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O'Brien & Doug S4:E18 [Oct 7, 2021 Recognizable Rock Motifs] · O'Brien & Doug

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SPEAKER_05: How you doing?
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SPEAKER_05: Hi man, you.
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SPEAKER_05: I'm alright.
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SPEAKER_05: I gotta get it right.
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SPEAKER_05: Season four, episode 18.
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SPEAKER_05: 18, yes.
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SPEAKER_05: We're legal.
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SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_05: Yes.
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SPEAKER_05: We can vote.
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SPEAKER_05: Oh.
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SPEAKER_05: Buy cigarettes.
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SPEAKER_05: Okay, speaking of legal, and uh I don't know.
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SPEAKER_05: We weren't, but uh Olivia got a job.
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SPEAKER_05: Oh, she did?
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SPEAKER_05: What'd she get?
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SPEAKER_05: Yeah, she's going to be a okay.
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SPEAKER_05: Well, let's see if I can um I don't really know.
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SPEAKER_05: Oh, okay.
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SPEAKER_05: That's a good job.
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SPEAKER_05: So so my daughter went to uh school for basically video editing and um everything that goes with it.
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SPEAKER_05: I mean she you know she had to take lighting and she knows what she's doing.
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SPEAKER_05: Um and she's had she graduated in May and she's had um um jobs um up until now.
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SPEAKER_05: I mean she's been able to survive um what do you call that?
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SPEAKER_05: Uh freelance.
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SPEAKER_05: She's been doing freelance work right up until now.
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SPEAKER_05: And she uh has been applying you know all over the country to different places.
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SPEAKER_05: And she she she wants to to find something or wanted to find something that was um uh stuck with her faith.
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SPEAKER_05: You know, so so she wanted it to be her original plan when she went to college, uh I I want to be, I want to direct uh documentaries about um I want to go I want to travel the world, I want to go to other countries, and and and um it's kind of like a travel, you know, um documentary person, documentarian.
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SPEAKER_05: Um but she also wanted to do a lot of stuff with the church and and stuff like that.
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SPEAKER_05: So she wanted to uh kind of involve the church somehow.
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SPEAKER_05: Uh so anyway, she's been applying all over the place, and this one notable um person um around the church who's kind of uh high up, if you will, uh very well known, very well respected.
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SPEAKER_05: The Pope.
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SPEAKER_05: No, it's not the Pope.
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SPEAKER_05: Um and it's not even it's not even on that on that scale.
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SPEAKER_05: It's it's uh it's a theologian, basically, is is who is who he is.
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SPEAKER_05: Um anyway, his his company was looking for someone.
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SPEAKER_05: She applied and she went through the interview process and she got the job.
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SPEAKER_05: So she's going to be and and she discovered when she went to college that the thing that she enjoys the most, she enjoys video editing.
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SPEAKER_05: She really does, and she's really good at it.
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SPEAKER_05: Um but the thing that she enjoys the most is kind of producing.
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SPEAKER_05: Uh meaning um making sure all the I's are dotted and the T's are crossed, um making sure everybody's in their place and they know what they're supposed to be doing.
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SPEAKER_05: And um if if a show has a guest, you know that the the guest you know what they're doing, blah blah blah blah.
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SPEAKER_05: Um she enjoys that and she actually has like if you've ever been to her trailer, she she's been working on a project and um she has uh storyboards up on the wall.
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SPEAKER_05: You know, she she's very detail-oriented.
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SPEAKER_05: Anyway, uh so this guy's company, um he does uh videos, uh uh podcasts, um uh television, and she's going to be kind of like uh a a handler of to making sure all the content is you know um organized.
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SPEAKER_05: You know, she's so she's gonna be right in her element.
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SPEAKER_05: Uh it's bittersweet because she's gotta move to Ohio.
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SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_05: Well, you gotta go where the work is.
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SPEAKER_05: Yeah, you gotta go, yeah.
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SPEAKER_05: So so she's working on that, and hopefully she'll be out uh in Ohio in the next month.
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SPEAKER_05: But I'm pretty pumped because you know you said 18 were legal.
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SPEAKER_05: My my babies are flying the coop.
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SPEAKER_05: No, they are.
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SPEAKER_05: She she's been out of college now for a little while, but she's she's just down down the road.
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SPEAKER_05: She's just three mile three hours down the road.
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SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_05: And now she's gonna be about ten, eleven hours down the road.
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SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_05: Um, which is okay.
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SPEAKER_05: Um, she's about six hours from my son where he's going to college.
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SPEAKER_05: Yep.
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SPEAKER_05: And she's about six hours from my sister-in-law in North Carolina.
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SPEAKER_05: So there you go.
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SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_05: So it's all good.
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SPEAKER_05: She's right in the middle.
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SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_05: I just wanted to, I don't know, I hadn't told you that, so I wanted to share that with you.
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SPEAKER_05: That was some some pretty pretty good news over the weekend.
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SPEAKER_05: Good for her.
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SPEAKER_01: Good job, Liv.
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SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_05: We're proud of her.
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SPEAKER_05: Uh, and then my boy called me from uh college and uh um really had no news whatsoever.
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SPEAKER_00: Oh, that's that's uh that's college for you.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: I'm not doing anything.
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SPEAKER_05: Getting good grades, I guess.
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SPEAKER_05: You better be.
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SPEAKER_05: Um I love my classes.
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SPEAKER_05: What was that song?
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SPEAKER_05: Name it, name it.
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SPEAKER_05: What uh I love getting good grades.
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SPEAKER_05: I love my classes.
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SPEAKER_05: I gotta wish was it Tim Buck Three?
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, Tim Buck Three.
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SPEAKER_05: Tim Buck Three, yeah.
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SPEAKER_05: One hit wonder.
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SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_05: Um so musically, what uh what's been going on?
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SPEAKER_05: We got a gig.
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SPEAKER_05: Remember?
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SPEAKER_00: Oh yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: The uh I don't know what it's for.
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SPEAKER_00: The mystery gig.
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SPEAKER_00: The mystery gig, yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so yeah, we want you to play.
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unknown: Okay.
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SPEAKER_00: Okay, okay.
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SPEAKER_00: Well uh what's it for?
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SPEAKER_00: We don't know.
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SPEAKER_01: We'll let you know when.
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SPEAKER_00: We'll know it's a mystery gig.
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SPEAKER_00: We're gonna, you know, you gotta be ready within 30 minutes when we call you.
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SPEAKER_05: Right.
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SPEAKER_05: Anyway, that's in January.
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SPEAKER_00: It's a James Bond gig.
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SPEAKER_00: That's in January, so that's I thought it was in a couple weeks.
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SPEAKER_00: No, no, it's in January.
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SPEAKER_00: Oh.
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SPEAKER_00: I'm very confused.
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SPEAKER_05: Yep.
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SPEAKER_05: Uh I thought it was.
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SPEAKER_00: Actually, no, wait, wait, wait.
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SPEAKER_00: I thought it was a couple Saturdays from now.
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SPEAKER_05: Um or next Saturday.
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SPEAKER_05: No, it's not next Saturday.
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SPEAKER_05: Oh, yes, it is.
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SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_05: Yes, yes, it is.
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SPEAKER_05: What are you thinking about?
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SPEAKER_05: It's the 16th.
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SPEAKER_05: Yes, you're right.
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SPEAKER_05: Dude.
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SPEAKER_05: I'm thinking about the the the other gig that we got.
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SPEAKER_05: What other gig?
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SPEAKER_05: Comic Crossing is playing uh at the the big rec center.
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SPEAKER_00: Oh, I thought that was in November.
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SPEAKER_05: In January.
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SPEAKER_05: No, that's something different.
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SPEAKER_00: Okay, I'm very confused.
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SPEAKER_00: I don't know what's going on.
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SPEAKER_00: You're the drummer.
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SPEAKER_00: I don't need to know what's going on.
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SPEAKER_05: I'll talk to you.
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SPEAKER_05: I'll talk to you after you.
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SPEAKER_00: Just show up!
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SPEAKER_05: Yeah, bring some drums.
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SPEAKER_05: Yeah, you'll be good.
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SPEAKER_05: Speaking of drums, uh Finn had his first, and I uh we should have him down to talk about it actually.
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SPEAKER_05: Um he's in middle school now.
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SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_05: It's in sixth grade, and Eli, my other son, is in eighth grade.
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SPEAKER_05: And they hate each other.
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SPEAKER_05: Not really, but Eli.
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SPEAKER_05: You know, it's a big brother, little brother thing.
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SPEAKER_05: Oh yeah, you know.
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SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_05: Um Eli plays trombone and Finn plays trumpet.
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SPEAKER_05: But uh he was told last year that when he gets to middle school he can play the drums because he's a drummer.
