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Custom MAID? Not quite! | HBR Talk 409 · Honey Badger Radio

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  Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to HBr Talk four oh nine, custom
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  Speaker 1: made not quite I'm your host Hannah Wallen here with
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  Speaker 1: nonsense Annihilator Lauren Brooks and the personification Hello and the
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  Speaker 1: personification of perceptivity Mike Stevenson.
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  Speaker 2: The advice of counsel, I respectfully declined to answer under
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  Speaker 2: the Fifth Amendment of the Constitution.
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  Speaker 1: Yous s sorry, we are missing one Richard the lionhearted
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  Speaker 1: for now if he comes and he comes in, but
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  Speaker 1: I'll have to find out later. In the meantime, we
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  Speaker 1: are still looking at the most awful subject matter I
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  Speaker 1: could find. And it's not because I was looking for
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  Speaker 1: awful subject matter. It's because this this chef has to
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  Speaker 1: be discussed. It's it's important for several reasons, one of
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  Speaker 1: which you know I've I've said numerous times that men
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  Speaker 1: need to be a bigger voting block. We need a
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  Speaker 1: higher percentage of men voting, and they need to be
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  Speaker 1: voting men's interest first and other issues second, because men's
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  Speaker 1: interest is staying alive and not getting drafted, not getting
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  Speaker 1: taxed to death, and not having your children taken away
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  Speaker 1: in a divorce. You know, things like that, getting your
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  Speaker 1: kids a real education, and not having them indoctrinated with
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  Speaker 1: communism and mental health conditions that they didn't start out with.
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  Speaker 1: And you know, this is pretty basic stuff. It's not
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  Speaker 1: it's not Champagne and caviat, not shan, what is it?
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  Speaker 1: Campaign wishes and caviar dreams. It's live and let live.
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  Speaker 1: It's uh, don't get taken advantage of. It's don't get
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  Speaker 1: used as cannon fodder. That's pretty important. And this is
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  Speaker 1: important in the same way because if assisted suicide is
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  Speaker 1: being used improperly, and it is being used on people
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  Speaker 1: with mental health conditions that are treatable or other conditions
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  Speaker 1: that are treatable, that's a very big problem with male
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  Speaker 1: disposability as a major men's issue. It's really bad news
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  Speaker 1: if an assisted suicide law is being passed in any
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  Speaker 1: nation without proper safeguards against abuse, because if it doesn't
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  Speaker 1: have those safeguards, it will be abused. Even when it does,
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  Speaker 1: it gets abused. And that's what this story is about today,
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  Speaker 1: and attempt at abusing a law that does actually have safeguards.
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  Speaker 1: They're not supposed to be able to do what they did,
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  Speaker 1: and that should scare the shit out of you, especially
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  Speaker 1: if you've ever had depression, if you've ever been suicidal,
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  Speaker 1: if you've ever loved anybody that was for a short
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  Speaker 1: time suicidal, and you know was ever depressed, because it
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  Speaker 1: doesn't take very long to get approved, get through the system,
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  Speaker 1: and get euthanized with these systems. So sorry that part
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  Speaker 1: of the show's the rest of the show is probably
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  Speaker 1: not going to be funny. But with that I will
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  Speaker 1: top of the page. But with that out of the way,
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  Speaker 1: we will we will get into the story. And sorry,
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  Speaker 1: I might sound a little breathless today. The smoke from
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  Speaker 1: from the burning of the ad revenue at various various
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  Speaker 1: media platforms, entertainment media platforms that are sort of social
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  Speaker 1: entertainment media like YouTube. It's really getting to me lately.
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  Speaker 1: I shouldn't say that. That's terrible. So we have this
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  Speaker 1: this new story Vancouver woman offered me. Now this is
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  Speaker 1: not a new new story. I believe this happened like
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  Speaker 1: a couple of years ago or a year ago, it'll
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  Speaker 1: say lower down here on the page. But it's in
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  Speaker 1: conjunction with this discussion because the UK is still trying
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  Speaker 1: to pass their assisted suicide law, and you know Canadian
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  Speaker 1: made is U is particularly I don't know, it's it's
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  Speaker 1: kind of scary to me because of how quickly it
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  Speaker 1: has just sort of erupted. And this is exactly the
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  Speaker 1: problem I have with it. It's supposed to be for
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  Speaker 1: people who are in a situation where they are definitely
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  Speaker 1: going to die. You're not going to survive this ailment.
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  Speaker 1: It is going to kill you. There is nothing modern
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  Speaker 1: medicine can do, and the only options we have are
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  Speaker 1: ways to make you comfortable and reduce your pain. This
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  Speaker 1: is something that they tell cancer patients at various stages
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  Speaker 1: where it's too late and the EMO and radiation that
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  Speaker 1: they used isn't going to work. There are other illnesses
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  Speaker 1: that are terminal that they don't know how to treat.
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  Speaker 1: There's certain types of strokes and stuff like that that
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  Speaker 1: can happen where you didn't really get any warning, but
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  Speaker 1: you're going to live for another maybe six weeks as
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  Speaker 1: your body starts to shut down, and the best that
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  Speaker 1: they can do is make sure that you don't have
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  Speaker 1: to feel any more of it than absolutely unavoidable. Right,
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  Speaker 1: and it's absolutely unavoidable. But now they have this assisted
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  Speaker 1: suicide so when you're in that situation, they can allow
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  Speaker 1: you to exit before it happens before you go through
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  Speaker 1: all that. That's what that's supposed to be for, right.
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  Speaker 2: You real, No, you just know that's going to end
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  Speaker 2: up as one percent of the cases, much like we
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  Speaker 2: often hear in the abortion debate, Well you don't want
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  Speaker 2: women to be able to abort if in cases of
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  Speaker 2: rape and incest. Well maybe, but that's less than one percent.
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  Speaker 2: And yeah, we're going to get the same thing with this.
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  Speaker 2: People are going to be killed by the government because
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  Speaker 2: they were a sad one day. And when we attempt
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  Speaker 2: to argue with this, we're going to be told, oh,
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  Speaker 2: so you don't want people to be able to avoid
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  Speaker 2: like a month of extreme agony when they cannot possibly
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  Speaker 2: be cured. And then we look at what's going on
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  Speaker 2: in Canada and what percentage of the deaths is actually
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  Speaker 2: from an intractable like terminal disease. It's probably not one
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  Speaker 2: percent yet, but if they keep if the government keeps
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  Speaker 2: doing what it's doing and the people don't fight back,
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  Speaker 2: then it's it's it's going to shrink to below one percent,
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  Speaker 2: where the vast majority of people being officially killed by
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  Speaker 2: the government do not need to be killed by the government.
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  Speaker 2: They're just a bit sad or some shit m.
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  Speaker 1: Yep, yep. And so what exactly are they offering made
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  Speaker 1: for in Canada. Well, it turns out, and I've seen
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  Speaker 1: a few other stories, it's being offered as an alternative
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  Speaker 1: to medical treatment in a variety of cases now, but
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  Speaker 1: this one was pretty egregious. Vancouver woman offered made before
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  Speaker 1: receiving any treatment at hospital. And as you can see,
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  Speaker 1: she's like about twenty six, twenty seven. No no, no, wait,
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  Speaker 1: she's old and gray. Elderly Vancouver woman offered made before
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  Speaker 1: receiving any treatment at hospital. Eighty four year old woman
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  Speaker 1: who visited Canadian hospital was offered made before receiving any
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  Speaker 1: other treatment. They didn't do anything for her, They just
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  Speaker 1: immediately offered her what would you like to commit suicide?
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  Speaker 2: And it's not suicide, by the way, it's murder, his
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  Speaker 2: first degree murder by the government.
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  Speaker 1: This one's not as old as I thought. This is
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  Speaker 1: not the one from a couple of years ago. This
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  Speaker 1: is March. This is a couple of months ago. So
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  Speaker 1: this recently happened. An eighty four woman who visited a
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  Speaker 1: Canadian hospital was offered made before receiving any other treatment.
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  Speaker 1: Posted on x Amanda Actmann, the founder of the Dying
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  Speaker 1: to Meet You project, posted a clip of Miriam Lancaster,
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  Speaker 1: who explains in April last year, she got out of
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  Speaker 1: bed and excruciating pain. Lancaster's daughter called an ambulance and
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  Speaker 1: Lancaster was sent to Vancouver General Hospital. Okay, this is
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  Speaker 1: gonna be a challenge for me, just because Lancaster is
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  Speaker 1: a city on the eastern side of Ohio. Like, this
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  Speaker 1: is the woman. Lancaster is the woman. My brain is
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  Speaker 1: not going to accept that for a while. At the hospital,
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  Speaker 1: instead of treating her, the worst thing or first thing
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  Speaker 1: the doctor offered her was made, as Lancaster tells, the
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  Speaker 1: Western standard. Once she arrived at the hospital to be treated,
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  Speaker 1: no tests had been taken. All I knew was that
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  Speaker 1: I was in an emergency ward and was approached by
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  Speaker 1: a doctor, which I was expecting. And the first thing
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  Speaker 1: the doctor did was ask about made I was taken aback.
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  Speaker 1: That was the last thing on my mind. I just
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  Speaker 1: wanted to find out why I was in pain. I
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  Speaker 1: did not want to die, recalled Lancaster in Ackman's clip,
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  Speaker 1: And this this is the lady. I believe this is
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  Speaker 1: the same quote.
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  Speaker 3: I am eighty four years old and a years ago,
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  Speaker 3: the amazing thing happened when I got out of bed
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  Speaker 3: one morning. I was suddenly in excruciating pain, so much
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  Speaker 3: so that my daughter came running in from another room.
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  Speaker 3: She called an ambulance.
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  Speaker 4: Off.
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  Speaker 3: I went to the Vancouver General Hospital and I was
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  Speaker 3: approached by a young lady doctor whose very first words
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  Speaker 3: out of her mouth is, we would like to offer
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  Speaker 3: you made. I was taken aback. That was the last
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  Speaker 3: thing on my mind. I just wanted to find out
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  Speaker 3: why I was in pain. I did not want to die,
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  Speaker 3: and I was a month in the hospital, came home
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  Speaker 3: and recuperated nicely enough that I could take some trips off.
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  Speaker 3: I went last year to Cuba, before the problems today
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  Speaker 3: in Cuba, and then this just recently, I have been
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  Speaker 3: to Mexico and Guatemala, so my recovery.
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  Speaker 1: So in other words, this almost looks like a kids
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  Speaker 1: in the Hall sketch. I went to the doctor and
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  Speaker 1: they tried to kill me. And she's, of course, she's
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  Speaker 1: phil flabbergasted. You can see her expression is just absolutely flabbergasted.
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  Speaker 3: Has been amazing, and there was no need for maid
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  Speaker 3: to even be suggested.
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  Speaker 1: And it just blows blew my mind when I saw
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  Speaker 1: this story because I thought, you know, I know, they're
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  Speaker 1: the thing that I had been arguing with people about, was,
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  Speaker 1: you know, this needs to be set up so that
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  Speaker 1: first of all, it's the patient requesting information, not the
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  Speaker 1: doctor suggesting, not the uh you know, hospital suggesting. The
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  Speaker 1: insurance companies shouldn't be denying people coverage and then saying
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  Speaker 1: but we'll pay for maid, you know, and things like that.
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  Speaker 1: Those should not be happening. But I hadn't considered the
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  Speaker 1: idea of, oh, you're eighty four years old, well would
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  Speaker 1: you like to kill yourself?
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  Speaker 4: Like?
