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- 0:00Speaker 1: Good morning, good afternoon, good evening everybody, and welcome to
- 0:03Speaker 1: Honey Badger Radio. My name is Brian. I'm here with
- 0:05Speaker 1: Allison and this is maintaining frame how feminism con Gen
- 0:09Speaker 1: Z men into college debt and what to do instead.
- 0:12Speaker 1: Where we're going to be looking at an article that's
- 0:13Speaker 1: been making the rounds on compactmag dot com and I think, well,
- 0:19Speaker 1: I think it'll let Alison sort of you go from there.
- 0:22Speaker 1: So go ahead, Alison.
- 0:23Speaker 2: So for a very long time, I've gotten crap for
- 0:27Speaker 2: saying the following two young men do not go into
- 0:31Speaker 2: higher education unless someone is paying you to take that education.
- 0:35Speaker 2: And it's interesting to be vindicated at the end at
- 0:40Speaker 2: the end of this because now we're seeing the actual numbers.
- 0:44Speaker 2: So what's happening is that if you go into higher
- 0:47Speaker 2: education and you incur twenty five thirty thousand dollars a debt,
- 0:52Speaker 2: or even the couple hundred thousand that would require you
- 0:55Speaker 2: that you recry or to get like a PhD or
- 0:57Speaker 2: a master's, you aren't seeing the employment opportunities that used
- 1:04Speaker 2: to come from putting that amount of work into your education.
- 1:08Speaker 2: And this is unique to Generation Millennial and Generation Z men.
- 1:13Speaker 2: They are seeing unemployment rates equal to those men who
- 1:17Speaker 2: haven't gone into higher education, and yet those men who
- 1:21Speaker 2: haven't gone into higher education are getting jobs without the
- 1:24Speaker 2: huge debt load. So it's starting to shape up that
- 1:28Speaker 2: this is a con that this is that Generation Z
- 1:32Speaker 2: and millennial men have been conned by higher education. They've
- 1:36Speaker 2: been pushed into it by you know, the K through twelve.
- 1:39Speaker 2: Everybody's like, what are you going to do when you graduate?
- 1:41Speaker 2: What are you going to take a major in? When
- 1:43Speaker 2: you go to higher education? But nobody told you that
- 1:46Speaker 2: you're going to incur all of this debt. You're going
- 1:48Speaker 2: to go, You're going to put your life on hold
- 1:51Speaker 2: to go into these institutions, and at the end of
- 1:54Speaker 2: the day, you are going to be discriminated against. As
- 1:58Speaker 2: a degree holding men, you are going to be discriminated against.
- 2:02Speaker 2: The unemployment of women who hold degrees is still higher
- 2:06Speaker 2: than women who don't. It is men who hold degrees
- 2:11Speaker 2: who are actively being discriminated against. So they basically took
- 2:15Speaker 2: your money, left you with a bunch of debt, and
- 2:18Speaker 2: at the end of the day, you have no job
- 2:20Speaker 2: to show for it. So that's where we're sitting at,
- 2:24Speaker 2: and it's because of all of the DEI initiatives, all
- 2:28Speaker 2: of the me too pressures, all of the stuff that
- 2:31Speaker 2: feminists brought pushed into academia, media, Hollywood, all of the
- 2:39Speaker 2: varioust artistic industries like animation. Yeah, it's if you've been
- 2:44Speaker 2: feeling like there's you're going up against a brick wall
- 2:48Speaker 2: while dragging a chain of debt like a ball and
- 2:52Speaker 2: chain of debt, you're not wrong. You were set up
- 2:57Speaker 2: for failure. And as always, please my prognostication is it prognostication.
- 3:03Speaker 2: My prescription is get angry and then get practical, because
- 3:08Speaker 2: we're going to talk about how you deal with the
- 3:10Speaker 2: reality as it is, not the reality they're trying to
- 3:14Speaker 2: sell you, but reality as it is. As we have
- 3:17Speaker 2: spoken on this channel lots of times, there is a
- 3:20Speaker 2: huge chasm between what teachers will say, what academics will say,
- 3:25Speaker 2: what the media will say, and what reality actually is
- 3:29Speaker 2: for millennial men, gen z men, and you know, to
- 3:33Speaker 2: a lesser extent, older men, because we're you know, we're
- 3:35Speaker 2: still dealing with discrimination in family courts and in law
- 3:40Speaker 2: and all of that other stuff. So today we're going
- 3:43Speaker 2: into the con that feminism has perpetrated against younger men
- 3:49Speaker 2: in higher education all right, if you will, Yeah, if
- 3:53Speaker 2: you want to send us a message at any time
- 3:56Speaker 2: throughout the show, you can do so at feedbadger dot
- 3:59Speaker 2: com slash justice tip send some questions because I think
- 4:02Speaker 2: this one will invite a lot of questions. And if you,
- 4:05Speaker 2: I know, our viewership tends to skew more like millennial
- 4:10Speaker 2: and Generation X. If you have younger you young men
- 4:14Speaker 2: that you know and are in position to give any advice,
- 4:17Speaker 2: to listen and absorb what we say because they need
- 4:23Speaker 2: to know this. They need to know they pitfalls and
- 4:27Speaker 2: the problems in navigating getting a job in this day
- 4:30Speaker 2: and age. And at the end or no, I shouldn't
- 4:34Speaker 2: have used the end word. Towards the day you, maul
- 4:37Speaker 2: I will be presenting a flow chart for young men
- 4:40Speaker 2: who are getting into higher education and whether or not
- 4:43Speaker 2: you should you shouldn't, but you know, if you insist
- 4:46Speaker 2: upon it, there are some options that you can take
- 4:49Speaker 2: to minimize the risk to yourself. All right, do you
- 4:52Speaker 2: want to just get started? Then?
- 4:53Speaker 1: Yes? And before I do, though, there does seem to
- 4:57Speaker 1: be an issue that I want to raise. The vertical
- 4:59Speaker 1: stream is not starting. I've tried the whole time. It's okay, though,
- 5:04Speaker 1: I'm recording it, so I can just send you the
- 5:06Speaker 1: file and you can turn into shorts after. In the meantime,
- 5:09Speaker 1: I may try to start another vertical stream while we're talking,
- 5:14Speaker 1: just like if I can get it to start up.
- 5:16Speaker 1: But yeah, I'm aware that it's not running. I think
- 5:19Speaker 1: that there was an update in OBS and the software
- 5:23Speaker 1: the specific plug in that allows me to stream vertically,
- 5:27Speaker 1: and I think that happened earlier today and that might
- 5:30Speaker 1: have been the that might be an issue. So we'll
- 5:32Speaker 1: see if I can figure it out, though, yep. In
- 5:35Speaker 1: the meantime, so no, I did not. I did notice
- 5:37Speaker 1: that I am. I am on top of it. But okay,
- 5:40Speaker 1: so we're not going to read through the article because
- 5:42Speaker 1: it's really long, but we do have some of the
- 5:46Speaker 1: like like the general thesis of the article, and I
- 5:50Speaker 1: guess some specific points that are made. So do you
- 5:55Speaker 1: do you have any or should I? Oh?
- 5:58Speaker 2: Well, honestly, the overall thesis of the article is it's
- 6:03Speaker 2: just an elaboration of everything that we've talked about and
- 6:07Speaker 2: noticed in one place. It covers all the personal experience
- 6:12Speaker 2: of a lot of men in the variety of industries,
- 6:16Speaker 2: from Hollywood to media to academia, and to a lesser extent,
- 6:21Speaker 2: in more high the higher end of research and development
- 6:25Speaker 2: in the business world. So it's the gamut of potential
- 6:30Speaker 2: career opportunities, the kind of career opportunities that used to
- 6:33Speaker 2: be you would want to aim for because they were fulfilling,
- 6:37Speaker 2: and a lot of personal anecdotes about having been frozen
- 6:43Speaker 2: out of getting jobs in these variety of career settings.
- 6:48Speaker 2: So it's creativity, media, and research and development, and it's
- 6:53Speaker 2: a lot. It's substantial, and it's backed up with a
- 6:57Speaker 2: lot of statistics on how much the rate of employment
- 7:04Speaker 2: for men, and in particular white men in these fields,
- 7:08Speaker 2: how much it has gone down over the years. And
- 7:12Speaker 2: I think that's particularly unlightening. It's pretty much embedded very deeply.
- 7:16Speaker 2: You know. I would just start because I think that
- 7:18Speaker 2: at least the first few paragraphs are a good way
- 7:21Speaker 2: to set what's going on. So just just a minute, yeah,
- 7:25Speaker 2: just start, all right?
- 7:27Speaker 1: So this is the Lost Generation by Jacob Savage on
- 7:31Speaker 1: Compact dot Com. For fifteen years, I've scalped tickets to
- 7:35Speaker 1: pay the bills. But in January twenty sixteen, I almost
- 7:38Speaker 1: managed a real career. I was thirty one. I've been
- 7:40Speaker 1: in Los Angeles for five years writing scripts. There had
- 7:43Speaker 1: been minor successes, a couple of small projects optioned, and
- 7:47Speaker 1: had recently started writing with my best friend. We were
- 7:50Speaker 1: writing constantly, making each other better, building momentum. Success fell
- 7:54Speaker 1: close back then it always did. It looks like they're
- 7:58Speaker 1: just like telling.
- 7:59Speaker 2: Us, you're just grounding it in an actual anecdote, which
- 8:04Speaker 2: which is useful.
- 8:05Speaker 1: I think, yeah, yeah. So we'd written a pilot script
- 8:09Speaker 1: that a veteran showrunner had agreed in a very theoretical,
- 8:12Speaker 1: very Hollywood sort of way to come on to. That
- 8:15Speaker 1: project had fizzled, so we were surprised when an executive
- 8:19Speaker 1: emailed us out of the blue to meet. The showrunner
- 8:22Speaker 1: explained he'd submitted us for an upcoming writers room he
- 8:25Speaker 1: was going to run. The exec had loved our pilot
- 8:28Speaker 1: and wanted to hire us. This was it our moment,
- 8:31Speaker 1: the moment our careers were supposed to take off. We'd
- 8:34Speaker 1: put in our time. I'd been tutoring SATs and reselling
- 8:37Speaker 1: tickets to make ends meet while I wrote, and five
- 8:40Speaker 1: years seemed part for the course based on the slightly
- 8:43Speaker 1: older guys we knew who had made it. But of
- 8:45Speaker 1: course by twenty sixteen, we were already too late.
- 8:49Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
- 8:49Speaker 1: The show runner emailed us back apologetically. I had initially
- 8:53Speaker 1: thought I might be able to bring you guys on,
- 8:55Speaker 1: he wrote, but in the end it wasn't possible.
- 8:59Speaker 2: It's interesting how all of these like the time really
- 9:03Speaker 2: starts coinciding. You notice that, like it it's.
- 9:08Speaker 1: Twenty seventy sixteen, right, yeah.
- 9:10Speaker 2: But it was twenty fourteen where this stuff. You get
- 9:13Speaker 2: further into the article where they describe how this stuff's
- 9:16Speaker 2: really started to ramp up, and I just find it
- 9:19Speaker 2: fascinating how that coincides with Gamergate guys were true Gamergate
- 9:26Speaker 2: guys were tracking some real seismic shifts in the culture. Unfortunately,
- 9:33Speaker 2: they just went ahead and did whatever the hell they
- 9:36Speaker 2: were gonna do. So continue, all right.
- 9:42Speaker 1: The show outer emailed us that art of that. I'm sorry.
- 9:45Speaker 1: We met you with the executive anyway, a gen x
- 9:48Speaker 1: white guy who told us how much he loved our pilot.
- 9:51Speaker 1: But the writer's room was small, he explained, apologetically, and
- 9:54Speaker 1: the higher level writers were all white men. They couldn't
- 9:57Speaker 1: have an all white male room. Maybe if the show
- 9:59Speaker 1: got another season, they'd be able to bring us on.
- 10:02Speaker 1: They never did. The doors seemed to close everywhere and
- 10:05Speaker 1: all at once. In twenty eleven, the year I moved
- 10:08Speaker 1: to Los Angeles, white men were forty eight percent of
- 10:10Speaker 1: lower level TV writers. By twenty twenty four, they only
- 10:13Speaker 1: accounted for about eleven point nine percent. The Atlantic's editorial
- 10:18Speaker 1: staff went from fifty three percent mail and eighty nine
- 10:21Speaker 1: percent white in twenty thirteen to thirty six percent male
- 10:24Speaker 1: and sixty six percent white in twenty twenty four. The
- 10:28Speaker 1: white men fell from thirty nine percent of ten year
- 10:30Speaker 1: track positions in the humanities at Harvard in twenty fourteen
- 10:34Speaker 1: to eighteen percent in twenty twenty three. In retrospect, twenty
- 10:38Speaker 1: fourteen was the hinge, the year DEI became institutionalized across
- 10:43Speaker 1: American life.
- 10:45Speaker 2: It's almost like it was. And again the gamer Gate people,
- 10:49Speaker 2: they picked up on it. They saw they I don't
- 10:54Speaker 2: know that was when the waters were receding, and they
- 10:57Speaker 2: picked up on that as the tsunami came in, you know,
- 11:01Speaker 2: and it's it's just it's just really interesting to me
- 11:04Speaker 2: how all of these times are lining up, and I'm
- 11:07Speaker 2: wondering if there's something going on in the background that's
- 11:10Speaker 2: pushing this, something that that coincided on twenty fourteen. Maybe
- 11:16Speaker 2: it was like maybe that was the apocalypse that was
- 11:20Speaker 2: promised in twenty twelve, you know.
- 11:23Speaker 1: A little bit. It was just a late apocalypse.
- 11:26Speaker 2: It was a late apocalypse. Yeah, I was just building
- 11:29Speaker 2: up steam and we.
- 11:30Speaker 1: Didn't even think. I think this is actually no, I
- 11:33Speaker 1: think this is actually older than twenty fourteen. I just
- 11:36Speaker 1: think that the Internet allowed it to accelerate. That's what
- 11:43Speaker 1: I think that this because this is I don't know
- 11:45Speaker 1: if they're going to say it in this article. I
- 11:48Speaker 1: have some of the some of the central arguments, but
- 11:56Speaker 1: I feel like that this is obviously a product of feminism,
- 11:59Speaker 1: Like that's that's what this is a product of. Yes,
- 12:02Speaker 1: And I think that in twenty sixteen we got the
- 12:09Speaker 1: first hints of the me too movement. It was it
- 12:12Speaker 1: wasn't called that yet, but this was like building you know.
