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Is Trump's Iran Deal a TRAP — Iranian Escapee Dr. Sheila Nazarian Reveals the Real Plan · Unshaken & Unafraid with Joe Pags

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Speaker 1: I mentioned this from the very beginning when the President
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Speaker 1: said we're going to Iran. I wasn't very happy about it.
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Speaker 1: I didn't really want us to. But if we're going to,
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Speaker 1: let's do the deed. Let's just get it done. If
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Speaker 1: you're going to go in, make sure that you go
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Speaker 1: in and the bad guys that have been running that
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Speaker 1: joint for forty seven years shouldn't be there anymore. He
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Speaker 1: literally said on Night one, the Iranian people have a
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Speaker 1: chance to get their country back for the first time
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Speaker 1: in almost fifty years, and it might be the only
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Speaker 1: chance they get with this new deal. It doesn't appear
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Speaker 1: as though that's happening right now, and that doesn't make
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Speaker 1: me necessarily very happy. It doesn't make this young lady
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Speaker 1: very happy either, Doctor Mishila and Nazarian of course, Iranian
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Speaker 1: American plastic surgeon. You's here on Fox News. You's here
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Speaker 1: all over the place, and a friend of ours, Sheila,
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Speaker 1: good to see again.
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Speaker 2: How are you great to see? Joe. I'm equally as
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Speaker 2: a peeved as you are.
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Speaker 1: Well. You and I both heard what he said the
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Speaker 1: first night, and you and I believed him, and I
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Speaker 1: don't think the Iranian people have gotten a chance to
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Speaker 1: get their country back. Did I miss something?
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Speaker 3: Well, I think what he did when he said, you know,
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Speaker 3: help is coming is I think he sent arms to
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Speaker 3: the Kurds who end up up keeping it and not
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Speaker 3: giving it to the people.
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Speaker 2: So uh.
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Speaker 3: He mentioned that, you know later on actually recently, and
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Speaker 3: he said, you know, I did send weapons, and you know,
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Speaker 3: I think the Kurds kept them. So no, I think
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Speaker 3: I think he wanted regime change. I think he's backtracking
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Speaker 3: on that a little bit to call this, you know,
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Speaker 3: a win.
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Speaker 2: But I don't think it's over.
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Speaker 3: You know. I think this is kind of like a
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Speaker 3: little bit of a pause. I think some of the
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Speaker 3: things he's saying make no sense, which just makes me
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Speaker 3: think that this is all like a smoke screen. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: Like he literally came on Joe, did you hear that?
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Speaker 3: When he came on like yesterday I think it was,
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Speaker 3: and he was like, yeah, I'm gonna have Isis go
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Speaker 3: deal with Hezbolah. Like it's just like you know what
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Speaker 3: I mean, it just makes absolutely no sense.
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Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah he did.
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Speaker 3: He went on TV and he's like, yeah, Israel's doing
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Speaker 3: too much. Let's have Syria deal with Hezbolah. I'm like, that.
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Speaker 1: Agreed, they agree with each other. Wait right, So.
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Speaker 3: I'm like, why don't we have the houthies go deal
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Speaker 3: with Hamas Like it just makes no sense a lot
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Speaker 3: of the stuff that's happening, and it just I don't
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Speaker 3: think he's, you know, all of a sudden become a
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Speaker 3: whole new person. I think there's a lot that is
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Speaker 3: being said to either raise oil prices, calm the markets,
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Speaker 3: or you know, make the markets hit record highs, bring
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Speaker 3: down inflation, get us to win mid term elections, and
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Speaker 3: open up the straight.
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Speaker 2: You know.
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Speaker 3: First step is what open up the straight and demind
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Speaker 3: the straight. After that, we're going to go into sixty
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Speaker 3: days of negotiation. Like fine, we'll negotiate for sixty more days,
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Speaker 3: whatever it takes. As long as oil is flowing, you know,
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Speaker 3: oil prices are coming down, inflation's coming down, stock market
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Speaker 3: keeps hitting record highs. So I don't think what he's
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Speaker 3: saying right now we should take it at face value.
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Speaker 3: I think there's a lot of other things happening. But yeah,
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Speaker 3: step one, open the straight, check check, and we'll take
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Speaker 3: it from there.
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Speaker 1: It is doctor Chilnazeri and go follow her everywhere. We
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Speaker 1: follow each other on social media. She's amazing here on
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Speaker 1: Fox News, the whole thing, and she's told me that
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Speaker 1: she's got to do something with my eye lids. I mean,
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Speaker 1: we've talked about this. Having said all of that, I
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Speaker 1: think you nailed it when you you mentioned that he
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Speaker 1: armed the Kurds, and I think somebody got in his
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Speaker 1: ear and said this is the way to do it.
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Speaker 1: The Kurds will take the arms, they'll go down, they'll
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Speaker 1: arm the people. Ninety million Iranians will then take on
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Speaker 1: the two million who are sympathizers, are loyalists to the IRGC,
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Speaker 1: and they'll take them out. The Curds never brought the
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Speaker 1: arms down there, so that was a bad move in
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Speaker 1: that you believe the Kurds. And I don't think the
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Speaker 1: Kurds are going to be honest with us anyway because
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Speaker 1: of the way we left them in Iraq back in
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Speaker 1: the day, that we didn't take care of the Curds. Then,
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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think.
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Speaker 2: It's necessarily that, Joe.
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Speaker 3: I think it's because the Kurds, you know, they're they're
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Speaker 3: everywhere there's there are in a lot of different territories,
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Speaker 3: you know, kind of on the borders of Iran in
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Speaker 3: the mountainous areas and kind of more isolated areas. They're
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Speaker 3: not all homogeneous, okay, there's different sets.