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SPEAKER_05: Right.
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SPEAKER_05: Or uh uh, you know, he wants to be a drummer, and he's he's getting pretty good.
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SPEAKER_05: And so they were having the first uh middle school jazz band rehearsal tonight.
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SPEAKER_05: And Eli was like, you know, uh Finn's not going because it's for the older kids and blah blah blah.
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SPEAKER_05: And Finn thought, yeah, I'm supposed to go next week, but you know.
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SPEAKER_05: Anyway, I got a text from the music teacher and he said, uh Eli's coming tonight.
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SPEAKER_05: Um bring Finn too if he wants to come because I need a drummer.
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SPEAKER_05: So Finn went tonight.
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SPEAKER_05: And I just got a text from the music teacher and it said Finn did great.
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SPEAKER_05: He was solid.
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SPEAKER_00: I'm good.
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SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_05: So I'm interested to hear how that actually went because he was really nervous because he's not a trained drummer.
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SPEAKER_05: Um neither am I.
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SPEAKER_05: But when he hears jazz band, he's thinking they're gonna play like you know, jazz.
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SPEAKER_05: And I said, dude, it's middle school jazz band, they're probably gonna play rock and roll.
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SPEAKER_05: Yeah, probably.
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SPEAKER_05: And and they did, I think, you know, and I think it was the first night, so they probably but uh yeah, I'm I'm interested to see how how that went.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you're not doing a love supreme, you know, right in uh you know middle school jazz band.
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SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
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SPEAKER_00: The first night now, it's not gonna I don't even know high school or college bands that do that.
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SPEAKER_05: Right, exactly.
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SPEAKER_05: So um what else?
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SPEAKER_05: Okay, so uh other stuff, other music stuff this weekend.
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SPEAKER_00: Uh Metallica's Blacklist came out.
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SPEAKER_00: That's right.
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SPEAKER_05: And that's how the only thing I heard from this or about this was when Jason Isbel came out with his version of Sad But True, which was which was different and and really interesting and not bad.
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SPEAKER_05: I mean it was kind of cool.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, uh if you don't know what it is, it's the black album.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: But it's done by like 30 different artists, and there's like 52 songs.
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SPEAKER_00: So you got like multiple artists doing the same songs in different styles.
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SPEAKER_00: So it's uh it's kind of a crazy thing.
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SPEAKER_00: Have you heard it?
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SPEAKER_00: I just saw it listed.
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SPEAKER_00: I didn't know anything about it because I'm kind of boycotting social media.
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SPEAKER_00: I don't blame you one bit.
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SPEAKER_00: So I just literally came about it I think yesterday.
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SPEAKER_05: So let me ask you this because I don't know that I've ever asked you this before, because I know what a big Metallica fan you are.
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SPEAKER_05: Right.
10:24
SPEAKER_05: And you but you've been a Metallica fan from like the beginning.
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SPEAKER_00: Not the beginning.
10:28
SPEAKER_05: Well, from way back when.
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SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_05: Before the black album.
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SPEAKER_05: Oh, yeah, way before the black album.
10:32
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_05: So the black album was pretty polarizing for Metallica fans.
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SPEAKER_05: Which side of the camp did you fall on?
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SPEAKER_05: Because a lot of people said they sold out.
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SPEAKER_05: I like what Jason Newstead said about that.
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SPEAKER_00: Jason Newstead had the perfect line for that.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we're selling out.
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SPEAKER_00: Selling out stadiums, we're selling out every show.
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SPEAKER_05: Every show.
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SPEAKER_05: Everywhere we play.
10:55
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
10:56
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
10:56
SPEAKER_05: Uh but I mean, because it went the black album was a a distinct change in the s well, it wasn't, it wasn't.
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SPEAKER_00: Well, it it kind of wasn't.
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SPEAKER_05: So I want to because there's hardcore fans that like everything before Black, the Black album.
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SPEAKER_05: Right.
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SPEAKER_05: And then when the Black album come came out and they went and then they cut their hair on load and reload and all that stuff.
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SPEAKER_05: It was about their hair and blah, blah, blah.
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SPEAKER_05: Where do you fall on that?
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SPEAKER_05: Do you think the black album is as uh measures up to their early stuff?
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SPEAKER_00: Or well it's it's more of a maturing of their sound.
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SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: You know.
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SPEAKER_00: Um I think they would have got there eventually anyway, if Cliff Burton hadn't died.
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SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: Because Cliff Burton was really the musical direction of that band.
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SPEAKER_00: I mean, all those all those bass solos are very classically based.
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SPEAKER_06: Right.
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SPEAKER_00: You know, so I think they would have got there.
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SPEAKER_00: I think they it just took them longer because, you know, you know, he died during the Master Puppets uh tour, and then uh, you know, they went through the the black, you know, the Injustice for All album, where they completely turned down the bass.
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SPEAKER_00: Right.
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SPEAKER_00: And then, you know, the black album was kind of like, oh, this the you know, and then they got a new producer, you know, Bob Rock.
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SPEAKER_06: Right.
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SPEAKER_00: So, you know, so yeah, it was I think it was kind of inevitable that they would become more mainstream.
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SPEAKER_05: So the stuff before the black album, uh it's more thrash.
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SPEAKER_00: It's more thrash.
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SPEAKER_00: And then with the black album, they became more not mainline, but you know, not mainstream, but more I don't know.
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SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: It's hard to explain.
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SPEAKER_00: It's it's it's I guess more palatable to the you know, a wider range of people.
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SPEAKER_00: Right.
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SPEAKER_00: You know, because you know, they had uh before if you wanted a slow song from Metallica, you had to listen to Fade to Black.
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SPEAKER_06: Right.
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SPEAKER_00: You know, now you have the unforgiven, and you there was no place you could go in 1991 where you didn't hear, you know, Enter Sandman or the Unforgiven or anything like that.
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SPEAKER_00: You know, they were just like, ooh, James Hetfield can sing.
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SPEAKER_00: Well, yeah, of course he can sing, but you know.
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SPEAKER_05: This um um tribute album you you mentioned, what's it called again?
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SPEAKER_00: Uh Blacklist.
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SPEAKER_05: Blacklist.
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SPEAKER_05: Is Elton John on it?
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SPEAKER_05: I I didn't see the whole reason I say that is because I saw an interview uh on Howard Stern.
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SPEAKER_05: Uh James Metallica was was in there, and they but they had Elton John on.
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SPEAKER_05: And Elton John pretty much brought James Hetfield to tears almost.
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SPEAKER_05: Really?
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SPEAKER_05: Because he said that um Nothing Else Matters was one of the greatest songs ever written, basically.
13:51
SPEAKER_05: It is a great song.
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SPEAKER_05: He's like he was he was he was praising that song and its and its chord changes and its and its lyrics and blah blah blah blah.
13:58
SPEAKER_05: And and just kind of you know, in in James Hetfield's head, it was it was blowing his mind because Sir Elton John was saying that my song is one of the like a standard.
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SPEAKER_00: Right.
14:09
SPEAKER_00: I mean you gotta think about Metallica, you know, from Kill Em All to the Black Album.
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SPEAKER_00: I mean it was it's thrash, and it's basically, you know, how fast can how fast can he play with the you know how yeah jackhammer of a right hand that he has.
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SPEAKER_06: Right.
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SPEAKER_00: But I think he got to really open up and you know and you know show off what he can do on the black album.
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SPEAKER_05: And then after that, they kind of went, you know, on this you know musical journey that Well that's what I was gonna say, because have they come full circle?
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SPEAKER_00: Because I think when they did uh Deathman uh Death Magnetic, they came back to you know, like Master of Puppets and Justice for all that, you know, the kick, you know.
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SPEAKER_05: Right, that's what I was gonna say because you had uh distinct sound before the black album.
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SPEAKER_05: Black album comes out, you've got load and and reload, and what was the other one?
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SPEAKER_05: Well they did S and M in that period and which is very commercial for a lack of a better word.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I mean it's it's very it's mainstream, right?
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SPEAKER_00: Mainstream commercial.
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SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
15:10
SPEAKER_05: And then uh was Death Magic besides well St.
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SPEAKER_05: Anger came out, but but isn't there wasn't there another one?
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SPEAKER_05: Um Load Reload.
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SPEAKER_00: Death Magnetic was the latest one.
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SPEAKER_00: It's that um Hardwired to Self-Destruct.
15:30
SPEAKER_00: There it is.
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SPEAKER_05: That's what it was.
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SPEAKER_00: But that was also very heavy, Hardwired to Self-Destruct was very Yeah, it was kind of a um it was kind of a cross between uh Black Album and Master of Puppets.
