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JFK ASSASSINATION - EP. 327 - Friday Freak Off · The Lone Gunman Podcast : JFK Assassination

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  Speaker 1: Well, I don't know what he's up to.
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  Speaker 2: It's picking me like chicken, shocking me like con sting
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  Speaker 2: me like an ice.
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  Speaker 3: As the first step toward restoring transparency and accountability to
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  Speaker 3: classification of government documents, and in the coming days, we
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  Speaker 3: are going to make public remaining records relating to the
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  Speaker 3: assassinations of.
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  Speaker 4: President John F.
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  Speaker 3: Kennedy, his brother Robert Kennedy, as well as doctor Martin
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  Speaker 3: Luther King Junior, and other topics of great public.
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  Speaker 5: And he is that to me, to me, show Ben
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  Speaker 5: and job job, job, and it's Ben, show me.
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  Speaker 6: A second, sellom show kill.
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  Speaker 1: We Well, this should be fun.
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  Speaker 4: So here we go. All right, folks, get out your
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  Speaker 4: baby oil. Long second, I mean, get lathered up here,
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  Speaker 4: real good. Okay, what's up everybody? Welcome to the show.
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  Speaker 4: This is episode number three d and twenty seven, the
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  Speaker 4: first ever Friday freak off for the Lone Guming Podcast.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah that's right, you heard me right, it's a Friday
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  Speaker 4: freak off. It's this crazy idea for ah that we
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  Speaker 4: had since a lot of our lovely and dear supporters
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  Speaker 4: and listeners have wanted to actually come on the show
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  Speaker 4: and you know, be on the show. So I figured
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  Speaker 4: it'd be a good idea to do that and kind
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  Speaker 4: of tie it in with a bunch of surprise guests,
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  Speaker 4: some of my favorite people in the world, former past guests,
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  Speaker 4: big swinging d's in the research community. You may have
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  Speaker 4: heard it of some people you haven't heard from in
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  Speaker 4: a while. So, and of course it's off with the
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  Speaker 4: bang because Joe, the last time I checked, our green
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  Speaker 4: room is empty, empty, sir, But don't fret. Hopefully people
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  Speaker 4: will be spilling in here shortly. If not, we need
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  Speaker 4: to figure out why not, because I know, I know
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  Speaker 4: Larry had some problems right when he was trying to
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  Speaker 4: get on here, but I have not seen any distress calls,
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  Speaker 4: either through messenger or email yet. So the first two
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  Speaker 4: folks we had lined up for you have not entered
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  Speaker 4: the studio yet. But until they do, Joe, if you
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  Speaker 4: could welcome the folks.
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  Speaker 1: In the chat in so far, let's do it and
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  Speaker 1: Happy Friday. Yeah, this was a random idea and we'll
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  Speaker 1: see how it works out and maybe there will be
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  Speaker 1: a future free cough. So and Scott Edwards correctly identified
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  Speaker 1: that David Ferry was indeed the one who invented the
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  Speaker 1: free cough, that would.
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  Speaker 4: Make a great T shirt. Idea Fairies freak all Friday
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  Speaker 4: with David Fairry and some baby oil.
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  Speaker 1: That would be good. That would be good. That in
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  Speaker 1: the free Ruby shirt. Yes, Hello, Trey, Hello, Zender sixty one,
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  Speaker 1: Claude Williams and and U Deene. Of course Trey, Colleen,
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  Speaker 1: how are you man?
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  Speaker 4: Hello Colleen.
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  Speaker 1: David Ferry freak Off would be an STD factory chances.
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  Speaker 1: This episode gets demondazed. Hold on, Joe, Oh we got something?
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  Speaker 4: Oh we got people have entered the chat.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, yes we do.
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  Speaker 4: So let's bring on our two first guests. Joe you
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  Speaker 4: ready for this?
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  Speaker 1: I am ready.
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  Speaker 4: We have first one of our favorite people because he's
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  Speaker 4: a show sponsor, and not only that, we love his
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  Speaker 1: What's up?
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  Speaker 3: Joe?
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  Speaker 1: How are you sir? I'm doing well.
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  Speaker 4: Thank you. Welcome into the show, Jeff. This is unbelievable.
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  Speaker 7: I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: Jeff is the owner and lead bottle stuffer at Silk
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I just watched your YouTube video. Did you make
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  Speaker 1: your YouTube recently?
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  Speaker 4: I did?
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  Speaker 8: I mean I did like three hours ago.
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  Speaker 1: Wow?
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  Speaker 8: I mean the channel. The channels have been around for
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  Speaker 8: a long time, but today I decided get I'm going
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  Speaker 4: I love it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you explained how you make it and how you
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  Speaker 1: always thought you were in New Jersey. I didn't realize
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  Speaker 1: it was Vermont.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: Well, I guess that's the thing.
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  Speaker 4: I guess.
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  Speaker 1: First off, I'll just sort of like put it out.
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  Speaker 4: That's commercial right from the get go.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: One hundred percent.
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  Speaker 4: I'm from New Jersey. From Jersey.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, my head, my mother and father, I mean my
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  Speaker 8: mother and father from New Jersey. I grew up in
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  Speaker 8: New Jersey and I left New Jersey. I love Jersey,
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  Speaker 8: but I left Jersey like twenty five years ago. And
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  Speaker 8: when I came up with the name for the brand,
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  Speaker 8: I wanted to honor my mother and father, so I
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  Speaker 8: named it Silk City after the town where they grew up,
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  Speaker 8: which is which is Patterson.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Super cool. I loved hearing that story and definitely
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  Speaker 1: go to Silk City as a YouTube channel had subscribed
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  Speaker 1: to hear more about that. But because you were a sponsor, Jeff,
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  Speaker 1: you were going to be on with a very big
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  Speaker 1: deal in the JFT community, and I think.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, you ready for this, Jeff Who I'll sit back
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  Speaker 4: and listen.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, that's what I'm here for.
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  Speaker 4: All right now. Entering the show someone who's never been
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  Speaker 4: on this show before, but he's a big swing and
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  Speaker 4: d in the research community. You may have heard of
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  Speaker 4: him before. He's a proprietor over at the aa RC,
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  Speaker 4: among other things, author of the Devil Is in the Details.
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  Speaker 4: That is, mister Alan Dale is entering the show. What's up, Alan, Hello,
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  Speaker 4: dear brother. Happy to be with you.
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  Speaker 2: Appreciate the courtesy.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, sir, well, we thank you so much for joining
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  Speaker 4: us this evening and popping in. And yeah, we're gonna
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  Speaker 4: have to get you on for a full length show
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  Speaker 4: before too long and talk to you Alan Stee.
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  Speaker 2: We'll see how the dust settles over the next fifteen days.
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  Speaker 2: And we're fourteen now, in the next forty five days,
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  Speaker 2: and I suspect that there will not be a great
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  Speaker 2: deal more to address at that point than we have
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  Speaker 2: available to us today.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. I wanted to ask you about that because I
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  Speaker 4: got an email that you sent out to you know,
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  Speaker 4: and I stuck you on there. I thought you should
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  Speaker 4: be hip to that.
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  Speaker 10: I thought that was good big swing d in this,
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  Speaker 10: in this, in this industry as well, I think anyway,
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  Speaker 10: but if you could just let everybody know the.
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  Speaker 4: Kind of it was kind of a papooing email, you know,
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  Speaker 4: and I get it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we have to have a balanced approach to this,
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  Speaker 2: because you'll notice there are people virulent people on opposite extremes.
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  Speaker 2: That's always a waste of our time. So you should focus,
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  Speaker 2: I think, upon whatever positive attributes you can gain from
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  Speaker 2: being cautious before reacting inappropriately. You'll notice that what Professor
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  Speaker 2: Scott Refers, who is the governing media, sought out resurrected
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  Speaker 2: effing Gerald Posner to help interpret these complexities to us
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  Speaker 2: poor peasants. I thought that was about as vulgar as
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  Speaker 2: anything I've encountered in the last few minutes. And the
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  Speaker 2: point to be made about my friend Greg Parker's assessment
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  Speaker 2: is that's not for just anybody. I mean, the first
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  Speaker 2: thing we have to acknowledge, I think, is that this
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  Speaker 2: orange person who has found his way Grover Cleveland Escale
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  Speaker 2: back to temporary occupancy of the White House is the
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  Speaker 2: person who is doing something that we would have sought
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  Speaker 2: that we would have wanted anybody to have done among
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  Speaker 2: his predecessors, and not exclusively limited to the period between
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  Speaker 2: the sunset clause of the nineteen ninety two President John F.
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  Speaker 2: Kennedy Assassination Records Collection Act, which required, by law, without
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  Speaker 2: presidential intervention, that the remaining documents would be released after
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  Speaker 2: twenty five years. That was October of twenty seventeen. Republican administration.
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  Speaker 2: The temporary occupant of the White House changed his mind
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  Speaker 2: abruptly was persuaded that the can should be kicked further
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  Speaker 2: down the road, because I'm sure we can all agree
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  Speaker 2: twenty five years isn't nearly enough. That's not enough time
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  Speaker 2: to ponder the relevance and the value and the potential
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  Speaker 2: risks associated with whatever is included in a very defined
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  Speaker 2: set of materials based upon a previous era's parameters. A
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  Speaker 2: previous era produced the differentiation between assassination related and not
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  Speaker 2: believed relevant innbr A different era would produce a different differentiation.
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  Speaker 2: But we have what we have to contend with, six
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  Speaker 2: million pages probably released. Most of the people, well, I
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  Speaker 2: shouldn't say it that way. Many people have chosen not
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  Speaker 2: to delve very deeply and it's an unfamiliar realm. It's
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  Speaker 2: an ocean and to itself. There are lots of reasons
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  Speaker 2: that a person might be inhibited understandably about without a guide.
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  Speaker 2: I've been extraordinarily privileged because I've worked in service to
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  Speaker 2: some of our most serious and ultimate military intelligence veterans
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  Speaker 2: who have taken this issue to heart and pursue very
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  Speaker 2: methodically and very sincerely lines of inquiry that professionals might pursue.
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  Speaker 2: There's a difference between professionals and hobbyists, and so for
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  Speaker 2: people who are not deeply immersed in the complexities differentiating
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  Speaker 2: between key elements within the let's just refer to a
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  Speaker 2: familiar realm, at least categorically. The idea that within the
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  Speaker 2: interior of the agency there's a great deal of complexity.
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  Speaker 3: And.
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  Speaker 2: They're competing spy agencies during the Cold War, and that
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  Speaker 2: is an international phenomenon, and it's also true in relation
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  Speaker 2: to the FBI and the CIA. It's also true in
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  Speaker 2: relation to the individual aspirations ambitions of people management authorities
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  Speaker 2: within all of these intelligence agencies. I happened to be
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  Speaker 2: sufficiently knowledgeable to refer to particular conflicts, personal conflicts that
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  Speaker 2: had professional consequences in major places within various intelligence agencies,
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  Speaker 2: including the first chief directorates of the KGB Soviet Union
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  Speaker 2: during our period of interest, and obviously within five six
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  Speaker 2: and especially inside the agency intra agency squabbles and inter
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  Speaker 2: agency squabbles, especially notable between the ultimate hierarchy of the
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  Speaker 2: FBI and particular management authorities within the CIA. And once
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  Speaker 2: you enter the once you introduce the Oswald figure into
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  Speaker 2: all of this complexity, boy, you better strap yourself in
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  Speaker 2: because nothing, nothing follows a standard protocol. Nothing for a
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  Speaker 2: period of four years, every time the Oswald figure is
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  Speaker 2: introduced into the documentary record, there's some ft upness, if
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  Speaker 2: you know what I mean. And so what we have
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  Speaker 2: to acknowledge is that without knowing any part of any
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  Speaker 2: of what I just alluded to, this guy who is
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  Speaker 2: back Grover Cleveland esque Lee.
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  Speaker 1: To be.
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  Speaker 2: Re anointed, has done the thing that not only not
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  Speaker 2: no previous president who might have chosen not to intervene
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  Speaker 2: so that the process would unfold in the manner that
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  Speaker 2: it was intended. But what about the fact that there
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  Speaker 2: was no discernible It's not being too critical, it's not
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  Speaker 2: being overly negative to point out that there was no difference.
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  Speaker 2: It mattered not at all, not at all, whether a
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  Speaker 2: Republican or a Democrat was in that position. Once the
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  Speaker 2: full court press went in saying you must not release
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  Speaker 2: some of this stuff. And so today my friend Robert F.
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  Speaker 2: Kennedy Junior asked the inevitable question, why why have they
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  Speaker 2: been so reluctant to release the remaining materials? And you might,
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  Speaker 2: you know, just as a participant in American popular culture,
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  Speaker 2: what about this subject warrants the imposition of some I'll
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  Speaker 2: be cautious in terms of, you know, the context of
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  Speaker 2: my remarks, but someone that I think who's intellectual and
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  Speaker 2: academic and other integrities are legitimately questionable in terms of
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  Speaker 2: Gerald Posner being brought out of mothballs to stand in
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  Speaker 2: front of the American public and say, well, you know,
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  Speaker 2: it's not a big deal after all. So we want
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  Speaker 2: to be balanced, We want to say thanks for doing
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  Speaker 2: more than nothing, and we also want to be critical
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  Speaker 2: and not dance around in an in zone prematurely.
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  Speaker 4: Now we hear Yellen, and we're gonna have to We're
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  Speaker 4: gonna have to say goodbye to our title sponsored Jeff
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  Speaker 4: from Silk City Hot Sauce. Jeff, Thanks for showing up
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  Speaker 4: real quick. Thanks for having me on guys, folksy your
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  Speaker 8: and UH it's It feels good to be part of
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  Speaker 8: the coolest crew on on YouTube. Oh yeah, congratulations on
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  Speaker 8: all the declassification. That was fucking nuts when I when
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  Speaker 8: I saw that first pop up on my phone yesterday morning,
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  Speaker 8: I was like, Wow, unbelievable. You guys were just talking
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  Speaker 8: about it on Wednesday night and Uh, here we are.
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  Speaker 8: But I'm gonna run. Let's do this again sometime.
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  Speaker 4: Hey buddy, Thanks Jeff, thank you. And I know Alan
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  Speaker 4: Dale loves some hot sauce, don't you, buddy.
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  Speaker 2: Oh there are lots of things I love that are hot.
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  Speaker 4: Women, hot cars, and Alan.
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  Speaker 1: This is Joe Rob's co host. We've never had a
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  Speaker 1: chance to formerly be introduced or talk, but I've been
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  Speaker 1: a big fan of your work for well for years,
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  Speaker 1: and thank you so much. Thank you for being such
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  Speaker 1: a great ambassador to this topic. That's so nice that
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  Speaker 1: we all love and we all obviously have a great interest.
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  Speaker 2: In well, if not love, that is certainly deeply affecting
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  Speaker 2: to us on levels that probably we mostly cannot be
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  Speaker 2: objective about. We are motivated. I'm in it obviously for
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  Speaker 2: the chicks and to make as much money as possible.
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  Speaker 4: But it's kind a treat for you, sir, But thank you, Joe.
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  Speaker 4: I appreciate your remarks very much, sincerely, speaking of hot chicks, Alan, Hi, Caroline.
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  Speaker 2: Hello Caroline, Hi, it's nice to meet you.
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  Speaker 4: She is the sweet Caroline from the beginning opening of
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  Speaker 4: the Quick Hits show that we do what that I
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  Speaker 4: do with Doug. She does our interim music over there.
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  Speaker 4: Nice listener of this show for since the beginning. What's
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  Speaker 4: that say? Trust the government?
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  Speaker 1: That is great?
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  Speaker 4: Hi, Caroline, hiding doing great. It's lovely to see your
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  Speaker 4: face here. Finally, for those out there listening, We've talked
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  Speaker 4: about Caroline on the show many many times. She's been
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  Speaker 4: a long time supporter since day one, and I wanted
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  Speaker 4: to reach out to her and get her on the
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  Speaker 4: show so everybody can say hi to Caroline, look at you, Alan.
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  Speaker 4: So let me ask you one more thing about this this, this,
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  Speaker 4: this executive order, because if I'm understanding it correctly, there
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  Speaker 4: are still some loopholes built into this executive order that
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  Speaker 4: could let them skate again. Is that right?
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  Speaker 2: Yes, that's absolutely correct. What we might ponder here is
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  Speaker 2: the fact that well, there's as always, there are levels
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  Speaker 2: and dimensions and great depths, and nothing is with very
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  Speaker 2: few exceptions, nothing is ever as is being represented. There's
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  Speaker 2: more to it than is represented to us in every
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  Speaker 2: conceivable manner. That's what Professor Scott teaches us in terms
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  Speaker 2: of understanding, being able to read the surface of anything
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  Speaker 2: with an understanding, an awareness that below the surface there
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  Speaker 2: are underlying continuities, and that there are alliances and things
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  Speaker 2: that might seem counterintuitive, things that challenge us. In terms
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: of we think we understand how things work. The truth
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: is almost never that it works the way we think
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  Speaker 2: it does. So with regard to Donald Trump, he has
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  Speaker 2: come along in terms of his political aspirations at a
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  Speaker 2: time where, in contrast to many of his competitors, at
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  Speaker 2: least in a field of also rans and you know,
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  Speaker 2: people not enormously distinguished in a number of different ways,
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  Speaker 2: who sought the kind of recognition that would allow them
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  Speaker 2: to have a name recognition, and so they were dependent upon,
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  Speaker 2: among other things, the Republican National Committee, because that's part
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  Speaker 2: of what the DNC and the RNC manage. They control
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  Speaker 2: who gets to rise to a particular level of stature
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  Speaker 2: so that they are possibly break through to the level of,
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  Speaker 2: you know, household name. Donald Trump didn't require that, and
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  Speaker 2: he could tell you know, he didn't have to participate
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  Speaker 2: in that. He already had a defined name, He had
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  Speaker 2: a product, He was a product, and he was in
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  Speaker 2: the entertainment industry, among other things, and he enjoyed probably
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  Speaker 2: all kinds of privileges as the result of his celebrities.
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  Speaker 2: So he didn't seek to redefine his or to introduce
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  Speaker 2: his product. His product being himself, he was able to
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  Speaker 2: just sort of redefine the product in a new context.
