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MUSK VS TRUMP duke it out on twitter, but is there something more going on? ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) | Rant 243 · Honey Badger Radio

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  Speaker 1: Coming to you live from deep within a debt ridden
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  Speaker 1: radioactive wasteland. We are the survivors of the alt right apocalypse,
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  Speaker 1: the few of the belly of the bitchy, once more
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  Speaker 1: wading into battle against the Twitter hoards with Musk versus
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  Speaker 1: Trump duke it out on Twitter. But I think there's
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  Speaker 1: something more going on rant Zerker number two, four three,
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  Speaker 1: And I'm your host, Alison, and with me is the
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  Speaker 1: very skeptical Karen, who may make her skepticism clear of
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  Speaker 1: why we are what the heck am I doing? But
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  Speaker 1: I just wanted to start by saying that in this
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  Speaker 1: Twitter for costs, So how you say it? For costs?
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  Speaker 1: Practice Trumps?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Trump has.
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  Speaker 1: Lost like I think fourteen percent on his test liss Stalk,
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  Speaker 1: so he's taken quite a hit.
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  Speaker 2: Although I do have.
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  Speaker 1: A video of him saying that Trump, you don't go
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  Speaker 1: Elon has lost fourteen percent on his testlas Stock, so
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  Speaker 1: he's taken quite a hit in this particular endeavor that
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  Speaker 1: he's pursuing. But I do have like a video of
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  Speaker 1: him saying that doesn't matter money power, He just wants
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  Speaker 1: to tell the truth. So why don't we get into
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  Speaker 1: it and find out what the heck's going on and
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  Speaker 1: what could be behind this and why it's happening. So
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  Speaker 1: go ahead, Karen, I know you have words for me.
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  Speaker 3: Well go ahead in terms of me, right, any speculation
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  Speaker 3: at this point is premature as to what's going on
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  Speaker 3: behind the scenes and why this happened.
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  Speaker 4: It's premature. It's just like, let's just throw a bunch
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  Speaker 4: of spaghetti around and see if anything might stick. Yeah. No,
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  Speaker 4: I just like if I'd known this was the topic,
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  Speaker 4: I would have told you to pick another topic.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I actually have some information that I just picked
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  Speaker 1: out because I'm a squirrel picking up nuts that I
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  Speaker 1: wanted to throw out there. But I'll do it at
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  Speaker 1: the end. Let's just sort of cover what's going on.
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  Speaker 1: And I got to get to the correct item because
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  Speaker 1: I have a whole bunch of nuts that I've gathered,
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  Speaker 1: and so let's start with this.
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  Speaker 2: Can you guys hear this?
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  Speaker 6: It should be camera note.
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  Speaker 1: Really it's really muffled. Okay, Well let me see if
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  Speaker 1: I let me see what's going on.
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  Speaker 6: Here, Karen. Can you hear it?
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  Speaker 4: I can hear it. It's really quiet compared to Alison
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  Speaker 4: and you.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, so let me first, I have to identify where
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  Speaker 1: the heck my mouse went. Because I'm wearing my migraine
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  Speaker 1: proof glasses. It should be coming out of the screen.
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  Speaker 1: Did I forget to actually put the sound on? Stop sharing?
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  Speaker 1: I will attempt to redo this entire screen it should
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  Speaker 1: to share. I have to get a tab and this
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  Speaker 1: isn't in a tab. So let me see if I
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  Speaker 1: can find it quickly on the webs.
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  Speaker 4: No, just open the u r L in a tab.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't have the u r L. I have
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  Speaker 1: actually downloaded this file.
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  Speaker 7: Just is it possible to drag the file into a
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  Speaker 7: web browser and have it open as a.
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  Speaker 1: Video sign what I was doing at the beginning of this?
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  Speaker 6: Okay, so.
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  Speaker 2: All right, so uh.
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  Speaker 1: Here we go. This is Forbes, so they're gonna have
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  Speaker 1: a lot of crap as well involved in this.
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  Speaker 8: So actually Forbes is not too bad.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, here we go.
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  Speaker 1: Can you guys hear this now that I've seen I'm
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  Speaker 1: sure you've seen.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, that's good.
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  Speaker 1: Elon Musk and your big beautiful bill.
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  Speaker 6: What's your reaction to that?
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  Speaker 4: Do you?
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  Speaker 1: Sorry?
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  Speaker 9: Guys in any way hurts passage in the Senate, which,
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  Speaker 9: of course, what is you're seeking?
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  Speaker 10: Well, look, you know I've always liked Elon and that's
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  Speaker 10: always very surprised.
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  Speaker 11: You saw the words he had for me, the words,
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  Speaker 11: and he hasn't said anything about me. That's bad.
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  Speaker 10: I'd rather have him criticize me than the bill, because
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  Speaker 10: the bill is incredible.
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  Speaker 11: It's the biggest cut in the history of our country.
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  Speaker 11: We've never cut. It's about one point six trillion in cuts.
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  Speaker 11: It's the biggest tax cut. Tax You would.
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  Speaker 10: Say, uh, people's taxes will go way down, but it's
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  Speaker 10: the biggest tax cut in history.
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  Speaker 11: It's we have.
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  Speaker 10: We are doing things in that bill that are unbelievable,
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  Speaker 10: and when you look at what we're doing.
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  Speaker 1: Just just another technical issue, Brian. It's not really selecting
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  Speaker 1: the source to show up show on the vertical stream
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  Speaker 1: your cameras.
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  Speaker 6: Your camera's frozen too, Okay.
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  Speaker 1: I can fix that.
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  Speaker 8: But no, no, your camera's fine.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, my camera's fine.
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  Speaker 6: Well maybe I was just yeah, so what now, what
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  Speaker 6: was it about the source? What's the issue?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, the source isn't isn't being pulled up on the
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  Speaker 1: vertical chat, so they aren't able to see what's going on.
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  Speaker 6: I see, I see. That's because of the hold on.
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  Speaker 2: Am I am I too?
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  Speaker 1: Loud to have to mute.
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  Speaker 6: It's because you guys are making noise and it's switching scenes,
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  Speaker 6: So go ahead and play.
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  Speaker 2: Got too many tabs here at.
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  Speaker 11: The beginning, you knew it for a long time ago.
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  Speaker 11: That's been in there. That's been I would say, JD.
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  Speaker 11: That hasn't changed. That's been right from the beginning. Mister
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  Speaker 11: I think, mister secretary, that hasn't changed it right from
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  Speaker 11: the beginning. But I know that it disturbed him.
