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Ep. 44: Reacting to Week 11 Win Is the Offense Back on Track Jags A.M. Podcast · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: Welcome into jags Am Today, presented by Carshield. It's Victory
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  Speaker 1: Monday and Ka Nannie Stevens, Brian Sexton and John Osier
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  Speaker 1: are with me today as we recap a win that
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  Speaker 1: the Jaguars desperately needed as they took down the Titan
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  Speaker 1: yesterday thirty four to fourteen. It's over our big things today.
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  Speaker 1: Big thing one is willpower. This team has been desperately
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  Speaker 1: looking for a big day on offense and they got
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  Speaker 1: that Yesterday. Wasn't always flashy, but they had flash points.
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  Speaker 1: They were methodical, they calculated and Doug really had a
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  Speaker 1: lot of confidence in his offense yesterday.
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  Speaker 2: I thought Trevor played played extremely well obviously, you know,
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  Speaker 2: bounced back from last week and put together a good
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  Speaker 2: performance rand the ball, you know, two rushing touchdo I
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  Speaker 2: think two rushing touchdowns right today, did a great job.
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  Speaker 2: You know, saw the field of extremely well. I thought
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  Speaker 2: offensive line you know, protected him well, and it was
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  Speaker 2: good to get Zay back as well. But overall, Trevor,
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  Speaker 2: Trevor played really well today.
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  Speaker 1: Brian, We've been waiting for a day like this to
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  Speaker 1: come back and kind of see a big performance from
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  Speaker 1: the offense.
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  Speaker 3: What did you see out of Trevor Lawrence.
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  Speaker 4: You know, look on that drive in particular, when the
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  Speaker 4: Jaguars faced fourth down, you could see the look in
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  Speaker 4: Doug Peterson's eye on the sideline. He just just stay
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  Speaker 4: we're going, We're not gonna We're not gonna stop and
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  Speaker 4: start like they did there at the end of the
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  Speaker 4: first half and settle for field goals in the red zone.
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  Speaker 4: And then they hit the fourth down play for thirty
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  Speaker 4: four yards. And then on first and goal from the
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  Speaker 4: sixth Trevor Lawrence trying to get to the outside on
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  Speaker 4: a quick run slips and you can see the disgust
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  Speaker 4: in his eyes, and so the very next play, pocket collapsing,
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  Speaker 4: pressure coming, he got to the outside and raced to
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  Speaker 4: the pylon to beat Jeffrey Simmons for the touchdown. It
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  Speaker 4: just felt like that series and those two plays in particular,
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  Speaker 4: were Doug and Trevor willing this offense to find some
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  Speaker 4: rhythm and the rest of the way they have it.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, of the many reasons why Doug's coaching this team,
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  Speaker 5: and I'm not that play fourth and four they had
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  Speaker 5: a thirteen point lead. I'm in the press box saying,
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  Speaker 5: Doug just don't give them an opportunity. Well, it kickstarted
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  Speaker 5: the offense, and Doug clearly believes going forward in those situations.
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  Speaker 5: There's some fans who get really angry at him for
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  Speaker 5: doing it, going for it in those situations.
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  Speaker 6: He talked afterward of.
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  Speaker 5: The confidence that he gives the team, of the momentum
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  Speaker 5: gives the team.
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  Speaker 6: He believes that.
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  Speaker 5: Overall, making it helps you far more over the course
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  Speaker 5: of a season than the times where you don't make it.
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  Speaker 6: He's aggressive, it's his nature.
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  Speaker 1: Our big thing Number two today is going to be
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  Speaker 1: plus two. We've talked about the turnover issues for this
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  Speaker 1: team the last couple of weeks. That certainly hurt them
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  Speaker 1: against the forty nine ers, but they were pretty good
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  Speaker 1: yesterday and they were able to force some turnovers as well,
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  Speaker 1: which we know is a huge part of their defense,
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  Speaker 1: but also being smart with the football and offense.
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  Speaker 2: That was just something I felt at that time just
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  Speaker 2: to kind of keep we were moving the ball. Felt
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  Speaker 2: good about it again. You know, it's when when I
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  Speaker 2: show confidence in the team and they respawn like that,
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  Speaker 2: it just it just breeds confidence in them.
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  Speaker 1: So I've got a ton of confidence in the offense
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  Speaker 1: to go for things on fourth down or in certain
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  Speaker 1: positions in the game. But also they were smart with
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  Speaker 1: the football, John, And that's something we've been harping on
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  Speaker 1: for weeks, that they needed to not turn the ball over.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: I got an email from somebody saying, hey, you know,
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  Speaker 5: analyzing this game and saying that the team that wins,
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  Speaker 5: the team that wins the turnover battle is going to
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  Speaker 5: win the game.
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  Speaker 6: In that like saying the team with the most points
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  Speaker 6: is going to win the game.
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  Speaker 5: Well, ha ha, But on this team, in this season,
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  Speaker 5: the turnover thing has been the thing. And if you
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  Speaker 5: think about it, Brian, in that game yesterday, the Titans
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  Speaker 5: have momentum and they have two big plays. All of
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  Speaker 5: a sudden, they fumbled the ball. They was down on
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  Speaker 5: score the second turnover. The game was probably out of
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  Speaker 5: reach anyway. But that first turn and the fact that
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  Speaker 5: the Jaguars I thought they took a page in the
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  Speaker 5: first half, Brian, Every possession.
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  Speaker 6: That ends in a kick is a good possession. Yeah,
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  Speaker 6: they got.
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  Speaker 5: To the red zone, they got a touchdown early, and
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  Speaker 5: they wanted to score touchdowns, but they wanted to get points.
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  Speaker 5: I thought they played that smart. Don't make mistakes. It's
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  Speaker 5: what's killed you so far this season.
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  Speaker 4: Well, it wasn't just the fumble that they recovered, right,
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  Speaker 4: it was the two dropped interceptions that they had jumping
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  Speaker 4: routes on Will Levis. They were very aggressive, they just
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  Speaker 4: didn't pull those in good right, I mean, you know,
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  Speaker 4: get after the ball. I look, this morning, the Jaguars
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  Speaker 4: were tied for the league lead with twenty takeaways, back
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  Speaker 4: on top where they belonged. More importantly, that seventeen number,
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  Speaker 4: seventeen giveaways, which is tied for the fourth most in
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  Speaker 4: the NFL. Right now, that number is still seventeen. That's
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  Speaker 4: the really important part. This team has to protect the football.