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  Speaker 2: And it may be, as has been suggested by people
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  Speaker 2: who are better informed than I, that he was about
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  Speaker 2: as surprised as everyone else when he was successful the
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  Speaker 2: first time. And now an awful lot has happened, and
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  Speaker 2: so he is still a guy who has as his background,
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  Speaker 2: he comes from a place that is outside of the
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  Speaker 2: mechanism by which we are governed. And you could if
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  Speaker 2: you wanted to, and it's fine with me if you don't,
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  Speaker 2: but you could think in terms of the whole political
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  Speaker 2: theater as being something very akin to professional wrestling, where
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  Speaker 2: people have defined roles and there are good guys and
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  Speaker 2: bad guys. But the guys who aren't on camera, the
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  Speaker 2: ones that are the charismatic figures, some of whom are
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  Speaker 2: really good at what they do. They're really good because
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  Speaker 2: what they do isn't easy. But they're not writing their
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  Speaker 2: own scripts, and they don't own the theater. Someone else does.
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  Speaker 2: So the whole talk about, you know, going back connecting tissue,
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  Speaker 2: what on Earth on January or January seventeenth of nineteen
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  Speaker 2: sixty one, What on Earth was General Dwight David Eisenhower
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  Speaker 2: referring to when he warned against the unwarranted influence either
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  Speaker 2: sought or unsought by the military industrial complex. Bobby Junior
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  Speaker 2: has added the word medical in there. He's also, you know,
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  Speaker 2: devoted significant parts of his life to fighting against agrochemical
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  Speaker 2: and the forces that represent forces like Dow Chemical and
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  Speaker 2: Monsanto and those things. Those have been his adversaries in
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  Speaker 2: his professional life when he could afford if he chose
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  Speaker 2: to to move to France and drive Lamborghinis every day. Instead,
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  Speaker 2: he's engaged these corporations in the courtrooms and prevailed in
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  Speaker 2: many instances. But what on earth do you think Dwight
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: Eisenhower was referring to. And the truth is hardly anybody
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: had any idea what he was talking about. So something
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: must be going on that is understood by people who
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: are a part of the mechanism, and not everybody thinks
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: it's great. And I think Donald Trump doesn't think it's great.
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: The extent to which he understands that there's stuff at work,
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: you know, that is wrong, That is fundamentally wrong, I
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: think is unquestionable. The problem arises when you've got these
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: currents below the surface that crash into each other. That
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: meteorologists or astronomers who study cloud cloud patterns and you know,
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: atmospheric dynamics on Jupiter and stuff like that, they'd say,
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: this makes no sense. We've got stuff under the surface
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: it's crashing into each other. That leaves us with a
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: bewilderment in a state of observed you know, chaotic mess.
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: How on Earth is it that Donald Trump is the
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: guy doing the thing that no Democrat would do? How
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: does that work? And so, you know, my thought ultimately
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: is we we should resist the tendency to be too
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: quick to be opinionated about this stuff as it unfolds.
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: Someone on the scene close to Donald Trump is the
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: conduit or is the a point of contact to facilitate
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: whatever his you know, plans are whatever. To initiate whatever
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: he wants to initiate, somebody has to be right next
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: to him to put it on paper and do something
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: so that it because he's signing his name, but someone
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: else is crafting the stuff. And whoever is doing that
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: isn't an outsider because no one from the outside would
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: know how to do that. So we have to wait
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: and see how does this unfold in terms of what
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: is being said about what's being done versus how will
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: it be facilitated? And I realize I'm being long winded,
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: but look, this is what you get. This can't be
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: surprising to you. You and I've been friends for a
• 25:34
  Speaker 2: long time. This isn't news.
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: I know you should have your own podcast or something, Alan.
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: I've got you know, I appreciate when you have said
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: to me innumerable times. That material is available at JFK
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: Conversations dot com, which is my original interview program. I'm
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: responsible for administration and content on the aa ARC Live
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: dot com website. My interview series is not necessarily concluded.
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: Occasionally I will do things at JFK Conversations dot com,
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: and for many years I've been responsible for administration and
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: content of doctor John Newman's website, which.
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: Is j.
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: J M n JMU dot com a different one for
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: strange reasons. But you know, the thing I guess I
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: wanted to just say to you about this moment is
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: regardless of what we will learn and what we will experience,
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: is this moment in this story unfolds during the next
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: two weeks, the next forty four days, and hereafter. The
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: truth is we're in the kind of place that we've
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: never been. All we've ever been is shut down in
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: relation to the federal government. You know, I could rattle
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: off the sequence. I've done it so many times about
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: Pike Committee, Edwards, Many Sentence, elect Committee on Intelligence Activities,
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: Rockefeller Commission, all precursors, ultimate precursors, or penultimate precursors to
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: the House elect Committee on assassinations where the team directed
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: to investigate the CIA and in particular the Oswald figure
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: in Mexico City. They got close. You hear me, they's
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: not close. They got close and they got turned the
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: f off because of the interventions, the obstruction, the subversion
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: by people like Scott Breckinridge and George Johannedes, for which
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: joan Edese was given a commendation because of a job
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: well done. It's a felony from the perspective of g
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: Robert Blake, if you know, talk about having the rug
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: pulled out from under you that many decades later, the
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: question is posed to mister Joanese by either Gayton Fonsi
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: or my dear brother Dan Hardway or Eddie Lopez. They say,
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: we want to talk to we want to identify, we
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: want to have the records associated with the point of contact.
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: Who was the case officer dealing with the revolutionary student
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: director at the DRE that had Wyckey hijinks that made television,
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: radio and newspaper coverage on the streets of New Orleans
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: with some guy named Lee Oswald, who was the CIA
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: officer handling the DRE, to which mister Joannedi says and
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: I quote, I'll look into that. That was in nineteen
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: seventy eight. In nineteen ninety nine, somewhere around there, my
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: dear brother Jeff Morley is poking around some recently released
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: materials and he comes upon the magic name. And the
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: next call he makes is to Professor g. Robert Blakey,
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: and he says, so, Bob, do you remember a guy
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: named George Johanides And Professor Blakey says, oh, yes, I
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: certainly he was the leison brought out of retirement to
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: kind of assist us. But he had no operational role,
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: that's for sure. And Jeff says, well, think again, Bob.
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: And so, I mean, that's a heck of a story.
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: It's worth retelling. It's on us. It's of the similar
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: stature to the ultimate encounter between Jeff. Did the Blessed
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: Thing created a sacred moment? He brought, of all people,
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: doctor John Newman into the room, into the home of
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: a lady named Jane Roman, during which doctor Newman asks
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: her why she is signing off on materials. She's a
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: senior laison desk officer working in counterintelligence staff, and in
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: the first week of October she's responding to of sixty three.
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: She's responding to routine inquiry from the Mexico City Station, saying, Hey,
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: there were some wacky hyjints at the Cuban Consulate and
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: Soviet Embassy involving some figure that we've identified as Lee Oswald.
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: What do we have on Lee Oswald? And she is
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: an authenticating officer, she's not the drafter. The draft was
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: made by a Western Hemisphere Division woman named Elsie Scalzetti
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: whose real name was Charlotte Busto's and Jane Roman, who
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: works for James Angleton. She puts her initials on it.
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: She's under Thomas Kara Messines, who works very closely with
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: Richard Hilmes, so we know who some of these people are.
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: She signs off on something that is false and misleading,
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: and thirty one years later, John Newman, thanks to Jeff Morley,
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: is in the room with Jane Roman in November second
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: or third of nineteen ninety four, and he says, what's
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: your what can you tell me? What's your take on this?
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: She says, and I quote, I'm signing off on something
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: that isn't true. Doctor Newman says, why she becomes defensive.
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: She says, well, I wasn't involved in any hanky panky,
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: And she alludes to special Affairs staff, which is where
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: Task Force W has become after William King Harvey has
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: gone and Desmond Fitzgerald takes over, you know, Cuban affairs staff.
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: And he says, I'm not saying there to be a
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: sinister explanation, but it's one thing if I say to
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: you you do not have a need to know. It's
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: another thing if I say here's some information in response
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: to your question, which I know is false and misleading.
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: So I guess the thing I'm asking you to address
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: head on here is does this indicate to you an
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: operational interest in the Oswald files? This is six weeks
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: prior to the assassination. And Jane Roman says, and I quote, yes,
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: to me, it indicates a keen interest held very closely
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: on the need to know basis. That's something worth understanding
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: and reflecting upon that moment.
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure. And to your point, Alan, I think
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: it's funny you brought up Joe and Ed's and of
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: course Trump signed the executive order. He's not going to
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: be responsible for implementing how it goes down, right, I'm
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: scared there's going to be another Joe and Edes type
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: control opposite. Maybe it's in the archives, someone of the archives.
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: Oh, I think it's You're a little behind the curve there, Joe.
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: I think that we have been subjected to this kind
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: of thing throughout the era where there was a lead up.
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: I even have a passage in my Malcolm Blunt book
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: which I appreciate Rob very much. I'm proud of that.
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: I think I had a great, great deal of participation
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: by extraordinary people to help me make that thing turn
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: out well. And it was a worthy subject in a
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: labor of love, because there's absolutely no one more knowledgeable
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: about the internal systems and management authorities of the competing
• 32:42
  Speaker 2: intelligence agencies and Malcolm Blunt, and so I'm very grateful.
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: But there's a passage there where we Malcolm produced an
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: internal document where a component of the agency is being
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: consulted by another officer within the agency about what on
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: earth does this mean? Because these are human beings and
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: not everybody is an evil mastermind, you know what I mean.
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: There are plenty of people who are just doing the
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: job the best they can. There was even an historical
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: review staff that was making a genuine effort in the
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: immediate aftermath of the JFKAK to try to produce materials
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: and seeking things from previous eras decades earlier, doing the
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: best they can, they get rug pulled out from under them,
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: and along the way, somebody was looking ahead. What does
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: the deadline in October twenty seventeen mean? And according to
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: the Interior people who are directing policy as it will
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: be relevant to what actually unfolds, the answer is more reviews,
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: Joe as of twenty seventeen, so not to worry, some releases,
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: but mainly more reviews. How many times did did the
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: review process get kicked down the road, you know, six
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: months at a time, until ultimately democratic administration, under the
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: under the protection of Friday evening on a four day
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: holiday weekend, quietly stipulate that the review process is concluded.
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: And that's what the Biden administration did about two years ago.
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: No more reviews were done releasing the stuff, so they
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: did not anticipate this Grover Cleveland esque return. I've said
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: it three times. That's the final time I'm going to
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: say it. But how often do you get to talk
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: about Grover Cleveland? Not very often on this show anyway.
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry for being the way I am, but I've
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: been very you know, I've been caffeined up for the
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: last several days, and I've had an awful lot of
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: conversations about this stuff. And my message is, let's be
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: cool and let's see what happens. And in the meantime,
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: some of us are engaged in trying to to possibly
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: influence a little bit of the perception of people who
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: are not necessarily familiar with the machinery by suggesting your
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: particular subject matter, particular areas of documentation that might not
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: be included within the defined records, because there's a ton
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: of what we know now that we didn't know at
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: any other time prior to now that would be relevant
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: to having a more complete, multi dimensional understanding of where
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: we are work in progress wise.
• 35:35
  Speaker 4: Well, Alan, excellent as always, sir. We appreciate you. Stop
• 35:38
  Speaker 4: and buy, and we'll have to have you back for
• 35:40
  Speaker 4: a full show and wind you up and let you go.
• 35:44
  Speaker 4: But thank you so much and sharing your insights and thoughts. Well,
• 35:49
  Speaker 4: it's always a pleasure, my friend.
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: It's my privilege. Grateful to you, to all of you
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: for fighting the proverbial good fight and all of what
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: that means because there are other things that all of
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: us could be doing that might be more profitable, and
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: that perhaps would be even more popular. But I think
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: we share in common since that something went terribly wrong,
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: and that this extraordinary man who found his way into
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: that extraordinary office at the time for two years, ten
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: months and two days acting as an obstruction to the
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: proverbial and inevitable forces which perpetuate war, and which were
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: gearing up for a surprise nuclear attack upon the Soviet Union,
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: People's Republic of China and the Russian satellite countries. After
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: two years, ten months and two days of it, they
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: threw him a parade. And I think we all feel
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: that that really stinks, and that we're suffering today by
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: living in a world that grew that is the result
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: the culmination of the consequences of that act.
• 37:01
  Speaker 4: Very stude, my good man. Well, like I said, Alan,
• 37:03
  Speaker 4: it's always a pleasure. You have a wonderful weekend, and
• 37:06
  Speaker 4: thank you so much for joining us to see my playfair.
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: Thanks for the invitation. God bless you hanging there, say
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: thank you? Yeah, take care?
• 37:17
  Speaker 4: Why that was interesting now that we all feel a
• 37:22
  Speaker 4: little bit dumber, uh oh man, I love it when
• 37:29
  Speaker 4: Alan Dale enters a chat, I'm like that, dude's a
• 37:31
  Speaker 4: boat like levels of he needs.
• 37:33
  Speaker 11: To write a lot of books.
• 37:34
  Speaker 12: He just needs to write books.
• 37:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I said that in Jess because I
• 37:40
  Speaker 4: know he did an interview show is what he calls it.
• 37:42
  Speaker 4: But it's a podcast. Uh, he just he just won't
• 37:45
  Speaker 4: admit he's got a fancy name for it. He was wonderful.
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: Wow, yeah he is.
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: Uh he is on the.
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: Yes, Roger wants to hear from Caroline. Are you not
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: too much?
• 38:01
  Speaker 13: I didn't know exactly what was happening today and if
• 38:04
  Speaker 13: we were just popping by to say hello, is it
• 38:06
  Speaker 13: the anniversary today or are you just doing a special podcast?
• 38:10
  Speaker 4: We're just doing a special podcast really right? Yeah? No, no, no,
• 38:17
  Speaker 4: no big reason right on?
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean we we could say that we plan
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: this as a release party, but we had planned this
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: before the files were released, so that one. But it
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: was another idea of one of our members who unfortunately
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: can't make it tonight.
• 38:37
  Speaker 11: But who is that?
• 38:38
  Speaker 13: Because Doug's missing, and then the guy that you normally
• 38:41
  Speaker 13: do the podcast with is not here either.
• 38:45
  Speaker 4: Who's that?
• 38:48
  Speaker 13: He doesn't look like the same guy that I see
• 38:52
  Speaker 13: you working with these days?
• 38:53
  Speaker 4: Are you shaves often? And his facial hair grows like
• 38:57
  Speaker 4: in a day.
• 38:58
  Speaker 13: Really, you're the same guy.
• 39:00
  Speaker 6: It's on the podcast all the time.
• 39:01
  Speaker 11: Now, I'm sorry, I feel embarrassed.
• 39:04
  Speaker 13: I obviously I watch and listen, but I listened to
• 39:07
  Speaker 13: it more than I watch it, right right right, Yeah,
• 39:10
  Speaker 13: I'm sorry.
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: It looked different to me.
• 39:12
  Speaker 4: I s twenty pounds over night, and there's Joe and
• 39:16
  Speaker 4: we'll lose twenty pounds and have a beard and the
• 39:19
  Speaker 4: just Joe.
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I did gain at least ten pounds this year, unfortunately,
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: so we're working that off.
• 39:24
  Speaker 13: But yeah, thank you for being a part of the
• 39:28
  Speaker 13: best podcast on the planet.
• 39:29
  Speaker 4: So well, thank you.
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: The thanks is all to mister Rob here. And yeah,
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: we enjoy, uh you know, having fun every Friday night
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: and just kind of shooting the ship talking to JFK
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: and we have a great time. We've developed a really
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: cool community here, a lot of the same people every
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: night every week. It's it's been fun. And we've done
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: this every Friday night for I think a year now, fourteen.
• 39:57
  Speaker 6: Months, oh wow, over a year.
• 39:58
  Speaker 4: Okay, Yeah, so.
• 40:02
  Speaker 14: Jealous.
• 40:02
  Speaker 12: I'm jealous that you.
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: Got the job. I'm sure if you asked, he would
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: easily kill you fired.
• 40:10
  Speaker 15: Yeah you.
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: So?
• 40:17
  Speaker 15: Do you ever ever.
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: Favorite hockey team in Canada?
• 40:25
  Speaker 13: I listened to music like I yeah, yeah, this is
• 40:28
  Speaker 13: a cool chick. I'm a gymnastics Gymnastics and boxing are
• 40:32
  Speaker 13: the only things I'm interested in.
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: Oh wow, very cool.
• 40:37
  Speaker 4: Yes, it's a beautiful singer songwriter.
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and you do that it's fun.
• 40:43
  Speaker 4: Yes, she does the opening music for a quick hits.
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 40:48
  Speaker 6: Yeah, we need to make that better. We should.
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: We should redo that sometime soon if.
• 40:53
  Speaker 4: You want, Yeah, anytime, just do something and send it
• 40:56
  Speaker 4: to us and we'll.
• 40:57
  Speaker 6: Throw it okay, because I'm bored all the time, so sure.
• 41:01
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Our buddy Roger who does the music here, you know,
• 41:05
  Speaker 4: we let him have free range. It's like here due
• 41:07
  Speaker 4: and he'll he'll give us something and like all right.
• 41:10
  Speaker 4: He's really modest, but he's a really great musician. And
• 41:14
  Speaker 4: I normally I don't say much because I really don't
• 41:17
  Speaker 4: know too much of what I'm saying when it comes
• 41:19
  Speaker 4: to music. If you could slow it down at this part, yeah, great,
• 41:25
  Speaker 4: drum up a little bit here, make the air rais
• 41:28
  Speaker 4: souring a little louder, and you know he'll go in
• 41:30
  Speaker 4: and fix it, mix it back up, send it to me.
• 41:32
  Speaker 11: And Robbie being a producer. That's freaking cool man.
• 41:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, but no, all credit goes to goes to Roger.
• 41:39
  Speaker 4: He's the music man around here. He's a he's a
• 41:42
  Speaker 4: freaking virtuoso. He plays all these drums, guitar, sings.
• 41:47
  Speaker 13: I love it and it comes in He's like JFK
• 41:49
  Speaker 13: fuck yeah, like basically.
• 41:53
  Speaker 4: Exactly exactly. Well, Carolina was lovely seeing you this evening.