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  Speaker 10: He wanted and rightfully, you know, he recommended somebody from
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  Speaker 10: that he I guess knew very well. I'm sure he
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  Speaker 10: respected him, but to run NASA, and I didn't think
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  Speaker 10: it was appropriate. And he happened to be a democrat,
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  Speaker 10: like totally democrat.
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  Speaker 11: And I say, you know, look, we won.
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  Speaker 10: We get certain privileges, and one of the privileges we
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  Speaker 10: don't have to appoint the democrat as is very important.
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  Speaker 11: We have great people of general.
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  Speaker 2: All right.
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  Speaker 1: So basically that's a little bit of a summation. I
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  Speaker 1: can go over to Epoch because I trust them quite
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  Speaker 1: a bit to take a look at what's going on here,
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  Speaker 1: and uh, I'll do a read through Epoch.
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  Speaker 2: All right, here we go, I think that's how you
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  Speaker 2: said the Epoch Times.
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  Speaker 1: All right, so is this showing up correctly?
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  Speaker 8: Yes, Brian?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, good, So this is the Epoch Times Trump
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  Speaker 1: Musk trade barbes admid breakover policy bill. The relationship ruptured
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  Speaker 1: in real time online, spurred by disagreements over the deficit
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  Speaker 1: impact of Trump's policy bill. Simmering policy disagreements between President
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  Speaker 1: Donald Trump and TESLA CEO Elon Musk on June devolved
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  Speaker 1: into open conflict after Trump criticized the former ally from
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  Speaker 1: the Oval Office. After Musk ratcheted up his criticisms of
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  Speaker 1: Trump's signature domestic policy bill, Trump told reporters on June
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  Speaker 1: fifth that he was disappointed with the Tesla CEO, alleging
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  Speaker 1: that his attacks were driven by the bill's rollback of
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  Speaker 1: clean energy tax credits. Musk quickly shot back on his
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  Speaker 1: social media platform, posting a flurry of responses and raising
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  Speaker 1: the prospect of abandoning the gp GOP entirely in favor
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  Speaker 1: of a third party. Trump responded on his truth social platform,
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  Speaker 1: threatening to cancel government contracts with Musks companies. The conflict
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  Speaker 1: escalated rapidly online, with both leveling harsh criticism at the other.
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  Speaker 1: The public rupture comes just days after Musk left the
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  Speaker 1: administration as a special advisor for the Department of Government
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  Speaker 1: Efficiency DOGE. Trump and Musk had praised each other in
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  Speaker 1: the Oval Office in an Oval Office event, marking the occasion.
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  Speaker 1: The once close relationship between the two, which began in
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  Speaker 1: twenty twenty four after Trump narrowly survived in assassination temp
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  Speaker 1: in Butler, Pennsylvania, appeared to have been strained in recent
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  Speaker 1: weeks by disagreements over the House past budget billed called
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  Speaker 1: the One Beautiful Bill Act, the Republican legislature would fund
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  Speaker 1: and implement Trump's agenda, but has been condemned by Musk
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  Speaker 1: and some other Republicans for its potential impact on the
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  Speaker 1: federal deficit. That would be I think rand a public breakup.
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  Speaker 1: After days of attempting to present a unified front despite
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  Speaker 1: their disagreements on the budget bill, Trump indicated growing frustrations
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  Speaker 1: with Musk During comments to reporters from the Oval Office.
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  Speaker 1: The President expressed disappointment and must criticism of his key legislation.
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  Speaker 1: Elon and I had a great relationship. I don't know
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  Speaker 1: if we will anymore, he said. Musk immediately responded with
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  Speaker 1: a post on x, claiming that the campaigning for Trump
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  Speaker 1: turned the tide. His campaigning for Trump turned the tide
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  Speaker 1: in the critical swing state of Pennsylvania. Without me, Trump
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  Speaker 1: would have lost the election, Dems would control the House,
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  Speaker 1: and the Republicans be fifty one forty nine in the Senate.
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  Speaker 1: Musk said such ingratitude, Musk poured three hundred million into
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  Speaker 1: supporting Trump in the twenty twenty four elections. Trump said
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  Speaker 1: that he had been blindsided by Musk's off position to
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  Speaker 1: the GOP bill, telling reporters that Musk knew the inner
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  Speaker 1: workings of the bill better than anyone sitting here. Trump
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  Speaker 1: suggested that Musk's opposition was driven in part by the
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  Speaker 1: bill's provisions in repealed credit for electronic vehicles that were
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  Speaker 1: included in the twenty twenty two Inflation Reduction Act. He
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  Speaker 1: only developed the problem when he found out they were
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  Speaker 1: going to cut the EV mandate, Trump said, referring to
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  Speaker 1: electrical vehicles.
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  Speaker 2: The House passed.
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  Speaker 1: Bill phases out a seven hundred or seventy five hundred
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  Speaker 1: EV crack tax credit in December twenty twenty six. It
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  Speaker 1: also accelerates the phase outs of other clean energy tax
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  Speaker 1: credits enacted in the Inflation Reduction Act. Musk denied that
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  Speaker 1: his opposition was because of the changes to the EV policy.
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  Speaker 1: Whenever he said in a post, whatever he said in
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  Speaker 1: a post, keep the EV solar incentive cuts in the bill,
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  Speaker 1: even though no oil and gas subsidies are touched. Very unfair,
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  Speaker 1: but ditch the mountain of disgusting pork in the bill.
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  Speaker 1: On his Truth Social platform, Trump said that Musk had
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  Speaker 1: been wearing thin, saying that he had must to leave
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  Speaker 1: his post a doge. Musk responded, denying it. Trump threatens
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  Speaker 1: must contract. Okay, and so the debates over bill's deficit impact.
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  Speaker 1: The conflict stems from differing positions on the Trump agendas
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  Speaker 1: bills impact on the federal deficit. The Congressional Budget Office
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  Speaker 1: CBO on June fourth projected that the legislation would add
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  Speaker 1: two point four trillion to the deficit over a decade,
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  Speaker 1: but Trump is indicated that this doesn't tell the full story.
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  Speaker 1: Trump and Republican leaders argue that the bill would unleash
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  Speaker 1: economic growth, leading to net reductions in the deficit over
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  Speaker 1: ten years. During a call with reporters on June fourth,
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  Speaker 1: Russ Voget, the director of the Office of Management and
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  Speaker 1: budgement said that the CBO's baseline for calculating the budget's
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  Speaker 1: impact is fundamentally skewed. Essentially, what they're saying is the
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  Speaker 1: CBO doesn't include growth, the growth projected, the enough projected
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  Speaker 1: growth to cover the deficit.