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Speaker 1: I thought they were.
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Speaker 3: No, they're not all homogeneous, okay. And I think that there.
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Speaker 2: They live in the neighborhood.
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Speaker 3: And if there's no guarantee that there's going to be
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Speaker 3: regime change, if if they come and you know, side
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Speaker 3: with Israel and America against the Iranian regime, and the
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Speaker 3: Iranian regime is going to stay in place, that's a
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Speaker 3: huge risk for the Kurds. So I don't think that
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Speaker 3: they would not want to see regime change. I don't
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Speaker 3: think they did things. I think they were calculating. You know,
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Speaker 3: we think the Americans might be underestimating the Iranians. Here
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Speaker 3: in the Iranian regime. We can't guarantee that they're going
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Speaker 3: to be gone, and we are taking a massive risk
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Speaker 3: of annihilation should they stay in place.
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Speaker 1: So right, and that's yeah, that's sort of the comparison
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Speaker 1: to making with Iraq Georgia. Herbert Walker Bush made promises
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Speaker 1: to the Kurds, although they might not be the same Kurds.
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Speaker 1: I hear you, and I'll learn more about that and
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Speaker 1: for next time. But he made them promises, he said
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Speaker 1: that he was going to keep them safe, and then
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Speaker 1: they all died. I mean, Saddam Hussein killed them all.
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Speaker 1: I mean that's just after the Persian Gulf War, not
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Speaker 1: after the Iraq War, but after the Persian Gulf War.
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Speaker 1: They helped us big time, and that helped us get
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Speaker 1: Iraq out of Kuwait, and then they just all died.
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Speaker 1: So I don't I see why they'd be trepidacious. Having
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Speaker 1: said that, why does the h GC or the theocracy
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Speaker 1: allowed them to even exist. They're not following the same
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Speaker 1: exact rules as the theocracy does. Why are they allowing
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Speaker 1: them to exist? I want them too, I don't have
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Speaker 1: to die. But how are their Kurds in Iran and
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Speaker 1: getting away with it?
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Speaker 3: Well? I think again, they're in the periphery. They're not
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Speaker 3: like living, you know, in huge amounts in the cities, right,
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Speaker 3: They're in the mountains. They're in the periphery. They're in
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Speaker 3: the border with Iraq. So in order for the Iranian
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Speaker 3: regime to make this a priority, they would literally have
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Speaker 3: to tie up military personnel, arms, everything to go fight
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Speaker 3: the Kurds in the mountains.
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Speaker 2: Like, what do they care? They're in the mountains, gotcha.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, well that makes sense. It's doctor shil and Azarian
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Speaker 1: always appreciate you coming on. So let's break down what
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Speaker 1: we do do. Because I was really bothered a couple
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Speaker 1: of weeks ago. I bet you probably were too that
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Speaker 1: Akmadinajad was being talked about as an interim guy. I'm like, really,
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Speaker 1: the guy who said the blood of the Jews should
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Speaker 1: flow in the streets, that death to America, chance were
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Speaker 1: alive and well while he was in office. I know
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Speaker 1: he doesn't get along with the Iatolas right now, but
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Speaker 1: so what was Akmadinajab the guy that you, as an
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Speaker 1: Iranian thought would be the right guy to put in place,
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Speaker 1: because I thought Pavlabi should be the guy at least
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Speaker 1: for six months. Then you have free and fair elections
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Speaker 1: after that. What do you make of that alleged coalition
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Speaker 1: that was going on between us, the Israelis and akmadiina Jad.
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Speaker 3: So Joe, I think it's a little uh, I don't
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Speaker 3: know a little bit of utopia to think that they're
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Speaker 3: going to get to free and fair elections in six months.
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Speaker 3: I think it's going to be a windy road. This
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Speaker 3: is a regime that is very smart. Think of the
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Speaker 3: Iranian people in America and how smart they are and
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Speaker 3: how successful that become. Take that same brain and apply
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Speaker 3: a different moral code to it, and you.
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Speaker 2: Have the regime.
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Speaker 3: So to underestimate the regime and think that they've been
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Speaker 3: in power for forty seven years and we're going to
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Speaker 3: have free and fair elections in six months is a
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Speaker 3: little unrealistic. I think it's going to be a windy road,
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Speaker 3: and I think we're going to have to tolerate certain
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Speaker 3: people that might be able to throw some weight around
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Speaker 3: and slowly take steps towards that. And we've seen it before.
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Speaker 3: You know. Trump is always like, oh, I have, you know,
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Speaker 3: great relationship with Putin.
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Speaker 2: You know, I have a great relationship. I don't know.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, And it freaks the left out every time he
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Speaker 1: says it. But I get I get what you're laying down.
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Speaker 1: If you need to use aquadinajod for a minute, I
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Speaker 1: get it. In sort of a transitory thing, it's sort
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Speaker 1: of the same thing as this person who's running Venezuela
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Speaker 1: right now, who is the vice president of Maduro. I mean,
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Speaker 1: but she's you know, in line, this Yelz Rodriguez, whatever
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Speaker 1: her name is. But she's in line and doing what
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Speaker 1: Trump wants. So Aquadinajad could have been somebody that would
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Speaker 1: be more trusted, certainly than an Ayatola system.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not saying he could have been trusted like,
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Speaker 3: I don't think I trust any of these people like
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Speaker 3: at all.
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Speaker 1: It would have been easier to control, though than the
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Speaker 1: theocracy he I mean, and that.
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Speaker 2: Might be his use, you know.
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Speaker 3: So you know, we can't apply our democracy, we can't
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Speaker 3: apply like even even democracy, and Iranjo is not going
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Speaker 3: to look like democracy here.
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Speaker 2: I always said it from the beginning. It's going to
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Speaker 2: be a mixture.