• 41:59
  Speaker 4: Thank you so much for joining us. It means the
• 42:01
  Speaker 4: world to me. I mean she almost made me cry
• 42:03
  Speaker 4: earlier yesterday, and it was earlier today, but it was
• 42:08
  Speaker 4: yesterday yesterday. Yeah, I still love you and I'm going
• 42:12
  Speaker 4: to keep it together and just know that I appreciate
• 42:15
  Speaker 4: you being down since day one, and please continue. We
• 42:19
  Speaker 4: love to hear from you, so please stay in touch and.
• 42:21
  Speaker 13: I'll think of something to talk about. But it can't
• 42:23
  Speaker 13: be a boat because there's just too much. It's too much, all.
• 42:28
  Speaker 4: Right, Caroline, thank you so much. Great weekend.
• 42:32
  Speaker 6: Okay, thank you for saving my life.
• 42:34
  Speaker 12: Love you guys.
• 42:37
  Speaker 6: Bye bye guys.
• 42:42
  Speaker 4: Oh that is Caroline, Miss Caroline from the Canadian North.
• 42:46
  Speaker 4: And now let's bring in my favorite listener who I
• 42:52
  Speaker 4: actually got to hang out with in twenty nineteen. He's
• 42:54
  Speaker 4: a globe trotting sensation. That's right, it's mister Greg Stewart.
• 43:01
  Speaker 4: What's up, buddy, what's up? How the hell are you?
• 43:06
  Speaker 15: I'm doing so good man. I'm super proud of you, guys.
• 43:10
  Speaker 15: Joe nice, you need you finally.
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: You two, sir, Thank you for coming on.
• 43:15
  Speaker 4: So let's play the game.
• 43:16
  Speaker 9: Greg.
• 43:17
  Speaker 4: Where in the world is Greg Stewart this evening?
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: Oh?
• 43:24
  Speaker 4: Thank god? Oh okay, it's a rare night for Greg normally. Man,
• 43:29
  Speaker 4: I envy you so bad. You go to some of
• 43:31
  Speaker 4: the coolest kick ass places in the world, like, not
• 43:33
  Speaker 4: just the United States, the world.
• 43:35
  Speaker 15: Yeah, folks, it can get tiring, but it's awesome.
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: It's awesome.
• 43:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean it's you're living your life, bro, and
• 43:44
  Speaker 4: it's freaking awesome.
• 43:46
  Speaker 15: It's always nice to catch an episode of you guys
• 43:48
  Speaker 15: too when I'm out of the country.
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 43:50
  Speaker 15: It's like bucket List Italy with the Long Gunman podcast.
• 43:55
  Speaker 15: Bucket List Portugal with a Friday night listening to the
• 43:59
  Speaker 15: Lone Gunment podcast. Yeah, Fear Dead and Company Fear Yeah, Yeah,
• 44:04
  Speaker 15: maybe I'll check in just to see real quick. I
• 44:07
  Speaker 15: got to run to the bathroom.
• 44:08
  Speaker 16: Put it up to my ear.
• 44:09
  Speaker 12: Listen for a little.
• 44:10
  Speaker 7: While, check in what's up. Guys.
• 44:14
  Speaker 4: See, Joe's a fan. He's a big fish head, and
• 44:17
  Speaker 4: he loves some disco biscuits. I've never heard of it,
• 44:22
  Speaker 4: but apparently Joe's been to how many shows?
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: One hundred and fifty? Yeah, awesome, that is a great Well,
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: that's it. Listen.
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: That is my world.
• 44:33
  Speaker 15: And that's another reason why I love you guys. You know,
• 44:36
  Speaker 15: I know that me and you Rob talked about.
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: It in Dallas.
• 44:41
  Speaker 15: You know, our love of the dead, when Joe came
• 44:44
  Speaker 15: aboard and hearing that he was a fan of the
• 44:47
  Speaker 15: dead and the fish aspect of things, which is something
• 44:50
  Speaker 15: that we we enjoy and travel over the country for
• 44:55
  Speaker 15: many years to capture.
• 44:57
  Speaker 12: And I was born and raised in upstate.
• 44:59
  Speaker 15: New York, so you know, they would come into Saratoga,
• 45:03
  Speaker 15: or we would head down to Jones Beach or wherever.
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 45:08
  Speaker 17: You know, we've got a lot now, yes, yes, which
• 45:13
  Speaker 17: is awesome, you know, amazing, amazing going to uh you
• 45:18
  Speaker 17: know a woods, the Woodstock site and see some of
• 45:22
  Speaker 17: your favorite rock bands.
• 45:23
  Speaker 15: So that but that incorporated with what we love here
• 45:27
  Speaker 15: with you know, researching the JFK assassination and you know,
• 45:34
  Speaker 15: being fans of this this music. It's it's like, I
• 45:37
  Speaker 15: feel as though you guys are my best friends, you know,
• 45:41
  Speaker 15: and it's awesome to to get that spend a couple
• 45:44
  Speaker 15: of hours every week with y'all.
• 45:48
  Speaker 4: Thank you.
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: That's so nice and uh favorite Dead show really quickly,
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: although it was a different version two thousand and eight. Rothberry,
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: July fourth.
• 45:58
  Speaker 15: All right, yeah, you mentioned you mentioned that on another show.
• 46:03
  Speaker 15: I actually have a sticker. Somehow I got a sticker.
• 46:05
  Speaker 15: I don't know if it was from a lot or not,
• 46:08
  Speaker 15: but it's on the back of my iPad and it's
• 46:11
  Speaker 15: from that show.
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: Rothberry.
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: So when you mentioned it it's the.
• 46:16
  Speaker 15: Fourth of July show, I was like, oh, man, no ship,
• 46:19
  Speaker 15: I got that sticker and I.
• 46:20
  Speaker 12: See it every day.
• 46:22
  Speaker 4: Awesome. That is that great? Yea hell yeah, Well thanks
• 46:26
  Speaker 4: for stopping by.
• 46:27
  Speaker 9: Greg.
• 46:28
  Speaker 4: You are the man. Thank you for supporting this show
• 46:31
  Speaker 4: for so long. It means the world to us and
• 46:35
  Speaker 4: we love having you here and you're You're a big
• 46:38
  Speaker 4: part of the show for me and the reason why
• 46:40
  Speaker 4: I do it and the hanging out with you I
• 46:42
  Speaker 4: was so cool. And I wish you nothing but the
• 46:43
  Speaker 4: best in your life. Brother, you too, and you too,
• 46:46
  Speaker 4: you too?
• 46:48
  Speaker 15: Yeah, yeah, yeah, well, thank you for having me on.
• 46:50
  Speaker 15: It's been a you know, a bucket list thing, and
• 46:53
  Speaker 15: I look forward to another two hundred episodes.
• 46:57
  Speaker 7: Hell yeah, buddy, or more, all right from your lips?
• 47:01
  Speaker 4: Yeah, thank you, sir, Thanks buddy, peace peace? All right?
• 47:10
  Speaker 4: You ready for a big swing? Indeed, Joe, Yes, let's
• 47:14
  Speaker 4: do it, all right. This is a big swinging Loan Nutter,
• 47:21
  Speaker 4: one of my favorite ones. Mister Steve Rowe, what's up
• 47:24
  Speaker 4: my friend? Maybe Steve is your Are you muted? Uh huh?
• 47:41
  Speaker 4: Thank you, Steve, Steve row.
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: I just heard the beep.
• 47:53
  Speaker 4: I don't know what's going on. What the sam hell
• 47:57
  Speaker 4: is going on here? Steve? Can you hear it? Maybe
• 48:09
  Speaker 4: you had to step away from his yeah for a second.
• 48:13
  Speaker 4: But we'll leave him up here and hold on. He's
• 48:16
  Speaker 4: messaging me on Facebook. Hold on, let's see what it says.
• 48:25
  Speaker 4: You're on, sir. Let's see what he says. Sure, got
• 48:42
  Speaker 4: new audio from you, he says, I'm trying to connect
• 48:58
  Speaker 4: it here and see you fine. Yah, yeah, we're not hearing.
• 49:08
  Speaker 4: If you can hear me, We're not hearing you at all.
• 49:10
  Speaker 4: I can see you're there, You're on screen and everything,
• 49:14
  Speaker 4: but I can't hear anything. Maybe try reconnecting Steve so
• 49:30
  Speaker 4: I think that's what he's trying to do. When you
• 49:31
  Speaker 4: see him come come back on?
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: Sure?
• 49:35
  Speaker 4: Uh do you wanna?
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: Do you have an invite for Trey? Was that the
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: next member up?
• 49:41
  Speaker 4: Just gotta send him, send him the link.
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: I have a funny picture from Lancer. Once Steve comes on.
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: I think I should showed it up members only, but
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: I don't think you've seen it.
• 49:56
  Speaker 4: All right, Trey, get ready, the link is coming your way, sir, mhm.
• 50:03
  Speaker 4: Since the hell was that noise? I never heard that
• 50:13
  Speaker 4: noise before.
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: What was it?
• 50:16
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: It was like a little beep thing.
• 50:20
  Speaker 4: It was like a beep ring like, I don't know.
• 50:22
  Speaker 4: It was very weird. I do not hear. Yeah, the
• 50:30
  Speaker 4: way I envisioned starting the show, Joe h to have
• 50:35
  Speaker 4: Barton on here because I know it's laid over across
• 50:37
  Speaker 4: the pond. I was gonna have it on first, and
• 50:39
  Speaker 4: I was gonna pretend like I was Alex Jones, since
• 50:41
  Speaker 4: he loved to call me Alex Jones m and I
• 50:45
  Speaker 4: was gonna have him on well with Caroline.
• 50:52
  Speaker 18: H.
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I think that's a really good point
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: that uh that Alan Dale was making. It's like, who
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: is going to be in charge of this? And when
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: I said to Joe and Edie's type, it's like, you
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: never know where that type is going to be embedded,
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: if it's going to be in the archives or maybe
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: a lower middle middle management type of person that's involved.
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: So I think getting the right people in there is
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: going to be crucial. And I think he's friends with
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: rfk Jr. I think you need and hopefully he could
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: have some influence on some people that are involved in
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: the release so they can kind of vet yea when.
• 51:40
  Speaker 4: You can say, understand, rfk Jr. You're a swinging dick, yes, yes.
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, but someone that knows, like you said, how
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: the process works, right, Because if you don't know how
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: this process works, and I'm not claiming to know, it's
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: it's amaze, right, It's it's like good luck just having
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: some stafford figure it out. And I think that's actually
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: might be one of our best chances of getting like
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: a really interesting document is getting it by accident by
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: people at the archives that really don't know what they're doing.
• 52:16
  Speaker 4: But Steve, are you there? Still not getting in the
• 52:24
  Speaker 4: audio from you? Steve, I don't know what. I don't
• 52:26
  Speaker 4: know what in the sam Hill is going on. Dang it.
• 52:33
  Speaker 4: I really wanted to have Steve on too, because Steve
• 52:36
  Speaker 4: might hold the answers to our library book date problem. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 52:48
  Speaker 4: dang it, Yeah, Steve, I'm sorry, I can't. Uh, I
• 52:54
  Speaker 4: can't hear your audio. I just heard something that's Trey
• 52:59
  Speaker 4: has entered yet. Are you muted, Tray?
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: Well, I hope the issue was armed. I don't know
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: why it would be.
• 53:19
  Speaker 4: I don't know either. I mean, everybody's well, Tray doesn't
• 53:23
  Speaker 4: have sound. Your microphone is not only hit the little
• 53:26
  Speaker 4: microphone button, Tray. See how Undertrey's name he doesn't have
• 53:43
  Speaker 4: a speaker and everybody else does.
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: I don't see that.
• 53:55
  Speaker 4: Open up the sources where it has all of us
• 53:58
  Speaker 4: sitting in the green room. You see how everybody has
• 54:03
  Speaker 4: a little speaker and tell yeah, see Steve has a speaker,
• 54:07
  Speaker 4: but we can't hear him. But Trey doesn't have a speaker,
• 54:12
  Speaker 4: Like you have to allow access to your microphone when
• 54:15
  Speaker 4: you first came in here, Trey. Yeah, and for some.
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: Reason you need to exit and come back in this one.
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: Mister Philipe Hemming in the chat forty five days he says, so, hello,
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: mister Philip Hemming. So I think forty five days refers.
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: So based on the executive order there, they have fifteen
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: days to come up with a plan for releasing the
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: JFK documents, in forty five days to come up with
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: a plan for the MLK and the RFK documents. So
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: interesting that there's that kind of disparity, but they will
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: have to come up with a plan, and like Alan
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: Dale kind of said, we'll see how that goes. Yeah,
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: I've said this before. I have doubts that the Archives
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: is just going to be ready to release things by
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: the click of a button. They're so behind on digitizing
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: all these documents we went over. I think we I
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: talked about an article on members only that they had
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: like two or three percent of total things digitized. That
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: doesn't specifically related to the JFK, but you have to think.
• 55:39
  Speaker 4: They have a Hey, shit, I don't know if this
• 55:46
  Speaker 4: is gonna work or not. Steve, we got a lot
• 55:48
  Speaker 4: of feedback. Yeah, let me try closing you out of that,
• 56:03
  Speaker 4: all right, do you have me on speaker.
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I have I'm looking at it. You know,
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: you may.
• 56:13
  Speaker 4: Well just take me off speaker. We've got the echo
• 56:24
  Speaker 4: from hell.
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well we knew there would be some difficulties, so things.
• 56:30
  Speaker 4: For Yeah, Steve, I don't know what's going on because
• 56:33
  Speaker 4: I had you up here, I had your you know,
• 56:36
  Speaker 4: I had you in here. It says your mic is
• 56:38
  Speaker 4: is good, but I got no audio from you. Yeah,
• 56:42
  Speaker 4: audio video. Well, I had your video, but I mean,
• 56:47
  Speaker 4: we're not video. But I had you with here with
• 56:50
  Speaker 4: no picture. Okay, okay, how do you want to proceed
• 56:57
  Speaker 4: with it? I don't know. I'm gonna have to table
• 57:02
  Speaker 4: it for now because I'm getting a lot of feedback
• 57:04
  Speaker 4: this way and I can't get you in the other way.
• 57:08
  Speaker 4: So okay, that's fine. Yeah, I'll just have you what
• 57:14
  Speaker 4: have you on in a couple of weeks or so
• 57:16
  Speaker 4: and do a full show with you if you want.
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, post, no problem.
• 57:22
  Speaker 4: Cool. Well, thanks for trying, Steve. I appreciate it, Bud.
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, good luck to you guys.
• 57:28
  Speaker 4: All right, thanks buddy, have a good week.
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you, Steve.
• 57:37
  Speaker 4: Damn it that sucks. Yeah, that is.
• 57:44
  Speaker 3: So.
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: What I was gonna show was an active effort by
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: Fred Letwin and Steve Rowe to convince me to join
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: the low nutterer side. There's Steve and and you know
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: both of them, son, Yes, And I can't remember what
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: Fever was talking about uh here, but uh, I think
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: we had him on a few weeks before is what
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: had something to do with it? Might have been David Ferry,
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: but I can't remember. But uh, again, very nice guys
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: in person. Steve was very nice as well. Uh and uh,
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: very knowledgeable. So hopefully we can have him on a
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: later date.
• 58:29
  Speaker 4: So uh do you want to? I'll just do you
• 58:40
  Speaker 4: really want to? Hear me? Well, we were having a
• 58:58
  Speaker 4: good idea, Joe. It's it's not come to fruition. And
• 59:00
  Speaker 4: I don't know what the problem is. I know, trade him,
• 59:04
  Speaker 4: but he must not allowed Mike access or something because
• 59:07
  Speaker 4: his sound wasn't showing up right mm hmm. But I
• 59:11
  Speaker 4: don't know what was going with Steve. Possibly the same issue.
• 59:15
  Speaker 14: I don't know.
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: I'm not sure we could. Uh.
• 59:21
  Speaker 4: I've sent a couple more invites out, so we'll see
• 59:23
  Speaker 4: if anybody straggles in.
• 59:30
  Speaker 14: H let's see, let's send.
• 59:43
  Speaker 4: One to Scott. Hello Scott, mm hmm. Check your emails, Scott.
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: Uh if you want, Rob there was an interesting post
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: made by someone I don't know that explains it's two
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: minutes and twenty seconds long how to find the JFK
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: files once they are released, and we could wait, we
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 1: could play it. We could not. But I think it's
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: interesting because all these people on X on whatever side
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: you're on politically, are all tweeting about the JFK files,
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: the JFK files, JFK files. We're going to get the truth.
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: How many of them do you think are actually going
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: to go to the archives website and look and read
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: a file.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 4: No, they're going to come to shows like this and
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 4: hear us talk about them, and we have to do
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 4: the heavy lifting. Yeah, but that's okay because we love
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 4: doing the heavy lifting. Yeah. I mean that's where we
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 4: found most of our of the good shit that we
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 4: uncovered with the Martinses, you know, is digging, diving, eating,
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 4: perusing thousands of documents. Mm hmm, and that's awesome. See yeah, Joe,
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 4: go aheadn't played two minutes all right?
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: If if this has audio issues, to stop me because hello,
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: oh yeah, okay, hello, h oh that's someone back.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 14: Trey.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 4: Now, I think he has sound. Let's see if we
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 4: can hear Trey. Hello Shree Portray otherwise known as dark
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 4: Side Tray.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 12: Yes, glad to be here finally.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah, glad to see you finally. I know you can't
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 4: say before unfortunately for you. But uh, I haven't even
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 4: met Joe in person.
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 12: I have met Joe.
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 4: Yes, you're one up on me. Yes, it was.
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 12: We had a great time at Lancer, and uh, you know,
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 12: I felt like I was just there to kind of
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 12: be an ally to U, Joe and Doug. So, you know,
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 12: I felt it my due to go and fetch coke
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 12: zeros for for Doug. And we found out high it
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 12: as a pepsi only facility. I felt I need to
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 12: correct that wrong.
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 4: So they do love Doctor Pepper and Pepsi and Texas, Yes,
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 4: that they do. Yeah, they had a Pepsi convention or
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 4: something at the time of the DFK assassination. I think
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 4: it was a Pepsi Bottlers convention Psi Bottles. Yeah.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 12: Nixon was there that morning and flew out of love
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 12: Field that earlier that day.
