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How Did I Get A Life Sentence For Something My Son Did??? · So Shameless

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  Speaker 5: So the point is to take you deeper into a
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  Speaker 5: headline or the headline of a case. So for example,
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  Speaker 5: and I just want to, uh, so you kind of
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  Speaker 5: understand if you have you guys been following or hearing
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  Speaker 5: about the Uncle Near's situation.
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  Speaker 6: A little bit.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, okay, wait, I can only see my set. Okay,
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  Speaker 5: thank you. I was like, I can only.
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  Speaker 7: See any stress out stress.
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  Speaker 4: He was like, wait, I need to see okay.
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  Speaker 5: So basically Uncle Nears, the CEO basically of Uncle NEARSS
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  Speaker 5: is a woman named Faon Weaver and her husband Keith Weaver.
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  Speaker 5: What has happened is they were sued by a lender.
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  Speaker 5: They got one hundred million dollars basically from this lender
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  Speaker 5: and we're not paying the money back. So the lender
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  Speaker 5: sued them to put a receiver in place to have
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  Speaker 5: Basically the receiver was I mean, the lender was like,
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  Speaker 5: somebody needs to go handle their money because they're not
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  Speaker 5: paying us. And there something that is happening. And so
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  Speaker 5: the internet right starts giving opinions about this black brand
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  Speaker 5: running to the ground by this black woman. You see
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  Speaker 5: what happens, she's a scammer, blah blah blah. Right, and
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  Speaker 5: so that has been months of that conversation. Last week
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  Speaker 5: I followed that case and so I read emotion the
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  Speaker 5: receiver has now sued the lender. So the person who
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  Speaker 5: yes the receiver has on behalf of the year.
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  Speaker 7: Uh huh. I think I did see you do this video,
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  Speaker 7: and I was mother foot. I was shocked. Go ahead,
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  Speaker 7: I know who you are, goddamn it.
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  Speaker 5: So I made that like gone viral because it was
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  Speaker 5: behind the headlines. What you learn is that number one,
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  Speaker 5: there was a CFO that was a part of Uncle Nears,
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  Speaker 5: and this CFO is the one who really took the money.
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  Speaker 5: The CFO the Uncle Nears had originally only borrowed like
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  Speaker 5: thirty five million dollars. The CFO, no, her bat behind
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  Speaker 5: Fawn's back, had increased the loan from thirty five million
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  Speaker 5: to seventy six million dollars. And he is and then
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  Speaker 5: he's he's not only increasing it, he has been withdrawing.
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  Speaker 5: He's taking the money.
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  Speaker 7: Right, and then you said he was lying about the
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  Speaker 7: barrels or something like that.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't wait, wait tell, wait, shut your black ass
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  Speaker 2: fuck you.
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  Speaker 5: In addition to increasing the loan, what would happen is
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  Speaker 5: Fawn would sign off on vendors being paid. You got
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  Speaker 5: you know, the bottle people, whoever. She's signing off on
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  Speaker 5: these people being paid. This CFO would go back in
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  Speaker 5: the after she signed off, he found some kind of loophole.
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  Speaker 5: He would go back into the system, change who the paye,
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  Speaker 5: who was being paid, and changed the amount. So he's
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  Speaker 5: been getting all this money. On top of that, she
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  Speaker 5: has shares. She basically was like, I don't really want
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  Speaker 5: a salary. I want my stuff in shares. He starts
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  Speaker 5: changing her shares over to him. He reassigns them to himself.
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  Speaker 7: Right.
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  Speaker 5: This happens over years, and she has no idea, okay, oh,
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  Speaker 5: no no idea. And because the lender, the problem the
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  Speaker 5: lender has is the lender allowed him to increase this
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  Speaker 5: loan from thirty five to seventy six. They never call her,
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  Speaker 5: they never require her signature. It's the only person who
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  Speaker 5: is signing off is this CFO. So the receiver has
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  Speaker 5: now sued the lender because he's basically like, you made
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  Speaker 5: your own situation, You contributed to your harm.
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  Speaker 6: You.
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  Speaker 7: Why wouldn't you call her?
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  Speaker 5: Why wouldn't you require two people at least to sign
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  Speaker 5: off on increasing a loan by millions of dollars that
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  Speaker 5: you hurt yourself? So he issued. I say all that
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  Speaker 5: to say, the narrative for this whole time has been
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  Speaker 5: this black woman ran this company into the ground. When
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  Speaker 5: you look a little further, you learn, actually there's a
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  Speaker 5: little more to this story. So that is kind of
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  Speaker 5: the premise of the kind of game will play if
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  Speaker 5: you will.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, okay yo, that is nuts. Look, gosh, I told
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  Speaker 4: you he was gonna be excited. Look your bag. I
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  Speaker 4: knew this. Let's go.
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  Speaker 6: The CFO was black.
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  Speaker 5: No, his name, well, his name is Michael Sanzaki. So
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  Speaker 5: you can do with that information what you will. MMMM
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  Speaker 5: confirmed that the picture I found on Google Google, I
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  Speaker 5: haven't confirmed it's actually him, but when you google him,
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  Speaker 5: the picture looks like he is of Asian descent. They've
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  Speaker 5: also said what he did with the money. He bought
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  Speaker 5: a house in Vegas. He has a huge gambling problem apparently,
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  Speaker 5: and he bought some cars, so he was doing what
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  Speaker 5: he wanted to with this money. I suspect they'll probably
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  Speaker 5: be some kind of criminal charges at some point, but
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  Speaker 5: we're not locking them up lacking it.
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  Speaker 8: Well, let me get my get my handy dandy notebook.
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  Speaker 8: I'm ready, all right, Okay.
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  Speaker 5: So I want to start with I'm looking at all
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  Speaker 5: these cases. Which one should I start with?
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  Speaker 3: First?
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  Speaker 5: Let's start with.
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  Speaker 7: A murder?
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  Speaker 5: Well, follow me. Let's start with getting you guys's opinions
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  Speaker 5: on what do you think about chasing someone who has
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  Speaker 5: committed a crime against you. Let's say somebody robs you.
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  Speaker 5: Let's say somebody breaks into your house. Where do you
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  Speaker 5: generally stand on chasing them if they've stolen from you?
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  Speaker 5: Chasing them wrong or not wrong?
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  Speaker 2: I'm chasing him. There's no way I'm not chasing them
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  Speaker 2: if I see them, Like, how do I just let
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  Speaker 2: you go?
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  Speaker 7: Okay?
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  Speaker 2: And I don't even know what I'm doing to be honest, like,
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  Speaker 2: I don't think, I don't. I don't know if I'm
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  Speaker 2: personally trying to get it back, if I'm calling the police, like, yo,
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  Speaker 2: I'm chasing this person, but you're not just going yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I'm chasing it.
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  Speaker 6: So I have, I have chased somebody.
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  Speaker 9: And I called Tahoe, well, actually my fiance called Tahoe, like,
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  Speaker 9: could you go get this nigga? He's wilding and met
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  Speaker 9: me around around the corner and I don't even know
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  Speaker 9: what he stole, but I just know he stole something
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  Speaker 9: like an Amazon package, and I was.
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  Speaker 4: Pissed.
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  Speaker 9: I was so heated just because of the violation. It
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  Speaker 9: doesn't even matter what the dollar man was. So I
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  Speaker 9: don't know if it's the right thing to do. But yeah,
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  Speaker 9: I'm running after niggas.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah, I'm running after yeah, running after badnee and all,
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  Speaker 10: I'm running after you.
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  Speaker 3: That's the fact.
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  Speaker 7: I'm an run after them for a period of time.
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  Speaker 8: But what I'm really gonna look for is something to
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  Speaker 8: throw to slow them down. So I'm running and like,
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  Speaker 8: if I find a brick, I'm launching that shit, Like
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  Speaker 8: and if I catch you, that's good.
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  Speaker 6: That's gonna be more than slow them.
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  Speaker 9: Down, dush.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, and what do you think about chasing them with
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  Speaker 5: a firearm? You have a firearm, you believe they have
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  Speaker 5: a firearm. Is it still a good idea? Would you
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  Speaker 5: still chase when firearms are in play?
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  Speaker 7: I'm not chasing nobody with no gun.
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  Speaker 8: I don't know why, like in my brain, like running
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  Speaker 8: with a gun just sounds stupid, like.
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  Speaker 10: But yeah, and also too, I feel like if I
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  Speaker 10: have a gun and a person has a gun in
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  Speaker 10: there in front of me, and if I'm running like this,
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  Speaker 10: they could just turn back at any time and just
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  Speaker 10: shoot chill, Like, how would I know, like what I'm
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  Speaker 10: gonna do?
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  Speaker 3: Like like how I'm.
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  Speaker 7: Coun't even stop fast enough?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not.
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  Speaker 10: I'm not in a good space at that point. So
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  Speaker 10: if you got a gun, I'm not running at you.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, I'm a I'm aimed for.
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  Speaker 7: Your leg and if I if I missed, then I'm
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  Speaker 7: just gonna have to take the l Yeah.
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  Speaker 9: At that point, I need to figure out what it
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  Speaker 9: is I'm running after. Did you steal a bag of money,
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  Speaker 9: like one hundred million dollars, Like you got a gun,
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  Speaker 9: I got a gun. I might run after you for
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  Speaker 9: one hundred million but if it's just something, I'm not
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  Speaker 9: chasing nobody to engage in a potential gunfight, which you
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  Speaker 9: you know what I mean for something trivial.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, I'm sorry to say y'all are all I'm
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  Speaker 2: on the opposite end. For one, we've already heard about
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  Speaker 2: this play out with this case and uh whatever with
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  Speaker 2: the kid that was shouting yes, and that.
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  Speaker 3: Was over the bottle of water.
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  Speaker 2: So when you're talking about the principle versus you know,
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  Speaker 2: the one hundred million dollars, we've already seen this play out, right.
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  Speaker 2: We've also seen how the person in front actually doesn't
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  Speaker 2: have the advantage versus the person behind you. Yesterday, I
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  Speaker 2: disagree with that the person behind you has the advantage.
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  Speaker 2: The person you're the person chasing has the advantage because
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  Speaker 2: if you're running, you don't even have the to turn
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  Speaker 2: around and get a good thing and point and focus
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  Speaker 2: before I could just stop and up it. You don't
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  Speaker 2: have that, you know what I'm saying. But I will
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  Speaker 2: say that as far as what Traum is saying, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: if you got one and I got one and you
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  Speaker 2: got something in mind, yo, you're generally takes over, bro,
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  Speaker 2: And especially if it's a legal weapon, right, A lot
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  Speaker 2: of times your illegal weapon you use for self defense.
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  Speaker 2: Well that's the that's it's I don't want to die.
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  Speaker 2: I'd rather go to jail for three and a half
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  Speaker 2: four years than die. So you're going to use your
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  Speaker 2: illegal weapon in that manner. But it's kind of stupid
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  Speaker 2: to use it in an aggressive offensive player, you know
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  Speaker 2: what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 3: So that's that's where I'm going.
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  Speaker 2: If it's a leader, most likely I'm chasing you down
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  Speaker 2: and if you got my ship, depending on what state
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  Speaker 2: I'm in, I might up it.
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  Speaker 3: And that's just it is what it is.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, I don't nah.
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  Speaker 8: I like I said, I'm gonna try to go for
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  Speaker 8: I because see, this is this is my thing, right,
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  Speaker 8: I don't want to kill anybody, but I would like
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  Speaker 8: to hurt somebody to the point that when they continue
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  Speaker 8: to live, they have to remember, Like like, if you
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  Speaker 8: walk around for the rest of your life with a limp,
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  Speaker 8: you're gonna remember like, yeah, I've been shot me because
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  Speaker 8: I scol something from Like you gotta you gotta explain that, Like, yo,
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  Speaker 8: why you got a limp?