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  Speaker 4: It also doesn't it doesn't include income revenues from care.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Musk has decried the bill as a disgusting abomination, expressing
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  Speaker 1: skepticism that a bill could be both big and beautiful.
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  Speaker 1: He called on supporters to urge their lawmakers to kill
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  Speaker 1: the bill. It's unclear what impact the growing feud will
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  Speaker 1: have as the legislation works through the Senate. The President
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  Speaker 1: hopes the legislation could be passed by early July. Several Republicans,
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  Speaker 1: including Senator Rand Paul Ron Johnson, and Mike Lee, have
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  Speaker 1: expressed similar concerns regarding the bill's impact on the federal budget.
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  Speaker 1: Substantial modifications the House pass bill are expected in the
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  Speaker 1: Upper Chamber, where Trump can spare no more than three
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  Speaker 1: deflections to pass the legislation.
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  Speaker 2: So this isn't It still has a ways to go
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  Speaker 2: to be passed.
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  Speaker 1: And I guess the question is because I know this
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  Speaker 1: has really impacted a lot of people. It's almost as
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  Speaker 1: bad as your parents divorcing. But the question is this
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  Speaker 1: I mean, could this be some political theater in order
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  Speaker 1: to apply pressure to the Senate. Could there be another
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  Speaker 1: thing going on?
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  Speaker 4: No, No, you don't think so.
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  Speaker 1: You think that this is a genuine breakup.
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  Speaker 4: No, I think I think that Elon Musk is not. Okay,
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  Speaker 4: So consider the name of it. One big beautiful bill, right, Okay,
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  Speaker 4: because Trump has one big beautiful economic plan, right, and
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  Speaker 4: that plan includes cutting taxes to spur growth, imposing tariffs
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  Speaker 4: to bring to onshore manufacturing and business investment, right, and
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  Speaker 4: spur economic growth, and therefore government revenues. And then you
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  Speaker 4: also have and like projected growth from these tax cuts
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  Speaker 4: and the tariffs, not just the tariffs in terms of
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  Speaker 4: the money that you collect from them, but the revenue
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  Speaker 4: that you generate because now iPhones are going to be
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  Speaker 4: made in America, right, and all the cars are going
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  Speaker 4: to be made in America and all of that. Right,
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  Speaker 4: So you have all of these different revenue streams that
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  Speaker 4: are coming together. And the CBO does not, the Committee
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  Speaker 4: for the Budget Office, whatever it's called, they don't include everything, right,
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  Speaker 4: all of these in all of the projections in their calculations, right,
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  Speaker 4: so they say this is going to increase the depth.
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  Speaker 4: Sit well maybe not, maybe it won't, right maybe Like
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  Speaker 4: in by I think it was twenty eighteen or twenty nineteen, right,
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  Speaker 4: Trump's tax cuts actually that he implemented in twenty seventeen,
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  Speaker 4: they came into effect in twenty eighteen. Right for the
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  Speaker 4: twenty eighteen tax here, those tax cuts basically increased government
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  Speaker 4: revenues because they spurred growth. Right, They increased incomes and
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  Speaker 4: spurred growth. So you're taxing a lower percentage on higher
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  Speaker 4: personal incomes, and you're taxing a lower percentage on higher
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  Speaker 4: business revenues higher business profits. Right. So but basically Trump
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  Speaker 4: has a comprehensive economic plan, right, And you can't implement
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  Speaker 4: a comp hents of economic plan in seventeen bills standalone bills.
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  Speaker 4: You can't do it, right because everybody's gonna say, well,
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  Speaker 4: how's the border security funding gonna like what's the pay
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  Speaker 4: for here? Like, how are we gonna find the money? Well,
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  Speaker 4: the money's found in one of the other sixteen bills,
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  Speaker 4: right in the increased revenue, right, So you kind of
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  Speaker 4: have to consolidate it. It's like basically asking yourself. Well, okay,
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  Speaker 4: so I own a home and I can afford to
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  Speaker 4: spend twenty five thousand dollars on a new roof and
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  Speaker 4: twenty five hundred dollars on a new bathroom, and then
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  Speaker 4: I can I can afford to spend one thousand dollars
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  Speaker 4: updating the paint job. And yeah, no, but all of
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  Speaker 4: that money is fungible, right, and if your income goes
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  Speaker 4: up during that period of time, right, then you can
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  Speaker 4: afford more, can afford more for the roof if the
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  Speaker 4: roof turns out to not cost as much as you
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  Speaker 4: thought it would. And this is what this is what
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  Speaker 4: infuriates me, and it actually infuriated Elon Musk about you know,
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  Speaker 4: when he was working with Doche is, okay, if you
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  Speaker 4: if you have a government department and they're allocated, you
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  Speaker 4: can spend this much money this year, right.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, Brent Karen, can I just get you to pause
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  Speaker 1: for a second, Brian, could you switch it back to
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  Speaker 1: the faces if you're here, if you're listening, so that
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  Speaker 1: we can.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, it's done.
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  Speaker 7: I just thought you let me know when you want
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  Speaker 7: me to turn it off, and I'll talk.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, Okay, sure, anyway, what I was saying, is so,
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  Speaker 4: if you have a company, and my mom used to
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  Speaker 4: work at a specialty advertising company and they put like
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  Speaker 4: logos on hats and on golf balls and and on
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  Speaker 4: t shirts and stuff like that. And at the end
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  Speaker 4: of every fiscal year, the last month, that was the
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  Speaker 4: busiest season. Why because every government department would come in
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  Speaker 4: to order specialized pens and hats and like all kinds
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  Speaker 4: of because they had to spend their budget. Because if
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  Speaker 4: they didn't spend every last fucking dollar they were allocated
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  Speaker 4: that year, it wasn't rolled over. The extra wasn't rolled
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  Speaker 4: over into next year. They didn't start from you know,
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  Speaker 4: it wasn't like balance down to zero and they got
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  Speaker 4: the same amount next year. No, if they only if
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  Speaker 4: they were allocated a million dollars and they only spent
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  Speaker 4: eight hundred thousand dollars that year, right, they'd only get
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  Speaker 4: eight hundred thousand dollars the next year. They wouldn't get
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  Speaker 4: a million dollars next year. They wouldn't get one point
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  Speaker 4: two million dollars next year, they get eight hundred thousand
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  Speaker 4: because that's what they spent the previous year. And this
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  Speaker 4: is how governments fucking work, right, Okay, And you can't
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  Speaker 4: fucking fix a government by just saying, okay, well let's
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  Speaker 4: just do everything piecemeal. How much can I spend on
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  Speaker 4: the kitchen? How much can I spend on the home office?