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  Speaker 1: Are you kidding me? But that's what happened. Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Uh so for every every one of you dipshit Americans
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  Speaker 5: that somehow think that, oh ye, universal healthcare is a
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  Speaker 5: good thing. No, no, no, it's not healthcare. It's healthcare
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  Speaker 5: up to a point where they're just deciding that, you
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  Speaker 5: know what, would rather just get rid of you.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, you think about it. You like your HMO,
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  Speaker 1: your health management organization? How many people here just love
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  Speaker 1: their health management organization? I don't know if they're still
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  Speaker 1: doing that. My insurance company doesn't engage one of those,
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  Speaker 1: but an HMO was an organization that used a I
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  Speaker 1: guess a battery of doctors, a flock of doctors, I
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  Speaker 1: don't know what you would call them, but they were
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  Speaker 1: supposed to be doctors anyway in the insurance company who
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  Speaker 1: would go through cases and decide whether or not the
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  Speaker 1: insurance company should cover it on the basis of whether
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  Speaker 1: the medical care involved was what they would have recommended
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  Speaker 1: in the same case. So, for instance, let's say you
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  Speaker 1: have a situation where your doctor says you need knee
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  Speaker 1: surgery or you're going to lose the ability to walk
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  Speaker 1: and you need to lose this much weight in order
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  Speaker 1: to have this knee surgery, or you're not going to
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  Speaker 1: be able to cover and since you've had difficulty, we're
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  Speaker 1: going to add this medication, and here's how you're going
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  Speaker 1: to step down from it, and and it's all in
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  Speaker 1: order that you have to do this because of each
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  Speaker 1: you know, cascading reason. And here's how you're going to
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  Speaker 1: recover from it. And you're not going to be on
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  Speaker 1: this medication forever, but you're going to keep your weight down,
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  Speaker 1: and here's the plan, and so on. The HMO goes, no,
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  Speaker 1: we aren't going to pay for that because you know this,
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  Speaker 1: This person's reason for needing to lose weight that fast
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  Speaker 1: isn't because they're dying from weight related conditions, and we're
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  Speaker 1: not going to approve the surgery because they're too fat,
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  Speaker 1: you know. So Cat's twenty two, right, And that's that's
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  Speaker 1: one that I remember from a friend, and that situation
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  Speaker 1: just spiraled out of control until they finally they finally
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  Speaker 1: gave up and didn't have the surgery and ended up,
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  Speaker 1: you know, getting to the point where they could have
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  Speaker 1: had the medication because they were dying from weight related conditions.
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  Speaker 1: But that kind of behavior, like Obamacare was supposed to
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  Speaker 1: address that and make it stop. No more denying people
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  Speaker 1: without without some sort of process, you know, where you
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  Speaker 1: can you can appeal in that. It doesn't work very well.
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  Speaker 1: You still have a difficulty with all of that. And
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  Speaker 1: in fact, to the degree that say you have a
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  Speaker 1: family doctor and it's not the healthcare plan that your
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: company has doesn't have that health clinic in their plan,
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  Speaker 1: so they won't pay your doctor directly. You have to
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: pay your doctor, and then you have to send paperwork
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  Speaker 1: to them to get your payment back. My insurance company
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  Speaker 1: for years was not associated with my doctor. Wouldn't pay
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  Speaker 1: my doctor. But at the same time, when I would
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  Speaker 1: send them the paperwork, they would always ignore it. And
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  Speaker 1: then when I would contact them, it was, oh, well,
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  Speaker 1: this part wasn't filled out correctly. We need this other
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  Speaker 1: additional unrelated information.
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  Speaker 4: Oh my god.
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  Speaker 1: Until you know, eventually my company wasn't with that insurance
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  Speaker 1: company anymore, and they wouldn't talk to me and about
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  Speaker 1: collecting that money back because we were no longer insured
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  Speaker 1: with them, And even though we had been at that time,
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  Speaker 1: because we were no longer customers, they didn't want to
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  Speaker 1: talk to me. It's like, yeah, I would have had
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  Speaker 1: to go through the state. There is a process to
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  Speaker 1: go through the state. It is a huge pain in
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  Speaker 1: the ass. And unfortunately that that all happened during COVID
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  Speaker 1: So money.
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  Speaker 2: Like I said the other week, there's two kinds of healthcare.
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  Speaker 2: There's private and the government subsidized socialized, and they both
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  Speaker 2: have their sort of pitfalls. The problem with the private
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  Speaker 2: healthcare is is their incentive is profit, and so they're
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  Speaker 2: incentivized to keep you alive but on their drugs and
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  Speaker 2: with their operations for as long as possible so they
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  Speaker 2: can keep breaking in the money. But the problem with
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  Speaker 2: socialized healthcare. Is what we are encountering in this, in
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  Speaker 2: this article, in this, in this general YEP story, they
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  Speaker 2: are incentivized to just not have you there. They're already
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  Speaker 2: being paid, they don't care about They're already getting billions
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  Speaker 2: from the fucking government, and it is just going to
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  Speaker 2: keep coming no matter what. So they're not incentivized to
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  Speaker 2: keep you alive. On quite the contrary, they are incentivized
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  Speaker 2: to kill you because then then they'll they'll still keep
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  Speaker 2: getting the money, but they don't have to spend it
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  Speaker 2: on keeping you alive. If there's any country that could
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  Speaker 2: be trusted with made, it's the United States, because it's
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  Speaker 2: in their interest to keep you alive. The worst possible
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: places you could introduce it places like Canada and the
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  Speaker 2: United Kingdom, where we have socialized healthcare and they are
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  Speaker 2: incentivized to kill you. It's like, it's not that complicated.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, although we do have some assisted suicide states in
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  Speaker 1: the US, and there are insurance companies that are offering
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  Speaker 1: system suicide instead of healthcare and insisting that that is healthcare.
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  Speaker 1: But the government end of it, right, you think, well,
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  Speaker 1: it would be better if the government was handling it, right, well,
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  Speaker 1: one of the things the government does is they allow
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  Speaker 1: you to save your own money toward medical expenses. There's
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  Speaker 1: two types of accounts here in the US to do it.
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  Speaker 1: One of them is a they're both medical savings accounts,
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  Speaker 1: just one of them is a flexible spending account and
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  Speaker 1: the other one is a health savings account. In the
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  Speaker 1: health savings account just goes pretty much strictly to medical
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  Speaker 1: bills and specific types of like medicine expenses or medical devices,
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  Speaker 1: if you've got to buy a wheelchair, or you know,
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  Speaker 1: if you have to buy a brace for your wrist
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  Speaker 1: or something. Flexible spending does the same thing, but only
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  Speaker 1: if you don't switch one year to another back and
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  Speaker 1: forth between an HSA and an FSA at your job,
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  Speaker 1: which my employer did. So they didn't really explain that
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  Speaker 1: at the time. HR didn't do a very good job
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  Speaker 1: of making sure we understood that we should spend down
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  Speaker 1: and eliminate our FSA before the HSA kicked in. So
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  Speaker 1: I had like the maximum you can have at that
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  Speaker 1: point and roll over to the next year, and if
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  Speaker 1: you have any more over that, the government sponsored bank
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  Speaker 1: just gets to keep it. You lose that money, which
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  Speaker 1: is a weird rule. I don't know why they and
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  Speaker 1: stated that other than the fact that it was the
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  Speaker 1: government's idea. So the next thing that happens, I find
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  Speaker 1: that out. I am at the end of the year
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  Speaker 1: at that point, and I'm double what I'm supposed to have,
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  Speaker 1: And of course they would not let me use it
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  Speaker 1: to pay any of my copays or anything, because they
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: had this nice long list of things you can't use
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  Speaker 1: it for. If you have an HSA, you have to
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: use your HSA for that, and your FSA then is
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  Speaker 1: only good for things like your wrist brace at the pharmacy,
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: or glasses or a dental visit. Well, dental visits don't
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: do jack shit for me. I didn't want to get
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: new glasses, and I had to spend down an amount
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: that was equal to several medical copays that we had paid.
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: So I wanted that money, but they would not give
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: it to me, and I couldn't get the woman to
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: tell me why. I spent four or five hours on
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: the phone, going from person to person trying to get
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: a solid answer, and eventually one of them said, you
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: have an HSA, you can't do this, And I said, well,
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: is there a list of what I can spend this
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: money on, so that I can spend it down. So
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: she sighs this long suffering oh my god, I can't
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: believe you asked that kind of sigh wow, and then
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: takes a very very deep breath and she goes, you
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: can't spend it on. And then she starts down this
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: list and she gets to like item six or seven
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: before she has to take another breath. And I said, wait,
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: don't tell me all the things that I can't spend
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: it on. Go to the other list the things that
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: I can spend it on. What's left over? She goes,
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: there is no other list, Well, what can I spend
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: it on? Then, well, you can't spend it on that
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: added added, And this was this conversation was repeated four
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: times with her before I asked to speak to yet
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: another supervisor. Oh my god, and that supervisor did exactly
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: the same thing, And so I asked to speak to
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: her supervisor, who did exactly the same thing. Nobody knew
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: what I could spend this money on. Literally, they didn't know.
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: They didn't have a list. They didn't think I should know. Wow,
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: what I could spend my money on that I saved
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: in my account that was part of my compensation for
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: work that I did for my employer. And finally I
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: get to the last supervisor and she threatens to There
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: was a way that she said it was like customer
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: servicing me out of the system. It sounded like she
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: was offering me customer service, but what she was talking
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: about was banning me from my money, from access to
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: my money, for being rude by asking what I can
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: do with my money? And I said, well, can you
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: at least tell me what most people spend it on
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: if they have an HSA And she said, well, you
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: can go to the dentist where you can get new
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: you know, go to the eye doctor. It'll pay for those,
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: and you can spend it at the pharmacy. And I
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: was like, that was the information I was looking for.
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: Why couldn't anybody tell me? I didn't say it because
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: they didn't want to get customer serviced out of my money. Yeah,
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: why the hell could they not tell me that in
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: the beginning, because they were paid not to. That's the
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: government handling your health care. They are paid not to.
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: They are.
• 25:38
  Speaker 4: Shoot.
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: I can't think of the name of the the bartle be,
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: this scrivener of health care. Your government doesn't help you
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: because it prefers not to. I'm sure if you look
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: it up at Herman Melville Bartleby the Scrivener, they literally
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: will just sit like a lump. No, I'm not helping you.
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: I would prefer not to. And if you're rude about it,
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: I'll customer service you out of here, right like, oh okay,
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: when I customer service to people, A mean they got meant,
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: they got free stuff back when I was in retail.
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: But to imagine, imagine what happens if you combine the
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: beautiful nature of the health denial organ I mean health
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: management organization and that government organization. I just described the
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: fuck you spinning account, the inflexible spinning account. That is
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: what happens when you get government healthcare. You are now
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: enrolled in the HMO from hell. So they offer you made.
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: I was offered made right away. She said that just
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: is insane. My mom was in a lot of pain
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: at the time that I was with her. This is
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: Jordan Weaver, Lancaster's daughter recall. After she was diagnosed, she
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: was offered made right away. My recollection is that she
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: had received her diagnosis. We had been several hours in
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: the emergency, my mom had a fractured pelvis, so she
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: just had a broken broken hip. Right now, a broken
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: hip at that age is a big deal. I'm not
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: gonna say it isn't.
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: That is.
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: The last thing that happened to my grandmother before the
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: first stroke that took her entire personality away. But that's
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: not what happens to everybody. It does happen, and it
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: is awful that it happens, but it's not a reason
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: to kill yourself. I know my grandmother would not have
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: accepted that. She actually was very much against assisted suicide.
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: But can you imagine for a minute, if you were
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: an eighty four year old with just a little bit
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: of dementia that comes with old age, like maybe you
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: were a little more slow on the uptake, not enough
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: to maybe be unable to assess what's going on around you,
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: just that it might take you five or ten minutes
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: longer than other people in a situation like this, where
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: ten years ago you wouldn't you wouldn't buy the Brooklyn
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: Bridge from somebody, But right now if they said, oh,
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: but it's not the bridge, they're selling bricks from the
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: under the pavement, and you get your name put on it,
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: and it's going to go on the side of the
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: bridge to repair the bridge, and you'll be honored for it.
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: A lot of eighty four year olds would figure out
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: a couple hours later that they had just given money
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: to a scam artist. Right, so she's in significant pain.
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: A broken bone hurts like hell, just absolute hell. And
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: this woman has a broken hip and a broken pelvis.
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: Really and even a small fracture like that, a hairline fracture,
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: it's still an insane amount of pain, which confuses you also,
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: And here they come along. We can relieve your pain.
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: Would you like to die? Yeah? Chela men, Oh go ahead.
• 29:36
  Speaker 5: If my mom told me something like that, I don't
• 29:40
  Speaker 5: know what kind.