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 4: Oh, yes, you learned some every day, Joe.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no, we we had a great crew at Lancer,
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: and I know Paul was there. Scott Edwards was going
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: to come on in a little bit, was there, Doug
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: of course? And uh, Paul Cummings psv owt to see
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: am I forgetting anyone? If I am, I'm sorry. But
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: speaking of Scott Edwards.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 4: Scott, can you hear us? See Scott doesn't have the
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 4: speaker under his name either, and we can't hear you. Scott.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 4: You may have to exit out and rejoin, sir, yere?
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: How did you fix it?
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 12: I had to go in my browser settings, you know,
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 12: but I kept hitting it like you just wouldn't turn on.
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 12: So I'd go and reset my settings and Windows. So
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 12: that's why I was not able to have a microphone
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 12: access or for a good five minutes or so. I
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 12: have some quality poking.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 4: Check your settings for your for your microphone and when
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 4: you come back in, uh, just to hit allow microphone. Okay.
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 12: Scott and I were tablemates at Lancer, so I'm looking
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 12: forward to hearing from him again.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 4: So and try to come back in, okay, buddy.
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, do you want to give let me give this
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: a shot, this two minute video? Sure, all right, let's
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: see and if again, if it doesn't work, please stop me.
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 19: I'm going to teach you how to find the JFK
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 19: files as soon as they're released, because this is something
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 19: Trumps ordered and it's going to be a huge deal.
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 19: You're going to go to archives dot gov and you're
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 19: going to find a page that is specifically for the
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 19: JFK assassination files. As you can imagine, they get a
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 19: lot of requests about this at the National Archives. You're
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 19: going to look for the master page that has all
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 19: of the different JFK assassination reference on. You can also
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 19: find that at Archives dot gov slash research slash JFK.
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 19: Once you're on that page, you're going to notice that
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 19: they have different sections, but the primary one to look
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 19: at is the released files, which goes by year. The
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 19: latest is twenty twenty three, And of course you can
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 19: look at all the different reports like the Warren Commission
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 19: and other different ways of finding material or sorting by
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 19: name and things like that. Now, as soon as you
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 19: actually go into one of the year pages, you're going
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 19: to notice a huge list of files. It's like a spreadsheet,
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 19: and it has record numbers and agencies that it came
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 19: from and who it's from and where it's going, and
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 19: you know is it deemed relevant even to the JFK
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 19: assassination investigation or not. But all of these different files
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 19: are part of the disclosure, So this is kind of
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 19: how you can tell quickly at a glance what it's about.
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 19: And as soon as the Trump release is actually going through,
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 19: you're going to see a similar dump of files like this,
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 19: So you want to be able to go through and
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 19: kind of understand exactly what it is that you're looking at,
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 19: which agency it's from, and just as importantly, you need
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 19: to understand how to actually find the file. So you
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 19: can see that there's a little pfpdf link on each
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 19: of these rows, and that's actually the original scanned.
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 4: Copy of the file.
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 19: So in this case you can see this was a
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 19: CIA document. It was from Esterline to the chief of
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 19: the Finance Division, and it was redacted, is why they
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 19: held it back. So you can see here they have
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 19: a specific thing that says subject was recruited by a
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 19: band of station at the rate of three hundred dollars
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 19: per month.
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: All right, the rest is kind of redundant, but that
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: has like one point three million views, and I thought
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: that was pretty good because, like I mentioned before, everyone
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: tweeting I'm guessing ninety percent of the people that are
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: tweeting about the JFK files don't wouldn't know where to
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: go to read them.
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 12: So well, that's why we have guys like you, and
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 12: we really appreciate the fact that you guys do such
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 12: great work. And I made a comment during the last
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 12: week's show where I said, you guys ran rings around
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 12: Crudell And it was not a knock on Jeff, because
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 12: I did hear his show with Larry and David.
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 4: It was good.
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 12: But you guys just you know, you guys just are
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 12: on it. You got you know, you go these documents
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 12: every week and it's you know, it's not just hearsay.
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 12: It's like this is it black and white and this
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 12: is you know, we can speculate, but we have to
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 12: have something truthful go on. You guys do that and
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 12: that's what makes this show so great.
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 4: Yeah, No, Jeff, Jeff, Jeff is the his show. He's
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 4: a very good storyteller. Yes right, Yes, he's a great oratory.
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 4: He's a good storyteller. And this is no knock on Jeff.
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 4: We we like the guy. We've had him on quick
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 4: hits before we got him get out of his shell
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 4: a little bit.
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 12: Oh yeah, I met him at Lancer. I just for
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 12: a couple of minutes. I got to say hi to
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 12: him and tell him I like to show.
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 4: So yeah, we uh it was probably I couldn't even.
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 4: You're supposed to know the number of the show trade.
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 4: I mean, you are the archivist.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 12: Now after work on my my quick hits, recall.
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 4: So and and because I call them the most ridiculous
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 4: names that I can think of that have nothing whether
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 4: they have something slightly to do with the subject matter
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 4: of the show, but they're very witty titles and very
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 4: silly titles. So yeah, I couldn't even. I can't even
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 4: recall what we named that Jeff Crudell episode who Knows,
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 4: God only knows.
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 12: But no title ever top George Senator power Bottom.
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 4: Oh I ain't. That's the truth. I love that one.
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 4: When you could do a whole show about George Senator.
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 4: You are doing a deep dive.
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: But it's true.
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 12: Absolutely, it's good stuff. You guys are very creative, but
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 12: you know it's all it's you know. Also it's truthful,
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 12: so we appreciate it.
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 4: Well, we're glad you came over from the dark side.
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 4: You are definitely a powerful fourth to have here. You're
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 4: very knowledgeable, especially about you know, Louise in New Orleans
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 4: and Shreveport, Louisiana.
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 12: So yeah, I've got actually this painting behind me as
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 12: a painting of Canal Street, and I just realized this
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 12: is Canal Street at Saint Charles, which I do believe
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 12: there is news footage of Lee Harvey Oswald passing out
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 12: handbills at that particular intersection.
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 4: So oh, that's awesome.
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 12: Even though I received this painting years ago, it's like
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 12: you just got to me, Hey, you know, there's there
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 12: another JFK tie in, so we're everywhere.
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 4: That's awesome.
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: I saw something on X the other day because I
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: guess New Orleans got a bunch of snow and Florida
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: and the South in general, the Gulf of America, and
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: there were people ice skating on Canal Street and playing hockey.
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 12: Yes, there were I saw that. Saw the same video. Yes,
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 12: most snow they've had in one hundred and thirty years,
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 12: nine inches of snow in New Orleans. Never thought i'd
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 12: see that, or I didn't see it, but it's on YouTube.
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 4: That's crazy. Yeah, holy shit, I'm still waiting. Let's see,
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 4: and I've sent some invites out folks, if you pay
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 4: attention to your emails or your Facebook messenger, Philippe, Colleen,
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 4: A couple of guys in here if you want to
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 4: join us. Hopefully, hopefully we get Paul back in.
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: Jack just mentioned that he's getting blocked from emailing you, guys.
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 4: I'll send you the link Jack in fit on Facebook.
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: Okay, okay, I think Alex is also already. I think.
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 20: All right, I will send him one too, then Joe. Yeah,
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 20: and if I can find hell is Jack in here.
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 4: There he is?
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So I on X this morning because as you know,
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 1: I live on X. I saw a tweet from Posner
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: he was going to be on Fox this morning and
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: then CNN in the afternoon. So I think that's what
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 1: Alan Dale was referring to in terms of him kind
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 1: of doing the rounds Posner and he's kind of, I
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 1: don't know why, he's kind of like the go to
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: on that and this is we're talking about Fox News
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 1: and CNN, so it's not really a partisan thing, and
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 1: he just kind of comes out out of his hole
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 1: every time there's something newsworthy too to spend the bullshit right. Absolutely,
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 1: it's frustrating for you know, people like I'm sure Alan Dale,
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 1: who to use your term tray, could have run circles
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 1: around him, and or someone like Larry or someone you know,
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 1: there's a million other people.
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 4: Which brings me to this point, and I don't know
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 4: who it is or who's orchestrating this horse horse shit
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 4: on the Larry Hancock Show. There's a lot of negative
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 4: comments and I don't know it's coming from a bunch
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 4: of different people, and I don't know if it's the
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 4: same ones that are doing this Amazon book review ship
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 4: show for him, but somebody's got it out for Larry.
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 4: And Larry is one of the nicest human beings on
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 4: the planet Earth, right, and they are just shitting all
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 4: over him and he doesn't deserve that at all. I mean,
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 4: Larry is one of the nicest guys out there in
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 4: this community. Yes, And I said, I don't know, it
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 4: feels like a big troll campaign. But Joe, we need
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 4: to go back through that episode and delete all those comments.
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 4: It's a good bit of.
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: Them live comments or after comments. Yeah, I was a
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 1: lot from the same person as well. I noticed. And actually,
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: that's a great thing you brought up, because we know
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 1: a lot of our faithful audience has ordered the Oswalt Puzzle.
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 1: If you have not, go to Amazon and ordered the
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 1: Oswalt Puzzle, and if you have received it and you
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 1: have read it or read part of it, and you
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: could leave a positive review for Larry, it would help
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 1: counter the trolls because you know, initially when a book
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 1: comes out, it's all about, you know, the stars on it,
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 1: and it's not really about sales. It's kind of just
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 1: about getting good research out there. So if any of
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: our loyal listeners have the Oswalt Puzzle and you'd like
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 1: to give a positive review on Amazon, please do. And
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 1: I think Larry knew that this was going to rustle
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 1: some feathers in the community. I think he was well
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 1: aware of this. I mean, the the we have another one.
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 1: Of course, the Harvey and Leak people are not going
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 1: to like this book.
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 4: Uh just you know, just stating facts in his back Scott.
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 4: Do we have you now, sir?
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 6: I hope?
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 11: So?
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 2: Yes?
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 4: What's up, Scotty?
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 1: How are you, sir?
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 4: Welcome in? Did we lose him again?
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 1: No? Are you sitting by your nice fireplace spot?
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 4: Scott? Are you there? Sir?
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 1: I agree? Paula.
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 14: I think he.
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 1: I think he knows, but I think he he's gets
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 1: compensated from a partner. Uh.
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 12: Didn't you guys here Scott when he was interviewed on O'Kelly.
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 4: A few weeks ago. No, wasn't. He wasn't on o'atelly.
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 12: He was on Olly talking about his book, which sounds
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 12: very interesting. Scott wrote a book, read a book about
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 12: Jack Nicholson. Oh really, Yes, I'm gonna have to say
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 12: about getting it at some point, because it sounds he's
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 12: very knowledgeable about Jack Nicholson.
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 4: And uh.
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 12: The name of Kathy, the famous movie producer who did
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 12: oh there? Ask him, he'll tell you ay all about it.
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 4: So, Hey, welcome in, author noted author of a book.
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 4: Hey Scott, how are you other than getting in? I
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 4: am repaired? Awesome?
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 9: Uh, this arrived yesterday, beautiful? This I have on hand
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 9: all the time.
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 4: Silk City. Hell yeah, wow, live in the brand And
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 4: this is what you were just mentioning. It's essential Jack.
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 9: The study of the film work of Jack Nicholson, all
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 9: the films he's acted in, written the scripts for, and directed.
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 4: Wow, awesome is awesome? Uh?
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 9: All the women that he's made love to well, it's
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 9: it's not a it's not a biography. It's about the films,
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 9: though there are there are aspects of his life that
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 9: are obviously part of the story of being actor. So
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 9: I missed a little bit of what was going on,
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 9: but I did have a sub I wanted to bring up.
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 1: Okay, really quickly, Scott, what what did you think of
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 1: The Departed and Jack Nicholson in that, because that's one
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 1: of my favorite performances of his.
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 9: I thought it was excellent. He really embodied that role
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 9: and there were things that he brought to it that
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 9: were not planned. For instance, that scene where he pulls
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 9: out the gun in the diner the day earlier when
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 9: they were shooting it, and that wasn't supposed to be there.
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 9: He wasn't getting the reaction he thought from DiCaprio, and
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 9: so it was a complete surprise that he pulled out
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 9: the gun, and so that really brought the real reaction
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 9: because of the shock value of that and all that
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 9: stuff with the hand and everything and more interesting.
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 4: But it's.
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 9: The movie is somewhat based on the Whitey Bulger character,
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 9: and in doing work for the book, I one of
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 9: the interviews I did was from a reporter worked on
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 9: that case for twenty five years, so that was part
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 9: of the process, is getting as much people who maybe
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 9: worked on the films or who were experts in certain aspects,
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 9: so for terms of endearment. For instance, he plays the
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 9: Apollo Astronauts retired, and I interviewed several power astronauts to
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 9: get their impressions about that role. So that's part of
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 9: what went into this.
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 4: One of my favorite Jagnificent moments is I think when
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 4: he was winning I can't remember the golden globe or
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 4: an oscar things for when he was for the film
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 4: about Schmidt and he went up to give an acceptance
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 4: speech and he had Robin Williams give it for him.
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 9: That must have been golden globe because I remember when
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 9: he won for that on the Oscars paid tribute to
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 9: a couple of the actors who worked in early in
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 9: his early years who maybe weren't that well known, but
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 9: he's was always known for his loyalty people we work with.
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it must must have been like something smaller like
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 4: the Golden globe, but yeah, it was. It was funny.
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 4: He just said Rob Williams, you know, turn him on,
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 4: you know, and let him go and Jackson is standing
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 4: back like, yeah, you go ahead, you know. So, yeah,
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 4: I love some jack Knows. That's awesome that you wrote
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 4: that book. Scott. Hell yeah, thank you.
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, before you get into what you wanted to talk
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 1: about quickly, Trey, We're gonna have to let you go.
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 1: We have mister Alex Harris on the on the waiting
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 1: line here. But thank you so much for joining us.
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 1: Thank you so much for being a super spy and
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 1: one of our best supporters.
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 12: Thanks for getting me, and thanks for thanks for doing
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 12: this show. It's been great.
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 4: Hell yeah, and.
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 1: Look forward to talking to you again and hopefully seeing
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 1: you next year in Dallas and maybe Shreetport.
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 4: Thank you see the Gay nineties. Yeah, see, you have
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 4: a great one. All right, Hey, mister are.
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 7: You I'm pretty good. I will say I don't have
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 7: much prepared, so you don't need to.
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Scott's gonna talk about show.
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we're just hanging out. Scott's going to talk about
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 1: something for a few minutes. We can comment and if
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 1: you want to update anyone after on what kind of
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 1: you got going on, you can or just give a
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 1: lancer recap or whatever. So yeah, sorry for I don't
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 1: want to interrupt your Scott, Well.
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 9: I didn't have a thought recently, and it's about you know,
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 9: those of us who are interested in this case after
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 9: so many years, we lament that many people have died
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 9: who where witnesses were involved in some way, and those
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 9: who are continuing to do so. However, three of the
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 9: most important involved in this case other than Lee, Harvey
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 9: Oswald and Jack Ruby, are still with us and can help,
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 9: but they will never tell the truth. Never, So that's
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 9: Marina Oswald, Wesley Bull's Fraser and Ruth Payne. Now is
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 9: Marina going to be deported if she says something? Is
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 9: Fraser going to be charged as an accessory if he
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 9: says anything? I don't think there are any repercussions for
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 9: Ruth Payne. But they will never help us out. They
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 9: will never give us the truth for some reason.
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 12: So my question.
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 9: You know, for instance, Marina could say something as simple
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 9: as yes, I was assigned to Lee, and Fraser could
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 9: say yeah, I may up that curtain rods thing, or
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 9: I was told to say this and this forever, otherwise
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 9: I'd be arrested as an accessory. Ruth Paint could say yeah,
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 9: we were handles of the Oswalts, yet they say nothing,
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 9: They change their story in no particular way. And my
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 9: question then is what is it that after over sixty
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 9: years and they are now elderly, and they see people
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 9: dying off for a witnesses and can give us first
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 9: hand help, what is it that is holding them so
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 9: tight that they will not do so. There has to
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 9: be a powerful force or something they think, is there.
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think in the case of Marina, and this
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 4: is the only thing that I could think of, because
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 4: she's come out over the years, and not for like
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 4: twenty five or thirty years at this point, but back
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 4: in the nineties I think was the last time she
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 4: popped up and out.
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 9: You know.
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 4: That at this point for her, and I do know
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 4: researchers who have reached out and spoken with her privately.
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 4: You know, she is willing to talk to some people
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 4: privately about some things. As far as publicly, I think
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 4: her deal is her family at this point, you know,
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 4: repercussions to come back on her family, and I don't
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 4: think she has to worry about being deported at this
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 4: at this stage of the game. You know what I'm saying,
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 4: She's too old. But I did a show a really
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 4: long time ago Scott probably ten years ago, called where
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 4: are you June? Because if I think if Anybody's going
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 4: to push forward the issue of Oswald's innocence, that it
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 4: should be his kids at this point to clear the
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 4: family name, you know what I'm saying, like June and Rachel,
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 4: and if they don't really care, then we're not going
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 4: to hear from him. And we haven't heard from him
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 4: again for twenty five or thirty years. I think June
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 4: went on like the Today Show or something back in
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 4: the nineties, and I don't think Rachel's ever She might
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 4: have had a magazine interview at some point, but and
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 4: I was reading somewhere like Rachel was working like at
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 4: a as a waitress in some bar, you know, in Texas.
• 1:24:28
  Speaker 4: I mean, would that be crazy? You know, you got
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 4: to eat, you know, and Rachel Oswald as your server,
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 4: you know, or June Oswald is your real estate agent,
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 4: which is what I think she became. But I don't
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 4: even think that she got by the name June Oswald anymore.
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 4: I think she changed her name for public news. But yeah,
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 4: it's just crazy things like that. As far as Fraser goes,
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 4: I don't know what his deal is and what hesitation
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 4: is I mean, you know, I don't think it's at
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 4: this point worried about getting arrested or anything like that.
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 4: I just think that worry about being viewed as a
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 4: as a liar for all these years, because there's no
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 4: there's really no excuse for it at this point, you know,
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 4: to not give up the goat and paying I mean, well.
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean there's some of the I mean, at
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 1: least in Bueles for case, and and and somewhat Marina.
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 1: There stories have changed over time. So if they did
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 1: come out with the truth, the truth, now, how would
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 1: we even be able to discern it, you know and
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 1: tell what is the truth or not? Uh? And that's
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 1: one of the issues too, I think Scott so but
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 1: I think, yeah, both Lee's daughters are very private people.