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  Speaker 4: How much can I spend on the bathroom? How much
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  Speaker 4: can I? No, you have to look at your entire
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  Speaker 4: fucking income and figure out how much you can spend
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  Speaker 4: on the whole fucking thing. Because you know what, mow
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  Speaker 4: your roof doesn't need redoing this here, And maybe you
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  Speaker 4: can live with the canary yellow toilet, right, and maybe
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  Speaker 4: maybe you can fucking live with the shitty cupboards in
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  Speaker 4: the kitchen, right, maybe you can live with that, right
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  Speaker 4: and muddle through. What you really need to do is
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  Speaker 4: just like grade the yards to your basement doesn't flood, Right,
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  Speaker 4: Maybe that's what you need to concentrate on. But you
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  Speaker 4: need one plan, you need one budget, You need one
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  Speaker 4: fucking way of tackling the problem of a house. You
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  Speaker 4: can't just go room by room, right, And that's what
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  Speaker 4: Elon Musk is saying, Well, we need to do this
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  Speaker 4: room by room. No, Trump has a plan to renovate
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  Speaker 4: the entire house.
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  Speaker 1: Well, here's the thing, Like, there's the budget to renovate
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  Speaker 1: the house, and then there's going after the OA, the
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  Speaker 1: homeowners Association for their particular let's say, legislation that's preventing
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  Speaker 1: you from doing what you want with the house. And
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  Speaker 1: I'm wondering if this, like I said at the beginning,
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  Speaker 1: if there's a strategy here, because we got the budget and.
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  Speaker 4: Part of really a budget, but it's a spending bill.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, a spending bill. Sorry, budget spin on my mind
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  Speaker 1: for reasons. Yeah, No, I don't related to the fact
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: that the Canadian government, and when we're discussing this, of course,
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: the Canadian government is always worse. They don't even have
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: a there, they're just spending. So we have a whole
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: bunch of politicians and office in Canada who are basically
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: writing checks that our asses have to cash, and they're
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: telling us what they're for and what they're for or
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: even how much. But anyway, so going back to the
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: situation in the US, this is why I'm thinking that
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: there is a strategy here, because you have a situation
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: where and one of the things that I think Elon
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: Musk has said is a problem with the bill is
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: that the cuts are over the next ten years, so
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: it will reduce the deficit, but it's going to take
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: ten years to do it, you know, and Trump's out
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: in four years, and then the Congress just votes more
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: more pork, right, So I I think that part of
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: the strategies. I think again, you have the budget for
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: the renovations the House, and then you have to go
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: after the homeowners Association for the legislation that's preventing what
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: the changes you want to make. Right, So I think
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: that this is a two pronged strategy. But we'll get
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: into it first. I want to bring up another video,
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: so you're probably gonna have to change it again, Brian,
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: apologize for the clunkiness of this. Oh I've been sharing.
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: That doesn't matter. Okay, I'm going to bring up another video.
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: Let's see if I can get this, get this all sorted.
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: I have so many tabs and screens. Now, you wouldn't believe, guys.
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: I'm like just like three hundred and sixty screens. It's
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: some very very ma brixy. But okay, let me let's
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: see if I can find it. So many tabs, so
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: many tabs.
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: Okay, let me see here.
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: On X the X on X.
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: Sorry, guys, I need finding the correct here.
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: We go, here we go, Here we go.
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: Here's our friend AOC who had to chime in on
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: this ship because, of course, although you know what, I'm
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: going to say something until Musk did the whole Epstein
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: files thing, I'm actually appreciating that people are talking about
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: policy and economics and interest rates and paying off the
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: deficit rather than constantly orange man bad. That makes sense.
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, and I oh, but what about what about
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: the rape women?
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Okay, but but well, the thing is that I
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: think that was settled in like a civil it was
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: and ended up being a civil court case, which I mean,
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: which you know that doesn't necessarily mean anything. Sometimes people
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: settle with a vexatious litigate story.
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: Kate, what was settled? Yeah, yeah, No, they're bringing up
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: the Epstein files, the Epstein file.
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: No, I know, I'm sorry, I jumping around. I'm a squirrel.
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: Let us focus. Yes, Musk brought up the Epstein files
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: and that Trump is in the Epstein files and that's
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: why they haven't been released, although he said it in
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: such a vague way. I mean, Trump could have been
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: in the Epstein files, as in Epstein wrote something like
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: Trump punched me in the eye because I attempted to
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: rape someone's daughter, you know, that kind of thing. So
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: we don't even know, and it's it's vague. But when
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: he did that, I'm like, yeah, Aleen, you just delegitimized
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: your entire position. Yeah, I'm turning e drama.
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: Well, honestly, Elon Musk does have top secret clearance, but
• 20:23
  Speaker 4: that doesn't mean you just get to look at anything. Yeah, yeah, No,
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: it's it's like need to know, need to know, basis right,
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: So it's probably certain, right, it's it's like ninety nine
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: percent certain that Elon Musk hasn't seen the Epstein files.
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: He hasn't looked at them, right, and so like he
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: doesn't know, he's talking out of his ass. And if
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: he's not, I'm going to be very annoyed. But if
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: I mean, if he is, I'm also going to be
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: very annoyed because like, why don't you do that? So
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: it But but the issue is with the Epstein files.
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: Everybody knows that Trump flew on Epstein's plane. Everybody knows
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: that Trump was a friend of Epstein's.
• 21:04
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: Everybody knows from the testimony of one of Epstein's victims
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: that when she was fourteen back around two thousand, Axwell
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: and Epstein took her to meet Trump, and Trump didn't
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: do anything like, he didn't do anything inappropriate. This this
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: is all in the file.
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: Right, switch it because Karen's not you. Oh okay, well
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: can you can you do the noisegate thing again?
• 21:35
  Speaker 4: Just be me, don't switch it, because I'm about to
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: get up, uh and go do something. So just keep
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: talking and I'll be right back.
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: Well, I'm going to actually play a video, so let's
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: switch it to the video thing. Can you hear the
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: video while it's being played, Karen, Just.