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: Of angry I would be.
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: I it's just it's.
• 29:51
  Speaker 5: But they didn't even test her for anything. Just oh, well,
• 29:55
  Speaker 5: do you want to die?
• 29:56
  Speaker 4: Here?
• 29:57
  Speaker 5: We can do that for you. We can assist you
• 29:59
  Speaker 5: in that, but we can't actually help you.
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: Oh god, you know you'll Normally, for a broken hip,
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: they immobilize it for a period of time. They might
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: do a surgery and put a plate on it to
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: keep it immobilized. You know, it's quite possible something like that.
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: But no, not in this situation for Lancaster's fractured pelvis,
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: it was impossible to offer surgery. We were states that
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: there was nothing to do except wait for the bones
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: to heal with proper treatment. So that's bed rest because
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: you can't be up and walking around with a broken hip.
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: So she was in the hospital for a month and
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: then she was done being in the hospital, so she
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: got out. She gets discharged in out of the hospital
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: a month later, alive, but they were going to offer
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: her made for something that they could treat for a
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: month and send her home.
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: You hear a lot of horror stories from like apparently
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: hospitals before the basically twentieth century, it didn't really treat people.
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: They were just infirmaries where people went to die. I mean,
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: the further back in history you go, apparently the more
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: this was the case, hospitals weren't really places of healing.
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: They were just places where people went to.
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: Die, especially before antibiotics.
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and before Semmelweis sort of suggested that maybe people
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: should wash their hands and shit, and you can probably
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: get what I'm driving at. The hospitals are now not
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: so much places where they heal, but places where they
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: fast track you into death. You don't have to hang
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: around for a year. We could do you in in
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: a month. This is progress, folks. I thought I shouldn't laugh, Well,
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: all I could do is laugh, so I will.
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's the kind of laugh that you usually
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: hear from somebody in a padded room and a straight jacket.
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: Because that's about way the way this is. This is
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: a crazy situation that's being described here. And I mean
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: we do have people reacting to it too. I should
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: read some of that. We have some super chows and
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: we have some rumble rants, so we'll start with the
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: super chows. The official Reverse Traditionalism channel on YouTube gave
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: us five dollars and said the thumbnail reminds me of
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: doctor Shobs. Doctor Shobbs from Yes he was yet.
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: The end of episode Boss on episode two, Ah you're
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: you're my boys. If you remember the original Wolfenstein, he
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: three he threw syringes at you, kind of like Fauci
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: but fat.
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: That's hilarious. Uh Meredith, you gave us five dollars and said,
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: honey or HBr talk four oh nine honey for the Badgers.
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: By the way, we are not a cleaning spray. Just
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: so you know, but we will. We will make you
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: wish that you could use mind bleach on occasion. Dark
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: Kiki Mora. It was five dollars in staid making assisted suicide.
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: The first suggestion sounds like the same informed consent problem
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: of patients and parents being suggested circumcision as the first
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: resort in treating pomosis rather than famosis. Rings. Oh, occasionally
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: they just use the steroid. They put a steroidal cream
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: similar to cortisone. Just not the little tiny percent that
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: you get over the counter.
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: Richard Pierre, it's another one of those one percent arguments. Well,
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: one percent of the time circumcisions are because of the
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: most what less than one percent, considerably less, and so
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: we should just be able to usually every penis we
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: come across for profit or just because fuck men.
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: And probably one percent of the circumcisions done for famosis
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: are halfway necessary and the rest are not necessary at all.
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: Richard Beer gave us five dollars and said, Okay, there
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: was a story out of Spain where a rape victim
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: was in a group care facility. I remember this, who
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: may have suffered additional abuse while in the facility, had
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: applied for euthanasia. She later changed her mind, but her
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: recanting wasn't accepted by the government. Authorities were sent to
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: the family home to collect her and by force make
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: her attend the euthanasia appointment, meaning they killed her. They
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: murdered her. Part of that was because the medical system
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: had already had recipients lined up for her organs. So
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: they took a victim of a crime who was revictimized
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: in the real sense, not the feminist sense, by the
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: people that she went to for help, who was in
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: a moment of despondence, suicidal, and then changed her mind
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: and decided she could live, who wasn't terminally ill, and
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: forced her to die because they were selling her organs. Right,
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: this is a kin. He goes on to the mental
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: health hospital system being used as quasi incarnation for certain
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: people and doing an in run around the criminal justice
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: system or incarceration for some people. Sorry, I don't know
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: why that looked like an end to me. Also about
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: the abortion in cases of incest. Do you know what
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: the population of Alabama would be with that incest? That's
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: not nice. It would likely have a lower population density
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: per square mile then Alaska does. I would say DC
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: would be worse at least be minus a couple of
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: a couple of immigrants senators. But in the meantime, you know,
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: point well taken like, as soon as you get a
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: system like this into place, there will be abuses. And
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: one thing that absolutely has to be paramount is that
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: it really should only be used for conditions that are
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: not medically treatable that will cause a torturous death. There
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: should not be allowability for its use to treat temporary
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: or treatable conditions, because the minute it is used to
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: treat temporary or treatable conditions, you start getting you start
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: getting insurance companies, governments forcing people to go through with
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: it or to opt into it forcibly without their consent
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: because they don't want to pay for their treatment, or
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: because they want to sell their organs, or because they
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: don't want it to look like the program is not
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: perfect and people don't want it even a tiny little
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: reason like that. You have to be able to change
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: your mind. If there's going to be a system that
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: allows for people to be medically killed, those people have
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: to be able to say, wait, I don't want to
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: do this, never mind, We're going to stop, and the
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: process should stop and there should not be anybody capable
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: of forcing it on them against their will. If the
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: law doesn't have stipulations that create heavy penalties, you are
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: convicted of murder first degree murder. If you do this
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: against the will of the patient, or participate in doing
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: this against the will of the patient, even if it's
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: just with the stroke of a pen, then it's not
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: a good law. Anybody who signs an order to do
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: it against the will of the patient should be convicted
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: of first degree murder. Anybody who administers the drug, anybody
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: who monitors the patient while the drug is working. Everybody
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: should be able to, you know, opt out of that order.
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to participate in this, and the patient.
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: They should have to see or hear the patient consent,
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: and if they see or hear an objection from the patient,
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: they are responsible to stop anything that's done after that. Like,
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: this should be where consent matters. This should be where
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: enthusiastic consent should come in. Not you know, two people
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: in the backseat of a car on a date, but
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: somebody going under the needle to die. This is where
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: enthusiastic consent should come in, and it should involve witnesses
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: it should be on paper, there should be no question.
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: If there's question, then you don't kill that person, right,
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: But that's not what was going on in this case.
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: So she was only in the hospital for a month
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: and then she's transferred back to UBC for rehabilitation, which
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: it's more like a nursing home situation at that point.
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: Recuperating to the point where she could be sent home,
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: it had to be supervised by a team of doctors, nurses,
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: and occupational and physical therapists. Weaver stated she couldn't come home,
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: so it was very expensive to treat, but it didn't
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: require surgery. And as you know from the story, she
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: made a full recovery. How she traveled outside the country,
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: traveled far. It's crazy to consider that they were going
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: to kill this woman a full recovery. Indeed, as afterwards,
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: Lancaster was healthy enough to go on multiple trips, not
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: someone suffering from an irredeemable and grievous medical condition. And
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: I missed a this was a roboto one, two, three, four, five,
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: six seven. Gave us a dollar and said, at this
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: point it would seem you could have law suit them
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: to Afghanistan class action lawsuit as you're not the first
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: they did that too, as my guess, Yeah, probably you're
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: probably talking about the FSU out the flexible spending account people, right,
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: and I'm sure that I'm not the only person they've
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: done that too. They not give information. What I did
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: end up doing is ensuring that some people in higher
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: up positions knew they were doing that. But I really
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: didn't ask for any kind of I don't know, recompense
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: for myself because I got my money in the end,
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: I got I was able to spend it, and so
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: they did not take my money. But they sure did
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: try a full recovery indeas afterwards. Lancaster was healthy enough
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: to go on multiple trips, not someone suffering from an
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: irrideemobile and grievous medical condition. However, wea we worries if
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: she hadn't been at that first consultation when her mom
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: was first in the hospital, things may have gone differently.
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: It was something like, you know, made is an option
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: that would end the pain forever, you know, with a
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: sort of encouraging attitude. We were recalled from the interaction
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: with the doctor who offered maide. So the first thing
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: she goes in there and her hip is sore, she
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: gets diagnosed with a hairline fracture, and the doctor's like,
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: you know, if you just kill yourself, it won't hurt anymore.
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: Like that was her her.
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: Treatment translated, if we just kill you, I just want
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: to keep hammering that point home. It's not suicide. This
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: is murder.
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: Ris doctors, If you just let us kill you, the
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: pain will be over, unless you believe that.
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: Unless you believe in ghosts of the afterlife, in which
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: case your soul will be floating around the world in
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: extreme agony for the rest of eternity. Luckily we don't
• 43:21
  Speaker 2: have those those kind of exclusions in our insurance policies.
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, of course not so if someone was being respectful
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: of healthcare workers, they might almost go along with it.
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: And that's another thingy. So this woman's enter eighty. She
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: is a boomer. The reason that circumcision in the United
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: States became as common as it as it got is because,
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: prior to Gen X, the Boomer generation and their parents
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: and their parents, if a doctor said this is healthy
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: and you should do it, they believed it so gullibly.
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: I can't think of a nicer way to say this.
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: That there used to be advertisements four out of five
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: doctors recommend whatever it is they're recommending, Like even I
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: think it was Camel's cigarettes. Four out of five doctors
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: say that camel cigarettes taste the best. It's in an
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: old Abbot and Costello cassette tape I have somewhere. It's
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: one that has Who's on First? And uh, I can
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: even remember the stupid ad because it had a little song,
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: a little jingle C A M E. L S like
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: it was. It was made to be cute, right, cancer sticks,
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: here's your cancer sticks.
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, cigarettes in the middle of it. And the
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: beer muppets and stuff, beer too. Adverts Yep, much like
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: we have adverts these days, like in the middle of
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: a video when when your illustrious host will suddenly start
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: talking about fucking ground news or some shit. Yeah, the
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: same thing happened in the sixties, in the fucking Flintstones.
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, some of the ads from back then were funny too,
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: but that was just out there. That was just out there.
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: And this in particular, you know, like if they said
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: four out of five doctors, people would listen. Even when
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: all the doctors were saying was these cigarettes taste better
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: than other cigarettes, not that they're better for your health
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: or not as bad for your health. Doctors smoke our cigarettes.
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: Oh really, Okay, well I'll smoke those because they won't
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: kill me, right. Experts agree, Yeah, yeah, experts about taste. Uh.
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: And then of course when doctors said you got to
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: you gotta get your kid circumcised because his his body
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: is imperfect and he'll be unclean his whole life if
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: you don't cut off some of the skin on his
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: genitalia where he's gonna be exposed to urine efeces at
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: the beginning of his life. That's the healthiest thing you
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: can do for him, is make sure that the skin
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: barrier that usually stops germs from getting into his bloodstream
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: isn't there. All right, Create an open wound that's gonna
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: have whatever bandaging is on it, get saturated with urine
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: m feces. That's gonna be totally healthy. Guys, and they
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: bought it, they believed it. Oh, yes, we must do this.
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: This is a good idea. So uh, gen xers, I
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: think about three quarters of our generation maybe more, maybe
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: closer to ninety percent or cut the men in our generation.
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: I don't think we did that to as many of
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: our kids, like most of the parents that I know,
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: we all kind of ended up having the same discussion,
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: and we're like, we don't have to do this right now.
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: He can decide that when he's old enough to make
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: it his choice. That's his choice, don't We don't have
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: to do this. But I know that they're still doing it,
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: and they're still making money off of it.
• 47:35
  Speaker 4: No.
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: At one point in Florida, a judge ordered a mother
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: to consent to it because the court decided that it
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: was healthy on the basis of something some doctor said,
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: but not all doctors agree on that. Roboto one, two, three, four, five,
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: six seven gave he was a dollar and said, would
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: you trust a doctor who didn't smoke cigarettes back in
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: the day on what brand tastes the best? Sure, I
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: don't know. I think back in the day, if if
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: I had trusted that I could smoke cigarettes because doctors
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: smoked them, I wouldn't have made it to twenty one.