- 12:15Speaker 1: So it was the gamer Gate, but it was also
- 12:18Speaker 1: me too and like a lot of the on let's say,
- 12:21Speaker 1: the online social media feminist activism. That's that's what I'm
- 12:24Speaker 1: I'm trying to get at. That's what made that's what blew.
- 12:27Speaker 2: Up, you know, yeah, yeah, yeah, do the next paragraph?
- 12:32Speaker 1: All right? In industry after industry gatekeepers promised extra consideration
- 12:39Speaker 1: to anyone who wasn't a white man, and then provided
- 12:42Speaker 1: just that with every announcement of promotions. There was a
- 12:45Speaker 1: desire to put extra emphasis on gender or race, a
- 12:49Speaker 1: former management consultant recalled, and when you don't fall into
- 12:52Speaker 1: these groups, that message gets louder and louder and gains
- 12:55Speaker 1: more and more emphasis. On the one hand, you want
- 12:58Speaker 1: to celebrate people who have in at a disadvantage. On
- 13:01Speaker 1: the other hand, you look and you say, wow, the
- 13:03Speaker 1: world is not rooting for you. In fact, it's deliberately
- 13:06Speaker 1: rooting against you. Yes, and it is like legitimately institutional
- 13:13Speaker 1: systemic discrimination against men in particular, but also white men.
- 13:20Speaker 1: But not just white men. I mean, like they say
- 13:23Speaker 1: it as white men, but at the end of the day,
- 13:25Speaker 1: it's gonna be just men. And a lot of the
- 13:27Speaker 1: people who push this stuff were actually women of color anyway.
- 13:34Speaker 2: Well, but the thing is, what's interesting about DEI is
- 13:38Speaker 2: it's disproportionately benefiting white women more than anyone interestingly enough,
- 13:45Speaker 2: do you know that as if based on the statistics.
- 13:48Speaker 1: I mean maybe, but it doesn't matter. Like women in
- 13:51Speaker 1: color started it, they push it, they still stand by
- 13:54Speaker 1: it or brown women and black women, even if it
- 13:58Speaker 1: just so happens that white women better. I don't think
- 14:00Speaker 1: that it's like their intention and they don't care because
- 14:03Speaker 1: as long as men are getting screwed, it doesn't matter.
- 14:06Speaker 1: Like the sisterhood trumps all at the end of the day.
- 14:09Speaker 1: So like I wouldn't I wouldn't be taking any joy
- 14:16Speaker 1: in learning that white women secretly got black women to
- 14:19Speaker 1: turn on their own men. I don't think that's what happened,
- 14:23Speaker 1: but it wouldn't bring me any more joy to learn that.
- 14:25Speaker 1: I think that it's, at the end of the day,
- 14:29Speaker 1: the women and not just because the thing is for me. Anyway,
- 14:35Speaker 1: I get a little annoyed when you see like, let's say,
- 14:40Speaker 1: or argue with saws. I see this all the time,
- 14:43Speaker 1: and like or Antifa, what Antifa was like, you know,
- 14:46Speaker 1: doing all kinds of property damage and rioting and everything.
- 14:49Speaker 1: And then what a lot of the so called anti
- 14:53Speaker 1: woke people would say is they would essentially point to
- 14:56Speaker 1: Antifa and say, look at how white and male they are,
- 15:00Speaker 1: as though the fact that they that they see some
- 15:03Speaker 1: photos of Antifa members and they happen to be white
- 15:06Speaker 1: and male somehow strengthens the argument against Antifa for being
- 15:11Speaker 1: like violent anarchists or whatever that are just trying to
- 15:14Speaker 1: burn everything down, and they think it's funnier because of
- 15:18Speaker 1: because they're fitting into this identity mold that we're supposed
- 15:21Speaker 1: to see, as you know, the like far right oppressive mold.
- 15:25Speaker 1: And I get I get the irony a little bit,
- 15:28Speaker 1: but it annoys me because I know there's a lot
- 15:30Speaker 1: of people in minority groups that are also a part
- 15:33Speaker 1: of this, and for some reason they get a pass.
- 15:35Speaker 1: And I think it's because while you know, there are
- 15:38Speaker 1: people who are fine with being called sexist and yet
- 15:41Speaker 1: not fine with potentially being called racist, even though the
- 15:45Speaker 1: same mentality is coming from this. And the only way
- 15:49Speaker 1: we're gonna beat it, and I mean the only way
- 15:52Speaker 1: we're gonna beat that, is to ignore all of those
- 15:55Speaker 1: narratives of essentially your anistophobe, like the istaphobia thing has
- 15:59Speaker 1: to die, like it has to die forever, and the
- 16:02Speaker 1: only way is for us to look at and say, look,
- 16:06Speaker 1: this is being caused by this group of people, and
- 16:09Speaker 1: I don't care like what their skin color is or whatever.
- 16:12Speaker 1: I'm looking at it as objective as possible. So in
- 16:16Speaker 1: the nineteen seventies, you had like the feminist movement, but
- 16:21Speaker 1: there was also the womanist movement, which was like the
- 16:23Speaker 1: black feminist movement, and it was doing its own damage.
- 16:27Speaker 1: And you know, if somebody were to say, well, you
- 16:29Speaker 1: know the I don't know, like there's a way of
- 16:32Speaker 1: like passing the buck to like white women or white people,
- 16:36Speaker 1: that I take some issue with it because I think
- 16:41Speaker 1: that they should be like black and brown women are
- 16:43Speaker 1: also adults, and they also do dumb shit, and they
- 16:46Speaker 1: also online. So I've been going on X and I've
- 16:52Speaker 1: made this thing that I do now where I just
- 16:55Speaker 1: scroll on X and if I see an anti male post,
- 16:59Speaker 1: and there's a lot of them, there's a lot of
- 17:00Speaker 1: angry feminist women on X. They'll just say some demeaning
- 17:04Speaker 1: shit about men, and I'll go on their profile and
- 17:06Speaker 1: check their location and they're all in India, Africa, East
- 17:09Speaker 1: Asia like that's or like South Asia, India, Africa, and
- 17:13Speaker 1: the Middle East, and I'll just screenshot it and share
- 17:16Speaker 1: it and just reply like that. And they're speaking in like,
- 17:19Speaker 1: you know, they're not speaking like they're foreign. Their profile
- 17:23Speaker 1: pictures and their way of speaking sounds American, so you think, oh,
- 17:28Speaker 1: they're just American women. Dogging on the men to get
- 17:30Speaker 1: other women on board. But a lot of them are
- 17:32Speaker 1: not American and they're not white. So that's it. That's
- 17:35Speaker 1: all I wanted to say about that.
- 17:37Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean the issue that I have is, I
- 17:43Speaker 2: think again, like I'm always going to come across come
- 17:46Speaker 2: from this from the perspective that the corruption starts between
- 17:49Speaker 2: men and women. Yeah, and the people who are initially
- 17:53Speaker 2: pushing it wherever it ended up were definitely a bunch
- 17:57Speaker 2: of white liberal feminists, often radical feminist separatists in the
- 18:01Speaker 2: sixties and seventies, and certainly the Declaration of Sentiments was
- 18:05Speaker 2: also was also white liberal women. So I mean, I'm
- 18:09Speaker 2: gonna call them out. Possibly what's happening here is I'm
- 18:13Speaker 2: calling out the group of people I most resemble, and
- 18:16Speaker 2: maybe Brian is calling out you know. I don't mean
- 18:19Speaker 2: that in like an like an identitarian way, but there's
- 18:23Speaker 2: a resistance towards not wanting to be held accountable.
- 18:29Speaker 1: I want to get I don't want to get swept
- 18:31Speaker 1: up in the racial component. I don't think it's important. Yeah,
- 18:34Speaker 1: I mean like that that goes, that goes both ways, though,
- 18:37Speaker 1: Like so yeah, go ahead.
- 18:40Speaker 2: When I was watching that Democratic Senator. And I know
- 18:45Speaker 2: some people are saying she's Jewish, but I don't think
- 18:47Speaker 2: that really matters because she's modeling something. She is debasing
- 18:53Speaker 2: herself as a quote unquote white person, but she's doing
- 18:57Speaker 2: it because it justifies debasing boys as men and products
- 19:04Speaker 2: of the patriarchy. So she can say, well, I am
- 19:09Speaker 2: I'm I am taking my burden of guilt. Therefore that
- 19:13Speaker 2: justifies me pushing a burden of guilt on the boys
- 19:17Speaker 2: that I teach and have responsibility for. So it's like
- 19:21Speaker 2: it's like it's a delivery mechanism for that shaming of men.
- 19:26Speaker 2: But we're we are sort of we need to get
- 19:30Speaker 2: that far afield.
- 19:31Speaker 1: I know, I know, I just I'm just saying that.
- 19:34Speaker 1: I mean, I could say something about Jewish feminists that'll
- 19:38Speaker 1: get us probably banned, so I'm not going to. I'll
- 19:41Speaker 1: just leave it there. Let's let's move on.
- 19:44Speaker 2: I think they secularize the Jewish male guilt trip or
- 19:48Speaker 2: guilt complex.
- 19:51Speaker 1: Yeah. I think, Well, when I say Jewish, I don't
- 19:53Speaker 1: mean the religion. It's like there's like the ethnic group
- 19:57Speaker 1: and then there's the religious. It's not as simple as
- 20:00Speaker 1: other religions like Muslims are not a race, despite the
- 20:03Speaker 1: fact that Ben Affleck thinks they are. Christians are not
- 20:07Speaker 1: a race either, despite the fact Hollywood wants us to
- 20:09Speaker 1: think they are. But Jews are different. They have a
- 20:12Speaker 1: different thing that that they're kind of it's kind of
- 20:14Speaker 1: an ethnic group. They're genetically distinct. But also it's a religion,
- 20:17Speaker 1: but a lot of them are secular, so it's not
- 20:19Speaker 1: really a religion. It's it's very confusing, and I think
- 20:24Speaker 1: that's by design. But anyway, so let's let's let's see
- 20:28Speaker 1: the next You want me to read more of the.
- 20:29Speaker 2: Article, Yeah, sure, go ahead.
- 20:31Speaker 1: Okay, so we get into this twenty sixteen thing. Everything
- 20:35Speaker 1: is a mess for men, it's and that's where it started.
- 20:39Speaker 1: And again I.
- 20:39Speaker 2: Think of missing that that paragraph that you just I
- 20:43Speaker 2: think we stopped in the center finish it off because yea, yeah, thought.
- 20:47Speaker 1: Yeah. On the one hand, you want to celebrate people
- 20:49Speaker 1: who have been at a disadvantage. On the other hand,
- 20:52Speaker 1: you look and you say, wow, the world is not
- 20:54Speaker 1: rooting for you. In fact, it's deliberately rooting against you. Yes, yes,
- 20:59Speaker 1: And there's and there's a baitans, which they're too because
- 21:02Speaker 1: like whites. So we have to talk about this since
- 21:05Speaker 1: they are making it about race. To some degree, Whites
- 21:08Speaker 1: are a minority in the world, like globally, a global minority,
- 21:12Speaker 1: and men who are white are are a subset of
- 21:16Speaker 1: that global minority. And yet the narrative that's presented to
- 21:19Speaker 1: them that essentially puts them in a position of carrying
- 21:23Speaker 1: that guilt is the idea that they dominate everything. And
- 21:28Speaker 1: maybe from their perspective it looks that way because you
- 21:30Speaker 1: live in a Western country and you see people that
- 21:32Speaker 1: look like you, so you're more likely to believe that narrative.
- 21:35Speaker 1: But it's just not true.
- 21:36Speaker 2: So anyway, also they may dominate everything, even even if
- 21:42Speaker 2: they do dominate everything, is it unearned?
- 21:46Speaker 1: Well, I'm gonna I'm gonna.
- 21:47Speaker 2: I'm gonna say this, like when you say on celebrate
- 21:52Speaker 2: people who have been at a disadvantage. This is nonsense,
- 21:55Speaker 2: especially when it comes to women. I have looked through
- 21:59Speaker 2: the history of human endeavor, shall we say, and it
- 22:04Speaker 2: follows a specific pattern. Right, men start something, they build
- 22:11Speaker 2: it up until there is a risk benefit ratio that
- 22:17Speaker 2: slants more towards benefit. So they take all the risks,
- 22:21Speaker 2: they take, make all the sacrifices to build this thing up,
- 22:25Speaker 2: and then they onboard women as soon as it is
- 22:28Speaker 2: feasibly possible, right, as soon as the it's logistically possible,
- 22:35Speaker 2: and as soon as women do not have to bear
- 22:37Speaker 2: the risks of engaging in something that is new and different. Right. So,
- 22:44Speaker 2: if you look back through history, a lot of the
- 22:47Speaker 2: stuff that we consider to be just features of modern life,
- 22:54Speaker 2: like policing, like national borders, like trade networks, these are
- 23:01Speaker 2: things that men had to establish a considerable sacrifice for
- 23:05Speaker 2: themselves to basically tame land, to get rid of the marauders,
- 23:14Speaker 2: to make a safe space, to have a community, to
- 23:17Speaker 2: have a nation. Men did that, and these are all
- 23:20Speaker 2: startups throughout history. It was all startups that men engaged
- 23:24Speaker 2: in and cooperated to create. And then women are on
- 23:28Speaker 2: boarded when it's logistically feasible. And that's the history of
- 23:33Speaker 2: the human race. It's very simple, it's very low key,
- 23:36Speaker 2: it's very pragmatic. Why would you do that? Because you
- 23:39Speaker 2: can afford to lose ten percent of your men, Losing
- 23:44Speaker 2: ten percent of your fertile women's a little bit more chancy,
- 23:48Speaker 2: So that's why. And also men have a more interest
- 23:51Speaker 2: and risk taking. They're more able to tolerate risk, they're
- 23:54Speaker 2: more able to tolerate conditions, harsh conditions, they are more
- 23:58Speaker 2: likely to survive and interactions with people who are not
- 24:02Speaker 2: interested in seeing trade routes or national boundaries or being
- 24:08Speaker 2: policed in terms of their behaviors. So there's reasons why
- 24:11Speaker 2: men did it, and then women would be on board
- 24:13Speaker 2: and when feasible. That is the history of the human race.
- 24:16Speaker 2: There is no oppression. There is no oppression of men
- 24:19Speaker 2: by women or worry, there's no oppression of women by men. Sorry,
- 24:23Speaker 2: reverse that, yes, reverse that, there's none. And the fact
- 24:27Speaker 2: that women were excluded from things prior to men making
- 24:31Speaker 2: them safe for women to join is not oppression. So
- 24:35Speaker 2: there was no exclusion of women from these things. And again, yes,
- 24:40Speaker 2: sometimes there was bureaucracy in the way of bringing women in,
- 24:44Speaker 2: but that wasn't like an active inclusion, that's just cultural inertia.