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Speaker 3: Of El Salvador with you know, millions of people in
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Speaker 3: jail with their headstains.
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Speaker 2: Did you see those videos of like the El Salvadorian
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Speaker 2: gang members.
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Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, so it has to be a mixture of
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Speaker 3: that and democracy, which is what it was with the
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Speaker 3: first Shaw. You know, that was one of the big
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Speaker 3: criticisms with the first Shaw was, oh, he jails all
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Speaker 3: the communists and put them into a solitary confinement. You know,
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Speaker 3: teachers aren't allowed to wear head jobs in the classrooms.
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Speaker 3: It's so discriminatory against you know, observant Muslims. But he
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Speaker 3: was keeping his thumb on the opposition, and he saw
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Speaker 3: what happens in that neighborhood when you let communism and
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Speaker 3: Islamism run wild.
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Speaker 2: So it's gonna be it's not the same.
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Speaker 3: We can't apply the same type of government situation that
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Speaker 3: we enjoy here in America to that neighborhood.
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Speaker 1: It's a doctor Schill and Isarien. Let me ask a
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Speaker 1: little bit more about the Shaw system before it was
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Speaker 1: taken by the revolution whatever we're calling it. That Jimmy
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Speaker 1: Carter actually let it happen. But let's talk about the
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Speaker 1: Shaw system. I've seen videos from the nineteen seventies or
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Speaker 1: film I guess from the nineteen seventies, women in bikinis,
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Speaker 1: people enjoying the beach, people enjoying, you know, their life
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Speaker 1: in a much more free fashion. You wouldn't be beaten
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Speaker 1: to death if you didn't have your he job on right.
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Speaker 1: So how did they go from how did they go
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Speaker 1: from that to this? I mean, I would guess there
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Speaker 1: were still a lot of people who followed Islam in
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Speaker 1: Iran back in the day, or were there none because
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Speaker 1: it is an Islamic country now because the government forces
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Speaker 1: you to be I get it. Most people are actually
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Speaker 1: looking at Christianity. A lot of people are. There are
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Speaker 1: Jews living there that don't dare talk about it, and
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Speaker 1: then there are people who don't believe in anything. But
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Speaker 1: back then, wasn't it still basically a Muslim country? How
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Speaker 1: did the Shaw allow for all of that freedom knowing
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Speaker 1: what a theocracy that follows Islam very fundamentally does.
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Speaker 3: Now well, I mean it's very similar to other countries,
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Speaker 3: Like look at how Turkey used to be very similar.
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Speaker 3: Look at you know, parts of Dubai. If you go
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Speaker 3: to a beach club in Dubai, it's so fun. I
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Speaker 3: went there for the first time a couple of years ago,
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Speaker 3: and I looked on the internet said you have to
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Speaker 3: cover yourself and like all this stuff. I get there,
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Speaker 3: I met the Four Seasons Jumaira. Everyone's naked, so I
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Speaker 3: was like, I've hacked.
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Speaker 2: Shopping.
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Speaker 3: But yeah, it was very European, like you know, and
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Speaker 3: so was you know, Lebanon was you know, Christian and
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Speaker 3: Muslim and it's very similar. And it's a it's a
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Speaker 3: cautionary tale for America because you know, they installed the
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Speaker 3: Ayatola thinking that it's going to be an Islamic kind
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Speaker 3: of belt to prevent communism from coming south from Russia.
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Speaker 3: And you know they installed the Ayahtola. They didn't like
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Speaker 3: the shop because he didn't want to give cheap gas
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Speaker 3: for many reasons. And yes, Carter is like the sea
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Speaker 3: word for all Iranians. Our left eye starts to twitch
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Speaker 3: when we hear that name. And and so yeah, you know,
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Speaker 3: it quickly went to an Islamic country.
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Speaker 2: Now we see the same things here, right, They're.
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Speaker 3: Like, uh, you know, I saw a teacher was just
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Speaker 3: kicked out of a school system because she allowed Kuran
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Speaker 3: to be in her classroom, but not the Bible.
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Speaker 2: I mean, we're seeing it, right.
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Speaker 3: So this sort of like leftist Marxist, communists, socialist alliance
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Speaker 3: with these Islamists which have nothing to do with one another,
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Speaker 3: and fundamentally, would you know, kill each other, which we
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Speaker 3: saw happen in Iron when the Muslims came into power,
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Speaker 3: they kill all the leftists that helped them get into power.
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Speaker 3: But you know, the one thing they have in common
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Speaker 3: is they want to see the downfall of America and
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Speaker 3: the downfall of the West they view as colonizers and
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Speaker 3: pure evil.
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Speaker 2: And so they joined forces.
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Speaker 3: And forget the fact that you know, Muslims will throw
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Speaker 3: you know, LGBTQ person off of a roof, right, so quick.
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Speaker 1: Queers for Palestine is the is the most ridiculous sign
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Speaker 1: I've ever seen. And a lot of people fly that
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Speaker 1: it's doctor Schill and his area. So let me ask
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Speaker 1: you this, And historically speaking, I think you probably know
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Speaker 1: more about that place than I'll ever understand. I know
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Speaker 1: what happened in Venezuela. Chavez lied and said, we're going
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Speaker 1: to take the riches from the evil rich people and
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Speaker 1: gonna spread the wealth and everybody's gonna enjoy it. You're
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Speaker 1: gonna own all the stuff. And then he ended up
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Speaker 1: keeping all the stuff and he made sure the government
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Speaker 1: controlled everything as he ate Prime Rib. You're eating your
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Speaker 1: dog in the street. What did the people the theocracy
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Speaker 1: coming in? What did the revolution tell the people of Iran?