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SPEAKER_00: You know, it was kind of in the same vein as uh uh Death Magnetic.
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SPEAKER_00: Um but yeah.
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SPEAKER_05: Yeah, so they came full circle, they kind of went back to their roots, if you will.
15:52
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, yeah.
15:54
SPEAKER_00: But I mean it's gonna be hard to make because these guys are not young men anymore.
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SPEAKER_06: Right.
15:58
SPEAKER_00: And it's hard to do that.
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SPEAKER_00: Sure.
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SPEAKER_00: That kind of you know, that's that's gotta be hard on a body.
16:03
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: Especially for a Lars.
16:05
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
16:05
SPEAKER_00: You know, I mean, how you know he's in great shape, no, no doubt about it.
16:09
SPEAKER_00: And he and he does keep himself in great shape, but you can only go you can only play that so long before you just can't play it anymore.
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SPEAKER_05: What is being a Metallica fan, what is the like when you hear a piece of music, whether it's a riff or whether it's uh uh a drum intro or something, when you hear it, you know it's Metallica, and you know it's like um it's going to be here forever.
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SPEAKER_00: Well, I the one thing that really sticks out is the opening riff to one.
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SPEAKER_00: As soon as you hear the like the first couple notes, people go nuts.
16:57
SPEAKER_00: Right.
16:57
SPEAKER_00: Because it's one, you know.
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SPEAKER_00: Yep.
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SPEAKER_00: Um the bells and for whom the bell tolls, you know, dong, dong, and then you know it's gonna and then you hear Cliff coming in, do you know that bass you know solo part.
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SPEAKER_05: Um, you know, I mean there's just um anything from the black album do that to you?
17:22
SPEAKER_00: I uh I guess I guess Enter Sandman, you know, you hear that, you know.
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SPEAKER_00: That's gotta be a signature song for that.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it is now.
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SPEAKER_00: I mean it's I mean you can't get away from that song now.
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SPEAKER_00: Uh and they can't.
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SPEAKER_00: You know, it's it's it's it catapulted them into the stratosphere.
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SPEAKER_00: Right.
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SPEAKER_00: That song.
17:41
SPEAKER_00: But as soon as you hear that riff, you know what's coming next.
17:44
SPEAKER_00: You know what I mean?
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SPEAKER_00: That kind of thing.
17:45
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_05: What other not to deviate from Metallica, but I'm going to like what other when you think of rock and roll, when you think of classic rock and roll uh mostly, there are other iconic sounds.
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SPEAKER_05: There are, you know, uh, or pieces, motifs, or you know, when you hear it, you know who it is, you know what it is, like what song it is, and you know that it's historic.
18:16
SPEAKER_05: Like what com what comes to mind when you think of that?
18:18
SPEAKER_00: Well, uh that synth sound and um Tom Sawyer, that boong.
18:24
SPEAKER_00: As soon as you hear that, yeah, you know what's coming, man.
18:26
SPEAKER_00: Everybody goes, shh.
18:29
SPEAKER_00: You know, you know, you know that's coming.
18:30
SPEAKER_00: And then like you said, uh the rift the synth sound and uh that dan and jump.
18:36
SPEAKER_00: And jump, you know.
18:37
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, because if you think about it, uh Eddie, you know, came up with that sound.
18:42
SPEAKER_05: I think he combined some things on a synthesizer.
18:45
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
18:45
SPEAKER_05: Came up with that sound.
18:47
SPEAKER_05: He used it for jump.
18:48
SPEAKER_05: He may have used something like it for a couple of the other songs that they did, but nobody else really used that synthesizer sound.
18:56
SPEAKER_00: Nah, well, I mean, probably a lot of new wave did back in the 80s.
19:00
SPEAKER_00: There was a lot of synthesizer, but that didn't, you know, it wasn't it was different.
19:05
SPEAKER_06: Right.
19:05
SPEAKER_00: You know, it was it was uh kind of subdued a little bit, a little bit.
19:09
SPEAKER_00: I I think I think with Van Halen and uh and Rush, I think they made it you know more like bah, you know, it's like boo right.
19:17
SPEAKER_00: This is it.
19:17
SPEAKER_00: Power punch you in the face with it.
19:19
SPEAKER_00: Right.
19:19
SPEAKER_00: That kind of thing.
19:20
SPEAKER_00: What else?
19:21
SPEAKER_00: What other um Well I think as far well, like the when you hear the bass line depressure from Queen and David Bowie.
19:30
SPEAKER_00: Once you hear that, I mean people go.
19:33
SPEAKER_00: Or another great bass line from Queen is uh another one bites the dust.
19:42
SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah.
19:42
SPEAKER_00: You know, you know, yeah.
19:43
SPEAKER_00: I mean that's I mean that's great.
19:44
SPEAKER_00: You know what's coming.
19:46
SPEAKER_00: It is, it really is.
19:47
SPEAKER_00: I mean, you just as soon as you hear it.
19:49
SPEAKER_00: Uh the opening riff to uh Nirvana, teens, you know, smells like teen spear.
19:57
SPEAKER_00: You know, what's once you hear that?
20:03
SPEAKER_00: It's my it's my air guitar person.
20:05
SPEAKER_00: I'm an awesome air guitarist.
20:07
SPEAKER_00: Um but yeah, you know, when you when you hear that, you know, you you know, people go, you know, it's one of those moments where people just as soon as they hear it, they go crazy, you know, like if it's live.
20:18
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
20:18
SPEAKER_00: Or if you're you know, you're you know, at a dance or something, all of a sudden you hear that, you hear that one song, you hear that one sound.
20:26
SPEAKER_06: Yep.
20:27
SPEAKER_00: You're you know what's coming.
20:28
SPEAKER_00: It's that moment.
20:29
SPEAKER_05: And I like it when artists do that.
20:31
SPEAKER_05: Um when they play around with with that.
20:34
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
20:34
SPEAKER_05: Like, for example, Tom Petty used to do that all the s all the time.
20:38
SPEAKER_05: He'd be noodling on his guitar or something, and just kind of playing a similar chord progression, you don't know what it is, blah, blah, blah, blah.
20:47
SPEAKER_05: And then all of a sudden, bling, bling, bling, bling, bling, yeah, right?
20:54
SPEAKER_05: And you know, it's free falling.
20:56
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
20:56
SPEAKER_05: And the crowd just loses.
20:57
SPEAKER_05: Oh, yeah.
20:58
SPEAKER_05: I love it, man.
20:58
SPEAKER_05: It's almost like you see it coming, then you're standing in the crowd, you go, he's gonna go there.
21:02
SPEAKER_05: He's gonna get there.
21:03
SPEAKER_05: He's gonna play it.
21:03
SPEAKER_05: What's he gonna do?
21:04
SPEAKER_05: He's gonna play.
21:07
SPEAKER_00: You know, yeah, it's great.
21:08
SPEAKER_00: I like that.
21:09
SPEAKER_00: You know, uh I like when they do that.
21:11
SPEAKER_00: And then uh what was that?
21:12
SPEAKER_00: What was I just oh that opening drum uh drum beat to uh refugee?
21:20
SPEAKER_00: And then and then, you know, you know, uh, what's his name?
21:22
SPEAKER_00: Uh Ben uh Ben Montag?
21:24
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
21:24
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
21:25
SPEAKER_00: When he comes in with that organ.
21:27
SPEAKER_05: Hammond B3.
21:28
SPEAKER_00: You just you're like, oh yeah, it's refugee.
21:31
SPEAKER_00: I love this song.
21:32
SPEAKER_00: You know, that kind of thing.
21:32
SPEAKER_00: It gets you all excited.
21:33
SPEAKER_00: I like that.
21:34
SPEAKER_05: Um Jesse's girl.
21:36
SPEAKER_05: Oh yeah.
21:36
SPEAKER_05: So if he's if he's standing on, and then you hear doom doom doom doom doom do you're like, oh, hey, I love this song.
21:44
SPEAKER_00: You know, yeah, I like I like songs like that, you know, that get you excited.
21:49
SPEAKER_06: Right.
21:49
SPEAKER_00: You know, because as soon as you hear I mean, it only takes like two or three notes and you're already excited.
21:54
SPEAKER_06: Right.
21:54
SPEAKER_00: You know what I mean?
21:55
SPEAKER_00: I mean, that's that's what music that's the power of music.
21:57
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
21:58
SPEAKER_00: And that's what I love about it.
21:59
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
22:00
SPEAKER_05: I'm trying to think of some other iconic uh montage as riffs or or motifs or whatever.
22:07
SPEAKER_05: Uh well, I mean anything from journey, like separate ways or something like that.
22:11
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so yeah.
22:15
SPEAKER_05: Which I guess is almost like the the the Van Halen jump sound.