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 1: I think they're both pretty successful. I think they've moved
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 1: on and I have families, have kids. They don't want
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 1: this kind of attention. And I don't even know what
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 1: what information. You know, they were so young at the time,
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 1: or you know, maybe they inherited something right that could
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 1: be interesting, but I'm not sure what they could really contribute.
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 1: But of course it would be very interesting to hear
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 1: their perspective on it now, right, documents were released since
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 1: we last heard from them in the nineties or whenever
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 1: it was.
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 4: So Now, Alex, what do you think about that, buddy?
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 7: I mean, I think I agree with you Rob about
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 7: a lot of it.
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 4: I mean, it would be nice to see June and
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 4: Rachel come out and publicly do something, you know what
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 4: I mean.
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 7: At this point, I do think they are They're very
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 7: private people. I think there has been some interviews with
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 7: them that I've seen, but you know, not a whole
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 7: lot since the nineties. Yeah, I mean, I think, uh,
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 7: Marina came out like twenty ten ish with something, but
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 7: it hasn't really talked much since.
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 4: Grandkids is in their twenties or thirties by now, you know. Yeah,
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 4: there was this thing going around like a couple of
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 4: years ago about Oswald's grandson like dating like a distant
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 4: reslative of the Kennedy's or something weird. Something. It was
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 4: something weird. Yeah, yeah, huh, yeah, that was on. I
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 4: think I've took it on the head form or something.
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 4: But it turned out to be mentally disturbed people, right, Well.
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 1: They can't they can't be more mentally disturbed than JFF
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 1: k is only surviving grandson, Jack Schlossburg. You heard of him, Robert.
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 1: He is a fairy.
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 4: He is a he's a fairy.
• 1:28:00
  Speaker 7: He is a gay man, and he is he.
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 1: Came out recently and and he's been I mean, I
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 1: don't obviously nothing wrong with that. I don't care about that,
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 1: but he's been pooh poohing the recent releases and the conspiracies.
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 1: And I think he had a tweet that says the
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 1: family knows the truth and it's much more sad than
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 1: the mainstream like what people think happened. And I was like,
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 1: what do you mean by that? And he he is
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 1: a Weirdoh I could we could pull up something with
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 1: tweets maybe out members only next week. It's it's bizarre, bro,
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 1: And he is like, yeah, he's I think JFK would
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 1: be turning his grave if this is it's Caroline. Of
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 1: course's Caroline's son.
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 4: So he's out there, Caroline Kennedy Selests whatever the other
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 4: name is.
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 9: He out there today getting attention with Posner. There are
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 9: two people who are being quoted in all this craziness
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 9: that probably won't amount to much.
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no, he he he has been He's very
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 1: low number, which is weird and it's well, we'll go
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 1: over it. Maybe I'll members only, but all right, well,
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 1: I uh, Scott, thank you so much for jumping on
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 1: for a few minutes. Ye appreciate it.
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 4: Well, thank you, I appreciate it. Essential Amazon.
• 1:29:39
  Speaker 9: And to Alex and George your presentation at Lancer. The
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 9: work that you've done to put that together is extraordinary.
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 7: Thank you very much.
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, Scott, thanks for dropping in, buddy, and we
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 4: appreciate your your support of the show and your listener
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 4: ship and your and your keen insights and look forward
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 4: hearing from you all the time. Buddy, Good evening, three
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 4: weekend buddy too.
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 1: So yeah, Alex, how have things gone for since Lancer?
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 1: How was the start of your new year?
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 7: But it was pretty good. Like I said, I don't
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 7: really have much prepared to talk about. I have a
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 7: couple of things I want to mention and ask of
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 7: you guys and whoever's watching, uh with help on some
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 7: things that I'm doing, But not really much.
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 1: It's been going on.
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 7: I'm actually been taking a break from a lot of
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 7: this stuff for at least kind of a break for
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 7: a while.
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 4: Sometimes what was that is it? Sometimes you need to brother.
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 7: Oh yeah, Lancer, Lancer was awesome. I think it went
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 7: really well. I mean, I know a lot of people
• 1:31:08
  Speaker 7: liked my presentation. I honestly don't think I did that well,
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 7: but I know a lot of people enjoyed it. I
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 7: know I was one of the only ones to actually
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 7: read out the questions again that people asked. I know
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 7: a lot of the people online enjoyed that.
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, so the people online Rob couldn't hear the
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 1: questions being asked. They could hear the answer from the presenter,
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 1: and everyone kept reminding Kenneth and Gabby kept saying, speakers,
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 1: can you please repeat the questions so the online audience
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 1: could hear and very few people did it. But Alex
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 1: as well, we did not take questions, so we did
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 1: not run into that problem. But yeah, that's a very
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 1: admirable view for sure, and I thought it was great.
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 1: Of course, you're being modest. And for those that don't know,
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 1: Alex put together a video timeline from when JFK correct
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 1: me if I'm wrong here Alex, from when JFK landed
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 1: at love Field and all the different videos and to this,
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 1: you know, motorcade as it goes into Dallas and then
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 1: of course as you go into daily you get all
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 1: the other photos videos as they were taken, right, And
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 1: that's a brilliant idea. And can they find it on
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 1: your YouTube now?
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 7: Yeah, they can at least the presentation I have. I
• 1:32:44
  Speaker 7: made a separate channel for my synchronizations and stuff just
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 7: because I'm getting into non Kennedy related ones that I
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 7: think are really interesting but don't really fit in with
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 7: all the other stuff. But yeah, I like what you said.
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 7: It's I think it's a very clever thing that people
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 7: have definitely tried to do before, but I haven't seen
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 7: anyone really succeed with it other than Dale Myers, who's
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 7: worked pretty much laid the foundation for what I've done
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 7: with it.
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's awesome, man, awesome. Yeah.
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, No, it was a great time. The marriyout was
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 1: a great venue.
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 1:33:29
  Speaker 1: It was kind of made for conferences.
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, I know. Last year's was not.
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 9: No, it was not.
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 1: It was a very rectangular room. It was kind of
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 1: hard to see. This one was much better. And do
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 1: you have any inside information as to will it be
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 1: held next year at the same aria? Uh, you speak
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 1: on that.
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 7: I believe I can they. I believe I don't know
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 7: this or certain. This is just what I've heard from them.
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 7: They are planning to have it there next year. I
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 7: don't know if it's an agreement they have or whatever,
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 7: but I know they're planning to have it there next year.
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 7: I don't know that if they're going to have it
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 7: there for certain, right, you never.
• 1:34:17
  Speaker 1: Know what what can come up, of course.
• 1:34:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah, well, Alex, check this out while you're why you're here,
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 4: I'm going to bring on another special guest, and he's
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 4: a former former guest of mine from many, many years ago.
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 4: I believe one of the first researchers to bring forth
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 4: information about the ACME building management company that took care
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 4: of the school book depository after hours and on the
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 4: weekends with building access without further ado. Joining us is
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 4: Tim Yakarino. What's up? Tim? Are you there?
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  Speaker 11: Can you hear me?
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 1: I have you?
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 4: How are you doing?
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 11: I'm doing well. I'm doing well. Having some issues with
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 11: the camera, but hey, appreciate you letting me join.
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 6: Rob.
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 7: It's been it's been quite a few years, a couple
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 7: of years.
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 11: Yeah, and uh, you know anything you know when it
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 11: comes to the JFK research, I don't think we're always
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 11: fully out of it, you know, we uh we always
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 11: get back pulled back in into it some way, somehow,
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 11: you know, So on a little break, but very uh
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 11: you know, thankful that you reached out to me to
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 11: talk a little bit about some of my past research.
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 4: Yeah, man, because that is literally your your show is
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 4: one of the ones that I get the most questions
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 4: about when it comes to the ACME Building Management Company
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 4: and all of that, because it was something new that
• 1:35:44
  Speaker 4: I don't think anybody had ever stumbled across and town before,
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 4: and it kind of blew some minds man. So yeah, yeah,
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 4: you know, and you know, just.
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 11: To kind of you know, talking about it being uh,
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 11: you know, reviewing some of my old notes that I
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 11: that I had from it, and you know, just so
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 11: people you know who aren't aware of it. So this
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 11: ACME Building uh maintenance company, they they had access uh
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 11: to to the Texas school Book Depository, started off with
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 11: an owner. His name was Frank Jones. Frank owned the
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 11: company from the mid forties up until early sixties. They
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 11: got the contract to the school book Depository around May
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 11: of sixty three, and this company was a well known company.
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 11: Frank Jones was a well known businessman throughout Dallas, was
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 11: on many different boards and throughout and something something started
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 11: to change. He he got some some folks on on
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 11: his board of directors that one by the name a
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 11: man named of William Travis. And it's key to remember
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 11: this name, William Travis. So William Travis joins ACME around
• 1:36:58
  Speaker 11: the same time that they get the school book depository
• 1:37:02
  Speaker 11: contract in November of that year. I had found some
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 11: documents that William Travis was going through some financial trouble
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 11: and you know, coincidentally enough, you know what happened on
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 11: the twenty second happened, and you know he's in charge
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 11: of it. This building. They have access two people who
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 11: made statements about it that I had found. I just
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 11: was reading through various statements of Roy Truley, and I
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 11: believe Eddie Piper was the other one who the only
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 11: two that mentioned this maintenance company have an access nowhere else.
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 11: And I believe me was digging for years about this.
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 11: No one else mentioned. It wasn't in any warrant commission obviously,
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 11: wasn't in anything else. So what's strange about it? William
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 11: Travis starts to do like I would call it, you know,
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 11: a takeover of ACTME and Frank Jones gets pushed out
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 11: of the company. And that's around early nineteen sixty four
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 11: that he Frank Jones, this original owner, is pushed out
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 11: of the company. ACME, which was well known, like I
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 11: had said, started to change hands numerous times. They were
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 11: bought by a company I think it was like CT
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 11: Corporation chem Tech in sixty four. So about nineteen sixty
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 11: six they remained this name. Then they started to change
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 11: it to Maintenance of Dallas. This business started owning other companies,
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 11: Maintenance of Houston, maintenance of this right, and this company
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 11: just kept getting bigger and bigger. And at the time
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 11: I was doing this research, you know, a few years ago,
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 11: William Travis was still in charge of this company, and
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 11: which was crazy, you know. But I reached out to them. Obviously,
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 11: no comment nothing. I tried doing research effort. Yeah, I tried.
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 11: I had to try, right I then, I, you know,
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 11: wanted to find out more about ACME building maintenance. Nothing, uh,
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 11: Secretary of State trying to find any any record of
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 11: this company existing.
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 4: Was gone.
• 1:39:15
  Speaker 11: I tried getting employee records, no nowhere to be found.
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 11: I've reached I tried reaching out to Frank Jones, I
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 11: believe I had one one child. I tried reaching out
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 11: to them, nothing, and you know, obviously always poses you
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 11: know the question, all right, so these people had access, right,
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 11: could they have set up a stage up there? You know,
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 11: William Travis, you know, hey, you're in deep financial trouble,
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 11: you know, right, what what it's a lot, it's just
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 11: a lot of questions. But I found it very interesting.
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 11: And you know, if you go down that rabbit hole
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 11: and uh, you know it was a couple of years
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 11: of bigging and uh but yeah, that's kind of that's
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 11: kind of a little bit of that story of some
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 11: of the things I found.
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I respect the hell out of it and
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 1: your research. And I don't know if you've been keeping
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 1: up with a lot of our shows, but Robill confirmed this.
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 1: I probably bring up your episode at least on a
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 1: bi monthly basis as being one of my favorites. It's
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 1: just a great example of how to deep dive into
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 1: something that no one had looked into, and that's why
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 1: I loved it. And you're right, they had access to
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 1: the building overnight when no one was there. You have
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 1: to think about, you know, could they have had the
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 1: opportunity to bring in cleaning supplies along with a rifle,
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 1: or it would be so easy to do that. But
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 1: one question I had, and I think you covered this
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 1: in that episode, is when the company sold in early
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 1: sixty four, they when it transferred owners and I don't
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 1: know what the law is on this, but they didn't
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 1: have to keep all the employee contracts and the records
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 1: and things like that, So correct me if I'm wrong.
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 1: Uh that and you theorized that was maybe a reason
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 1: of why it was sold was to to kind of
• 1:41:14
  Speaker 1: get those records off the books for lack of a doctor.
• 1:41:17
  Speaker 11: Yeah, and and that that was my thinking, right. You know,
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 11: how many times can we sell a company and you
• 1:41:23
  Speaker 11: know before they forget about it, and you know, so
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 11: when when trying to find records, they, like you said,
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 11: they didn't have to keep any of that stuff, you know,
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 11: and you keep changing ownerships and changing names. But when
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 11: you when you deep down, you know what the root
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 11: company was, which was that actme? And you know whatever
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 11: it is right now? You know, Maintenance of Dallas, Maintenance
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 11: of Houston. You can go look it up there. They're
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 11: all around, you know, and even to this day. But
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 11: the root of it all was ACTME building maintenance, you know,
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 11: and actually the building that they were in when I
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 11: went to go visit Dallas like a few years ago
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 11: around that time. Uh, it's a parking lot now, the
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 11: ACME building they made that into a parking lot. They
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 11: got they got rid of the whole thing, like they
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 11: didn't want to keep anything around. But yeah, it's a
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 11: parking lot. Just strange to me that a company as
• 1:42:14
  Speaker 11: big as it got. And as you know, I have
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 11: some articles I had put I remember in my you know,
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 11: my research, but all of a sudden just disappears, and
• 1:42:26
  Speaker 11: you know, I can't can't help but think you know
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 11: in question, you know everything that surrounds it and how
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 11: it all transpired.
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 1: You're muted, rob, I think, Alex, you want to say
• 1:42:43
  Speaker 1: something really quickly.
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I want to say, Uh, there's something that I
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 7: don't want to announce right at the moment, but I
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 7: need some help with it. If anybody knows someone like
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 7: a pathologist or someone like that who can advise me
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 7: with some medical details about some things, h please put
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 7: me in contact with them because I've obtained some some
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 7: more things. I'll announce soon once I get everything figured out.
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 7: Because I I want a pathologist to have a look
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 7: at them before I say anything more. These are pretty big.
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 4: Unfortunately Cyril Weck is not with us anymore. Or but yeah, yeah,
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 4: who knows, as long as you're not looking on how
• 1:43:48
  Speaker 4: to cut up any dead bodies that.
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 7: No, no, either, it's concerning an autopsy. I won't say
• 1:43:58
  Speaker 7: who's yet, but I think y'all will be really interested
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 7: in these, really interested.
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 1: Yes, thank you. And someone asked, what is Alex's YouTube channel,
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 1: the JFK Theorist, And uh, you mentioned another one that
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 1: you were starting.
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 7: Yeah, and that's it's just Alex Harris Film Synchronizations.
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 1: Okay, I'll have to follow that one as well. So
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 1: thank you so much Alex for coming on. We got
• 1:44:37
  Speaker 1: a few more people in the line up here and
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 1: we're running late, but always good to see you, buddy.
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 1: Enjoyed hanging out with you this past November and looking forward.
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 1: I know we'll talk after the show.
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 4: So yeah, all right, yeah, Alex, thank you for coping
• 1:44:51
  Speaker 4: by it, bud. See yeah, alrighty, there he goes. It's
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 4: tim But I was trying to say muted. Your website
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 4: is still up right, It.
• 1:45:05
  Speaker 11: Is still up jf Kennedy nineteen sixty three dot com.
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 11: It is still up and running. Can't get rid of
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 11: it because you know, every once in a while I start,
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 11: I still get on there, mess around with it, and
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 11: you know, I feel like, you know, I don't know.
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 11: In my background, I always got my books. I always
• 1:45:22
  Speaker 11: randomly go up to them, you know, and get that
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 11: it start to start deep diving again. So who knows,
• 1:45:28
  Speaker 11: might might start getting back into it.
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 4: Well, if you find anything, let us know, we'll bring
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 4: you back into a full show with you again. And yeah,
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 4: for anybody out there that wants to check it out,
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 4: follow the link. You can find his original research at
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 4: that web At that website which I think I was
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 4: talking about, I actually brought it up. I can't remember
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 4: how many shows ago it was, but we kind of
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 4: went into a little bit about that. And also the
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 4: Allied Protection Agency YEP, I think that's what it was called. YEP.
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 4: That they kind of went Allied Security or something like that,
• 1:46:03
  Speaker 4: Allied Security.
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 1: Ye.
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and they also had access to the building as
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 4: well after hours and on weekends. So yeah, very cool stuff.
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 4: But Tim, it's been an awesome blast in the past
• 1:46:17
  Speaker 4: to have you back on. Dude, good seeing you, and
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 4: I hope everything's going well with you, and thanks again
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 4: for stopping by.
• 1:46:24
  Speaker 11: And uh I join us a little bit, all right,
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 11: thank you guys.
• 1:46:28
  Speaker 4: Yes, and touch buddy, and there Tim goes. And now
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 4: I think we might have Jack with no audio. Jack.
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 1: Well, there we go.
• 1:46:48
  Speaker 4: There he is Jack. We will see you now, but
• 1:46:53
  Speaker 4: we have no audio for you, sir. We can't hear you.
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 4: You don't have a microphone. Uh access my check your
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 4: check your settings for your microphone.
• 1:47:06
  Speaker 1: There, yeah, we had. Trey said he had to adjust.
• 1:47:13
  Speaker 1: And if you need to back out and come back again,
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 1: that is fine. A nice little carousel we got going on.
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 4: Here, sir. I like it. I'm digging it too.
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:47:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah, sorry, I'm catching up on all my messages here, Joe. Yes, okay,
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 4: let me send that uh yeah.
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 14: Two yeah him.
• 1:47:50
  Speaker 1: And we you never heard from Seamus no, mhmm, well.
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 4: There he is.
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 1: I have to go back and uh rewatch the Alex
• 1:48:27
  Speaker 1: Harris film synchronization because I saw it at Lancer. But
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 1: of course that was a I was a couple of
• 1:48:34
  Speaker 1: tables away. It was a big screen.
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 6: But huh.
• 1:48:40
  Speaker 1: H you know he's uh he is a two time
• 1:48:43
  Speaker 1: record for youngest presenter at Lancer and he is a
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 1: really smart guy and uh, definitely an asset for the
• 1:48:52
  Speaker 1: community for for years to come. I was gonna ask
• 1:48:56
  Speaker 1: him if he thought any videos we're gonna to be
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 1: in the releases, but what We'll have to ask them
• 1:49:02
  Speaker 1: that next time. I'm sure there are some hidden away
• 1:49:06
  Speaker 1: at the archives.
