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on the planet for sports betters. And yeah, we
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are officially in the offseason. Yeah, I don't
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know, I don't really know how to kick this one
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off. We're in a weird spot in the sports calendar.
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But we have we do have some things to talk about.
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But before we get into that, let me let me throw
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it to to Chris, how are you doing today? Doing
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good. Yeah, it's kind of that weird limbo. period
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where it's, it's summertime, you know, the birds
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are chirping and all that shit, but I don't care
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about that. I just want to bet on ball. Um, got
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a few good trend center bets going right now,
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uh, brewers up by four, um, Rangers kicking the
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shit out of the red Sox up six, nothing. So those
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are good. Um, shout out trend center. Hopefully
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those will hang on and I didn't just jinx the
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shit out of it, but yeah, nothing, not a whole
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lot to report from. from over on my neck of the
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woods. Yeah, just kind of rocking and just kind
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of rocking and rolling, you know. How are the
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fellas doing? Sean? Yeah, doing okay. I've been
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taking a bit of a sabbatical, I guess you could
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call it from betting. Baseball been kicking me
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in the ass. Not gonna lie to y 'all. Yeah, just
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We'll get back into it, but it has not been kind
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If you want to put it like that I guess But I'm
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just I'm just kind of ready to talk sports and
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what's going on around the the leagues With the
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boys, but will are you the same boat as me or
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are you in the same boat as Chris? More with
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you Sean. I've gotten two new jobs in the past
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couple of weeks so my mental bandwidth has been
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lacking on the sports side of it. I'll watch
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I've been watching some college not college hockey.
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I've been watching some NHL whenever I get the
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chance, but Things have been kind of crazy in
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my life, but that's okay crazy for the better
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and And yeah, so I mean let's just like hop right
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into it So the I mean, I guess the newest thing
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that sort of happened we can just we can discuss
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this at the end or Or or right now, but the the
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NHL draft lottery happened and Oh, we're talking
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about that right now. We're talking about there
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right now. Okay. Yeah, we're doing it so What
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what I was on the way home from work and I had
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to listen to it on the radio because well, I'm
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normally not the one paying attention to the
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NHL draft lottery, but Seeing as the Predators
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were absolute ass this year, I was like, huh,
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we have a pretty decent shot at the first overall
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pick. Predators third worst record in the league.
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And I think we had like an 11 and a half percent
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chance to get the first overall pick. We didn't.
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Not a backbreaker, though. Because this year's
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draft there's no real generational talent, so
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it's it's kind of okay like the the top four
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to five guys are all like Like nobody's mock
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draft is going to be correct like it might just
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be a Word this is a draft based on need Because
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like all the kind of guys are sort of like neck
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-and -neck at their perspective positions but
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so it's it's okay you know kind of bummed out
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we had the third worst record but ended up with
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the fifth pick I guess I mean I'll get into it
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so I was listening to her on the radio and what
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ended up happening was you know I I mean I was
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mentally just like all right if we stay at three
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then it's fine you know it's fine And even if
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we drop down to five, not great, but it's fine.
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So. What ended up happening was, I don't know,
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this is one of the biggest jumps in perhaps draft
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lottery history, not just NHL, but NBA as well,
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because they have a draft lottery. But the Islanders
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with the 10th worst record in the league jumped
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up to number one, which they could you can only.
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in the nhl draft you can only jump up nine spots
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um and then you can't jump up 10 so they went
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from 10 to 1 and they ended up winning the draft
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lottery and you know a lot of people don't like
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the draft lottery which is fine um i kind of
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like it because it's just another way to make
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each sport kind of different um and it's uh You
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know, the NHL draft is more of a crapshoot than
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most other drafts, I would say, just because,
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you know, most players take, you know, two, three,
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four, five, sometimes six years in order to fully
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develop. It just kind of depends. So it's okay,
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you know. That's my sort of mentality. Do I wish
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that didn't happen? Yes. And I was listening
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to all the rate when I was listening to it on
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the radio and they announced the islanders had
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the first pick so I was like, okay More than
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likely we're going we're we're not well, we're
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pretty much guaranteed not to get the third pick
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Just because of where we finished but then when
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they were pulling the numbers for the second
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pick overall The combination that came up was
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the Utah Hockey Club, but They had the 14th,
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uh worst record and they could only go up nine
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spots So they went up to nine not nine. They
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went up to uh, four four. Yeah, right. So That
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kind of pretty much It didn't really cement us
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in the five spot because they still did a a lottery
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for the the second and third but it essentially
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guaranteed us that we would not be where we Were
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slotted to be so that we that we would either
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stay the same or move down yes move down either
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or we're picking three or five and You know for
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a draft lottery, you know, it's still kind of
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still pretty good and you know, they were talking
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on the radio about you know you don't You like
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the draft lottery because it kind of forces teams
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not to tank because I mean shit like like yesterday
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happened like you have an Islanders team that
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you know they weren't almost they didn't almost
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make the playoffs but they didn't they weren't
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good but they they I mean they get they went
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against the odds and uh and got the first overall
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pick so uh hope to be them one day but but yeah
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Sean do you have anything to add well I was just
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uh gonna put this into perspective for more,
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like, NFL fans. Like, imagine if the Bears, who
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were slotted at 10 for this year's NFL draft,
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moved up to the first overall pick. That's essentially
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what happened with the New York Islanders. And
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then the Indianapolis Colts, who are the Utah
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Jazz moved up to fourth. Like both of those teams
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moved up nine slots. But they moved they really
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moved up like 10 positions, but they moved up
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nine slots. You know what I'm saying? Like, yes.
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So the San Jose Sharks are the Tennessee Titans.
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They finished last in the league and they moved
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down a spot. At the second overall pick and the
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God the I guess where the Giants of the league
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third overall like Like if if like the NHL was
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I think Giants Giants picked third, I think Giants
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pick third. Okay, so the Giants would have moved
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down to fifth for the Nashville Predators Just
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putting it in perspective Yeah for people but
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like I was hearing them when I was hearing them
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talk on the radio. It was like You know, I've
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never I've never really watched the the NHL draft
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lottery. I've never been Interested. Well, actually
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that kovat year when they did the bubble we were
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like we had like a 3 % chance to get the first
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overall pick because we were knocked out of the
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Play in tight, but also so did 16 other teams
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Or 10 other teams or something or like some double
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digit number like so they had to do a separate
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lottery For the first overall pick That bubble
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year. Yeah, because like, you know the the season
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was fucked up. Yeah and that draft was fucked
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up yeah and the the rangers who barely missed
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the playoff scott the first overall pick um and
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they got alexi lafreniere so but uh but yeah
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whatever that's um that's kind of the uh the
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the skinny i don't know do you have anything
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to say chris or or nah or i mean operators are
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cursed but i mean that's just a given because
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We root for him, so nothing good will ever happen
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to him. Probably the San Jose Sharks. I feel
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like they've just been at the bottom of like
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they've been getting a top three pick for the
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last five years. It feels like. Are they going
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to be a wagon? Soon. They should be a wagon soon.