- 24:48Speaker 2: But as soon as that was resolved, they were brought
- 24:50Speaker 2: in every single time, living in a nation state, enjoying
- 24:57Speaker 2: the protection of police, enjoying enjoying currency, enjoying credit, enjoying
- 25:04Speaker 2: bathrooms in public places. Right, all of this stuff started
- 25:08Speaker 2: by men. Women are onboarded as soon as it made sense.
- 25:12Speaker 2: That is the history of the human race. The fact
- 25:15Speaker 2: is that there is no comparison to freezing men out.
- 25:21Speaker 2: If you want to look at men and women in
- 25:23Speaker 2: these gestalt entities, let's do it freezing men out of
- 25:26Speaker 2: the things they created and they made available to men
- 25:30Speaker 2: to women. There is no comparison between freezing men out
- 25:35Speaker 2: of the things that they created and then subsequently made
- 25:38Speaker 2: available to women, then women freezing men out of the
- 25:44Speaker 2: things that they created. One is just a process, the
- 25:48Speaker 2: other is active in justice. And men need to get
- 25:51Speaker 2: pissed because this is utterly unfair and there is no comparison.
- 25:55Speaker 2: There's no celebration here. There's absolutely no celebration here because
- 26:00Speaker 2: there was no oppression to begin with. It is actually
- 26:05Speaker 2: a horrible thing that is being done. Men build something,
- 26:09Speaker 2: women come in, and then the men go out because
- 26:12Speaker 2: the women say, oh you, you don't belong here anymore.
- 26:16Speaker 2: That's the injustice. The original men building things and making
- 26:20Speaker 2: them safe for women to come in. That's not an injustice.
- 26:23Speaker 2: That's just pragmatism. All right. I'm just I wanted to
- 26:29Speaker 2: rant it. That freaking thing is its bullshit?
- 26:34Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, okay. As the Trump administration takes a chainsaw
- 26:41Speaker 1: to the diversity equity and inclusion apparatus. There's a tendency
- 26:44Speaker 1: to portray DEI as a series of well meaning but
- 26:47Speaker 1: ineffectual HR models. Undoubtedly, there has been ham ficed DEI
- 26:52Speaker 1: programming that is intrusive or even alienating, explained Kegan Chigan
- 26:57Speaker 1: wait Ke and Kianga Yamada Taylor in The New Yorker.
- 27:02Speaker 1: But for the most part, it is a relatively benign
- 27:05Speaker 1: practice meant to increase diversity while also sending a message
- 27:08Speaker 1: that workplaces should be fair and open to everyone. Well,
- 27:11Speaker 1: it says case closed, then we can just we can
- 27:14Speaker 1: all go home. It was it meant well, and that's
- 27:17Speaker 1: all that matters.
- 27:17Speaker 2: Okay, But here's here's the here's the proof in the pudding.
- 27:22Speaker 1: Yamada Taylor is a just so you guys know, she's
- 27:26Speaker 1: an academic of African American studies and intersectional feminist. That's
- 27:31Speaker 1: what That's what the the was gonna say. The woman
- 27:34Speaker 1: is of the sixties and seventies brought they brought intersectionality.
- 27:39Speaker 2: But anyway, yeah, just more excuses to shit on men.
- 27:43Speaker 2: But yeah, okay, the proof is in the pudding. Right
- 27:50Speaker 2: if this was, if they were excluded unfairly in a
- 27:55Speaker 2: system that was supposed to be about merit andnctionally was
- 28:00Speaker 2: really about sexism. Right, why is it that these institutions
- 28:06Speaker 2: are all universally failing? Like, really, you did this, You're
- 28:11Speaker 2: all DEI We're going to bring in all of this
- 28:14Speaker 2: merit that's been excluded. And what is happening? Burning, failing, crashing, disintegrating.
- 28:22Speaker 2: What the replica, the replicated replica, the replicability, replicatability, the replicatability.
- 28:31Speaker 2: I know that's the wrong way to pronounce it, but
- 28:32Speaker 2: let's go with that crisis in academia. Right, when did
- 28:36Speaker 2: that really heat up? Okay? The media is no longer
- 28:41Speaker 2: able to support itself financially. Hollywood is a burning trash
- 28:46Speaker 2: fire of absolute slewish drivel. Right at the animation industry,
- 28:52Speaker 2: which was also taken over in this way, it's crap.
- 28:56Speaker 1: Like our cultural all of our cultural outlets, like all
- 28:59Speaker 1: of the arts are absolutely books, animation, comics, film, television,
- 29:07Speaker 1: music plays like it's all done, it's all done. And
- 29:14Speaker 1: they say movies. I didn't say movies. Movies.
- 29:17Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 29:17Speaker 1: Journalism, yeah, journalism's cook.
- 29:20Speaker 2: It's absolute crap. And I mean, honestly, I almost think
- 29:23Speaker 2: that we should read through this whole article because it
- 29:25Speaker 2: elaborates everything, everything that we've talked about. And again, what
- 29:31Speaker 2: is the proof in the pudding all of the Are
- 29:34Speaker 2: these industries been improved by these DEI efforts? No, they
- 29:40Speaker 2: are in fact dying. Every institution that adopted this is
- 29:44Speaker 2: worse off. The truth is that these institutions turn their
- 29:51Speaker 2: talent away at the door. Yeah, men and white men,
- 29:57Speaker 2: you are the talent and you always wore.
- 30:01Speaker 1: Well at the very least. It excludes like it's it's
- 30:05Speaker 1: leaving out like a tremendous a tremendous amount of potential.
- 30:09Speaker 1: And in fact, I think that one another thing that's
- 30:12Speaker 1: part of this problem is bringing in people who are
- 30:15Speaker 1: less talented but more diverse, or less able but more diverse,
- 30:19Speaker 1: actually hurts the talented people that are already there too,
- 30:22Speaker 1: because they become a part of the They bring down
- 30:25Speaker 1: the quality, they dilute the level of skill. Right, So
- 30:29Speaker 1: if you do have, like you know, women that know
- 30:31Speaker 1: how to do their jobs, that are good at writing
- 30:33Speaker 1: or directing, but they're working with women who don't because
- 30:36Speaker 1: and they're there because diversity, then even the competent women
- 30:40Speaker 1: are gonna become less effective. You know, It's like being
- 30:43Speaker 1: in a team where you're you're Michael Jordan and everybody
- 30:46Speaker 1: else is like the WNBA.
- 30:48Speaker 2: You know, I don't know if that's okay, let'll be qualified.
- 30:53Speaker 2: You're right, because what really happened is that they took
- 30:57Speaker 2: a meritocratic system. Yeah, it had its problems, it had nepotism,
- 31:01Speaker 2: it had its casting couch, which incidentally would help bolster
- 31:05Speaker 2: women's careers over men's. But regardless, you know, it had
- 31:09Speaker 2: its problems, but it was meritocratic, and obviously so since
- 31:14Speaker 2: everything is a flaming ruin now, and they replaced it
- 31:17Speaker 2: with something that basically is nepotistic and politically driven. So
- 31:23Speaker 2: people have to tap dance out the woke dance in
- 31:28Speaker 2: order to even be considered. And when you select for
- 31:33Speaker 2: political adherents and sophistry, you get crap.
- 31:41Speaker 1: Well, I mean, DEI is inherently nepotistic because you're basically
- 31:45Speaker 1: showing up and getting like a position based on nothing
- 31:49Speaker 1: to do with your ability, or at least not much.
- 31:52Speaker 1: Just like, hey, I'm do you have any disabled Asian
- 31:56Speaker 1: lesbians in there? Nowell, you're gonna have to hire me
- 31:59Speaker 1: because you have one. And it's it's all, It's like, uh,
- 32:02Speaker 1: it's it's worse than I know the guy and like
- 32:05Speaker 1: my you know, my dad is your boss kind of
- 32:08Speaker 1: a thing. I mean that's bad, but like, yeah, this
- 32:11Speaker 1: is worse because you can get more people that are
- 32:13Speaker 1: less talented. But anyway, yeah, I got I got a
- 32:17Speaker 1: rumble rant and a super chow Oh cool. Oh yeah,
- 32:21Speaker 1: rumble rant from Nova fan twenty one who gives a
- 32:23Speaker 1: dollar and says, feel free to correct me. But I
- 32:26Speaker 1: heard in the nineties and in the two thousands there
- 32:28Speaker 1: was a similar feminist discrimination in the tech world that
- 32:31Speaker 1: made it unfair for men to hold a job in tech.
- 32:36Speaker 1: There probably was. They probably called it something else. I mean,
- 32:39Speaker 1: we we've had de I forever called it affirmative action.
- 32:43Speaker 2: So yeah, exactly, it's it's always been there, and even
- 32:46Speaker 2: before then, it's it's had a less codified version, which
- 32:51Speaker 2: is simply the heat. It's just a human instinct. Men
- 32:55Speaker 2: men colonize something and they bring women on board. That's
- 33:00Speaker 2: like it's like continuous throughout our our history, the men
- 33:04Speaker 2: doing this, from settling the West to whatever Rome did
- 33:08Speaker 2: in the you know, the first during its founding, you know,
- 33:11Speaker 2: the Savine women and stuff. It's always men going out
- 33:15Speaker 2: hunting the masted on making the the it's safe, and
- 33:21Speaker 2: then women come in and they enjoy the benefits. And
- 33:25Speaker 2: we've just codified that with words like affirmative action and
- 33:29Speaker 2: DEI and then we've we've we've tried to politically justify
- 33:34Speaker 2: it by including minority groups who have been in some
- 33:37Speaker 2: ways disadvantaged, right, but it ultimately the instinct is to
- 33:42Speaker 2: benefit women, and that is who this benefits most, because
- 33:47Speaker 2: when you get rid of men white men, eventually you
- 33:52Speaker 2: get rid of all of the men who are the
- 33:54Speaker 2: white men of their category, like black men who are
- 33:56Speaker 2: the white men of black people, and game who are
- 34:01Speaker 2: the straight, straight white men gay people. Yeah, it's absurd,
- 34:07Speaker 2: but you'd see that's the logic. That's the logic they use.
- 34:10Speaker 2: So once they get rid of all the white men,
- 34:13Speaker 2: they're gonna start winnowing it down further and further, Like
- 34:16Speaker 2: right now you can maybe leverage being Asian or being
- 34:20Speaker 2: black as a man, or being gay as a man
- 34:23Speaker 2: into certain positions. They're gonna get rid of that too.
- 34:26Speaker 2: They're just gonna continue to use this rhetoric to just
- 34:31Speaker 2: outright discriminate against the penis people.
- 34:34Speaker 1: Well that that, yeah, and that's one of the reasons
- 34:36Speaker 1: why they go after white men because there's a lot
- 34:38Speaker 1: of non white men that'll be like, well, it's not
- 34:41Speaker 1: they're not coming after me, you know, or they'll even
- 34:44Speaker 1: feel a sense of like satisfaction like oh yeah, we're
- 34:47Speaker 1: gonna give it to the give it to whitey. And
- 34:49Speaker 1: then when Whitey's gone, they're just gonna go after the
- 34:52Speaker 1: next group. And it's gonna be like, well, what's a
- 34:54Speaker 1: shade you know, darker than the whitey. You know, we'll
- 34:57Speaker 1: go after the Latinos they're basically part white. Let's just
- 35:00Speaker 1: go as the Asians. They're white adjacent, right, And it
- 35:04Speaker 1: counts on people over you know, that are concerned about
- 35:07Speaker 1: the racial component to ignore what's actually happening. And so
- 35:12Speaker 1: that that's why again, you know, all of this this isms,
- 35:15Speaker 1: the isms have to die. You know. Walt Disney made
- 35:17Speaker 1: a cartoon about isms like a long time ago and
- 35:20Speaker 1: how it was used to divide people, and I think
- 35:24Speaker 1: people should watch that cartoon. It came out he was
- 35:27Speaker 1: worried about communists. He wasn't an anti semi he was
- 35:31Speaker 1: anti communist. Yeah, it's not it's not help you guys
- 35:34Speaker 1: confuse the two. But anyway, like, yeah, just saying.
- 35:40Speaker 2: All right, I was watching the New the New Fallout
- 35:43Speaker 2: and the and the female main character is like, oh,
- 35:46Speaker 2: the Communists did this. I'm like, wow, I've never seen
- 35:49Speaker 2: such an like making the Communists the enemy.
- 35:54Speaker 1: You can't mess with that. Yeah, like the Chinese. I mean, granted,
- 35:59Speaker 1: I think I don't. I don't know the fall Out
- 36:01Speaker 1: lore that well. I played Fallout three and that was it.
- 36:04Speaker 1: I was thinking about getting in the Fallout four, but
- 36:07Speaker 1: or New Vegas. But but apparently like you're you're like
- 36:11Speaker 1: a vault dweller. Maybe the Vault dwellers are really like
- 36:15Speaker 1: you know, they they only know what the propaganda told
- 36:17Speaker 1: them about the war. And so she is playing that
- 36:21Speaker 1: role which could still subvert like the actual plot at
- 36:25Speaker 1: some point later, because I guess they went to war
- 36:27Speaker 1: with the Chinese and that's how the nuclear thing happened.
- 36:33Speaker 2: Refreshing that it's sort of refreshing for the Commis to
- 36:35Speaker 2: occupy the.
- 36:36Speaker 1: Space, you know, IM with I want to see more
- 36:39Speaker 1: Commi villains. Yeah, I'm kind of burned out on Nazis guys.
- 36:43Speaker 1: I mean they're really well dressed, you know, they know
- 36:45Speaker 1: how to bring bring the outfit together. But I see
- 36:48Speaker 1: them everywhere. It's a little and the word's been overused.
- 36:51Speaker 1: Let's see, you know some Communists maybe some I don't know,
- 36:54Speaker 1: like some huns, like something obscure, like you know, something
- 37:00Speaker 1: we haven't seen before. Some you know, Philistines. How about
- 37:04Speaker 1: the Philistines back? But anyway, all right, I got a
- 37:09Speaker 1: super chow from ZARANX who gives us ten dollars and says,
- 37:14Speaker 1: regarding the focus on Jewish people, I asked some before
- 37:17Speaker 1: my Twitter account was suspended, that's probably what got you
- 37:20Speaker 1: suspended if Charles Fourier was Jewish and presented my case.
- 37:24Speaker 1: Fourier was against Jewish people, and he preceded Karl Marx.