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: Give me a minute and I'll be able to hear
• 21:53
  Speaker 4: it in a minute.
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: Okay, all right. So, especially when that happened, I lost
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: a lot of respect for Elon's position. I think it's
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: I think it's reasonable to have a conflict over the
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: contents of an economic a spending bill, to have a
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: conflict over these kinds of matters. In fact, I think
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: it's a good thing. Like people get really upset with arguments.
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: I mean, I personally didn't necessarily invest as much emotionally
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: in either Elon or Trump, but I think that them
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: having it out, hashing it out, maybe it could have
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: been in private, maybe it needed to be public. Who knows,
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: But hashing out the particulars of this bill and the
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: potential problems of it is actually a good sign, like
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: we should have these kinds of conversations, these even conflicts,
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: even fights over things that really matter, like government spending
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: is ultimately that in my opinion, government spending is pretty
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: much the only thing that matters, because what the government
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: is doing is it is feeding off of the market,
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: and in so doing, it's actually reducing the health of
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: the market, in my opinion, and the market represents this
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: kind of movement, this economic movement, this ability to rise
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: up in terms of economic status. So it is something
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: that I would consider to be as close as we
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: can get to a true meritocracy, which is something that
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: men need to thrive and grow and actually also develop
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: the social capital that makes them attractive to women, and
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: that is being destroyed by government spending. You see, I
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: got it back to men's issues. And that's why I
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: think that these kinds of conversations are really critical. It's
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: really critical to reign in government spending. It's really critical
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: to have this discussion. No matter how fiery or heated
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: it gets, as long as it's kept to the policies
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: as long as it's kept to criticizing the spending, the
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: bill and all of that stuff. When Elon started with
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: the Epstein files thing, that's when I lost a lot
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: of respect for him, because that's like taking it into
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: the realm of e drama and from the realm of
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: thelegitimate conflict over policy, which I think is healthy. Honestly,
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: even if it means they break up. If they have,
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: if they are presenting their opinion on this issue for
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: people to see and discuss, that's a good thing. Break
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: up like they're a couple. Sorry, but you know it's
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: it's a good thing to see that. No matter how
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: heated it gets. We need to get used to the
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: feeling of arguments, and honestly, the party that really should
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: be in power is the party that can handle the
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: biggest arguments, the biggest conflicts. I see you're nodding, So
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: maybe you agree to some degree.
• 24:35
  Speaker 4: I agree to some degree, and I definitely agree Elon
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: should not have like, yeah, that was, I mean.
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: That was that was not cricket.
• 24:47
  Speaker 4: But if he doesn't have, no, I mean, like maybe
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: it is if you have the.
• 24:51
  Speaker 12: Receipts, yeah, I mean, you don't have If you don't
• 24:55
  Speaker 12: have the receipt, don't do it, right, Yeah, don't say
• 24:59
  Speaker 12: something like that without ev But the other thing is
• 25:01
  Speaker 12: that what he said was so vague.
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: Who knows what it means?
• 25:06
  Speaker 11: Right?
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: Like I mean, Epstein could have could have mentioned Trump
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: as his arch nemesis. Who knows?
• 25:12
  Speaker 6: Right?
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, so this is okay, So Brian, we're back
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: on the video, so please switch it to that.
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: Okay, I'm gonna I'm gonna get up again right now again?
• 25:22
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• 25:27
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• 25:29
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• 25:33
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  Speaker 1: all the things, And it looks like Karen has returned.
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  Speaker 1: So let's finally get to aoc hanging on this particular
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: video for a while. Now, let's see where it doesn't
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: help that I have my welder's goggles on to find
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: where my mouse has gone. Okay, we're ready to play
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: the video, Brian, So let's let's change it to giving
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: you a moment to change it to the just give
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: me an indication that you have Yeah, it's done.
• 28:10
  Speaker 7: If you play the video, it'll automatically switch to that scene,
• 28:15
  Speaker 7: but if you talk while it's playing, it'll switch to
• 28:18
  Speaker 7: whoever's talking.
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: So all right, I won't talk any quick reactions. Are fighting,
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: aren't they?
• 28:23
  Speaker 8: You know?
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: I would say that this was something that was a
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: long time coming, where we've been seeing that these two
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: huge egos.
• 28:34
  Speaker 4: Were not long for being together in this world as
• 28:38
  Speaker 4: as as friends, and so I think we're I think
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: this breakup we've been seeing a long time coming. But
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: we'll see what the impacts are are of it legislatively.
• 28:48
  Speaker 4: Thank you so much.
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: Any quick reaction on what's going on with Elon Musk
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: and President Trump on Twitter?
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: Right now?
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: Okay, no more, no more? Oh see, of course she's
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: all over this like white on Rice.
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: Huh.
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I know. But what she's saying is sensible two
• 29:00
  Speaker 4: men with huge egos.
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's what it appears to be. But is
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: that like, Oh, I think there is something more to it.
• 29:07
  Speaker 4: You're always looking, You're always looking, You're like out, should
• 29:11
  Speaker 4: I just change your name to Alex.
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: Alex Jones, Alex Jones, Alex Jones team and maybe so
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: I'm always looking for the deeper thing.
• 29:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah, no, You're always looking for the undercurrents and the conspiracies.
• 29:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, Well, I don't know. I think I think, honestly,
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: if this is a ploy, right, and I do think
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: I do actually think that Trump is capable of, you know,
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: extrapolating a few steps ahead right in his little particular
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: chess game, and maybe you know, maybe maybe, well no,
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: but he wouldn't have used Elon.
• 29:44
  Speaker 8: If they haven't fallen out.
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: He wouldn't have used Elon if this was just like
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: a big act, right, He wouldn't have had Elon do
• 29:53
  Speaker 4: the Epstein file thing, because if and when the Epstein
• 29:56
  Speaker 4: files do come out and Trump's not in them or
• 29:58
  Speaker 4: not in the in the in them in an incriminating way, right,
• 30:03
  Speaker 4: Elon's just going to look like a fucking retard. Yeah yeah,
• 30:06
  Speaker 4: so yeah, yeah, No, It's it's like there, like, there's
• 30:10
  Speaker 4: literally no way that I can see this being some
• 30:15
  Speaker 4: kind of you know, collaborative stunt that they're pulling where
• 30:19
  Speaker 4: they both have the same goal and they're going after
• 30:22
  Speaker 4: the same things. I think, you know, I do think
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: Elon was overstating it when he said that Trump would
• 30:29
  Speaker 4: have lost without him?