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  Speaker 4: Every team does, but ray Sean Jenkins told us last
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  Speaker 4: week kai that the heartbeat of this defense is that
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  Speaker 4: ball hawking aggressive to take the ball away, give it
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  Speaker 4: back to Trevor and good field position and end other
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  Speaker 4: teams momentum like John alluded to on that Titans drive.
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  Speaker 4: And they got it done yesterday. And they got it
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  Speaker 4: done once. They should have gotten done twice. And of
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  Speaker 4: course we got to give Ross Madison credit. What a
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  Speaker 4: great play for the long snapper. And if you go
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  Speaker 4: back and watch it, he has to go way out
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  Speaker 4: to the left and come all the way back to
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  Speaker 4: the right side of the field and then just as
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  Speaker 4: he's going to the ground, he rips it out. Most
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  Speaker 4: guys would just be happy pulling the guy to the
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  Speaker 4: ground and then he immediately is up there to recover it. Hey,
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  Speaker 4: we don't talk about the long snapper on this show
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  Speaker 4: very much. They'll talk about long snappers on many shows.
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  Speaker 4: Congratulations to Ross Madison as a hell of a play.
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely the best guy.
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  Speaker 1: He deserves it as well, and you know he loved that,
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  Speaker 1: loved his celebration as well. I think he couldn't have
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  Speaker 1: been waiting to spike that football for quite some time.
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  Speaker 1: So happy for Ross. Our final big thing today is
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  Speaker 1: going to be bigger in Texas. Daigars definitely needed that
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  Speaker 1: win yesterday to get back on track. It was a
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  Speaker 1: big division win. But next week is going to be
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  Speaker 1: even bigger of a matchup as they go in to
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  Speaker 1: Houston take on team that already beat them, blew them
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  Speaker 1: out in the years.
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  Speaker 3: They're gonna look to get a win against them on
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  Speaker 3: the road.
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  Speaker 6: We needed this one.
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  Speaker 7: And we needed a win like this.
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  Speaker 8: But that's the when when I said last week, man,
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  Speaker 8: when everybody do their job, man, and they.
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  Speaker 6: Just want to go out there and perform.
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  Speaker 8: We could beat into two in the nest Pole League,
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  Speaker 8: and that's the confidence that we have within ourselves. First, Homo,
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  Speaker 8: So you know next week is is an even bigger
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  Speaker 8: game than this week. So that's a great team. And
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  Speaker 8: I know in the past that you know Tennessee, I mean,
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  Speaker 8: Texans and Jaguars don't really mix. But we're gonna have
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  Speaker 8: to go there there our handle business and we got
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  Speaker 8: a great team over there, and we're excited to play them.
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  Speaker 1: I think Josh Allen says, the Texans and the Jaguars
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  Speaker 1: don't mix. How are they gonna get things done next week?
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  Speaker 4: Well, they don't mix because the Texans have owned the
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  Speaker 4: series since they came to the league in two thousand
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  Speaker 4: and two. Here's the number that matters for you. Ready,
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  Speaker 4: we talked about takeaways. The Jaguars have twenty. They got
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  Speaker 4: one two yesterday, defense got one, Special teams got one
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  Speaker 4: all of a sudden. CJ. Stroud even though they're winning,
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  Speaker 4: even though he's clearly the offensive rookie of the year
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  Speaker 4: and maybe an MVP can it depending on where the
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  Speaker 4: end their season. He's turned the ball over six times
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  Speaker 4: in the last two weeks. He's starting to do some
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  Speaker 4: things that rookies do. He's got four interceptions and he's
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  Speaker 4: lost two fumbles. He is a good football player with
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  Speaker 4: the ability. I think John to be a great quarterback
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  Speaker 4: in this league. But he's still only played ten games.
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  Speaker 4: The Jaguars appear to be back on target. You got
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  Speaker 4: to go take the ball away from him, and he's
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  Speaker 4: been willing to give it up the last couple of weeks.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, he's really good. He's gonna get better.
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  Speaker 5: There's been a little bit of a talk among Jaguars
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  Speaker 5: fans the last three weeks that this guy's Brady Manning
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  Speaker 5: and Rodgers put together.
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  Speaker 6: He's not that yet. So I agree with you.
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  Speaker 5: They are gonna be opportunities for the Jags. I think
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  Speaker 5: with the Jags will hit on more this week in preparation. Yes,
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  Speaker 5: it was a twenty point game that last game, but
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  Speaker 5: it doesn't feel like the Texans are any way twenty
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  Speaker 5: points better. Jagos gave up two long touchdowns essentially touchdowns
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  Speaker 5: on bad miscommunications in the secondary and a weird kickoff return. Uh,
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  Speaker 5: these teams are even I mean Jagsuars are gonna be favored. Uh,
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  Speaker 5: the Jaguars need to play like they're even and not
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  Speaker 5: think that the Texans are a better team.
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  Speaker 6: Than they are.
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  Speaker 3: Certainly be a big game.
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna get into that later in the week, but
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  Speaker 1: stay with us here on JAGSA. I'm coming up after
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  Speaker 1: the break. We're gonna go over the highlights from yesterday's
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  Speaker 1: win over the Titans.
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  Speaker 3: Move the freight, Move the freight.
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  Speaker 2: You know we are explosive offense, explosive players, and we
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  Speaker 2: know that we have a lot of you know, players
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  Speaker 2: that can make plays.
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  Speaker 6: And like I said, we just got to be in
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  Speaker 6: those moments and own the moment. And when when when,
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  Speaker 6: no matter who we plan against, you just.
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  Speaker 4: Gotta do that.
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  Speaker 1: When when when we finally saw some action the offense right,
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  Speaker 1: a little bit of everything. Calvin Ridley got involved, which
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  Speaker 1: we've all been dying to see what he's capable of.
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  Speaker 1: And I felt like the offense we were hoping to see
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  Speaker 1: in the preseason, we knew they could be, they just
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  Speaker 1: hadn't quite gotten there yet.
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  Speaker 4: We're not going to show one of these plays or
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  Speaker 4: either release plays probably on highlights. So let me just
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  Speaker 4: tell you the two that I thought best exemplified the
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  Speaker 4: offense yesterday. Third quarter, the second drive or the second
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  Speaker 4: touchdown drive for Ridley. Right, you have an eleven yard
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  Speaker 4: run by Travis Etn and on the very next play
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  Speaker 4: you can see the safeties creeping up towards the line
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  Speaker 4: of scrimmage. Next play twenty six yards on the Titan
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  Speaker 4: side line to Calvin Ridley. That's what this offense is used,
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  Speaker 4: the run to set up the deep shots. And of
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  Speaker 4: course I think the Jaguars average nine nine point three
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  Speaker 4: yards per attempt yesterday, which is a significant increase from
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  Speaker 4: where they had been. The running game and play action
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  Speaker 4: sets up everything for this team and gives them the
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  Speaker 4: opportunity to be that downfield offense that I think we
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  Speaker 4: all have been waiting for.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I thought I talked about the defense at the
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  Speaker 5: top of the show is I thought the defense.