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: I don't think I just survived. Dark Kikimura gave us
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: five dollars and said, on universal medicine in America, the
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: actual answer is that we do have it, it's just
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: local instead of federals such as New York City's hundred
• 48:41
  Speaker 1: year old system. I prefer the comparison you can make
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: between parts of America with government involvement in healthcare versus
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: parts without, and healthcare is better and cheaper in those
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: parts without. That's a more that apples to apples comparison
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: than comparing one pretend free market system of America to
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: and all other free market health countries that happened to
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: be third world shitholes against like two dozen of the
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: richest country in Europe. With you of universal care, one
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: thing I will say, even even you know, the government
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: is not alone in this. Insurance companies are not necessarily
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: the best thing either. Because I was basically self pay
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: with my doctor, and because I was able to go
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: to an independent pharmacy when I had COVID, that was
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: a composition pharmacy. I think that's what it's called composite
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: pharmacy or something that they put the medicine together in
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: the pharmacy. They put the pill, the medicine into the
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: capsule in the pharmacy. I was able to get ivermictin,
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: But if you went to say, one of the big
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: national chains with a prescription for that, they would report
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: your doctor and your doctor would get contacted by the
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: state organization that is an authority over pharmacies and an
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: authority over doctors, and they would ask him a bunch
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: of questions. My doctor actually had said, you know, is
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: it illegal to prescribe ivermected? Am I not allowed to
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: prescribe this to my patients? And they had to admit that, No,
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: it's not illegal, it's not against policy. There's no you know,
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: he's not in trouble. They just had some questions and
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: they did this to him like five times before he
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: was like, all right, I'm going to give you this prescription,
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: but you have to go to pharmacy X because if
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: you go to pharmacy, why this is what happens to me.
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: So I you know, when you get the government involved
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: and you get the insurance companies involved, insurance companies won't
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: cover that stuff. I had to pay for it out
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: of pocket. But because it was a cheap drug, that
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: wasn't a big deal and it did work. It worked
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: very well. I wish they were giving that to everybody
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: during the COVID crisis. I think that the death toll
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: would have been significantly smaller. Roboto won two, three, four, five,
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: six seven, gave US a dollar and said, does ivermectin work.
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: It does for the purposes that it's made to treat
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: and the things that there are several things that have
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: been discovered that it works on. They were using it
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: to treat coronaviruses before COVID. If you're in fact, they
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: were using it for pets for the same reason. You
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: get a coronavirus, they give you ivermectin, but that particular coronavirus.
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: They didn't want to do that because they wanted people
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: to take vaccine, the non vaccine vaccine, the DNA shot
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: or whatever it's called mh R an a elementop anyway,
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: the garbage shot. So this woman says, I think my
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: mom's pretty feisty, but if I hadn't been there, the
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: doctor might have been able to manipulate. It was off
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: the cuff. It was manipulative. The suggestion of made by
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: healthcare workers like in Lancaster's case, is something something would
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: be made illegal by the Alberta government if the new
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: proposed Bill eighteen were passed. So it's not illegal, it's
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: just not policy. They're not supposed to be doing it,
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: but they're not verboten from doing it. In other words.
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: If they want to suggest it, they can, it's just
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: not their job. They don't have to do that. The bill,
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: amongst other things, would ban healthcare providers from initiating conversations
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: on made So this is partly why I brought this
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: whole subject up. Every country that passes a bill like this,
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: that needs to be written into the initial bill. It
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: shouldn't be something you slap on later on after somebody
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: does some shit like this. It should always be you
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: can't bring this up. You can't initiate this conversation. The
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: patient has to do it.
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, if they want to die, then you have the conversation.
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: If you want them to die, that's again murder, isn't it.
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that alone would prevent insurance companies from saying, we
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: want cover your treatment, but will cover your death, will
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: cover you know, the hospital killing you. If they can't
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: initiate that conversation, if they can't suggest, as an alternative
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: to covering your treatment that you just die instead, then
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: then they would. It would prevent them from trying to
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: pressure people, and it would it would make it much
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: less likely for them to deny care for people who
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: have treatable conditions. Why is it let me scroll up.
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: XERANX gave us five dollars in a super chat and
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: said conspiracy theory. They focused on c nineteen and allowed
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: normal flu cases to go unchecked, and that's why the
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: death toll was higher. Possibly there were some other things
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: that happened that can can also contribute to that. For instance,
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: when when I was talking to the director of the
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: funeral home that took care of my dad's final arrangements,
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: one of the things that he one of the stories
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: that he told was that he received a death certificate
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: for a man who died in a motorcycle accident. The
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: accident was the indisputable cause of the death. It was
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: gruesome and brutal, and he wouldn't explain any further than that,
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: but it's a motorcycle, so you can probably imagine. But
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: the death certificate attributed the death to COVID. This was
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: a person that had my dad as a school teacher.
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: I met this guy when I was a little kid,
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: and he was like a high school kid and working
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: with my dad on my dad's yearbook staff when dad
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: was a yearbook advisor. So like, this is somebody I
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: know who personally witnessed this and and is a trustworthy
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: individual who would not just make up story like that.
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: And I just couldn't imagine, like, what the hell was that.
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: If they're doing that, then they're getting every cause of
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: pneumonia that that passed away. And when you look at
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: the death tolls from pneumonia and influenza during that time span,
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: there were far fewer deaths from both of those illnesses, right,
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: And because they were they were counting everything as a
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: COVID death, they basically overlooked a significant number of influenza
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: and pneumonia deaths like that. That was that was a
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: documented fact. And you know, there's there have been doctors
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: discussing that on YouTube. I know at least one of
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: them got a strike for it. But but yeah.
• 57:16
  Speaker 2: Everyone, everyone who died with a positive ah, everyone who
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: died and was tested positive for COVID was listed as
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: a COVID death except George Floyd. An exception was made
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: for George Floyd, who died with a with a positive
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: test for COVID. It's the weirdest thing, isn't it.
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: Yep, And that's very bizarre.
• 57:50
  Speaker 2: No one's even arguing about that. We're arguing about whether
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: he died from a knee to the neck, or he
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: died from the four times the lethal dose of fentanyl,
• 58:02
  Speaker 2: because the two most likely options, the least likely option
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: is that he died from COVID even though he tested
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: positive for COVID at his death. Yep, that just sort
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: of goes to show you that everyone was just playing
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: fast and loose with these diagnoses of COVID deaths, largely
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: because the tests were done with them with just this
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: bullshit that people would pass out with the swabs and whatnot.
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: Cast your mind back to twenty twenty and twenty twenty one,
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: when everyone was constantly sticking plastic sticks into their noses
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: and going, oh, thank god, I don't have COVID, or
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: oh shit, I do have COVID, and we're just assuming
• 59:01
  Speaker 2: that those tests were legitimate despite all kinds of things.
• 59:06
  Speaker 2: I did one of those ones because I tried to
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: coming to America in twenty twenty two or whatever it was,
• 59:17
  Speaker 2: and I had to get a COVID test in order
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: to even attempt it. It turns out it wasn't even able to.
• 59:25
  Speaker 2: But yeah, they had. They had these little clinics set
• 59:29
  Speaker 2: up all across the world where they where they would
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: stick a piece of plastic in your nose and then go, hooray,
• 59:37
  Speaker 2: you didn't you don't have COVID. But they also warned
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: you that if you if you've drunk coffee recently or
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: eaten anything that's high in vitamin C or high in
• 59:51
  Speaker 2: some kind of citric acid of some sort. Yeah, it
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: turns out there's all kinds of ways that these tests
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 2: can be corrupted based on what you've eaten or what
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 2: you've drunk.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: Oh that's great, So you could get a false negative
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: or a false positive.
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 2: All the time. Yeah, and but yeah, wait, we're still
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: led to believe that millions of people died because they
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 2: tested positive for COVID. Yeah, it's weird in it, it's
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 2: a bit.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 4: Weird, yep.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: But in any case, when you mix a system corrupt
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: enough to pull shit like that with another system corrupt
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: enough to let people die for money and then sell
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: their organs, you get the corrupt system from hell. Right,
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: So you can't have a law that allows a person
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: to kill another person without every failsafe you could possibly
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: imagine to specifically limit it to the one circumstance under
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: which people have been persuaded to accept that this is
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: an okay thing to do right, So otherwise you end
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: up in this situation with with you know, the Miss
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: Lancaster who was offered death as the primary treatment for
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: a highly treatable condition from which she recovered well enough
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: to resume being a world traveler. Xeranx sent us a
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: member chat on our YouTube channel member for twenty two
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: months level spore message. Also, The Dead Zone starring Anthony
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: Michael Hall had an episode of Oh yeah, there were
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: a bunch of coincidences like that, an episode on a
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: pandemic where they utilized a hydroxy clerquin as a treatment.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: He just said ACQ, but I'm pretty sure that's what
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: he meant. I think that was pre twenty ten. Yeah,
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: that was that was a while ago. That was a
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: while ago. It was an interesting, interesting series. But yeah,
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: let's see what else we got here. Oh and uh
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: j O Balls three five four seven says compounding pharmacy.
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: So that's what That's what I always want to say,
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: combining because they combine the meds. But it's it is
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: compounding pharmacy. It's essentially they manufacture some medications there instead
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: of ordering them already put together. So the bill, among
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: other things, would ban healthcare providers from initiating conversations I
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: made when asked about this provision and the bill. This
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: is what Lancaster and Weaver had to say. I think
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: that's great. I hand it to the officials in Alberta
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: for presenting this. This is a perfectly reasonable safeguard to
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: avoid predatory doctors manipulating consciously or unconsciously patience when they're vulnerable.
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: So here's why I don't hand it to them, right.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: I am pretty sure that they voted for that bill,
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: the original bill, the made bill when it passed without
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: that provision in it. Nobody probably brought it up, or
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: if somebody did, they got talked out of it and
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: did not have it in the original law. Why the
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: hell not. They will police what you can eat, They
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: will police what medicines you can take. They will police
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: you out of being able to take safe medicines. We
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: saw that during the COVID crisis. But you they'll even
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: police what you can say in Canada. Right, But they
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: don't want to prevent predatory arrangements from taking place in
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: the hospital. They don't think it's necessary to ensure that
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: if a doctor happens to be a little unscrupulous, maybe
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: not fully respectable, not fully trustworthy. That there's a safeguard
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: to protect a patient from getting killed. You can't have ibermectin,
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: but your doctor can suggest that you should die for
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: having a broken hip. Perfectly reasonable safeguard.
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 4: YEP.
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: I respect everyone's views, added Weaver. Maybe it isn't for us,
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: for our family, maybe it is for someone else's. I
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: don't judge, but I do not think it should be
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: offered to healthy people who have still got a zessed
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: for life and who haven't mentioned it themselves. It's completely inappropriate,
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: and it's distressing to the patient. Yeah, when somebody looks
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: at you and goes you want to die, it's kind
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: of distressing to advise maide right away prior to any
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: other forms of treatment being offered. Creates a distrust in
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: the healthcare system and professionals who work within. It creates distrust.
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: You think, like, I could think of fifty reasons why
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: this is a bad thing that come before creating distrust,
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: the top one being this is murder. This is attempted murder.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: People who could be just fine two months later might
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: be killed instead. Imagine what this might do to families.
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: Imagine how predators might use this, especially if there is
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: a pretty big market for human organ donation.
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 2: I mean imagine going imagine going to a hospital saying
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 2: can you please save my life, and they say what
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 2: best I could do is end your life.
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 2: Imagine if you have police and you get assaulted in
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 2: the street by some vagrants and the police slam you
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 2: against a wall and arrest you on account of having
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 2: been assaulted by those vagrants. Oh yeah, that's also happening, yep,
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 2: at least in the UK. Imagine if you went to
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 2: the government that is supposed to put the people of
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 2: that country first, and they put the people of that
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 2: country last. I mean, imagine that such a thing. Why
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 2: would such a thing ever occur? It would never occur.
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 2: Don't worry, it's not happening.