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  Speaker 7: I scol something from somebody and she shot you? Understand,
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  Speaker 7: But I don't.
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  Speaker 4: Want you to die.
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  Speaker 7: I mean, I want you to want a story to
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  Speaker 7: tell you understand.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, wow, I want to tell you. God, there's some
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  Speaker 5: nuances with this story, but I'm just going to tell
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  Speaker 5: you about a story. And before I even get there,
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  Speaker 5: I want to say, many states, even some standard ground states,
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  Speaker 5: if the threat has left, you are not supposed to chase, right,
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  Speaker 5: So legally you get into the little gray area. And
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  Speaker 5: for some state, not all of them, but for some
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  Speaker 5: of them, even for a standard ground it becomes a
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  Speaker 5: little gray. However, Texas has a law where if you
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  Speaker 5: and actually I just want to say it right, it's
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  Speaker 5: a protection of one's own property. So even if somebody
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  Speaker 5: robs you and they are leaving in Texas, they allow
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  Speaker 5: you to chase, but it has to be immediate pursuit.
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  Speaker 5: I want to say it right. You have to do
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  Speaker 5: it immediately, like they can't steal from you and then
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  Speaker 5: I see you in a week and I'm trying to
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  Speaker 5: kill you. If it's immediate after they have robbed you.
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  Speaker 5: If you believe that I can chase this person in
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  Speaker 5: order to retrieve my things, that you legally can in Texas,
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  Speaker 5: not everywhere in Texas. So what happens with this chase.
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  Speaker 5: This man is Valentine's Day. This man and his wife
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  Speaker 5: are headed to Valentine's dinner in the evening. They pull
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  Speaker 5: up at an ATM and while they she's driving. While
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  Speaker 5: they are there, man comes since the face cover comes
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  Speaker 5: to the window. Literally they it's video. She is getting
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  Speaker 5: her ATM car. A man pulls up in the window
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  Speaker 5: with the gun. Give me your stuff. The woman gives
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  Speaker 5: her purse. The man, who is the robber runs Husband
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  Speaker 5: passenger side gets out of the car. He starts trying
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  Speaker 5: to chase the robber. The robber, it takes off right again,
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  Speaker 5: it's dark. All of a sudden, there's the robber gets
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  Speaker 5: out of sight in a black car. Truck comes down
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  Speaker 5: the street. Husband assumes this car is the getaway car,
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  Speaker 5: so he takes his weapon and begins shooting at this vehicle.
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  Speaker 3: Dummy.
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  Speaker 5: The vehicle is not the getaway car.
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  Speaker 7: Of course, it's not the getaway car.
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  Speaker 5: The vehicle is a family who is also headed to dinner.
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  Speaker 5: So husband accidentally shoots and kills a nine year old
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  Speaker 5: little girl who is in the car.
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  Speaker 7: That's why you shouldn't be chasing nobody.
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  Speaker 5: Because he thought it was the getaway car. He not
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  Speaker 5: only shoots one time. The car is driving down the street.
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  Speaker 5: This father, right, who is taking his family to dinner. Oh,
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  Speaker 5: husband is shooting as he does it unloading.
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  Speaker 7: He thought he was motherfucking Tom Cruise.
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  Speaker 5: Just turns out he kills a nine year old little girl.
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  Speaker 5: And so this case goes to trial because he is
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  Speaker 5: his claim. His defense is protection of one's own property.
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  Speaker 5: I am allowed legally to in pursuit of my things,
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  Speaker 5: I'm allowed to shoot. The prosecutors are like responsibly though,
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  Speaker 5: right it's dark, you can't see, you lose sight of
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  Speaker 5: your target. You've gone from legal grounds to now making
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  Speaker 5: an assumption, and now somebody's dead. So it was very
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  Speaker 5: interesting and he was very apologetic. He take he is
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  Speaker 5: crying on the stand because he didn't wake up that
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  Speaker 5: day and think about this. I was headed to dinner.
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  Speaker 5: This wouldn't even happened had I not been robbed. Right,
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  Speaker 5: He makes his argument, The jury ends up convicting him,
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  Speaker 5: and he gets ooh, I want to say.
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  Speaker 3: Oh my god, that's not right.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, he ends up getting like twenty five years.
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  Speaker 3: He shouldn't have gone to jail.
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  Speaker 5: And so the question is, now that we've had the
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  Speaker 5: conversation beforehand. What are your.
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  Speaker 4: Thoughts, You shouldn't should have went to jail? Well, he
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  Speaker 4: should have.
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  Speaker 7: Should have went to jail.
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  Speaker 3: Somebody has to go down for that.
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  Speaker 2: That he would have went to jail for negligent homicide
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  Speaker 2: for sure. Negligent homicide for sure. But it's kind of
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  Speaker 2: like it's kind of life.
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  Speaker 6: For one.
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  Speaker 2: Even if you think this Robert is in that car,
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  Speaker 2: that car could be a weapon. That car could have
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  Speaker 2: drove right into you, could have pitched you like you,
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  Speaker 2: you're you're literally in moments like that. We gotta think
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  Speaker 2: about intent. You gotta think about impact. You gotta think
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  Speaker 2: about what just happened, what your reaction is. What's the
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  Speaker 2: reasonable idea of you being able to make split second
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  Speaker 2: decisions that if you take it to trial, it just
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  Speaker 2: makes common sense, Like my nigga, this nigga ran that way.
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  Speaker 4: Next thing, you know, it's a car speeding towards me.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know what the fuck? Yeah, I let it go.
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  Speaker 2: I made a fucking mistake. Obviously I'm wrong and I
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  Speaker 2: should do time.
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  Speaker 4: But thirty years, thirty years, that's.
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  Speaker 3: Agree with you?
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  Speaker 10: Maybe not twenty five because again I don't think because again,
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  Speaker 10: if somebody actually killed somebody. What's the penalty for that?
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  Speaker 10: Is it twenty five is the same thing? Yeah, you
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  Speaker 10: gotta regular, you gotta That's.
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  Speaker 3: So that's what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 10: I feel like, if that, if it kills my purposely,
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  Speaker 10: it's twenty five, that ten fifteen maybe off. Like those
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  Speaker 10: two things being on the same level or the same
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  Speaker 10: time period.
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  Speaker 5: It's like, well, well, let me give you more info.
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  Speaker 5: First of all, I just double check it. Let me
• 18:15
  Speaker 5: give you more info. But it's twenty years. So he
• 18:17
  Speaker 5: got twenty years, not twenty five one correctly. All right,
• 18:20
  Speaker 5: So two additional things to consider, Okay, follow me. Texas
• 18:26
  Speaker 5: is the state that one of the only states is
• 18:28
  Speaker 5: not many, that allows you to choose for your jury
• 18:35
  Speaker 5: to sentence you most times. Right, you know, if you
• 18:38
  Speaker 5: go to trial, they the jurors determined guilt or innocence,
• 18:41
  Speaker 5: but a judge is the one who determines your sent
• 18:44
  Speaker 5: In Texas, you can say, judge, I don't.
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: Want you to.
• 18:46
  Speaker 5: I want them to. Tony Earls that's his name, chose
• 18:49
  Speaker 5: for the jury too, so they decided the twenty years. Okay,
• 18:53
  Speaker 5: but let me tell you one more thing. During a
• 18:56
  Speaker 5: sentencing phase, more information about defendant gets to come out okay,
• 19:01
  Speaker 5: and so.
• 19:04
  Speaker 7: Huh what happens.
• 19:07
  Speaker 5: During the sentencing is after he kills this little girl mistakenly, right,
• 19:14
  Speaker 5: he is caught on camera shortly after in a gas
• 19:24
  Speaker 5: station in a physical altercation with his actual son, which
• 19:28
  Speaker 5: was very bizarre, but like they're fighting each other, he
• 19:32
  Speaker 5: pulls out a gun, no station at his son. So
• 19:39
  Speaker 5: get this information before they sentence him. And I will say,
• 19:43
  Speaker 5: just personally, as I was watching, I was heartbroken because
• 19:45
  Speaker 5: you feel so bad for this man, and then you're like,
• 19:47
  Speaker 5: you ain't even learn your lesson, you stupid, And so
• 19:51
  Speaker 5: I actually think he could have got My belief is
• 19:55
  Speaker 5: he would have gotten less time. But when you see
• 19:59
  Speaker 5: this shortly after you just killed a nine year old,
• 20:03
  Speaker 5: you're not responsible with a gun, It's what you know
• 20:06
  Speaker 5: what I'm saying. So anyway, that's more information that could
• 20:09
  Speaker 5: I believe contributed to that twenty years.
• 20:11
  Speaker 7: You know what's so.
• 20:12
  Speaker 8: Funny even adding that already taught like it's something about
• 20:16
  Speaker 8: this story already said to me that he lacked emotional regulation,
• 20:20
  Speaker 8: Like because again you're in the heat of the moment,
• 20:23
  Speaker 8: I understand you, You're trying to protect your your woman,
• 20:26
  Speaker 8: you do your thing. Even if the car is coming
• 20:27
  Speaker 8: at you, you shoot at it one time. Once that
• 20:29
  Speaker 8: shit passed you, there's no reason for you to turn
• 20:32
  Speaker 8: around and keep.
• 20:33
  Speaker 7: Dumping at it. That alone gives you twenty if you.
• 20:37
  Speaker 8: Would have just been like, ah, I'm in a way,
• 20:39
  Speaker 8: Oh there's a cart bot two. If it drove past you,
• 20:43
  Speaker 8: it didn't stop, it wasn't trying to get you. Nobody
• 20:45
  Speaker 8: shot back at you. You just gonna have to take
• 20:47
  Speaker 8: that l and you. I tried, I went after it.
• 20:50
  Speaker 7: I tried. I shot at niggas.
• 20:52
  Speaker 8: I don't got your bag, shorty, Like, let's call all
• 20:54
  Speaker 8: the companies and let's do what we gotta do. Yeah,
• 20:57
  Speaker 8: unloading a clip at the car that passed you and
• 21:00
  Speaker 8: nobody is shooting back. Your emotional regulation is off you.
• 21:04
  Speaker 8: Even even in heightened situations. As an adult, you still
• 21:08
  Speaker 8: have to emotionally regulate.
• 21:10
  Speaker 7: Is it easy?
• 21:11
  Speaker 8: Absolutely not? But do you have to do it? Absolutely?
• 21:14
  Speaker 8: He yeah, he owed that. Yeah, he gotta.
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: I gotta.
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: I gotta ask Trump you got something good?
• 21:19
  Speaker 6: Well, I was gonna say, do I still have feedback?
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: No?
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: Oh no you Yeah.
• 21:24
  Speaker 9: I was just gonna piggyback off of what Dodge said.
• 21:27
  Speaker 9: That I believe that he's emotionally unstable, and he does
• 21:32
  Speaker 9: deserve the time because at that at the point he's
• 21:36
  Speaker 9: shooting at a at a moving vehicle, I don't think
• 21:39
  Speaker 9: his intent is necessary to get the purse back anymore.
• 21:43
  Speaker 9: Now it's like venge. So now again to Dodge's point,
• 21:47
  Speaker 9: you're somebody with a loaded weapon that is not emotionally regulated.
• 21:52
  Speaker 9: It's not about revenge just at that point, it's not
• 21:55
  Speaker 9: about self defense. And I don't know how much it's
• 21:58
  Speaker 9: about even getting the property back, because in order to
• 22:00
  Speaker 9: get the property back, the vehicle has to stop and
• 22:03
  Speaker 9: you have to shoot the driver or something to that. Yeah, yeah,
• 22:09
  Speaker 9: we're like wick or something, and the ship flips over
• 22:12
  Speaker 9: fifteen times and you stop the car.