22:18
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, yeah.
22:21
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
22:21
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
22:22
SPEAKER_05: Or uh the drum intro to uh I love rock and roll.
22:30
SPEAKER_00: See, yeah, see, I mean you just as soon as you hear it, you're like, oh yes, so we're gonna rock now.
22:35
SPEAKER_05: Is that because those songs are have been around so long and we've and we've been uh we've been um Well they they they're cross-generational.
22:45
SPEAKER_00: I mean they've they've tr they've they you know they've survived you know this long.
22:51
SPEAKER_00: I mean when did when did Queen come up with that another one by Stess?
22:57
SPEAKER_00: It was like the late 70s.
22:58
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
22:59
SPEAKER_05: Yep.
22:59
SPEAKER_00: And if you think about it And when you hear Bohemian Rhapsody, you know, you hear that that that opening, you know, you know, four-part harmony to Bohemian Rhapsody.
23:10
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
23:11
SPEAKER_00: I mean that I mean that that got big because of Waynes World.
23:16
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
23:16
SPEAKER_06: Oh yeah.
23:16
SPEAKER_00: When they put it in the first Waynes World movie, I think it was because nobody really, I don't think anybody really knew or they knew it, but they forgot about it.
23:24
SPEAKER_06: Right.
23:25
SPEAKER_00: Wainsworld resurrected it, and then it just went right.
23:28
SPEAKER_00: You know what I mean?
23:28
SPEAKER_00: And I think it was right around the time of Freddie's death, too, when that movie came out.
23:34
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, Freddie died in like 1990, 90, 99.
23:37
SPEAKER_00: One, ninety something like that.
23:40
SPEAKER_00: And the movie came out shortly after that.
23:42
SPEAKER_00: So it just took it just took Queen and just skyrocketed them again.
23:46
SPEAKER_00: Yep.
23:46
SPEAKER_00: You know, which was great.
23:48
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
23:49
SPEAKER_05: But as soon as you it's like little things like that, as soon as you hear it, you're like, is there and and I and I say this uh you know, pardon my ignorance, but we don't have a lot of uh modern rock radio around here.
24:02
SPEAKER_05: We have classic rock, we have classic rock radio station.
24:05
SPEAKER_05: We listen to you know satellite radio, of course, but I I don't.
24:09
SPEAKER_05: It's just you know.
24:10
SPEAKER_05: Um so the modern rock now, people that listen to modern rock, I'm sure there are songs that have the same effect on them, right?
24:22
SPEAKER_05: But but are those as I like I I guess I don't know how how to put this.
24:28
SPEAKER_05: Like those people that listen to modern rock also listen to classic rock.
24:34
SPEAKER_05: So they're familiar with all the songs we just talked about.
24:37
SPEAKER_00: Oh yeah.
24:38
SPEAKER_00: Or at least they should be.
24:39
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, they but they know all that stuff.
24:41
SPEAKER_05: The classic rock fan is not necessarily familiar with all the modern rock stuff.
24:46
SPEAKER_05: And so so I don't know, I guess uh is there are there signature uh pieces from the modern rock era that are uh on the same level as some of that stuff?
25:01
SPEAKER_00: Well because you know there could be because but I think they're a lot of them are remakes.
25:08
SPEAKER_00: Like when Disturbed came out with uh Sounds of Science Silence, yeah.
25:12
SPEAKER_00: Or when uh Five Finger Death Punch did uh Bad Company.
25:17
SPEAKER_05: Those were great.
25:18
SPEAKER_05: Those were great.
25:19
SPEAKER_05: You know, they weren't the original, but they were they were great for their own.
25:22
SPEAKER_00: But I mean to somebody that doesn't know the originals.
25:25
SPEAKER_00: Right.
25:25
SPEAKER_00: You know, it's like oh yeah, Five Finger Death Punch did it.
25:29
SPEAKER_00: No, man, bad company did that.
25:30
SPEAKER_00: Right.
25:31
SPEAKER_00: Who's bad company?
25:32
unknown: Right.
25:32
SPEAKER_00: You know, so uh you know it's like it's like you know, each each each genre, each genre and generation is gonna have their own.
25:41
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
25:41
SPEAKER_05: I suppose that's true.
25:43
SPEAKER_05: I suppose it's an age in general.
25:44
SPEAKER_00: You know, probably you know, somebody back in 1805 when they heard you know Beethoven's Fifth Symphony, they're like, Oh, hey, guess what?
25:52
SPEAKER_05: Right.
25:52
SPEAKER_05: It's Beethoven, let's do this.
25:54
SPEAKER_00: You know, there's no mosh, you know, I don't think there was a mosh penal.
25:57
SPEAKER_05: You're right.
25:57
SPEAKER_05: So like in ten, fifteen years from now, um a five-finger death punch fan is gonna their the hair on their arms is gonna raise when they hear a certain song from the phone.
26:07
SPEAKER_05: Absolutely.
26:07
SPEAKER_05: Right.
26:07
SPEAKER_00: I mean, you know, I mean i I guess it all depends on who your who your favorite is or what your favorite is.
26:14
SPEAKER_00: I mean But I mean they're so they're so diverse in what they listen to nowadays.
26:19
SPEAKER_00: I mean they don't they don't necessarily listen to just one artist.
26:25
SPEAKER_00: They don't get into that one artist.
26:27
SPEAKER_00: They're then they're oh, here's this and this and this.
26:29
SPEAKER_00: Well that's because of Spotify.
26:31
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
26:31
SPEAKER_00: I mean, that's the internet generation.
26:33
SPEAKER_00: You know, they're that's how they listen to music.
26:35
SPEAKER_00: They don't, you know, with us it was like, oh, Dawkins came out with a new album.
26:39
SPEAKER_00: We're gonna listen to Dawkins for the next six weeks.
26:43
SPEAKER_00: This whole album.
26:44
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
26:47
SPEAKER_00: You know what I mean?
26:48
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
26:48
SPEAKER_00: Uh when we talked about remember when we uh had uh Robert Palmer on the Wall of Tunes the other day?
26:53
SPEAKER_00: Yep.
26:53
SPEAKER_00: I went uh or the other day, a couple weeks ago.
26:57
SPEAKER_00: Um well technically it was the other day.
26:59
SPEAKER_00: Um I went and and uh I downloaded the Power Station album.
27:05
SPEAKER_06: Oh yeah.
27:05
SPEAKER_00: And I I just that's what I that's all I listened to for like three days.
27:10
SPEAKER_05: I do that every almost every podcast.
27:12
SPEAKER_00: I just it was all remastered, you know, you know, from you know early 2000s.
27:18
SPEAKER_00: But it was still so it was so great because it's one of those albums that you listen to every single track.
27:24
SPEAKER_06: Yep.
27:25
SPEAKER_00: But they had multiple like remakes of you know, like Bangagong and like multiple versions.
27:31
SPEAKER_06: Yeah, multiple versions.
27:32
SPEAKER_00: But I mean it all sounded essentially the same.
27:34
SPEAKER_00: I really couldn't tell the difference between the 2005 remaster and the 2006 remaster.
27:39
SPEAKER_05: It sounded the same.
27:40
SPEAKER_05: They need to get you to buy it.
27:41
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but yeah.
27:42
SPEAKER_00: But it was still great.
27:42
SPEAKER_00: It was it was a it was a nice uh thing to do.
27:45
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
27:46
SPEAKER_00: But um, I don't, you know, I was but I'm I'm gonna get that Metallica blacklist album and just because there's a lot of people on that.
27:53
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, like weird.
27:55
SPEAKER_00: Like a 30, 35 different artists and 52 songs.
27:58
SPEAKER_00: I mean, it's huge.
27:59
SPEAKER_00: I mean, it's you know, and there's like four or five versions of each song.
28:03
SPEAKER_05: Right.
28:04
SPEAKER_05: When I said weird people, I didn't mean like weird people, but I mean you wouldn't uh you wouldn't.
28:07
SPEAKER_00: Well, people that you wouldn't necessarily think that would do a Metallica.
28:11
SPEAKER_00: Miley Cyrus is doing Metallica, you know, and it's just and I think I think you know, now that Metallica has come out of, you know, but I feel bad for you know Megadeth and Anthrax and Slayer because they all kind of started together.
28:28
SPEAKER_00: They started this thrash thing.
28:30
SPEAKER_00: And now they're kind of and they're still they're still kind of in sub, you know, obscurity.
28:34
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
28:34
SPEAKER_00: Um, but and they never they never catapulted themselves.
28:38
SPEAKER_00: They never got catapulted like Metallica did.
28:40
SPEAKER_06: Right.
28:40
SPEAKER_00: You know, well, especially but I don't think Slayer ever wanted to be like that.