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I mean, here's five years from now they'll be
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a wagon. See, yeah, that's what I because I feel
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like every time. Like, like I said, like the
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draft lottery rolls around, the sharks are always
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right there towards the top. And I'm like, I
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wish I could take a feature out on the sharks
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just to win a cup in the next five to six, seven
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years. Cause I don't know. I feel like that'd
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be, that'd be worth holding onto, holding onto
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a ticket for it. I don't know. I just, it feels
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like every year I hear, I may not every year,
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but for a while now I've heard about, Oh, they
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got this young kid who's like tearing it up either
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in college or some. junior hockey or junior level.
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And I'm like, shit, they're going to be pretty
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good soon, but I mean, they, they were still
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the third worst team in the league this year.
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So maybe not, but I don't know. I just feel like
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that's just what caught my eyes. The sharks again
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are getting a top three, five pick. Well, that's
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Smith. Yeah. What's he doing these days? Is he,
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is he good? He is good. Hopefully switch that
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pregame song. That's weak. I stand by that. That's
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some white boy. That is some white boy shit.
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It's not even a good white boy hype up song.
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It isn't. I stand by my original take. That's
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like the, that is, that is the ultimate white
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boy shit. Yeah. I weak ass song, but I mean,
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Yeah, that's just what caught my eye with other
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than that the Preds are cursed so Correct. I
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it's kind of like until this year Sit when Ottawa
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made the playoffs. I mean like they were they
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were picking top top five picks for a long time
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and they finally made the playoffs and Of course
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they lost but you know, this is the first time
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they made the playoffs and since 2017 so or 2018
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something like it somewhere I Think it was 17
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wasn't that was when we almost played them in
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the cup final. Yeah. Yeah and And so like they
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hadn't made the playoffs since then so it I Had
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been kind of saying that the the Senators would
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be good eventually, you know Exactly what you're
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saying like, you know, this team will be good
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in five years It took a little bit longer, but
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it seems that it finally happening. But I do
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think objectively that the sharks are in a better
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spot because we made that trade with them to
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get Askarov. So it's like now they have the goalie
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of the future. You know, it's they have something
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they have the most important position kind of
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locked down for the future. You know, I don't
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know if he's allegedly. It may not work out.
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you know um so be it he he didn't want to be
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a uh backup in the nhl or he didn't want to be
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sitting down and then we traded him and then
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immediately got sent down so yeah i think he
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was a he ended up becoming just a backup this
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year he signed a two million dollar deal and
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then got sent down like early in the season and
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then didn't really hear from him Throughout the
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whole season Yeah, I think he ended up becoming
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the backup, okay, I think I'm not totally sure
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but But yeah, you know the it seems like they're
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kind of in a in a better spot and I mean the
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like Ottawa never Had the first overall pick,
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you know, they they never got a player like Macklin
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celebrini They got some decent players, but not
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a Hobie Baker winner. But yeah, I mean, that's
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kind of it. But I am also glad that Chicago dropped
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a spot, at least, because fuck them. That's why.
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Yeah, that's all you need. Yeah, that's worth
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more than than us picking above, I mean, five,
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I guess, whatever. But yeah, I mean, that's that's
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kind of the the newest thing on the radar. But
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when I was listening to it on the radio, like
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it just seemed like the the whole process of
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them. Take picking the the lottery ball numbers,
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I'm like, this sounds really confusing because
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like they they do four drawings uh for the first
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pick and then like depending on what combination
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of numbers they are that that that uh that team
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gets it but like if it was a team higher than
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the islanders then they would have moved up nine
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spots or yeah so Okay, see, that's also what
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I was wondering was like, how does the lottery
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work? Because I could be very wrong on this.
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But I believe in the NBA, it's like, the lower
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you finish, it's like you get a certain amount
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of balls in the raffle machine, which the fact
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that they decide, like, the future of a franchise
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on that, it's insane. But I love it so much.
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It's awesome. Oh, yeah, it's incredible. It's
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awesome. It's like you're a common man waiting
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for your lottery numbers to be selected by this
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random machine built of ping pong balls and air.
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That's all it is. But you're like, I could get
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the first overall pick. This could change our
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franchise. Let's go. It's such a gambling aspect.
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I do love it. So oh, yeah, no or it I just didn't
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know like does the NHL have the same system where
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it's like whoever finished last gets Yeah, let's
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say 10. Okay, okay I didn't know they did this
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whole combination thing and maybe the NBA does
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too I've only watched the draft lottery in the
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NBA like once or twice ever so yeah I still remember
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the New York Islanders logo coming up on this
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ping -pong ball during like they're during the
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bubble year The draft like where that was the
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Rangers? What'd I say? I'm sorry. I've got this
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year's pick on my brain The Rangers ball coming
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up on the first overall during the bubble Yeah,
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you know that was like that But now it's like
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like like the Sharks percentage to win the first
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overall pick was higher than everyone else's
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but it was 18 and a half percent so and then
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like Chicago's was like 15 and Nashville's was
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11 and a half so like I'm not quite sure how
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they factor in the half percents But but yeah,
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so Going into it I think we had a 30 30 % chance
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from to move up Two spots, but we had a 70 %
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chance to move down Up to two spots. Damn. I
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don't like those numbers. Yeah so But yeah that
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was and it's like such a weird spot but again,
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I mean this year's draft lottery is this year's
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draft class is a It's it's like the top five
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ish players are all kind of interchangeable At
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least that's what it seems like right now and
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you know it there's like a great defenseman Matthew
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Schaeffer who is A great fucking player. I saw
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some highlights of him, and I'm like this guy's
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great and then Next guy's Michael Mesa. I think
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he's a Think he's a winger. He might be a center.
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He's a forward But he's I'm like this guy's pretty
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good as well. You know there but like you can't
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there's not really a I don't know kind of a a
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differentiating sort of generational talent type
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Factor when you just like look at him although.
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I'm not an NHL scout whatever so but next year's
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draft Gavin McKenna will be the first overall
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pick and he is a generational player. So Bred's
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might be bad again You know what that's that
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that's okay, you know if we if we can get Gavin
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McKenna everything changes Everything changes.
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Yeah, that'd be sick All right, so Moving on
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what else? But like we could talk about hockey
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we could talk about NBA Okay, what do you want
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Chris? This kind of covers both. It's been choke
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city in both playoffs the last few days. We've
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seen a few monumental collapses. And I love it.