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Speaker 1: How this would be better for the person? People that
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Speaker 1: have a they have a three thousand year history, Shila,
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Speaker 1: How exactly do you it's all going to be all
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Speaker 1: for one, one for all.
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Speaker 2: You're gonna get the riches, yep, exactly.
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Speaker 3: Why is the Shaw living in a castle while there's
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Speaker 3: homeless people on the streets. There's no equity exact same,
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Speaker 3: you know, promises of you'd be more free, you know,
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Speaker 3: there will be more equality as far as wealth is concerned,
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Speaker 3: there'll be more opportunity, say same exact promises, take zoron
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Speaker 3: Mamdani's campaign and rinse and repeat.
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Speaker 1: Well, then why exactly do the people of New York
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Speaker 1: fall for that garbage?
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Speaker 2: Then?
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Speaker 1: You and I were calling it out as it was happening.
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Speaker 1: He was doing Maduro's playbook, he was doing the Iyatolas playbook,
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Speaker 1: and they all say, hey, affordability, yay, affordability, And there's
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Speaker 1: no affordability now. And here's a guy that that's out
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Speaker 1: there complaining about the peak, the peak, the guy bringing
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Speaker 1: in tons of jobs to New York City because he
13:15
Speaker 1: lives in a penthouse. So I mean, why do we
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Speaker 1: keep falling for the oki though? Can't we wake people up?
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Speaker 1: I want to shake them about the shoulder. You know.
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Speaker 3: You know, Joe, when I was running for student body
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Speaker 3: president in the fourth grade, what I did is I
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Speaker 3: promised free ice cream Fridays.
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Speaker 1: I did not. I did not have your run for
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Speaker 1: a student class president in fourth grade on my card today.
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Speaker 1: But this is great. So you make the promises when
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Speaker 1: you run and then you do what you want to.
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Speaker 3: Do once you get it exactly and free is a
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Speaker 3: very I don't know, it's very, very attractive to the
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Speaker 3: people who.
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Speaker 2: You know, maybe feel little disenfranchised.
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Speaker 3: Maybe they majored in gender studies and can't find a
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Speaker 3: job right now. They think it's unfair there. You know,
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Speaker 3: their parents did college and now own home. Well, I
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Speaker 3: did college too, and now I'm just in debt. No
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Speaker 3: one wants to hire me, and I'm living with my
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Speaker 3: parents still. So I think there's a lot of disenfranchised
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Speaker 3: young people and the big block of people.
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Speaker 2: In Iran as well as here.
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Speaker 3: This all started on college campus is exactly the same.
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Speaker 3: I remember when the flash banks were going off at UCLA.
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Speaker 3: You know, there's what we call it Tarandulus here Westwood
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Speaker 3: is literal Iran, and all the elders were like, this
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Speaker 3: sounds exactly like pre revolutionary at Iran. On the college
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Speaker 3: campus is exact same.
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Speaker 1: It is. Doctor schil and Azarian go to Narianplastic Surgery
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Speaker 1: commentator on all things that are going on, especially she's
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Speaker 1: from Iran and we told the story last time of
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Speaker 1: how you got out as we're watching this unfold. I
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Speaker 1: know that you still support the president. I certainly do
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Speaker 1: as well, but we want some answers. We're not seeing
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Speaker 1: the memorandum of understanding. We don't really know what's out there.
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Speaker 1: Some people overseas are releasing something they're calling it. We're
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Speaker 1: not sure if that's really it. Who knows? What do
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Speaker 1: you want to see happen? We know that theocracy is
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Speaker 1: in place today, but the buzzing that I'm getting, the
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Speaker 1: conserv bit of circles in my ear, and even some
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Speaker 1: emails and direct messages I'm getting from powerful people, They're going,
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Speaker 1: just take a breath. He's working on it. Do you
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Speaker 1: trust that?
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Speaker 2: Yes?
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Speaker 3: I do, and I'll tell you it's not. It's not
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Speaker 3: without a single day of freak out on my end.
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Speaker 3: I did have clinical depression about three days ago, and
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Speaker 3: the next day I called similar friends in d C.
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Speaker 3: And they're like, just let it play out, right, take
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Speaker 3: a breath.
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Speaker 2: Everything's gonna be okay. And so you know, I.
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Speaker 1: Mean, we can't name them, but I mean these are
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Speaker 1: people that people watching listening would know. And I'm going, really,
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Speaker 1: because remember he said that theocracy would be gone or
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Speaker 1: they'd get a chance to get their country back. Take
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Speaker 1: a breath, no more shooting for a minute, the go ahead.
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Speaker 2: I will say this too.
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Speaker 3: You know, I love General Jack Keene on Fox, and
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Speaker 3: he was very angry even up to yesterday.
15:48
Speaker 2: But you know, I've been going on Newsmax.
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Speaker 3: Mostly in the last few days, and they always put
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Speaker 1: And I'm like, okay, as an American of Iranian descent
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16:16
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16:22
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Speaker 2: My name is George Washington.
17:47
Speaker 3: You know my husband has a friend who does some
17:50
Speaker 3: business in Iran, A good guy and he basically said
17:54
Speaker 3: what he foresees in Iran is similar to Dubai as
17:58
Speaker 3: the most reasonable step.
18:01
Speaker 2: So you're gonna have the same regime in place.
18:03
Speaker 3: But they've realized that, you know, ninety percent of the
18:06
Speaker 3: country is going to overthrow them if they don't loosen
18:09
Speaker 3: up the grip a little bit. And we already see
18:10
Speaker 3: this in Tehran a little bit, that the women are
18:13
Speaker 3: walking around without her jobs.
18:15
Speaker 2: They're mostly long. Yeah.