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: If the bar is moved from we'll do this for
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: people who are going to be guaranteed otherwise a long
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: torturous death from some illness that's going to slowly rot
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: their system or break down their bones or drown them
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: or otherwise just torture them to death. And the bar
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: has been moved too. Not just treatable conditions, but a
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 1: minor fracture, a fracture that you could get treated and
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 1: so the bone will heal and you can get it
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: treated well enough that you can go places and do
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 1: things afterward that you have to be pretty healthy to
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: be able to go and do them. That's the equivalent there.
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 4: It is.
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 1: Are they going to do this if a thirty year
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: old breaks a bone? But if you have lifelong profound depression? Oh,
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: they are already killing depression patients in Canada now. Depression
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: patients in Canada are dying now by made right the
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: rape victim in Spain, that could happen in Canada. And
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 1: the problem with that isn't what crime she suffered. The
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: problem is the lack of help, the lack of recovery,
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: and then the lack of ability to take it back
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: when she realized that she didn't want to die because
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: some other people might want her organs. Can you imagine
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: the nightmares? You know, there's this phenomenon of people who
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 1: receive organs where they exhibit personality traits or they have
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: dreams that turn out to be parts of the life
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: story of the person whose organ that they received without
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: having the knowledge for that to have manifested. And it's
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: been documented in multiple cases. Very odd. There's not really
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: been a solid explanation given for why that happens. But
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: I can think of a great horror story plot where
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: somebody gets an organ like that and they're plagued for
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 1: the rest of their life with nightmares about this girl
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: being executed by the medical system so that they could
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: harvest her organs and sell them like that. You know,
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: I'd be like the Telltale heart, but instead of it
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: being under the floorboards, that's in your chest. Pretty fucked up.
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: And I can't imagine being trapped in the nightmare of
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 1: these people are going to kill me and there's nothing
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: I can do about it because the state is behind it.
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: And I didn't even do anything wrong. I was the victim.
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: That must have been absolutely horrifying. Like I don't think
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: people would buy a horror story like that because it
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: would upset them so much. But this was real. This
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: was somebody's real life. Because there are not safeguards to
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 1: stop that from happening in the law in Spain, and
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: they are not safeguards to stop this shit from happening
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: in Canada unless that law passed. If a doctor is
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: advising made you think, my goodness, this person who is
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 1: supposed to have my best interests at heart because this
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: is what this is what I should be doing, states Weaver.
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 1: It leaves you very shaken. You don't need that kind
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 1: of uncertainty when you're already on weell. If people want
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: a request made, it's not our choice. We can respect that,
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 1: but doctors must not offer it. It is just wrong
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 1: to boot. Lancaster has continued to maintain her health and
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 1: is traveling, having previously gone to Cuba, Mexico, and Guatemala.
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: Not the activities of an ill individual, She's now planning
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 1: on going to Seattle by the end of the month.
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 1: I was just gonna say, Guatemala, you know, it's a
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 1: place you want to be careful in, although I don't
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 1: think it. I don't know if it's as bad as
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 1: it was when my grandparents went there as missionaries, but
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 1: they they had to be super careful when they were there.
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: This woman is going to Seattle. Ye, Okay, Guatemala is
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 1: not so bad. She climbed a volcano in Guatemala, but
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 1: in Seattle she's could have run into woke ideologues that
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 1: are rioting in the streets, taking people's pets out of
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 1: their houses and killing them.
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 2: In Guatemala, you'll you'll you'll approach mobsters who will take
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 2: you as a hostage and demand money for your release.
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 2: If you go to Seattle, they'll just fucking kill you.
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, what do you think?
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 2: Twice about it? I just feel like, who, who the
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 2: fuck is this white bitch? Kill her?
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, steal her ship.
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 1: When we were in Mexico, she was taking cooking classes
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 1: and making her own tacos. It says, hello, hello, ah,
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 1: we do have a Richard.
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah. It's like, it's like Kenny. It's Kenny of nine
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 4: degrees here now, And so.
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, I'm ignorant of what twenty nine
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 1: degrees feels like in the UK, but in the US
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 1: it's fucking freezing. That's thirty two degrees is the temperature
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 1: at which water freezes in the US, because we go
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: by fahrenheit. I have to look this up. I feel
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 1: bad I should know this. I've looked this up often
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: enough because some dipshit accidentally reset or recalibrated the digital
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 1: thermometer that I use at work. But okay, so it's
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 1: an equivalent of about eighty four point two degrees here,
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 1: but which is pretty warm if there's humidity that makes
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 1: it excruciatingly warm. Yeah, I should probably not tell you
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 1: that we had temperatures up in the high nineties and
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 1: low hundreds over here.
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 4: Also also the kind social care as well in the
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 4: UK and the and the and they're putting people that
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 4: want they want discipline benefits against the British public. So
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 4: the plan is the plan story is about people disability
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 4: taking advantagal system which is which is very rare in itself.
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 1: It's probably not easy to get disability in the UK, is.
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 4: It No, because people think it's easy to get discipline
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 4: in the UK and it's not.
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that makes sense, you know. The the reason that
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 1: these kinds of things are a men's issue though, there's
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 1: two things. So first of all, all of these types
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 1: of things are funded from some sort of taxation. They
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 1: might call it something different, but it's still a tax.
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 1: It's the government taking money skimming off of your paycheck.
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 1: If you get a paycheck to pay for this system,
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 1: that redistributes some of it. After the government takes its cut,
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 1: and uh.
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 4: And you still got tax and you still get taxing
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 4: your benefits as well.
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 1: Yep, then they tax it again, they take some of
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 1: it back.
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 4: That's crazy because the British public think you don't get
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 4: tax on your benefits what you do? So and I
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 4: stand by and I stand by my slower against the British.
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 1: Public, which is, are you allowed to say it that they're.
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 4: They're retarded on every on every subject, especially the benefits.
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 1: That's where you are allowed to say it. But uh, yep,
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 1: in any case, Yeah, it's it's a men's issue for
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 1: that reason alone. But it's also a men's issue because
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 1: that's the that's also the retirement system, right yeah, so.
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 4: So so pension this class as a benefit as well.
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 4: Even the pension is don't really believe it's a benefit,
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 4: but but pension is a is a benefit?
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 1: Is a benefit, right yeah? Paid for out of that
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 1: and of course.
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 4: So so on. I've been dealing with water fans. I've
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 4: been dealing with people who don't like because I claim benefit.
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so of course it's a if it's a retirement
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 1: type benefit like pension is retirement. What is the average
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 1: British lifespan by sex? We'll look at this, So the
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 1: average lifespan is from birth is it's seventy nine point
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 1: one years for males and eighty three point zero years
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 1: for females, So females live an average of about three
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 1: years longer than males right now, there have been points
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 1: in history where females lived five or more years longer.
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 1: They look at boys and girls born in twenty twenty
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 1: three and the projection is eighty six point seven years
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 1: for boys and ninety years for girls. So there's it's
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 1: they're expecting the gap to increase again. And this has
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 1: been a fairly common thing throughout at least you know,
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 1: more recently recorded history, that death gap where on average,
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 1: women outlive men by between four and ten years, depending
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 1: on what country and what life circumstances, whether they're poorer
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 1: or whether they're upper class, and things like that. But
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 1: people who would live on a pension are at the
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 1: lower income level, right because otherwise they would have their
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 1: own money, they wouldn't rely on a pension from the state,
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 1: and they've probably worked hard for what they did have,
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 1: and more likely than not, the death gap is a
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 1: little wider for them than say the upper classes. So
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 1: very often you see men not getting to enjoy their
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 1: pension benefits because they retire and then they have a
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 1: heart attack and die, or they do, but not for
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 1: as long as the wife does.
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 4: That's what happens in the black community as well. So
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 4: the males may be pension its, but like you said,
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 4: they might not they might not get to enjoy it.
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 1: All right, And then if we see this law passed,
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 1: that makes it even worse because a lot of times
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 1: what you have is if a thing like Parkinson's or
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 1: Alzheimer's dementia causing disorder is going to hit, it'll hit
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 1: at a younger age in men because they have lived
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 1: harder than women. If they're going to have physical disability
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 1: from a heart attack. For instance, if you're your heart
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 1: attack leaves you with lower function in your heart after
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 1: you survive it. My dad had for the last ten
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 1: years of his life, his heart was operating at about
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 1: twenty five percent efficiency, which is incredibly low for a survivor,
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 1: and it was very difficult for him to use his
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 1: legs because you require a good blood flow for the
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 1: muscles in your legs to get enough energy, enough oxygen
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 1: and nutrients to operate. And so it doesn't just weaken
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 1: the muscles, it also just keeps them from doing what
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 1: they could do regardless of their size and strength. And
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 1: you have two types of wife, right, You have the
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 1: wife who adores her husband until he's gone and maybe
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 1: even after, and would just move heaven in her for him.
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 1: And then you have most women, and most women will
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 1: move their husband into a nursing home, or they will
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 1: move with him into a nursing home. Maybe, but he's
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 1: definitely going to be in a nursing home under that
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 1: circumstance because they won't be able to manage and they
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 1: won't try. They want they'll want to leave the difficult
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 1: parts of his care to somebody else. And it's it's
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 1: just a bit of realism for you. You know, if
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 1: if at that age you go through what my dad
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 1: went through when you didn't marry someone like my mom,
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 1: you you can say goodbye to your home. I can
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 1: hear myself from somebody else. Oh it's you, Mike, I
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 1: can see it. It's okay.
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 5: Uh.
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 1: But you know, my dad lived in his own home
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 1: until after Mom passed away, and his last six months
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 1: was between hospitals trying to treat something that ultimately contributed
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 1: to his death. But he never a nursing home, was
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 1: never his home. He never lived in a nursing home.
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 1: Mom would never have allowed that. And uh, we weren't
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 1: going to do that. Well, we're gonna we were going
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 1: to figure something out. We had a whole plan in
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 1: place and everything to bring him home, and his body
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 1: just couldn't. There were just too many things going on.
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 1: But a lot of women in that situation, let's say,
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 1: I just can't deal with this. This is this is
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 1: the situation. You're gonna have to go in a home.
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 1: We're going to sell the house and pay the pay
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 1: the nursing home, and this is where we're going to
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 1: live until we die. And I think they're making a
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 1: good decision, right. Guess where your pension goes. If you
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 1: live in a nursing home, they get it first. If
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 1: you have any money left over, you get an allowance.
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 1: You don't get to go travel with it.
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 4: That's what happened to my mom. Yep. They took a
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 4: state they took a state pension, and the private pension.
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 1: Yep. They take everything. And uh, I mean, if somebody
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 1: doesn't have other people to take care of them, then
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 1: that's the only option you've got. But if there's you know,
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 1: if somebody's in a health condition where they have to
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 1: have a nurse on call twenty four to seven, that
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 1: may be the only situation, only only option you've got, right,
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 1: But if if somebody's in a situation like my dad was,
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 1: he just needed to have somebody in the house to
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 1: make sure he was okay.
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 4: We did have that. We did have that for like
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 4: a year. Yeah, she got too far for it.
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Sometimes sometimes the minch it goes one way. And
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 1: like my my grandmother was just pretty quiet when she
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 1: was she had dementia. But sometimes I've worked with violent
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 1: dementia patients. I had uh when one guy, everybody warned
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 1: me about uh and they they had stories of him
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 1: throwing his bed across the room, and we're all like,
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 1: he can't pick up the hospital bed. That's not possible.
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 1: That's that thing has to weigh, you know, like a
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 1: couple hundred pounds. There's no way.
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 4: The manchesterfers will.
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 1: Yep, and uh it is. I actually came in there
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 1: immediately after he had done it.
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 4: Once Mom kicked me my stomach. So Mom kicked me
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 4: my stomach. I ran across the room. Oh jeez, yeah,
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 4: and then she punched me more. Then she punched me
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 4: on my chest.
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 1: It's dangerous.
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 4: A couple of times.
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I've been bitten by dementia patients too. When
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 1: you're that's that's the other thing. Human beings. We can
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 1: be anibalistic when we're scared, and if you don't know
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 1: what's going on around you, you know, you can hurt people.
