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- 0:00Speaker 1: The Money Minute. On Anele and the Club.
- 0:04Speaker 2: On 947. And this Money Minute is brought to you
- 0:07Speaker 2: by Standard Bank Business and Commercial Banking.
- 0:09Speaker 1: Right here on 947.
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- 0:21Speaker 2: And our money lady, Zinati Koma, in studio.
- 0:23Speaker 1: Thank you so much. Yeah, good to be back.
- 0:25Speaker 2: Just quickly, what's your money lending policy for family?
- 0:28Speaker 3: For family, I only lend to my mom and my brother.
- 0:32Speaker 3: But it's that kind of lending where you know, we
- 0:34Speaker 3: all know it's a gift.
- 0:35Speaker 2: Okay.
- 0:36Speaker 3: So to the point where my mom doesn't even ask
- 0:38Speaker 3: to lend anymore.
- 0:39Speaker 1: She just tells me her problem. And she just waits
- 0:42Speaker 1: for me to say, okay, I'm sending. I'm sending. Yeah, literally.
- 0:46Speaker 1: I'm giving this to you.
- 0:48Speaker 2: So the entire country, money-wise, economy-wise, a bit.
- 0:51Speaker 1: Of a wobble.
- 0:52Speaker 2: The fact that the USA has cut... you know the
- 0:56Speaker 2: deal that we had with them AGOA what.
- 0:58Speaker 3: Does AGOA stand for the African Growth and Opportunity Act
- 1:02Speaker 3: okay so they've kicked out South Africa and Rwanda but
- 1:05Speaker 3: of course we're focusing now on South Africa and this
- 1:08Speaker 3: is a blow to South Africa or should I say
- 1:11Speaker 3: we're in the dwang we're in the.
- 1:12Speaker 1: Dwang Because the U.S.
- 1:15Speaker 3: Is South Africa's third biggest trading partner following the European
- 1:19Speaker 3: Union and China. And AGOA allowed over 1,800 products to
- 1:25Speaker 3: be sold that are made in South Africa.
- 1:27Speaker 1: To be sold to the U.S. tariff free.
- 1:30Speaker 3: This means that South African companies did not have to
- 1:33Speaker 3: pay the tax that companies usually have to pay to
- 1:36Speaker 3: have access to the U.S. to another market, right? And
- 1:40Speaker 3: these products come from important sectors in South Africa, such
- 1:42Speaker 3: as the automotive sector and the agricultural sector, particularly looking
- 1:46Speaker 3: at citrus and wine.
- 1:49Speaker 2: But.
- 1:50Speaker 1: As much as.
- 1:51Speaker 3: This is what we're looking at, we're not necessarily looking
- 1:53Speaker 3: at the implications on economic growth because that is expected
- 1:56Speaker 3: to be limited.
- 1:58Speaker 1: But what we are.
- 1:59Speaker 3: Looking at is the profit and job pressures that could
- 2:01Speaker 3: come from these specific industries. So how this now translates
- 2:07Speaker 3: to small businesses.
- 2:08Speaker 1: In South Africa, right, is that.
- 2:10Speaker 3: As a small business, you don't necessarily have to be
- 2:12Speaker 3: a direct exporter of those products to America.
- 2:16Speaker 1: But you supply the.
- 2:18Speaker 2: Bigger companies who supply to America.
- 2:21Speaker 1: Exactly.
- 2:21Speaker 3: For example, a big car company that makes cars in
- 2:24Speaker 3: South Africa, you could be a small business that's supplying
- 2:27Speaker 3: tires or batteries or any other products and services to
- 2:30Speaker 3: that company then that ends up exporting to America, right?
- 2:34Speaker 1: So now, because of the higher tax.
- 2:37Speaker 3: The companies then that export these products will have to
- 2:40Speaker 3: pay the higher tax, the tariff, because obviously we now
- 2:44Speaker 3: come from tariff-free. Now we have to pay these tariffs.
- 2:48Speaker 3: It's either these companies absorb those tariffs where they don't
- 2:52Speaker 3: have to increase their prices to the American consumers or
- 2:55Speaker 3: they actually have to pass those costs on to the
- 2:58Speaker 3: American consumer.
- 2:59Speaker 1: This makes us now less competitive.
- 3:02Speaker 3: So other companies from other countries that are under AGOA
- 3:06Speaker 3: now can sell their products cheaper to the American market.
- 3:11Speaker 1: This does not mean, though, that it is the end
- 3:13Speaker 1: of the world as much as it is a challenge.
- 3:17Speaker 3: South Africa has been expanding and diversifying its exports to
- 3:21Speaker 3: other countries outside of America because this has been a
- 3:25Speaker 3: difficulty for a long time. I do also note that
- 3:28Speaker 3: Standard Bank in that endeavor is a very important connector
- 3:31Speaker 3: because this week they sent 20 businesses across seven African
- 3:35Speaker 3: countries to China.
- 3:37Speaker 1: To meet up.
- 3:38Speaker 3: These are companies that export to China to connect them
- 3:41Speaker 3: with Chinese buyers. But there's also the opportunity for businesses
- 3:46Speaker 3: in South Africa to sell to other African countries on
- 3:49Speaker 3: the continent. So as much as there is this challenge,
- 3:52Speaker 3: there are also still opportunities that we can exploit.
- 3:54Speaker 1: I know I'm being dubious here, but can't we just.
- 3:57Speaker 2: Give our stuff to another country.
- 3:58Speaker 1: No, but that's what's happening. That's under the AGOA. And
- 4:01Speaker 1: then they do it. Just a double up. You know
- 4:05Speaker 1: what I'm saying? I see what you're saying. We're like
- 4:07Speaker 1: AO Kenya. We slip it through. Here we go. I'm
- 4:09Speaker 1: going to pose this to Box Tao. I really think so.
- 4:12Speaker 2: Because we still need to move our product.
- 4:15Speaker 1: Come on, guys. Oranges grown in South Africa assembled in Kenya.
- 4:19Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 4:21Speaker 1: What did Thabo Mbeki say? I am an African.
- 4:23Speaker 2: Exactly.
- 4:23Speaker 1: That better kick in right now.
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