18:17
Speaker 3: There you can watch wikipad Pada means walking by foot
18:22
Speaker 3: and there's a page on YouTube called wiki like Wikipedia,
18:25
Speaker 3: but it's wikipiadh and somebody is just like a five
18:28
Speaker 3: K camera walking through the malls, walking through Tehran, walking
18:31
Speaker 3: through different areas. It's really funny. So a lot of
18:34
Speaker 3: women aren't wearing head jobs anymore. I think the most
18:37
Speaker 3: most of them. You could still definitely get bothered. Don't
18:39
Speaker 3: get me wrong. It's still, you know, kind of an
18:41
Speaker 3: act of rebellion. But I'm what he predicts, my husband's
18:46
Speaker 3: friend is that it's going to become like Dubai. And
18:48
Speaker 3: in other words, they're gonna have to loosen the grip
18:50
Speaker 3: on women. They're gonna have to give in a little
18:53
Speaker 3: bit on this iron fist of theocracy if they want
18:57
Speaker 3: to survive in any way, shape or form. So I
19:00
Speaker 3: think that the next most reasonable step is a similar
19:03
Speaker 3: situation to Dubai or you know how Lebanon used to
19:07
Speaker 3: be with you know, better fashion, a little bit more
19:10
Speaker 3: skin showing, hair showing. If this regime wants to survive.
19:15
Speaker 1: At all, it is a doctor Sheila and Azerian go
19:18
Speaker 1: and follow her everywhere. She's an amazing follow I'm a
19:20
Speaker 1: contributor on news Max, so I'm glad you're doing more
19:22
Speaker 1: Newsmax lately. I think that's awesome. And to put you
19:25
Speaker 1: next to a general I think is actually very good
19:26
Speaker 1: because you're extremely smart, and then they're very strategic. I
19:29
Speaker 1: think that's a very smart thing for them to do.
19:30
Speaker 1: Can you explain the Mek. I've got a guide that
19:33
Speaker 1: I put on my show from the Mek and I
19:35
Speaker 1: didn't know much about it, and he went on and
19:37
Speaker 1: on and on about how they were the anti revolutionaries
19:39
Speaker 1: and they were the people going to save Iran. And
19:41
Speaker 1: then when I did a little study afterwards, it turns
19:43
Speaker 1: out it's not a very good group. I mean, this
19:45
Speaker 1: is a group of people that would that would like
19:47
Speaker 1: to make it completely, you know, whacked out country if
19:50
Speaker 1: they were to get controlled. So if the theocracy were
19:52
Speaker 1: pushed out, it would be a fight between good and evil,
19:55
Speaker 1: and evil would look like the MEK. Do I have
19:57
Speaker 1: it right now?
19:58
Speaker 3: So they member how I told you, Joe, how there
20:01
Speaker 3: was the Marxist Communists on the college campuses that were
20:04
Speaker 3: joining hands with the Islamists. The Marxist Communist Islamists are
20:09
Speaker 3: the MEK. So they were the ones that when the
20:12
Speaker 3: Iatola came into power, he started killing them. So the
20:15
Speaker 3: majority of them were killed or exiled. And they do
20:20
Speaker 3: tons of fundraising in Europe and in America. They have
20:23
Speaker 3: tons of money, and they also have a lot of
20:27
Speaker 3: our politicians here in America and in Europe on their payroll,
20:31
Speaker 3: you know, under the pretenses of you're a speaker for us,
20:33
Speaker 3: So they're paying a lot of our politicians to go
20:35
Speaker 3: speak at their conferences. So then I wrong themselves. No
20:39
Speaker 3: one wants them, k Like the MK and the Islamists
20:42
Speaker 3: were the ones who overthrew the SHAW. It's like having
20:46
Speaker 3: Antifa take over your country. So literally no one wants
20:51
Speaker 3: the Mek period, end of story. And whenever we see them,
20:55
Speaker 3: you know, kind of sneak their way onto you know,
20:57
Speaker 3: any of the news channels, we reach out to whoever
20:59
Speaker 3: we know.
21:00
Speaker 2: We're like no, no, yeah.
21:01
Speaker 1: No, they made it on my show for sure. But
21:03
Speaker 1: then I learned more about it, and I've been very
21:05
Speaker 1: vocal about it ever since. So in other words, they
21:07
Speaker 1: the propaganda they're putting out that they're the freedom and
21:10
Speaker 1: liberty people, that's just a lie. It's not true.
21:12
Speaker 3: Correct, yeah, correct, they're they're the Islamists Marxit.
21:15
Speaker 1: You know they're doing that right, yes.
21:17
Speaker 2: Of course.
21:18
Speaker 3: And actually, just to give you an idea, they were
21:20
Speaker 3: on a terrorist list of America until like I think
21:23
Speaker 3: it was two thousand and nine, were on the actual
21:25
Speaker 3: terrorist list, and when Iraq attacked Iran, they sided with
21:31
Speaker 3: Saddam Hussein. So these are not yeah, these are not
21:35
Speaker 3: and nobody wants these people in power, and you know,
21:38
Speaker 3: they're not the answer. They're actually the part of the
21:40
Speaker 3: problem that led us to this place forty seven years ago.
21:43
Speaker 1: Doctor Shila Nazarian. I appreciate the time and the access.
21:46
Speaker 1: I want to go here before we end today, and
21:48
Speaker 1: thank you so much for making time and how busy
21:50
Speaker 1: you are. And again we'll talk about the eyelids at
21:51
Speaker 1: some point after nine to eleven. The city where I'm from,
21:55
Speaker 1: Metro New York. Originally we went there, probably nineteen ninety eight.
21:59
Speaker 1: Just unbelievable majesty of these buildings, this beautiful place in
22:03
Speaker 1: Lower Manhattan. I can't believe what happened twenty five years later.
