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- 0:01Welcome to Talking FACS, what you need to know about family,
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- 0:31I'm your host, Mindy McCulley, Extension Specialist for Instructional Support
- 0:36with Family and Consumer Sciences Extension.
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- 0:43Perhaps you've heard of the bourbon brood, and this might be something that's
- 0:48really piquing your ears right now.
- 0:50But it might not be something that you typically associate with bourbon.
- 0:56We're talking about periodical cicadas. My guest today is Dr.
- 1:01Jonathan Larson, an assistant extension professor with the Department of Entomology. Welcome, Jonathan.
- 1:07Thank you so much. I'm excited to be here. I think this is going to be a fun
- 1:11discussion because I don't normally get to talk bugs on Talking FACS,
- 1:16and they have such a fun title. We love alliteration.
- 1:19And of course, anything bourbon sounds like fun, but I'm not sure that bourbon
- 1:24and bugs really are my favorite topic.
- 1:27But tell me about the bourbon brood. The bourbon brood, it's kind of a name
- 1:31that we came up with over in Department of Entomology for this particular emergence of cicadas.
- 1:36We thought it would kind of brand it as Kentucky Proud.
- 1:40Bourbon is something that we strongly associate with the Commonwealth, of course.
- 1:43And the reason that we're kind of doing that is that this year's periodical
- 1:47cicada emergence, which is focused on Brood XIV.
- 1:50Brood 14 exists in multiple states kind of across the Appalachian region.
- 1:55But I would say the epicenter truly is Kentucky. It extends across many of our 120 counties.
- 2:01And a lot of places in Kentucky this summer are going to see periodical cicadas.
- 2:05So we wanted to kind of brand it, make a little more excitement for it within
- 2:08the state, and get people to associate it with Kentucky.
- 2:11I don't think that it's fully taken off as a marketing term quite yet,
- 2:15but maybe as things kick off and the cicadas start to sing, we'll see that change.
- 2:20So probably the Department of Tourism isn't going to pick up on Burden Brood
- 2:24as people come to see our cicadas, right?
- 2:28They haven't called yet. And what I really want to do is like get in with the bourbon industry.
- 2:33One of my dreams with this whole sort of shenanigan was to get a hold of like,
- 2:38I don't know, you know, Jim B.
- 2:39Walter, one of those companies and be like, maybe you could put some bourbon in a barrel this year.
- 2:44And we open it in 17 years when these cicadas come back out again.
- 2:48Like, you know, this whole charade. See what happens, right?
- 2:51Yeah. See what happens. Maybe put a couple of cicadas in there with it.
- 2:55Pickle them. It'll be fun. Yeah. Yeah, I'm picturing Matthew McConaughey at
- 3:00Wild Turkey pulling out the bourbon brood and going, all right,
- 3:03all right, all right, all right.
- 3:04All right, all right. We got a cicada here. Yeah, that's right.
- 3:08I haven't worked on my McConaughey in a while. Yeah, we're going to have to. Yeah, you and me both.
- 3:14So, the bourbon brood is emerging right now.
- 3:18Correct. Actually, as of this morning, when we were recording,
- 3:22I got my first email from an extension agent over in Breathitt County, Reed Graham.
- 3:26Shout out to Reed. And he sent me the first images that I have received this
- 3:30year of adult cicadas emerging from their Nymphal shells.
- 3:33And so I don't have a trophy or a certificate made up for him quite yet,
- 3:37but I probably will send him something.
- 3:39It's quite exciting for me. I like it when this kicks off because it has a bit
- 3:43of an air of mystery to it.
- 3:44They usually start to emerge at night. It is usually at the end of April or
- 3:49the start of May, seemingly here in Kentucky nowadays.
- 3:52And so over the next couple of weeks, they're really going to start coming out
- 3:55in force and people will strongly begin to notice it.
- 3:58So where are we going to see them? Well, I know that you said the agriculture
- 4:02agent in Breathitt County recognized them first, but are we going to see them
- 4:07going south to north or are they going to come west to east?
- 4:10Where are we going to see them? It's a great question. So one of the things
- 4:14that I guess I like to talk about with this is that with periodical cicadas,
- 4:18we always talk about the broods. So this is brood 14.
- 4:21The broods are these separate groups of cicadas that emerge in distinct years from each other.
- 4:27So there are lots of 13-year cicadas and 17-year cicadas below the ground at any given point.
- 4:34But they're kind of separated into these groups that will emerge in separate years.
- 4:38So their eggs aren't literally all in one basket. It helps to sort of protect them chronologically.
- 4:43And so brood 14, it covers a lot of Kentucky.
- 4:46The counties that experienced brood X back in 2021 could still see some emergences this year.
- 4:54And kind of the Louisville up into the Cincinnati metropolitan area,
- 4:58there should be some emergences there.