28:45
SPEAKER_06: Right.
28:45
SPEAKER_00: I think Megad well, Megadeth was like Dave Mustaine because he used to play in Metallica, he was like, ah, this is a screw you to Metallica anyway.
28:56
SPEAKER_00: Because I mean if you listen to Mechanics from the first Megadeth album, it's the exact same thing as four horsemen from it's the same song, just different words.
29:06
SPEAKER_06: Right.
29:07
SPEAKER_00: So you know, Megadeth was always an a middle finger to Metallica.
29:11
SPEAKER_06: Right.
29:11
SPEAKER_00: You know, and anthrax was just they're just fun guys.
29:14
SPEAKER_00: Yep.
29:15
SPEAKER_00: I mean they're super fun.
29:16
SPEAKER_05: They just do what there was a time in the 90s when we we loved anthrax, man.
29:22
SPEAKER_00: Starting up a posse.
29:23
SPEAKER_00: Remember that song?
29:24
SPEAKER_00: We used to drive around and just crank that song and just sing it at the top of our lungs.
29:29
SPEAKER_05: And uh was that I'm the man.
29:31
SPEAKER_00: I'm the man.
29:32
SPEAKER_00: I'm the man.
29:32
SPEAKER_00: That was I mean really, if you think about it, I'm the man was the first well, not one of the first, but I think it was the first time rapid rock had ever mixed.
29:46
SPEAKER_00: Because I think I'm the man came out before Run DMC and Aerosmith.
29:50
SPEAKER_00: Well, no, even before that, when they did uh um fight the uh public enemy with public enemy.
30:03
SPEAKER_00: I do the I do the stupid week.
30:04
SPEAKER_05: You do, you you do.
30:05
SPEAKER_05: Um Bring the Noise.
30:07
SPEAKER_05: Bring the Noise.
30:07
SPEAKER_05: Bring the Noise.
30:08
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, because that Bring the Noise was actually a public enemy song.
30:11
SPEAKER_05: Right.
30:11
SPEAKER_00: But Anthrax covered it, and then so they joined forces.
30:15
SPEAKER_00: But I think I'm the man was done even before that.
30:18
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
30:18
SPEAKER_00: I think they were that I so I mean, really, I I credit Anthrax with bringing rap and rock together.
30:25
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
30:26
SPEAKER_05: Is uh you you mentioned that Metallica took off and the other ones are kind of still you know in their shadow.
30:33
SPEAKER_05: Is that their fault though?
30:34
SPEAKER_05: Who?
30:35
SPEAKER_05: Like like like Anthrax and Megadeth.
30:37
SPEAKER_05: I mean, is that is it is it their fault that Metallica just shot to superstard them and they didn't?
30:42
SPEAKER_00: I don't think it's their fault.
30:44
SPEAKER_05: I think it's just I didn't word that right.
30:46
SPEAKER_05: I mean, it's like it's like did they not do something?
30:50
SPEAKER_00: No, I d I think it was just I think it was just luck of the draw.
30:55
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
30:56
SPEAKER_00: You know?
30:57
unknown: Yeah.
30:58
SPEAKER_00: It's not that m the rest of them didn't come out with great songs because they really did.
31:02
SPEAKER_06: Yep.
31:03
SPEAKER_00: You know?
31:04
SPEAKER_00: Unless well, Slayer.
31:06
SPEAKER_00: I mean Rain and Blood, you know.
31:10
SPEAKER_00: I mean, they're they were never gonna be mainstream.
31:12
SPEAKER_06: Right.
31:13
SPEAKER_00: I mean, it just it just wasn't gonna happen.
31:15
SPEAKER_00: And then I don't think they really wanted to.
31:17
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
31:17
SPEAKER_00: I mean, they were just they were very, you know, we're gonna play Satan worshiping music, except we're not Satan worshippers.
31:24
SPEAKER_00: Right.
31:24
SPEAKER_00: You know, we're just we're just we're just we're just making money off this.
31:28
SPEAKER_00: Not everybody knows that.
31:29
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
31:29
SPEAKER_00: I I I think I think that would surprise people because none of them are into worshiping Satan, none of them.
31:35
SPEAKER_00: Right.
31:36
SPEAKER_00: But they made m millions off of you know, people going, oh, this is Satan worship music, I'm gonna buy it.
31:42
SPEAKER_00: And they were like, suckers, you know.
31:45
SPEAKER_00: But you know, but but I think it was just you know, Metallica just did it right.
31:51
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
31:52
SPEAKER_00: You know, I mean, I mean, there's nobody more there's nobody more self-promoting than Lars Yulrich.
32:00
SPEAKER_06: Yep.
32:00
SPEAKER_00: You know what I mean?
32:01
SPEAKER_00: That guy is everywhere.
32:03
SPEAKER_00: James was kind of the he's the brains behind the operation.
32:07
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
32:08
SPEAKER_00: Lars is the mouthpiece.
32:09
SPEAKER_00: That's and he's a big mouth.
32:11
SPEAKER_06: Yep.
32:11
SPEAKER_00: You know, he just he's just very driven.
32:15
unknown: Yep.
32:16
SPEAKER_00: He put Metallica together.
32:17
SPEAKER_00: It was his ad in the newspaper, in that, in that magazine that got him together with James Hetfield in the first place.
32:24
SPEAKER_06: Right.
32:24
SPEAKER_00: He's the one that put the ad.
32:25
SPEAKER_00: That's you know, James answered the ad.
32:28
SPEAKER_00: Boom.
32:29
SPEAKER_06: Right.
32:30
SPEAKER_00: He's really, he's really the he's you know, it's his force of his personality and his drive and his passion for what he does and for his band.
32:40
SPEAKER_06: Yep.
32:41
SPEAKER_00: I think that I think I think Lars has a lot to do with why Metallica is, you know, he promoted it.
32:48
SPEAKER_00: James wrote great songs and had great music.
32:51
SPEAKER_00: Yep.
32:51
SPEAKER_00: But Lars made it go.
32:53
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I don't disagree with that.
32:54
SPEAKER_05: So actually, you know.
32:56
SPEAKER_05: Yep.
32:57
SPEAKER_05: Um you mentioned that um that after our podcast a couple weeks ago, you went and and downloaded uh power station.
33:06
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
33:07
SPEAKER_05: I do that almost every podcast.
33:09
SPEAKER_05: Um when we talk about an artist that I uh like from the Wall of Tunes, that maybe I haven't listened to for a long time.
33:16
SPEAKER_05: Like as soon as we you you leave, I'll I'll get the the CD and I'll pop it in and and listen to it for like the next two or three days.
33:23
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, exactly, man.
33:24
SPEAKER_05: You know, because it's it's obviously I have it on the Wall of Tunes for a reason.
33:27
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
33:28
SPEAKER_05: Uh and I may not have listened to it.
33:30
SPEAKER_05: Uh I will tell you what's been happening lately.
33:32
SPEAKER_05: I'm I'm reading this John Hyatt book.
33:35
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
33:36
SPEAKER_05: Uh finally they came out with a a basically a biography of John Hyatt, the John Hyatt story.
33:41
SPEAKER_05: It's called Have a Little Faith, the John Hyatt story.
33:44
SPEAKER_05: I'm more than halfway done.
33:46
SPEAKER_05: Um and it's awesome.
33:50
SPEAKER_05: Um I think it would be better if he had written it, you know, just because I think his sense of humor and stuff would come through.
33:56
SPEAKER_05: Oh yeah, yeah.
33:56
SPEAKER_05: But the guy that did write it, uh I forgot his name, Michael something.
34:00
SPEAKER_05: Michael Elliott, I think, is is who wrote it.
34:03
SPEAKER_05: Um he does he did his homework.
34:06
SPEAKER_05: He's got John Hyatt, uh he interviewed John Hyatt for it, you can tell, and he interviewed a lot of people throughout John Hyatt's life.
34:14
SPEAKER_05: And it's it's just comprehensive.
34:17
SPEAKER_05: I mean, it's really, really well done so far.
34:20
SPEAKER_05: And uh I learned some things I didn't know.
34:23
SPEAKER_05: Um and but what it has caused me to do is I mean, there was a time not long ago that that's all I listened to was John Hyatt.
34:34
SPEAKER_05: Oh yeah, yeah.
34:35
SPEAKER_05: I love John Hyatt.
34:36
SPEAKER_05: And a lot a lot I model a lot of my writing after John Hyatt.
34:40
SPEAKER_05: Yes.
34:40
SPEAKER_05: You know, uh as a as a tribute, and just because I I love his writing so much.
34:46
SPEAKER_05: Um I went back and listened to some stuff and I just I mean, because I hadn't listened to it in such a long time, and I mean I have virtually every John Hyatt album that he's ever made.