22:07
Speaker 1: We've got a guy who's the mayor of New York
22:09
Speaker 1: who literally religiously believes the same as the theocracy in Iran.
22:13
Speaker 1: He is that kind of Muslim, is Zoram Amdani. Many
22:16
Speaker 1: people don't know that, but he is absolutely on board
22:19
Speaker 1: with them. He somehows running the city. We set on
22:21
Speaker 1: nine to twelve. We will never forget we set on
22:24
Speaker 1: nine to twelve. We will make sure that we come
22:25
Speaker 1: back stronger and better than ever. And now we see
22:28
Speaker 1: what's going on in New York. It's a mess, and
22:30
Speaker 1: it's being run by a guy who doesn't like us.
22:32
Speaker 1: I bring that up because after October seventh, one would
22:35
Speaker 1: think that everybody would say, we love the Jews, we
22:38
Speaker 1: love Israel. You know, I'm a Christian guy. My grandfather
22:42
Speaker 1: taught me growing up that that is the promised land
22:44
Speaker 1: to those people who were chosen to go there. And
22:46
Speaker 1: that's why in pro Israel. I don't need to be
22:48
Speaker 1: pro everything Benjamin Netanyaho does. But I'm certainly pro that place,
22:51
Speaker 1: that little slipper of land belongs to the Jews. That
22:53
Speaker 1: shouldn't be controversial after October seventh, somehow, just like we
22:58
Speaker 1: started feeling like Muslims were the victim after nine to eleven,
23:00
Speaker 1: which is crazy to me, we're now looking at the
23:02
Speaker 1: Jews like the bad guys after October seventh, Shila, how
23:05
Speaker 1: does that happen? And I know that you're not a
23:07
Speaker 1: brain surgeon and you're not a you know, you're not
23:09
Speaker 1: somebody who's a psychiatrist, but well, there you go. Maybe
23:13
Speaker 1: he can help you with this what part of our
23:14
Speaker 1: brain tells us, Let's make the bad guys the good guys.
23:17
Speaker 1: Let's make the good guys the bad guys. And somehow
23:19
Speaker 1: that works for half of the population.
23:22
Speaker 3: Well it's propaganda, you know. And those of us who
23:24
Speaker 3: grew up in Iran understand propaganda coming you know, growing
23:28
Speaker 3: up in America, you trust the news, You trust what
23:31
Speaker 3: your professors tell you in college. I have a friend
23:33
Speaker 3: who escaped North Korea and she attended Columbia University, and
23:38
Speaker 3: she said, I can't believe the professors at Columbia are
23:40
Speaker 3: teaching me the same things my professors in North Korea
23:43
Speaker 3: were teaching me. So this all DEI oppressed versus a presser.
23:47
Speaker 3: And by the way, Joe, I went, I was at
23:48
Speaker 3: Albert Einstein, you know, I was watching live not too
23:53
Speaker 3: far away in the Bronx the second Tower get hit.
23:56
Speaker 2: Wow, lost friends.
23:58
Speaker 3: I went to Columbia University, so you know, I knew
24:01
Speaker 3: a lot of people that worked in that building and
24:04
Speaker 3: really really affected me, and I certainly will never forget.
24:07
Speaker 3: But it brings me to a sermon I actually gave
24:10
Speaker 3: at one of our Jewish holidays and temple where you know,
24:13
Speaker 3: I don't know if you know, but the Passover story.
24:16
Speaker 3: Every year, whenever it's Passover, we have to tell the
24:19
Speaker 3: story to the young people. We actually make the young
24:22
Speaker 3: people tell the story every year, Joe.
24:25
Speaker 2: We tell the story over and over again.
24:28
Speaker 3: And I never really understood, like why do we have
24:30
Speaker 3: to tell the story every year? This is so Banel
24:34
Speaker 3: and I realized when Zora Mamdani got elected, this is
24:39
Speaker 3: why we tell the story every year, so that we
24:41
Speaker 3: never forget. And if we you know, don't tell the story, Joe,
24:45
Speaker 3: If you don't tell the story every year to every
24:47
Speaker 3: young person in that city. If we don't tell the
24:50
Speaker 3: story of America, if we don't tell the story of
24:52
Speaker 3: nine to eleven every year to every young person, we
24:55
Speaker 3: know we've created a vacuum for somebody else to fill
24:58
Speaker 3: it with another narrative and another story. And that's exactly
25:01
Speaker 3: what happened in New York.
25:03
Speaker 1: Well, it's exactly right.
25:04
Speaker 3: Now.
25:04
Speaker 1: I'm not Jewish, but the passover stories, the oil lasting
25:07
Speaker 1: way longer than it should have right now, that's Hanka.
25:09
Speaker 2: The Passover stories won't be escaped from.
25:11
Speaker 1: Barry, exactly right. Yeah, I grew from New York. I
25:14
Speaker 1: grew up in South Florida. My best friends were Jewish.
25:16
Speaker 1: I should have known that. I think I got them
25:17
Speaker 1: confused that said, we're not telling the nine to eleven story.
25:20
Speaker 1: You're right, I think. Two years later the network newscast
25:24
Speaker 1: were saying, we're not going to show the buildings coming
25:25
Speaker 1: down anymore. It's too horrific. Shut up. Show the buildings
25:28
Speaker 1: coming down, Show the people jumping to their death hoping
25:31
Speaker 1: they could survive. Show exactly how we were traumatized that day,
25:35
Speaker 1: attacked that day, Sheila, we've got a guy who's running
25:38
Speaker 1: New York City. And don't get me wrong, I've got
25:40
Speaker 1: cousins that for some reason are Muslim. I love them.
25:42
Speaker 1: I've got friends that are Muslim that are very peaceful.