• 22:14
  Speaker 6: Like what are we doing here? And like once he
• 22:16
  Speaker 6: gets in the car, like come on, man, you don't
• 22:19
  Speaker 6: even know if he's in the car. You don't know
• 22:21
  Speaker 6: who's living. Yeah, it's a mess.
• 22:23
  Speaker 8: I got you gotta be intentional when you shooting, aside
• 22:27
  Speaker 8: to ask.
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: A question, for one, I think I'm wrong or you know,
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: because bro, you can't just kill a nine year old
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: just over a purse. You can't just you know, I
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: was thinking about it and I don't really know what
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: you could kill a nine year old over you're by
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: mistake and you don't deserve to have to pay for
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: the nine year old's life, Like I think that. I'm
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: just I'm thinking like in some type of weird ass world.
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: But it's like, Bro, you shot at a fucking car
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: and killed an innocent like person, like what he is
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: gonna be innocent regardless, but some innocent family and you
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: just shoot and be like, oh my bad, I thought
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: you somebody else?
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: What you can't you can't do that right?
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: But here I have a question for all of y'all,
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: and Melanie, I love for you to answer this question.
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: Say he does all of this and they find the robber,
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: can the robber now be.
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: Charged with murder some sort of you know what I mean?
• 23:34
  Speaker 5: He could have never found him.
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: He could be charged with that.
• 23:38
  Speaker 7: Yeah, because you it's a it's a it's a series
• 23:41
  Speaker 7: of events. You started this. You're the catalyst.
• 23:43
  Speaker 8: No, this would have never happened if you never did it,
• 23:46
  Speaker 8: and all that shit can get dumped right on, absolutely.
• 23:50
  Speaker 10: And the first thing that you did was a crime,
• 23:51
  Speaker 10: which was the ticking and stuff. So ultimately you're starting bad.
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: And you can go to jail for murder because somebody
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: shot at you and shot somebody else.
• 24:01
  Speaker 10: If you commit a crime and your crime leads to
• 24:04
  Speaker 10: somebody dying, yeah, you on the hook for that.
• 24:07
  Speaker 8: It's not going to be the same charge, but there
• 24:09
  Speaker 8: is some type of liability that you could have.
• 24:12
  Speaker 7: Absolute folutely, he absolutely could have been charged.
• 24:14
  Speaker 5: They've never been able to find him. But had he
• 24:17
  Speaker 5: been fit, and I know he had to be at
• 24:19
  Speaker 5: home watching that child trial stress.
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: He would have got fried fried.
• 24:23
  Speaker 5: The prosecutors would have had to make to choose to
• 24:26
  Speaker 5: do that. And had they found him, I believe Tony
• 24:29
  Speaker 5: Earls wouldn't have been charged. If they found the Robbert,
• 24:33
  Speaker 5: they wouldn't have went after Tony Earls. But somebody's going
• 24:35
  Speaker 5: to answer for a nine year old being killed. And
• 24:36
  Speaker 5: if it's not the Robert, then I'm sorry, hope it's
• 24:38
  Speaker 5: gonna be you. So I think that that's what ended
• 24:40
  Speaker 5: up happening.
• 24:41
  Speaker 7: Yet stole the purse, you're busy shooting.
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: You ain't even you your son y'are supposed to going dogator?
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: What Now?
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: How old was it before we go to the next case.
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: How old was his son that he was fighting?
• 24:58
  Speaker 5: He was like sixteen.
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: He opted on a sixteen year old kid.
• 25:03
  Speaker 7: These whys crazy.
• 25:07
  Speaker 5: I went from feeling a lot of sympathy and like,
• 25:08
  Speaker 5: oh my gosh, this is so terrible to Okay, lock this, nigga, what.
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: Are you doing?
• 25:16
  Speaker 5: Sad? Yeah, Chrison, okay, next case.
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: That was great, That was great. That was great. I
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: told you all. I'm excited.
• 25:26
  Speaker 7: I got my notes and everything.
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: I'm locked.
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: God's got that note pad.
• 25:30
  Speaker 5: Here's a good question. How do you feel about parents
• 25:33
  Speaker 5: being held criminally responsible for the actions of their child.
• 25:37
  Speaker 5: If your child commits a crime, should you, as the
• 25:39
  Speaker 5: parents be held responsible?
• 25:41
  Speaker 7: Absolutely lock them up?
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: I agree. I think that.
• 25:47
  Speaker 10: I think it's a nuanced I think in those situations
• 25:50
  Speaker 10: of like those school shootings and things like that, yes,
• 25:55
  Speaker 10: I think for sure, especially especially if if it was
• 25:58
  Speaker 10: one of those things where you didn't take the right precautions,
• 26:02
  Speaker 10: you didn't do the right things.
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, you look the other way. Oh,
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: definitely lock.
• 26:06
  Speaker 8: Them up, especially if you are a repeat offender, Like
• 26:10
  Speaker 8: if you're a kid that's always in some shit and
• 26:12
  Speaker 8: then you finally like murk somebody or hurt somebody, and
• 26:15
  Speaker 8: your parents did not lock them up because I'm the parent,
• 26:19
  Speaker 8: fuck with my kid.
• 26:20
  Speaker 7: I'm locking your mother up and your grandmother because they
• 26:23
  Speaker 7: raised dickheads.
• 26:24
  Speaker 9: I would I would say, no, you don't hold the
• 26:28
  Speaker 9: parents accountable unless you can show that there's like extreme
• 26:32
  Speaker 9: negligence that led to this offense happening. But just on
• 26:36
  Speaker 9: a general like sometimes the kid can just be an
• 26:41
  Speaker 9: outlier and then.
• 26:42
  Speaker 7: You're supposed to lock your kid up.
• 26:45
  Speaker 9: It's a whole nother human being. You could do your
• 26:47
  Speaker 9: best to raise them. But if you're doing all the
• 26:49
  Speaker 9: right things and you're not negligent and they just got
• 26:52
  Speaker 9: some chromostoms missing and they a little bit off in
• 26:55
  Speaker 9: the head, like the parent up for that, you got
• 26:59
  Speaker 9: to get work. I'm sorry about the Cromo soon. I
• 27:02
  Speaker 9: didn't mean it in that way.
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: I just meant, you know, I'm joking.
• 27:06
  Speaker 7: You gotta get them some paperwork.
• 27:07
  Speaker 8: If you think that there's something wrong with your child,
• 27:09
  Speaker 8: if your child has like odd or like some emotional
• 27:12
  Speaker 8: dysregulation or something like that, you can't be that parent like, oh,
• 27:15
  Speaker 8: there's nothing wrong with them.
• 27:16
  Speaker 7: I'm not gonna get them.
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: A value it. Nah.
• 27:18
  Speaker 8: You got to be proactive. If you not proactive, if
• 27:21
  Speaker 8: you're not at them doctor's appointments if you're not trying
• 27:23
  Speaker 8: to get them there. If you not trying, yeah, that's
• 27:25
  Speaker 8: negligent as hell.
• 27:26
  Speaker 7: Lock them up. Who else?
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: I think I think that y'all are looking at this.
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: It's too general the way y'all looking at it. Right,
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: there are some kids, There are some kids, say Trump, Right,
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: when I got into a fight at Hampton University, we
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: were seventeen, he was seventeen years old.
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: He was there.
• 27:46
  Speaker 4: Trump, I said it on this guy.
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: Trump was the last person there stomping on this dude's head,
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: jumping in the air.
• 27:56
  Speaker 4: This niggas six', six he's jumping in the, air his
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: blanky ass jumping on this. Dude, Right and it's like
• 28:06
  Speaker 4: his PARENTS i would think raised.
• 28:08
  Speaker 6: Him.
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: Well never, like what if something happened to that, dude
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: would you now charge his parents for this random action
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: that their child. Did now With, trump with What trum
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: is speaking, ABOUT i kind of do agree with.
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: IT i would look at this as like.
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: Potholes, right if the pothole has never been, reported.
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: It can't be you can't like if you if you
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: fall into.
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: It there's no.
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: Lawsuit but if it's been reported and they were, negligent
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: and fixing. It, yeah there's a, lawsuit, RIGHT i would
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: kind of look at it like. That but you got
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: to kind of be weird, because LIKE i, Said trump
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: was just with his homie and he was just riding
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: with his.
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: Friend and then he just really get his licks in.
• 28:55
  Speaker 7: Agreement BECAUSE i said the same.
• 28:56
  Speaker 8: THING i, said if you are an habitual person that's
• 28:59
  Speaker 8: doing stupid, shit not on like a one off, situation
• 29:02
  Speaker 8: like that's not.
• 29:03
  Speaker 7: Cool and you.
• 29:04
  Speaker 8: Talk about him, university that nigga grown you in, college
• 29:07
  Speaker 8: pack him.
• 29:08
  Speaker 6: UP i wasn't in. COLLEGE i was visiting.
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: High.
• 29:12
  Speaker 8: School trump, says, damn let's go give me the.
• 29:20
  Speaker 7: Case give me the casey.
• 29:22
  Speaker 5: Okay. Yes so a fifteen year old black boy takes
• 29:29
  Speaker 5: his father's keys to the. Car he's there with his
• 29:33
  Speaker 5: friends and he takes the. Keys he the prosecutors say
• 29:41
  Speaker 5: the dad gave the son. Permission the dad, SAYS i
• 29:46
  Speaker 5: did not give him. PERMISSION i just told him to
• 29:48
  Speaker 5: move the car out of the. Driveway, regardless the, son
• 29:52
  Speaker 5: fifteen years, old not, licensed not, permitted drives to his
• 29:56
  Speaker 5: friend's house because the friend needed to get a. Belt
• 29:59
  Speaker 5: they get the. Belt on the way, back fifteen year
• 30:01
  Speaker 5: old decides instead of going straight, home let's go by the.
• 30:05
  Speaker 5: Park he goes by the, park and as he's by this,
• 30:08
  Speaker 5: park he decides to run a stop, sign, accelerates hits
• 30:14
  Speaker 5: a car with a family full of, people including three
• 30:18
  Speaker 5: children and a. Grandmother he kills the grandmother and the three.
• 30:23
  Speaker 7: Children how fucking fast was?
• 30:25
  Speaker 5: He going very fast on a residential. Street son gets,
• 30:29
  Speaker 5: Charged dad gets. Charged, yeah what are your thoughts about?
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: That?
• 30:35
  Speaker 8: Yeah i'm cool with that because at the end of the.
• 30:39
  Speaker 7: Day first of, all that is.
• 30:40
  Speaker 8: Negligent why are you giving your keys to a fifteen
• 30:43
  Speaker 8: year old talking about move the car out the? Driveway
• 30:46
  Speaker 8: are you incapable go move your fucking?
• 30:49
  Speaker 7: Car?
• 30:50
  Speaker 8: Why he don't got no? Permit this, nay don't have no?
• 30:53
  Speaker 8: License he don't. Have and then as a, Parent i'm a.
• 30:58
  Speaker 8: Parent as a, PARENT i know my kids don't fucking.
• 31:01
  Speaker 8: LISTEN i know my kids don't. Listen they're not good,
• 31:05
  Speaker 8: people they, smart they, Cute BUT i know these niggas don't.
• 31:09
  Speaker 8: LISTEN i know IF i, say, yo go in the
• 31:11
  Speaker 8: frizz and get me a, soda but don't get one for.
• 31:16
  Speaker 8: Yourself i'm a fine one in that seven year old's
• 31:18
  Speaker 8: bedroom because she's that's the type of nigga she, is you.
