker 1: game is. I mean, that's what That's the problem with
- 35:32Speaker 1: Wu on the road is like something always seems to
- 35:37Speaker 1: go wonky, and then it blows up on him like
- 35:42Speaker 1: Rayley makes that play and who knows what it's Like
- 35:44Speaker 1: I used to say about Mark Trumbo and he played
- 35:46Speaker 1: left field. You're better off with a lawn chair out
- 35:49Speaker 1: in the left field because if the ball is hit
- 35:52Speaker 1: to the lawn chair, it might fold up and catch it.
- 35:55Speaker 2: Perfect. Yeah.
- 35:59Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a distinction, right, I mean if it was
- 36:02Speaker 3: a normal just a regular, regular chair, right yeah, then
- 36:09Speaker 3: uh yeah, wing back chair from your office wouldn't be far.
- 36:13Speaker 2: He was a lot better than a wing back chair
- 36:15Speaker 2: from the office. Yeah, not as good as a law chair. Here.
- 36:20Speaker 2: Do you have one last thing?
- 36:23Speaker 3: Not really prepared for this the because usually you guys
- 36:26Speaker 3: asked me a question.
- 36:27Speaker 2: You know, we do one last thing. Well you talk
- 36:30Speaker 2: to King.
- 36:32Speaker 3: Yeah, well yeah, you know there's some old pals of
- 36:35Speaker 3: the market, those guys Chris Sigan, Paul Silvie really hard
- 36:39Speaker 3: I know, yeah, they suck really difficult human beings to
- 36:43Speaker 3: get along with.
- 36:43Speaker 2: First class turns.
- 36:45Speaker 3: Yeah, the uh you know what, how about Jacoby Brissette.
- 36:51Speaker 3: We didn't talk about him today. I looked and he
- 36:57Speaker 3: is he just signed a new content Remember the thing
- 37:00Speaker 3: like it's not the the best, it's the next you know,
- 37:05Speaker 3: you know, at every position, right and so so this
- 37:08Speaker 3: is a fresh new contract and it's sport from the
- 37:11Speaker 3: bottom of all quarterbacks in the NFL.
- 37:15Speaker 2: So that concludes guys on rookie deals.
- 37:18Speaker 3: I don't know what it includes, yeah, but I think
- 37:24Speaker 3: for a team in your division, it couldn't be more ideal.
- 37:27Speaker 2: You know.
- 37:28Speaker 3: It's like he I looked up his career log. Every
- 37:32Speaker 3: time he's had the opportunity to to be a starter,
- 37:36Speaker 3: he's just kind of been solidly just below the average,
- 37:42Speaker 3: if you know, if at all.
- 37:44Speaker 2: I think they're not concerned about it there.
- 37:47Speaker 1: I think they know it's a rebuilding year and why
- 37:49Speaker 1: do we even want to be good this year? Yeah,
- 37:52Speaker 1: he keeps them competitive just in case, you know, you
- 37:55Speaker 1: catch lightning in a bottle. He's not terrible at the position,
- 37:58Speaker 1: but you know, they didn't want to bring anybody in
- 38:01Speaker 1: too good.
- 38:02Speaker 3: No, they're probably trying, you know, if arch manningess is
- 38:08Speaker 3: the thing everybody.
- 38:09Speaker 2: Yeah, is hoping for.
- 38:11Speaker 3: But I think it's a as tough as this division is.
- 38:15Speaker 3: With the rams of the forty nine ers having a
- 38:20Speaker 3: what should be a couple of relatively easy wins in
- 38:24Speaker 3: the division. Pretty good, he's making fifteen million. He's got
- 38:27Speaker 3: an incentives, he could make it up to twenty one million,
- 38:30Speaker 3: but again that only puts him fourth from the bottom,
- 38:35Speaker 3: so that he is the definition of a fringe starter.
- 38:38Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, for sure, for sure. Yeah, poor guy fifteen
- 38:41Speaker 2: million a year.
- 38:42Speaker 1: Yeah all right, I'm going to close with us just
- 38:45Speaker 1: quickly so we can get out of here. For Greg
- 38:47Speaker 1: Bell thinking about sabotaging the equipment, just to see the
- 38:51Speaker 1: look on Greg's face.
- 38:53Speaker 2: Smart idea. Yeah, what do you think he's coming out?
- 38:57Speaker 2: I gotta do it right now, I'm gonna do it.
- 38:58Speaker 3: Yeah, Jelly, all the over the dials, Like what are
- 39:02Speaker 3: we talking about?
- 39:03Speaker 1: Showing that parking space in our face?
- 39:06Speaker 3: Sir? Terry the engineer is like, what precisely do you
- 39:10Speaker 3: mean by sabagee my equipment?
- 39:12Speaker 1: I told him I was gonna do it when Terry left,
- 39:14Speaker 1: but uh yeah, he didn't seem to be too concerned.
- 39:17Speaker 3: Stop picking your nose and putting it all over the dials.
- 39:20Speaker 3: Now I understand what you're doing.
- 39:21Speaker 2: Greg Bell is next. Thank you, Hugh, We'll talk to
- 39:23Speaker 2: you about rock and roll all right.
- 39:25Speaker 1: Training camp coverage continues with our Seahawks inside or next
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