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The Pyramid Was Always Wrong: Matthew Barzun on Giving Away Power

Most organizations, and most conversations about AI, default to triangles: who's on top and who's below? Are we the boss of the machines or is it the other way around? Matthew Barzun argues the comfortable shape is a trap and that bottom-up is still a pyramid. The alternative is the constellation: stand out as yourself, connect to other stars, and build something none of you could alone.

In this episode, Matthew Barzun joins Josh Tyson and Robb Wilson to connect diplomacy, design, and agentic AI through constellation thinking. Kentucky doesn't report to Washington. Berkeley doesn't report to…

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