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That abs collapse was beautiful. Yeah, that was
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fantastic. I was like, whoa, not good for my
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pick. Not good for, yeah. But whatever. I mean,
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yeah, we had that the Celtics blew a 20 point
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lead in the third quarter on Monday to the Knicks
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lost in overtime. Was that a game seven? No,
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it's game one. But I mean, just in terms of yet,
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not all of them are like the series is over.
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But I mean, one that was I mean, the Blues just.
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That was up by two minutes left. Yeah, that was
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awesome. That was I mean Winnipeg such a tough
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place to play in the playoffs like it's awful
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and I didn't I didn't watch the the overtime
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goal I went to bed, but I saw it afterwards and
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I'm like damn That's that's fucking crazy But
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I did see them tie it up Well, I get two goals
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in the last three minutes and I'm like this is
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this is peak. I would say that's, that's peak
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playoff hockey. And I saw a video of some blues
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fan. It was like, by his TV being like, something
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good is finally gonna happen to me. I'm so excited.
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And then he was counting down, he was like, six,
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five, and I was like, oh, there you score two
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seconds left. So I was waiting for it. And then
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he was like, he had like a meltdown. And then
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the person was recording was furious to and that
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just cut off. I was like, damn. I want to know
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what happened in that household. Did they get
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in a fight? So I saw a stat from the NHL that
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said that there have only been two third period
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multi -combat games in game sevens, and they
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both happened within 24 hours. Wow. That's pretty
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fucking insane. Like go we are We are kind of
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in the prime of NHL Like to be out we are in
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the golden age of the NHL right now Yeah, and
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feels like people have to realize that like hockey
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is going to be a I mean it grows every year but
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People have to actually realize that This is
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a very hot take. The NHL playoffs. Are better
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than the NBA playoffs and they play at the exact
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same time. I don't think that's a hot take at
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all. I don't. I think it is. I think I think
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to the populace it is. Between us it's not, but
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to the populace I think it is a very hot take.
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I think to real ball knowers and puck is ball
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real ball knowers know the NHL playoffs are vastly
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superior. Because the NBA playoffs I mean just
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look at the last This entire first round other
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than the Clippers other than the Clippers nuggets
25:16
But then but then you but then you have a day
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where all the underdogs of like like weren't
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weren't all the underdogs last night like plus
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300 or something to win and they all won like
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it's like some shit like that it's like And it's
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like okay. Well You bought yourself another week,
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I guess, like, yeah, I would say maybe game by
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game. Even that, I don't know if it's drugs,
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the game by game. Maybe the NBA might, might
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have like a slight edge, but even there, I don't
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know if that's true. But as like just round by
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round, I mean, you see far more upsets and hockey
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and just more entertaining series overall. I,
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I mean, I've had this argument since like high
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school. And I remember having this argument with
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this, this girl in high school that was a huge
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NBA fan. And I was just like to NHL playoffs,
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superior to the NBA. And she was like, no way.
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And I was like, you're out of your fucking mind,
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but, um, whatever. Just a dumb boy who's never
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watched hockey before. She knew, she knew, she
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knew, uh, basketball for sure. I will say that
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she did. Uh, but I can't speak on the NHL. So,
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but I, that is a personal opinion. Uh, I won't
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solidify that as fact, but I do, I do think that
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is a hot take for the populace of America. I
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think it's fact. It's vastly mourned. People
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who watch both. or have experience watching both
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know that they they all know that the NHL playoffs
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is better because i mean like yeah you know the
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points if you if you if you grabbed a boston
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fan right now well obviously i get oh the brooms
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aren't in the playoffs but if you grabbed a boston
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fan and you said what is better NBA playoffs
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or NHL playoffs Bruins, Celtics, which one are
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you going to? I got tickets to both. Which one
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are they going to? I mean, it's Celtics, 100
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times out of 100. Yeah. I mean, like, if you
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have a city that has both like that and has such
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a rich history, like with both franchises, the
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Bruins are an original six team. Celtics have
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a Obviously, rich fucking history. I mean, don't
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they have the all time? That's title championships.
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Yeah. They're taking the Celtics every fucking
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time. So I for that reason, I think it is a hot
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take. But what happened, Chris? Hurricanes just
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scored to. Okay. Another, um, choke job that
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it happened last week. We didn't talk about it,
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um, on last week's pod because we were on a time
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crunch. Uh, the Pacers, um, bounce the bucks
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from the playoffs and just miraculous fashion.
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Uh, the bucks were up by seven with 40 seconds
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to go and overtime in game six and the Pacers
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won. Incredible. My dad sent me a text after
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the game. He said, before tonight, teams trailing
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by seven or more in the final 40 seconds over
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the last 20 years were 0 and 1176 in the playoffs.
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Yeah. Well, we'll see people, NBA, NBA fans will
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throw that stat at you and be like, you know
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what I mean? Like, but you're right. I am right.
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It was like this is why the NBA is better, but
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whatever I think we do need to go over LeBron's
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legacy Okay, and It's a it's a Lakers legacy
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because You know what it hasn't been good I Mean,
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oh, it's been it's been pretty fucking awful.
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It's been bad so In 2019, when he arrived, missed
29:55
the playoffs. 2020, Asterix Championship. Bubble.
30:01
Mickey Mouse. Yeah. 2021, eliminated in first
30:06
round. 2022, missed playoffs. 2023, swept in
30:10
Western Conference Finals. 2024, eliminated in
30:14
first round. 2025, eliminated in first round.
30:21
That's not good. One would argue it's bad. I'll
30:26
just say it. It's, it's, it's not good. Nope.
30:30
And I mean, Hey, you can't get mad at him this
30:34
year. I mean, he had a sprained MCL in the final
30:38
eight minutes of the game. Um, yeah, we didn't
30:41
miss the Met Gala dude because he had to miss
30:44
the Met Gala, didn't miss the final eight minutes
30:46
of that game, but he missed the Met Gala. Did
30:50
he really have a sprained MCO? I don't believe
30:53
it. I think it's, I think it's a work. I think
30:57
it's just another one of his things to be like,
30:59
well, hey guys, I was hurt. So, I mean, can't
31:04
really blame us for losing. I mean, they have,
31:07
he's like, he can't take all the blame now. No,
31:10
but I mean, that was just, that was prime LeBron
31:12
or excuse LeBron. Like just when you think he
31:16
doesn't have anymore, he puts one. hundred miles
31:19
an hour right on the black like he he's still
31:21
got it lebron what's your favorite quote in that
31:26
malcolm x book uh you know i just i didn't make
31:30
it that's the first page no i i his real quote
31:34
was like no i just uh i like all of it bro has
31:43
been stuck on the first page forever If we want
31:47
to talk about LeBron legacy, I mean, that might
31:50
be his real legacy. I think he's still in his
31:52
prime when it comes to that. About lying about
31:56
shit. About just making shit up so he doesn't
31:59
look as bad. He's an alcoholic. That's true.