- 37:28Speaker 1: His sentiments that women should compete with men and that
- 37:32Speaker 1: marriage is a prison for women are exactly the foundation
- 37:35Speaker 1: of what's severely her society today. I don't care for
- 37:38Speaker 1: the Jewish people are responsible. I don't care for the
- 37:42Speaker 1: Jewish people are responsible considering a very real path of
- 37:44Speaker 1: operation women are following and have been since women were
- 37:47Speaker 1: tricked by Rosie the Riveter. It's hard enough contending with
- 37:51Speaker 1: women operating in such a way that they gave up
- 37:54Speaker 1: areas they dominated to fail even when they received the
- 37:56Speaker 1: special treatment they demanded. Throwing in seemingly anti Semitic stuff
- 38:01Speaker 1: is making a different set of demands. Many will love
- 38:04Speaker 1: to give us defeat. But at the end of the day,
- 38:07Speaker 1: and I've said this myself too, let's just say, for
- 38:11Speaker 1: the sake of argument, that the Jews did everything that
- 38:14Speaker 1: people claim that they did. Let's say that they completely
- 38:17Speaker 1: They created porn, They they created booze and drugs, and
- 38:20Speaker 1: and they blamed it all on white people, and they
- 38:22Speaker 1: like you know, sowed propaganda, control the media. All of that.
- 38:26Speaker 1: Let's say, for the sake of argument, all of it
- 38:28Speaker 1: is true. We still, as as you know, individuals, make
- 38:32Speaker 1: choices what we support and believe and not. So like,
- 38:35Speaker 1: even if all of that is true, if women go
- 38:37Speaker 1: along with it, or if men go along with it,
- 38:40Speaker 1: then they are culpable for going along with it. So
- 38:42Speaker 1: we still get to say no, no more, especially if
- 38:46Speaker 1: you like learn like where it comes from or not.
- 38:49Speaker 1: It doesn't matter where it comes from, it matters what
- 38:51Speaker 1: the behavior is. Like this is, these are the ideas,
- 38:53Speaker 1: these are values, you know, avoid these.
- 38:55Speaker 2: I think how it comes down to, how do you
- 38:58Speaker 2: fix it? If there was a corruption in the relationship
- 39:02Speaker 2: between men and women, it doesn't matter who did it,
- 39:05Speaker 2: it's who perpetuates it, who internalizes it, and who makes
- 39:09Speaker 2: it part of their life, and that has to change.
- 39:12Speaker 2: And the thing is that, like I mean, Seneca falls
- 39:16Speaker 2: the Declaration of Sentiments, did the Jews do that too?
- 39:20Speaker 2: You know?
- 39:21Speaker 1: I even if they did, what matters is that everyone
- 39:27Speaker 1: who came after, whether they were Jew or gentile, they
- 39:30Speaker 1: followed suit and they went along with the narrative. So like,
- 39:33Speaker 1: it doesn't matter where the root is. What matters is
- 39:35Speaker 1: what where do we stop it?
- 39:37Speaker 2: Right? Mm hmm.
- 39:38Speaker 1: Like I had a guest. I had a guest on
- 39:40Speaker 1: my show a while back, and they were they were
- 39:47Speaker 1: like game developers, and they were talking about like where
- 39:51Speaker 1: they thought the problems came from. And they said, well,
- 39:54Speaker 1: I don't like all the women blaming. And they were
- 39:56Speaker 1: trying to get me to say it's the Jews, and
- 39:58Speaker 1: I said, well, look, even if it's it's true, women
- 40:00Speaker 1: are going along with it. So like, what are you
- 40:02Speaker 1: going to do. It's like saying, well, Lyndon Johnson is
- 40:05Speaker 1: the reason why we're in bad shape, Well we can't
- 40:07Speaker 1: go dig him up and like wag a finger at
- 40:09Speaker 1: him because he created the welfare state. But we can
- 40:12Speaker 1: tell the people who are currently trying to use the
- 40:14Speaker 1: welfare state to stop using it or to find a
- 40:17Speaker 1: better way. That's what I'm saying, right, Yeah, it's.
- 40:20Speaker 2: The way of feeling like you're taking responsibility while taking none.
- 40:24Speaker 1: Yeah. And I think people like they want to have
- 40:29Speaker 1: any kind of scapegoat and I think it's just not productive,
- 40:33Speaker 1: Like I think that you know, and again I'm open
- 40:36Speaker 1: to it being true, but I don't think it's productive
- 40:38Speaker 1: to simply scapegoat and not like say, okay, now where
- 40:41Speaker 1: do we go from here?
- 40:42Speaker 2: You know? Yeah, sure enough. But I'm I'm quite happy
- 40:45Speaker 2: to blame women.
- 40:46Speaker 1: No, I'm okare of blaming women for things that they do.
- 40:48Speaker 2: Yes, I just want to point out that I want
- 40:50Speaker 2: to ask men, who are the people who actually destroy
- 40:54Speaker 2: your lives? Yeah? Is it really the Jews?
- 40:58Speaker 1: Yeah?
- 41:00Speaker 2: A Jew that you had children with and they took
- 41:03Speaker 2: your children away? Is it a Jew that got promoted
- 41:07Speaker 2: over you in uh in in. I don't know, academia
- 41:11Speaker 2: or media or any are they the ones really?
- 41:15Speaker 1: You know?
- 41:16Speaker 2: Is it is it a Jew who falsely accused you?
- 41:18Speaker 1: Yeah? At some point of some kind of at some
- 41:22Speaker 1: point you have to like, you know, the buck stops somewhere.
- 41:26Speaker 2: Yeah, the buck stocks somewhere, and it's the place where
- 41:29Speaker 2: nobody wants to go. What a surprise. Okay, let's let's
- 41:33Speaker 2: do a little bit more.
- 41:34Speaker 1: All right, all right, so anyway, uh so, but for
- 41:38Speaker 1: the most part, yeah, but benign I pactice. This may
- 41:41Speaker 1: be how boomer and Gen X white men experienced DEI,
- 41:44Speaker 1: but for white male millennials, DEI wasn't a gentle rebalancing.
- 41:48Speaker 1: It was a profound shift in how power and prestige
- 41:50Speaker 1: were distributed. Yeah. Yeah, practically none of the thousands of
- 41:54Speaker 1: articles and think pieces about diversity have considered the issue
- 41:57Speaker 1: by Cohort.
- 41:59Speaker 2: Well, because that's where the rubber met the road, that's
- 42:02Speaker 2: where the policies started to really be instituted. Okay, And ultimately,
- 42:09Speaker 2: this article I think edges towards blaming general gen.
- 42:13Speaker 1: Z and Boomers. Yeah, I think that. I think that
- 42:18Speaker 1: with as a gen x er, I think that we
- 42:21Speaker 1: were as much uh you know, blinded by the the
- 42:26Speaker 1: sort of narratives of at least ginocentrism, right, I mean
- 42:30Speaker 1: definitely ginocentrism and romantic chivalry, because it was it was everywhere,
- 42:34Speaker 1: it was ubiquitous, and that that comes with a in
- 42:40Speaker 1: you know, like a drive or like a push to
- 42:43Speaker 1: prioritize women's safety and comfort over men's.
- 42:47Speaker 2: So yeah, well, well here's the thing. The Boomer and
- 42:50Speaker 2: gen Z gen gen Z or gen X men, they
- 42:54Speaker 2: were part of building all of these things, okay, and
- 42:58Speaker 2: then they built the risks were taken, the tropes were erected,
- 43:05Speaker 2: like there was all all everything was made safe, and
- 43:10Speaker 2: then women were on boarded in the millennial and gen
- 43:12Speaker 2: Z generation. And that's that's basically what it was. Those
- 43:17Speaker 2: men built all of this and now it was time
- 43:20Speaker 2: to bring on the women and they did and gen
- 43:23Speaker 2: Z and uh millennial men were squeezed out. And it's
- 43:28Speaker 2: not it's like and it's not really those men that
- 43:32Speaker 2: are responsible. It's not Boomer and X gen X men
- 43:35Speaker 2: who are really responsible. It's the march of feminism through
- 43:40Speaker 2: the institutions and the capture of feminism of the academic
- 43:47Speaker 2: engine of understanding society through the relationship between men and women.
- 43:52Speaker 2: That's what was picking at. That was that was the
- 43:55Speaker 2: salt water corroding the the foundation, right, just just just
- 44:01Speaker 2: slowly dripping in and destroying it and making it crumble.
- 44:05Speaker 2: That's where it came from right and again, like Brian
- 44:09Speaker 2: was saying, I don't think boomer, I mean know, I'm
- 44:11Speaker 2: probably boomer. Men thought they were doing the right thing,
- 44:13Speaker 2: and Jen's X just you know, gone along to get
- 44:17Speaker 2: along and uh, you know and that and so yeah,
- 44:20Speaker 2: they could have stopped it. But at that point, and
- 44:24Speaker 2: a lot of during all of this, if they had
- 44:27Speaker 2: tried to stop it, they would have been that guy
- 44:29Speaker 2: during a time when they could have lost a lot.
- 44:32Speaker 2: And what's interesting about this particular article is at some
- 44:35Speaker 2: point the millennial men and the gen Z men, they
- 44:39Speaker 2: don't want to they don't want to make their they
- 44:41Speaker 2: don't want to tie their name to what they're saying
- 44:44Speaker 2: because they don't want to be that guy. Well, it's
- 44:47Speaker 2: exactly the same with previous generations of men, except previous
- 44:51Speaker 2: generations of men had something to lose, Like they had
- 44:55Speaker 2: a job to lose in the creative industries or in
- 44:57Speaker 2: media or in academia. They had something to lose, and
- 45:00Speaker 2: that job was probably supporting a family. You guys don't,
- 45:03Speaker 2: and you're still playing the I don't want to be
- 45:05Speaker 2: that guy game, Like, have some sympathy if you're going
- 45:08Speaker 2: to be someone who says, well, I don't want to
- 45:11Speaker 2: put my face out there because I want to be
- 45:13Speaker 2: that guy. And you don't even have a career in
- 45:16Speaker 2: this industry that you're cowtowing to, and you're sucking up
- 45:19Speaker 2: to by towing the Bardi line. Have some sympathy for
- 45:23Speaker 2: the generations of men before you who had to do
- 45:26Speaker 2: this to keep a job they actually had and that
- 45:31Speaker 2: people relied on them for having. Right, And I know
- 45:35Speaker 2: that I'm being pointed here, but it really bogs me
- 45:40Speaker 2: when men start to do this thing again where they
- 45:42Speaker 2: start to blame other groups of men. It's not other
- 45:45Speaker 2: groups of men. It is the women in feminist academia
- 45:50Speaker 2: that constructed this entire corrosive narrative that ate at the
- 45:55Speaker 2: foundations of all of these institutions. And then it just
- 45:58Speaker 2: blew out and that it was, you know, twenty fourteen
- 46:01Speaker 2: was when it all collapsed or started to collapse, right.
- 46:05Speaker 2: And it's like, and if you are going to be like,
- 46:07Speaker 2: I don't want to be that guy and you don't
- 46:09Speaker 2: even have a career in these industries to save, then again,
- 46:13Speaker 2: what do you think the boomer men and the gen
- 46:15Speaker 2: x men were dealing with? Right? It takes this a
- 46:19Speaker 2: very special person to be like, fuck it, I'm gonna
- 46:23Speaker 2: say whatever I want and so be if that is,
- 46:26Speaker 2: if it lands me any particular where, then I'll just
- 46:29Speaker 2: build from where I land. And most men don't have
- 46:35Speaker 2: that courage. Most people don't have that courage anyway. I
- 46:40Speaker 2: just wanted to point that out there. I know it's
- 46:42Speaker 2: a little bit more condemning, but.
- 46:45Speaker 1: No, it's fine, it's fine. I mean, I think that
- 46:48Speaker 1: the other thing too, is that the boomermen, but they
- 46:51Speaker 1: were around for the whole like civil rights thing, which
- 46:55Speaker 1: included the feminist movement. It probably co opted by night
- 47:00Speaker 1: and I think they had a lot of guilt. And
- 47:03Speaker 1: I think that the they were the hippies too, so
- 47:05Speaker 1: they were trying to change change everything that you know,
- 47:09Speaker 1: they were convinced because remember, like during the time of
- 47:11Speaker 1: Gen X and the Boomers, there was no alternative forms
- 47:16Speaker 1: of like alternative ways of getting information. You got all
- 47:19Speaker 1: your information from the same place. You got it from
- 47:22Speaker 1: the TV, you got it from you know, the newspaper,
- 47:25Speaker 1: and all of those outlets were already like more or
- 47:28Speaker 1: less on the side of whatever the zeitgeist was, so
- 47:31Speaker 1: you just sort of went along with it. That's why
- 47:33Speaker 1: I say, you know, like gen Xers were definitely you know,
- 47:38Speaker 1: swept up in the romantic chivalry thing because it wasn't
- 47:41Speaker 1: a time of war, the Cold War, but like, you know,
- 47:45Speaker 1: I didn't even know what that was about. I mean
- 47:48Speaker 1: as because I was just distracted, you know. And I
- 47:51Speaker 1: think that one of the reasons why I believe the
- 47:54Speaker 1: Boomers and gen Xers went along with it too, was
- 47:56Speaker 1: because they didn't think that it would become this. They
- 48:00Speaker 1: thought that there would be gratitude, you know, there would
- 48:04Speaker 1: be gratitude and some utopian equality thing like oh, this
- 48:09Speaker 1: is so great. And they didn't think that women were
- 48:11Speaker 1: going to vindictively exclude men as a result, like to
- 48:16Speaker 1: you know, in order to correct to correct history, as
- 48:19Speaker 1: it were, and that I think that it caught a
- 48:21Speaker 1: lot of guys in my generation off guard.
- 48:24Speaker 2: Basically, what women did is you know, those those those
- 48:27Speaker 2: survival horror movies, and and you have your your cadre
- 48:32Speaker 2: that's trying to fight against the zombies and you see
- 48:35Speaker 2: want somebody on the side of the road and there,
- 48:38Speaker 2: and then the cynical dude is like, don't don't stop,
- 48:42Speaker 2: just keep going forget it. Fuck them, and then you
- 48:45Speaker 2: pull over to let the woman in and she shoves
- 48:48Speaker 2: you out of the car and takes over the wheel.
- 48:52Speaker 2: That's what feminists did. And it is about as justified
- 48:57Speaker 2: and moral and righteous as that men pulled over to
- 49:03Speaker 2: let them on and they shoved men out. It is.