34:56
SPEAKER_05: Um and I just I'm I'm just uh in awe of the the uh output of that guy.
35:06
SPEAKER_05: Um he's still going, man.
35:08
SPEAKER_05: And he's still going.
35:09
SPEAKER_05: And actually matter of fact, we're we're taping this on Monday night, October 4th, and I think right now there's a there's a um movie being uh premiered online somewhere uh where he and Jerry Douglas, his new album, is uh is Jerry Douglas, the the famous uh Dobo Dobro player and his band in Nashville.
35:30
SPEAKER_05: They are doing a uh a performance or something um in Studio B in Nashville, which is where Elvis Presley uh recorded most of his stuff.
35:40
SPEAKER_05: RCA Studio B.
35:41
SPEAKER_05: So they're that's going on right now, as a matter of fact.
35:44
SPEAKER_05: Um so I'll probably have to watch that at another time.
35:47
SPEAKER_05: But uh yeah, it's still going.
35:50
SPEAKER_05: It's different.
35:51
SPEAKER_05: And you and and when you read the book, you realize, and we've always talked about how he likes to change things up all the time.
35:58
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
35:58
SPEAKER_05: Because the band names that he comes up with and and the directions that he goes.
36:03
SPEAKER_00: Ageless Beauties is so far my favorite one.
36:05
SPEAKER_00: Ageless Beauties, yeah.
36:07
SPEAKER_00: Uh uh John Hyatt and the Goners, John Hyatt and the The Guilty Dogs, all the guilty dogs, the Nashville Queens.
36:14
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
36:14
SPEAKER_05: You know.
36:15
SPEAKER_05: Um but what I'm saying is he uh he wants to do different things.
36:20
SPEAKER_05: Like he he did the f the 70s folk thing, he did the 80s new wave thing, um, then he did his his what they call a trilogy, his sober trilogy, which was Bring the Family Slow Turning and Stolen Moments.
36:36
SPEAKER_05: And then he went a little harder because his son and this was interesting to me, uh the inspiration for perfectly good guitar, the sound of perfectly good guitar, the album was uh his stepson was a huge fan of Faith No More.
36:57
SPEAKER_05: And they would listen to Faith No More when he took him to school every morning, and he dug it.
37:01
SPEAKER_05: I mean he was it was very and the producer of Faith No More was Matt Wallace, who's a huge John Hyatt fan.
37:08
SPEAKER_05: So they kind of hooked up.
37:09
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, fortuitous.
37:11
SPEAKER_05: And so he got a bunch of young players and and they did the perfectly good guitar album, and it's a lot meatier than the stuff that he he did in the past.
37:19
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
37:19
SPEAKER_05: Uh the sent the sonically.
37:21
SPEAKER_05: Um anyway, so I'm gonna let you read this book when I'm done.
37:24
SPEAKER_05: It's but it's uh I do that every time.
37:27
SPEAKER_05: Um when I'm either with I'm I'm reading a biography, I I dig out their their uh catalog.
37:34
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
37:34
SPEAKER_05: When we do a podcast and we talk about the Wall of Tunes, the uh artist, I dig out their catalog and I listen to it.
37:40
SPEAKER_05: And that's one of the my favorite things about doing this podcast is I've like, there's a reason I listen to these guys and and I just have not had time or the wherewithal to sit down and enjoy it.
37:53
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
37:53
SPEAKER_05: You know, and so I I I've I've been doing that a lot more.
37:56
SPEAKER_00: Well I just hope it uh other people do it too.
37:59
SPEAKER_00: I do this.
38:00
SPEAKER_00: I hope they listen to the podcast and go, oh man, I love you know, I want to listen to this exactly this guy.
38:04
SPEAKER_00: I don't want to, you know, haven't listened to this forever, I'm gonna listen to it.
38:07
SPEAKER_05: Right.
38:07
SPEAKER_05: You know, and I also like to introduce artists, you know, that I listen to that maybe not many people know about.
38:15
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
38:15
SPEAKER_05: You know, and there's a reason that I listen to them because I I for dig them for some for some reason.
38:20
SPEAKER_05: So um yeah.
38:22
SPEAKER_05: So let's do well, this is an interesting one.
38:26
SPEAKER_05: So we're gonna do the Comic Crossing Song of the Week.
38:28
SPEAKER_05: We didn't do it last week.
38:30
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
38:30
SPEAKER_01: We took a week off.
38:31
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, we took a week off from the Song of the Week um because we're kind of out of uh really out of We're on this is our 75th episode.
38:43
SPEAKER_05: Right.
38:44
SPEAKER_00: You know, we you know we have a lot of songs, but not all of them are on tape or C D.
38:51
SPEAKER_00: Right.
38:52
SPEAKER_00: You know, they're they're still on a piece of paper with chord changes.
38:55
unknown: Right.
38:56
SPEAKER_00: You know what I mean?
38:56
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
38:57
SPEAKER_05: Um so one thing that we did do, and I'm we found some some cassettes um and I f I I think it's cued up to a song right now, and I we were just kind of we were just before the podcast started, we were just kinda I found a cassette and put it in, uh, put it through the system, and um it was a song that I had written for my wife among many.
39:26
SPEAKER_05: Um and it was on a four-track with a drum machine.
39:31
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
39:32
SPEAKER_05: Um it's a love song.
39:35
SPEAKER_05: So I think it's called For You.
39:37
SPEAKER_05: Could be, I don't remember.
39:38
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I think it's called Just For You or For You or something like that.
39:41
SPEAKER_05: And it's really bad, but that's okay.
39:44
SPEAKER_00: It was the mid-90s, man.
39:46
SPEAKER_05: It was the mid-90s, and I was just starting.
39:48
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
39:48
SPEAKER_05: And and I was in love, and um I think I think we're okay to play it.
39:56
SPEAKER_05: I'm gonna cringe.
39:57
SPEAKER_05: I know I am.
39:58
SPEAKER_05: But um I have it uh you can hear the hiss already.
40:02
SPEAKER_05: Can you hear that?
40:05
SPEAKER_05: So I'm gonna go over there and I'm gonna hit it.
40:07
SPEAKER_00: I I miss that sound.
40:09
SPEAKER_05: I do too to a to a certain extent.
40:11
SPEAKER_00: I mean, I like the crispness of uh digital, but you know there was something comforting comforting about hearing that hiss.
40:19
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, well that's why I like vinyl so much too, you know.
40:22
SPEAKER_05: Alright, so I'm gonna go over there and I'm gonna hit play on this cassette and uh hopefully it's cued up properly.
40:28
SPEAKER_05: Magic has gonna happen.
40:30
SPEAKER_00: Get ready.
40:30
SPEAKER_05: So this isn't technically this isn't a um common crossing song, right?
40:35
SPEAKER_00: Well, it's really just I don't know.
40:38
SPEAKER_00: I don't remember if I don't know this one.
40:40
SPEAKER_00: I don't remember doing this.
40:42
SPEAKER_06: It was my drum machine, but it was yeah, it was a good one.
40:51
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's gone.
45:37
SPEAKER_00: A little bit of passion there.
45:39
SPEAKER_04: That's your big job.
45:55
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, so.
45:57
SPEAKER_05: Well, it worked.
45:59
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
46:00
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
46:01
SPEAKER_00: Kids have it so easy these days.
46:02
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I know, right?
46:03
SPEAKER_00: Garage band, they just, you know, plug it into a computer and they have a song.
46:07
SPEAKER_06: Right.
46:07
SPEAKER_00: You had to plug, it was on tape for one thing.
46:11
SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
46:11
SPEAKER_00: You know, you had to use a drum machine that sounds like, you know, crap.
46:17
SPEAKER_00: You know what I mean?
46:18
SPEAKER_00: I mean, this is the best of mid-90s technology right here.
46:21
SPEAKER_00: Right.
46:21
SPEAKER_00: You know what I mean?
46:22
SPEAKER_05: So uh You kids are spoiled.
46:25
SPEAKER_05: I will say, so I we we may have uh touched on this a little bit, but before Comic Crossing, uh, we were the Blake Street Boys.
46:32
SPEAKER_05: Yes.
46:33
SPEAKER_00: That was definitely a Blake Blake Street Boys song.
46:36
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
46:36
SPEAKER_05: Um and and again, it was it was your drum machine.
46:39
SPEAKER_05: I don't think you were playing it.
46:40
SPEAKER_05: I think it was just No, no, you I think it was just a preset programming.
46:43
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, programming.
46:43
SPEAKER_05: But we do have recordings of of songs with you playing the drum machine.
46:49
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, because it had pads on it.