32:09
Allegedly. Well, he was drinking going into like...
32:13
He was carrying an open container going into
32:15
work. Multiple times. When was this? I forget
32:21
what year, but yeah, he would come when he was
32:23
hurt. He would like come to games with like just
32:26
a glass of wine. Well, he was hurt. Come on,
32:29
you tell me you wouldn't do the same thing. Yeah,
32:31
and then I would get fired if I had walked into
32:34
my place of business with a glass of wine. I
32:40
don't okay like a glass like an actual glass.
32:43
Yeah Yeah, do you not remember that? I don't
32:47
remember. I never heard of that not like a not
32:51
like in like a like a Stanley or Like a coffee
32:55
cup or yeah, like that's that's odd to not hide
32:58
it like a water bottle if you're If you're a
33:02
true alcoholic you would hide That stuff I think
33:09
Like especially if you're as famous as LeBron
33:12
James like you're the all -time leader and points
33:15
like you would kind of hide those things in a
33:20
a thermos of some kind I think Sending a picture
33:25
to the group chat. Am I wrong? I'm sure they
33:33
make they still make sure I haven't seen a thermos
33:37
since since 2003. Who is this guy? Well, Chris,
33:46
this could be anything. It could be anything.
33:52
He was hurt. You're saying he's hurt the caption.
33:55
Hold on the caption of this. The Braun James
33:57
brings glass of wine to Lakers Clippers game.
34:00
OK, well, that was when he was hurt, but still.
34:06
Like it's still your job man. So like this this
34:10
photo is him walking out of his car or out of
34:14
his ride into the facility Into the locker room
34:19
like he is he is showing up to the game. I Send
34:23
another one of him on he's got a bottle with
34:26
a he's got a lot of his seat. Yeah That's not
34:31
a good look That's kind of a low key alcoholic
34:37
move. That is a low key. To drink at work? Yeah,
34:42
that's pretty high key. That's one of the top
34:45
few signs of like, hey, is your alcohol dependency
34:49
affecting your job? I think I would respect him
34:54
more if he had it in like a thermos or a... I
35:00
mean, that was more of just probably like a fuck
35:01
you move, honestly. Like, hey, what are you gonna
35:03
do? I'm Lebron James. I drink at work. Honestly,
35:13
goals. I mean, yeah, I mean, like, are we really
35:18
are we really about to ostracize this guy for
35:21
like having the ability to drink at work? Like,
35:24
are we about to do that? Because I'm going to
35:26
be really upset if we're about to do that. I'm
35:28
not going to sit here and pretend that I wouldn't
35:30
trade places with the bra. Lebron in a fucking
35:32
second. If I wasn't given the opportunity, what
35:35
I'm saying, like we can't really, we can't really
35:39
knock this guy for doing this because he is hurt.
35:43
He's trying to have a good time. He is just enjoying
35:48
a glass of carb or a cab. Excuse me. Uh, and
35:53
he's just trying to watch his bro's ball out.
35:56
Like, I mean, I'm not a Lebron Dick rider, but
35:59
I will. I will defend him on this. I will actually
36:05
like kind of go to kind of go to war for this.
36:08
Like still this is not. It's not a big deal.
36:13
Still work for him, like even if he's not playing,
36:16
what do you do? You still have a role on the
36:19
team like you still have to like, I don't know,
36:22
like when that's that's like a whole thing like
36:24
when he's sitting on the sideline in street clothes,
36:26
that's like a whole thing when like a team leader
36:28
is hurt. they're still supposed to be like a,
36:31
like a focal point of the team. You're still
36:33
supposed to be like part of like the huddle and
36:35
shit and like help guys out. I remember. Okay.
36:40
Hold on. No, no, no. Hold on. I gotta, I gotta
36:43
do this quick first. We're about to run out of
36:45
time on our thing. You're telling me that one
36:49
of your friends have never come up to you plaster
36:52
and just given you the best advice you've ever
36:55
been given. About what you're doing or like how
37:00
the fuck you should be doing it You're telling
37:03
me that they alcohol up LeBron wouldn't be like
37:07
Yo, you got to get that shit to the fucking net
37:10
bro. Like you you know what I mean? Like You
37:13
know a little tipsy LeBron like just fucking
37:16
I Mean, I'm not sitting like I'm not saying he
37:21
didn't do a good job of that, but I'm saying
37:23
it's also like It's your job. Look, it's not
37:28
a good. It's not a good. It's not a good example
37:31
of yourself. He's also a role model. He is a
37:34
role model. Yes, I will give you that. But also.
37:41
You don't think he gave those guys like some
37:43
drive like you've never given. You've never heard
37:46
like a drunken pep talk from anybody. I have
37:50
to go back and look at the box score of that
37:51
game to see, OK? We do need to look into that.
37:56
If he was in the huddle, like really hyped the
37:58
boys up. I mean, that was years ago. I don't
38:00
remember for sure. But if he was more power to
38:03
him, I'll take back what I said. But if not.
38:06
That's what I'm saying. That's all I'm saying.
38:09
I'm just saying like Lebron, like, you know,
38:13
a little liquored up. Could be like the ultimate
38:17
hype man. Like, I mean, he probably is. Don't
38:21
get me wrong. Like, I think like, yeah. Lickered
38:25
up LeBron would probably be in a social setting
38:28
an excellent hype man sure Yeah, maybe a game
38:34
of pickup basketball Is that be funk that be
38:39
fun? That would be fun All right moving on from
38:43
LeBron James and his legacy I mean, did you did
38:49
you want to yell more about that Sean? No, I
38:52
mean, I think we I think we covered everything
38:55
I guess but It sounded like you wanted to yell
39:00
a little bit more. No, it's just Lebron on the
39:03
Lakers has sucked He hasn't he hasn't produced
39:09
at all like yeah, you have an asterix championship,
39:13
sorry Lakers fans, but You do have an asterix
39:18
championship There's a Good chance. The Lakers
39:24
era. LeBron is done. Cause he's got a player.
39:28
He's got a player option for this year. But I
39:30
mean, who knows if he's gonna take that. I mean,
39:34
Luca. Oh, I'm not saying the team isn't good
39:38
enough, but like, he just kind of does whatever
39:41
he wants. So like if he wants to end his career
39:44
back in Cleveland, like who's going to stop him.