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  Speaker 6: Shouting the Titans.
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  Speaker 5: Out while the jag Wars sort of got things going
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  Speaker 5: in the first half was really big because had the
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  Speaker 5: defense given a couple of touchdowns then all of a
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  Speaker 5: sudden at halftime, at the offenses, you know, not getting
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  Speaker 5: three touchdowns in the red zone would have really felt
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  Speaker 5: like you're tight. I thought that enabled the Jaguars to
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  Speaker 5: come out and play loose in the second half and
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  Speaker 5: free and sort of get I guess where they wanted
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  Speaker 5: to go.
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  Speaker 6: I think the story of the game was the offensive line.
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  Speaker 5: After a disastrous performance against San Francisco, for them to
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  Speaker 5: come out and play well against a defensive front. I'm
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  Speaker 5: not gonna say it's a good to San Francisco, but
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  Speaker 5: if San Francisco is here, that doesn't mean Tennessee's here.
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  Speaker 4: Well pretty good. He's one of the best three or
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  Speaker 4: four defensive linemen.
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  Speaker 5: In the game, and he showed it in a few spots,
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  Speaker 5: but he didn't dominate the game. And I thought the
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  Speaker 5: jag Wars offensive line, let's be honest, because Trevor could move,
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  Speaker 5: it helped everything, and it looked.
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  Speaker 6: A lot more like the offense we thought it would.
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  Speaker 1: And you could see the comfort, how much comfort that
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  Speaker 1: Trevor kind of had in the pocket. We didn't see
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  Speaker 1: a lot of that last week, and he looked a
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  Speaker 1: lot more comfortable this week, or at least trusting of
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  Speaker 1: the linemen around him. Let's go over some of these highlights,
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  Speaker 1: because early on we had talked pregame a little bit
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  Speaker 1: about it, Brian. This defense needs to get back to
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  Speaker 1: what they do, which is forcing turnovers and getting the
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  Speaker 1: ball back right, that's their identity, stopping the run in
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  Speaker 1: forcing turnovers, and they did that early on, getting this
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  Speaker 1: extra possession for the offense because that's what they needed.
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  Speaker 4: Well, what I love here is and you can see
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  Speaker 4: it from this angle watch how as soon as Duan
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  Speaker 4: Smooth sees that the ball is out, he grabs Will
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  Speaker 4: Levis and wrenches his arm away so he can't reach
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  Speaker 4: out and pull it back in. Let me talked about
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  Speaker 4: just being aware, savvy, savvy play.
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  Speaker 1: And then the offense it was just it wasn't Flasher
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  Speaker 1: out of the gun, but it was just nice to see,
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  Speaker 1: you know, finding Kirk open Ingram getting involved Calvin.
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  Speaker 3: It was a little bit of everybody.
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  Speaker 4: Great footwork there getting the in and then of course
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  Speaker 4: that's what Calvin does.
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  Speaker 1: Excellent flilwork there. Yes, just get his feet in on
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  Speaker 1: the engine. I mean, we've been dying to see Calvin
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  Speaker 1: get a catch.
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  Speaker 3: John.
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  Speaker 1: How much in Zay open up some space for Calvin
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  Speaker 1: to that yesterday?
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  Speaker 6: Well, I think a lot.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, it's uh, I asked Christian Kirk that afterward
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  Speaker 5: and he said, look, they trust Zay. This is a
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  Speaker 5: group that believes you know, of course you believe it.
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  Speaker 5: When they have their five skill guys, meaning Ingram Ridley, Kirk,
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  Speaker 5: Jones and etn around Trevor, that's their guys. That's the
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  Speaker 5: bunch that they feel like is gonna be great with
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  Speaker 5: the receivers. They do depend on each other. I don't
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  Speaker 5: want to find this out, but I get the feeling
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  Speaker 5: that they sort of depend on Zay Jones, maybe as
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  Speaker 5: much or more as they depend on the other guys,
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  Speaker 5: even though the other guy's may be bigger names. Uh,
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  Speaker 5: Zay's a really good leader. He's really smart. He keeps
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  Speaker 5: things going on the sidelines. He's the leader of that room.
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  Speaker 5: And I think him being back drew coverage. But it
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  Speaker 5: also helps Hi the way I just talked about.
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  Speaker 4: Well, he's just so much more of a threat than
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  Speaker 4: Tim Jones, is right, or Elijah Cooks And when they
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  Speaker 4: had to fill in defense didn't play it the same way.
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  Speaker 4: When you see Za Jones and you know his body
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  Speaker 4: of work and the plays that he makes, and the
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  Speaker 4: Titans have because he's beaten him a couple of times, already.
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  Speaker 4: You can't just let him run free. And that you
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  Speaker 4: talked about spacing J Jones does a lot for the
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  Speaker 4: spacing of that offense.
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  Speaker 1: They're just a totally different offense when they have all
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  Speaker 1: the pieces in place, it seems. And also Doug Peterson,
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  Speaker 1: the way he coached them yesterday is the way.
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  Speaker 3: He always coaches them. He likes to go for on
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  Speaker 3: fourth down.
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  Speaker 1: He likes to take that risk, but calculated risk, and
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  Speaker 1: he showed tons of confidence in this team and didn't
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  Speaker 1: kind of baby them in it. He's like, no, we
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  Speaker 1: can do this and going for it. And just in
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  Speaker 1: choice moments, it was good to see I.
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  Speaker 4: Love that throw too, him getting out there, and he
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  Speaker 4: could have thrown the ball down the field further, taken
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  Speaker 4: a bigger bite of the apple and gone for Calvin
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  Speaker 4: Ridley who was down the sideline there. But that wasn't
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  Speaker 4: as good or a high percentage throw as the one
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  Speaker 4: to the earnest who ended up getting the kind of
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  Speaker 4: yardage something. It was a great decision by Trevor Well.
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  Speaker 5: It's such a game of moments this league. It still
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  Speaker 5: felt like it was on the edge this game until
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  Speaker 5: this play, and then you knew they were gonna win.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and.
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  Speaker 6: I think the offensive line played well.
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  Speaker 5: But this is another play where if you have immobile Trevor,
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  Speaker 5: this play.
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  Speaker 6: Might end right here. Yep.
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  Speaker 5: Instead it ends over here and you get thirty five yards.