• 31:21
  Speaker 8: UNDERSTAND i know IF i tell the seventeen year, old
• 31:25
  Speaker 8: here's one hundred, dollars buy one thing for, you one
• 31:28
  Speaker 8: thing for, me bring me back my. Change i'm never
• 31:31
  Speaker 8: seeing that change.
• 31:32
  Speaker 7: AGAIN i know my.
• 31:33
  Speaker 8: Kids so you mean to tell me that you ain't
• 31:36
  Speaker 8: realize that this nigga was going when he was just
• 31:38
  Speaker 8: supposed to move the car a couple?
• 31:39
  Speaker 7: Inches why is he moving a? Car you know your
• 31:43
  Speaker 7: kid not?
• 31:43
  Speaker 8: Trustworthy you think your kid trustworthy? Enough you will get
• 31:46
  Speaker 8: this nigga took his friend to get a?
• 31:48
  Speaker 7: Belt a?
• 31:50
  Speaker 8: Belt how he get here with no? Belt go back
• 31:54
  Speaker 8: home and get like you? Understand, so, yes there is.
• 31:57
  Speaker 8: Negligence should dad go to jail like? Forever maybe?
• 32:02
  Speaker 5: Not? Okay?
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: What?
• 32:05
  Speaker 7: Yeah come on?
• 32:06
  Speaker 5: Son okay it was for the person who asked the
• 32:10
  Speaker 5: cases In.
• 32:11
  Speaker 7: Florida, Okay i'm.
• 32:12
  Speaker 5: Clear i'm curious to hear more thoughts BECAUSE i have
• 32:15
  Speaker 5: a response to, you particularly about the. Timing how long
• 32:19
  Speaker 5: should each person get if they're? Convicted how long should
• 32:21
  Speaker 5: each person? Get but go, ahead?
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: Please my yesterday's camera went off? Again, okay.
• 32:32
  Speaker 6: Somebody to do a wellness check for?
• 32:35
  Speaker 9: Really so you, know going back to the previous, case
• 32:42
  Speaker 9: even if your intentions is just to commit a little petty,
• 32:47
  Speaker 9: crime a little, robbery but if somebody ends up getting
• 32:49
  Speaker 9: killed because of your initial, crime then unfortunately you're on
• 32:54
  Speaker 9: the hook for. It so If dad gave his keys
• 32:57
  Speaker 9: to a fifteen year old that does not have a,
• 32:59
  Speaker 9: license that was basically an unlawful act right.
• 33:03
  Speaker 6: There he's not legally allowed to move the car out
• 33:07
  Speaker 6: of the.
• 33:07
  Speaker 9: Driveway so whatever happens after, that it's fucked, up you
• 33:11
  Speaker 9: know WHAT i. Mean but it's, like according to the
• 33:14
  Speaker 9: letter of the law that initiated all the other actions
• 33:19
  Speaker 9: that happened after the same, way same thing we was
• 33:21
  Speaker 9: just talking, About, like you handed him the keys and he's,
• 33:25
  Speaker 9: unlicensed and why why does he need to move the
• 33:28
  Speaker 9: car out of the. Driveway what's the point of having
• 33:31
  Speaker 9: a driveway you're gonna move the car out the?
• 33:32
  Speaker 6: Driveway?
• 33:33
  Speaker 5: Leave, well what he. Said what he, said there were
• 33:36
  Speaker 5: two cars at the driveway And dad was the one
• 33:39
  Speaker 5: that was going to take them all to the house
• 33:41
  Speaker 5: to get the, belted so he needed son to move
• 33:45
  Speaker 5: second car out so that father could move first car.
• 33:49
  Speaker 5: Out that's what he. Said but when son moved first
• 33:52
  Speaker 5: car out instead of waiting so he could pull it back,
• 33:55
  Speaker 5: in he, left.
• 33:57
  Speaker 7: And, yo antenna's how long your kid was?
• 34:00
  Speaker 5: On for mad?
• 34:00
  Speaker 8: Long we at mad apps and, shit why you ain't
• 34:02
  Speaker 8: gon get your? Kids did you call your? Kid is
• 34:05
  Speaker 8: there records that say you called like you'll bring your
• 34:07
  Speaker 8: stupid ass home with my?
• 34:08
  Speaker 7: Car none of that. Negligence that nigga probably got high
• 34:11
  Speaker 7: and went to. Sleep, yo why, later, Man?
• 34:17
  Speaker 4: FLORIDA i do want to. Know did we say what this?
• 34:22
  Speaker 4: State the state Is, Florida what is the driving legal
• 34:25
  Speaker 4: driving age In?
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: Florida it don't.
• 34:27
  Speaker 7: Matter he don't have.
• 34:27
  Speaker 5: It it ain't, Fifteen it ain't, fifteen and he didn't.
• 34:30
  Speaker 4: Know it don't.
• 34:31
  Speaker 8: Matter he don't have. Nothing it don't matter even if
• 34:34
  Speaker 8: he was. Eighteen he don't have no.
• 34:35
  Speaker 5: Paperwork it said you can get a learner's permit at
• 34:38
  Speaker 5: fifteen and then sixteen for your actual.
• 34:41
  Speaker 4: License and we know that this person did not have
• 34:44
  Speaker 4: a learner's permit or.
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: Anything she said. It, yeah that's tough because.
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: The move you could have killed that grandmother and kids
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: on that. Block, Right they could have really been right
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: outside that driveway and you could have just ran right into, them,
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: right there with regardless of anything. Else the initial move
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: puts you into the space where you couldn't could have
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: still had the final move. Right the initial move is
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: you giving the, keys telling him to, drive him not
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: being able to drive and killing somebody. Else that it still.
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: Aligns so, yeah the parent needs to be. Charged that's
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: HOW i look at.
• 35:28
  Speaker 7: It and then if.
• 35:29
  Speaker 8: The dad was gonna take you to get the, belt
• 35:31
  Speaker 8: this is What i'm. Saying you gotta know your kids
• 35:33
  Speaker 8: that little bigga bad as. Fuck because if your dad
• 35:36
  Speaker 8: already Said i'm gonna take y'all to go get, it
• 35:38
  Speaker 8: just move this car so we could take this, car
• 35:41
  Speaker 8: why would? You and your intent is, like, nah we're
• 35:43
  Speaker 8: gonna go do it ourselves and then we're gonna go
• 35:45
  Speaker 8: to the.
• 35:45
  Speaker 9: Park this story don't add. UP i feel like that's
• 35:50
  Speaker 9: just a defense that they made.
• 35:51
  Speaker 7: Up exactly that what the family, like.
• 35:56
  Speaker 9: The defense that, oh he was just gonna move the first.
• 36:00
  Speaker 9: Car that sounds like they made that up to try
• 36:04
  Speaker 9: to get some lenien. Seeds because that don't make no.
• 36:06
  Speaker 5: Sense so let me how much time do you feel
• 36:10
  Speaker 5: like each person should. Get do you feel like the
• 36:12
  Speaker 5: son should have went all through to? Prison what do
• 36:14
  Speaker 5: you have thoughts on.
• 36:15
  Speaker 7: That how old is he? Fifteen he was? FIFTEEN i
• 36:20
  Speaker 7: need school. RECORDS i know that noble nigga.
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: BAD i know he bad killed four, people.
• 36:25
  Speaker 4: Bro BUT i know he.
• 36:27
  Speaker 8: Bad that's Why i'm trying to figure, out like how?
• 36:28
  Speaker 8: Long like like the little you can't.
• 36:31
  Speaker 4: Say, that, yo what's up with? You the dad is?
• 36:33
  Speaker 4: Smoking the kid?
• 36:34
  Speaker 6: Bad?
• 36:35
  Speaker 4: Like what's? Up any kid does?
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: That any, kid especially a boy kid takes the car
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: and goes for a little joy.
• 36:43
  Speaker 4: Ride that don't mean that they like the the hell.
• 36:45
  Speaker 8: Spawn but, again IF i was already taking you to
• 36:49
  Speaker 8: get the belt.
• 36:51
  Speaker 4: Wo kids at fifteen years, old.
• 36:54
  Speaker 8: And when you know your kid is a, dickhead you
• 36:56
  Speaker 8: don't trust important.
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: SHIT i disagree.
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: Entirely out with. Cars little boy kids take cars and
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: go for joy. Rides it happens all the time.
• 37:11
  Speaker 4: When they're not all. Delinquents some of them are fucking.
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: Judges right, now you think Fucking ralph didn't take somebody's
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: car when he was fucking, FIFTEEN i don't, know, Right,
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: hey come, on, bro we like, bro there are, doctors,
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: engineer scientists and all of that that did dumb shit
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: when they were fucking fifteen years.
• 37:29
  Speaker 8: Old they didn't kill four people when they did it by,
• 37:33
  Speaker 8: mistake through a god you don't, know by. Mistakes through
• 37:37
  Speaker 8: a stop sign is a mistake if you, think you, think,
• 37:41
  Speaker 8: listen lit's.
• 37:41
  Speaker 6: What i'm telling.
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: You you think the acceleration, stopped like when he went
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: through the stop, side he probably had already lost.
• 37:49
  Speaker 4: Control he had probably already lost.
• 37:51
  Speaker 7: Control he wasn't because he never stopped at the.
• 37:54
  Speaker 8: Stop that nigga was probably doing sixty and a fucking
• 37:57
  Speaker 8: thirty and went straight through that stop. Sign because how
• 38:00
  Speaker 8: well you know how hard it is to kill four
• 38:02
  Speaker 8: niggas in a. Car stop playing with, me so, yeah
• 38:06
  Speaker 8: stop playing about, face stop it.
• 38:11
  Speaker 5: Up the two who do you think should have gotten more?
• 38:13
  Speaker 7: Time dad or?
• 38:15
  Speaker 4: SON i.
• 38:15
  Speaker 9: DON'T i don't believe in charging miners as. Adults they're
• 38:21
  Speaker 9: miners for a. Reason they don't have their decision making
• 38:25
  Speaker 9: abilities yet at, fifteen To tahoe's, point at, fifteen he's
• 38:30
  Speaker 9: making fifteen year old, mistakes unfortunately is a very fatal.
• 38:33
  Speaker 9: Mistake but to charge you as an, adult so, YEAH i.
• 38:39
  Speaker 9: Don't rarely DO i ever agree with charging a miner as,
• 38:42
  Speaker 9: Adults so that being.
• 38:43
  Speaker 6: SAID.
• 38:45
  Speaker 9: I would be it's fucked up because four people. Died
• 38:49
  Speaker 9: BUT i would kind of be lenient in both of their.
• 38:52
  Speaker 9: Sentences the, younger the kid go To juvie and the,
• 38:58
  Speaker 9: adult you, know gets time for.
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: Negligence but what's? Time how much is?
• 39:04
  Speaker 6: TIME i don't, know ten, years four for that.
• 39:10
  Speaker 5: For, that ten for the dad and for, that and
• 39:13
  Speaker 5: how much for a son for the.
• 39:15
  Speaker 6: SUN i don't know how juvenile is.
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: Time works out at, eighteen that's. It if you go To,
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: julie you're out of. Eighteen, YEAH i, mean at the
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: end of the, day it was a horrible. MISTAKE i
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: don't you, know he's a. Kid they're kids for a.
• 39:29
  Speaker 9: Reason you can't drive until you're sixteen or eighteen for a,
• 39:32
  Speaker 9: reason because you can't make those.
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: Decisions i'm giving.
• 39:37
  Speaker 8: Dad five to seven five seven, Given i'm giving a
• 39:45
  Speaker 8: little grands rismo give him like ten and fifteen years
• 39:55
  Speaker 8: to get out when he's like.
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: Thirty before four people, died.
