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Monday Mini: More Pontificating on AI · Stuff Mom Never Told You

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  Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and Samantha and welcome to stuff
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  Speaker 1: I never told you production of iHeartRadio. And today we
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  Speaker 1: have our promised follow up on AI, which is kind
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  Speaker 1: of just our personal experiences that we've had lately because
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  Speaker 1: it has really blown up since we talked about it,
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  Speaker 1: which speaking of, you can see our past AI episodes
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  Speaker 1: that we did, including our recent Monday mini where we
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  Speaker 1: compare Chat GBT two different prompts on Chat GBT. Today
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  Speaker 1: is April twenty first, twenty twenty three. I just just
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  Speaker 1: put that in there. I also want to say there's
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  Speaker 1: a lot going on in the world news wise. I
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  Speaker 1: know there always is, but today is like a huge
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  Speaker 1: day comesue abortion. Perhaps we'll see There's a lot going
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  Speaker 1: on with the like LGBTQ stuff specifically, So we are
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  Speaker 1: planning on talking about that, but right now we're kind
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  Speaker 1: of waiting for something to happen and then we can
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  Speaker 1: discuss it.
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  Speaker 2: Waiting for so many things to happen.
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  Speaker 3: We are, and I hate it.
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  Speaker 1: I've been so stressed all day. Yeah, but I just
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  Speaker 1: wanted to talk about some things that I've experienced with
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  Speaker 1: AI lately. I know, I know in the news it
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  Speaker 1: was recently there's a lot of discussion around music and
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  Speaker 1: what's gonna happen and copyright around music, which was already
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  Speaker 1: a mess. But I know there was that AI song
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  Speaker 1: with The Weekend and Drake. It's Drake featuring the Weekend,
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  Speaker 1: I think yeah, And.
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  Speaker 2: I talked about it on our episode with Daily's like guys,
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  Speaker 2: because Miles, who's the host of that, brought it up,
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  Speaker 2: and then I have all these questions that he could
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  Speaker 2: not answer because I'm like, wait, what and he's like, stop,
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  Speaker 2: don't do this. He didn't say that to me, but
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  Speaker 2: you could tell, like I'm asking way too many questions
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  Speaker 2: about those because I'm like, wait, is this kind of
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  Speaker 2: going to be like how actors are being used without
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  Speaker 2: their permission because they didn't know that they had to
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  Speaker 2: put this down off their contracts. Like we had this
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  Speaker 2: auble discussion because like you know, when your technology exceeds it,
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  Speaker 2: what happens. Music is a little better about infringement and
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  Speaker 2: copywriting specific voices, tones and stuff, But I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I also saw that BuzzFeed News laid off a ton
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  Speaker 2: of people and one of the reasons is that we're
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  Speaker 2: going to use AI apparently.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I saw I saw that too.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I was thinking about that in terms of first
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  Speaker 1: of all, that song is really good if you haven't
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  Speaker 1: heard it, I was.
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  Speaker 3: Kind of mad.
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  Speaker 2: It was interesting.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's interesting, but it got pulled because people were
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  Speaker 1: freaking out about it. And I there has been a
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  Speaker 1: lot of concern, and you know, rightfully so in a
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  Speaker 1: lot of ways. But I was thinking about it because
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  Speaker 1: when we did that comparison of the podcast intros about
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  Speaker 1: feminism that chat GPT wrote and we were saying, this
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  Speaker 1: sounds kind of like a high schooler writing an.
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  Speaker 3: Essay or something.
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  Speaker 1: I one thing we didn't talk about, but this whole
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  Speaker 1: thing made me think about is you and I have
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  Speaker 1: a huge library of ourselves talking for the Internet to
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  Speaker 1: pull from, from the AI to learn from. And I
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  Speaker 1: got kind of I had a little moment of panic
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  Speaker 1: about well, now someone could use my voice.
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  Speaker 2: Oh wow, they really could. Yeah, especially for the well,
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  Speaker 2: like the whole deep fake has been recently a thing,
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  Speaker 2: so taking our images and then using that with our voices.
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  Speaker 3: Ooh yeah, see now I'm passing on my concern to you.
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  Speaker 1: Ah indeed, And I mean it's like you said there,
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  Speaker 1: this has been a problem with deep fakes with actors
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  Speaker 1: where you know, people didn't know they had to put
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  Speaker 1: that in their contract. And then Disney, for example, owns
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  Speaker 1: your whole image and all of your voice clips and
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  Speaker 1: now it's you, but it's not you. It's not something
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  Speaker 1: you agreed to, but they kind of own your face
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  Speaker 1: and your voice. So I mean, it's not like it's
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  Speaker 1: a new concern, but it's just a new it's like
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  Speaker 1: a update on the concern as technology gets better.