- 49:09Speaker 2: And the fact that anybody thinks that this was something
- 49:13Speaker 2: other than an incredible injustice, especially the way it was framed,
- 49:18Speaker 2: especially the way it was framed, mm hm, get pissed,
- 49:23Speaker 2: and just one other thing, like I I will say
- 49:28Speaker 2: that it is really unfortunate the mess that gen Z
- 49:34Speaker 2: and the millennials have inherited. And this is amorking mess,
- 49:39Speaker 2: you know, And it's unfortunate that the boomers and the
- 49:43Speaker 2: gen Z and the gen X men didn't stop it.
- 49:46Speaker 2: But again, pressures on them, and they should have, but
- 49:49Speaker 2: they didn't have the language to explain what women were
- 49:55Speaker 2: doing and how annihilated it.
- 49:57Speaker 1: Again, they assumed that women were like that it was
- 50:01Speaker 1: gonna be something that would benefit them. It was like
- 50:03Speaker 1: the the It was an act in the hopes that
- 50:08Speaker 1: there was going to be some like loving you know,
- 50:12Speaker 1: return like pay it forward type of thing like That's yeah,
- 50:16Speaker 1: I think they were it was naive, but I think
- 50:18Speaker 1: that's what they thought.
- 50:21Speaker 2: And then and then the woman nation attacked. Yeah, well
- 50:26Speaker 2: caxt paer.
- 50:30Speaker 1: All right, so that's how Yeah, so when Boomer and
- 50:33Speaker 1: gen X, this isn't a story about all white men.
- 50:39Speaker 1: It's a story about white male millennials in professional America,
- 50:42Speaker 1: about those who stayed and who mostly stayed quiet the
- 50:45Speaker 1: same identity, a decade apartment, entirely different professional fates. If
- 50:50Speaker 1: you were forty and twenty fourteen, born in nineteen seventy four,
- 50:54Speaker 1: beginning your career in the late nineties, you're already established.
- 50:57Speaker 1: If you were thirty and twenty fourteen, you hit the wall.
- 51:00Speaker 1: Because the mandates that diversify didn't fall on older white men,
- 51:05Speaker 1: who in many cases still wield enormous power. They landed
- 51:09Speaker 1: on us. See that there's the bullshit right there. Yeah,
- 51:12Speaker 1: like you are seeding ground by saying that this is
- 51:15Speaker 1: the land acknowledgment thing that I keep seeing, this is
- 51:18Speaker 1: the land acknowledgement. Well, we white guys didn't have a
- 51:21Speaker 1: lot of power, you know. I heard Louis c k
- 51:24Speaker 1: do a bit on it.
- 51:26Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, you built something and you had power over it. Wow,
- 51:30Speaker 2: that's so unjust. Yeah, And honestly, what really killed all
- 51:37Speaker 2: this is the feminists went to war against male mentorship
- 51:43Speaker 2: of other men and that kind of fraternal brotherhood around
- 51:48Speaker 2: these institutions that built these institutions. Okay, and this doesn't help,
- 51:54Speaker 2: Like this is just more of the same that destroyed it.
- 51:57Speaker 2: And nobody wants to say this that men's ability to
- 52:00Speaker 2: cooperate with an external goal is what builds these things.
- 52:05Speaker 2: These are the startups that I keep talking about through
- 52:07Speaker 2: all of human history. Men build these things together because
- 52:10Speaker 2: they have this phenomenal ability to cooperate that that even
- 52:15Speaker 2: exceeds women's ability to cooperate magnitudes. I'm sorry, guys, it's
- 52:21Speaker 2: just true. Women don't cooperate very well. No, they can,
- 52:27Speaker 2: I don't know, consolidate power over men, and they can
- 52:31Speaker 2: distribute stuff, but they don't cooperate very well. Men cooperate
- 52:35Speaker 2: extremely well, and they build stuff like this, and feminism
- 52:39Speaker 2: went to war against male cooperation, called it some kind
- 52:42Speaker 2: of toxic sludge that leaks into society from the toxic
- 52:48Speaker 2: spill that's patriarchy, and they destroyed it. So now there
- 52:53Speaker 2: is no mom It's not just that there's all these
- 52:56Speaker 2: institutional prerogative to prerogatives to bring in on unrepresented minorities
- 53:03Speaker 2: and women. It's also that they actively destroyed male mentorship,
- 53:10Speaker 2: call it old boys club. And what has happened as
- 53:13Speaker 2: a result of this. I'm not gonna I'm not gonna
- 53:15Speaker 2: I'm not gonna shut up about this anymore. What has
- 53:18Speaker 2: happened as a result of all of feminism's actions to
- 53:22Speaker 2: destroy mentorship between men, brotherhood between men, old boys network,
- 53:26Speaker 2: whatever else. What has happened to all of our institutions
- 53:30Speaker 2: that have now been governed by feminist initiatives and feminist
- 53:35Speaker 2: beliefs about the relationship between men and women and feminist
- 53:38Speaker 2: beliefs about controlling men. What has happened to them? They
- 53:41Speaker 2: have all gone to shit. The proof is in the pudding,
- 53:45Speaker 2: and I am not freaking shutting up about it.
- 53:48Speaker 1: Okay, yep, all right, So this is a really long article.
- 53:55Speaker 1: I do have some like I don't know about, like
- 53:59Speaker 1: if you want to me, just keep reading the whole thing,
- 54:01Speaker 1: or I have like five central arguments that were made
- 54:07Speaker 1: in this because there's also still the flowchart to look at,
- 54:12Speaker 1: and are the advice that you were going to give.
- 54:16Speaker 2: Yeah, sure, let's do that. Then let's go through the flow.
- 54:19Speaker 2: Let's go through the five central arguments.
- 54:22Speaker 1: Okay, so we covered one of the ones I had
- 54:25Speaker 1: was that in twenty fourteen that marked a pivotal institutionalization
- 54:29Speaker 1: of DEI policies that systemically reduced opportunities for white male millennials.
- 54:34Speaker 1: Right then the other part another argument is a DEI
- 54:39Speaker 1: driven hiring and media explicitly prioritized non white male candidates,
- 54:43Speaker 1: often openly excluding white men verbatim. Quote from this article
- 54:47Speaker 1: of verbatim, it was given that we weren't going to
- 54:53Speaker 1: hire the best person. It was jarring how we would
- 54:57Speaker 1: talk about excluding white guys, attributed to a senior hiring
- 55:01Speaker 1: editor at a major outlet. And there's some examples. Twenty
- 55:09Speaker 1: one hires at Conde NAS was only twenty five percent
- 55:12Speaker 1: male and only forty nine percent white. So they're twenty
- 55:16Speaker 1: five percent male, which means they were hiring not just
- 55:20Speaker 1: non white people, but they were also hiring women. California
- 55:25Speaker 1: Times thirty nine percent male, thirty one percent white. Digitay
- 55:29Speaker 1: Publisher Statistics Pro Publica sixty six percent women, fifty eight
- 55:34Speaker 1: percent people of color in twenty twenty one hires NPR
- 55:38Speaker 1: WOW seventy eight percent new hires people of color and women.
- 55:45Speaker 1: It's not broken down by gender, but I'm guessing it's
- 55:49Speaker 1: probably mostly women. The Atlantic Post twenty twenty highers nearly
- 55:53Speaker 1: two thirds women, nearly fifty percent people of color, nearly
- 55:56Speaker 1: two thirds women. This is everywhere. When we talked about
- 55:59Speaker 1: the animation in the street too, there are specific unions
- 56:03Speaker 1: that are formed with the explicit purpose of altering the
- 56:08Speaker 1: hiring practices of companies. So there was like this group,
- 56:12Speaker 1: I can look it up again. It was called Women
- 56:14Speaker 1: in Animation. I brought on Luke while back to talk
- 56:17Speaker 1: about it, and they had a goal. It was like
- 56:20Speaker 1: fifty fifty by twenty thirty or something like that, where
- 56:23Speaker 1: they were going to have fifty percent women in every
- 56:27Speaker 1: position like a showrunners, animators, artists, whatever, by the year
- 56:32Speaker 1: twenty thirty. Maybe it was even sort of than that,
- 56:34Speaker 1: and I think they've long surpassed that, Like I think
- 56:36Speaker 1: it's mostly women now there. And of course, because it's
- 56:39Speaker 1: a union, it can like apply a lot of pressure
- 56:43Speaker 1: to employers to actually do that. So that was that
- 56:48Speaker 1: was another thing. I don't know if you wanted to
- 56:49Speaker 1: say anything about that, And.
- 56:50Speaker 2: Yeah, women in Animation, Yeah, well, okay, well I can
- 56:54Speaker 2: look at the statistics here. I don't know, I think
- 56:56Speaker 2: you just covered media in journalism academia, which is what
- 57:00Speaker 2: we're talking about. This is across the board everywhere. White
- 57:04Speaker 2: men's tenure track positions in the humanities at Harvard felled
- 57:07Speaker 2: from thirty nine percent in twenty fourteen to eighteen percent
- 57:11Speaker 2: in twenty twenty three. And what I want you guys
- 57:13Speaker 2: to notice is that across the board, the big changes
- 57:18Speaker 2: are between how many men versus how many women. White
- 57:22Speaker 2: men were fifty five percent of Harvard's arts and sciences faculty,
- 57:27Speaker 2: but only twenty seven percent of tenure track positions in
- 57:30Speaker 2: two thousand twenty four. You see Berkeley's white male hires
- 57:37Speaker 2: drop from fifty two point seven percent in twenty fifteen
- 57:40Speaker 2: to twenty one point five in twenty twenty three. Now
- 57:44Speaker 2: they're not they're just getting rid of white men, they're
- 57:46Speaker 2: not actually replacing them that much with men of other
- 57:51Speaker 2: other ethnicities. You see Irvine and you see Santa Cruz
- 57:56Speaker 2: had hired very few white men for tenor track positions
- 57:59Speaker 2: four point seven and three percent, respectively. BROWNI You've Reiversity
- 58:03Speaker 2: hired only three white American men out of fifty four
- 58:07Speaker 2: sorry forty five ten year track professors professors since twenty
- 58:12Speaker 2: twenty two, right, so that's six percent. So it's like,
- 58:16Speaker 2: this is this is basically pushing men out of academia right,
- 58:22Speaker 2: just completely. And this is I mean, we could probably
- 58:25Speaker 2: segue into looking at that flow chart and talk about that.
- 58:29Speaker 2: I would recommend reading the article. It is example after
- 58:33Speaker 2: example after example after example of men being frozen out
- 58:38Speaker 2: of these careers. And of course, as we all know,
- 58:42Speaker 2: they're being frozen out and for some reason, all of
- 58:45Speaker 2: these industries and institutions and organizations are cratering, they're becoming
- 58:52Speaker 2: far worse. And let's let's just let's look at the
- 58:56Speaker 2: flow chart and we'll talk through that.
- 58:58Speaker 1: Well, I want to I want to add something else
- 58:59Speaker 1: to which is the effects of this, and I have
- 59:02Speaker 1: another another bit from the article, so the broader exclusion.
- 59:06Speaker 1: So what this is leading to is essentially a tremendous
- 59:08Speaker 1: imbalance in not just like the job opportunities because they're
- 59:13Speaker 1: prioritizing women, uh and people of color, but like women
- 59:17Speaker 1: largely over men, and they're all they're doing in education
- 59:21Speaker 1: as well. What this is doing is it's it's creating,
- 59:25Speaker 1: it's leading to personal stagnation and delayed life milestones for
- 59:29Speaker 1: men and without them pivoting successfully into other fields. The
- 59:34Speaker 1: quote from here says, it's taking a toll on this
- 59:37Speaker 1: Ethan person, who's one of the anecdotes. It's taking a
- 59:41Speaker 1: toll on Ethan's personal life. He's been with his partner
- 59:43Speaker 1: for seven years, but they've spent much of that time
- 59:46Speaker 1: treading water. They want kids, but without the financial security
- 59:50Speaker 1: of a ten year track position, it's daunting. Referring to Ethan,
- 59:54Speaker 1: who's who's in academia, White men in in medicine have
- 59:59Speaker 1: dropped dropped from thirty one percent from thirty one percent
- 1:00:03Speaker 1: in twenty fourteen to twenty percent in twenty twenty five,
- 1:00:07Speaker 1: so that white men in medical as medical students was
- 1:00:10Speaker 1: already like below half in twenty fourteen, and it dropped
- 1:00:14Speaker 1: even lower. Law school metriculence dropped for men from thirty
- 1:00:21Speaker 1: one percent in twenty sixteen to twenty five percent in
- 1:00:23Speaker 1: twenty twenty four. The Google workforce white men went from
- 1:00:28Speaker 1: nearly half in twenty fourteen to less than a third
- 1:00:31Speaker 1: in twenty twenty four. Amazon mid level managers went from
- 1:00:34Speaker 1: fifty five percent white males to thirty three percent, and
- 1:00:38Speaker 1: so on. And so the reason why this is a
- 1:00:41Speaker 1: big problem is because while men's opportunities have stagnated or
- 1:00:46Speaker 1: dropped or have been basically like blockaded and gate kept
- 1:00:52Speaker 1: by this wok ideology. Essentially, the women's preferences and what
- 1:00:57Speaker 1: they want in men hasn't changed. So women are looking
- 1:01:00Speaker 1: for men that don't exist because the men don't have
- 1:01:04Speaker 1: the same prospects because the women have been given the
- 1:01:08Speaker 1: men those prospects. And I would bet you if you
- 1:01:11Speaker 1: ask women, hey, why can't you find a good man,
- 1:01:14Speaker 1: and you tell them, well, here's all the things that
- 1:01:17Speaker 1: we put into place to support women, there would probably
- 1:01:19Speaker 1: be a not insignificant number of women who would say,
- 1:01:23Speaker 1: why haven't men capitalized on their privilege to get a
- 1:01:26Speaker 1: better job so that I can find a good man?
- 1:01:28Speaker 1: Essentially still doubling down on the privilege aspect, which I
- 1:01:32Speaker 1: think a lot of women are brought into, if not
- 1:01:34Speaker 1: most of them, now definitely most of them, without considering
- 1:01:38Speaker 1: that all of the advantages that they have been given
- 1:01:40Speaker 1: has essentially put men in a position where they can't
- 1:01:44Speaker 1: find someone and women are not going to I'm sorry,
- 1:01:47Speaker 1: They're not going to become breadwinners for men in most cases.