46:51
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
46:51
SPEAKER_00: And you could play it with sticks, but it's you know it sounded terrible.
46:55
SPEAKER_00: It was awful because it would sometimes be off by just like a millisecond, but it would be so noticeable.
47:00
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but at the time it was fun.
47:02
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we had a great time with it.
47:03
SPEAKER_05: So uh at the time it was like, whoa, look at us, we're like rock gods, you know.
47:08
SPEAKER_05: Right.
47:09
SPEAKER_05: So so we'll find some of those Blake Street Boys songs because essentially, I mean, it's still you and I.
47:14
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
47:15
SPEAKER_05: And I don't think Shane was in the Blake Street Boys, but No, Shane wasn't in it, it was Nate.
47:19
SPEAKER_05: Right.
47:20
SPEAKER_05: But he's familiar with some of that stuff.
47:22
SPEAKER_05: Oh, yeah, yeah.
47:23
SPEAKER_05: So we'll uh we'll we'll mine some of that stuff.
47:25
SPEAKER_05: I know there's there's some some stuff kicking around here, um, but that's that's uh for you.
47:32
SPEAKER_05: All of it's for you.
47:33
SPEAKER_05: All of it's for you.
47:33
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
47:34
SPEAKER_05: That is the uh Comic Crossing song of the week.
47:37
SPEAKER_05: Um and uh yeah.
47:39
SPEAKER_05: So we're gonna do the Wall of Tunes.
47:41
SPEAKER_05: So let's uh Oh yeah, we're gonna do that.
47:42
SPEAKER_00: Let's try to find out what the uh what's the translation this week?
47:51
SPEAKER_00: Lithuanian.
47:52
SPEAKER_05: Oh yes.
47:53
SPEAKER_05: Here we go.
47:54
SPEAKER_05: Wall of Tunes in Lithuanian.
48:01
SPEAKER_00: Oh that's uh that's a crazy looking word.
48:07
SPEAKER_00: Oh, we can't get any speech up.
48:12
SPEAKER_00: That's what it is, isn't it?
48:13
SPEAKER_00: No.
48:14
SPEAKER_00: Um e l o D I J Y is the first word.
48:31
SPEAKER_00: S-I-E-N-A is the second word.
48:34
SPEAKER_05: Wall of tunes.
48:35
SPEAKER_00: So I I I'm assuming that Siena is wall.
48:39
SPEAKER_00: And because mellow melouigi looks like tunes music.
48:44
SPEAKER_00: Right.
48:45
SPEAKER_00: Well, there you go.
48:46
SPEAKER_00: There you go.
48:46
SPEAKER_00: Lithuanian.
48:47
SPEAKER_00: That's coming up next.
48:49
SPEAKER_01: Yeah! You're gonna love it.
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50:01
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50:06
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50:09
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50:11
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50:15
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50:16
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50:18
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50:19
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50:22
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50:22
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50:25
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50:30
SPEAKER_05: So it is time for the Wall of Tunes.
50:32
SPEAKER_05: Are you ready to cover up your put the shroud on?
50:36
SPEAKER_05: Alright.
50:37
SPEAKER_01: It is here.
50:39
SPEAKER_01: Okay, okay.
50:40
SPEAKER_01: I can't see anything.
50:52
SPEAKER_00: Uh-huh.
50:55
SPEAKER_00: Some of those guys from Sesame Street.
50:58
SPEAKER_00: I don't remember either.
50:59
SPEAKER_00: These are just puppets.
51:10
SPEAKER_05: I don't know if we've done this one before or not.
51:12
SPEAKER_05: Okay.
51:12
SPEAKER_05: Um, but I know you won't get it.
51:14
SPEAKER_05: Okay.
51:15
SPEAKER_00: Well, that was fun.
51:17
SPEAKER_00: See you next week.
51:20
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, because I don't think anybody's ever heard of these guys.
51:23
SPEAKER_05: Okay.
51:24
SPEAKER_05: Um, should I just say who it is?
51:27
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, let's uh it takes it takes away the fun, I know.
51:32
SPEAKER_05: If I have never heard of them, you will not know who this is.
51:35
SPEAKER_05: And and and for lots of reasons, many people don't know who this is.
51:39
SPEAKER_05: Have we done this before?
51:40
SPEAKER_05: Have we done the dirt drifters?
51:42
SPEAKER_00: No, we haven't, but I do know who the dirt drifters is.
51:44
SPEAKER_00: You do?
51:45
SPEAKER_00: I have that album.
51:45
SPEAKER_00: You do?
51:46
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
51:47
SPEAKER_00: Holy cow, you're the only person I know that has this album.
51:49
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
51:50
SPEAKER_00: You you you played it for me one and I was like, oh man, I gotta get that album.
51:53
SPEAKER_05: So we haven't done it before then.
51:55
SPEAKER_05: No, we've never done it.
51:56
SPEAKER_05: Okay, so this is one of the biggest mysteries to me, the dirt drifters.
52:00
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, they just kind of came out of nowhere and then they disappeared.
52:04
SPEAKER_00: Disappeared again.
52:04
SPEAKER_00: It was like, you know, they're like the poltergeist of uh music.
52:08
SPEAKER_05: So what I saw, I saw uh uh a video.
52:12
SPEAKER_05: Um CMT used to play um what do they call them?
52:16
SPEAKER_05: They used to play like uh edgy country videos like late at night.
52:20
SPEAKER_05: The that John Hyatt would be like on the edgy country show.
52:24
SPEAKER_05: Right.
52:24
SPEAKER_05: You know, they'd show show these videos that aren't like Blake Shelton and stuff like that, like mainstream country, but they're kinda like on the fringe.
52:32
SPEAKER_05: And so they played this uh video for a song called Something Better by the Dirt Drifters.
52:37
SPEAKER_05: And I loved it.
52:38
SPEAKER_05: It was fun and it was just it was really cool.
52:41
SPEAKER_05: And so I went out and I bought the album and I listened to the album, and the album is amazing.
52:46
SPEAKER_05: It's a great album.
52:47
SPEAKER_05: It's it's it's country rock.
52:50
SPEAKER_05: Um I would say more country than rock, but it's definitely country with an edge.
52:55
SPEAKER_05: Um they have a duet on here with uh Willie Nelson uh that's fairly controversial.
53:00
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's that's my favorite song.
53:01
SPEAKER_00: It's called I'll Shut Up Now.
53:02
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I love that song.
53:04
SPEAKER_05: And it's fairly controversial because they basically speak the truth about a lot of things.
53:09
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
53:10
SPEAKER_05: But there's some poignant songs on there.
53:12
SPEAKER_05: Uh Hurt Somebody, This Is My Blood, Name on My Shirt.
53:17
SPEAKER_00: Name on My Shirt is a really great song.
53:20
SPEAKER_05: Um and here's the thing.
53:23
SPEAKER_05: There I think there were brothers.
53:25
SPEAKER_05: Um Fleener, I think it's uh Matt Fleener and Fleener.
53:33
SPEAKER_05: I think it's Matt Fleener.
53:34
SPEAKER_00: What's your name?
53:35
SPEAKER_00: Matt Fleener.
53:37
SPEAKER_05: Ryan Fleener, and Matt Fleener.
53:41
SPEAKER_05: And then a bunch of other guys in the group too, but um uh one of them Matt Fleener, I think, was the lead singer.
53:48
SPEAKER_05: Um and song and and principal songwriter.
53:51
SPEAKER_05: Um what did I do with my color?
53:56
SPEAKER_05: Um But they put out this album and they were on tour and they were they were doing really well and they were kind of coming up pretty quickly.
54:09
SPEAKER_05: And then all of a sudden, and I haven't been able to find anything since there was an announcement put out that uh they were basically uh all the all the concert dates were canceled and they uh they were not gonna be rescheduled, and they just kind of disappeared with no explanation.
54:33
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I mean they just gone.
54:34
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
54:35
SPEAKER_05: Uh it was so weird.
54:37
SPEAKER_05: It was weird.
54:38
SPEAKER_05: Um and it's too bad too, because it's really good.
54:43
SPEAKER_05: It's really good music.
54:44
SPEAKER_05: Um you say name on my shirt?
54:46
SPEAKER_05: Let me see if I can find it.
54:48
SPEAKER_00: I'll shut up or name on my shirt.
54:49
SPEAKER_00: It would be uh really great.
54:53
SPEAKER_05: Well, we'll play a little bit of we'll play a little bit of both of them.
54:56
SPEAKER_05: Um can you imagine if these guys had put out more albums in these?
54:59
SPEAKER_05: I know.
54:59
SPEAKER_00: They would they would have just got better.
55:01
SPEAKER_05: Oh yeah.
55:02
SPEAKER_05: Uh let's see, is this this one here?