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  Speaker 2: Well now people losing jobs. Yeah, and we knew it
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  Speaker 2: was coming, but this is quick. This seems very quick.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, And I've heard so many different takes on that
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  Speaker 1: because somebody somebody was saying, you know, there's no way
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  Speaker 1: AI could replace, like they're still going to need humans
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  Speaker 1: for it. Sounds so high check and like sci fi
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  Speaker 1: right now, but to do more like expert things. But
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  Speaker 1: then somebody else was like, I've never I've never gotten
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  Speaker 1: this good quality of work out of a freelancer.
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  Speaker 3: I'm kidding from AI, Like, oh no, what I know, right,
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  Speaker 3: that's all in the wound.
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  Speaker 1: But one of the reasons I wanted to talk about this,
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  Speaker 1: I mentioned it in our last one day many was
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  Speaker 1: I have I don't know if you've heard me say
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  Speaker 1: it but I have started publishing some fan fiction lately.
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  Speaker 2: What's the name of it.
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  Speaker 3: No, it would be so easy to find it, really would.
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  Speaker 1: I actually made a pretty obvious accidental mistake it revealing
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  Speaker 1: who I was in one of them.
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  Speaker 3: That's amazing. It was really, really funny. It was like
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  Speaker 3: I was doing a podcast outro. It was not good.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but I started noticing. I told I told
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  Speaker 1: all of you that I've been having this kind of
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  Speaker 1: like notification anxiety. And I got some of these reviews,
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  Speaker 1: which largely have been very good, but you get an
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  Speaker 1: email every time you get a review, and I got
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  Speaker 1: a bunch of them that said, like, this particular service,
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  Speaker 1: which you have to pay for, has detected that there
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  Speaker 1: is AI. This is written by a lying author. They're false,
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  Speaker 1: they're not real, and they're tricking you. Here's how you
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  Speaker 1: could find out that they're liars.
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  Speaker 2: I know.
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  Speaker 1: And then, because I've never seen this encountered this before,
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  Speaker 1: I was gonna type back a like oh.
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  Speaker 3: You in this love star wars love story or that
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  Speaker 3: are wrote how dare you?
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  Speaker 2: How dare you?
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  Speaker 1: But then I was like I couldn't click on their name,
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  Speaker 1: so I couldn't see what else they had like reviewed
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  Speaker 1: or written or anything like that, and then I noticed
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  Speaker 1: that most of them were worded pretty much the same.
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  Speaker 1: So I was like, oh, either this is just some
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  Speaker 1: automated chatbot or my conspiracy theory brain was like, what
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  Speaker 1: if this is like AI. It's finding things and then
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  Speaker 1: telling you you need to buy these other services, Like
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  Speaker 1: what if they're working together, the AI detection service and
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  Speaker 1: the AI But then I was like, is it true
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  Speaker 1: that it's ninety one percent matched? I don't think so.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's a lie. No one could match my
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  Speaker 1: beautiful writing store style, this very original Star Wars idea.
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  Speaker 1: So that was happening, and then I've started to get
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  Speaker 1: another thing that I think has to do with AI learning.
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  Speaker 3: But I'll get these reviews that are not human beings.
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  Speaker 3: I can say that for.
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  Speaker 1: Sure, but it will say like it's like a Wikipedia entry,
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  Speaker 1: and then it'll be like this character first was born
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  Speaker 1: in the Clone Wars era this time and all of
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  Speaker 1: this stuff, and I'm like, are you trying to learn
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  Speaker 1: from my fan fixing?
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  Speaker 2: You're stealing in content.
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  Speaker 1: Don't do it. It's very precious to be AI. So
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  Speaker 1: it's just I'm glad I didn't panic. And now i
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  Speaker 1: just mark those reviews as spam. I'm glad I didn't
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  Speaker 1: engage in some kind of argument around it, but that
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  Speaker 1: is something that I've noticed. And then I texted you.
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  Speaker 1: But some people have been using AI to write fan
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  Speaker 1: fiction or to edit it, which I still can't quite
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  Speaker 1: figure out.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, I've been told to use that for edis
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  Speaker 2: and I'm like, I don't know what that means. I
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  Speaker 2: don't want to do that.