39:47
He, if he like the tweet that uh shams or shams
39:51
excuse me had um was that he wants to play for
39:54
at least another year because he has another
39:56
kid coming up stop me if you've heard this before
39:59
and another one 26 draft i believe who's actually
40:03
i believe supposed to be like qualified to play
40:06
professional basketball so he might want to go
40:10
where like i don't know what he's gonna i mean
40:12
nobody knows what he's gonna do but he could
40:15
fuck off and go somewhere else like after this
40:19
season. And I think that's a decent chance. Just
40:22
given his track record of like, I don't really
40:23
want to be here anymore. I'm like, that's, that's
40:27
Bryce. Yeah. Bryce James, I believe. Yeah. And
40:32
he's supposed to be like really good. And I'm
40:34
not like shitting on Brawny. I know he's had
40:35
like health issues and whatever, but he had a
40:39
heart attack on the court, Chris, but I was saying
40:42
like, it's long been like, I don't want to say
40:44
long, but it's been established as Bryce is like
40:46
the better basketball player. Yeah. But maybe
40:51
he wants to play with his other kid. You got
40:53
to get in with the first born, though. I mean,
40:58
but see, what does this do for Brawny if LeBron
41:01
leaves L .A.? Who cares? Well, I mean, I don't
41:05
care. I don't give a shit. But that would be
41:08
like it would be hilarious if like Brian's like,
41:11
I'm going to go back to Cleveland and Brian either.
41:14
A gets traded to Cleveland or B is just like,
41:17
just immediately cut. That would be low -key
41:23
hilarious. Like if it's like Chomps tweets, LeBron
41:28
signing whatever deal with the Cavaliers. The
41:31
next tweet, the Lakers are parting ways with
41:34
Brian James. Not trading, just cut. You're gone,
41:40
bro. See ya. No. That. I mean, I just think the
41:46
LeBron's LeBron's stint in L .A. is not what
41:52
they wanted it to be. You know, I and. Didn't
41:58
he win that championship like after Kobe died,
42:01
too? Like it was almost like it was almost fixed.
42:06
It was almost fixed to be like the Lakers should
42:10
win. I don't. Tin foil hat obviously. I mean
42:14
he died in 20 20 19. Was it 19 or no? No, it
42:19
was it was 20. It was February. It was early
42:22
20. Yes February. Yeah. So yeah, that was the
42:26
first championship because that was like September
42:28
or whatever of 20 when they won Or when they
42:31
did the bubble. So yeah Yeah No, it was that
42:36
year. No, that's what I'm saying. I mean if he
42:39
died in February of 20 That was the next champ
42:42
that was the next NBA finals was yeah, but it
42:46
was But that was when the pandemic was happening
42:50
so like that was like Wasn't that like almost
42:54
like the all -star break? I Mean of when the
42:59
pandemic like happened and they were like they
43:01
had to like all these the NHL and the MLB in
43:05
the NBA like had to shift into this like bubble
43:10
territory. That's why like all the, weren't there
43:14
like 20 NHL teams that like got into the bubble?
43:18
Yeah. Yeah. And they re I think there were also
43:21
like 20 NBA teams and then the Lakers ended up,
43:25
you know, winning the whole thing. Yeah. I don't
43:29
remember. I'm just going to be, I know it was
43:32
so long ago. The Lakers won the next title, but
43:38
I don't remember exactly how the bubble format
43:41
began, like what the initial field was. If it
43:47
was like the NHL where it was like, it was like
43:50
a play in to the playoffs. If it was just like,
43:53
no, no, fuck it. This is the playoffs. Yeah.
43:56
Yeah. I mean, Kobe died and then the Lakers won
43:58
the championship. Yes. That's how it happened.
44:02
Yes. That is how it happened. So Sean's saying
44:06
it was rigged. A little bit. Just a little tinfoil
44:10
hat. I mean, the NBA's never been rigged for
44:13
the Lakers, ever. No, but like, also... Not once.
44:18
What else have they done since then? They've
44:21
been dogshit! That's what I'm saying. Like, in...
44:27
I don't know. And they've got the best... player
44:31
in the league apparently or the best of all time
44:34
and it nothing to show for it like that's why
44:42
i put an asterisk on like you should always put
44:45
didn't the dallas stars win that the bubble that
44:49
year that was the lightning there's a lightning
44:51
that was the lightning that was their first of
44:53
their three p wasn't it or the second i i think
44:58
it was there I thought it was their second, because
45:04
I thought they won one before that one. It might
45:06
be their second. And then the other, like, you
45:10
could technically put an asterisk on that one
45:12
because the conferences were all fucked up. They
45:17
won one legit. Yes, they did. But that's another
45:21
thing. They won two legit. Right? I thought,
45:26
well, I guess we could just look at that. Yeah,
45:28
we just looked this up. Think they I think the
45:31
other one the year that the conferences were
45:33
all fucked up Which that I mean it was them in
45:39
the stars, right? In the bubble. Yes, and then
45:42
they won Or was it the stars I thought it was
45:48
the stars in the Canadians in the final the Canadian
45:50
the Canadians were involved in some way because
45:53
it was like How the hell is this here? Yeah that
45:59
was the year where the conferences were fucked
46:02
up because the Canadians, the Canadians conference,
46:07
it was all the Canadian teams. Okay. That's who
46:10
they played in the playoffs. Okay. Okay. Okay.
46:12
They beat all the Canadian teams to, you know,
46:17
make it to the final and Tampa beat every, everyone
46:21
they had to beat. And it was, I remember it.
46:25
So Tampa only won two. Yeah. Okay. They won 1920
46:30
and 2021, and they went to the final in 21 -22.
46:36
Yeah, they went to three straight finals. And
46:38
two of them appeared to have. So 2019 -20, that's
46:45
bubble, correct? Yes. They lost to the Stars
46:49
then? No, they won that one. The stars didn't
46:52
win a Stanley Cup. I remember the stars in the
46:57
Stanley Cup final for some fucking reason because
46:59
they were in the Stanley Cup final. Okay. They
47:02
didn't win. They didn't win. Okay. Good. Okay.
47:07
So it goes, according to Wikipedia, the lightning
47:11
cups is 2019 20 and that's cope. That's bubble.
47:14
I believe. Correct. That was the bubble. Yes.
47:16
And then they won it again in 2021, which is
47:19
when the conferences were jumbled, which they
47:23
did. But they ended up playing everyone. Yeah,
47:27
but oh, I'm not saying it. Yeah, like they played
47:30
everyone had to play in like a normal format,
47:32
but also like if the conferences were normal,
47:35
who knows? Would you say that one is more legit?
47:40
I'd say that one's more legit. It's not 100 %
47:43
legit, but it's definitely I would say it's half
47:46
to possibly a quarter asterisk if you're going
47:48
to put an asterisk at all. Half asterisks. Half
47:52
asterisks. Or a quarter asterisks. See, this
47:54
is what we're doing. This is what no football
47:56
does. We're just using the legitimacy of the
48:01
Lightning's Stanley Cups. Yeah. Are we done with
48:09
LeBron's legacy? Or not? Yeah, I guess. Or did
48:13
you have anything to add, Chris? No, I'm done
48:17
with it. I have no further comment for LeBron
48:20
James. Okay. It seems like Sean's a little sad,
48:24
but I think it's time to move on. I do have something
48:27
I want to move on to, though. Oh, what is it?