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  Speaker 6: Out of it.
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  Speaker 5: It's not a coincidence that he comes out as his
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  Speaker 5: best game a couple of runs.
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  Speaker 6: He needs that mobility play.
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  Speaker 5: I'm not saying he can't win from the pocket, but
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  Speaker 5: right now he needs that as a supplement to his game.
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  Speaker 1: Let's go to Trevor's first rushing touchdown of the day,
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  Speaker 1: first of two, which was great to see. And this
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  Speaker 1: is something we've seen on and off from him. I
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  Speaker 1: know Doug had talked earlier about if he's a little
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  Speaker 1: bit limited. Didn't look limited there.
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  Speaker 4: This is the touchdown I was talking about him that
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  Speaker 4: will power off at the top of the deep things.
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  Speaker 4: You know, he gets out there and he sees Jeffrey Simmons,
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  Speaker 4: There's probably gonna be a collision at some point, and
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  Speaker 4: he just gave it all up. That to me, that's
• 15:06
  Speaker 4: where I knew that Trevor Lawrence was ready to go
• 15:09
  Speaker 4: and back the guy that we had been waiting to
• 15:11
  Speaker 4: see because that play was all him.
• 15:14
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't want to take that away from him.
• 15:16
  Speaker 5: You know, he scared me a little bit when he
• 15:19
  Speaker 5: reached that ball out of the pylon because those things
• 15:21
  Speaker 5: can end up being touched back.
• 15:23
  Speaker 6: Yeah, but at that moment, good for Trepp.
• 15:27
  Speaker 4: Look at the way that he shuffles, right, I mean
• 15:30
  Speaker 4: he's back pedaling and shuffling his feet and still looking
• 15:33
  Speaker 4: down the field before he decides to run. And he
• 15:35
  Speaker 4: talked in the post game yesterday about seeing you know,
• 15:38
  Speaker 4: the men, the man coverage flowing with the receivers back
• 15:41
  Speaker 4: to the other side, and then realizing I can go.
• 15:44
  Speaker 4: I just will power was the word yesterday. That was
• 15:48
  Speaker 4: the same drive that Doug called ford and fourth down
• 15:50
  Speaker 4: and he made the play and then he made the
• 15:51
  Speaker 4: play there. I'm excited to see him play this next Sunday,
• 15:54
  Speaker 4: see if he can keep this momentum going.
• 15:55
  Speaker 6: And right now he needs this in his game.
• 15:58
  Speaker 5: Yes, I think he'll develop more as a pocket passer
• 16:02
  Speaker 5: who can win just staying in the pocket, which is
• 16:04
  Speaker 5: a kind of football I love. But I think right
• 16:07
  Speaker 5: now he needs to feel that aggression, like he's dictating
• 16:11
  Speaker 5: things or he certainly seems to play better when he
• 16:14
  Speaker 5: has that.
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: Element divin play. Always looks good when you get the
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: touchdown right, so that always helps. And I'm sure running
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: from Jeffrey Simmons was enough motivation for him as well.
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: Let's look at that second passing touchdown for Trevor yesterday
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: to Calvin, because obviously we've seen Calvin get one touchdown before,
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: but two touchdown game over one hundred receiving yards. That
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: was a huge day for him. And just to see
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: his not that he gets down to himself, because he
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: really doesn't, and he hasn't been disrupted by any means,
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: but just to see his involvement, you could tell that
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: confidence boost was there and just what he's been able
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: to do. I think the limited stats we've seen, but
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: the games that Zay Jones plays, Calvin really really benefits
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: from that.
• 16:49
  Speaker 4: I underestimated. I think how it might take him more
• 16:53
  Speaker 4: time to get back into the flow of the season
• 16:55
  Speaker 4: after missing two years. He's shown us some things this
• 16:58
  Speaker 4: year and it hasn't always been his faulty offense has
• 17:00
  Speaker 4: not given enough time for Trevor, and Trevor hasn't been mobile.
• 17:03
  Speaker 4: But I thought yesterday was important John, and you heard
• 17:06
  Speaker 4: it in his voice in the post game, because he
• 17:08
  Speaker 4: has been talking about how good of a player he is.
• 17:11
  Speaker 4: He has been boosting his own confidence and letting people
• 17:14
  Speaker 4: see the confident Calvin. But I think until yesterday, I
• 17:18
  Speaker 4: think maybe he questioned, how long is it going to
• 17:20
  Speaker 4: take me to get back to where I was? I
• 17:21
  Speaker 4: was before I left the game?
• 17:23
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, it's only Nashville.
• 17:25
  Speaker 5: You're out of the game for two years or essentially
• 17:28
  Speaker 5: two years, and then you're out of the game last
• 17:31
  Speaker 5: year for a reason that you don't want to be
• 17:34
  Speaker 5: and that you know people are looking at you because
• 17:37
  Speaker 5: you know it wasn't a great reason to be out
• 17:40
  Speaker 5: of the games, so people are criticizing you. I think
• 17:45
  Speaker 5: it's unfair to him to say that he hasn't helped
• 17:47
  Speaker 5: this team already. I'm not sure they win Week one
• 17:51
  Speaker 5: in Indy, No, they do without him. The touchdown against
• 17:56
  Speaker 5: the Falcons. I know it came on kind of a
• 17:58
  Speaker 5: bust and play, but that got you going. You don't
• 18:00
  Speaker 5: win in against Buffalo in London without him at all.
• 18:04
  Speaker 5: And then yesterday he has a huge impact three hundred
• 18:06
  Speaker 5: yard games, A lot of criticism from him in my
• 18:10
  Speaker 5: inbox last week. When is it okay to start criticizing
• 18:13
  Speaker 5: cowway you criticize anything you want if you're a fan.
• 18:16
  Speaker 6: But this kid's good.
• 18:18
  Speaker 5: The ten interference penalties, holdings, whatever, that shows you enough
• 18:23
  Speaker 5: that he's hard to cover. There's no doubt that he's
• 18:26
  Speaker 5: gonna make this team better as the season goes forward.
• 18:28
  Speaker 6: He's still the above the x's and o's guy.
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: In this So he is, and I do think he's
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: also like a great running back in the sense that
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: you got to feed him. You've got to get him
• 18:35
  Speaker 4: going and get his confidence going. In that first catch
• 18:38
  Speaker 4: that he made on the Titans sideline where he was
• 18:40
  Speaker 4: on the ground on third down and pulled the ball away,
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: you could see him get up with a little extra
• 18:45
  Speaker 4: spark in his step. So I think I think we'll
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: see him heavily involved the rest of the way because
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: the Jaguars are much better when he is.