• 40:00
  Speaker 8: Your mom's and all your kids died because little fucking
• 40:03
  Speaker 8: dumb dumb decided that he wanted to get a belt
• 40:06
  Speaker 8: and go to the park and not stop at a stop.
• 40:08
  Speaker 9: Sign it's, unfortunate but you gotta give him ten. Years
• 40:12
  Speaker 9: the dad because four people. Died it's. Unfortunate he didn't mean,
• 40:16
  Speaker 9: it but, bro you can't give him five to seven
• 40:20
  Speaker 9: From mrking four? People, wait he, said he said for. Dad,
• 40:26
  Speaker 9: Say i'm like the dad gotta get more than. That
• 40:28
  Speaker 9: four people got.
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: Killed, yeah you gotta get.
• 40:31
  Speaker 4: Dead no break this down for?
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: Us what? What what do you?
• 40:35
  Speaker 6: Got?
• 40:35
  Speaker 5: OKAY i was trying to find my MY i actually
• 40:38
  Speaker 5: spoke to the son's. LAWYER i had a conversation with.
• 40:42
  Speaker 5: Him he reached out AFTER i covered this. Case the.
• 40:45
  Speaker 5: Father just for, Context dad was sixty nine when this.
• 40:48
  Speaker 5: Happened oh my, god, Seven oh my.
• 40:53
  Speaker 7: God what?
• 40:56
  Speaker 5: Answer so the life that he finishes out that sentence
• 41:01
  Speaker 5: is very. Low all, right, son he gets charged as a.
• 41:06
  Speaker 5: Juvenile he will be out when he is eighteen years.
• 41:09
  Speaker 7: Old get the fuck. Out, now your daddy gotta. Die
• 41:12
  Speaker 7: your daddy gotta die in jail because you. STUPID i
• 41:17
  Speaker 7: fucking hate, kids, BRO i hate. Kids.
• 41:20
  Speaker 8: Bro NOW i gotta do thirty seven with cancer because
• 41:25
  Speaker 8: my son is.
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: Stupid that actually makes.
• 41:28
  Speaker 4: SENSE i will.
• 41:29
  Speaker 7: Curse yo yo.
• 41:31
  Speaker 8: Yo i'm telling, you IF i live to the time
• 41:33
  Speaker 8: my child get out of, Jail i'm.
• 41:34
  Speaker 7: Calling my child every.
• 41:36
  Speaker 8: Day just to call you a stupid, motherfucker AND i
• 41:39
  Speaker 8: want WHEN i, DIE i want you to be, like,
• 41:41
  Speaker 8: yo my dad hated me WHEN i got. WHEN i
• 41:44
  Speaker 8: want you to go to your therapist and say, Like,
• 41:46
  Speaker 8: yo my father really hated my fucking.
• 41:48
  Speaker 7: Gun, yeah you stupid. MOTHERFUCKER i love, you you stupid.
• 41:54
  Speaker 4: Bitch what about?
• 41:56
  Speaker 9: ACCOUNTABILITY i handed your stupid as the. Keys, nah, son
• 42:00
  Speaker 9: that's adult in this. Situation sixty nine.
• 42:05
  Speaker 4: Years.
• 42:05
  Speaker 6: Old what does that have to do with the? Sentencing
• 42:09
  Speaker 6: how Old.
• 42:09
  Speaker 7: I'm, tired, ye son?
• 42:15
  Speaker 6: Myself, YEAH i had you WHEN i was from.
• 42:18
  Speaker 4: Four.
• 42:20
  Speaker 9: Y'all y'all aren't even considering WHEN i, came when you was.
• 42:23
  Speaker 9: Born y'all aren't considering the other. Family like if you
• 42:26
  Speaker 9: was in court and had to hear the other family
• 42:28
  Speaker 9: talk about four of their family members getting.
• 42:31
  Speaker 7: Killed that little motherfucker the thirty. Seven let me.
• 42:34
  Speaker 5: Tell, You let me tell you to your, Point so
• 42:38
  Speaker 5: the vehicle actually was it was a, grandmother her, husband
• 42:42
  Speaker 5: so grandpa and then the three grandchildren were in the
• 42:44
  Speaker 5: back when the mother of the kids and the daughter
• 42:49
  Speaker 5: of grandma right because she lost her mother and her
• 42:52
  Speaker 5: kids when she took the. STAND i don't think i've
• 42:55
  Speaker 5: ever cried that hard in my. Life it was the
• 42:58
  Speaker 5: most heartbreaking Thing i've ever. Heard SHE i, mean you
• 43:01
  Speaker 5: could feel her pain and talking about losing all of
• 43:06
  Speaker 5: these people on the same. Day and Then, grandpa who
• 43:09
  Speaker 5: is in the car, right he now has survivor's. Guilt
• 43:12
  Speaker 5: he takes the stand and talks about how he had
• 43:15
  Speaker 5: retired one year, earlier so he was finally looking forward
• 43:19
  Speaker 5: to spending time with his grand bring a grandfather and
• 43:22
  Speaker 5: being with his, wife and then he loses them one
• 43:25
  Speaker 5: year after. Retiring it was the most heartbreaking THING i
• 43:29
  Speaker 5: have ever heard in my. Life AND i STILL i
• 43:33
  Speaker 5: will SAY i felt their testimony brought me back to
• 43:37
  Speaker 5: reality of like, you but you participated in these people
• 43:42
  Speaker 5: losing their. Family BUT i was very conflicted Because, dad
• 43:48
  Speaker 5: he said he, didn't you, know give her mission to the.
• 43:50
  Speaker 5: Kid but, Regardless i'm sure he. Did he his, expectation
• 43:55
  Speaker 5: even if he gave the, kids was that son was
• 43:57
  Speaker 5: going to go to this house and come, back, Right
• 44:01
  Speaker 5: that's what you're supposed to. Do sun does something completely
• 44:04
  Speaker 5: different than. That but, you as the adult who has
• 44:07
  Speaker 5: had life experience to your point day that has you
• 44:10
  Speaker 5: know your, kids you are supposed to know, better and
• 44:13
  Speaker 5: so it. WAS i was very conflicted about that. Case
• 44:16
  Speaker 5: but SO i think all of you guys' points are
• 44:19
  Speaker 5: very valid and all of the things that it.
• 44:21
  Speaker 7: Was, crazy that's.
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: Crazy first of, ALL i just want to, Say yesterday
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: still hasn't come.
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: BACK i, know so we already know that this is not.
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: Good so let's pray For yesterday and hope that he's
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: not chasing a robber.
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: Or anything of this.
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: Sort BUT i just want to say to anybody that
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: is In, atlanta in any of the neighboring, states y'all
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: see the type of fundness.
• 44:49
  Speaker 3: Is this is an amazing. Episode thank. You this is the.
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: First episode of its kind of so shameless that we've ever.
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: Done hopefully you can do at least one. MORE i
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: know you had a if we can do one more at,
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: least but go on over to That i'm not a
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: Lawyer instagram. Page she has one more. Show one of
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: them is sold out. Already she has another. SHOW i
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: believe it's the nighttime. Show it's a seven o'clock show
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: that still has a few tickets left right For august.
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: Second i'll be. There she this is amazing content for
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: what that people are putting out now you are.
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: Amazing thank you so.
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: Much Mel AND i feel bad bro thirty nine years
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: because your kid did some. Bullshit it's. Crazy AND i
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: keep telling, y'all motherfuckers don't have fucking.
• 45:42
  Speaker 3: KIDS i keep.
• 45:43
  Speaker 4: Telling me Because, bro you're, sixty you live your life.
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: Sixty nine years and gotta go to jail for the
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: rest of your, life jail your grandmother and grandfather that
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: lived your life all this, time and some fifteen year
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: old idiot comes and kills, you not your, off, yeah
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: or just makes you aw a widower that's.
• 46:08
  Speaker 4: Crazy and these three, Kids.
• 46:12
  Speaker 3: God bless mail what you? Got all?
• 46:15
  Speaker 5: Right last, One i'll just tell you guys the. STORY
• 46:19
  Speaker 5: i won't ask you my generic. Question i'll tell you
• 46:21
  Speaker 5: guys the story and then get your. Thoughts so, a
• 46:24
  Speaker 5: this trial actually starts next. Week it's WHEN i am
• 46:27
  Speaker 5: ramping up to start. Following but the background is this
• 46:31
  Speaker 5: woman killed her three children and then jumped out of
• 46:39
  Speaker 5: a window in an attempt to take her own. Life
• 46:43
  Speaker 5: she didn't succeed in taking her own, life her kids,
• 46:46
  Speaker 5: die but she ended up being permanently paralyzed from her
• 46:53
  Speaker 5: neck down because of The she took a bunch of
• 46:56
  Speaker 5: medicine and jumped out so, immediately and a lot of
• 47:00
  Speaker 5: the commentary is already, like first of, all kids cases
• 47:04
  Speaker 5: automatically break my. Heart they are always a lot for.
• 47:06
  Speaker 5: Me And i'm, like why would a mother kill her?
• 47:07
  Speaker 5: Kids background, though that is worth, Noting and what is
• 47:11
  Speaker 5: her defense in the case is after she had her third,
• 47:16
  Speaker 5: child so her children are all about two years. Apart
• 47:18
  Speaker 5: after she had her last, child she started experiencing postpartum. Depression,
• 47:24
  Speaker 5: okay she is initially doing and saying things like waking
• 47:29
  Speaker 5: up at four o'clock not to feed her, kids but
• 47:31
  Speaker 5: to go on a three mile run to do aerobics
• 47:34
  Speaker 5: to Do she's, like, not she's being very. Weird and
• 47:37
  Speaker 5: then she starts not being able to get out of.
• 47:39
  Speaker 5: Bed she's, like clearly experiencing post part of. Depression she
• 47:42
  Speaker 5: starts communicating to her doctors and to her, HUSBAND i
• 47:45
  Speaker 5: don't feel. Well she also was a labor and delivery
• 47:48
  Speaker 5: nurse for nine, years so she has experienced babies and
• 47:51
  Speaker 5: all of this kind of. Things she starts communicating that
• 47:54
  Speaker 5: she doesn't feel. WELL i think something is off. Right
• 47:56
  Speaker 5: she goes to start saying a, doctor they start giving
• 47:58
  Speaker 5: her antidepressants to try and help and address. This stuff
• 48:02
  Speaker 5: doesn't get. Better she's, communicating Now i'm starting to hear.
• 48:05
  Speaker 5: Voices they're telling me to harm. Myself nobody's doing anything her.
• 48:09
  Speaker 5: Doctor they're changing out her medication or increasing the. Dosage
• 48:12
  Speaker 5: all of, this, right it gets so bad that she,
• 48:16
  Speaker 5: says now the voices are telling me to harm my.
• 48:18
  Speaker 5: CHILDREN i need to go see. Somebody so she goes
• 48:20
  Speaker 5: and checks herself. In she admits herself into a mental health. Facility.
• 48:24
  Speaker 5: Okay she stays there for a couple of, days and
• 48:26
  Speaker 5: then she is released under the direction that she should
• 48:29
  Speaker 5: not be. Alone that's what the doctor's. Say she is
• 48:33
  Speaker 5: still on. Medication it's not getting any. Better january twenty,
• 48:37
  Speaker 5: fourth twenty twenty three. Comes she's not well and she
• 48:44
  Speaker 5: does some errands throughout the, day and in the, evening
• 48:48
  Speaker 5: she tells her. Husband they're having a discussion about. Dinner
• 48:51
  Speaker 5: it's agreed that husband is going to go to pick up.