- 5:00But I would actually say this is going to be strongest in kind of central and
- 5:03eastern Kentucky, the counties that kind of make up the bluegrass region and
- 5:07then the Appalachian region.
- 5:09That's where we expect to see most of the cicadas.
- 5:12The western portion, like the Purchase region and some of those areas,
- 5:16they probably aren't going to see much action this year.
- 5:19They were a part of some of those counties of the emergence that happened last
- 5:22year that dominated a lot of the news cycle because there was a double brood
- 5:27emergence, which is quite rare.
- 5:29But this year, I think most of our counties kind of in horse country and coal
- 5:33country are going to see a lot of cicadas.
- 5:35So do the different broods have characteristics that distinguish them or do they all look the same?
- 5:41They all look the same. That's a good question. They all look the same.
- 5:44So we have 17 and 13-year species.
- 5:47The 17-year species are kind of the older, according to the records and the
- 5:51fossil record that we have.
- 5:53And then the 13-year species are a little bit newer. but
- 5:56sort of visually they all look vaguely the same they're black
- 5:59they have clear wings with kind of orange trim
- 6:02on them and then bright red eyes they do
- 6:05look distinct from the annual cicadas that people are probably more familiar
- 6:09with that emerge in the latter half of the summer those are usually kind of
- 6:13green and brown and black mixed together like camouflage and are much bigger
- 6:17these periodical cicadas are slightly smaller and they have that more distinct
- 6:21kind of flashy coloration to them.
- 6:24And I associate cicadas with a sound. The periodical ones, do they have the
- 6:29same sound as the ones we hear later in the summer?
- 6:32Absolutely. So cicadas are part of the smaller group of insects that rely on
- 6:38auditory cues to communicate with each other.
- 6:40Most insects, when they talk to one another, it's through chemical signals.
- 6:44They make those pheromones that do certain things.
- 6:47Yeah. But when we think of singing insects, we think of crickets and grasshoppers, and then cicadas.
- 6:51And yes, the periodicals are very well known for their ability to sing.
- 6:55It is the male that makes the sound that we associate with cicadas.
- 6:59They have a mostly hollow abdomen, actually.
- 7:02And then if we look on the sides of their body, they have these muscles that
- 7:07they can flex called timble muscles.
- 7:09And as they vibrate them very, very quickly, they create this reverberation
- 7:13of sort of a tinny grinding noise inside their body. and then they can release it in this huge burst.
- 7:20They sing a few different songs. The males will sing first a song that recruits
- 7:24other males to a tree that they're singing in.
- 7:27Then once they're all hanging out together, the males will sing like in a giant rock band, kind of.
- 7:31They really want to attract females to that tree, and they're using each other to do that.
- 7:36Once the females begin to arrive, the females can't sing, but they can click
- 7:40their wings when they are approaching a male and say, I think of you as a potential
- 7:45mate. and then the male will sing a courtship song.
- 7:49And that, you know, it's like a guitar guy at a party kind of.
- 7:52And if she accepts him as a mate, she'll click her wings again and then they'll
- 7:56initiate the mating process.
- 7:57This is actually pretty lethal. A lot of the males at this point at the mating
- 8:01process, they'll begin to die. It takes a lot of energy to sing and a lot of energy to mate.
- 8:05And so they just start dropping like flies, basically. There are things that
- 8:09are eating them all at the same time.
- 8:11It's kind of a huge macabre Mardi Gras. That's the way I like to describe it.
- 8:14There's lots of mating, there's lots of singing, and then there's lots of dying.
- 8:20So the singing that they do, does that attract some predators?
- 8:25Do they hear that too? Yes. So that's one of the reasons that most insects don't
- 8:29create a lot of noise is because they're trying to hide.
- 8:31They don't be very obvious in the environment.
- 8:34But with the cicadas, yeah, lots of things do notice them.
- 8:37They do blend in fairly well in the tree, so they don't get picked off super easy.
- 8:42But a lot of them do get eaten. And a lot of them die. One of the reasons they
- 8:46come out in these numbers of millions and thousands is that we call it predator satiation.
- 8:52A lot of the ones that are going to come out now and in the next couple of weeks,
- 8:55they are going to get eaten.
- 8:57But then the turkeys and snakes and foxes and dogs and cats and everything else
- 9:02that's consumed them, eventually they get sick of it. I think about food.
- 9:06I think about sometimes you eat the same thing four days in a row and eventually
- 9:10if I never see a burrito again, it'll be too soon. It's kind of the same thing with the cicadas.
- 9:15So the ones that come out later in the summer, they tend to survive at a higher rate.
- 9:19As you said, they're on the trees, and are they affecting the nature that they are living in?
- 9:26They do have some positive effects, and then they do have some negative effects.