• 18:53
  Speaker 5: And give him a little credit to In the post
• 18:55
  Speaker 5: game yesterday, somebody asked him about beating one on one
• 18:57
  Speaker 5: coverage and the phrasing, is it finally good to be
• 19:01
  Speaker 5: able to beat that? You haven't seen that much? And
• 19:03
  Speaker 5: he said, no, I've seen it. I've got to beat it.
• 19:06
  Speaker 5: He's a confident kid. He walks with a swagger, but
• 19:11
  Speaker 5: he's not afraid to tell you when he hasn't done
• 19:15
  Speaker 5: well enough. You know, I think he's going to be
• 19:19
  Speaker 5: a huge factor going forward. For the last couple of weeks,
• 19:21
  Speaker 5: I thought that his above the x's and those stuff
• 19:23
  Speaker 5: would be the difference. I still think that it's going
• 19:27
  Speaker 5: to continue to win them games, because thenk.
• 19:31
  Speaker 6: It already has.
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: I love to see him when he was talking to
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: his post game as well, drawn when someone said, oh,
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: you've been drawing those PI penalties.
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: Do you get some satisfaction out of that, and he
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: said absolutely not.
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: I want to catch the football and I want to
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: score touchdowns like I did today.
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: And I think we all a those.
• 19:43
  Speaker 6: Pis helped the team.
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: They did.
• 19:44
  Speaker 6: I get it from a receiver's point of view.
• 19:47
  Speaker 5: Even the team guys want their numbers and that doesn't
• 19:51
  Speaker 5: get him numbers, but maybe it should because those pis
• 19:55
  Speaker 5: for him have been They were huge yesterday.
• 19:57
  Speaker 6: There was one early they kept a drive going.
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: So we're too down.
• 20:00
  Speaker 6: When you're hard to cover enough that teams have to
• 20:03
  Speaker 6: cheat to be cheap. Yeah, it's a good thing for us.
• 20:07
  Speaker 5: I'm saying cheat, but you have to do things above
• 20:10
  Speaker 5: to stop him. That means you're good.
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: Think nice for him to have a day though, and
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: at home in front of the fans kind of show
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: everybody what he's capable of. Certainly he was enjoying that
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: post game for sure. We do have to mention that
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: one Titans touchdown, the early on one with Levis with
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: that flea flicker, because I want to mention at least
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: because there seems to be some miscommunication on the secondary
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: on that one, and we had talked about some of
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: the miscommunication they had against the text, which that reminded
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: me of, and that's something that they've had. If you
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: want to have a little achilles heel on the defense,
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: it can be that at times.
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: Well that's about the route that tanked Dell ran for
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: that set up had the same problem. Yeah, with that
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: one away, So they're you want to come out of
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: a game and they do right with enough to work
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: on to get your sharp for next week. That loss
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: to the San Francisco forty nine ers had this team sharp.
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: They need a couple of these, I think going into
• 21:04
  Speaker 4: the Texans game.
• 21:05
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I thought there was an element here too, where
• 21:09
  Speaker 5: you know, you get sucked in by the play call
• 21:12
  Speaker 5: and then the hop's pretty good.
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so I mean, yeah, one on one, you're gonna
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: get it.
• 21:16
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean it's I thought the thing that was
• 21:19
  Speaker 5: too bad on this drive was Calebon and getting called
• 21:22
  Speaker 5: for the roughing the passer. Yeah, and that's when I've
• 21:26
  Speaker 5: got a lot of emails on that call, so I'll
• 21:29
  Speaker 5: talk about it. It's a it's a tough rule for
• 21:33
  Speaker 5: the defense because they ruled that he fell on him
• 21:36
  Speaker 5: with his weight it. I don't know what in the
• 21:38
  Speaker 5: world Klebon could have done differently.
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: Was it the guy falling on top of him? In doubling?
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: I thought maybe if you were gonna legitimately throw it,
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: you would have thrown it at Roy Robertson Harris he
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: landed on top of Calebon, who landed on top of
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: the quarterback. But you're absolutely right.
• 21:50
  Speaker 6: It's a hard call.
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: It's a hard one.
• 21:53
  Speaker 5: The official has to make it. It has to be
• 21:55
  Speaker 5: in to protect quarterbacks. It's patently unfair to defenses. Sometimes
• 22:00
  Speaker 5: I think you just can't.
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: Live with it. When we were talking with Doug last
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: Wednesday about quarterbacks and protecting quarterbacks and what more can
• 22:07
  Speaker 4: you do? In fact, we're talking about them Friday after
• 22:09
  Speaker 4: Joe Burrow had gotten hurt and is there more you
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: can do? Because the quarterbacks are so important and you've
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: seen so many big ones, but there was nice time
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: this year had done different. Well, it was a perfect play,
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: and he's two hundred and forty five pounds and he
• 22:22
  Speaker 4: so is Levice.
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: I really felt that was in the mix because when
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: you look at both of them falling on top of Leves,
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: that was the issue.
• 22:29
  Speaker 5: Even then it's tell then you've got to tell exactly.
• 22:33
  Speaker 6: You got to tell Roy to stop in that situation.
• 22:35
  Speaker 5: It's an impossible situation for the defense because their coordinators
• 22:38
  Speaker 5: and coaches are telling him go hard.
• 22:41
  Speaker 6: They just had to live with.
• 22:42
  Speaker 5: You would hope that at least they don't get fined
• 22:45
  Speaker 5: for it, because right, it's not really their fault, but
• 22:49
  Speaker 5: it has to be called.
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: Up to Roy, right. I thought it was a picture
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: perfectly hit him right here, right between the head and
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: the knees, which is the only strike zone. You've got
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: forty five pound man. You got to put him on
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: the ground. You can't just try to baby him there.
• 23:04
  Speaker 4: You can't do that. So I think if legitimately we
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: had a chance to sit with the officials, they'd have
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: to say, well, it was Roy on top of.
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: Him and he can't coach the defense to stop there.
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: I mean, you'll live with that play. We don't like it,
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: but we'll live with it. We gave Ross mattisk the
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: long snapper some love earlier on in the first segment.
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: Now let's take a look at it because it was
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: complimentary football game, because Special Teams did a lot yesterday
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: as well.
• 23:25
  Speaker 4: And I mean, I love Joseph Lancah. He's the most
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: popular long snapper in Jaguars history and a phenomenal guy.
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: Gotta run for his money.
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: Joe wouldn't have made this play, sorry, Joe. That is
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: the first time I've ever seen a long snapper do
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: that in thirty years covering this game. And he's by
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: the way, if you watch Special Teams, John, you see
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: forty six, he's got the third most Special Teams tackles
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: on the squad second. Now, yeah, he what a great play.