- 1:01:51Speaker 1: So this is going to be a problem for forming
- 1:01:53Speaker 1: families as well, yep, it is not just the affordability thing,
- 1:01:56Speaker 1: which I know everyone's talking about right now. It's us
- 1:02:00Speaker 1: the fact that men can't find a woman who will
- 1:02:04Speaker 1: take them as they are because there's you know, like
- 1:02:07Speaker 1: because they're not making enough and women care about that. Yeah.
- 1:02:12Speaker 2: Yeah, Well the biggest, one of the biggest uh factors
- 1:02:17Speaker 2: for a man to become to be married is income,
- 1:02:21Speaker 2: and one of the biggest factors for a man to
- 1:02:23Speaker 2: be divorced is a loss of job around the world, So, yeah,
- 1:02:27Speaker 2: women haven't stepped up and actually changed their attitudes towards
- 1:02:30Speaker 2: what they want in a partner while squeezing men out
- 1:02:35Speaker 2: of the positions that would have given them access to
- 1:02:39Speaker 2: what women want in a partner. It's it's remarkable, is it.
- 1:02:43Speaker 2: And also in shittifying all of the things that switched
- 1:02:49Speaker 2: over to these DEI initiatives. Yeah, okay, so are you
- 1:02:56Speaker 2: are you completed?
- 1:02:57Speaker 1: I'm done? That's that's it, all right, Let's get the
- 1:03:00Speaker 1: flow chart then.
- 1:03:01Speaker 2: Yeah, also get the flow chart. So this basically this
- 1:03:04Speaker 2: flow chart is for young men thinking about college, right,
- 1:03:09Speaker 2: don't like the very first thing is don't they're gonna
- 1:03:13Speaker 2: take your money, They're gonna leave you with a debt,
- 1:03:16Speaker 2: and you're most likely gonna have agree a degree that
- 1:03:19Speaker 2: you can't get employed with because you are being actively
- 1:03:22Speaker 2: discriminated against as a man with a college degree, specifically
- 1:03:28Speaker 2: a man with a college degree. And the reason why
- 1:03:32Speaker 2: you're being discriminated against is because they're trying to give
- 1:03:35Speaker 2: all of those opportunities to women and minorities. And this
- 1:03:39Speaker 2: is just this is just reality. This isn't red pill rage,
- 1:03:45Speaker 2: this isn't evil man a sphere. This is literally what
- 1:03:48Speaker 2: they said they were going to do and they have
- 1:03:50Speaker 2: done it. And this is the reality that gen Z
- 1:03:53Speaker 2: and millennial men live with right now. So we might
- 1:03:58Speaker 2: as well, you know, and yes, get mad because this
- 1:04:02Speaker 2: is manifestly unfair, but also get pragmatic and look at
- 1:04:09Speaker 2: what you can do to improve your life and make
- 1:04:12Speaker 2: sure you don't fall into these pitfalls. Right if you're
- 1:04:15Speaker 2: currently in education, this might be of benefit. Maybe you
- 1:04:18Speaker 2: can do some lateral moves. If you are thinking about education,
- 1:04:23Speaker 2: definitely listen to what we're saying, because really, all you're
- 1:04:27Speaker 2: going to do is hand twenty five to thirty thousand
- 1:04:33Speaker 2: dollars to the nearest feminist professor who is then going
- 1:04:37Speaker 2: to turn it around and make up more male bashing
- 1:04:40Speaker 2: crap with it. That's what these institutions are doing. That
- 1:04:45Speaker 2: is that this is their primary output at this point.
- 1:04:50Speaker 2: That and will basically taking money from you for degrees
- 1:04:54Speaker 2: that are worthless, especially like in particular if you're a man.
- 1:04:58Speaker 2: So let's let's let's take a look. Let's take a
- 1:05:01Speaker 2: look at this. I'm ready, all right, your body is prepared,
- 1:05:05Speaker 2: is it okay?
- 1:05:09Speaker 1: Then?
- 1:05:09Speaker 2: Alright? So thinking about college? I guess I'll get you
- 1:05:12Speaker 2: to scroll there. All right, So you're young man thinking
- 1:05:17Speaker 2: about college right before you even consider this, there's another
- 1:05:22Speaker 2: something to think about, and that is the culture on
- 1:05:26Speaker 2: college campuses. Right right now, women on college campuses are
- 1:05:32Speaker 2: more dangerous than any other group of women in society.
- 1:05:36Speaker 2: That is because they have access to kangaroo courts that
- 1:05:40Speaker 2: seem to regard evidence of innocence to be some kind
- 1:05:43Speaker 2: of ideological sin.
- 1:05:47Speaker 1: Right.
- 1:05:48Speaker 2: Fortunately, I don't know if he's still operating, but there
- 1:05:50Speaker 2: used to be someone I forget his name, but he
- 1:05:54Speaker 2: did a website called Falsely Accused Students are Falsely Accused,
- 1:05:58Speaker 2: and he would track the lawsuits related to men who
- 1:06:03Speaker 2: had been falsely accused on college campuses and the egregious
- 1:06:08Speaker 2: failures of due process. So essentially, on a college campus,
- 1:06:14Speaker 2: the women are the most dangerous they are in society
- 1:06:18Speaker 2: because they are weaponized by these star courts that will
- 1:06:22Speaker 2: presume you guilty, right, and they'll even presume you guilty
- 1:06:27Speaker 2: when her own statements indicate you were the one who
- 1:06:32Speaker 2: was raped. Remember that case. Yeah, I mounted John Doe
- 1:06:39Speaker 2: while he was unconscious in the coatroom, and afterwards I
- 1:06:43Speaker 2: was contemplating how I didn't really want it out. You go,
- 1:06:48Speaker 2: and you got a black mark on your academic record,
- 1:06:51Speaker 2: Try getting into another school. Right, don't fuck with these girls.
- 1:06:57Speaker 2: They are landmines. So if you're if you're wanting to
- 1:07:01Speaker 2: deal with that, if you want to deal with that,
- 1:07:03Speaker 2: then we'll go further. So thinking about college, is an
- 1:07:07Speaker 2: employer or the military paying one hundred percent of your
- 1:07:11Speaker 2: tuition and fees. If that's the case, go ahead and go.
- 1:07:17Speaker 2: You're not taking the risk and somebody is going to
- 1:07:20Speaker 2: give you a job at the end. I mean maybe
- 1:07:23Speaker 2: maybe not if you're going in the military, maybe you
- 1:07:25Speaker 2: we'll get a job in the military. But if a
- 1:07:27Speaker 2: business is paying for you to go, obviously they consider
- 1:07:31Speaker 2: you an asset and they want to develop you for
- 1:07:33Speaker 2: a job, Go ahead and go. Someone else is footing
- 1:07:36Speaker 2: the bill. It's not your risk, and that's probably the
- 1:07:40Speaker 2: only reason to go. The only reason to go into
- 1:07:43Speaker 2: education if is somebody, if your employer, is paying for it.
- 1:07:49Speaker 2: But if that's not the case, let's let's go down
- 1:07:52Speaker 2: a bit and look at the Look at the know
- 1:07:54Speaker 2: on that decision tree. There you go. We're going to know. So, yes,
- 1:07:59Speaker 2: you are being paid to learn, perceive, but choose ruthlessly
- 1:08:02Speaker 2: practical fields to go down no warning. You are about
- 1:08:08Speaker 2: to self fund a risky, politicized product that often fails
- 1:08:12Speaker 2: to deliver for men. Look at that, think very carefully
- 1:08:17Speaker 2: about it. Not only are you going to be going
- 1:08:22Speaker 2: to be going into something that you may not find
- 1:08:24Speaker 2: any benefit for, but you are going to be funding
- 1:08:28Speaker 2: the people who are constructing this nightmare. All right, So
- 1:08:32Speaker 2: you still want to do that even after that warning.
- 1:08:34Speaker 2: Let's continue, all right, And just a note on where
- 1:08:39Speaker 2: we're going next. The way that I looked at this
- 1:08:43Speaker 2: is I looked at what the unique value propositions that
- 1:08:48Speaker 2: men offer society, and so what you have that's uniquely
- 1:08:53Speaker 2: a result of your masculinity or being a man, nobody
- 1:08:57Speaker 2: else can acknowledge this stuff. Even conservative have a problem
- 1:09:00Speaker 2: with it because it means that we're not blowing glitter
- 1:09:04Speaker 2: up the asses of women. But you, as a young man,
- 1:09:07Speaker 2: do have value propositions, and you should think carefully of
- 1:09:11Speaker 2: where you apply them for your own benefit. Now, if
- 1:09:15Speaker 2: you're looking at this and you're saying, you know what
- 1:09:17Speaker 2: quiet quitting is for me, good for you. Quiet quit
- 1:09:21Speaker 2: disappear out of this society because you don't owe them
- 1:09:24Speaker 2: a damn fucking thing. You don't owe anyone in this
- 1:09:27Speaker 2: society a damn fucking thing. And if that quiet quitting
- 1:09:31Speaker 2: is your thing, do it. Find a simple job, batten
- 1:09:36Speaker 2: down the hatches, get a bachelor apartment, live your life,
- 1:09:39Speaker 2: enjoy your hobbies. Do it. I am not telling you
- 1:09:45Speaker 2: to go and be part of the system, but if
- 1:09:48Speaker 2: you insist on it, right, use your advantages to your
- 1:09:54Speaker 2: own advantage. I'm gonna tell you what the advantages that
- 1:09:58Speaker 2: men have. You are better at math, full stop. You
- 1:10:03Speaker 2: are better at geometry full stop. One. In fact, you
- 1:10:07Speaker 2: are hilariously better than women. I want to can you
- 1:10:12Speaker 2: pull up the uh that one link that the cognitive Yeah, yeah,
- 1:10:21Speaker 2: it's still divide sexes. It's I'm gonna I'm.
- 1:10:25Speaker 1: Gonna covered a while back. I remember the topical, right,
- 1:10:30Speaker 1: So it's the cognitive puzzle. Yeah, so this is puzzle
- 1:10:36Speaker 1: that just still divides the sexes.
- 1:10:38Speaker 2: Right, Okay, go down and let's let's look at the
- 1:10:40Speaker 2: cognitive puzzle. This is a puzzle that many women who
- 1:10:44Speaker 2: go to college fail, something like, yes, that one you
- 1:10:49Speaker 2: see this? You got two glasses. One, well, you have
- 1:10:54Speaker 2: two things. A is a glass that is about, you know,
- 1:10:59Speaker 2: maybe two fifth full of water, all right, And B
- 1:11:03Speaker 2: is they're asking you to indicate with a line where
- 1:11:08Speaker 2: the water level would be if you tilt the glass.
- 1:11:12Speaker 2: Women fail this. Women going to college fail this. All right,
- 1:11:20Speaker 2: So take a moment and think about that. You have
- 1:11:24Speaker 2: vastly superior spatial and mathematical intelligence. Lean into it. If
- 1:11:28Speaker 2: you know any young men who are in middle school
- 1:11:32Speaker 2: or higher, tell them to start learning math, eating up
- 1:11:35Speaker 2: as much math as they can. Lean into that. The
- 1:11:40Speaker 2: other thing you have physically stronger.
- 1:11:42Speaker 1: There.
- 1:11:42Speaker 2: It is a absolute joke. Every time I hear women say,
- 1:11:46Speaker 2: oh my god, we could go tee to toe, it's
- 1:11:48Speaker 2: social bullshit. Men are physically stronger, and it's an absolute joke.
- 1:11:52Speaker 2: The difference, right, you are physically stronger. You are also
- 1:11:56Speaker 2: more capable of dealing with risk. Now, this would have
- 1:12:00Speaker 2: been great for men going into creative endeavors and creating
- 1:12:04Speaker 2: all kinds of new things, but of course we can't
- 1:12:06Speaker 2: do that anymore. All of those things are being taken
- 1:12:08Speaker 2: over by women so that they can create their damn
- 1:12:11Speaker 2: fanfic and shitty art. Right, But you are much more
- 1:12:16Speaker 2: risk taking, okay. You also are much more tolerant of
- 1:12:21Speaker 2: extremes of weather, mechanically inclined, much better at solving mechanical problems.
- 1:12:28Speaker 2: So at this point in time, all of these things
- 1:12:31Speaker 2: sort of aim towards the trades and infrastructure jobs, and
- 1:12:35Speaker 2: those jobs are not going to be They're not going
- 1:12:38Speaker 2: to be automated and turned into AI anytime soon. Because
- 1:12:42Speaker 2: I have worked with AI. It is a bullshit art
- 1:12:45Speaker 2: artist par excellence. You can't vibe code the electrical grid.
- 1:12:50Speaker 2: And if they do, I hope that is the end
- 1:12:52Speaker 2: of Western I hope that everybody rises up in the
- 1:12:55Speaker 2: Civil war, because that's going to be such a shit show.
- 1:12:58Speaker 2: All right, go back to go back to the back
- 1:13:02Speaker 2: to the flow chart. All right, So what I'm what
- 1:13:04Speaker 2: I'm counseling you on is to Lean into your strengths
- 1:13:07Speaker 2: as a man, Learn what they are Forget all of
- 1:13:10Speaker 2: this bullshit about how everybody's equal. But of course women
- 1:13:13Speaker 2: have all the all the good things and men have
- 1:13:15Speaker 2: all the bad things. Right, women are girls or sugar spice,
- 1:13:19Speaker 2: and boys or puppy dog. Lean into what your benefits
- 1:13:23Speaker 2: as a man, what you value proposition that you have
- 1:13:26Speaker 2: all right, do you have clear proof of strong quantitative ability?
- 1:13:32Speaker 2: So when you're deciding to go into go into the
- 1:13:37Speaker 2: going to advanced education, are you actually in like the
- 1:13:42Speaker 2: top ten percentile for mathematical ability? Are you actually up there?
- 1:13:47Speaker 2: And probably also verbal because you're gonna have to be
- 1:13:50Speaker 2: able to write things and bullshit your way through some
- 1:13:53Speaker 2: humanities courses. If you take an undergraduate and science for example, right,
- 1:13:57Speaker 2: make sure you're in the top. Otherwise, don't bother. Go
- 1:14:03Speaker 2: find something else, Go create a either go into the trades,
- 1:14:07Speaker 2: go into infrastructure jobs, or start a business. Right, go
- 1:14:13Speaker 2: into those things. Those things will make sense, all right,
- 1:14:18Speaker 2: So do you have a queer proof of strong qualitative ability?