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think honestly, Trump.
• 30:33
  Speaker 4: Might have lost without him, but he you can't say
• 30:36
  Speaker 4: he would have.
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: Let's put it this way.
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: I don't think either of them are going to be
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: better off without the other, shall we say? Because you know,
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: SpaceX is I believe it's how the US gets into
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: space now large Oh yeah, yeahs a huge amount of
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: the bills, like the tax bill of the for the US.
• 30:57
  Speaker 4: So yeah, no. And when Elon said he was just
• 30:59
  Speaker 4: gonna like decommissioned Dragon, right, well, Dragon was the spacecraft
• 31:05
  Speaker 4: that rescued those two astronauts from the International Space Station. Yeah, yeah,
• 31:10
  Speaker 4: like that. That was like, yeah, no, I guess I'll
• 31:13
  Speaker 4: just start disassembling it.
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: Now, that's that's not that's unfortunate.
• 31:16
  Speaker 4: But yeah, he's going he's not gonna do that, right.
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: Okay, But I take your point with I take your
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: point with what you said about the Epstein files comment
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: that it will be embarrassing if there's nothing to deliver.
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: But that's why I said that. It's so vague. It's
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: like Trump is in the Epstein files with no specification,
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: but he knows that.
• 31:35
  Speaker 4: Trump is in the Epstein files, because you know what
• 31:38
  Speaker 4: else is in the Epstein files, the flight rosters.
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it could just be like, you can
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: say this vague thing and then afterwards we find out
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: that it's really harmless.
• 31:50
  Speaker 8: And it's just what was already publicly known.
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, and then from.
• 31:55
  Speaker 8: The rides between New York and Florida.
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: That makes that makes Elon technically correct.
• 32:00
  Speaker 8: Technically correct.
• 32:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I guess he's I guess he's enough an autist
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: that's the bestist to think that it's the best.
• 32:08
  Speaker 8: Kind kind of correct.
• 32:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: Well, well, Musk is nothing if not somewhere on the spectrum.
• 32:15
  Speaker 4: No, he's definitely somewhere on the spectrum. But what I'm
• 32:19
  Speaker 4: saying is, right like, regardless of what his motivations were,
• 32:23
  Speaker 4: this was a bad move, right Like, that accusation was
• 32:28
  Speaker 4: a bad move because Musk has had top secret clearance
• 32:33
  Speaker 4: for some time now. So if he had inside information
• 32:37
  Speaker 4: about the Epstein files based on his top secret access,
• 32:41
  Speaker 4: that would have started during Biden's administration and during Trump's
• 32:46
  Speaker 4: first term, right, Okay, And like okay, so when did
• 32:51
  Speaker 4: you have access to this information and you endorsed him?
• 32:54
  Speaker 4: Now he's got to go back and say, oh, honest,
• 32:57
  Speaker 4: I never actually looked until the big beautiful bill annoyed me.
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's yeah, it's a bit thin. Okay, Brian, the
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: it's stuck on the video. Now, this is this is
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: I don't mean to annoy you, but this.
• 33:10
  Speaker 6: Is sort of the let's do this.
• 33:11
  Speaker 7: Okay, when you guys are gonna have a conversation, tell
• 33:15
  Speaker 7: me and I'll turn on the switcher so that you
• 33:17
  Speaker 7: two talk when you're ready to play the video.
• 33:20
  Speaker 6: We have to do this one of two ways, okay.
• 33:22
  Speaker 7: Either you're going to I'm gonna leave all of the
• 33:25
  Speaker 7: automatic scenes switching things on, which means you guys have
• 33:28
  Speaker 7: to not talk when you're playing the video. Or I'm
• 33:31
  Speaker 7: gonna leave that off and you know, like, you're just
• 33:34
  Speaker 7: gonna have to tell me when you're gonna talk so
• 33:36
  Speaker 7: I can turn it on.
• 33:37
  Speaker 4: Well I know, I mean, I don't care about being
• 33:40
  Speaker 4: on camera.
• 33:41
  Speaker 8: Jesus Christ.
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: All right, No, it's just just just between me and Brian.
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: You don't have to worry about it, okay, Brian, I
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: will give you an indication when we're starting chat and
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: when we're actually playing a video.
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: Okay, all right, So that's that's how we'll deal with this.
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: Our lack of mike discipline.
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: Shall we say?
• 34:02
  Speaker 4: But what are we doing right now?
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: What we're doing right now?
• 34:06
  Speaker 4: Is uh?
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: So you think AOC has a point?
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: I think that she's just gloating over this.
• 34:10
  Speaker 8: Doesn't mean she doesn't have a point.
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess, Yeah, you're right, you're right.
• 34:14
  Speaker 6: But I know it's not my business.
• 34:16
  Speaker 7: But can I give my my my impression of this
• 34:19
  Speaker 7: AOC thing. Isn't it funny that she immediately starts by
• 34:23
  Speaker 7: saying the girls are finals, as though to essentially compare
• 34:27
  Speaker 7: a man when when a man is misbehaving, they become a.
• 34:31
  Speaker 6: Girl to her? Isn't that interesting?
• 34:33
  Speaker 7: Isn't she supposed to be like a feminist that doesn't
• 34:35
  Speaker 7: think women you that? Isn't that a sexist remark or
• 34:38
  Speaker 7: a transphobic one or something?
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: That's a really good point, Brian, Not, it's not really
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: good point.
• 34:43
  Speaker 4: No, no, it's not a good point.
• 34:45
  Speaker 13: As stated, when men cause drama, interpersonal drama with their
• 34:51
  Speaker 13: friends in this way, it is very typical of female
• 34:56
  Speaker 13: interpersonal aggression.
• 34:58
  Speaker 4: The bags dabbing.
• 34:59
  Speaker 7: No, I agreed, I agree, but no, Aaron, I get it.
• 35:03
  Speaker 7: But according to feminist logic. According to feminist logic, if
• 35:07
  Speaker 7: you compare any behavior that is childish to a woman,
• 35:11
  Speaker 7: that's sexist. So I'm saying that she's applying something that
• 35:16
  Speaker 7: would not go over well with feminists of what she
• 35:19
  Speaker 7: is supposed.
• 35:19
  Speaker 4: To be one two men.
• 35:21
  Speaker 6: That's what I'm saying.
• 35:23
  Speaker 7: That's not my judgment. I'm going off of her logic.
• 35:26
  Speaker 7: This is Saulalynsky's rules for radicals.