• 1:49:08
  Speaker 4: But well, they said that it doesn't. I was reading
• 1:49:10
  Speaker 4: something in an email that things like the NBC newsreels
• 1:49:16
  Speaker 4: like the Darnell film, you know that I know Bart
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 4: wants to get his hands on so badly, are not
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 4: subject to the JFK Act. They're not considered JFK records,
• 1:49:25
  Speaker 4: which sucks strictly files from these big intelligence agencies, the FBI,
• 1:49:33
  Speaker 4: things like that. So yeah, no films.
• 1:49:42
  Speaker 1: Well, hopefully Gal's lawsuit goes forward in a successful manner
• 1:49:49
  Speaker 1: and we can get that.
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 4: Hey, Joe, still no audio, Yeah, we still don't have
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 4: that little speaker under your name. Man, Try backing out
• 1:50:09
  Speaker 4: and then coming back in and just remember to allow
• 1:50:11
  Speaker 4: mike access. Just make sure your mic on the laptop
• 1:50:15
  Speaker 4: is good to go. Should work. Thanks Jack, We're seeing
• 1:50:19
  Speaker 4: a few. Yeah, wow, this is like a crazy whirlwind
• 1:50:27
  Speaker 4: romance here. Joe it's like I know.
• 1:50:31
  Speaker 1: So I'm so happy Tim came on because listeners of
• 1:50:35
  Speaker 1: the show will know I bring this up at least
• 1:50:38
  Speaker 1: every couple of months that episode, and it's just like
• 1:50:42
  Speaker 1: I told him, like I just said twenty seconds ago.
• 1:50:45
  Speaker 1: It's just a great example of how to deep dive
• 1:50:50
  Speaker 1: the hell out of something. And there was definitely some
• 1:50:57
  Speaker 1: weird things going on there. And one thing I forgot
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 1: is that the guy I'm blank out his name is
• 1:51:05
  Speaker 1: Jones was in financial trouble at the time.
• 1:51:09
  Speaker 4: Uh, my brain is melting. Roger.
• 1:51:14
  Speaker 1: Very easy to gain leverage on someone if they're going broke,
• 1:51:20
  Speaker 1: very easy. So that is a fascinating.
• 1:51:33
  Speaker 4: I'll try to get all right, I'll go comment, Uh,
• 1:51:47
  Speaker 4: are you seeing Steve in the studio? No, I'm only
• 1:51:52
  Speaker 4: saying he says he's in. I don't understand Steve Rope Steve,
• 1:51:59
  Speaker 4: he's been trying in some different ways.
• 1:52:03
  Speaker 1: Huh uh neo.
• 1:52:05
  Speaker 4: And why nine one four.
• 1:52:07
  Speaker 1: I think he's from Westchester if he says and why
• 1:52:10
  Speaker 1: nine one four because that is the area coache from Westchester.
• 1:52:14
  Speaker 1: I know that because I was born there. Do you
• 1:52:16
  Speaker 1: guys really think he was shot by one person? Lee Oswald?
• 1:52:24
  Speaker 1: Are you talking about.
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 4: JFK probably since we're JK.
• 1:52:31
  Speaker 1: Well, you know he could. I wasn't sure if like
• 1:52:33
  Speaker 1: Lee Oswald was shot by one person. I mean, just
• 1:52:36
  Speaker 1: the wording is a little weird, but uh no, I
• 1:52:41
  Speaker 1: think there were multiple.
• 1:52:42
  Speaker 4: Shooters, multiple shooters, and I do.
• 1:52:46
  Speaker 1: Not think Lee fired a shot, although I could be wrong,
• 1:52:50
  Speaker 1: but I do not think he did. And you know,
• 1:52:56
  Speaker 1: uh Larry, who we had on last week as an
• 1:53:00
  Speaker 1: interesting article up on his blog on Oswalt's shooting skills,
• 1:53:05
  Speaker 1: which I know we've gone over in the past. Oh,
• 1:53:07
  Speaker 1: I see him. I see him there now with Steve
• 1:53:10
  Speaker 1: with the.
• 1:53:11
  Speaker 4: Let's see if we can hear Steve now, Steve, can
• 1:53:13
  Speaker 4: you hear us? Steve, Steve bro if you can hear me?
• 1:53:27
  Speaker 4: We cannot hear you. I don't know what's going on.
• 1:53:31
  Speaker 4: He tried on his phone now and we still have
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 4: no audio from Steve. H not sure. I'm not sure
• 1:53:39
  Speaker 4: what's going on, buddy. Yeah.
• 1:53:42
  Speaker 1: So Neo is new here and welcome to the TLG fam. Ah.
• 1:53:51
  Speaker 1: Paula says there's no loan nutters in this chat. Ah,
• 1:53:56
  Speaker 1: but if you are, you are welcome and we will
• 1:53:58
  Speaker 1: change your mind.
• 1:53:59
  Speaker 3: Sir.
• 1:54:04
  Speaker 1: Let's see what tiny says here as we wave O Steve,
• 1:54:07
  Speaker 1: if you read that executive order carefully, he grants the
• 1:54:10
  Speaker 1: authority to the heads of the agencies and says some
• 1:54:12
  Speaker 1: serious bs about not going outside of budgetary appropriations. Good lord.
• 1:54:19
  Speaker 1: I think that's what Allan was kind of alluding to.
• 1:54:28
  Speaker 1: And it's concerning you know, I don't think Trump personally
• 1:54:35
  Speaker 1: really cares about it. I think he kind of took
• 1:54:39
  Speaker 1: advantage of the political opportunity releasing them gave him. And
• 1:54:47
  Speaker 1: of course I do think he had some type of
• 1:54:50
  Speaker 1: deal with RFK Junior because when he signed the executive order,
• 1:54:54
  Speaker 1: he took the pen. He said give this to RFK Jr.
• 1:54:57
  Speaker 1: And that's of course symbolic. It's a nice thing for
• 1:54:59
  Speaker 1: him to do. But I think it's kind of like, Okay,
• 1:55:05
  Speaker 1: I did it. This is my you know, promise captain
• 1:55:08
  Speaker 1: to you, sir for whatever. And Greg Stewart, thank you
• 1:55:14
  Speaker 1: so much for the ten dollars super check.
• 1:55:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Greg, you're the man, Yes you are.
• 1:55:21
  Speaker 1: We loved having you on.
• 1:55:22
  Speaker 4: And that'll buy Joe and No drinking his next Disco
• 1:55:25
  Speaker 4: Biscuits concert.
• 1:55:28
  Speaker 1: You know, last year was the first year I didn't
• 1:55:30
  Speaker 1: go to one, so I don't know when they're I'm
• 1:55:34
  Speaker 1: gonna have the next concert.
• 1:55:35
  Speaker 4: But now you are Steve Rowe. Steve, if you can
• 1:55:44
  Speaker 4: hear me, you don't have a little speaker under your name,
• 1:55:49
  Speaker 4: which means we definitely don't have audio for me. Now
• 1:55:54
  Speaker 4: before you had the little speaker, but no audio. The
• 1:56:01
  Speaker 4: conspiracy gods Steve, obviously are trying to conspire against you
• 1:56:10
  Speaker 4: this evening. I don't know what the hell is going on,
• 1:56:13
  Speaker 4: but it's happened to Trey and Scott as well. But
• 1:56:17
  Speaker 4: I think it's just a matter of microphone settings and
• 1:56:23
  Speaker 4: allowing microphone access when you come in here. I apologize
• 1:56:29
  Speaker 4: Steve for the trouble getting in here. And I think
• 1:56:35
  Speaker 4: Jack was running into a password problem. And I saw
• 1:56:38
  Speaker 4: Jack in here for a minute and then and then
• 1:56:42
  Speaker 4: he bounced. I'm not sure what happens, So Jack, if
• 1:56:45
  Speaker 4: you're out there, come back, come back. Jack.
• 1:57:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, there does seem to be some some tech
• 1:57:11
  Speaker 1: issue with something. And Neo, who is also new here, asked,
• 1:57:16
  Speaker 1: what do we think of James.
• 1:57:17
  Speaker 4: Files brou Seriously. Well, he's a.
• 1:57:23
  Speaker 1: Little newer to it, so essentially James Files is the.
• 1:57:29
  Speaker 4: What's the right word, Well, Paul Cummings, I think summed
• 1:57:34
  Speaker 4: it up nicely. Here you go, Joe. Yes, he was
• 1:57:39
  Speaker 4: a guy sitting in jail with a lot of time
• 1:57:42
  Speaker 4: and reading the case exactly. Wow. He's one of these
• 1:57:48
  Speaker 4: guys who may have had some mafia connections in Chicago
• 1:57:54
  Speaker 4: at some point and figured he could elbow his way
• 1:57:59
  Speaker 4: in to this case for whatever reason, fame or fortune
• 1:58:03
  Speaker 4: or reduced sentence or whatever he was looking for. But
• 1:58:09
  Speaker 4: there's several aspects of his story that have been thoroughly
• 1:58:13
  Speaker 4: debunked over the years. So while he might be.
• 1:58:19
  Speaker 1: An interesting character, interesting character, a good guy.
• 1:58:26
  Speaker 4: Well, I actually met on the Grassy Knoll in twenty nineteen.
• 1:58:31
  Speaker 1: And that's all you kind of need to know. Right
• 1:58:33
  Speaker 1: If you're hanging out on the Grassy Knoll saying you're
• 1:58:36
  Speaker 1: the assassin, you're probably not the assassin, right, but you
• 1:58:45
  Speaker 1: know it's and you know, this is what I think
• 1:58:48
  Speaker 1: what Alan Dale said, He goes, I appreciate you guys
• 1:58:51
  Speaker 1: fighting the good fight, because listen, if we did an
• 1:58:54
  Speaker 1: episode rob next week entitled James Files Admitted Assassin of JFK,
• 1:59:02
  Speaker 1: we might get one hundred thousand views on that. Like
• 1:59:08
  Speaker 1: YouTube loves to push the Files thing, as does X
• 1:59:13
  Speaker 1: I've seen the driver turning around to shoot JFK all
• 1:59:17
  Speaker 1: over the place, right, so the bullshit starts to flow.
• 1:59:21
  Speaker 1: If we did an episode on say, members of inter Pen, right,
• 1:59:25
  Speaker 1: it will get one twentieth the views of the James
• 1:59:31
  Speaker 1: File show. And you have to wonder is that intentional.
• 1:59:36
  Speaker 4: The game man.
• 1:59:39
  Speaker 1: Yes, we do refrain from from doing shows like that
• 1:59:45
  Speaker 1: for views because we are.
• 1:59:48
  Speaker 4: Not in it for that. So yes, it can be
• 1:59:51
  Speaker 4: proven false. Like I said, it's been debunked several ways
• 1:59:54
  Speaker 4: from Sunday and based on his claims alone, yes, proven false.
• 2:00:05
  Speaker 4: Scott appreciated my friend, thank you for the supersticker character
• 2:00:12
  Speaker 4: holding their head in their hands, saying incredible. Yes, yeah,
• 2:00:20
  Speaker 4: it might be an issue of a It might be
• 2:00:22
  Speaker 4: a browser issue because I think, Joe, you were running
• 2:00:26
  Speaker 4: into this before too Google Chrome, I think is what
• 2:00:33
  Speaker 4: is what I'm running on the Chrome browser, and I
• 2:00:37
  Speaker 4: think I was having issues with like Firefox, and.
• 2:00:43
  Speaker 1: I don't know what the hell you were using Microsoft
• 2:00:46
  Speaker 1: Edge all right, Yeah, I was having major issues and
• 2:00:50
  Speaker 1: I'm actually running on Chrome now and no issues.
• 2:00:53
  Speaker 4: So yeah, I'm not sure why it matters, but Chrome
• 2:00:58
  Speaker 4: seems to work the best.
• 2:01:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, So Neo, that's the thing is that you could
• 2:01:09
  Speaker 1: have basic knowledge to make your story sound like you
• 2:01:13
  Speaker 1: know what you're talking about. But there's no corroboration really,
• 2:01:20
  Speaker 1: and at the end of the day, it's hard to
• 2:01:22
  Speaker 1: find someone in Dallas that didn't know Jack Ruby. I
• 2:01:25
  Speaker 1: don't think Files new Ruby, but just in general, everyone
• 2:01:29
  Speaker 1: knew Ruby. So just knowing Ruby isn't look, you know,
• 2:01:35
  Speaker 1: the pre work requisite.
• 2:01:37
  Speaker 4: Neo, neon whatever. A lot of people say a lot
• 2:01:41
  Speaker 4: of things when it comes to trying to insert themselves
• 2:01:44
  Speaker 4: in this case, and look no further than Judith very Baker,
• 2:01:50
  Speaker 4: James Files. I mean, the list goes on and on
• 2:01:54
  Speaker 4: and on, and that's people inserting themselves, not to mention
• 2:01:58
  Speaker 4: how many people have been inserted into the story that
• 2:02:02
  Speaker 4: have absolutely nothing to do with anything. But yeah, all right,
• 2:02:08
  Speaker 4: I think Jack's back. Let's try to get Jack back
• 2:02:10
  Speaker 4: on hopefully successful here. Jack, are you back with audio?
• 2:02:17
  Speaker 4: Can you guys? Hear me? Yes?
• 2:02:21
  Speaker 18: Yeah?
• 2:02:21
  Speaker 4: What's the iPad? It worked? I think it's a browser thing, man,
• 2:02:26
  Speaker 4: I don't know what's going on.
• 2:02:27
  Speaker 18: That's what it said. It It just I could never
• 2:02:30
  Speaker 18: get it to work on my phone, but I switched
• 2:02:32
  Speaker 18: to to iPad. Must have permission, good to see you guys.
• 2:02:36
  Speaker 4: Good to see you too. You too, sir, Trey just
• 2:02:40
  Speaker 4: dropped the five on its Joe, Thanks Trey, Thanks you brother.
• 2:02:47
  Speaker 4: So what have you been up to, Jack?
• 2:02:50
  Speaker 2: Oh?
• 2:02:51
  Speaker 18: Just same old, same old working and well, listen to
• 2:02:54
  Speaker 18: you guys on Wednesday and Friday nights.
• 2:02:57
  Speaker 4: Hell yeah, you are Joe on Facebook.
• 2:03:03
  Speaker 1: We have some good conversations.
• 2:03:05
  Speaker 16: You don't bug me, sir, No, I really appreciate what
• 2:03:09
  Speaker 16: you guys do.
• 2:03:10
  Speaker 18: I know you put a lot of work into it,
• 2:03:12
  Speaker 18: a lot of time, your own resources, and it's good
• 2:03:16
  Speaker 18: to have Joe on the YouTube version. I've been listening
• 2:03:19
  Speaker 18: to Rob Shoot. I don't know, it's been over a decade,
• 2:03:22
  Speaker 18: it seems like Rob right.
• 2:03:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you're a day one er as well, you know,
• 2:03:27
  Speaker 4: alongside a lot of these folks that have been with
• 2:03:29
  Speaker 4: me for the long haul. And you know, various iterations
• 2:03:33
  Speaker 4: of the show, uh, you know, quitting to coming back
• 2:03:37
  Speaker 4: and quitting again and coming back and quitting again and
• 2:03:39
  Speaker 4: coming back.
• 2:03:40
  Speaker 18: And when you took your break out, I was trying
• 2:03:42
  Speaker 18: to beg you back to your to the podcast and
• 2:03:45
  Speaker 18: then I had to take a break.
• 2:03:49
  Speaker 4: Sometimes over the years. You got that right, Yeah, what
• 2:03:56
  Speaker 4: is this pro prova wand super Chat. Thank you dropped
• 2:04:01
  Speaker 4: the ten ten euros on this, Joe, thank you very much.
• 2:04:05
  Speaker 4: Great to be live with you guys again. We'll welcome
• 2:04:08
  Speaker 4: back and thank you. It's great to be live with
• 2:04:11
  Speaker 4: you across the pond. Wow, holy shit. All right, Jack,
• 2:04:22
  Speaker 4: you're a permanent You're gonna be our third co host
• 2:04:24
  Speaker 4: because people are just throwing money as left and right
• 2:04:28
  Speaker 4: when you're on here, Gary Peter keep it coming, dropping
• 2:04:32
  Speaker 4: the dime on us character jumping in the air joyfully
• 2:04:35
  Speaker 4: saying yippee.
• 2:04:37
  Speaker 18: Some of these people need to just join the private.
• 2:04:40
  Speaker 4: Group, right yeah, if you if you want to become
• 2:04:44
  Speaker 4: a channel member, there's three tiers you can and I
• 2:04:49
  Speaker 4: think it's like four ninety nine a month as what
• 2:04:52
  Speaker 4: we call spook ninety nine, covert Operators and up. I
• 2:04:58
  Speaker 4: think the highest tiers is four ninety No, that's like
• 2:05:01
  Speaker 4: a super spy. That's what you are, a track super
• 2:05:05
  Speaker 4: super spy. Those are the those are the folks that
• 2:05:08
  Speaker 4: really really support the show. They get access to four
• 2:05:12
  Speaker 4: extra shows a month that we do on Wednesday evenings,
• 2:05:15
  Speaker 4: which are I'm sure Jack and attest to that are good,
• 2:05:19
  Speaker 4: right all there excellent bullshit shows. You know they're not
• 2:05:23
  Speaker 4: just time fillers.
• 2:05:26
  Speaker 1: No, yeah, no, we follow up and we uh on
• 2:05:31
  Speaker 1: things we run at a time to talk about here,
• 2:05:33
  Speaker 1: which we do almost always. We talk about current events
• 2:05:38
  Speaker 1: that maybe we don't want to talk about on this.
• 2:05:41
  Speaker 4: Channel and things going on and uh things we can
• 2:05:44
  Speaker 4: talk about on this channel.
• 2:05:46
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 2:05:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And we have a lot of fun and uh yeah.