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 1: So there are there are situations where nursing home is inevitable,
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 1: but there are a lot of situations where women will
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 1: put a husband in a nursing home when it's not inevitable,
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 1: just it's in You only live in hospice if you're dying.
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 1: You don't live in hospice if you're going.
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 4: To be.
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 1: In a plateau of bad health for ten years.
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 4: But she's she's skinny now, well.
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that happens also in nursing homes a lot because
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 1: you know, besides the fact that the food's not good,
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 1: if you need assistance when eating, you only get a
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 1: short span of time to eat. But that is our
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 1: news story for the day. Whoa, it's the I guess
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 1: there's more. You can see her on vacation as a
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 1: humongous drink. It's probably not that big, it's just closer
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 1: to the camera. And I guess that's the volcano she climbed.
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 1: She's recovered enough to is that a burrow or a
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 1: horse or pony? Maybe that's a pony. I was gonna say, dounkey, donkey,
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 1: maybe a donkey. It's small on my screen, but she said.
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 1: And when we were in Havana, she is a retired
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 1: piano teacher. She played with a five piece to hess
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 1: ensemble after recovering from the pelvic all after recovering from
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 1: the pelvic fracture, that they offered her maid to treat
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 1: Miriam's living life to the full, stated Weaver. My recovery
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 1: has been amazing and there was no need for me
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 1: to ever or even have been suggested, stated Miriam. They
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 1: put all the tags on this one. I just this
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 1: is This is exactly what I'm talking about, though. Anytime
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 1: that you have a law in place, anytime that you
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 1: have a law in place that allows a person to
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 1: do to another person something that under other circumstances would
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 1: be considered a violation of human rights, right say, to
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 1: kill them, to imprison them, to confiscate their property, to
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 1: override their choice on what to do with their physical body,
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 1: not their baby, but their physical body, to practice their
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 1: their religious beliefs or not practice any religious beliefs, to
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 1: be able to speak in their native language, anything like that.
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 1: If if you're giving somebody the right to override that
• 1:26:59
  Speaker 1: to take away a person's ability to live or you know,
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 1: be free or anything like that, maintain property that they have,
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 1: they have earned and built up. It's something that should
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 1: have every fail safe known demand on it. If you've
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 1: got a circumstance where people are accepting, okay, under this circumstance,
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 1: it's justified. We should be allowed to do it under
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 1: justice circumstance. If you don't do that, you get abuses.
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 1: In the US, imminent domain was created, for instance, for
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 1: the purpose of allowing roads to be built and military
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 1: to move through the country. And it wasn't made so
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 1: that private companies could confiscate people's private property and use
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 1: it for their own purposes without compensating them for it fairly.
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 1: But that's how it's being used, and it's being used
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 1: now with like it's been used in the past, with
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 1: big businesses that wanted to put corporate headquarters up, or
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 1: factories or store outlets, anything like that. Zoning laws changing.
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 1: So grandma and grandpa own a house when they pass
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 1: away and mom and dad inherit it, they can't live there.
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 1: Because it's now been rezoned as a business, So if
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 1: they don't want to put a business in it, they
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 1: have to sell it. And it doesn't matter if the
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 1: market's ten times worse than it was when grandma and
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 1: grandpa paid for it, and they're actually going to get
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 1: less money. And if some business wants it, you can't
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 1: turn them down. That's the way it's. It's these types
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 1: of laws, these types of government abuses are being used
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 1: in that manner now and today. Eminent domain domain in particular,
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 1: is being used to take away people's property for data centers.
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 1: They're making people move out of their homes and maybe
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 1: be able to get a new home, maybe not, maybe
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 1: get fair compensation, maybe not. You know, maybe it's not
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 1: fair in their mind. Maybe it's their family homestead going back,
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 1: you know, four or five generations. But then they have
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 1: to they have to vacate, they have to move out
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 1: so that data can live there. Something that is not
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 1: even physical can live there, not in the same sense
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 1: that we're physical anyway. Roboto one, two, three, four, five,
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 1: sixty seven gave us two dollars and said, if this
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 1: is the case, can be offered to Congress to all
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 1: the out of touch or barely alive politicians. First, Ah, yeah,
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 1: let Congress have made I don't know, but I do
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 1: know this. I don't want a law like this to
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 1: happen in my state. I don't like that there are
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 1: other states in my country that have laws like this,
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 1: and if we have to have a law like this,
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 1: like I do understand why this type of law gets passed.
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 1: I think that every way of corrupting it should be
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 1: anticipated and headed off with stipulations. You can't do this,
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 1: you can't do that, you must do this, you must
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 1: do that, in order to prevent things like insurance companies
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 1: saying well, we won't pay for your health care, but
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 1: will pay for you to be killed by the hospital,
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 1: or doctors saying, oh, you have a cut that need stitches, Well,
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 1: how about if we just kill you instead? Is that okay,
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 1: it won't hurt anymore. You won't have to get a shot, right.
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 1: We We want to not have people who are in
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 1: a moment of weakness too too sad to uh contemplate
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 1: their future, thinking that you know, they can take it back,
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 1: and then finding out later that nope, they can't. You
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 1: should that they have to have these failsafs that that
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 1: you can you can change your mind, and uh that
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 1: you can you know, be freed from having this imposed
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 1: on you bye by the fact that they can't mention it.
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 1: The insurance company can't deny care and offer this instead,
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 1: and uh, you can't be pressured into it. And I
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 1: think even if you were not an organ donor before
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 1: the made conversation, you shouldn't be able to come become
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 1: one after you sign up for MAID because that would
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 1: keep them from uh taking people's organs, you know, killing
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 1: people to take their organs. And there's already been some
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 1: instances where that's come out to hospitals letting people who
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 1: were organed owners die because they wanted their organs. So
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 1: I don't know has anybody else got anything to add
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 1: to that.
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 2: The advice of counsel, I respectfully declined to answer based
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 2: on my rights under the FED amendments of the Constitution.
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 4: It's come to the UK with it's coming to the
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 4: UK anyway.
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what that's what got this started. Actually, it
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 1: was you sending me that information that it was going
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 1: to be voted on again soon.
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 4: And plus plus fifth recent the social care and the
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 4: public tendon on disabled people.
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, in the previous article we read, I want
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 1: to remind everybody in fact, I can open it up.
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 1: I think, yeah, all the way at the bottom here, Yeah,
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 1: it was up here. The vast majority of disabled people
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 1: and their organizations oppose it. She said. They need the
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 1: health and social care system fixing first. They want us
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 1: as parliamentarians to assist them to live not die. That's
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 1: an important aspect discussion.
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 4: And the British properly think that young people can't be disabled.
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 1: Oh gosh, so I can tell everybody in my in
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 1: my class. When I was growing up, first first four
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 1: or four years, I went to school in kindergarten for
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 1: a second, third grade, I went to a school that
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 1: was tiny and didn't have this young man going to
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 1: school there. But from from fourth grade on I knew.
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 1: I knew this kid, Doug, who had muscular dystrophy and
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 1: it was very degenerative. It's started hitting him in the
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 1: second grade and by the time I met him, he
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 1: had an electric wheelchair and I only got to know
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 1: him for a few years. But the kids that went
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 1: to the school that I transferred to when my school
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 1: shut down, they got to know him for the whole time.
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 1: They were in school up to the seventh grade, so
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 1: eight years and a lot of kids, Like everybody's heart
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 1: broke when we lost Doug. It was an unbelievably fascinating
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 1: young man who he really was tough, you know, and
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 1: came to school in circumstances where he could just said
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 1: I wanna, I wanna stay at home and play all day, right,
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 1: But he didn't do that. He did normal kid things
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 1: and even to the point of finding ways to participate
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 1: in gym class even when he couldn't run and throw
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 1: things like dodgeball. He played dodgeball with us. We just
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 1: had special rules. His handlebars through the ball if it
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 1: hit the handlebar, and he could aim it. He could
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 1: with that thing around with his little joystick on the
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 1: on the arm of the wheelchair. But and of course
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 1: you couldn't bet him because it wasn't the same as
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 1: beaning somebody else. His muscles were flascid. He would get
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 1: bruises that that the rest of us wouldn't get, So
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 1: it gave us a challenge. He had the opportunity to
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 1: use that handlebar as a bat and it gets you back,
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 1: so he could get people out and he could dodge
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 1: so it was fair and we played like that, you know,
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 1: in gym class and out at recess and everything. Kid
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 1: was smart as a whip, but he was absolutely handicapped.
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 1: He had one hand that worked properly. He had no
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 1: use really of his legs that his other hand had
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 1: a lot more difficulty. Just like everybody else has a
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 1: good hand in a bad hand, he had a bad
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 1: hand in a worse hand. And the last week before
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 1: he went into the hospital for the last time, he
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 1: was so weak that his aid, his DSP, had to
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 1: help him hold his hand up. In class, he took
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 1: homework with him. When he went to the hospital. He
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 1: thought he was gonna come back, and he was in
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 1: the hospital for about a week before we lost him.
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 1: The whole class went to his funeral, and he was
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 1: handicapped from the time he was about eight years old
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 1: till the time he was about thirteen years old, and
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 1: then he passed away. The idea that kids can't be
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 1: handicapped as absolute bullshit. And obviously being handicapped isn't something
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 1: that he did on purpose. That was a genetic condition.
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 1: Some of the people that I've worked with are handicapped
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 1: because the doctor did something wrong and they were injured.
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 1: At birth, they had a lack of oxygen, or they
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 1: had physical damage from impact or other types of things
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 1: that can pressures on the body and things like that,
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 1: something that shouldn't get cut getting cut, introduction of bacteria.
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 1: And then some people have genetic conditions they can be
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 1: disabling and there are some genetic conditions that the child
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 1: can survive for the first three or four days before
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 1: they die. The idea that you can't become disabled until
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 1: you have an injury. Is anybody that thinks that is
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 1: beyond stupid? There isn't.
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 4: That's a lot of the britsh public.
• 1:38:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that to believe that you have to bury your head.
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 4: In the sand. Again, that's the Britsh media.
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 1: I wonder what they think of the Christmas story, the
• 1:38:36
  Speaker 1: Christmas Carol, Like was that kid disabled? Was Tiny Tim disabled?
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 1: Does he count? I wonder where do they think that
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 1: Dickens got the idea for that character, Like maybe people
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 1: who are campaigning for the public to better understand disabilities
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 1: in the UK auties start using tiny Him as a
• 1:39:01
  Speaker 1: mascot for disabled children.
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 4: The attacks of what the attacks on disabled people in
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 4: public have gone up again.
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 1: And see that's another one.
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 2: Is British and therefore he cannot be disabled. We have
• 1:39:21
  Speaker 2: to find disabled along racial and sexual lines, and thereby
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 2: tiny Tim is a straight white male, So fuck him,
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 2: God bless us no one.
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 1: When you say attacks on disabled people, do you mean
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 1: just you know, fifty to fifty genderless or is this
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 1: happening more to guys.
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 4: It's happening more to guys than it is to two women.
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 1: I kind of figured because it's a lot of harder
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 1: for people to attack women in public places.
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 4: If you're if you're learning disabled, and it's more prevalent,
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 4: they will attack you. If you're on a wheel chair,
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 4: I use a Morgan stick, they will attack you and
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 4: say why you're claiming benefits and stuff like that.
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know that's the other thing. Not everybody that
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 1: uses or that has a disability uses benefits. There's many,
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 1: many people who have to. But sometimes once in a
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 1: blue moon you run across somebody disabled whose family has
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 1: the money to provide care for them without using benefits,
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 1: and they do. But as far as as far as
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 1: this type of disability is concerned, and the type that
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 1: affects you in childhood, birth injuries can happen to anybody,
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 1: for you know, it's not necessarily a thing that happens
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 1: more to one gender than the other, although circumcision related
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 1: birth injuries pretty much only happened to girls. But genetic
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 1: genetic conditions go ahead.
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 4: Min I say, like an oxygen oxygen, Yeah, I was
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 4: right around the abetical code for too long.
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 1: And see that that can happen to both boys and girls.