• 23:49
  Speaker 6: Well, it's funny.
• 23:51
  Speaker 5: I didn't make a big deal out of it because
• 23:57
  Speaker 5: with Ross it's not unexpected. He makes tackles all the time.
• 24:00
  Speaker 5: To me, the only thing he added was the fun
• 24:03
  Speaker 5: on the phone recovered. He's always first guy down. They've
• 24:05
  Speaker 5: talked about it around here A lot in terms of coverage.
• 24:10
  Speaker 5: He's I can't imagine there's a better long snapper in
• 24:12
  Speaker 5: the league. In terms of being down there and being
• 24:14
  Speaker 5: a factor. Usually the long snapper is sort of the
• 24:17
  Speaker 5: guy who's also going down.
• 24:20
  Speaker 6: A ross is often first.
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: Guy down well and he pulls the ball out. He's
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: facing the Titans sideline and the ball goes to the
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: Jaguars sideline. You see him immediately turn up and just
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: jump the other direction. I just I freaking love it
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: when the long snapper gets some love.
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: People say things whatever you want to say about special teams,
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: they're very specific.
• 24:36
  Speaker 3: He's rosso's being a football player.
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: And if you go back and watch Doug Peterson's postgame
• 24:43
  Speaker 4: a locker room that's up on the website when they
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: talk about that play and you see Roy Robertson, Harrison,
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: the whole team giving him some love. Come of a
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: long snapper, right, I mean, it was an awesome, great moment.
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: Happy to see it. Let's take one final highlight today.
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: Trevor's second rushing touchdown of the day. The start of
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: the day I think was He's the first Jaguars quarterback
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: to have two rushing touchdowns and two passing touchdowns, which
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: is interesting to think about.
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: But I mean good for Trevor.
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: I love seeing Trevor run, and that's part of my
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: hot takes, so I won't get into too much into it,
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: but it opened so much stuff up yesterday just with
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: his and the threat he had of running.
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: You know, when you watched him play at Clemson, you
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: always knew he was the best player on the field,
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: and yesterday he felt like the best player on the
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: field without a doubt and was just showing off. I
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: loved it.
• 25:30
  Speaker 6: The old man and me says, you gotta stops taking
• 25:32
  Speaker 6: the ball like that.
• 25:33
  Speaker 4: No, it's not the old man, and you bet putting
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: it back on the inside for him.
• 25:38
  Speaker 6: Yesterday he needed it, This team needed it. It worked there,
• 25:43
  Speaker 6: it works.
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: It's fine, and it stops working, then we'll talk about it.
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: I love that there, all right, we love it.
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: All right, say that's coming back. We'll go over some
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: of our hot takes for the team after the break.
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• 26:18
  Speaker 2: I don't think we talk enough about the defense.
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: You know.
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: They're the ones that have kept us in the majority
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: of our football games this season, you know, and they
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: did a nice job today. Is one of the things
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: that we knew going in we'd have to, you know,
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: slow down this run game, you know, and I thought
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: for the most part, did a nice job control the
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: line of scrimmage and they played fast. You know, they
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: played fast today and that was good to see. Our
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: secondary was was on point.
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: I have to politely disagree with Doug on that one
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: because we talked about the defense all the time because
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: they are amazing and they are the backbone of this
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: team for sure this season. But you know, probably won't
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: get as much love in this particular game, but they
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: played outstanding.
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah. I just felt like they were on it, you know,
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: And I kind of got to send from Rayshaw last
• 26:59
  Speaker 4: week that they would be. He just he's the heartbeat
• 27:01
  Speaker 4: of this defense. I know you could point to a
• 27:03
  Speaker 4: lot of different guys, but he's the energy, you know.
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: I mean, if I don't know how to describe it,
• 27:08
  Speaker 4: he's like an energy year for those guys. I mean,
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: he just juices him up. And I got the sense
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: last week that they were gonna come up with some
• 27:14
  Speaker 4: takeaways because of him.
• 27:15
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 27:16
  Speaker 5: I thought going into the game, the defense ability to
• 27:19
  Speaker 5: stop the run and to create take a and create
• 27:23
  Speaker 5: takeaways was the thing that the jag It was the
• 27:27
  Speaker 5: matchup edge that.
• 27:28
  Speaker 6: I thought would enable the Jaguars to control of the game.
• 27:31
  Speaker 6: And it did. That was right Pat me on the background, so.
• 27:37
  Speaker 5: And I thought, what really helped them be the dominant
• 27:40
  Speaker 5: team and allow them to be in control Some games,
• 27:43
  Speaker 5: when you're a good team, you're supposed.
• 27:45
  Speaker 6: To come out of it at the end.
• 27:47
  Speaker 5: Okay, that was a relatively easy one, and they're never easy,
• 27:51
  Speaker 5: but you know what I'm saying. You never really felt
• 27:53
  Speaker 5: like the Titans were gonna win that one. You got
• 27:55
  Speaker 5: to get some of those because you're just the better team.
• 27:58
  Speaker 5: The defense enable them to be the better team. And
• 28:00
  Speaker 5: for the most part, out of seventeen games this year,
• 28:03
  Speaker 5: I've said it multiple times, I think they're going to
• 28:05
  Speaker 5: be really really good, twelve or thirteen times.
• 28:09
  Speaker 6: It's hard in this lead to be great defensively every
• 28:11
  Speaker 6: week because the offenses are so good.
• 28:12
  Speaker 5: But they've gotten them to seven and three, and I
• 28:16
  Speaker 5: think most of the offense would tell you if the
• 28:18
  Speaker 5: defense wasn't playing well, this record be a lot different.
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: Certainly would be.
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: Let's go through our hot takes this week, Brian will
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: start off with you. What's your hot takes?
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: All right? Well, look, the nine carries for twenty one
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: yards and a two point six yard per carry average
• 28:29
  Speaker 4: is not going to dazzle anybody. But buried in there,
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: we're three six yard runs in the fourth quarter from
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: Tank big Speed. That is an element that this offense needs.
• 28:39
  Speaker 4: And I was talking with a member of the personnel
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: department during practice last week and I said, if you
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: get a lead this week, will you see big Speed
• 28:48
  Speaker 4: with the ball in his hands more than just once
• 28:50
  Speaker 4: or twice. Give him the ball? And there was like, yes,
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: we're waiting for that moment in the fourth quarter. Defeed
• 28:56
  Speaker 4: him and get him confident. Those three six yard runs
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: showcase power, they showcase patience, They showcase just enough wiggle
• 29:02
  Speaker 4: to get over the top of a defender and find more. Look,
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: Deanners Johnson is the number two back right now, but
• 29:08
  Speaker 4: he's not the power back. And Travis Dtn is a
• 29:11
  Speaker 4: home run hitter, and he can run with power occasionally,
• 29:13
  Speaker 4: but I don't see him as the power back John.