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  Speaker 3: I can't figure that out.
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  Speaker 1: If someone knows, please write in I because they'll one
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  Speaker 1: of the As you know, they're like tags on fan fiction,
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  Speaker 1: and one of them is now like beta read by AI,
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  Speaker 1: which basically means edited by AI.
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  Speaker 3: Think, so some.
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  Speaker 1: People are doing it and they are marking it, but
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  Speaker 1: it's just interesting to see it.
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  Speaker 3: Kind of play out.
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  Speaker 1: And then you and I were talking about I hadn't
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  Speaker 1: really heard about this, but people getting AI calls from
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  Speaker 1: people posing as someone they know and kind of saying
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  Speaker 1: like your loved one is in this dangerous situation, right.
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  Speaker 2: Right, So essentially what happened was they took the number
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  Speaker 2: because we know we can do that for Google copy.
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  Speaker 2: You replicate a number and then say I've got your
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  Speaker 2: person here. You need to send this much more money. Essentially,
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  Speaker 2: it's like a fishing with aim and demanding ransom and
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  Speaker 2: scaring the hell out of people.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that is creepy.
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  Speaker 2: Right. Well, now that you say that, and the fact
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  Speaker 2: that we have our voices, what if they like they
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  Speaker 2: use our voices to say, hey, I need money? And
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  Speaker 2: now that I said the word money.
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  Speaker 3: I think you've probably said it before here.
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  Speaker 2: That's not good. To be fair, not many people are
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  Speaker 2: just gonna outrighte give me money because that's not something
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  Speaker 2: I ask. So if I call you to ask for money,
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  Speaker 2: question that because I don't typically do that.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, I got some calls. I need to go back
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  Speaker 3: over then where my been going to.
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  Speaker 1: And then I was kind of thinking about this because
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  Speaker 1: I was clearing out my voicemail and there was this
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  Speaker 1: promotion that you, Samantha did to me first with the
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  Speaker 1: newest screen movie Yes, where Gho's face would call you
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  Speaker 1: and generally scare you, but it would say your name,
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  Speaker 1: and I got I got to thinking about like, oh, dear,
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  Speaker 1: someone could really get me pretty good future.
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  Speaker 3: I did it.
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  Speaker 2: I saw it on TikTok asper Usu and I was like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: I must do this immediately because you had just seen it,
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  Speaker 2: you believe, yeah, And I was like, oh, I must
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  Speaker 2: have been one of the first people, because you had
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  Speaker 2: said later when you tried it, it was too busy
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  Speaker 2: and itwhelmed. So I.
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  Speaker 3: Was how much fun? Okay? I was impressed though, because
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  Speaker 3: it said my name correctly.
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  Speaker 1: Normally the EUI throws off technologies like that, but nope,
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  Speaker 1: and it left a voicemail because after you did it,
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  Speaker 1: and yes, you were the first and your returns that
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  Speaker 1: are a bunch of people did it to me and so.
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  Speaker 3: I just one of them left of it would leave
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  Speaker 3: a voicemail. I kept it because I liked it. Oh yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: But it shut down after that that weekend because it
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  Speaker 1: got it got so overwhelmed.
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  Speaker 3: I tried to do it to someone else and it
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  Speaker 3: was like, nope, stop, it may be alone.
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  Speaker 2: I'm murdering people.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yep.
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  Speaker 1: And that was one of the cool things, was I mean,
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  Speaker 1: it's creepy, but as you said, the dumber said it
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  Speaker 1: was from New York, which is where the movie takes place.
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  Speaker 2: Yee.
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  Speaker 1: Well, one other thing I want to mention, and this
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  Speaker 1: has just been a random, a whole random thoughts thoughts
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  Speaker 1: I have right now, but also one thing I've learned
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  Speaker 1: I'm trying to learn through fan fiction is I don't
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  Speaker 1: know a lot of lingo. I'm having to look up
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  Speaker 1: a lot of new words because I'm guessing young people
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  Speaker 1: I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: Like like new phrases or new things specific to fan fiction.
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  Speaker 1: New phrases. I'm just learning a lot. I'm learning a lot.
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  Speaker 1: So far they've all been positive. But you know, you
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  Speaker 1: have that moment flight if I look this up, it's terrible. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so far, yes, yes, yes, yes, Well, thank you so
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  Speaker 1: much for going on this journey. If you have any
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  Speaker 1: thoughts about this or any experiences around this really burgeoning
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  Speaker 1: world of AI or fan fiction or ghost face phone calls,
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