• 48:55
  Speaker 5: Dinner so he leaves the house and he leaves her
• 48:58
  Speaker 5: with the. Children she is, saying when dad, left she
• 49:03
  Speaker 5: heard the. Voices they got really. Loud they, said now
• 49:06
  Speaker 5: it's your time kill the, children so you can kill,
• 49:08
  Speaker 5: yourself and so that is what ends up. Happening so
• 49:11
  Speaker 5: she is now starting trial next. Week, obviously she's been
• 49:14
  Speaker 5: charged with the murder of her three. Children her defense
• 49:18
  Speaker 5: is that number one insanity but, secondly but, SECONDLY i
• 49:24
  Speaker 5: expressed THAT i, was, well the doctors should have done
• 49:29
  Speaker 5: something and basically my husband shouldn't have left.
• 49:31
  Speaker 7: Me yeah, yeah like no that She, no this is
• 49:41
  Speaker 7: gonna sound, Crazy, yeah BECAUSE i.
• 49:42
  Speaker 3: WOULDN'T i want to know.
• 49:44
  Speaker 8: It's gonna sound, Crazy, like, no, no this sounds so.
• 49:51
  Speaker 5: Crazy let me say, that keep your thought To the
• 49:55
  Speaker 5: prosecutors are saying that it's actually. Premeditatee that she planned
• 49:58
  Speaker 5: for her husband to lee so that she can do.
• 50:00
  Speaker 5: THAT i should say. That they are saying that this was.
• 50:03
  Speaker 5: Intentional she wanted him to leave so.
• 50:05
  Speaker 8: That she the voices told, her like, yo get him
• 50:08
  Speaker 8: about of here and his stupid, ass you're gonna leave
• 50:10
  Speaker 8: her with? You why would you leave crazy people with your?
• 50:13
  Speaker 8: Kids but how all?
• 50:14
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 50:14
  Speaker 7: Cool so no kill your own?
• 50:21
  Speaker 4: Kids?
• 50:21
  Speaker 5: Right?
• 50:22
  Speaker 3: No? No, no all, right all, right don't make me.
• 50:29
  Speaker 8: Laugh don't make me laugh, stop cause like who's really hurt?
• 50:33
  Speaker 8: Here like why you said it me? To like LIKE
• 50:36
  Speaker 8: i don't think that she should go to jail because
• 50:38
  Speaker 8: like they they hers you, understand like if you kill,
• 50:40
  Speaker 8: somebody you hear.
• 50:41
  Speaker 4: Yourself you are you hearing the?
• 50:46
  Speaker 8: Voices now, listen, Listen i'm mentally. Unwell everybody knows That
• 50:52
  Speaker 8: i'm mentally. UNWELL i already did. EVERYTHING i tried to help,
• 50:57
  Speaker 8: myself my husband and check me in the, ship and
• 51:00
  Speaker 8: LIKE i had to get up in half of my
• 51:03
  Speaker 8: brain that's working, correctly had to try to get me
• 51:06
  Speaker 8: to get the other half to work correct and it's not.
• 51:09
  Speaker 7: Working if, you as the.
• 51:11
  Speaker 8: Same, person know that you should Not you should have
• 51:14
  Speaker 8: went and got the food and took the kids with,
• 51:16
  Speaker 8: you but you didn't do.
• 51:19
  Speaker 7: That you left me alone when you knew. That i'm
• 51:22
  Speaker 7: telling you these things that.
• 51:23
  Speaker 8: Happen i'm telling, You i'm having these, voices like at
• 51:26
  Speaker 8: the end of the, DAY i don't think that she
• 51:27
  Speaker 8: should go to, jail AND i do think that the
• 51:30
  Speaker 8: husband for, me if somebody is gonna go down for,
• 51:33
  Speaker 8: it it gotta be the husband for, negligence Because i'm
• 51:35
  Speaker 8: thinking this is one of them situations when you like
• 51:39
  Speaker 8: a married single mother type, shit because it's like why
• 51:42
  Speaker 8: would you why would you leave a crazy would you
• 51:45
  Speaker 8: leave a crazy person in the house with your kids
• 51:47
  Speaker 8: that said.
• 51:48
  Speaker 7: That they got thoughts of killing your.
• 51:49
  Speaker 8: Babies NOT i wouldn't leave that motherfucker in the house
• 51:52
  Speaker 8: with my baby for.
• 51:53
  Speaker 7: Nothing, actually she wouldn't even live in a house with my.
• 51:56
  Speaker 8: Babies she would be locked up somewhere in a padded
• 51:59
  Speaker 8: room until you get you a ship.
• 52:00
  Speaker 7: Together you're gonna leave, her and especially you know how
• 52:03
  Speaker 7: long it takes to kill three?
• 52:05
  Speaker 4: Kids, no, no what the?
• 52:09
  Speaker 3: Hospital why did she kill the three? Kids you don't.
• 52:11
  Speaker 7: Matter take a, minute go.
• 52:12
  Speaker 3: At how does she kill the three?
• 52:14
  Speaker 5: Kids them with a one of the workout? Bands you know,
• 52:23
  Speaker 5: them all three of them that?
• 52:24
  Speaker 7: Way how old are the? Kids?
• 52:28
  Speaker 5: Eight? Nope six four and like eighteen? Months the baby is.
• 52:34
  Speaker 7: Different you gotta you gotta she.
• 52:38
  Speaker 3: Gotta be faster than.
• 52:39
  Speaker 7: THAT i didn't say that out.
• 52:43
  Speaker 3: Loud that's.
• 52:45
  Speaker 8: Crazy if you see me murking your, yo you gotta
• 52:50
  Speaker 8: get the fuck out of the fight or, flight get,
• 52:53
  Speaker 8: out help.
• 52:54
  Speaker 7: Police so she.
• 52:56
  Speaker 5: Has she's also filed a lawsuit against her doctors for
• 53:00
  Speaker 5: medical malpractice because they did not properly diagnose Her number.
• 53:04
  Speaker 5: One turns out that she actually had version of bipolar,
• 53:11
  Speaker 5: disorder and when you are given anti the presence when
• 53:15
  Speaker 5: it actually it makes it. Worse and so what her,
• 53:19
  Speaker 5: team her team is arguing that it was medical. Malpractice
• 53:23
  Speaker 5: they didn't properly diagnosed, her made her situation, worse and
• 53:26
  Speaker 5: it resulted in her doing.
• 53:27
  Speaker 7: THIS i don't think you should go to.
• 53:30
  Speaker 9: JAIL i think everybody going to. JAIL i think the
• 53:36
  Speaker 9: dad going to the husband going to, jail the wife
• 53:39
  Speaker 9: is going to, jail and the people that released them
• 53:42
  Speaker 9: from the. Facility so maybe the people that released them
• 53:45
  Speaker 9: from the, facility they may not go to, jail but
• 53:47
  Speaker 9: they should be found guilty in civil, charges like you,
• 53:49
  Speaker 9: said because that's you, know to release somebody under the
• 53:54
  Speaker 9: conditions that they have to be. Supervised that's the whole
• 53:59
  Speaker 9: point of a facilit is you are supervised twenty four
• 54:02
  Speaker 9: hours once you release them outside of the. Facility like
• 54:06
  Speaker 9: there's no, Husband there's no human being that has the
• 54:08
  Speaker 9: capacity to supervise another adult twenty four to. Seven it's
• 54:13
  Speaker 9: just not. Realistic so, YEAH i think that they, are you,
• 54:18
  Speaker 9: know liable. HERE i think the husband is liable because
• 54:21
  Speaker 9: he agreed to the conditional discharge and then went out
• 54:24
  Speaker 9: the crib without the left the kids.
• 54:26
  Speaker 6: There, no BUT i don't let her off the hook.
• 54:29
  Speaker 3: Entirely, No i'm, crazy that's not How, No.
• 54:34
  Speaker 6: I'm crazy or. Not you're getting some of these charges.
• 54:36
  Speaker 4: Too no y'all think y'all are you still did?
• 54:40
  Speaker 3: It are all? Nuts your answers are? Crazy.
• 54:43
  Speaker 4: Okay if.
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: This person has told You i'm thinking about killing myself
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: and my, Children i'm telling YOU i might kill my,
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: kids you cannot now put me as like a security
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: guard to stop somebody from. Killing i'm not a police
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: to a police, office, Sir i'm not a.
• 55:07
  Speaker 4: POLICE i sleep.
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: Like how AM i supposed this person is telling You
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: i'm going to murder?
• 55:14
  Speaker 4: People how is that my job to?
• 55:17
  Speaker 8: Stop you should have never let her back in your.
• 55:20
  Speaker 8: House that would have never been back in my.
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: House the court, system the mental health system is fucked
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: in this.
• 55:28
  Speaker 6: Country we know.
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: That if you just go get on THE a, train
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: you can, tell if you go get on the martyr In,
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: atlanta you can.
• 55:34
  Speaker 3: Tell the fucking mental health system is.
• 55:37
  Speaker 4: Fucked we're not putting enough money into.
• 55:39
  Speaker 3: It at the end of the, day.
• 55:41
  Speaker 4: This man and it's coming and. Going she could have
• 55:45
  Speaker 4: been good one day and not good than.
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: NUTS i supposed to know what the fucking McDonald's, ude
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: what what the? Bro you, can't, Yo and then that
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: dementia ship if y'all ever dealt with people like, that
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: may be good one day and then they not good the, next,
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: Bro and it could be one. Moment so it's kind
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: of messed up that we're talking. About he got to
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: go to jail when she was probably, herself and she,
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: like what the? Fuck and then the doctors is telling
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: them certain. Shit, Now, okay she's not to be left.
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: ALONE i get, IT i get, IT i get. IT
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: i get them not to be left, alone but not
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: left alone Or i'm.
• 56:25
  Speaker 4: Going to kill these.
• 56:26
  Speaker 3: Children.
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: YEP i don't see that like, That. Yo if you
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: leave her, alone she's gonna kill your. KIDS i don't
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: see that as like what was being told to him
• 56:38
  Speaker 2: or what his understanding of this situation, was because if, so.
• 56:43
  Speaker 4: He probably shouldn't be. Liable it's the fucking mental. Place
• 56:50
  Speaker 4: what do you?
• 56:50
  Speaker 7: Mean but as a?
• 56:52
  Speaker 8: Parent, right you mean to tell me that if somebody said,
• 56:55
  Speaker 8: Understandable if let's say somebody doesn't, SAY i you, can't
• 57:00
  Speaker 8: you can't be alone with your. Kids If i'm telling
• 57:03
  Speaker 8: You i'm having these, Ideations i'm having homicidal ideations and suicidal.
• 57:08
  Speaker 8: Ideations i'm sorry you're locked in the basement like on
• 57:13
  Speaker 8: some bubble ship from the, wire like like there is
• 57:16
  Speaker 8: no fucking way that you're just freely walk ask. YOU
• 57:20
  Speaker 8: i don't care if you yourself today TO i don't
• 57:23
  Speaker 8: care if you've been yourself for. ME I i don't
• 57:26
  Speaker 8: play like that when it.
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: After you're coming after the original.
• 57:31
  Speaker 3: Offense the original.
• 57:32
  Speaker 4: Offense is you're letting me.
• 57:34
  Speaker 2: Out you're not supposed to let me If i'm telling,
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: You i'm gonna kill the mother bunch of, people ill
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: all these people over.
• 57:41
  Speaker 4: Here you know? What you want to make sure you
• 57:44
  Speaker 4: don't kill all those, people because.
• 57:47
  Speaker 7: You're absolutely.
• 57:48
  Speaker 8: Right and ONCE i see that these motherfuckers is willing
• 57:51
  Speaker 8: to let her crazy ass, Out bet you not coming
• 57:54
  Speaker 8: in my. House don't kill. Somebody go stay with your.
• 57:56
  Speaker 8: Mother go do that shit at your mom's. House so
• 57:59
  Speaker 8: do that shit is your grand mother. House but you're
• 58:01
  Speaker 8: not sitting in here with my.