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 1: But genetic conditions, those usually hit boys more than they
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 1: hit girls because there are more of them that sit
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 1: on the X chromosome than there are that sit on
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 1: the Y chromosome. And if you know, if a baby
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 1: has two X chromosomes, they have a fifty to fifty
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 1: chance of getting at least one that doesn't have a
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 1: disability that's existing on the other. So if it's a
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 1: sex linked disability and it sits on the X chromosome,
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 1: girls are not gonna be the ones hit with it.
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 1: It's going to be people who only get one X
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 1: and that'll be boys. For girls to be hit with it,
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 1: like two people with the same genetic condition would have to.
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 1: It's why they always say usually girls aren't hemophiliacs because
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 1: it's it's sex linked, and usually girls aren't hemophiliacs unless
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 1: there's been incest. But with such a large population, it's
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 1: actually possible for two X chromosome hemophilia carriers to get
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 1: together and have a girl and it's not incest, and
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 1: they could still be a hemopheliac. But with a lot
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 1: of conditions like the condition I have, people wouldn't look
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 1: at me and say, oh, you're disabled, right. But while
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 1: most people, if they get whiplash, they'll be down for
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 1: maybe maybe a few days, maybe a few weeks, it
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 1: took me out for eight months one time because my
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 1: body wouldn't heal. I have a connective tissue disorder called
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 1: Ailor's dan Loos syndrome, and it's you can't see it.
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 1: I have this weird thing that happens when I get
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 1: up from sitting still for a long time, I can't
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 1: stand straight up. It hurts, and then sometimes I can't walk. Yeah,
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 1: so you know what I'm talking about. You have to
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 1: you have to warm up right you stand, yeah, and
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 1: then you have to slowly down to get ready. Yeah,
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 1: work out the kinks.
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 2: In Victoria was a hemophiliac, by the way, which is
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 2: genetically impossible unless there's an enormous amount of fraud in
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 2: the royal family.
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but yeah, well, and you can be a bleeder
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 1: without being a hemophiliac too, because that's hemophilia is a
• 1:43:45
  Speaker 1: particular genetic condition. But for instance, if I get a
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 1: deep cut, it's harder for me to stop bleeding because
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 1: the connective tissue disorder. There's different types. There's like thirteen
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 1: different types of BDS, and I have the one that
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 1: it affects the blood vessels, which's very dangerous. It can
• 1:44:03
  Speaker 1: cause strokes and brain bleeds, hemorrhage, it causes joint bleeds
• 1:44:10
  Speaker 1: and all kinds of So I used to be incredibly
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 1: stretchy when I was a kid, and now I'm incredibly stiff.
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 4: Uh.
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 1: And it's gonna it's not gonna get better, right, But
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 1: there are kids that have it that you know, like
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 1: I was very stretchy, but not catastrophically so, but there
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 1: are kids they can't walk across the room without putting
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 1: their hip out because they have it so bad. And
• 1:44:37
  Speaker 1: they don't look like if you just look at them
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 1: standing there, they don't look disabled until something like that happens.
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 1: Disability is broad and it and it does affect boys
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 1: more than girls in a few different ways.
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 4: Also, the bread public think if you want to or
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 4: chat that you can't stand up or walk.
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 1: I take care lots of people that need a wheelchair
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 1: most of the time, but they can stand up and
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 1: walk sometimes.
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 4: Because the first public is stupid.
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 1: Some people can walk anywhere they want to go. And
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 1: then some people can't walk on uneven ground or maybe
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 1: they can't walk more than two hundred feet. You know,
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 1: some people can't walk without somebody holding onto a gate belt.
• 1:45:22
  Speaker 1: So that that's a gate belt is it's a couple
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 1: inches wide, maybe an inch and a half and wraps
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 1: around your midsection so that somebody else can hold onto
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 1: it and help you keep your balance, keep you from
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 1: falling down. And you know, sometimes people have a mobility
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 1: issues that at the age of ten or eleven years old,
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 1: the diagnosis is a disability like cerebral palsy, but they
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 1: are able to walk and maybe even run at that age.
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 1: But as they get older, the condition becomes degenerative because
• 1:46:03
  Speaker 1: it makes everything that an individual does harder than it
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 1: is for anybody else to do it. And any if
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 1: you don't keep up and exercise regimen and make yourself
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 1: work super hard to maintain your your mobility, you lose
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 1: it quickly and even if you do maintain and exercise
• 1:46:30
  Speaker 1: regimen to try to maintain your mobility, you'll still lose
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 1: it slowly. You just you lose it faster than other
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 1: people lose theirs as they're aging. That's what's happening to me, yep,
• 1:46:44
  Speaker 1: and me, and you know, it's just happening to you
• 1:46:48
  Speaker 1: faster than it's happening to me. And this is this
• 1:46:52
  Speaker 1: is the reality for people with disabilities. And very often
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 1: there's two things that change the way PEP people think
• 1:47:00
  Speaker 1: about disabled guys. One of them is guys have more
• 1:47:06
  Speaker 1: of a tendency to try to be independent. My friend
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 1: Derek from high school was in the journalism club with me,
• 1:47:14
  Speaker 1: and he was on a school newspaper and on a
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 1: school yearbook and he was a photographer. It helped a
• 1:47:21
  Speaker 1: lot he had cerebral palsy. It helped a lot. That
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 1: auto focused cameras were a thing. They were new for us,
• 1:47:30
  Speaker 1: Like there were auto focus like the instant kind of cameras,
• 1:47:37
  Speaker 1: you know, the point and shoot cameras, but for a
• 1:47:40
  Speaker 1: single lens reflex to have auto focus lenses and everything,
• 1:47:44
  Speaker 1: like the heavy professionals had them, but the consumer usually
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 1: couldn't get them well in the nineties that became a thing,
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 1: and in the late eighties early nineties, so the photo
• 1:47:54
  Speaker 1: club got some and Derek joined the photo club when
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 1: he was in junior high my dad told the story
• 1:48:02
  Speaker 1: that I told a while back on here about the
• 1:48:05
  Speaker 1: young man that he coached in track that had been
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 1: injured in a car accident and almost lost his leg,
• 1:48:11
  Speaker 1: and how hard it was for him to recover, and
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 1: how badly he wanted to join the track team anyway.
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 1: Like It took me so many tries doing that story too,
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 1: because it made me cry every time I read it.
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 1: But Derek heard that story and he joined the track team.
• 1:48:33
  Speaker 1: He threw the shot put in the discus, and despite
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 1: having less control over his limbs than the other kids did,
• 1:48:43
  Speaker 1: he was above average, which was quite an accomplishment for
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 1: someone with cerebral palsy. And so like guys do that,
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 1: they try, they strive. They don't want to accept not
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 1: being able to do things. They got to try, right,
• 1:49:02
  Speaker 1: Whereas girls their instinct is to ask for help. You know,
• 1:49:10
  Speaker 1: it's not always that way. I had a teacher, Ms.
• 1:49:14
  Speaker 1: Thompson in junior high school who had polio when she
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 1: was ten, and she was in about the same boat
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 1: as Doug. She had an electric wheelchair, she had pretty
• 1:49:24
  Speaker 1: good use of one hand and not as good use
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 1: of the other, no use of her legs. And she
• 1:49:31
  Speaker 1: handled as a teacher the worst age group of kids
• 1:49:36
  Speaker 1: outside of kindergarten thirteen year olds and fourteen year olds,
• 1:49:41
  Speaker 1: and in one of the classes that they treat as
• 1:49:44
  Speaker 1: the most boring, English and reading. And she kept discipline
• 1:49:51
  Speaker 1: in her class. She commanded the respect of the kids,
• 1:49:55
  Speaker 1: and she did a great job. She was a terrific teacher.
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 1: But not everybody can do that.
• 1:50:05
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 1:50:05
  Speaker 1: Not everybody can overcome things like that. And when you
• 1:50:09
  Speaker 1: see it happen, it's it's more often guys, And a
• 1:50:15
  Speaker 1: lot of times the system isn't very forgiving. You try
• 1:50:19
  Speaker 1: to not be disabled. When you're disabled, the system decides
• 1:50:23
  Speaker 1: that you must be right, and they'll take it away
• 1:50:25
  Speaker 1: from you, so you don't have a safety net to
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 1: fall back on if you fail, and people will look
• 1:50:32
  Speaker 1: at you and say, well, look how hard he's trying.
• 1:50:34
  Speaker 1: He must be able to do something right. And sometimes
• 1:50:37
  Speaker 1: it's true. I just met a minister who's in a
• 1:50:41
  Speaker 1: wheelchair that has to have an interpreter to talk because
• 1:50:47
  Speaker 1: he doesn't have a voice working voice box. You can't see,
• 1:50:51
  Speaker 1: can't really hear, and he's working. But it's it's you
• 1:50:58
  Speaker 1: have to be able to have the right fail if
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 1: you're disabled. More people I think would try if they
• 1:51:05
  Speaker 1: could do that, especially more men, and you might have
• 1:51:09
  Speaker 1: more succeeding if they had that safety net. But unfortunately,
• 1:51:16
  Speaker 1: with the British press making people angry at the disabled
• 1:51:20
  Speaker 1: instead of the politicians who are wasting everybody's money and
• 1:51:26
  Speaker 1: bringing in immigrants that are making things a living hell
• 1:51:31
  Speaker 1: for some of the people in the country and otherwise
• 1:51:35
  Speaker 1: just fucking things up generally, they're blaming people who can't
• 1:51:39
  Speaker 1: even control what's happening to them. That's pretty bad and
• 1:51:42
  Speaker 1: they can only get away with it because these people
• 1:51:49
  Speaker 1: often don't have a voice for themselves.
• 1:51:51
  Speaker 4: They also play the disabled people for the devest that's
• 1:51:54
  Speaker 4: having to crash as well. You know what if I
• 1:51:59
  Speaker 4: not question.
• 1:52:01
  Speaker 1: If you have to be a pretty big part of
• 1:52:03
  Speaker 1: the economy for that to happen.
• 1:52:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they played for that.
• 1:52:09
  Speaker 1: So mister three ozho three says large Mohammed is definitely disabled.
• 1:52:13
  Speaker 1: Who is large Mohammed? Is that a I okay? So
• 1:52:19
  Speaker 1: mister three oh three is gonna have to explain that
• 1:52:20
  Speaker 1: to me in the after show, which we're probably gonna
• 1:52:23
  Speaker 1: head to here soon, because I think we've gotten all
• 1:52:27
  Speaker 1: the discussion, just about all the discussion we're going to
• 1:52:30
  Speaker 1: get out of the story.
• 1:52:33
  Speaker 4: She should not been named us like in Cells Done long.
• 1:52:37
  Speaker 1: Uh surprise, Yeah, let's see we haven't. Did I read
• 1:52:44
  Speaker 1: the one from Richard Bierre about soilent green. If not,
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 1: he gave us five dollars and said, coming soon the
• 1:52:49
  Speaker 1: grocery store shelves everywhere. Look for soilent green at your
• 1:52:52
  Speaker 1: favorite grocery store. Hey, Richard, guess what. There's a there's
• 1:52:58
  Speaker 1: a it's it's soy. There's a there's a soy based
• 1:53:04
  Speaker 1: nutritional supplement beverage called soilent s O y Eli and T.
• 1:53:09
  Speaker 1: I do not know who thought this was good marketing, Okay,
• 1:53:12
  Speaker 1: but they sell it in different formulas, and each formula
• 1:53:17
  Speaker 1: has a color, and one of those colors is green.
• 1:53:20
  Speaker 1: So you can go to a store in the US
• 1:53:23
  Speaker 1: and and that sells this type of nutritional supplement and
• 1:53:27
  Speaker 1: you can buy soilent green today.
• 1:53:29
  Speaker 4: So now I'll tell the movie.
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 1: I guess not. Now they can't do a remake, but
• 1:53:40
  Speaker 1: uh it, it exists. It's a real thing.
• 1:53:44
  Speaker 4: They haven't don logan swan.
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  Speaker 1: I see if I can find a green one. Yeah,
• 1:53:52
  Speaker 1: this this here's age of what it looks like. You
• 1:53:58
  Speaker 1: see if I can get it to This is the packaging.