48:30
Okay, what is it? You go first, Sean. I was just
48:35
wondering if y 'all heard about the enhanced
48:38
games that's supposedly supposed to start this
48:43
year. Oh, the steroid Olympics? Yeah. I thought
48:46
that was a bit. No. I did too if I'm being honest.
48:53
Some comedian did that bit. It's founded by some
48:59
Australian businessman that just wants to use
49:04
athletes that use performance enhancing substances
49:09
throughout the entire multi -sport event. So
49:18
so I I I want to say right now that is a hilarious
49:27
idea that I am here for that being said Something
49:34
bad is going to happen Someone will get a heart
49:38
attack either during before or like right after
49:43
their event Maybe even just leading up to the
49:49
day of the event. Someone's just gonna have a
49:51
heart attack. That's what's gonna happen, more
49:53
likely. And then it'll be canned. But yeah, right
50:00
now, not an issue. I have some questions. Is
50:04
this televised? It is yet to be determined. I
50:10
don't see any type of sponsorship. from ABC,
50:15
NBC, CBS box. Don't see any of that. I don't
50:19
know if any of those are going, are going to
50:21
get them. I was thinking maybe, man, I wish spike
50:24
TV was like TV. I was just about to say like
50:26
spike TV. Um, I mean, yeah, if it's somewhere
50:31
where my, my device won't get a deadly virus
50:35
from watching it, I'll check it out. Can we,
50:38
if can we bet on it is the, what's my second
50:42
question? Well, probably not. Well, it hasn't
50:47
been like determined yet if this is taking place
50:51
because it says it is it is meant to take place
50:56
in 2025 or 2026. So either this year or next
51:02
year. But do you guys support this type of athleticism?
51:12
Because I do yes. Yes. No. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. Yes
51:16
and no I think I think me and will be awesome
51:19
boat where yes, it would be incredibly entertaining
51:22
and it's hilarious just at its core and It's
51:26
it's interesting to see What? Like, you know
51:30
with with all the enhancements what the human
51:34
body is capable of Like that part is you know,
51:39
that's that part's low -key fascinating to me.
51:43
Yeah, like take away like the the the ridiculousness
51:47
of it all. That is legitimate. I kind of want
51:50
to see how exactly Yeah, what world what I mean,
51:54
obviously, these won't be legitimate records,
51:56
if someone does anything, but like, how much
51:59
they would just shatter a world record on steroids.
52:03
I Yeah, sorry. No, I was good. That being said,
52:06
someone will probably die. Yeah, someone's gonna
52:10
die. Like someone's nuts. Relax, guys. It's not
52:16
like they're fucking shooting up like. I don't
52:20
know, like I don't think it's the best. I don't
52:23
know how it works either, but I don't think any
52:25
when I read this, I'm like someone's going to
52:28
die. That's not my first instinct. I'm like,
52:31
oh, it's just some fucking super soldiers just
52:34
going out there, just fucking. Chuckling chucking
52:38
javelins like that sounds awesome like it it
52:42
does sound awesome until like some Like Eastern
52:46
European guy is like oh shit like I need I have
52:50
to win this thing I'm gonna shoot up like right
52:53
before we go out there and he has a heart attack
52:55
when he's doing like a 10 ,000 pound deadlift
52:59
Yeah, like like I think what I heard some bodybuilder
53:07
say this one time, but he was like dude like
53:12
bodybuilders who are like three 300 pounds like
53:17
just massive dudes like You are still 300 pounds
53:23
Your your risk for a heart attack is still highly
53:29
highly increased like fat or muscle Doesn't matter
53:34
you you are at such a higher risk than everyone
53:37
else at a normal weight. So I mean that in itself,
53:43
gonna have a heart attack. Yeah, but yeah, the
53:46
dying part. That's not my, my third first thought.
53:49
That's like my maybe third or fourth thought.
53:54
First thought being like, well, that's crazy.
53:56
It's interesting, because you said someone's
53:58
gonna die as like your first thought. Yeah, because
54:04
I've thought that was literally the first thing
54:06
out of your mouth was like someone's gonna die.
54:10
I've thought about this before because I well,
54:12
I mean, I thought it was just like some comedians
54:15
bit about about this whole thing. But now that
54:18
it's legit, you know, I've already sort of processed.
54:22
It's not legit. Like, it's it's in talk. I want
54:27
it to be legit, because that'd be fucking awesome.
54:30
It'd be crazy. It'd be very entertaining. I would
54:32
watch because well like you have to think also
54:35
that these These people are athletes Like after
54:40
core like they do not want to die They don't
54:47
want to die like they don't want to die doing
54:51
what they love They probably die trying if they
54:57
I mean, maybe, but that's not their goal. They're
55:04
not going to shoot up more than they have to.
55:10
They're going to have medical doctors and physicians
55:15
around them taking care. Hopefully. Hopefully.
55:20
If you're a serious athlete, you would have those
55:24
type of people around you. To get the proper
55:29
doses that you need to perform at your maximum
55:32
strength on these perform enhancing drugs I Would
55:36
know that's that's my thought I mean no doctor
55:38
would recommend performance enhancing drugs But
55:43
if you were to do it though, but if you were
55:46
to do it you would have And it's just like okay
55:51
you can take this much like yeah from an alley,
55:55
okay Jesus fucking Christ. I would say that,
56:00
um, if you're a legit, I think y 'all are bromance
56:02
out of proportion. All right. I'm, I'm not saying
56:05
like it's okay. I was more just being tugging
56:09
cheek. If someone, God forbid, if someone were
56:13
to keel over, I'm not saying it's going to happen
56:15
during an event before or after. If this event
56:20
does take place, I would not be shocked whatsoever.
56:23
is mainly what I'm saying. I don't, I'm not rooting
56:27
for it by any stretch. I'm not even saying I
56:30
think it will happen. I'm just saying if it does,
56:33
I'm not going to be like, Oh my God, how could
56:35
this happen? Someone who's probably been doing
56:37
steroids for a while. If we're being honest,
56:39
if you're in this, like, let's be honest, this
56:42
is the steroid Olympics. If you're in this, you've
56:47
been doing, you've been juicing for a while.