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I have to agree with Brian, like AOC
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: is a feminist, right, So she is supposed to reject
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: this kind of femophobia, which is the association of anything
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: feminine with the negative I assume at the same time
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: as saying that masculinity is toxic and identifying no positive masculinity.
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: So this is, as Brian said, sexism. She's engaging in
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: internalized misogyny. But she cannot resist. She can't resist emasculating
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: and elon. Not that I think either of them would
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: really care that much, but regardless, she can't resist that,
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: which is this is the fundamental thing that I've noticed
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: with a lot of feminists. They want to be regarded,
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: they want to be regarded as good as men, but
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: still shame men for not being better than women. Have
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: you noticed that it reminds me of betweet exchange that
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: I got in. And I've mentioned this multiple times, but
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: I'll do it again where I got it. I got
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: into an argument with a feminist and she thought I
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: was a man because you know, I have this magnificent jawline.
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: And she essentially said that I, when she started to
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: lose the argument, that I was not man enough to
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: save her when she when she was in her weakness.
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: And I'm like, so you're using your incompetence and weakness
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: to shame me as a man. So you're basically saying
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: that as a woman, I'm lesser. But because I'm lesser,
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: that means that you, as a man, need to save me.
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: I'm like, is that empowerment? That's what she's doing here.
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: She's saying girls engage in this kind of drama and inability, snippiness,
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: and inability to be disciplined in public, not men. Therefore,
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: I'm going to shame these two men as not living
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: up to the standard of men. Meanwhile, she won't acknowledge
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: that there is a standard for men. You know, the
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: whole inventory, a masculine norms inventory that feminists reduced from
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: this is your thing, Karen, you talk about it a lot.
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: They reduced what is seen as manhood from you know, protector, provider, discipline,
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: yeah yeah, and also controlling your emotions, you know, having
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: message discipline, being professional that's associated with manhood all the
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: way down to one positive trait, which was playboy. And
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: then we have Andrew Tate. So I mean, this is
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: the this is this is the thing, ladies. If you
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: want to be seen as responsible, troll, plan et cetera,
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: as men, you have to let go of being of
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: shaming men and as better than you on those ways.
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean, Like, you can't do this
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: because go ahead.
• 38:09
  Speaker 8: I think I know what you're getting at.
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: Well, good, good, somebody does.
• 38:13
  Speaker 4: Go ahead. She's holding these men to the standards, the
• 38:18
  Speaker 4: traditional standards of men, which is, you know what, if
• 38:22
  Speaker 4: you have it out right, you have it out okay.
• 38:24
  Speaker 4: Like we were just watching an episode of We're like
• 38:30
  Speaker 4: on our fifth run through of Star Trek the Next
• 38:33
  Speaker 4: Generation here and it was the one called Family. The
• 38:36
  Speaker 4: episode called Family where Picard he's just been rescued from
• 38:41
  Speaker 4: like his stint as Locutus of Borg and he goes
• 38:45
  Speaker 4: home to visit his brother right, and they don't like
• 38:48
  Speaker 4: each other and they have an argument, but they have
• 38:52
  Speaker 4: an argument by themselves in the middle of a fucking vineyard, right,
• 38:56
  Speaker 4: and they come to blows and they end up rolling
• 38:59
  Speaker 4: around in the mud, right and beating on each other.
• 39:03
  Speaker 4: And then they go home and track mud all through
• 39:07
  Speaker 4: the house and get drunk and everything's kind of mended, right,
• 39:11
  Speaker 4: you know, like.
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: Sorry, is this the Quiet Man movie?
• 39:16
  Speaker 4: No, this is Star Trek the next generation.
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: That's also in The Quiet Man too. Actually this is
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: very common.
• 39:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah. No, it's like Gilgamesh and fucking innkey Do. Yeah,
• 39:25
  Speaker 4: they ontil the walls of Uruk shuddered, right, And when
• 39:30
  Speaker 4: Gilgamesh finally struck down Do and won the fight, and
• 39:33
  Speaker 4: he picked it, put out his hand and lifted and
• 39:37
  Speaker 4: they embraced as brothers and they were like inseparable ever since.
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: He means friendship. Very common trope and shown an anime well.
• 39:45
  Speaker 4: In all masculine literature dating back to like four thousand
• 39:49
  Speaker 4: fucking BC. So you have this, this way that men
• 39:53
  Speaker 4: are expected to behave. They're not expected to air their
• 39:56
  Speaker 4: freaking grievances in public, right. This is why drama channels
• 40:01
  Speaker 4: are so like, you know, you watch them, you know
• 40:04
  Speaker 4: YouTube drama channels, you watch them like a Keeam Star
• 40:07
  Speaker 4: and other channels like that, right, and you watch them,
• 40:10
  Speaker 4: but then you feel dirty afterwards, like you need to
• 40:13
  Speaker 4: take a shower, right, because grown ass men shouldn't be
• 40:16
  Speaker 4: behaving this way, right, Right. If they have differences, they
• 40:21
  Speaker 4: should settle them in private, right, and then that's the
• 40:26
  Speaker 4: end of it, right, as opposed to constantly poking and
• 40:29
  Speaker 4: poking and poking publicly.
• 40:30
  Speaker 11: Right.
• 40:31
  Speaker 8: And that's what this is.
• 40:33
  Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, if you're gonna call I mean, it's
• 40:37
  Speaker 4: it's different. It's different when Trump's going after the enemy, right,
• 40:41
  Speaker 4: when he's on on Twitter going after the enemy or
• 40:44
  Speaker 4: on truth social going after the enemy, right, when he's
• 40:48
  Speaker 4: when he's in public hammering the enemy the adversary, right.
• 40:53
  Speaker 8: But it's another thing when you're doing.
• 40:54
  Speaker 4: It with someone that you called friend, someone that who
• 40:57
  Speaker 4: you were allied with, someone who helped you. Right, it's
• 41:00
  Speaker 4: a little different. But I don't think Trump started this.
• 41:05
  Speaker 4: He didn't start this public feud, right, Elon started the
• 41:09
  Speaker 4: public feud.
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I mean like it wasn't a feud so
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: much as criticism of Trump's the big beautiful.
• 41:16
  Speaker 8: Bill, Beautiful Bill, I think it's fair. And Trump was asked.
• 41:19
  Speaker 4: About it and he answered and he was like, yeah, no.
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: And then it's evolved.
• 41:24
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: Somebody mentions in the in the special chat, oh special
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: chat actually had an interesting thought. Jacobus Peterson says, from
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: a pure risk point of view, it's a risky for
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: Monk or Musk to be associated with only one political party.