• 2:05:51
  Speaker 1: It's four shows a month, and you get perks like
• 2:05:55
  Speaker 1: you know coming on here among others, and we're just
• 2:06:01
  Speaker 1: very grateful for all of our supporters. We couldn't do
• 2:06:04
  Speaker 1: this without you. And it's been very humbling for me
• 2:06:07
  Speaker 1: to see all these people come on and tell tell
• 2:06:10
  Speaker 1: us how much, you know, they enjoy the show and
• 2:06:13
  Speaker 1: how they look forward to it and things like that.
• 2:06:17
  Speaker 4: That's what we do it for, obviously, So Trey says,
• 2:06:20
  Speaker 4: one year ago this week, I drove to New Orleans
• 2:06:22
  Speaker 4: for a conference and then back to Dallas. I listened
• 2:06:25
  Speaker 4: to TLG episodes for the entire round trip.
• 2:06:29
  Speaker 18: Well you're lucky you didn't try it this week because
• 2:06:32
  Speaker 18: it was about a foot of snow.
• 2:06:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, So Jack, you have and you don't
• 2:06:41
  Speaker 1: have to get into this a lot, but you have
• 2:06:44
  Speaker 1: a relationship with an interesting character that comes up a
• 2:06:49
  Speaker 1: lot here, which of course is Buele, and you've had
• 2:06:53
  Speaker 1: some time to meet him in person, and just if
• 2:07:01
  Speaker 1: you want to give us like kind of broad strokes
• 2:07:03
  Speaker 1: on what your experiences were meeting.
• 2:07:06
  Speaker 18: Him talking about I've followed the you know, the JFK
• 2:07:11
  Speaker 18: assassination shoot. It's probably thirty years and I'm a big
• 2:07:15
  Speaker 18: history buff and I travel a lot, mainly in the southeast,
• 2:07:19
  Speaker 18: in the southwest Texas up through the Oklahoma kind of
• 2:07:22
  Speaker 18: that area. So whenever I would go to Dallas, I
• 2:07:25
  Speaker 18: would always try to not only go by Daily Plaza,
• 2:07:29
  Speaker 18: but just kind of go see landmarks related to the case.
• 2:07:33
  Speaker 18: I've been by Ruth Payne's house. I've been by Oswalt's
• 2:07:38
  Speaker 18: High school. I've seen his junior high in New Orleans.
• 2:07:41
  Speaker 18: I've gone by you know, the Camp Street address, Riley Coffee.
• 2:07:46
  Speaker 18: But you know, I was I was following Buil Frasier
• 2:07:49
  Speaker 18: on Facebook for a while, and this summer I just
• 2:07:53
  Speaker 18: kind of sent him a message and his son actually
• 2:07:58
  Speaker 18: called me and had about an hour conversation with him.
• 2:08:02
  Speaker 18: He was a nice guy, and I just told him
• 2:08:05
  Speaker 18: kind of my story that you know, I was like
• 2:08:08
  Speaker 18: following the case. I'm a history buff. And you know,
• 2:08:11
  Speaker 18: if I go to Dallas a few times a year,
• 2:08:13
  Speaker 18: and I'd love to meet his dad sometime, I feel
• 2:08:15
  Speaker 18: as possible. And you know, I got off the phone
• 2:08:18
  Speaker 18: with him, and the next day my cell phone rings
• 2:08:21
  Speaker 18: and I look at the tower idea it says Buell
• 2:08:23
  Speaker 18: Frasier and I about ran off the road. I'm like,
• 2:08:28
  Speaker 18: I answered the phone and had a conversation and kind
• 2:08:32
  Speaker 18: of told him the same thing, told him my story
• 2:08:34
  Speaker 18: and and that you know, I was really interested in
• 2:08:37
  Speaker 18: studying the case, and I didn't want to sound like
• 2:08:39
  Speaker 18: a conspiracy nut or anything, but just kind of had
• 2:08:44
  Speaker 18: a nice chat with him, and actually went to Dallas
• 2:08:48
  Speaker 18: this summer and contacted him and met him at a
• 2:08:51
  Speaker 18: restaurant and my wife and we just had a meal
• 2:08:56
  Speaker 18: together and just kind of had a nice chat and
• 2:09:00
  Speaker 18: he kind of told his story, and it's kind of
• 2:09:03
  Speaker 18: everything that was in his book. There wasn't anything that he,
• 2:09:06
  Speaker 18: you know, told me that you know, we didn't already
• 2:09:11
  Speaker 18: know about. But you know, just a very nice man,
• 2:09:16
  Speaker 18: nice man that I think he was just caught up
• 2:09:19
  Speaker 18: at the wrong place at the wrong time in history.
• 2:09:22
  Speaker 18: And you know, and I've told Rob this on our
• 2:09:26
  Speaker 18: chats you know, if if I was him at nineteen
• 2:09:29
  Speaker 18: years old, I've been.
• 2:09:30
  Speaker 1: Scared to death.
• 2:09:31
  Speaker 4: And you know, I agree, yeah, and as he changes,
• 2:09:37
  Speaker 4: I don't blame him for, you know, anything that he
• 2:09:40
  Speaker 4: did back then, because I probably would have done the
• 2:09:42
  Speaker 4: same thing. Everybody was. Everybody was distant, distancing themselves from
• 2:09:48
  Speaker 4: Oswald as much as classic what he's being accused of.
• 2:09:53
  Speaker 4: And you know, I don't blame him one bit, Jack.
• 2:09:58
  Speaker 18: No, no, you can't, you can. I mean, he was,
• 2:10:01
  Speaker 18: he was nineteen years old, and and but you know,
• 2:10:05
  Speaker 18: it's just been really cool getting to know him, the
• 2:10:08
  Speaker 18: text with him. He'll call me all the Blues sometimes
• 2:10:12
  Speaker 18: and uh, just a just a nice man, very cool man,
• 2:10:19
  Speaker 18: very cool. Yes, I paid for the for the meal.
• 2:10:24
  Speaker 1: Can probably offered right.
• 2:10:31
  Speaker 4: All these all that book money you just got. Yeah
• 2:10:36
  Speaker 4: you did the right thing. You buy the old man,
• 2:10:38
  Speaker 4: pay for the old man's meal for sure.
• 2:10:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's it must be so cool too,
• 2:10:45
  Speaker 1: you know, kind of sit down with someone so close
• 2:10:49
  Speaker 1: to uh, obviously the main subject we study, but just
• 2:10:52
  Speaker 1: someone so involved. And you know, when Rob tells me
• 2:10:57
  Speaker 1: about the people he talked to that have interviewed Marine
• 2:11:00
  Speaker 1: and things like that, I just I just get so jealous.
• 2:11:04
  Speaker 1: And I've tried to reach out to a few ancestors.
• 2:11:08
  Speaker 1: Their last name is Martin, not technically middle name. I
• 2:11:14
  Speaker 1: have not been successful yet, but it takes perseverance and
• 2:11:21
  Speaker 1: you know, you got to kind of stay at it
• 2:11:23
  Speaker 1: right to trust up, you know, because if we get
• 2:11:27
  Speaker 1: tired of it and need to take breaks, you can
• 2:11:29
  Speaker 1: only imagine they do. Oh yeah, they need to take
• 2:11:33
  Speaker 1: long breaks from the ship.
• 2:11:34
  Speaker 18: Well, I just talked to him about sports probably you know,
• 2:11:37
  Speaker 18: the majority of the time, and he's the one that
• 2:11:39
  Speaker 18: kind of brought it up and kind of you know,
• 2:11:42
  Speaker 18: told a story again, and it was it was just
• 2:11:45
  Speaker 18: really surreal to sit there and look at him and say,
• 2:11:48
  Speaker 18: oh god, this is Beutifray all. You know, all the
• 2:11:50
  Speaker 18: books I've read. You probably see all these books behind me,
• 2:11:53
  Speaker 18: you know, for thirty years, I don't know how many
• 2:11:56
  Speaker 18: hundreds of books I've read about it and studied it
• 2:11:59
  Speaker 18: and having done quite the research diving in as you guys,
• 2:12:04
  Speaker 18: but more of a history buff of the of the case.
• 2:12:08
  Speaker 18: But it was just really cool to meeting.
• 2:12:13
  Speaker 4: Definitely, definitely we'll keep on chipping away at him Jay,
• 2:12:16
  Speaker 4: for sure, and if he ever tells you anything, you
• 2:12:21
  Speaker 4: drag his ass right here on this show. Okay, would
• 2:12:27
  Speaker 4: love to.
• 2:12:28
  Speaker 18: Oh, thanks for having me guys.
• 2:12:30
  Speaker 4: Hey, thank you for supporting the show and being a
• 2:12:32
  Speaker 4: day warner. And we couldn't do it without people like you,
• 2:12:36
  Speaker 4: so Jack, appreciate you, brother, and have a great weekend.
• 2:12:40
  Speaker 4: Thanks for joining us this even.
• 2:12:42
  Speaker 1: Yes, thank you so much. Jack.
• 2:12:46
  Speaker 4: All Right, I see Jack boom nice.
• 2:12:50
  Speaker 1: It was very nice to have him.
• 2:12:51
  Speaker 4: Come on. Yeah, go ahead real quick.
• 2:13:02
  Speaker 1: Tiny Dancer says, I don't want to be mean, but
• 2:13:04
  Speaker 1: a lot of Trump supporters aren't so much familiar with
• 2:13:07
  Speaker 1: the small print and government documents. Government doubles speak is
• 2:13:12
  Speaker 1: a tactic to put things off with bills that have
• 2:13:15
  Speaker 1: no teeth. Yeah, and that's exactly what we were kind
• 2:13:18
  Speaker 1: of talking about with Alan Dale, and I told you,
• 2:13:21
  Speaker 1: and I wasn't just signaling out Trump supporters, but almost
• 2:13:26
  Speaker 1: everyone that's tweeting about the documents being like yay, I
• 2:13:30
  Speaker 1: guarantee you nine out of ten of them will not
• 2:13:32
  Speaker 1: go to the archives and open up one document and
• 2:13:35
  Speaker 1: read it. So it's kind of just let's get views
• 2:13:39
  Speaker 1: and interaction with my ex account. You know, I think
• 2:13:45
  Speaker 1: that's a lot of what is going on. And thank
• 2:13:49
  Speaker 1: you Timothy, I know you highlighted this, he says. Philly says, hello, y'all,
• 2:13:54
  Speaker 1: are you rooting for the Eagles this weekend? You might
• 2:13:57
  Speaker 1: have some beef with the boy here Trip will Be,
• 2:14:01
  Speaker 1: who is not a big Redskins fan, but I think
• 2:14:04
  Speaker 1: he's going to root for them over the Eagles.
• 2:14:06
  Speaker 4: Yes, the Eagles can s a d and always can
• 2:14:15
  Speaker 4: what I love you? Yeah?
• 2:14:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and yeah Neo. I don't know if you heard
• 2:14:24
  Speaker 1: me when I said this when I saw your last
• 2:14:29
  Speaker 1: when it says in your profile and why nine one
• 2:14:32
  Speaker 1: four I'm from Westchester as well, and I am in
• 2:14:36
  Speaker 1: Westchester right now actually, so I caught that right away.
• 2:14:46
  Speaker 1: And Cammy says, I'm friends with one of Garrison's daughters.
• 2:14:53
  Speaker 4: That's really interesting. Hates people looking for interviews.
• 2:14:58
  Speaker 1: That's really interesting. Uh did you send Paul the link
• 2:15:02
  Speaker 1: because he just sent me an email just nine minutes ago.
• 2:15:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I emailed him the link.
• 2:15:11
  Speaker 1: I was gonna just have maybe close it off with him.
• 2:15:16
  Speaker 4: Uh, why don't you try sending him the link?
• 2:15:19
  Speaker 1: Okay? Do you want to?
• 2:15:24
  Speaker 4: I mean, it's Paul. Well, I don't want to out
• 2:15:26
  Speaker 4: his email address here now, Just to send it to
• 2:15:29
  Speaker 4: me real quickly, Okay, I will forward you what I
• 2:15:34
  Speaker 4: sent to him, sure.
• 2:15:37
  Speaker 1: Because that that could be a quick way to uh,
• 2:15:40
  Speaker 1: to end it off here.
• 2:15:45
  Speaker 4: Tell him to check a spam folder. I don't know.
• 2:15:47
  Speaker 4: He might not be used to getting anything from the
• 2:15:48
  Speaker 4: incoming podcast.
• 2:15:49
  Speaker 1: I don't know, probably not.
• 2:15:52
  Speaker 4: I just forwarded you the email that I sent him
• 2:15:54
  Speaker 4: with the link to come in. Okay, just make sure
• 2:15:57
  Speaker 4: I got his email address, right, mhm? Have you seen it? Sorry, folks,
• 2:16:09
  Speaker 4: putting a show together like this has been I mean,
• 2:16:15
  Speaker 4: it did go the way I had it pictured in
• 2:16:17
  Speaker 4: my head, Joe kind of right, but again, you know,
• 2:16:23
  Speaker 4: I knew there was gonna be some some folks that
• 2:16:26
  Speaker 4: would kind of drop out or not be able to
• 2:16:29
  Speaker 4: do it, or not be able to get on. But
• 2:16:30
  Speaker 4: I think despite the difficulties, we did it. And I
• 2:16:37
  Speaker 4: think so too.
• 2:16:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I enjoyed seeing you know, people like Caroline,
• 2:16:43
  Speaker 1: you know, Trey and Scott. Of course I met them
• 2:16:46
  Speaker 1: in Dallas. Greg Stewart obviously super cool dude. Jeff came
• 2:16:55
  Speaker 1: on for a little bit. His kids were kind of
• 2:16:57
  Speaker 1: screaming in the background, and Alan Dale was yapping like
• 2:17:01
  Speaker 1: six barbers, so he had to go. But that was
• 2:17:04
  Speaker 1: pretty cool. It was very nice of you know, Alex
• 2:17:08
  Speaker 1: to come on as well. We we missed a few people. Tiny,
• 2:17:15
  Speaker 1: I'm looking at you, Colleen, But you know, I think
• 2:17:18
  Speaker 1: Ali Sally, yes, I think it went well enough to
• 2:17:23
  Speaker 1: do a part two at some point.
• 2:17:25
  Speaker 4: And when that is speaking of Colleen, she did send
• 2:17:30
  Speaker 4: me a message that I'll late to hear because as
• 2:17:35
  Speaker 4: you know, Colleen lives out and overgone, right, And Larry
• 2:17:39
  Speaker 4: Crayford is from Oregon and his family m h and
• 2:17:44
  Speaker 4: it's it's odds he's from Dallas, Oregon, not Dallas, Texas,
• 2:17:49
  Speaker 4: but Dallas, Oregon. Okay. She found out that his parents
• 2:17:55
  Speaker 4: lived in Dallas, Oregon, but he didn't. She says he
• 2:17:58
  Speaker 4: was living in a one horse town called Lafayette in
• 2:18:01
  Speaker 4: a different county, which is interesting. So if anybody Dallas, Oregon, yeah,
• 2:18:09
  Speaker 4: knows anything about Crayford's in Lafayette, Oregon, shoot us an
• 2:18:15
  Speaker 4: email in here to the lone Gum And if you
• 2:18:18
  Speaker 4: came across as elderly toothless gentleman named Larry in Lafayette, Oregon.
• 2:18:26
  Speaker 9: Uh.
• 2:18:28
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but it's interesting getting getting to know some of
• 2:18:31
  Speaker 4: these people. Paula Jane just became a super spy God
• 2:18:36
  Speaker 4: bless you, Paula, Oh, bless your heart. I love you.
• 2:18:41
  Speaker 4: Thanks for upgrading, Thank you, thank you, thank you. That
• 2:18:45
  Speaker 4: is awesome. But you know, we had people on here,
• 2:18:48
  Speaker 4: like a Janet Banister that you come across that are
• 2:18:52
  Speaker 4: related to these people that are notorious in this case.
• 2:18:57
  Speaker 4: And you know, whether it be a daughter, a son,
• 2:19:01
  Speaker 4: a nephew and niece of these people, you know, this
• 2:19:05
  Speaker 4: kind of thing still touches their family, that carries on
• 2:19:09
  Speaker 4: that family name, that legacy, the family stories about all
• 2:19:14
  Speaker 4: these people, or the stuff that you never hear about.
• 2:19:17
  Speaker 4: And that's why I think having people on like that
• 2:19:20
  Speaker 4: that want to talk about it, you know, like Janet
• 2:19:25
  Speaker 4: is invaluable and gives you a window into you know,
• 2:19:29
  Speaker 4: the private lives of who these real people were, you know.
• 2:19:33
  Speaker 4: I mean, you can read about these folks all the time,
• 2:19:35
  Speaker 4: but to know and hear from people that actually knew
• 2:19:40
  Speaker 4: them intimately are related to them. There's always family stories
• 2:19:45
  Speaker 4: and family lord that are much different.
• 2:19:49
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 2:19:49
  Speaker 4: Like if we were to find Rachel Oswald and she
• 2:19:52
  Speaker 4: would come on the show and do an interview with us,
• 2:19:54
  Speaker 4: I'm sure life from her perspective, would you know, maybe
• 2:20:00
  Speaker 4: change your mind about a lot of things. And I
• 2:20:04
  Speaker 4: don't know why June and Rachel I have been silent
• 2:20:10
  Speaker 4: for so long about their father, you know, if they
• 2:20:14
  Speaker 4: believe that he's innocent.
• 2:20:18
  Speaker 1: I just think they look at it from a what's
• 2:20:21
  Speaker 1: to be gained at this point.
• 2:20:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and you know they also now have kids to
• 2:20:26
  Speaker 4: worry about and things like that, and Marina's got grandkids,
• 2:20:30
  Speaker 4: and you know, the Oswald name has been dragged through
• 2:20:33
  Speaker 4: the mud for so much sixty some years. You know,
• 2:20:38
  Speaker 4: like I said, unless something comes out definitively proving otherwise,
• 2:20:46
  Speaker 4: I don't think we'll be hearing from them.
• 2:20:47
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 2:20:48
  Speaker 4: I think something would to come out tomorrow where, you know,
• 2:20:51
  Speaker 4: something could prove that it wasn't Oswald up there in
• 2:20:55
  Speaker 4: the sixth floor window, that maybe people like that would
• 2:20:58
  Speaker 4: come out and speak out more like, yeah, you know,
• 2:21:01
  Speaker 4: we told you so, we finally clear our family name,
• 2:21:04
  Speaker 4: you know, and move on and write history and right
• 2:21:07
  Speaker 4: the wrongs. But we'll just have to see, you know,
• 2:21:13
  Speaker 4: and hopefully these damn files come out, the rest of them.