56:49
Yeah, sure. So I'm just saying this could be
56:54
the thing that maybe pushes your body over the
56:57
edge. Exactly. That's, that's my mentality as
57:02
well. I think it could, but I think it'd be extremely
57:05
unlikely. Yeah. Like again, I don't, I'm not
57:08
saying like it will happen and it probably wouldn't
57:11
even happen, but if it were to happen, I would
57:14
just, I think, yeah. I think it'd be, I think
57:17
it'd be more up to the lead up. like, you know,
57:20
like the in the training process, like, oh, this,
57:24
this person, this person died leading up into
57:28
the enhanced Olympics, you know, like, I think
57:31
it'd be more like, like some guy who's lifting
57:34
could that have been some guy who's dead, some
57:37
guy who's dead lifting 900 pounds is just like
57:40
gonna keel over like on live TV. That's not gonna
57:44
happen. That dude is gonna die in like, His private
57:50
like quarters like training like you know what
57:53
I mean like later. Yes He will have a heart attack
57:56
before or after but he will not have a heart
58:00
attack in the middle of the games so so I'm for
58:07
it like if you decide to do like it's your body
58:11
your choice if you want to if you want to put
58:13
in enhancing drugs into you that is your choice
58:19
That's awesome if you want to be super strong
58:22
if you want to gouge a man's eye out in the middle
58:25
like just If you want to have that strength to
58:28
rip a man's skull apart more power to you. You
58:33
know what I mean? Like I Know exactly what you
58:36
mean. Yeah, but I don't think that they will
58:40
have They will not have a death televised during
58:45
the enhanced Olympics I hope not. Is what I'm
58:48
saying. I think it will either happen before
58:52
or after. Because you're always wanting to get
58:57
stronger and leading up to it, you might want
59:01
to take a little bit more, like leading up to
59:04
it. Exactly. But it won't be shown. So these
59:10
enhanced athletes will keel over in their basement
59:16
or whatever. I don't know if they'll, when I
59:20
think about it, I don't know if they'll put that
59:22
on TV, because I don't think they want - They
59:25
shouldn't. They 100 % will not put any - if this
59:28
even happens, this will be on some sort of sketchy
59:32
stream. This is not going to be on television.
59:34
They shouldn't. Because they - Let's be honest,
59:40
this probably isn't going to happen. This probably
59:42
isn't going to happen. I want it to. Don't get
59:44
me wrong. It won't. Well, I want it. I want this
59:48
to happen so fucking bad because I want this.
59:51
I want to see what the human body is capable
59:53
of. Yes, I want. I want people to be limitless.
1:00:00
I want to create fucking super soldiers in this
1:00:03
in this in the time that I'm living in. Like,
1:00:07
I don't know if I want. I want a man to lift
1:00:09
a car. Like, why is that so hard? I don't know
1:00:13
if I want super soldiers to be bred from this
1:00:15
because. Let's be honest the Eastern Europeans
1:00:18
are going to take this way more seriously and
1:00:20
I don't want them because they're the bad guys
1:00:24
They're technically our allies so we can relax
1:00:30
so They're technically our allies. Yes All right.
1:00:36
Well, we can move on from this Chris, what did
1:00:40
you what did you want to discuss? Okay. Well
1:00:42
before we get into what I wanted to discuss We
1:00:44
got another Choke City Pacers completed a 20
1:00:48
-point cutback to take game two over the Cleveland
1:00:50
Cavaliers. Pacers up two -nothing. Team of Destiny.
1:00:54
They're winning the whole goddamn thing. Not
1:00:56
a big deal. But yeah, my dad texted me while
1:01:01
we were recording, so I just wanted to get that
1:01:03
in there. I got the group checks from our friend
1:01:07
who had Pacers' Moneyline, apparently. or spread
1:01:11
or something. I think you had both. You had both?
1:01:15
Okay. Well, if you're going to take one, take
1:01:17
the other. Damn. Wish I would have taken that
1:01:19
out. All right. What I was going to talk about
1:01:23
this whole players wearing retired numbers thing
1:01:27
or wanting to retire to this shit. I started
1:01:32
out with, cause it started with Ken Ward getting
1:01:35
permission from Warren Mood to wear one. And
1:01:36
I was like, you know what? He asked, it was a
1:01:39
whole thing. That's cool. Whatever. Abdul Carter
1:01:42
has lost his damn mind. I don't know if you've
1:01:44
seen this. That's a little wild. That's silly.
1:01:48
I don't think this man has had an original thought
1:01:50
when it comes to picking a number. There are
1:01:51
so many numbers. And he wanted to wear, initially
1:01:57
wanted to wear Lawrence Taylor's number, which
1:01:59
asking Lawrence Taylor to wear his number has
1:02:02
to be the craziest thing you could possibly do
1:02:04
as a rookie. That's a wild ass move. And then
1:02:07
Lawrence Taylor, Rightfully so. Like said, no,
1:02:10
it's retired for a reason. Make your own legacy,
1:02:13
kid. Okay, cool. I wore 11 in college. I'm gonna
1:02:16
ask Phil Sims if I can wear his retired number.
1:02:18
He said no. Again, kind of rightfully so. What
1:02:23
are we doing, Abdulkar? The Warren Moon thing
1:02:29
is different because, I mean, he was like, hey,
1:02:34
you can have my number, you know? And, uh, and
1:02:37
you know, I mean, you can get into weeds with
1:02:39
like, technically it's retired as a, as an oiler
1:02:42
and Titans franchise. I'm not doing this. I'm
1:02:45
not doing this. Titans franchise. We've had this
1:02:49
debate. So just with the jerseys in general,
1:02:52
Titans franchise. Yeah. Yep. You're right. So,
1:02:55
um, but yeah, no, but this is Lawrence Taylor,
1:03:01
the, the greatest defender of all time. And also
1:03:06
a psychopath. Respectful. Love him like he is.
1:03:11
He was like you said, one of the greatest friends
1:03:13
of football players of all time, if not the greatest.
1:03:16
Psychopath. You know what? You know what he did
1:03:20
on his draft night? Crack. I think I think he
1:03:24
just had 28 cores light. No, then yes, but and
1:03:28
then crack. This is not like defamation. He's
1:03:34
been publicly he's made that his crack usage
1:03:38
public Yes, he was I Did see that that story
1:03:45
where um, he was like, what did you do your job?
1:03:47
I drank like 28 course lights or something. Yeah
1:03:52
Smokes crack guys. I mean guys a legend but then
1:03:56
to go from like one retired player to another
1:03:59
especially a quarterback when you're a edge rusher
1:04:02
like What are we doing? Also, at Penn, like he
1:04:07
wore 11 at Penn State. The reason he wore 11
1:04:10
at Penn State is because that's like, it's like
1:04:13
an honor to wear that number. It's like you were
1:04:15
selected to wear that number. So when was the
1:04:21
last time where he chose his jersey number? Because
1:04:24
it's been at least three years, I think. Your
1:04:27
question. Yeah, probably high school. High school,
1:04:30
yeah. And like, Again, there are so many numbers.