• 29:15
  Speaker 4: I think you're going to need this guy to come
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: in and hammer out on third down and four, whether
• 29:21
  Speaker 4: it's this week against the Texans or Monday night football,
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: or in Cleveland on a cold day coming up in
• 29:25
  Speaker 4: a couple of weeks, I think Tag Bigsby's going to
• 29:28
  Speaker 4: have some big opportunities, and I think he'll come through.
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: He's a good football player, despite the fact that he's
• 29:33
  Speaker 4: had a ball come off of his hands a couple
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: of times in the passing game.
• 29:35
  Speaker 6: Yeah, he's been so criticized, and frankly, rightfully.
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  Speaker 5: So in a lot of situations. I've thought Tank's biggest.
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  Speaker 6: Hurdle has been.
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  Speaker 5: That in this offense right now, he's not gonna get
• 29:50
  Speaker 5: fifteen carries a game, right And think I said this
• 29:53
  Speaker 5: last week, if you gave Travis Etn three carries a
• 29:56
  Speaker 5: game right now, you wouldn't have any idea if he's
• 29:59
  Speaker 5: any good or not because the offensive line is not
• 30:02
  Speaker 5: blasting holes.
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  Speaker 6: It has been.
• 30:06
  Speaker 5: The running game has been a stick to it running game,
• 30:10
  Speaker 5: meaning one to one and then seventeen yards. Well, Bigsby
• 30:15
  Speaker 5: really hasn't had a chance to get involved, and he
• 30:17
  Speaker 5: needs those carries. I still think that if he had
• 30:21
  Speaker 5: to carry the load in a game that you would
• 30:23
  Speaker 5: see more of what you saw late that you're talking about.
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  Speaker 6: I think he's gonna be a good player.
• 30:27
  Speaker 4: And I don't think the fumble against the Steelers was
• 30:29
  Speaker 4: a fumble. I'll say that again. The ball's got off
• 30:31
  Speaker 4: his hands in two different ways. Have both been interceptions.
• 30:34
  Speaker 4: I don't think the fumble was there. I don't think
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  Speaker 4: he's got a problem, even though people have taken that
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  Speaker 4: as the narrative. I don't think he's a liability.
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: My problems with Tank and I agree with you. I
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: think seeing what he did in the fourth quarter was excellent.
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: He needs to be fed the ball a couple times
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: in a row, same drive get him going. But that's
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: when you're up by three touchdowns, because I don't think
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: we can put him in early in a game when
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: there's still things at risk at this point. And it's
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: not because I think he's going to fumble necessarily. It's
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: because what he did on special teams costly penalties, not blocking,
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: not knowing that coverage, things like that, And I don't
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: put anything against him. I think we get so caught
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: up in rookie's playing really well immediately. I don't think that.
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  Speaker 1: I think he's someone that in his second year is
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  Speaker 1: going to be amazing. It's you know, you see the
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: jump that Devin Lloyd has made it in his second season.
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: You see once they understand playing NFL football. I think
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: Tank can be one of those people. But it's week
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: twelve and I don't trust him. In the first and
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: second quarter when this game is.
• 31:25
  Speaker 4: Closed, you just can't shy away from talent. And he's
• 31:27
  Speaker 4: a hammer and they have not been good on third down,
• 31:30
  Speaker 4: and you're gonna need him. I'm telling you, you're gonna
• 31:32
  Speaker 4: need that power back at some point in this seven
• 31:35
  Speaker 4: game stretch, and you can't be scared.
• 31:36
  Speaker 6: He's not yeah to knocking guys backward late in the game.
• 31:40
  Speaker 4: Yesterday it was a stack box too.
• 31:43
  Speaker 5: I wonder how much it's gonna resonate with coaches, and
• 31:45
  Speaker 5: I think they're gonna try to figure out a way
• 31:46
  Speaker 5: to get him involved.
• 31:48
  Speaker 6: Even though Kay didn't.
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: Trust him, They're gonna do it. I just it's week twelve.
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: I can't at this point, I can't do anymore. Doug
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: will do it because Doug is that kind of coach
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  Speaker 1: and he'll find a way. And I would love to
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: be wrong. Please run this tape back at me and
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: I'm wrong and Tank has a day. I hope that
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: happens very very soon, John, what's your hot take.
• 32:04
  Speaker 6: For I went with.
• 32:08
  Speaker 5: This team's good, and it's good whether fans believe it
• 32:12
  Speaker 5: or not. It's such an up and down thing and
• 32:14
  Speaker 5: it was so much angs last week. I don't know
• 32:17
  Speaker 5: if it's a great team. I don't see this team.
• 32:20
  Speaker 5: I hope I'm wrong. I don't see them being a
• 32:22
  Speaker 5: super Bowl favorite going into the playoffs. I see them
• 32:24
  Speaker 5: maybe being not twelve and five, eleven and six, maybe
• 32:28
  Speaker 5: twelve and five now.
• 32:30
  Speaker 6: But they're good, and.
• 32:33
  Speaker 5: Good teams do what they did yesterday, which is take
• 32:36
  Speaker 5: care of business against teams that aren't as good. How
• 32:39
  Speaker 5: many games, Bryan in the past do they play just
• 32:42
  Speaker 5: a muddled game yesterday against another team that's struggling, and
• 32:45
  Speaker 5: it's just more often than not. Yet I get the
• 32:49
  Speaker 5: fans who don't who I want them to be at
• 32:52
  Speaker 5: this Chi's forty nine ers level.
• 32:53
  Speaker 6: I don't know if they're there yet. I think they
• 32:54
  Speaker 6: can get there, but they're good.
• 32:57
  Speaker 5: I guess the point of the hot take is they
• 32:58
  Speaker 5: have a chance to get the if they improve, and
• 33:02
  Speaker 5: that's what December and January will be about.
• 33:06
  Speaker 4: Well, let me tell you where they can improve. And folks,
• 33:08
  Speaker 4: you've heard this from me ad nauseum four of twelve month.