• 1:54:01
  Speaker 1: That's the chocolate one, right. I don't remember what flavor
• 1:54:05
  Speaker 1: the green one. It's a meal replacement drink. But I
• 1:54:07
  Speaker 1: don't remember what flavor of the green one is, but
• 1:54:09
  Speaker 1: it exists. It's real. Let's see if I can find
• 1:54:18
  Speaker 1: a picture on the here's a picture of it on
• 1:54:22
  Speaker 1: the shelf, but you can't read it, so I still
• 1:54:24
  Speaker 1: don't know what flavor that is. But there's the green
• 1:54:26
  Speaker 1: one right there, so it probably is. You can find
• 1:54:34
  Speaker 1: soilent green now. But there we go. So then we
• 1:54:45
  Speaker 1: have Richard Pierre also gave us five dollars and said, hospitals,
• 1:54:49
  Speaker 1: we're getting handsome reimbursement from the government for every reported
• 1:54:52
  Speaker 1: COVID case and deaths. Makes me wonder what kind of
• 1:54:55
  Speaker 1: reimbursement structure there is for so many medical centers having
• 1:54:58
  Speaker 1: such a plethora, plethora of transgender patients that have become
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 1: so widespread. That's a possibility too, they might be getting
• 1:55:07
  Speaker 1: an amount per per head. Oh yes, tiny, tim large Muhammed,
• 1:55:13
  Speaker 1: I see what you did there, mister three or three?
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  Speaker 4: Oh okay, and both the conservatives in the camp about
• 1:55:19
  Speaker 4: the transferring into a gill Side transition.
• 1:55:22
  Speaker 1: True, true, I.
• 1:55:24
  Speaker 4: Keep saying that to them. I keep saying that to them,
• 1:55:26
  Speaker 4: and they block me. They probably every time.
• 1:55:29
  Speaker 1: Of course, of course, I think we did a show
• 1:55:33
  Speaker 1: about that actually when it started suddenly happening that you know,
• 1:55:38
  Speaker 1: autistic girls were transing. But uh, yeah, because I remember
• 1:55:42
  Speaker 1: Karen talking about it, you know, like just because you're
• 1:55:45
  Speaker 1: different doesn't mean you have to become the opposite sex,
• 1:55:49
  Speaker 1: and you can be different and identify as who you are.
• 1:55:53
  Speaker 1: But yeah, in the meantime, next week, let's see, I
• 1:56:00
  Speaker 1: think this was Yeah, this is what we just went over. Yeah,
• 1:56:09
  Speaker 1: I think this is what I had in mind. Next
• 1:56:12
  Speaker 1: and this is the actual uh paper. This one's a
• 1:56:19
  Speaker 1: little drier, but there has has been some discussion about
• 1:56:27
  Speaker 1: how bad it's gotten in Canada, and so I definitely
• 1:56:31
  Speaker 1: want to take a look at some of the bits
• 1:56:34
  Speaker 1: from this next week. And uh, I think we also
• 1:56:42
  Speaker 1: have the bill. Yeah, this is the bill that is
• 1:56:51
  Speaker 1: actually up in the UK for an upcoming vote. I
• 1:56:57
  Speaker 1: don't know how soon the next vote will be or
• 1:57:01
  Speaker 1: how long it will take for it to become law.
• 1:57:03
  Speaker 4: After that, I probably be in September because they're in
• 1:57:06
  Speaker 4: resource at a minute.
• 1:57:08
  Speaker 1: Ah. That is always good when they're not there because
• 1:57:11
  Speaker 1: they're not making laws like this. But so we've we've
• 1:57:16
  Speaker 1: got a little bit more to do on this, and
• 1:57:21
  Speaker 1: then once we're done with that, there are a couple
• 1:57:24
  Speaker 1: of other things that have already got waiting in the wings.
• 1:57:27
  Speaker 1: One of them is this fair into Relationships, which is
• 1:57:36
  Speaker 1: a bill that that's under discussion too. It's essentially a
• 1:57:42
  Speaker 1: calimony bill for the UK. And then there was something
• 1:57:48
  Speaker 1: that you sent me to Richard that I think I
• 1:57:54
  Speaker 1: don't think I opened or kept it open, but it
• 1:57:59
  Speaker 1: was another It was another thing that I uh, I
• 1:58:03
  Speaker 1: think that needs to be talked about, like actually discussed
• 1:58:07
  Speaker 1: on the show. It was before the thing about adults
• 1:58:14
  Speaker 1: with disabilities, So I'll have to go back and look.
• 1:58:19
  Speaker 1: It might have been the thing about men dropping out
• 1:58:21
  Speaker 1: of society.
• 1:58:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that, Yeah, that goes It's like like
• 1:58:27
  Speaker 4: that's a that's a waitress that you're called LBC and
• 1:58:31
  Speaker 4: they keep fed in lives about why men are dropping
• 1:58:34
  Speaker 4: out and they don't get.
• 1:58:36
  Speaker 1: To the root of that they're not going to because
• 1:58:39
  Speaker 1: they want to. There there's a attitude that people have
• 1:58:43
  Speaker 1: toward men. They think men will forever accept nagging is
• 1:58:47
  Speaker 1: a reason why they need to change what they're doing.
• 1:58:49
  Speaker 1: And I think men are figuring out that they they
• 1:58:52
  Speaker 1: can't let people nag them into giving their self interest.
• 1:58:57
  Speaker 1: So that's an up upcoming just dicussion as well, And
• 1:59:03
  Speaker 1: once we are done with that, I also have a
• 1:59:08
  Speaker 1: plan to discuss. There is a we may step in
• 1:59:15
  Speaker 1: before all of that with an article another Daily Mail article,
• 1:59:19
  Speaker 1: father is driven to suicide by the child maintenance service.
• 1:59:22
  Speaker 1: And then I also have a piece of research coming
• 1:59:25
  Speaker 1: up that I want to look at which kind of
• 1:59:29
  Speaker 1: turns the the common beliefs about who is the aggressor
• 1:59:36
  Speaker 1: and who is the victim in domestic violence situations on
• 1:59:40
  Speaker 1: its head.
• 1:59:42
  Speaker 4: I keep saying that somebody held that in the seventies,
• 1:59:45
  Speaker 4: but no one believe me.
• 1:59:48
  Speaker 1: Yep, that information has been around for a long time.
• 1:59:51
  Speaker 1: I believe there is recently a piece of research that
• 1:59:56
  Speaker 1: came out though, that I've been looking at that I
• 1:59:59
  Speaker 1: think gives us more confirmation. It's a more recent bit
• 2:00:08
  Speaker 1: of research on bi directional and unidirectional and partner intimate
• 2:00:12
  Speaker 1: partner violence. It's a review, comprehensive review of multiple studies,
• 2:00:20
  Speaker 1: so it's not just one thing, and it's done by
• 2:00:25
  Speaker 1: three women. But it did show a higher level of
• 2:00:29
  Speaker 1: abuse by women than previously believed and a higher level
• 2:00:35
  Speaker 1: of victimization of male victims than previously believed. So it's
• 2:00:40
  Speaker 1: definitely something we'll want to look at in the future
• 2:00:42
  Speaker 1: as well. So these are all things that are, like
• 2:00:46
  Speaker 1: I said, just upcoming. I'll give you an idea of
• 2:00:50
  Speaker 1: what our future shows are going to be. And then
• 2:00:53
  Speaker 1: there's some discussions that are coming up, probably about once
• 2:00:56
  Speaker 1: a month. I'll be doing a discussion with Alison, but
• 2:00:58
  Speaker 1: we're not ready to start that yet, so i'll give
• 2:01:00
  Speaker 1: you more information when we get closer to doing that.
• 2:01:05
  Speaker 1: The last thing is we will be doing another mixed
• 2:01:10
  Speaker 1: up meet up this year. It will be the last
• 2:01:13
  Speaker 1: Saturday in August. And I had a calendar up and
• 2:01:17
  Speaker 1: now I don't, and so I don't know the date
• 2:01:21
  Speaker 1: of the last last Saturday. I got a look, I
• 2:01:25
  Speaker 1: open up my stupid calendar again.
• 2:01:27
  Speaker 4: And conkents for it.
• 2:01:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe maybe we'll have to plan the one for
• 2:01:34
  Speaker 1: next year. This year instead of me waiting until a
• 2:01:39
  Speaker 1: few months before to get started. But let's see, So
• 2:01:45
  Speaker 1: the last Saturday in August is Saturday the twenty ninth,
• 2:01:51
  Speaker 1: and we're going back to tradition. We will be meeting
• 2:01:57
  Speaker 1: at the Right Patterson Air Force Museum. So it's on
• 2:02:07
  Speaker 1: right Patterson Air Force Base. And the reason that we're
• 2:02:11
  Speaker 1: starting there is because that's a safe place to start.
• 2:02:16
  Speaker 1: There isn't much more guarded in this area than the
• 2:02:21
  Speaker 1: the the base, and it is a it's a public venue,
• 2:02:25
  Speaker 1: so we can be there. They're gonna know we aren't
• 2:02:30
  Speaker 1: going to be disruptive, because only an idiot would go
• 2:02:33
  Speaker 1: on to a military base right now and be disruptive,
• 2:02:37
  Speaker 1: and we're not idiots.
• 2:02:39
  Speaker 4: Could have I could have won one.
• 2:02:42
  Speaker 1: There you go, and we'll spend some time at the
• 2:02:46
  Speaker 1: museum and uh and then we will go to our
• 2:02:50
  Speaker 1: secondary location from there, So anybody that wants to come,
• 2:02:54
  Speaker 1: it will be that Saturday. I'm going to be showing
• 2:02:58
  Speaker 1: up there. I think we should start art at about noon,
• 2:03:02
  Speaker 1: so I'm going to be showing up there at noon,
• 2:03:04
  Speaker 1: so I don't want to make it too early of
• 2:03:06
  Speaker 1: a thing. And then from there after we're done looking
• 2:03:13
  Speaker 1: at the museum. Then we'll go to the second venue.
• 2:03:17
  Speaker 1: We can caravan there. It's not a great distance, it's
• 2:03:21
  Speaker 1: it's a couple of miles through the city and not
• 2:03:26
  Speaker 1: too many turns to get there either. But I can
• 2:03:28
  Speaker 1: give everybody the information once you are at the museum,
• 2:03:34
  Speaker 1: and that I'm doing to prevent harassment of any venue,
• 2:03:39
  Speaker 1: because only an idiot would harass a venue that is
• 2:03:43
  Speaker 1: on a military base. And nobody's going to be able
• 2:03:47
  Speaker 1: to harass the venue if they don't know what it is,
• 2:03:49
  Speaker 1: the second venue, if they don't know what it is, right,
• 2:03:53
  Speaker 1: So there you go. So if you want to, I
• 2:03:56
  Speaker 1: will definitely be there. I believe Brian's going to be there,
• 2:04:00
  Speaker 1: going to try to get Mike and Lauren. Don't know
• 2:04:03
  Speaker 1: how that's gonna work. We may end up having to
• 2:04:05
  Speaker 1: try to do a fundraiser or something to get them there.
• 2:04:11
  Speaker 1: And you know, we don't have an iPad robot. Sorry,
• 2:04:16
  Speaker 1: mister Roboto. Mister Roboto one, two, three, four, five, six
• 2:04:19
  Speaker 1: seven says gave us a dollar and said, well, Allison
• 2:04:22
  Speaker 1: zoom in via iPad robot. But we may be able
• 2:04:26
  Speaker 1: to get in touch with her and other you know,
• 2:04:30
  Speaker 1: just a regular discord call or something, but there you go.
• 2:04:37
  Speaker 1: So with that, I will thank everybody for listening. I
• 2:04:41
  Speaker 1: hope we will get some people wanting to attend the
• 2:04:46
  Speaker 1: Mixed Up meet up and I'll try to make a
• 2:04:51
  Speaker 1: post about it in the next couple of days on
• 2:04:54
  Speaker 1: the HBB blog and on breaking the Glasses and uh
• 2:05:00
  Speaker 1: mm hmm. Yeah, I'm not going to make a pleading
• 2:05:03
  Speaker 1: the fifth joke. That's my that's gonna be all Mike.
• 2:05:08
  Speaker 1: So thanks everybody, and good night all. We will see
• 2:05:12
  Speaker 1: you next Thursday.