• 58:02
  Speaker 9: Babies so tell her you don't think the husband has
• 58:04
  Speaker 9: any liability?
• 58:06
  Speaker 4: Here NO i, Know, NO i.
• 58:09
  Speaker 6: Don't what if he agreed to the conditional release that
• 58:12
  Speaker 6: he was going to supervise.
• 58:14
  Speaker 3: Her train fours?
• 58:15
  Speaker 7: Crazy how crazy conditional release.
• 58:22
  Speaker 5: Right?
• 58:22
  Speaker 6: Exactly why would you agree to that? Ship you know
• 58:24
  Speaker 6: you can't do.
• 58:25
  Speaker 7: THAT i THINK i think this is this is one
• 58:27
  Speaker 7: of thold.
• 58:28
  Speaker 8: THESE i think this is one of those mothers versus
• 58:30
  Speaker 8: father's thing Because i'm telling, you, Sons i'm telling, you
• 58:34
  Speaker 8: there is no fucking.
• 58:37
  Speaker 7: Way there's no fucking way as a, mother ain't no.
• 58:41
  Speaker 8: Fucking even if you you you had a homicidal ideation
• 58:44
  Speaker 8: about my baby, once, nigga get the fuck. Out don't
• 58:49
  Speaker 8: kill everybody at your mother, House mark. Dumb i'll be
• 58:53
  Speaker 8: a character. WITNESS i got. You i'm gonna sit on
• 58:55
  Speaker 8: your side at the. Court are you fucking? Crazy you're
• 58:59
  Speaker 8: thinking about one of my babies in yourself And i'm
• 59:02
  Speaker 8: going to leave you to what my babies is dead right?
• 59:04
  Speaker 7: Now BECAUSE i wanted to go Get chinese? Food are
• 59:07
  Speaker 7: you fucking?
• 59:08
  Speaker 5: Crazy, NO i was going to answer some of the.
• 59:13
  Speaker 5: Questions it is In. Massachusetts they are. White he is
• 59:20
  Speaker 5: apparently moved on and has a new wife or a
• 59:24
  Speaker 5: new woman in his.
• 59:25
  Speaker 7: Life AND i said she was a single married a
• 59:30
  Speaker 7: single married.
• 59:31
  Speaker 5: Mother and then there was something ELSE i was going
• 59:35
  Speaker 5: to say THAT i just don't, remember but, yeah that
• 59:38
  Speaker 5: case is. Is LIKE i, said starting next, week it
• 59:41
  Speaker 5: is one THAT i think it's going to be, interesting
• 59:42
  Speaker 5: just because of the insanity. Defense you don't hear those very,
• 59:45
  Speaker 5: often and even if you hear, them they don't really. Succeed,
• 59:49
  Speaker 5: THIS i think is going to be. Interesting i'm expecting
• 59:52
  Speaker 5: a ton of, experts, obviously to take the stand and
• 59:55
  Speaker 5: testify about her mental. Condition how you know her mental?
• 59:59
  Speaker 5: Health that's WHAT i. Anticipate but you, know we'll. SEE
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 5: i just have a.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 6: Charge is the husband being? Talked?
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 2: No, no you living his life from what you know
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: of studying all these. Cases, yes give me a guess
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: of what you think happens and how much, time if,
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 2: any she would.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 5: GET i think she's going to get the. INSANITY i
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 5: think they're going to find her not guilty by reason of.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 5: Insanity and the REASON i personally would be okay with.
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 5: That i'm also a mother AND i have experienced postpartum.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 5: Depression she has postpartum. PSYCHOSISTS i didn't have, that but.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 5: THERE i THINK i think they're going because there is
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 5: so much evidence of her trying to help herself and
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 5: not getting her not being a, doctor so she's not
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 5: able to articulate what she, needs she needs somebody to tell,
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 5: her and the doctors miss. THAT i THINK i could have.
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 5: Maddened there's also the jury is including. Alternats it's twelve
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 5: women and seven. MEN i think that that take a
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 5: play in that as. WELL i think women may be
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 5: able to identify with what she wished. Through So i'm
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 5: anticipating that she's going to be not guilty by reason of.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 5: Insanity but the thing to understand about an insanity plea
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 5: is that it means you don't go to. Prison it
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 5: means you go to a mental health.
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 4: Boss.
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 5: Right it doesn't mean you just live your life and
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 5: you're just. Out it means you were insane and so
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 5: to help get you. Better instead of serving a sentence,
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 5: there you'll be here until the judge decides or there
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 5: is records to show that you are healthier and so
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 5: that you can now enter back into the.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 8: World when she paralized from the neck down and shit
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 8: like in, jail she don't need to go to.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 7: Jail go to jail for what that.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 5: Is that's WHAT i think will. Happen there is a
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 5: case that is years old where a woman had a
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 5: bunch of kids and she didn't want to have no mo,
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 5: kids but her husband kept knocking her. Up it was
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 5: like a religious thing as. Well he started articulating that
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 5: she wasn't well and he was, told don't leave her
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 5: with your kids. Alone he left her thought that it
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 5: was a. Documentary she drowned her five. Children she ended
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 5: up getting. Convicted, however she, appealed got a new trial
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 5: and was found not guilty by reason of. Insanity so
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 5: and her retrout she was not guilty the first one
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 5: she was sent that she was. Guilty SO i, think
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 5: AND i think WE i, think you, know research has
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 5: come so far from that case THAT i think the
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 5: experts will probably be able to get a jury to
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 5: understand or. Seen so that's WHAT i. Expect i've been
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 5: wrong many times, though and that's Why i'm going to
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 5: be tapped in Because i'm, like how is this gonna play?
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 9: OUT i got a, question what what floor does she
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 9: jump out?
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 5: OF i think it was the Second see that's.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 6: A, mistake you're going to jump out of the tekend.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 6: Floor she.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 9: Took mm hmm jump out the second floor window to
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 9: her to. Merge but what state was this In?
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 2: Massachusetts maybe they didn't have a third floor Tro i'm
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 2: just saying it's just poor planning at this, point because
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 2: now you're fucked.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 9: Up imagine you try to kill yourself and you just
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 9: laying there, paralyzed right there in that in.
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 5: That courtroom in a. Wheelchair every day they wheel her
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 5: in and will her.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 2: Out now To tony it talking about it's. Sad but
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 2: she told that man she didn't want no. Kids like
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 2: how many times niggas told, y'all ain't want no kids?
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 3: Now it's?
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: Sad please, nobody don't give a fuck about.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 7: That you're not a good.
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 2: Person what how many times niggas can told y'all we
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 2: don't want no kids.
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 8: Now ain't, murky, y'all big head of azzed. Babies so
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 8: that's What i'll be talking, about. Y'all don't y'all not grateful,
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 8: enough y'all not thankful.
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 4: ENOUGH i just find this, like, yo, bro this is.
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 4: Yo men are bad.
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 7: People i'll say it. Once i'll say. It you men
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 7: are bad. People. MAN i don't. Care fuck.
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 3: It, yeah amazing ass.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 2: EPISODE i, do Mel if you have a couple more,
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 2: MINUTES i do have one other case That i'd like to. Present,
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 2: okay the case of the. Assault, uh this is crazy
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 2: on The, harlem. Crackhead do y'all know That dodge beat
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 2: a person.
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 6: Up the other?
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 2: Day put her hands on somebody and whip them to the.
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 4: GROUND i, did And i'll do it. Again Mel why
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 4: are you so excited about?
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 6: This?
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 8: MORE i keep telling your men are bad. People i'm
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 8: gonna start this story by saying men are bad.
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 3: People they're.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 5: Not?
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 6: Okay is it all right to admit to?
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 4: CRIME i don't give a fuck right.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 8: NOW i promise you come get me aggravated assault like
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 8: a mother the. Fucker come getting, me AND i stand
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 8: ten toes down on that.
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 7: SHIT i don't give a. Fuck so context context is.
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 8: IMPORTANT, i as some of you guys, know like, LISTENERS
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 8: i love my black women. DOCTORS i don't want white
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 8: people touching. ME i don't want white people around. Me
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 8: you're not gonna stick me with nothing. Nothing my g
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 8: Y n is a black, Woman my therapist is a black.
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 8: Woman MY pcp is a black. Woman LIKE i, DON'T i,
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 8: CAN'T i just will. Not so because of, that my,
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 8: doctor my original doctor's office was In Midtown, manhattan and
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 8: they moved her up To harlem a couple of years.
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 8: Ago but black woman doctor is very hard for me
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 8: to find, one especially one That i'm like attached. To
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 8: SO i travel To harlem at least once a year
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 8: to go get my annual and go see my. Doctor
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 8: so this week was time for my. Appointment so me
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 8: And parker we went on an. Excursion context for, you,
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 8: MAIL i live In, jersey BUT i traveled To New
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 8: york obviously To harlem to for this doctor's. Appointment and
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 8: me and my, kid my daughter's, seven my youngest at,
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 8: least she's, seven and we're having a good old, time
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 8: like we're having a grand. Time so we're taking a
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 8: train And i'm realizing because thinking about it from the
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 8: thought process of an, EDUCATOR i was, LIKE i think
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 8: That parker thinks when we take the, TRAIN i just.
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 7: Know Where i'm. Going so it was a teachable moment
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 7: AND i was, Like, hey.
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 8: So we're about to take this. Train this is the color,
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 8: train these are the. Numbers SO i want you to
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 8: help mommy navigate BECAUSE i think you THINK i just
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 8: know Where i'm, going but in my, Brain i'm actually
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 8: reading the signs and figuring out where to. Go so
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 8: we're having a good old, time like we. Navigating she's,
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 8: like all, right we're gonna take this. Training we gotta
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 8: get up here and get to this. One take two, stops.
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 8: Toda so we navigated there and. Back just a little
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 8: learning lesson from my. Baby so we get To. Harlem
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 8: it was pouring, raining cats and dogs that. Did so
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 8: we get To harlem AND i get to my doctor's.
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 8: OFFICE i don't particularly like this new, location but, AGAIN
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 8: i love my. Doctor so we're At harlem and we
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 8: get to the doctor's office and the doctor's like the
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 8: building is like three. Floors the second floor is the
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 8: floor where my doctor. Is the third floor is a,
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 8: obgym but it's also a rehabilitation center on the third.
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 8: Floor that contact. Matters so we get, in we say
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 8: hello to the security. Guard we get in the. Elevator
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 8: some man comes in behind us very much looking drugged
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 8: out or, whatever and he's talking to the security guard
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 8: and she was, like, yeah like you've been here. Before
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 8: you go on to the third, floor, right and he's,
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 8: like get second. Floor whatever the fuck he's. Said so
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 8: he gets on the. Elevator now it's the three of
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 8: us on the, elevator doors. Closed my intended is already growing. Up,
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 8: Mom i'm in protection. Mode i'm always thinking about my.
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 8: Kid first, park she pressed two on the. Elevator he's,
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 8: like press, two press, two and then he goes over
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 8: and he presses two, again and he goes back in
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 8: the corner and then he presses.
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 7: THREE i peet whatever.
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 8: Again, naturally When i'm with my, KID i don't think about.
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 8: Myself i'm only thinking about my. Kid so the elevator
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 8: door is, open AND i make sure my kid gets
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 8: out the elevator.
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 7: First so she gets out the.
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 8: Elevator AS i turn around to get out the, elevator
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 8: he touches my.
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 7: Ass m.
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 6: Hm.
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 7: SEE i think that a lot of.
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 8: PEOPLE i don't think people understand how emotionally REGULATED i.