- 1:14:21Speaker 2: Go down, We're going to know right down the right
- 1:14:26Speaker 2: over a little bit, Okay, skip university, look at trades, apprenticeships,
- 1:14:29Speaker 2: high commission sales or starting a business. Sales are good
- 1:14:32Speaker 2: for men because of the aforementioned risk. You're you're more
- 1:14:37Speaker 2: you're more willing to gamble. Okay, move over a bit
- 1:14:39Speaker 2: so we can see the other than the yes tree. Okay,
- 1:14:44Speaker 2: are you willing to do five to ten years of
- 1:14:47Speaker 2: hard technical work or research? So you're thinking about this, Okay, yes,
- 1:14:51Speaker 2: I'm in the top ten percent and I'm willing to
- 1:14:54Speaker 2: do five to ten years of hard work. And here's
- 1:14:58Speaker 2: the thing. Don't go to college because you want a party,
- 1:15:03Speaker 2: that is, don't do it. Go to college and treat
- 1:15:07Speaker 2: it like a job if possible. Live off the campus,
- 1:15:11Speaker 2: do not interact with the women, no offense, like they're
- 1:15:16Speaker 2: very dangerous at this point. Go there and focus on
- 1:15:21Speaker 2: making this your career. Okay, if you're willing to sacrifice that,
- 1:15:26Speaker 2: because the thing is, you don't want to stop with
- 1:15:29Speaker 2: a bachelor's. The bachelors is useless, right, but if you
- 1:15:35Speaker 2: get to a master's you could end up being employed
- 1:15:38Speaker 2: in a business sense. So let's see. Yes, Okay, go down,
- 1:15:46Speaker 2: all right, Yes, I should probably control this.
- 1:15:50Speaker 1: No, got it?
- 1:15:51Speaker 2: Yeah? Okay, Okay, if you cannot handle five to ten
- 1:15:55Speaker 2: years of concentrated study, that will get you a master's.
- 1:16:00Speaker 2: Go to shorter and applied paths only two to three
- 1:16:04Speaker 2: year programs and trades, engineering, tech, business, coding, et cetera.
- 1:16:08Speaker 1: Right, go back up.
- 1:16:11Speaker 2: We got to go back to yes, So, yes, you
- 1:16:12Speaker 2: can handle that. Can you finish a bachelor's with under
- 1:16:16Speaker 2: twenty k total debt? Right? You want to minimize your debt?
- 1:16:20Speaker 2: So do you have family helping you? Do you have scholarships? Well,
- 1:16:24Speaker 2: good luck with that. Right you're a white man or
- 1:16:27Speaker 2: even a minority man, good luck getting scholarships. But can
- 1:16:30Speaker 2: you finish it under twenty thousand in debt? Because you
- 1:16:33Speaker 2: got to think about that. You're gonna have to pay
- 1:16:35Speaker 2: this back, which means you're going to have to have
- 1:16:37Speaker 2: a job at the end of it. I mean that
- 1:16:40Speaker 2: at that point, not having the debt makes a lot
- 1:16:43Speaker 2: more sense. So let's go down. But let's say no warning,
- 1:16:49Speaker 2: do not enroll. For most men, high debt plus today's
- 1:16:53Speaker 2: labor market equals a bad deal. So if you're not
- 1:16:56Speaker 2: having help with your tuition, roll right you probably you
- 1:17:03Speaker 2: may you may do it anyway, but don't say I
- 1:17:06Speaker 2: didn't warn you. Can we go over to the right.
- 1:17:10Speaker 1: I think it is the.
- 1:17:14Speaker 2: Other way the other way over here? Yeah, is your
- 1:17:18Speaker 2: intended major qualitatively requantitatively rigorous, and male tolerant. So what
- 1:17:24Speaker 2: that means is does it lean into your strengths as
- 1:17:27Speaker 2: a man mainly? Does it use a lot of math
- 1:17:29Speaker 2: or geometry or mechanical thinking? Okay? Does it have does
- 1:17:37Speaker 2: it still have over fifty percent mail? Okay? If that's
- 1:17:41Speaker 2: the case, then go ahead. What some examples of those?
- 1:17:47Speaker 2: I could probably take a I just have to. I
- 1:17:50Speaker 2: have a lot of documents and tabs open. Sorry, guys,
- 1:17:52Speaker 2: it's sometimes it's difficult to navigate through everything. Fair, Yeah, okay,
- 1:17:59Speaker 2: So field and aptitude considerations, okay. Cognitive research shows a
- 1:18:08Speaker 2: large sex difference in three D spatial visualization ability, often
- 1:18:11Speaker 2: measured with mental rotation texts. Men dominate the high ability
- 1:18:15Speaker 2: tail that feeds engineering and hard stem so, of course
- 1:18:18Speaker 2: engineering and hard stem business too, fields that remain relatively
- 1:18:23Speaker 2: safer and more rewarding for quantitatively strong men's strengths. Engineering,
- 1:18:29Speaker 2: computer science, cybersecurity, applied a l mL, accounting, finance, operations research,
- 1:18:35Speaker 2: quantitative econ economics, some applied sciences, and forensics, criminology with
- 1:18:41Speaker 2: clear industry pipelines. So if you do want to do
- 1:18:44Speaker 2: something that's more sociology adjacent. Criminology is probably a good bet.
- 1:18:49Speaker 2: Fields that are high risk for men in terms of
- 1:18:52Speaker 2: return on investment in ideological climate. Most humanities stay the
- 1:18:56Speaker 2: fuck away from the humanities. English generic studies may stop science,
- 1:19:02Speaker 2: soft social sciences, sociology, gender studies, social work, education, any
- 1:19:06Speaker 2: major with a majority female cohort and weak labor market,
- 1:19:11Speaker 2: especially at non elite institutions, So avoid and go towards
- 1:19:17Speaker 2: certain things. Unfortunately, if you're a guy who would would
- 1:19:20Speaker 2: have been like, I don't know this, this generation's Mark Twain,
- 1:19:27Speaker 2: you're probably not going to get anywhere in humanities, which
- 1:19:31Speaker 2: is really unfortunate. But we're dealing with a massive decline here,
- 1:19:36Speaker 2: so keep yourself safe. All right, let's go to let's
- 1:19:41Speaker 2: go down the tree, just down what yes, what is
- 1:19:48Speaker 2: your intended ceiling? Okay, so how far do you expect
- 1:19:52Speaker 2: to go?
- 1:19:53Speaker 1: All right?
- 1:19:53Speaker 2: If you're going to stop after masters, plan bachelor's in
- 1:19:57Speaker 2: a hard field, terminal mass if needed, exit quickly into
- 1:20:01Speaker 2: the private industry. You are not likely to get an
- 1:20:05Speaker 2: academic career, all right. So if you are, if that's fine,
- 1:20:09Speaker 2: You get your masters in a hard field that emphasizes
- 1:20:14Speaker 2: your strength as a man. And this is why you
- 1:20:17Speaker 2: do that because women will never really dominate those fields.
- 1:20:24Speaker 2: And in particular, like and this is outside the academic sphere,
- 1:20:29Speaker 2: women are never going to dominate line work in Saskatchewan,
- 1:20:33Speaker 2: for example, because it requires you to go out in
- 1:20:36Speaker 2: negative forty degree wind chill fixing things that could electrocute you. Right,
- 1:20:43Speaker 2: So there are places that women will never go sort
- 1:20:46Speaker 2: of focus on them. Also, incidentally, those are the places
- 1:20:49Speaker 2: that are least likely to be taken over by AI.
- 1:20:52Speaker 2: So that's the consideration as well as you know, it
- 1:20:54Speaker 2: sweeps through like a wave of acid in the employment
- 1:20:57Speaker 2: market anyway, So if you're intended calling his PhD academic
- 1:21:01Speaker 2: academic career go down a bit, let's like, let's take
- 1:21:04Speaker 2: a look at that. Go over here, Yeah, over warning
- 1:21:10Speaker 2: only makes sense if you're already on top of your
- 1:21:12Speaker 2: cohort with elite references. And even then, even then, be
- 1:21:17Speaker 2: prepared for stone walling, be prepared for a stalled career,
- 1:21:21Speaker 2: Be prepared to work a lot harder than anyone else.
- 1:21:24Speaker 2: Unless you're in an European college and you go over
- 1:21:27Speaker 2: to the States, they seem to be doing okay, europe
- 1:21:31Speaker 2: doesn't seem to have as much of this problem. Okay,
- 1:21:34Speaker 2: let's move to the to the left or right, which
- 1:21:37Speaker 2: I don't Okay, Yeah, that's the good. Keep going right here,
- 1:21:40Speaker 2: ye yep, keep going.
- 1:21:43Speaker 1: Oh sorry more okay, I.
- 1:21:45Speaker 2: Guess waving at you is not help. Okay. Default verdict,
- 1:21:50Speaker 2: don't go unless all criteria are met. Okay, So what
- 1:21:56Speaker 2: are all the criteria? You are ready for a sustained
- 1:22:00Speaker 2: effort of five to ten years, and you're okay with
- 1:22:03Speaker 2: not making money as you do that in a in
- 1:22:07Speaker 2: a academic study that naturally excludes women because it uses
- 1:22:12Speaker 2: skills they don't have. Means a lot of mathematics, a
- 1:22:17Speaker 2: lot of mechanics, a lot of three D rotation. All right,
- 1:22:20Speaker 2: are you ready for that? Get out at a master's
- 1:22:24Speaker 2: get a job in industry. Right, If you want to
- 1:22:27Speaker 2: go for your PhD, your options are more limited because
- 1:22:31Speaker 2: you are going to be faced. You're going to be
- 1:22:32Speaker 2: going right into the lines's den the discrimination against people
- 1:22:37Speaker 2: like you. They aren't going to want to hire you
- 1:22:40Speaker 2: in academics in academia, and also there is higher levels
- 1:22:45Speaker 2: of discrimination on the higher level R and D research
- 1:22:48Speaker 2: in corporations as well. So you've got to consider that,
- 1:22:52Speaker 2: and it's going to you're going to end up with
- 1:22:53Speaker 2: one hundred thousand plus in debt and nowhere to go
- 1:22:57Speaker 2: that the high likelihood that that's going to happen. Okay,
- 1:23:00Speaker 2: don't do a bachelor's, go for your master's, get into business.
- 1:23:04Speaker 2: That's okay. You can probably manage it if you go
- 1:23:06Speaker 2: into the hard sciences, if you're ready for five to
- 1:23:09Speaker 2: ten years of work, putting your nose to the grindstone,
- 1:23:13Speaker 2: not getting into parties, not getting into the campus life,
- 1:23:16Speaker 2: not getting dragged into the drama, and pretty much ignoring
- 1:23:19Speaker 2: every woman on campus, which is difficult because you know,
- 1:23:22Speaker 2: women on campus tend to be what the most attractive
- 1:23:25Speaker 2: they'll ever be, also the most dangerous, and not just
- 1:23:30Speaker 2: because they're empowered by the kangaroo courts on campus.
- 1:23:34Speaker 1: But also they just for what are you, college education?
- 1:23:38Speaker 2: So yeah, they're getting a college education, and not just that.
- 1:23:41Speaker 2: For whatever reason, this coming up cohort of women is
- 1:23:46Speaker 2: some of the most rapey, piggish women in history. Like
- 1:23:55Speaker 2: my generation of women actually had more consideration for sexual
- 1:23:59Speaker 2: violence against men then millennial women and Gen Z women
- 1:24:04Speaker 2: who are incredibly sexually entitled, incredibly violent, and they're just
- 1:24:11Speaker 2: they're just toxic. They have toxic attitudes towards men, toxic
- 1:24:16Speaker 2: resentful attitudes towards men. If you want to wade into that,
- 1:24:20Speaker 2: I would recommend you only do so if you have
- 1:24:23Speaker 2: the murderous charisma of someone like Wade Wilson. Yeah, take
- 1:24:30Speaker 2: that for what it was, all right, So go down
- 1:24:33Speaker 2: a bit, Okay, Yeah, operational rules for campus survival. I
- 1:24:39Speaker 2: am very you know, like you could take this with
- 1:24:41Speaker 2: a grain of salt. Maybe you'll end up with a
- 1:24:44Speaker 2: bunch of women who are like really cool. And yes,
- 1:24:47Speaker 2: I know this isn't perfect. There's all kinds of discrimination
- 1:24:51Speaker 2: now in trades as well, because they're they're desperately trying
- 1:24:55Speaker 2: to onboard women for whatever. I don't know why we've
- 1:24:58Speaker 2: decided that this is the way we want to die
- 1:25:00Speaker 2: as a society, but they're desperately trying to onboard women
- 1:25:03Speaker 2: into situations where they just don't work out. I remember, Jonathan,
- 1:25:09Speaker 2: my husband has had to have dental surgery quite a bit,
- 1:25:12Speaker 2: and we have to go to a nearby city and
- 1:25:15Speaker 2: he and I point this out because it takes a
- 1:25:18Speaker 2: while for him to finish his appointments, Like his appointments
- 1:25:21Speaker 2: could be like four hours five hours long. So I'm
- 1:25:23Speaker 2: like walking around this city. It's a small city. It's
- 1:25:26Speaker 2: like for for an American, you probably would consider it
- 1:25:29Speaker 2: like a town and just walking with the dog, just
- 1:25:33Speaker 2: passing time. And I passed this this playground and there's
- 1:25:39Speaker 2: a three woman team in you know, like in the
- 1:25:43Speaker 2: in the reflective vest kind of thing. So there's some
- 1:25:47Speaker 2: kind of I.
- 1:25:49Speaker 1: Don't know, city, Oh, you like they work on like
- 1:25:53Speaker 1: their road workers or something like.
- 1:25:56Speaker 2: City operatives, Like they go out and they fix things
- 1:25:59Speaker 2: or something. Well not that. Yeah, they're they're they're employed
- 1:26:02Speaker 2: by the city to to clear drains and do landscaping,
- 1:26:07Speaker 2: not these women, of course, but and do other stuff.
- 1:26:10Speaker 2: And I just sat down on a bench with the
- 1:26:13Speaker 2: dog and I watched them, and they wandered through the playground.
- 1:26:18Speaker 2: They inspected a slide. Three three women inspected a slide.