• 33:11
  Speaker 4: Third down yesterday they couldn't stay on the field, okay,
• 33:15
  Speaker 4: and two field goals in the red zone in the
• 33:17
  Speaker 4: second half. If you score those two touchdowns and you're
• 33:20
  Speaker 4: up twenty one to nothing going into halftime instead of thirteen,
• 33:23
  Speaker 4: then you look like a great team and not what
• 33:26
  Speaker 4: I think is a very good team. Right, I'm with you,
• 33:29
  Speaker 4: they're good. They get to that great level when they
• 33:32
  Speaker 4: are near fifty percent on third down give me forty seven,
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: I'd take it, right. And when you're scoring touchdowns seventy
• 33:38
  Speaker 4: five percent of the time in the red zone, there's
• 33:41
  Speaker 4: no doubt they've got the weapons right to do that.
• 33:44
  Speaker 4: They just have to execute better. If they improve on
• 33:46
  Speaker 4: those two areas, they will be a team that will
• 33:49
  Speaker 4: make noise in the playoffs and maybe be a Super
• 33:52
  Speaker 4: Bowl contender.
• 33:52
  Speaker 5: And there are a lot of teams league right now
• 33:54
  Speaker 5: sitting record wise who I don't think would tell you
• 33:58
  Speaker 5: the straight face, Hey, we can get to great this year.
• 34:02
  Speaker 6: The Jaguars have the ability.
• 34:03
  Speaker 5: To get to great, and I think that's what is
• 34:06
  Speaker 5: going to make the final what is the seven games?
• 34:09
  Speaker 6: To me, that's the storyline. Can they go from here to.
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: Here good with a lot of upside. I think that's
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: a good way to describe it. My hot take this
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: week is about Trevor Lawrence. And we saw two rushing
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: touchdowns from yesterday, and we need I don't know if
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: we need touchdowns from every time, but we need to
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: see him keep running because that ability and that threat.
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: Not that he's you know, a crazy fast guy, but
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: he could turn on you know, the heaters when he
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: needs to and he gets there. And I think the
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: thing about it in our highlights, we looked at that
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: play on fourth down when he looked like he was
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: gonna run, kind of drew everyone in and then found
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: Dearness Johnson. That's what I want to see from him
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: more because the status.
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: Of the O line.
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: They played pretty well yesterday, but it's still not a
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: stout offensive line, so he does need to be able
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: to be mobile and then use that to create other things.
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: And from what we saw from yesterday, certainly capable of
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: doing that well.
• 34:55
  Speaker 4: And I loved on that first touchdown run where he
• 34:57
  Speaker 4: was still you know, shuffling his feet and back peddling,
• 35:00
  Speaker 4: but looking, you know, for the ball down the field.
• 35:03
  Speaker 4: He didn't necessarily want to run, but then he saw
• 35:06
  Speaker 4: it was his best option and he did. You need
• 35:08
  Speaker 4: that threat to keep defenders on us.
• 35:11
  Speaker 5: Yet it was clear watching yesterday that he hadn't been
• 35:14
  Speaker 5: the same guy the last three or four weeks, and
• 35:16
  Speaker 5: a credit him for playing giving them a chance to
• 35:20
  Speaker 5: win in those games.
• 35:23
  Speaker 6: He as earlier in the show.
• 35:25
  Speaker 5: He needs that element, that threat right now to make
• 35:30
  Speaker 5: him feel like Superman so to speak, right, I mean,
• 35:33
  Speaker 5: and that's what he sort of started feeling like as
• 35:36
  Speaker 5: he figured out, Hey, I've got the mobility, I'm on
• 35:39
  Speaker 5: it today.
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: That confidence boosts he can tell he plays differently with it.
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: Stay with us.
• 35:43
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• 36:17
  Speaker 1: Sweep service game yesterday we saw tons of bets here.
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: It was a great day.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it was just awesome.
• 36:21
  Speaker 6: Jack always is.
• 36:23
  Speaker 7: I mean, well, I'm not thinking about any of that stuff.
• 36:26
  Speaker 7: I could care less what those what those guys say,
• 36:28
  Speaker 7: to be honest, that's really my only response to that.
• 36:30
  Speaker 4: You know, it doesn't matter.
• 36:32
  Speaker 7: You know, if those guys think I'm the best thing
• 36:36
  Speaker 7: in the world, it doesn't matter either. So that doesn't
• 36:39
  Speaker 7: really matter. Love Arden, the former teammate, hurts that he said.
• 36:42
  Speaker 4: That, But now I really don't.
• 36:44
  Speaker 7: I don't care. You know, it's about how you perform
• 36:46
  Speaker 7: on Sunday, and you know it's not about what other
• 36:49
  Speaker 7: people say. But you want to change a narrative and
• 36:50
  Speaker 7: change a narrative and play better.
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: So former Jaguar art and he said, Trevor wasn't that guy.
• 36:56
  Speaker 4: Did you see? As he was setting up they had
• 36:59
  Speaker 4: him live on TV as they were trying to get
• 37:01
  Speaker 4: the sideline reporter to him, and Arden came up and
• 37:04
  Speaker 4: interrupted them and gave him a big hug. I mean
• 37:05
  Speaker 4: it was Arden's a talker, it's it's what he does.
• 37:08
  Speaker 4: He was throwing shade at him, but he certainly proved
• 37:12
  Speaker 4: him wrong. And that's what I love about Trevor is
• 37:14
  Speaker 4: he doesn't want to point his finger and argue with people.
• 37:16
  Speaker 4: He goes, I should play better, and he did yesterday
• 37:19
  Speaker 4: and and it was fun to watch Arden come over
• 37:21
  Speaker 4: and sort of eat cro.
• 37:23
  Speaker 6: The NFL is supposed to be fun.
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: It was fun.
• 37:25
  Speaker 5: It's sports, it's fun. That kind of talking is fun,
• 37:29
  Speaker 5: and yeah, it's fun.
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: I loved it. Shout out to Trevor for waffle House today.
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: Bought everybody waffle House. There's if there's a guy that's him.
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: It's Trevor.
• 37:39
  Speaker 4: That's still one of his great moments as a pro
• 37:40
  Speaker 4: is walking into the waffle House out in Jacksonville Beach
• 37:43
  Speaker 4: after that win last year with his whole crew. I mean,
• 37:46
  Speaker 4: that was It's such a Jacksonville thing, it's such a
• 37:48
  Speaker 4: a Southern thing, and he's a Southern kid. Uh, it
• 37:51
  Speaker 4: just it just it just fit it's why he fits
• 37:54
  Speaker 4: here so well. He's he just gets it.
• 37:56
  Speaker 3: Victory Monday.
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: Enjoy your victory Monday, enjoy your waffle House if you had,
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: and we'll be back on Wednesday here on Jacksam to
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: pred you that big matchup against the Texans