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 8: Am in heightened. Situations mommi mode is. ON i, said all, right,
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 8: COOL i had an ice coffee on my. HAND i
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 8: tell my, BABY i, said, hey take this ice. COFFEE
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 8: i was, LIKE i want you to stand to the
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 8: side of the. Elevator she's, seven because, Kids.
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 7: She's, like huh WHAT i. Said, no baby stands to
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 7: the side of the, elevator and she's, like. OKAY i
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 7: turned back.
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 8: Around and WHEN i, SAY i beat the dog shit
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 8: out of. THAT i beat that man into the corner
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 8: of the elevator with my.
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 7: UMBRELLA i would.
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 8: Because and then Because i'm, Black i'm, black, Mother like
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 8: what the fuck made you?
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 7: Think? Like what made you?
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 5: Think?
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 4: Yo but?
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  Speaker 7: Love what made you?
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 8: Think have you lost your fucking? Mind And i'm like
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 8: wailing on his shit whole doctor's office full. Brink everybody
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 8: is just like you can hear a pin drop in that.
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 8: Hole AND i take a step back AND i look
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 8: at my. BABY i, said don't, worry, Baby mammy's.
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 7: Fine go.
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 8: Back WHEN i, say this sninker is like in the,
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 8: corner like.
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 7: Like you've lost your mother fucking. Mind you've lost your.
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 7: Mind and the only the only reason.
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 8: Why it ain't take heaven And earth to get me
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 8: up off his, ass it is because my baby is.
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 7: There because if my baby wasn't.
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 8: There the, whole the whole doctor's office would have had
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 8: me get up off of.
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 7: Me BUT i got up off them on my.
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 8: Own AND i turned around and one of the receptionist
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 8: comes up to me and she's, like are you?
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 7: Okay what's going? ON i, said oh, no he touched my.
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 8: Eyes But i'm good, now just a little street justice
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 8: AND i AND i AND i AND i start logging
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 8: in on the.
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 7: KIOSKIT i look at. IT i, Said i'm.
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 8: Sorry, EVERYBODY i apologize to the. Room don't or don't
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 8: don't be, alarmed be. Good but LIKE i am, shaking,
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 8: RIGHT i am. Hot but, again and this goes back
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 8: to the other story when we talk about emotional, REGULATION
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 8: i know THAT i have to, Regulate LIKE i cannot
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 8: go ape.
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 7: SHIT i can't be mad at.
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 8: EVERYBODY i can't be cursing everybody because this is not everybody.
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 7: Problem this is a me and this person's type of a.
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 8: Situation AND i had to, regulate and it was so
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 8: hard for, me like taking deep, breaths and then people
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 8: coming and like like supervisors and everybody's coming to check
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 8: up on. Me and even in that, moment the supervis
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 8: like what? Happened can you tell me what? HAPPENED i was,
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 8: like find me a, ROOM i, Said, parker sit right.
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 7: Here movie, Back.
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 8: Because, again now this is an adult. CONVERSATION i gotta
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 8: go in a. BAG i gotta Tell i'm not gonna
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 8: redo the story in front of my kid or. Whatever but,
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 8: yeah it. Was it was a Bad it was a bad.
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 8: Day it was a bad day for several. Reasons, one
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 8: there's a lot of realizations That i've had. Afterwards the
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 8: one realization THAT i have is like my family and
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 8: friends are, like, Yo i'm proud of. You you did
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 8: what you had to, do like you Show parker boundaries.
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 8: Whatever But i'm very intentionally trying to raise not a sheltered,
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 8: kid but a more suburban LIKE i moved out Of
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 8: New york AFTER i have.
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 7: My kid for a.
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 8: Reason there's certain THINGS i didn't want her to, see
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 8: want her to be exposed to and her mother's different.
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 8: PEOPLE i didn't want her to be exposed to that
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 8: side of me either at. Seven BUT i get the
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 8: other side of, it of her seeing me stand end
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 8: up for myself and seeing boundaries LIKE i get that.
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 3: Cool.
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 8: Whatever in the last fifteen, years the only PEOPLE i
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 8: have ever had to put hands on is, men And
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 8: i'm actually disgusted by THE i have not had a
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 8: fight with a woman SINCE i was like nineteen twenty years.
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 8: Old i'm tired of having to fuck men. UP i
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 8: Actually i'm really tired of.
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 7: It it's not.
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 8: Cool but also as a, woman you go through like
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 8: the because we still all like compassionate and. Shit so
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 8: Now i'm going through the motions in my head, like,
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 8: damn MAYBE i should have worn something different or you know,
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 8: WHAT i, like my antitas did go up when he
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 8: came in the, elevator but he obviously was on. Drug
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 8: And i'm just making all it like and then you
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 8: go through like the Mental olympics of it, all when
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 8: the fact of the matter is, this you shouldn't have
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 8: fucking touched, me period and what you got you, deserved,
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 8: Period AND i just GOTTA i have to stand on.
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 8: That BUT i don't TAKE i. Don't it's not fun for.
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 7: Me to have to be that.
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 8: Person But i'm one hundred percent always with being that,
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 8: person so up.
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 7: Way out that, WHOLE i.
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  Speaker 6: Don't he's.
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 9: Lucky he got his ass whipped at the best possible
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 9: place to get, it your ass whipped.
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 6: At doctor.
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  Speaker 7: He got he got back on the. Elevator he ran
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 7: out that whole like the find him in the street type.
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 7: Ship m.
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  Speaker 6: Hm he didn't even get no band aids or.
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 8: Nothing, no because by by the TIME i stepped out the,
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 8: elevator when the elevated doors, closed he ran.
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 7: Out But parker was like.
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 8: He was bleeding from his. HEAD i, said, Good so
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 8: if anybody want to come find, me.
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 6: Dodh i'm sorry you have to go to. That that's.
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 3: TERRIBLE i am. YEAH i don't know should SHOULD i be?
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 3: Me or what be?
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 8: YOU i feel better. Today if this was a couple
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 8: of days, AGO i would have closed the.
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 7: Screen, god what do you what you?
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 3: Mean you've been fighting niggas for fifteen?
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 8: Years, NO i, said the last fifteen years of my,
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 8: Life i've only had to fight.
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 7: Men that's a fact that you've been.
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 8: FIGHTING i beat up the old owner of the restaurant
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 8: THAT i worked, at The Nigerian. RESTAURANT i had to
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 8: look him up right WHEN i was. Pregnant we was
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 8: at The. BARCLAYS i almost had to fuck that man.
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 8: UP i beat up my baby. Father i'm it's only been.
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 7: MEN i haven't hit no. Girls now THAT i want,
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 7: You i'm a girl THAT i don't want.
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 8: TO i don't want, you But i'm just, like but
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 8: why is it THAT i always gotta defend myself against the.
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 7: NIGGAS i don't want to do. That i'm just a.
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 2: Girl now what you? Got, no what are you thinking?
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 2: About all of this? Fighting put you into?
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 5: Hey if they touch you? FIRST i, mean at the
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 5: end of the, day ain't no charges? Coming and it
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 5: would be. CRAZY i stand behind my girl over. Here.
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 5: SORRY i hate that you've only had to put your
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 5: hands on. Men that sucks for, sure BECAUSE i.
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 7: Feel like only men try me LIKE i.
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 8: DON'T i don't give energy that other girls like be
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 8: having like real issues with, Me like it's something like
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 8: men always try.
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 7: Me they either try to be, tough they try to
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 7: talk tough. LIKE i don't like that. SHIT i don't.
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 8: LIKE i don't really like, men, period BUT i really
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 8: don't like men disrespecting me like.
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 7: YOU i don't know how else to.
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 8: REACT i don't know how else to react from men
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 8: being disrespectful to my face without.
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 7: SWINGING i don't know what to.
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 3: Do, NO i feel.
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 2: YOU i FEEL i, MEAN i feel LIKE i JUST
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 2: i feel bad That parker had to see that tool.
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 7: Son that's the. HEARTBREAKER i WISH i was. Alone OH
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 7: i WISH.
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 5: I i WISH i were not.
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 3: Alone, YEAH i feel you.
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 2: Know somebody just, said oh my, GOD i have The
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 2: i'm not a, lawyer but, Wow i'm. Late did you
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 2: know that you're? Famous Mel when did you realize? That,
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 2: like come on dateline puts you on?
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 3: There, NO i don't.
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 5: Think i'm famous at. All it's actually when people are,
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 5: like oh my, Gosh i'm, like, Girl i'm so. Regular
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 5: SO i actually THINK i come across as awkward in
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 5: person Because i'm, Like i'm just, Regular SO i don't
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 5: consider myself. That but thank. YOU i appreciate obviously, everybody
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 5: anyone who watches by.
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  Speaker 7: Content i'm so happy that you were here.
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 2: Today you really, like, yes, excellent, excellent Et so thank
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  Speaker 2: you so much for your contributions to our daily. Watches
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 2: and you, know all of the, research because she really
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 2: does research on these. Cases this isn't some shit where
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 2: she's just, like you, know repeating something she's seen on some.
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  Speaker 2: Nigga she's opening the cases and following the cases and
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  Speaker 2: reading the actual what is it called the oceans or,
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  Speaker 2: documents the court. Documents she's reading all of that. Ship
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  Speaker 2: she's highlighting ship for people to see. It like like
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  Speaker 2: she's literally doing real. Work And i'm hoping that this
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  Speaker 2: takes off for. You i'm hoping that you find like
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• 1:17:21
  Speaker 2: really appreciate.
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  Speaker 4: You, again tell these people where they can find.
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  Speaker 5: You, yes you can Find i'm not a, lawyer but
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 5: on all platforms Except twitter everywhere, Else i'm not a.
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  Speaker 5: Lawyer butt, Uh and, Yeah i've been. Following i've been
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  Speaker 5: attending some in. PERSON i Attended diddy in person a
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  Speaker 5: Staff rocky's in person trial in person.
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  Speaker 4: Was at The diddy.
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  Speaker 5: TRIAL i Did, diddy not the whole, thing BUT i
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  Speaker 5: definitely was there for some of the. Testimony i'm Doing.
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  Speaker 5: Dirk dirk has a trial coming, up So i've been attending.
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  Speaker 5: That so, YEAH i you, know take. It i'm not a,
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  Speaker 5: lawyer but all the, platforms you'll get all the Things
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  Speaker 5: i'm looking at reading and then that was. Awesome were
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  Speaker 5: you about to, WELL i was about to talk about
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  Speaker 5: the live, show BUT i don't want to do.
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  Speaker 2: That you're, Right, yeah go into the live show.
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  Speaker 5: And then my live show it's Called You be The
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  Speaker 5: judge In atlanta On august. Second the four pm show
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  Speaker 5: is sold. Out the seven pm, SHOW i got some,
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  Speaker 9: UP i got a, question, Mel, yeah do you or
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 9: did you at any POINT i have aspirations to become
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 9: a lawyer or anywhere in the legal.
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  Speaker 5: FIELD i did.
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  Speaker 4: NOT i do.
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  Speaker 5: Not the MOST i have considered doing. THAT i probably,
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  Speaker 5: won't But i've thought About california has the baby, bar you,
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  Speaker 5: my knowledge and see how MUCH i actually. Know but
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  Speaker 5: That's i'm not going to law school AND.
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  Speaker 4: I don't want to be a.
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  Speaker 5: LAWYER i have, no no aspirations to do that.
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  Speaker 4: Get my dodge on in the goddamn.
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  Speaker 3: House let me go check on my. Cousin wait a,
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  Speaker 3: second don't you have another part, too?
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  Speaker 2: Week thank you all for pulling, up and we have
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  Speaker 5: Peace thank you for having, Me thank.
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  Speaker 3: You thank you so. Much.
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 2: Mel this was, amazing all right in this stream and