- 9:30So positively, it's kind of like a mass year of acorns.
- 9:34The next year you see a higher population of squirrels in certain things.
- 9:38With the cicadas, we can see surges in wild turkeys, for example,
- 9:41the next year, because this is just a real heavy surge of protein going into
- 9:46the environment that wasn't available in other years.
- 9:50So there are some benefits. For plant life, there can be some detriments,
- 9:54particularly for smaller plants, so smaller trees.
- 9:57Most plants are not of interest to cicadas. They don't feed very much as adults.
- 10:02They feed as nymphs below ground. They feed in the tree root zone, sucking sap out.
- 10:07But then once they're above ground, it's all about singing, it's all about mating,
- 10:10and then it's all about creating that next generation.
- 10:13So they're not going to damage your garden. They're not going to damage your
- 10:16favorite hostas or any of your plants in your landscape.
- 10:19If you have a newly planted oak tree or fruit tree in your yard that you put
- 10:24in maybe last fall, that is something that could potentially be harmed.
- 10:28When the female lays her eggs, she cuts these little slits in the branch.
- 10:33She'll use the sort of tenderest, newest growth at the top of the tree to push
- 10:37her eggs into these slits.
- 10:39And if they do this to small trees, there's lots of breakages.
- 10:42And then there can be a loss of leaf tissue that would be used for photosynthesis.
- 10:46So you can actually right now go online and buy cicada netting,
- 10:50which is a smaller gauge than bird netting and you can protect some of those smaller trees.
- 10:55If you have big majestic oaks and maples and elms and maybe even ash,
- 11:00if you're still holding onto one of those, these are some common trees that they lay their eggs in.
- 11:05The big ones, the ones that have been around for more than five,
- 11:08six, seven years, they're probably
- 11:10going to be fine. they can handle the egg laying damage that occurs.
- 11:13This has been such a fascinating conversation. So.
- 11:17Before we wrap up, what else can we do with these cicadas?
- 11:22Can we actually eat them? Because I'll keep hearing you can go and eat the cicadas.
- 11:27And I'm not sure that I want to, but there are some people who might want to.
- 11:33So tell me, can we eat these cicadas?
- 11:36Yeah, I really want to get it on like the, what are the calendars and the cards
- 11:40that we use Kentucky game? Oh, yeah.
- 11:43Nutrition calendars. Cook Wild Kentucky. Wild Kentucky, yes.
- 11:47You can eat cicadas just like a lot of insects they're
- 11:50consumable they taste a lot like what you've cooked them
- 11:53in if you were to just cook them and eat them plain they
- 11:56do have a nutty flavor because they've been feeding on trees for
- 11:59some time all right we do advertise some caution just
- 12:02like if you're foraging in nature all the time and eating a
- 12:05lot of things you know they have been in the ground for 17 years
- 12:08that means that they've been exposed to whatever has
- 12:12gone into that soil and so there there is some
- 12:14danger there also people who have a shellfish allergy should
- 12:17not consume any insects there is some cross allergy
- 12:20contamination there and so we don't want people who
- 12:23have a shrimp or other sort of shellfish problem you should not consume cicadas
- 12:28but I've had them i thought they were quite tasty that could have been because
- 12:32i had them prepared by there was a professional chef that did this little thing
- 12:35for a TV show that i was on once and I got to taste them in a variety of culinary settings.
- 12:41But I think they're pretty tasty.
- 12:43So if you eat them in moderation, if your dog or cat eats them, you'll be fine.
- 12:47You can't just go out and gorge yourself though for 12 straight days on cicadas.
- 12:51Because you'll be much like that predator who does not want to ever see them again, right?
- 12:56Right. Oh, and they need to be cooked just like any other sort of organism.
- 13:00We don't want you to eat them raw.
- 13:01And I guess we don't know the proper internal temperature to cook them to, do we?
- 13:05I don't know I don't know that one that sounds like some potential research
- 13:09collaboration yeah we're going to have to work on that one with our DHN partners won't we? yeah.
- 13:15Well I look forward to them being in the butcher block at the exactly exactly and,
- 13:22fresh food case at the market, we can find out. Of course, that's something
- 13:26that's only going to show up every 17 years or every 14 years.
- 13:30So it will be a delicacy, definitely. Yes, it would, yes.
- 13:35Jonathan, thank you so much for this fun conversation. I know that it will certainly
- 13:39be listened to by many people across the Bluegrass.
- 13:42I appreciate the invite, and I hope people go out and experience the wonder
- 13:46of nature this year and get to know those cicadas a little bit.
- 13:49They come and go very quickly.
- 13:50It'll be over before we know it. Yeah, we definitely want everyone to get to
- 13:54know them and get familiar with them so they're ready for the next bourbon brood.
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