25:44
Speaker 1: This isn't about me going after anybody who believes this
25:47
Speaker 1: differently than you and I do. But you've got a
25:49
Speaker 1: mayor who went to the podium two or three weeks
25:52
Speaker 1: ago and said, like the prophet Muhammad taught us. I
25:55
Speaker 1: was like what then he said, like in shallah, I'm like,
25:58
Speaker 1: what are you doing? So looking at it? And there
26:01
Speaker 1: is not just a just some regular Muslim guy from Uganda.
26:04
Speaker 1: This is I'm going to start using the words to
26:07
Speaker 1: get you used to it. I'm going to start acting
26:09
Speaker 1: this way to get you used to it. I'm going
26:11
Speaker 1: to start saying these things and even with my hands
26:13
Speaker 1: to get you used to it. I mean, that's really
26:15
Speaker 1: when you're talking about in doctrination is not just what
26:17
Speaker 1: people say. It's seeing what they do and normalizing it.
26:21
Speaker 1: Is it not?
26:22
Speaker 2: Well?
26:23
Speaker 3: Yes, that and also you know the leftists have a
26:27
Speaker 3: real anti Semitism problem, and they have a love for
26:33
Speaker 3: Islam and they view it as the religion of peace,
26:35
Speaker 3: which you know, how did they take over fifty two
26:38
Speaker 3: countries by asking nicely like those of us are not peacefully.
26:43
Speaker 3: And you know, I've read the Quran multiple times. I
26:46
Speaker 3: actually was very close to a minor in Islam. At
26:48
Speaker 3: Columbia University. I took so many Islam classes because I
26:52
Speaker 3: wanted to know why my family had to escape Iran.
26:54
Speaker 2: I've read that book. It's not peaceful.
26:56
Speaker 3: Okay, so it's it's it's again, yes, it's normalizing. But
27:01
Speaker 3: the left like that's so darling, like, oh, multiculturalism, this
27:06
Speaker 3: is so like if we allow this and we accept it,
27:09
Speaker 3: we're so accepting, we're moral superior to other people. And again,
27:13
Speaker 3: this is exactly what happened in Iran. These revolutions and
27:18
Speaker 3: takeovers of different countries don't happen today with the sword.
27:23
Speaker 2: They happen in.
27:24
Speaker 3: Flowery words like equity, like inclusion, like diversity, and then
27:29
Speaker 3: before you know it, there's people doing mass prayers in
27:32
Speaker 3: Times Square or in front of little girls Jewish schools
27:37
Speaker 3: grown when you know, prostrating themselves as an act of dominance,
27:43
Speaker 3: as an act of power. And we sow in Iran,
27:47
Speaker 3: we sow it in Elebanon, we're seeing it in Europe,
27:49
Speaker 3: and we're ten years behind Europe unless we unless we
27:52
Speaker 3: do something.
27:53
Speaker 1: And hopefully we'll do something. We still have a very
27:55
Speaker 1: strong side that's saying no, no, we believe in Western culture.
27:57
Speaker 1: We believe in America. First, let me finish with this.
28:00
Speaker 1: How is it that people have been convinced? And I'll
28:02
Speaker 1: go through the list, Candes Sowings. You've got people like
28:04
Speaker 1: Tucker Carlson. There are people very loud voices, this Nick
28:08
Speaker 1: Fuentes guy, who I think is just a nutshub. But
28:10
Speaker 1: these people have audiences and people are listening to them
28:14
Speaker 1: when they convince them that people from a small strip
28:17
Speaker 1: of land in the middle of the Middle East somehow
28:20
Speaker 1: control the world. How is it that they've made the
28:23
Speaker 1: Jews in Israel specifically, and I guess by extension the diaspora,
28:28
Speaker 1: or how are you saying, how is it that they've
28:30
Speaker 1: made them be evil on earth that controls every thought
28:33
Speaker 1: that we have, Everything that happens, everything's a false flag,
28:35
Speaker 1: everything's caused by the Jews. The Jews killed Charlie Kirk, Sheila.
28:38
Speaker 1: How does anybody believe that I'm just a common sense, normal,
28:41
Speaker 1: not nuts logical guy and I would never fall for
28:44
Speaker 1: that crap. If you don't show me some evidence. How
28:46
Speaker 1: is it that so many millions and I mean it's
28:48
Speaker 1: tons of millions of people believe this crap.
28:51
Speaker 3: Well, I think it's propaganda. I think it's blood libel,
28:55
Speaker 3: meaning you know, the Jews are what fifteen million people
28:58
Speaker 3: in the whole world, right, so there's there were.
29:01
Speaker 2: A huge minority.
29:02
Speaker 3: We're a very successful minority, and it's basically due to
29:05
Speaker 3: the way that we're raised. You know, just the act
29:07
Speaker 3: of having a bar or bought mitzvah, having to study
29:11
Speaker 3: a different language for years in order to stand in
29:14
Speaker 3: front of your community hundreds of people and give a
29:17
Speaker 3: speech at the age of thirteen. You know, it really
29:20
Speaker 3: trains you for life. And so you know, family Shabbat
29:24
Speaker 3: every Friday. It's basically like having Thanksgiving dinner every single
29:27
Speaker 3: week with your family, where you discuss and you you know,
29:30
Speaker 3: you you argue. There's a lot of things culturally that
29:32
Speaker 3: anyone can repeat, anyone can bring into their their their
29:35
Speaker 3: families and their and their schedule. It's not a secret.
29:38
Speaker 3: It's out there for everyone to borrow or use. And
29:42
Speaker 3: so these things sort of lead us to be successful.