- 1:26:23Speaker 2: Then they sat down on a bench and a couple
- 1:26:25Speaker 2: of them were playing on the on the stuff and
- 1:26:28Speaker 2: and they were just chatting. And I'm like, what the
- 1:26:31Speaker 2: hell are these women doing? And then I'm like, okay,
- 1:26:35Speaker 2: well whatever, and I leave. There's I leave and they're
- 1:26:38Speaker 2: still just chatting and chumming away, and I leave and
- 1:26:42Speaker 2: I swear to God. Between where I park, where the
- 1:26:45Speaker 2: car was parked, and the dog park, which was my
- 1:26:47Speaker 2: ultimate aim, there were three other crews of men like
- 1:26:54Speaker 2: men bowing lawns, cutting bushes, clearing sewers, fixing roads, doing
- 1:27:02Speaker 2: doing real work. I just I was like, what are
- 1:27:06Speaker 2: the odds? I mean, I just went to that city
- 1:27:10Speaker 2: one day out of the year for no particular reason,
- 1:27:14Speaker 2: and this is what I see, Like, how what are
- 1:27:18Speaker 2: the odds that this isn't constantly happening. So, yes, they're
- 1:27:22Speaker 2: onboiding women into the trades and all of this stuff,
- 1:27:25Speaker 2: and it's unfortunate, it's unfair, but this minimizes the cost
- 1:27:29Speaker 2: to any guy personally. All right, So let's look at
- 1:27:33Speaker 2: the campus life risk management principles from all of the
- 1:27:39Speaker 2: horror stories that I've heard. If a man goes anyway,
- 1:27:42Speaker 2: he should treat campus life like a work site, not
- 1:27:45Speaker 2: a social playground. Live off campus where possible commute, attend leave,
- 1:27:49Speaker 2: keep interactions formal and professional, avoid parties, heavy alcohol, and
- 1:27:53Speaker 2: private situations that can feed into biased conduct processes. So
- 1:27:57Speaker 2: you're trying to avoid any situation where be interpreted poorly,
- 1:28:02Speaker 2: shall we say.
- 1:28:04Speaker 1: And.
- 1:28:05Speaker 2: Honestly, there is like I said, these these women, these
- 1:28:09Speaker 2: young women, very bad sense of boundaries, very violent, very
- 1:28:15Speaker 2: especially assaultive. And a lot of guys will be like,
- 1:28:18Speaker 2: oh ah, that's a that's my that that you know,
- 1:28:20Speaker 2: like that, don't don't, don't threaten me with a good time.
- 1:28:23Speaker 2: But when I've heard men actually go through these situations,
- 1:28:28Speaker 2: like I'll use a use an anecdotis of a guy
- 1:28:31Speaker 2: who watched his friend go through this situation. So his
- 1:28:34Speaker 2: friend got raped, you know, at a college party by
- 1:28:37Speaker 2: a woman just got on him when he was passed
- 1:28:40Speaker 2: out drunk, not not unconscious, trunk, like not not blackout, drunk,
- 1:28:45Speaker 2: unconscious drunk right, his friends pulled her off, and he
- 1:28:50Speaker 2: described how this this man was never the same again,
- 1:28:55Speaker 2: couldn't trust his his academic performance went to crap, and
- 1:28:59Speaker 2: he eventually disappeared, and you know where they did. Men
- 1:29:02Speaker 2: who endure this stuff go to drugs, homelessness institutions, and
- 1:29:07Speaker 2: eventually death right. So this is serious stuff. And even
- 1:29:11Speaker 2: if you think going into it is it's not going
- 1:29:13Speaker 2: to affect me, consider that she could then have turned
- 1:29:18Speaker 2: around and got his life ruined with a sexual assault allegation,
- 1:29:23Speaker 2: despite the fact that she was the one engaging in
- 1:29:26Speaker 2: the sexual assault. That's college life, you know, and you
- 1:29:32Speaker 2: can you can maybe get through all of this. You can.
- 1:29:35Speaker 2: If you're particularly charming. It probably doesn't apply to you,
- 1:29:39Speaker 2: you know, but you gotta be careful, focus on coursework,
- 1:29:44Speaker 2: projects and off campus networks for real career value. Treat
- 1:29:47Speaker 2: it like a job.
- 1:29:49Speaker 1: You know.
- 1:29:51Speaker 2: This is also really good to make sure you keep
- 1:29:53Speaker 2: the grades necessary to be in the top ten. All right,
- 1:29:59Speaker 2: So this, this is, this is what will make college
- 1:30:01Speaker 2: a reasonable choice. But ultimately it's not. Ultimately you're handing
- 1:30:06Speaker 2: money to the people who think you are slime. So
- 1:30:11Speaker 2: just imagine the most disgusting feminist professor and imagine giving
- 1:30:14Speaker 2: her twenty five to thirty thousand dollars and then spending
- 1:30:18Speaker 2: the rest a good portion of your life where you
- 1:30:20Speaker 2: may not get a job paying that off. All right, Okay,
- 1:30:27Speaker 2: that's that is the Those are those are the proactive
- 1:30:30Speaker 2: steps to take if you want to get a college degree.
- 1:30:34Speaker 2: I'm curious, what the what the what the chat is
- 1:30:37Speaker 2: thinking about all that? Uh Pencroll, Yeah.
- 1:30:43Speaker 1: Pencroll, Yeah for sure, Yeah, Mike Pencerll Yeah.
- 1:30:50Speaker 2: Yeah, mine.
- 1:30:54Speaker 1: No, I mean I think that I think that the
- 1:30:55Speaker 1: starting your own business thing is a really like worthwhile
- 1:30:59Speaker 1: option to explore, especially if you're already out of college.
- 1:31:02Speaker 1: I think that, like you need to the hell with
- 1:31:06Speaker 1: like these people breaking up male spaces and HR departments
- 1:31:11Speaker 1: and I'm just going to start my own business like it.
- 1:31:14Speaker 1: I don't know. I would like find some people maybe
- 1:31:17Speaker 1: even in the discord server or something. If you're not
- 1:31:20Speaker 1: in there, coordinate with or some friends, some people you
- 1:31:23Speaker 1: can trust and say, hey, man, you want to start
- 1:31:26Speaker 1: a business, because like it's the best way, you know.
- 1:31:29Speaker 1: I mean, where I live, a lot of guys they
- 1:31:31Speaker 1: have their own little things. You know, they drive a
- 1:31:33Speaker 1: tow truck, they do some yard you know, like some landscaping, roofing, whatever, plumbing.
- 1:31:40Speaker 1: I bet you can learn all that shit easily. And
- 1:31:44Speaker 1: just you know, I think that that starting your own
- 1:31:47Speaker 1: business is based on what I'm getting at. That's that's
- 1:31:49Speaker 1: where I would look into and partner up with some
- 1:31:52Speaker 1: other dudes that are all, like, you know, sick of
- 1:31:54Speaker 1: the same system. You probably can't find some like minded
- 1:31:58Speaker 1: folks exactly.
- 1:32:02Speaker 2: Yeah, so there you go. Hopefully that was helpful. I
- 1:32:06Speaker 2: hope it wasn't too down. But honestly, the numbers are
- 1:32:09Speaker 2: coming in. I feel vindicated when I was telling young
- 1:32:12Speaker 2: men fifteen years agoing onwards, don't go into higher education.
- 1:32:17Speaker 2: They don't want you. They're just going to declare war
- 1:32:19Speaker 2: on you. And it turns out it was a gigantic
- 1:32:24Speaker 2: con all along. They're going to take your money and
- 1:32:26Speaker 2: at the end of the day, you're going to get
- 1:32:28Speaker 2: nothing from it. You are going to be paying the
- 1:32:30Speaker 2: people who are destroying your life. Okay, all right, yeah, yeah,
- 1:32:41Speaker 2: I think I'm good. I hope that I protect I
- 1:32:44Speaker 2: hope some guys take my word for it. And if
- 1:32:46Speaker 2: you are in academia, consider some lateral moves if you
- 1:32:52Speaker 2: have to. If you are going to end up having
- 1:32:55Speaker 2: more hard masters, that good on you. You're already probably
- 1:33:00Speaker 2: in the best path you could take. Okay, all right,
- 1:33:05Speaker 2: So I think we have enough other super chow right
- 1:33:07Speaker 2: or did you?
- 1:33:08Speaker 1: Oh? Yeah, yeah, there was one other. Richard Bierre gave
- 1:33:11Speaker 1: us five and said, where are the stories about women
- 1:33:13Speaker 1: clamoring to be pony express writers and railroad breakemen. Also,
- 1:33:17Speaker 1: proper grammar is misogynistic somehow.
- 1:33:20Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a lot of others.
- 1:33:22Speaker 1: It's not time, it's uh misogynistic obviously.
- 1:33:26Speaker 2: Everything that allows for advanced society to run is anti woman.
- 1:33:33Speaker 2: We all just need the vibe code everything everything. There
- 1:33:40Speaker 2: you go, the supremacy of the vibes.
- 1:33:45Speaker 1: Vibe supremacy.
- 1:33:47Speaker 2: Yeah, vibe lives matter.
- 1:33:49Speaker 1: Vibe lives matter.
- 1:33:52Speaker 2: Somebody said that they were going to be a vibe minor.
- 1:33:55Speaker 2: You know that could actually be a good source. Oh yeah,
- 1:34:01Speaker 2: that get you know, figure that out, figure out how
- 1:34:04Speaker 2: you mind vibes. Make that your saying. Okay, all right,
- 1:34:11Speaker 2: so I've pretty much said everything I wanted to say. Hopefully,
- 1:34:17Speaker 2: if you know a young man, I know that nobody
- 1:34:20Speaker 2: wants to actually call stuff out and be honest about
- 1:34:24Speaker 2: what's happening. But help him out, you know, give him
- 1:34:29Speaker 2: the realistic assessment of the likelihood of getting a return
- 1:34:34Speaker 2: on spending you know, several grant or like a couple dozen,
- 1:34:39Speaker 2: like a couple tens of thousands of dollars on a
- 1:34:43Speaker 2: actual actual like diploma or like a degree. Like give
- 1:34:48Speaker 2: him a rundown and tell him what he's up against.
- 1:34:51Speaker 2: Like one of the biggest problems with all of this
- 1:34:53Speaker 2: is nobody wants to take responsibility for informing everyone else
- 1:34:58Speaker 2: that they're walking into a freakin snake pit, because it
- 1:35:03Speaker 2: means that we all blame women. Oh oh gosh, we
- 1:35:08Speaker 2: can't do that. How could How could I? Or blame
- 1:35:12Speaker 2: initiatives supposedly to benefit women which they really don't. But
- 1:35:17Speaker 2: that's another discussion for another day. All right, So, if
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- 1:36:02Speaker 1: All right, I do have another rumble rant, and Richard
- 1:36:04Speaker 1: Pierre says, is the super Child coming through? Okay, I'll
- 1:36:08Speaker 1: just read those of course. Yeah, you guys love waiting
- 1:36:11Speaker 1: till the last minute. Nova fan twenty one earlier sent
- 1:36:14Speaker 1: a rumble rant and said, we've seen leftists in fighting
- 1:36:17Speaker 1: Feminists identify gay men as the straight men of the group,
- 1:36:20Speaker 1: and BLM called straight black men the white men of
- 1:36:23Speaker 1: the group. You love to see it, Yeah, well, because
- 1:36:27Speaker 1: of eventually, the whole thing is built on creating like
- 1:36:31Speaker 1: tribal grievances between groups of people so that they can't unify,
- 1:36:35Speaker 1: and with men in particular, because you know, men are
- 1:36:38Speaker 1: really good at working together. That's a really good way
- 1:36:42Speaker 1: to wedge the differences. You separate you know, gay from straight,
- 1:36:47Speaker 1: black from white and brown and different whatever. Just just
- 1:36:51Speaker 1: do that, and of course you use threat narratives around
- 1:36:55Speaker 1: women to further and enforce that. And it's pretty active.
- 1:37:00Speaker 1: But I think, I don't know. I see a lot
- 1:37:03Speaker 1: of young guys especially, they're really not having it, like
- 1:37:06Speaker 1: they're really sick of it. So we'll see. I don't know.
- 1:37:09Speaker 1: It's hard to tell how big it is, but honestly
- 1:37:12Speaker 1: has not come through yet. I don't know if it's
- 1:37:14Speaker 1: stuck in the tubes or what. Yeah, unless he thinks
- 1:37:18Speaker 1: I didn't read the one I read, Yeah, I don't
- 1:37:21Speaker 1: see and stuff.
- 1:37:22Speaker 2: So I'll we've No, there isn't another one, Richard. He
- 1:37:28Speaker 2: read the one about the Pony Express riders. Unless you
- 1:37:31Speaker 2: want to get something in really quick. We've we've completed,
- 1:37:34Speaker 2: we have done all your tasks, sir, all right, Yeah, well,
- 1:37:37Speaker 2: I mean we could look at we could look at
- 1:37:39Speaker 2: the see if there's anything more in the chat that's
- 1:37:42Speaker 2: worth picking up to give sort of a did you
- 1:37:45Speaker 2: manage to get the the vertical working?
- 1:37:49Speaker 1: No? I couldn't get it working, but it's recording, so
- 1:37:52Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know. Like some I'll have to
- 1:37:55Speaker 1: like do a fresh like I might be able to
- 1:37:58Speaker 1: figure it out, but I'd have to do a fresh
- 1:38:00Speaker 1: restart of everything right until the show ended and then
- 1:38:03Speaker 1: and then look into it. It's one of these things
- 1:38:05Speaker 1: that once you start to know that I got, you
- 1:38:07Speaker 1: can't do while the stream is live.
- 1:38:10Speaker 2: So I am not seeing a super chow on the
- 1:38:13Speaker 2: on the backhand, Richard, Are you sure it went through?
- 1:38:17Speaker 2: Because the last one that went through was forty nine
- 1:38:19Speaker 2: minutes ago, so just double check to make sure it
- 1:38:21Speaker 2: went through, that you clicked pay or whatever it is.
- 1:38:28Speaker 2: Let me see what's going on in the chat proper
- 1:38:34Speaker 2: grammar is white coated. Oh so many things are white
- 1:38:37Speaker 2: coded mm hmm yeah, and then white coded. By white coded,
- 1:38:42Speaker 2: we mean man coded. Do you remember that list of
- 1:38:46Speaker 2: all the things that are white supremacy?
- 1:38:50Speaker 1: Uh? Yeah, No, it was the Smithsonian put out that list.
- 1:38:54Speaker 2: Yeah, and it was basically all anything you could code
- 1:38:57Speaker 2: as masculine. Yep, it was white coat white supremacy. Okay,
- 1:39:04Speaker 2: check for Richard's I.
- 1:39:07Speaker 1: Think I don't think I went through. We read it, Richard.
- 1:39:10Speaker 1: If you're talking about the last one.
- 1:39:12Speaker 2: The first one, we read it, yeah, both of them,
- 1:39:16Speaker 2: I think I think. Sorry, Richard, I don't see anything
- 1:39:19Speaker 2: on my end. Maybe maybe the voles are not just stuck,
- 1:39:23Speaker 2: they're dead. But there's not much we can do. Feed
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