55:04
SPEAKER_03: So, my old man picked me up every day at half past four.
55:36
SPEAKER_03: Happy half that old school with all his black four.
55:52
SPEAKER_03: With all that, putting in my time at work, it's written on my head, less than a curse, every day looking older, covered up in grease and dirt, old world above my shoulders, my name on my shirt.
56:20
SPEAKER_05: So, not to you know, spoiler alert, but he goes away and and tries to make it and realizes that r that's all he really wants is to come come back and live the simple life and with his name on his shirt.
56:30
SPEAKER_05: Right.
56:30
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
56:31
SPEAKER_05: Um but it it's just great stuff.
56:35
SPEAKER_05: Let's I'll play some I'll shut up now, because that's that's a great song as well.
56:40
SPEAKER_05: Um last I knew when I was looking for them, um the I don't know if this means anything, you know, if you read into this, but Matt Lena, the the lead singer, had gone and become a sustenance farmer and he was off living off the grid.
57:03
SPEAKER_00: I might as well do it.
57:04
SPEAKER_05: Well, I mean if you think about maybe they just got maybe the whole music business, you know model.
57:11
SPEAKER_05: They just were like, you know, I don't need this crap and then left.
57:15
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, anything's possible.
57:16
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I mean but we just don't know.
57:18
SPEAKER_00: I mean it would have been if they'd come out and said, hey, this is why, we'd have been like, oh, okay, we get it.
57:23
SPEAKER_05: Exactly.
57:24
SPEAKER_00: But you know, the fact that it just disappeared and no explanation whatsoever.
57:28
SPEAKER_00: It's like what happened?
57:30
SPEAKER_00: Alien abduction?
57:32
SPEAKER_00: Did you get sucked into a vortex of some sort?
57:35
SPEAKER_00: Right?
57:37
SPEAKER_05: See, you can't appreciate this because this is nothing stereo.
57:41
SPEAKER_05: But there's another guitar part there.
57:51
SPEAKER_03: Every good politician is dead, or I'm sleeping number on my bed.
57:56
SPEAKER_03: Million bad things running through my head.
57:58
SPEAKER_03: I stood up now.
58:02
SPEAKER_03: Get some on the take a long way home.
58:05
SPEAKER_03: Plot hole hitter with the AC blown.
58:07
SPEAKER_03: Don't make cars like my daddy on.
58:10
SPEAKER_03: I stand up now, I studied now.
58:16
SPEAKER_03: It's just a table.
59:00
SPEAKER_01: I always like that one, I know.
59:11
SPEAKER_00: I love that too.
59:13
SPEAKER_00: It's really it's really awesome.
59:16
SPEAKER_00: Looking for the dumber with a good right hand.
59:23
SPEAKER_05: And that really is Willie Nelson.
59:25
SPEAKER_01: It is, that's what's so great about it.
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SPEAKER_05: So this is and and again, uh my my mixer here is only playing this in in uh mono, so you can't hear the guitar parts, but um This came out in 2011.
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SPEAKER_03: I know John Hancock used disappearing aid.
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SPEAKER_05: That's what death.
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SPEAKER_00: So many great lines in this song.
1:00:28
SPEAKER_05: Such a great song.
1:00:29
SPEAKER_05: It's a great song.
1:00:29
SPEAKER_05: And such a great album.
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SPEAKER_05: Again, Dirt Drifters, uh, This Is My Blood is the name of the album.
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SPEAKER_05: Came out in 2011.
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SPEAKER_05: Uh 11 songs.
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unknown: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_00: They're all they're all banging.
1:00:42
SPEAKER_00: It's all they're they're really great songs.
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SPEAKER_05: Warner Brothers Records, and I I hope to someday find out what happened to them.
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SPEAKER_05: I know that a couple of the members are session players now in Nashville.
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SPEAKER_00: Maybe maybe one of them will hear this and then they'll I doubt it.
1:00:55
SPEAKER_00: But you know, there's a lot of They'll come on and explain.
1:00:58
SPEAKER_00: Oh, you know what?
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SPEAKER_00: That's our new mission.
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SPEAKER_00: To find out what happened to them?
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SPEAKER_00: Fight to have one of the dirt drifters come on and tell us what happened to the band.
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SPEAKER_05: And you know, one of the guys, I was I was looking it up because this really bothers me.
1:01:13
SPEAKER_05: Um I was looking it up uh as to and and there one I'm trying to try to think of who the guy was.
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SPEAKER_05: I think it was the guitar player.
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SPEAKER_05: He's a session player in Nashville.
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SPEAKER_00: Well maybe Josh knows it.
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SPEAKER_00: Maybe Josh, maybe Josh can hook us up with him.
1:01:31
SPEAKER_05: Uh where's the list of the oh it was, I believe it was Jeff Middleton.
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SPEAKER_05: Um, who's on Facebook.
1:01:42
SPEAKER_05: The rest of them aren't and on Facebook, they're not anywhere.
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SPEAKER_05: I don't know.
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SPEAKER_00: Let's see if we can get this Jeff guy to come on the podcast and and ask what happened to your awesome band.
1:01:52
SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_05: I think I'll do that.
1:01:54
SPEAKER_05: I think I'll reach out to him because it's an amazing piece of work.
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SPEAKER_05: I really I really love this album.
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SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I really love it.
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SPEAKER_05: Um go buy it.
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SPEAKER_05: I don't know if you can buy it anymore.
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SPEAKER_05: Maybe they maybe they they don't make it anymore, but if you can find it, the Dirt Drifters, this is my blood.
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SPEAKER_00: That is the uh you won't regret it, man, because it is such a great album.
1:02:14
SPEAKER_05: That is and you know, I shouldn't I I forgot that you I told you about them, so I you probably would have guessed it.
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SPEAKER_05: If I would have said that they they were a country rock band that came out in 2011 uh and then they disappeared.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I would have dropped like dirt drifters.
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SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
1:02:30
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, because uh yeah, super great band.
1:02:33
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, super great band.
1:02:34
SPEAKER_00: Just so just so weird.
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SPEAKER_00: It just you know it was weird.
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SPEAKER_00: It's like they got sucked into the Bermuda Triangle or something, you know, just gone.
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SPEAKER_05: Just gone.
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SPEAKER_05: Maybe we'll try and set that up.
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SPEAKER_05: We'll try and get Jeff Middleton on to see to see what happened to them.
1:02:47
SPEAKER_05: So that'll be cool.
1:02:48
SPEAKER_05: Uh well, there you go.
1:02:49
SPEAKER_05: Season four, episode 18.
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SPEAKER_05: In the books.
1:02:55
SPEAKER_05: Um We talked about Metallica, we talked about iconic uh motifs and riffs and sounds and classic rock.
1:03:03
SPEAKER_05: Um we played an old, old, old, old Super Old Lake Street Boys song.
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SPEAKER_00: It's hard to believe that song is probably what?
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SPEAKER_00: Almost 30 years?
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SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_05: 30 years, dude.
1:03:18
SPEAKER_05: I don't know.
1:03:18
SPEAKER_05: I don't even want to think about it.
1:03:19
SPEAKER_05: Where'd a freak did time go?
1:03:20
SPEAKER_05: I don't want to think about it.
1:03:22
SPEAKER_05: But there's more where that came from, isn't it?
1:03:23
SPEAKER_05: I know, that's the crazy thing, man.
1:03:26
SPEAKER_00: It does in my brain, it doesn't seem like it was that long ago.
1:03:29
SPEAKER_05: I know.
1:03:30
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I know.
1:03:31
SPEAKER_00: When we sat in that freaking Blake Street apartment with just, you know, acoustic guitars and a you know, a drum machine and a broken guitar and a shaker, and we made some pretty cool music.
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SPEAKER_05: Next year is my 30th high school reunion.
1:03:50
SPEAKER_05: So you graduated in 92.
1:03:51
SPEAKER_05: So graduated in 92.
1:03:53
SPEAKER_05: So we probably because you got out of the Marines in what, 94?
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SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
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SPEAKER_05: So, yeah, almost 30 years.
1:03:59
SPEAKER_05: That's so weird, man.
1:04:00
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, yeah, it's crazy.
1:04:02
SPEAKER_05: So weird.
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SPEAKER_05: Crazy.
1:04:04
SPEAKER_05: Um, all right.
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SPEAKER_05: So episode 19 next week.
1:04:07
SPEAKER_05: Um Yeah, we're almost out of, we're almost done the season.
1:04:10
SPEAKER_05: Yeah, and we still haven't had a guest on.
1:04:12
SPEAKER_00: Well, we're we're working on that.
1:04:14
SPEAKER_00: Right.
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SPEAKER_01: All right, uh, until next week.
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