• 2:21:18
  Speaker 4: But again, like I said, I don't think there's gonna
• 2:21:19
  Speaker 4: be any smoking guns in there. There is something in
• 2:21:21
  Speaker 4: there that they don't want us to see or else
• 2:21:22
  Speaker 4: they would have released them already, right, there's somebody's whether
• 2:21:28
  Speaker 4: it's somebody's name or or what it is, I don't know,
• 2:21:32
  Speaker 4: but it'll be interesting either way. I've gotten, uh Joe,
• 2:21:37
  Speaker 4: I got already today one one one request to go
• 2:21:41
  Speaker 4: back a few times and talk about the file releases
• 2:21:48
  Speaker 4: I've had. I mean, I got bombarded. When I woke
• 2:21:51
  Speaker 4: up this morning, I had all these messages. I'm like,
• 2:21:52
  Speaker 4: what the hell happened? What the hell happened yesterday? You
• 2:21:56
  Speaker 4: know that. I was like, oh, he signed an executive order. Okay,
• 2:22:00
  Speaker 4: all right, well here we go.
• 2:22:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I got. I definitely got a lot
• 2:22:06
  Speaker 1: of them too. And it's just funny to see like
• 2:22:09
  Speaker 1: all the main quote mainstream and the social media mainstream
• 2:22:15
  Speaker 1: pick up on the story that we've been following for
• 2:22:19
  Speaker 1: so long, and it, you know, being a contrarian, I'm
• 2:22:23
  Speaker 1: just it makes me less optimistic seeing all the people
• 2:22:30
  Speaker 1: like Tiny said that don't really understand the process ouh
• 2:22:34
  Speaker 1: and things like that. Although listen, it's great news. We've
• 2:22:39
  Speaker 1: been wanting this for a while, and like Allen Dale
• 2:22:44
  Speaker 1: said in the beginning of the show, we will definitely
• 2:22:45
  Speaker 1: see what happens. Let's see, Oh Neo said he's from Yonkers.
• 2:22:53
  Speaker 1: I'm from Mount Vernon, which is the town next to her,
• 2:22:57
  Speaker 1: So you have a local reason to uh to hang
• 2:23:04
  Speaker 1: out in the future. Greg Stewart is going for the Skins,
• 2:23:08
  Speaker 1: all right. I like that. I guess Trey is.
• 2:23:11
  Speaker 4: To call them the Goddamn Commanders.
• 2:23:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Jayden Daniels the rookie quarterback of course, crushing it.
• 2:23:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it seems like, you know, it just seems like
• 2:23:26
  Speaker 4: throwing one of his destiny type runs. You know what
• 2:23:28
  Speaker 4: I'm saying. We'll see.
• 2:23:34
  Speaker 1: Oh, I'm sorry. Uh, Cammy is a guy. If I
• 2:23:39
  Speaker 1: might have miss gendered you, so I apologize.
• 2:23:44
  Speaker 4: Using his wife's names.
• 2:23:47
  Speaker 1: That's great.
• 2:23:49
  Speaker 4: There you go, NICs cover.
• 2:23:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I was, and we were going to plan to
• 2:23:54
  Speaker 1: have my girlfriend come on and to ask her a
• 2:23:57
  Speaker 1: couple of questions. She didn't want to be on video
• 2:24:01
  Speaker 1: and just ask her what her take is on the
• 2:24:04
  Speaker 1: podcast the JFK Assassination in general. But she has a fever.
• 2:24:09
  Speaker 4: Is a special guest to say, we have a special guest,
• 2:24:13
  Speaker 4: your girlfriend, Erica, welcome to the show.
• 2:24:16
  Speaker 1: What do you think happened? But she has a fever
• 2:24:21
  Speaker 1: and she is watching Ruby, So all right, Well, we
• 2:24:25
  Speaker 1: were waiting for one guest, I have a fever and
• 2:24:31
  Speaker 1: that was a Paul blow of the Chokeholds book. I
• 2:24:35
  Speaker 1: met him at Lancer for the last two years, he's
• 2:24:37
  Speaker 1: been doing a lot of good work on document awareness
• 2:24:40
  Speaker 1: and the releases for months and months and months before this,
• 2:24:44
  Speaker 1: they went to take a trip to the archives before
• 2:24:47
  Speaker 1: Lancer and then came to Lancer and talked about that.
• 2:24:53
  Speaker 1: I had been emailing with him, but I don't want
• 2:24:55
  Speaker 1: to fill a buster for too long, so hopefully maybe
• 2:24:59
  Speaker 1: we'll have a mom in the link. Yes I did.
• 2:25:02
  Speaker 4: Okay, so we're trying I don't know.
• 2:25:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's okay. I'm sure he's been trying to We've
• 2:25:09
  Speaker 1: come back and forth a few times. But since we're
• 2:25:13
  Speaker 1: almost two and a half in, so let's just uh
• 2:25:16
  Speaker 1: get some final message.
• 2:25:18
  Speaker 2: Guy.
• 2:25:18
  Speaker 4: We can do a full show with in the future,
• 2:25:20
  Speaker 4: you know. Yeah, yeah, for sure, I say a lot
• 2:25:22
  Speaker 4: of these people we could do a full show within
• 2:25:25
  Speaker 4: the future. We just wanted to have a crazy ass
• 2:25:27
  Speaker 4: show where we bring people on for five or ten minutes,
• 2:25:30
  Speaker 4: let them go on their way, and just keep rotating
• 2:25:32
  Speaker 4: people in and out, listeners, swinging Dicks Day one members,
• 2:25:40
  Speaker 4: you know, things like that, because it's always cool because,
• 2:25:44
  Speaker 4: like I said, Joe got to meet a lot of
• 2:25:45
  Speaker 4: these people in person, went in Dallas, and of course,
• 2:25:48
  Speaker 4: you know, it's always good to put a face with
• 2:25:51
  Speaker 4: the name rather than just a nameless, faceless person in
• 2:25:55
  Speaker 4: the chat. But it's great to finally meet a lot
• 2:25:58
  Speaker 4: of you folks face to for the first time for me,
• 2:26:03
  Speaker 4: and I'm sure Joe loves seeing everybody again as well
• 2:26:08
  Speaker 4: for me. Yeah yeah, And thank you to all the
• 2:26:12
  Speaker 4: guests that that gave us their time this evening to
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  Speaker 4: hang out for a little while, whether it be some
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  Speaker 4: some old, some new, and we did I did. I
• 2:26:21
  Speaker 4: was messaging Seamus Coogan for like the past two days.
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  Speaker 4: He is my first ever guest on the Lonengoming podcast
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  Speaker 4: that is still alive. Okay, I think the first one
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  Speaker 4: I had on Joe was Dennis David.
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  Speaker 9: Right.
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  Speaker 4: He was a Navy He was in the Navy, and
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  Speaker 4: he was at Bethesda Hospital when JFK's casket arrived. So
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  Speaker 4: when you're talking about swinging dicks, this guy was an
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  Speaker 4: old school, you know, Navy guy who was at Bethesda
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  Speaker 4: when they brought JFK's casket there.
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  Speaker 1: Wow.
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  Speaker 4: And his story is two caskets showed up. Yeah, okay,
• 2:27:10
  Speaker 4: but that's.
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  Speaker 1: The wow, wow, James, that is not a truce at all.
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• 2:27:21
  Speaker 1: that it's much easier to become a member when you
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  Speaker 1: go on your laptop to the Lone Gunman YouTube.
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  Speaker 4: YouTube on your browser. Do not use the app for
• 2:27:33
  Speaker 4: whatever reason or your browser. Okay, yeah, for some reason.
• 2:27:37
  Speaker 4: If you use the app, the joint button just doesn't
• 2:27:40
  Speaker 4: show up if you're already subscribed.
• 2:27:43
  Speaker 1: But it's weird.
• 2:27:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah, on the on the web page, like if you
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  Speaker 4: go on your laptop or on your iPad to the
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  Speaker 4: website where you would normally see the subscribe button, if
• 2:27:55
  Speaker 4: you're already subscribed, it should say join and if you
• 2:27:59
  Speaker 4: click the button, that's where you can become a member.
• 2:28:03
  Speaker 4: And if you're not subscribed already, what are you doing?
• 2:28:05
  Speaker 4: But uh, you'll see this. Once you click the subscribe button,
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  Speaker 4: it should change then to a join button and that's
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  Speaker 4: where you can join to become a member of the
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  Speaker 4: various levels where you get four extra shows a month
• 2:28:20
  Speaker 4: and an extra show every week we do on Wednesday nights. There's,
• 2:28:25
  Speaker 4: like Joe said, there's stuff we can't talk about here
• 2:28:27
  Speaker 4: that we can talk about there because we don't monetize
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  Speaker 4: that at all. There should be no commercials in it
• 2:28:32
  Speaker 4: at all, and it's kind of a low key thing
• 2:28:36
  Speaker 4: and it's just for COVID operators and above type of
• 2:28:40
  Speaker 4: thing that the hardcores and people dig it. People love it.
• 2:28:43
  Speaker 4: We don't mail it in on Wednesday nights. You know,
• 2:28:46
  Speaker 4: it's it's it's a full show, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 4: So if that's something you guys are interested in, And
• 2:28:52
  Speaker 4: like I said, we appreciate all the super chats, superstickers
• 2:28:55
  Speaker 4: that folks have given us. It's been a great night
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  Speaker 4: for sure.
• 2:29:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Trey says, we could have more ladies on the show. Well,
• 2:29:03
  Speaker 1: we had to cancel to do Wi Fi and weather,
• 2:29:06
  Speaker 1: I believe.
• 2:29:07
  Speaker 4: So three.
• 2:29:09
  Speaker 1: Next time.
• 2:29:11
  Speaker 4: We're trying to get Tiny and Sally on here. Yeah.
• 2:29:15
  Speaker 1: Well, we actually have a pretty good ratio. We have
• 2:29:18
  Speaker 1: a lot of women in the chat consistently, yeah, every week,
• 2:29:22
  Speaker 1: but it didn't work.
• 2:29:23
  Speaker 4: Out to them. When you when you look at the
• 2:29:26
  Speaker 4: stats of the show, you know they have like your
• 2:29:30
  Speaker 4: audience or whatever break down in like the YouTube studio
• 2:29:33
  Speaker 4: statistics it's like nine men listen, but in the chat
• 2:29:40
  Speaker 4: it's like fifty to fifty. Most of the time you
• 2:29:44
  Speaker 4: have just as many females as you do males, which
• 2:29:46
  Speaker 4: is which is very cool.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, James said, I did not know this. When he
• 2:29:52
  Speaker 1: was an extra in the JFK movie, he met a
• 2:29:55
  Speaker 1: lot of people in Daly Plaza scene who were portraying
• 2:29:58
  Speaker 1: their parents or were positioned to in the same places.
• 2:30:02
  Speaker 1: Very interesting.
• 2:30:03
  Speaker 4: I know you had.
• 2:30:06
  Speaker 1: Was it hemming on the sixth floor? Yeah, and then
• 2:30:10
  Speaker 1: you have like other was it her graves or someone
• 2:30:14
  Speaker 1: else advising? Yeah, and you gotta you gotta laugh at
• 2:30:20
  Speaker 1: that irony from at least our perspective. But that is
• 2:30:24
  Speaker 1: really cool, James. We'll definitely have to get that story
• 2:30:26
  Speaker 1: a different all.
• 2:30:27
  Speaker 4: It just said, uh, you can click perks on your
• 2:30:31
  Speaker 4: app on your phone on YouTube. That's how she upgraded.
• 2:30:36
  Speaker 4: I'm a techno loser and I did it. We're techno
• 2:30:39
  Speaker 4: losers too. Paula said, thank you for that information. That
• 2:30:43
  Speaker 4: may work as well, and but bam, Perpetual Concepts comes
• 2:30:49
  Speaker 4: in drops the dime on us. Joe, I look terrible
• 2:30:52
  Speaker 4: in drags. Sorry, that's okay. Hey, we don't discriminate around here,
• 2:30:57
  Speaker 4: you do you PC?
• 2:31:00
  Speaker 1: Thank you, sir, Thank you, sir. I hope you were
• 2:31:03
  Speaker 1: able to still get some golf in these days in
• 2:31:07
  Speaker 1: the winter.
• 2:31:09
  Speaker 4: But we were gonna kick off the show actually Trey
• 2:31:14
  Speaker 4: with Bart Camp and Sally since they're overseas, but something
• 2:31:23
  Speaker 4: came up with Bart. He had a really long day
• 2:31:25
  Speaker 4: and then he's got a short night. He has to
• 2:31:27
  Speaker 4: go back in and he didn't have time. But so
• 2:31:31
  Speaker 4: you know, we'll have Bart back at a later date.
• 2:31:33
  Speaker 4: We can do a whole show with Bart. We can
• 2:31:35
  Speaker 4: do a whole show with Alan and just ask him
• 2:31:37
  Speaker 4: a question and turn him on and let him go
• 2:31:39
  Speaker 4: for an hour. We don't have to say anything. You know.
• 2:31:43
  Speaker 4: I love Alan to death, and he is one of
• 2:31:45
  Speaker 4: the smartest dudes when it comes to the JFK stuff,
• 2:31:48
  Speaker 4: and he has got all the right contacts, all the
• 2:31:52
  Speaker 4: right friends, all the right information, and he's just one
• 2:31:55
  Speaker 4: of them guys you can just sit there and just
• 2:31:57
  Speaker 4: listen to him talk for hours and you know, and
• 2:32:01
  Speaker 4: he's one of the nicest human beings on the planet
• 2:32:04
  Speaker 4: as well. I mean, he'll do anything to help you out.
• 2:32:08
  Speaker 4: Like I said, I email him and he was like, sure, absolutely,
• 2:32:12
  Speaker 4: when do you need me? You know type of guy.
• 2:32:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I haven't checked our likes but we've been averaging
• 2:32:21
  Speaker 1: about fifty a show, so if we only have four
• 2:32:23
  Speaker 1: right now, guys, hit that like button. We got to
• 2:32:27
  Speaker 1: defeat the algo here. But Paul has also been having
• 2:32:32
  Speaker 1: some issues getting in with the link, so we'll I
• 2:32:35
  Speaker 1: just got an email from him, so well, we'll fix
• 2:32:39
  Speaker 1: that out at a different time.
• 2:32:40
  Speaker 4: But maybe the cover art scared him away. Maybe they
• 2:32:45
  Speaker 4: didn't want to get p Diddy. I don't know.
• 2:32:49
  Speaker 1: I don't think so. I he was trying for a
• 2:32:53
  Speaker 1: little bit, So well, we'll have to figure out those
• 2:32:57
  Speaker 1: kinks next time. But I think all in all of
• 2:32:59
  Speaker 1: when very well, and I want to thank everyone that
• 2:33:02
  Speaker 1: gave the effort to come on and to hang with
• 2:33:05
  Speaker 1: us here. Oh Tra says thirty one likes. That's more
• 2:33:08
  Speaker 1: like it. But uh yeah, if you're watching this on replay,
• 2:33:15
  Speaker 1: definitely please give that a like. And we will see
• 2:33:21
  Speaker 1: the members next Wednesday and everyone else that's coming in
• 2:33:28
  Speaker 1: a week from now on Friday Night topic TBD.
• 2:33:35
  Speaker 4: That's all right, PC, go back and watch it on replay.
• 2:33:39
  Speaker 4: It's all good. It was a wild one. It was
• 2:33:41
  Speaker 4: a crazy one. My brain is melting as we speak.
• 2:33:47
  Speaker 4: It's a lot of work to do this kind of
• 2:33:50
  Speaker 4: a show on like two days. Notice, I think when
• 2:33:55
  Speaker 4: we agreed on it Wednesday night, what we're going to
• 2:33:57
  Speaker 4: do and then try to reach out to all these
• 2:34:00
  Speaker 4: people and and get them to answer in a timely uh,
• 2:34:04
  Speaker 4: in a timely manner.
• 2:34:06
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 2:34:08
  Speaker 4: You know, it's crazy, you know, but I think it
• 2:34:12
  Speaker 4: went well for what it was. I think, uh, you know,
• 2:34:17
  Speaker 4: it could have been a one a one. Like I said,
• 2:34:21
  Speaker 4: I sent Filipa and a link because I saw him
• 2:34:26
  Speaker 4: in the chat and I had actually reached out to
• 2:34:28
  Speaker 4: him yesterday as well. Let's see if he wanted to
• 2:34:32
  Speaker 4: pop in, but I guess he did not, So that's okay.
• 2:34:38
  Speaker 4: Like I said, it's all good, no hard feelings, and
• 2:34:41
  Speaker 4: uh for all the folks that we're trying to get
• 2:34:43
  Speaker 4: in here or couldn't make it, we still love you
• 2:34:47
  Speaker 4: and uh you know, keep being there for us, and
• 2:34:50
  Speaker 4: we'll keep being here for you. So Joe, without.
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  Speaker 16: Further ado no room, no ruby, no ruby no will
• 2:35:01
  Speaker 16: also be whenever she hears Dino the song come on,
• 2:35:04
  Speaker 16: her head comes up because I think she knows like, oh,
• 2:35:08
  Speaker 16: I'm gonna get picked up and made to dance.
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  Speaker 4: Now dance, munky dance, thank you go Crazy one till
• 2:35:35
  Speaker 4: we got.
• 2:35:37
  Speaker 12: The greatest lies are told the name of the truth,
• 2:35:39
  Speaker 12: the greatest crimes are committed in the name of justice.
• 2:35:42
  Speaker 1: The quotation is Jim Garrison's.
• 2:35:44
  Speaker 6: It could be used for him or against him in this.
• 2:35:47
  Speaker 4: Strangest case for showing up out James, what's the fund
• 2:35:54
  Speaker 4: of crazy? Look?
• 2:36:00
  Speaker 1: Who will come?
• 2:36:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah, we can always do a part two later for
• 2:36:10
  Speaker 4: all that couldn't get in or tried to get in,
• 2:36:13
  Speaker 4: or or couldn't get on. We can always do this
• 2:36:15
  Speaker 4: again in a couple a couple of weeks or months
• 2:36:18
  Speaker 4: or something. We'll figure it out, promise peace. Guys, thanks
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  Speaker 4: for hanging
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  Speaker 1: Pea pees.