29:45
Speaker 3: But we're minority and therefore easy to pick on. And
29:48
Speaker 3: so anybody who has any problem in their life. Rather
29:51
Speaker 3: than looking inward and saying, how can I improve my life?
29:54
Speaker 3: What did I do wrong? What can I correct? How
29:56
Speaker 3: can I make it better? They'd rather say, oh, it's
29:59
Speaker 3: somebody else's fault.
30:00
Speaker 1: Is it envy? Because it must be. But listen, you're
30:05
Speaker 1: unbelievably successful. If I wanted to be a plastic surgeon,
30:08
Speaker 1: I would want to learn from you. I wouldn't want
30:10
Speaker 1: to hate you because you did it. I'm very successful
30:12
Speaker 1: thirty seven years in this business. If somebody learns how
30:15
Speaker 1: to they want to learn to talk into a microphone
30:17
Speaker 1: and how to pronounce diaspora, they should probably come to
30:20
Speaker 1: me and say, how'd you do that? They shouldn't say
30:22
Speaker 1: I hate that he's successful. I hate that he has
30:24
Speaker 1: a car that I don't have. I hate that he
30:25
Speaker 1: has a house, that she has a house. Whatever. How
30:27
Speaker 1: do we convince people to stop hating those who are successful?
30:30
Speaker 1: Because what you just said, I have never in my
30:32
Speaker 1: life heard anybody else say you're right, you're raised to
30:35
Speaker 1: be successful. She'll is nothing wrong with that? Is everything
30:38
Speaker 1: right with that? Why can't we learn from that?
30:41
Speaker 3: Jo? But right now, think about it. Does anybody say oh,
30:44
Speaker 3: that person's so successful. No, they're taught to say that
30:46
Speaker 3: person's privileged.
30:48
Speaker 1: Wow.
30:48
Speaker 3: So I came to this country with nothing on the
30:50
Speaker 3: back of a pickup truck, zero money, zero connections. Everything
30:55
Speaker 3: I've earned I earned myself. You know, in the past,
30:57
Speaker 3: you would have said, oh, my god, you're female, you're
30:59
Speaker 3: an immig you didn't even speak English. You came here
31:02
Speaker 3: with nothing, and look at where you've become. That's the
31:04
Speaker 3: American dream. But no, now it's oh, you're showing your privilege.
31:08
Speaker 3: I mean, can you believe so. Yes, you're looking to
31:11
Speaker 3: get culturally back to a point where we look at
31:14
Speaker 3: successful people and we say, how do I do that?
31:16
Speaker 3: Rather than oh, that person is at that ferens privileged,
31:19
Speaker 3: or that person's rich because they stole the money from
31:22
Speaker 3: somebody else, rather than oh, they created jobs, they created wealth,
31:27
Speaker 3: they created a service that other people wanted.
31:29
Speaker 2: So that's that.
31:30
Speaker 3: But I also want to get back to your whole
31:31
Speaker 3: canvae Owens, Tucker Carlson, Megan Kelly kind of situation. You know,
31:35
Speaker 3: I used to think Katar was paying them, or that
31:38
Speaker 3: they were at least making clicks, because when you shit
31:41
Speaker 3: on Jews, you know, you get a lot of clicks.
31:44
Speaker 3: And now they're not getting paid by Fox, they're not
31:46
Speaker 3: hired by someone.
31:47
Speaker 2: They're on their own. So the more clicks that they
31:49
Speaker 2: can get, the more money they make.
31:51
Speaker 3: Right. But after the whole the Southern Poverty Law Center
31:54
Speaker 3: situation where we saw that they were actually paying the KKK,
31:58
Speaker 3: and now we saw that one of them was actually
32:01
Speaker 3: dating a clan member and they were living together and
32:04
Speaker 3: finaled one point two million dollars between the two of them.
32:07
Speaker 3: So now that I saw that, I was like, oh
32:09
Speaker 3: my god, I think the left is paying them. I
32:13
Speaker 3: think the Democrats are paying somehow. We'll figure it out soon, Joe.
32:18
Speaker 3: But after that, I was like, oh my god, it's
32:19
Speaker 3: not Catar, it's the left because if they say crazy things,
32:23
Speaker 3: the left can say, look at how crazy the right
32:25
Speaker 3: wing lunatics are vote for us.
32:28
Speaker 2: So there's some sort of incentive.
32:32
Speaker 3: Structure happening, whether it's with people who hate America or
32:36
Speaker 3: people who want you to vote a certain way. But
32:38
Speaker 3: none of this is real. You know, you look at
32:41
Speaker 3: chinks Twitter. Every post says is relanant, every post says
32:46
Speaker 3: you and it Why are you so obsessed with fifteen
32:48
Speaker 3: million people on this old planet? Why Because it gets engagement,
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Speaker 3: it gets flicks, and he makes money.
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Speaker 1: Listen, you said something in this interview that I hadn't
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Speaker 1: heard before, and it's about the upbringing of the Jewish
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Speaker 1: chef family. And I think that was a big, big
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Speaker 1: time thing. That's a wake up call for people watching.
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Speaker 1: I need to know before we go. Did you win
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Speaker 1: the fourth grade race for the class presidency? Come on,
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Speaker 1: free ice cream didn't get you in? Come on?
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Speaker 3: Will inherit the earth Right? I got a delicious gratification
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Speaker 3: on your success.
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Speaker 1: Well, listen, thank you so much for making time, Thanks
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Speaker 1: for your friendship, Thanks for your loud voice for freedom,
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Speaker 1: for liberty, and for the people of not only in
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Speaker 1: the United States of America, but of course of Iran
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Speaker 1: as well. It's doctor SCHILINZERI and follow her everywhere. I
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Speaker 1: appreciate the time. Doc. Good to see you.
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Speaker 2: Thanks, Joe, good to see you.
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