1:04:34
There are dozens of numbers. How can you just,
1:04:38
I'm going to pick the best, arguably the best
1:04:42
player in franchise history. Ask him first. He
1:04:46
said, no, okay. I'll ask the second best player
1:04:49
in franchise history. I'm, I'm tired of this
1:04:53
whole like, it seems to be like we're trending
1:04:55
in a direction where like rookies are going to
1:04:59
be asking this from Not just this year, but possibly
1:05:03
years in the future. I'm very, I'm taking a stance
1:05:06
after cam ward, not biased at all. I'm anti wearing
1:05:11
retired numbers. It's, it's ridiculous. Yeah.
1:05:14
If, uh, if a Titans player comes after Eddie's
1:05:19
number or Steve's number, I'm like, I mean, sir,
1:05:26
someone, I forget who off the top of my head,
1:05:27
I'll look it up. Someone's wearing CJ's. That's
1:05:31
fine We haven't retired him have we we haven't
1:05:34
retired, but it's still like Yeah, I think didn't
1:05:39
Jeremy McNichols where CJ did it did oh I think
1:05:43
he did I think it did I mean it was like It's
1:05:48
not it's not a big deal. Like it's not a it's
1:05:51
not it's it Yeah, it's just the only reason it's
1:05:53
getting talked about is because cam is wearing
1:05:55
warm warm insumber. Yeah, well he Could you say
1:06:01
that cam set a precedent for these rookies? Unfortunately,
1:06:06
yes, you could definitely say that you could
1:06:08
I think you could say that but I also I think
1:06:12
we're also getting into the the era and You know,
1:06:16
you've seen it in shows like I mean Futurama
1:06:21
comes to mind where you know They go to a like
1:06:26
that that show takes place in the year 3000 So
1:06:30
like they go to the Yankees game and all their
1:06:33
player numbers are like Fractions You know cuz
1:06:39
like all of their like numbers are retired so
1:06:43
like for nobody nobody has a number anymore,
1:06:48
so we're Kind of like I don't want to say we're
1:06:53
getting into that era, but we are kind of stepping
1:06:57
into that era where it's like this is this is
1:07:00
the number that I've worn throughout my entire
1:07:03
career I want to wear this number may I have
1:07:07
your permission and that player that had that
1:07:11
number says no and you're just like okay I guess
1:07:18
yeah like I mean there's really only a couple
1:07:22
of franchises where or that's You know, yeah,
1:07:26
it's starting to become an issue like yeah, I
1:07:28
mean you just think of the really old teams like
1:07:32
the Yankees are like the the Canadians are the
1:07:34
Leafs like they have so many Retired numbers
1:07:38
Celtics are like that too. Yeah. Yeah, so it
1:07:41
is you know, I won't say it's slowly becoming
1:07:44
that but For everyone so it kind of I I don't
1:07:51
think it's I don't think it's like it an epidemic
1:07:55
Whatsoever, you know, but I know but I think
1:07:59
we're We're teetering we're teetering for sure
1:08:05
Also, I think You're setting yourself up to either
1:08:10
be you either have to be fucking incredible or
1:08:16
This is a huge mistake. Yeah, because I mean
1:08:20
there's a chance like Ken Ward just doesn't work
1:08:23
out There's probably a pretty good chance that
1:08:25
happens. There's probably a pretty good chance.
1:08:27
What? Like, or also sitting there like, hey,
1:08:30
fucking thanks a lot, kid, for discussing my
1:08:33
number. I mean, that this will never happen.
1:08:35
Like, I think we're one like Titans like this
1:08:40
will happen to Kim Ward. We're like a monumental
1:08:43
bust away, like wearing a retired number away
1:08:47
from this never happening again, because just
1:08:49
like who wants to do that? So. I really hope
1:08:54
that doesn't happen with us, but I think that's
1:08:56
what it would have to take for this to permanently
1:08:58
just stop. And I could just be overreacting because
1:09:02
it's only happened, I guess, three times, granted,
1:09:05
for two players that I know of at least. So I
1:09:09
could be overreacting, but I saw Abdulkar ask
1:09:12
two guys, and they both said no. And I was like,
1:09:15
what are we doing here? Yeah. I mean, I think
1:09:20
it does show a lot that a player who is still
1:09:26
alive, you know, that has a jersey number retired
1:09:31
in your franchise, comes out and hands you their
1:09:36
number. I think that does show a lot. That shows
1:09:39
a lot of faith in that player. And God, God,
1:09:48
Cam Ward, you are, you are, please save us. Please
1:09:53
save us, Kam Lord. Please save us, Kam Lord.
1:09:56
Please save us, Kam Lord. I think that shows
1:10:00
a lot of faith. And there's something to that
1:10:04
where a player doesn't want to give up their
1:10:09
number at the same time. You know what I mean?
1:10:13
Like, it's like, no, like, make your own legacy
1:10:19
also, but... Also like you can also build off
1:10:25
of this number I Get I get both schools of thought
1:10:30
honestly Yeah, like I just don't want this to
1:10:32
be a thing is what I yeah, I get that yeah. Yeah
1:10:36
Yeah, it doesn't need it. It doesn't need to
1:10:39
be a regular thing, but it does show faith in
1:10:42
the franchise to hand off your number like I
1:10:47
do like that like Warren Moon handing off his
1:10:51
number to Cam Ward was cool. Like it was, it
1:10:56
was sick. Like let's not, let's not like. What's
1:11:03
the word Will? Get it twisted. Let's not get
1:11:06
it twisted. Yep. It was cool. But yeah. It was.
1:11:15
I just. He needs to be the last one to do it.
1:11:19
Granted, we only have two others, but he needs
1:11:22
to be the last one to do it forever. With us,
1:11:27
at least. Eddie and Steve should be untouchable
1:11:31
forever. But Warren Moon was in the 60s. I guess
1:11:43
we can give it a pass, I guess. But yeah, like
1:11:47
Lawrence Taylor, like, wasn't he like? Like late
1:11:51
80s, like 80s, late 80s into the early 90s. Yeah,
1:11:55
like. It's it's early enough to where you can't
1:12:01
really ask for it also. And like not disrespecting
1:12:07
Warren Moon whatsoever, he's a phenomenal player.
1:12:09
Yeah, Lawrence Taylor is objectively the best
1:12:12
player in his position, like. I would say definitely,
1:12:17
but he's top three. I would say argument. I mean,
1:12:22
he might be a top 10 player all time. Yeah. So
1:12:26
again, like not to disrespect one move, but I
1:12:29
mean, Lawrence Taylor is, that's another level.
1:12:33
If we're being perfectly honest. Yeah, absolutely.
1:12:37
Um, hurricanes, uh, one and over time. Just wanted
1:12:40
to throw that out there. All right, I'm gonna
1:12:42
go, uh, rest in a bathtub. Jesus H. I'm joking.
1:12:48
Relax. Relax, you relax. Yeah, that was really
1:12:52
dark, sorry. Jesus. I've been, I've been ice
1:12:58
cold, bro. It's been bad. I've been ice cold.
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