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: Could the current kerfuffle, including it's over the top nature,
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: be the way to create deniability?
• 41:41
  Speaker 4: That's possible to That's what I thought, right, That's that
• 41:45
  Speaker 4: was my original thought. Like, you know, because he's done
• 41:49
  Speaker 4: his stint in government, his one hundred and thirty days
• 41:51
  Speaker 4: are up. He's got to go back to managing his companies, right,
• 41:55
  Speaker 4: that's his only job now, and he can't afford for
• 41:58
  Speaker 4: terrorists to be going and around fire bombing Tesla's anymore.
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you know, And it's that that could be
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: a possibility. I think there's one other possibility, and I'd.
• 42:08
  Speaker 4: Like to there's a big public breakup, a big public
• 42:11
  Speaker 4: breakup right between and over something. Okay, now, now, now
• 42:16
  Speaker 4: I think we're on something over something very progressive, like
• 42:20
  Speaker 4: Elon's mad that we're defunding green energy.
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, no, and.
• 42:27
  Speaker 4: Elon's upset about that. Right, then maybe the fire bombing
• 42:31
  Speaker 4: of the Tesla's will stop.
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe, And and it just takes you know, Trump
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: has to take a little bit on the chin. But
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: of course, you know, if the Epstein files, if Musk
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: doesn't follow through or if it's ridiculous, then he loses
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: a bit of points. But probably not with the people
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: who are fire bombing tesla's.
• 42:48
  Speaker 4: Well, he can't, he can't follow through because he doesn't
• 42:51
  Speaker 4: have the documents. Yeah, and there are people now saying,
• 42:55
  Speaker 4: you know, speculating that. Okay, the reason why the FBI
• 42:59
  Speaker 4: rated marilog mar a Lago was because Trump brought the
• 43:03
  Speaker 4: Epstein files with him, right to conceal his wrongdoing. And
• 43:07
  Speaker 4: I'm like no, no, no, no, no, no no, because if
• 43:13
  Speaker 4: those documents all stayed at the FBI and you know,
• 43:18
  Speaker 4: at the Archives, they were never going to come out ever,
• 43:23
  Speaker 4: right because even if Trump is implicated, there are so
• 43:28
  Speaker 4: many other people implicated in those files, important people, right
• 43:33
  Speaker 4: that there's just no way that they were gonna like
• 43:36
  Speaker 4: not to not just to get Trump right, Like, yeah, no,
• 43:40
  Speaker 4: you're not, yeah, no. What what Trump brought with him
• 43:43
  Speaker 4: was the Russia Gate file, about half of the documents
• 43:47
  Speaker 4: in the Russia Gate file. And if you actually watch
• 43:49
  Speaker 4: the documentary the plot against the President, it's it's very
• 43:53
  Speaker 4: easy to see how those documents would be damning. And
• 43:57
  Speaker 4: I can almost guarantee you, and here I am channeling
• 44:01
  Speaker 4: my inner Alex Jones, I can almost guarantee you that
• 44:05
  Speaker 4: those original documents, about half of the entire file that
• 44:10
  Speaker 4: were smuggled out of the White House before Trump left office,
• 44:14
  Speaker 4: out of Washington, DC and brought to mar A Lago.
• 44:17
  Speaker 4: I don't know whether they were brought to mar A Lago.
• 44:20
  Speaker 4: I think they were brought to Bedminster and they were
• 44:22
  Speaker 4: buried with Ivana in a hermetically sealed casket on private property.
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: Are you saying that there might be a scandal there.
• 44:29
  Speaker 4: I'm saying that Trump brought those documents with him as
• 44:33
  Speaker 4: a form of life insurance. And yeah, and it was
• 44:36
  Speaker 4: like and I think if I was him, If I
• 44:39
  Speaker 4: was him, I would have copied every single one of
• 44:42
  Speaker 4: them and put them on thumb drives and distributed them
• 44:45
  Speaker 4: to like eight or ten people, very highly trusted people,
• 44:48
  Speaker 4: with like a little note saying upload if I die
• 44:52
  Speaker 4: by assassination.
• 44:53
  Speaker 8: Yeah, upload everywhere.
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: No, just upload if I die, because those assassins they
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: can be really sneaky.
• 44:59
  Speaker 8: Yeah, they're sneaky.
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: Okay, So, Brian, I'm gonna do a video now, so
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: please switch it to the video screen for me, because
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna go into I'm gonna go I'm gonna put
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: on my Alex Jones hat, the hat the Special Chat
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: hates so much, and I already have it on, eh,
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: And and we're gonna go into a deep dive into
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: Allison's scorely acquiring of different clues to paint a paint
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: a picture?
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: Are we are we there?
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: Brian, just tell me when we're ready. Yeah, okay, So
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: just listen to this. This is one of my favorite,
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: like financial channels.
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: It's called Johnny Bravo.
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: I like how entertaining he is, but so he has
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: some thoughts and then after watching what he he put together,
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: I saw something else that was really interesting and I
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: think it might give some more light into what's going
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: on between Elon and Trump and tie back to you know,
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: submitting a budget for renovating your house versus going after
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: the home owners association for the legislation that prevents you
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: from doing so. Ope, you guys, hear about oh.
• 46:03
  Speaker 9: And you get to pay for it in your taxes.
• 46:05
  Speaker 6: Milton, free.
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: Is it good?
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: Is it good?
• 46:07
  Speaker 4: Brian?
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: Is it all going through?
• 46:09
  Speaker 6: Yeah, it's fine.
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: Okay, So this is uh, this is here are milk.
• 46:13
  Speaker 9: It says this perfectly. Listen to what good old Milt
• 46:16
  Speaker 9: has to say. It's very, very simple. This is the
• 46:19
  Speaker 9: only number you.
• 46:20
  Speaker 6: Ever have to look at, actually lie about.
• 46:22
  Speaker 9: It's actually the twelve trillion.
• 46:24
  Speaker 5: Keep your eye on one thing, and one thing only,
• 46:26
  Speaker 5: how much government is spending, because that's the true tax.
• 46:29
  Speaker 11: Every budget is balanced.
• 46:31
  Speaker 5: There is no such thing as an unbalanced federal budget.
• 46:34
  Speaker 5: You're paying for it if you're not paying for it
• 46:37
  Speaker 5: through it in the form of explicit taxes. You're paying
• 46:40
  Speaker 5: for it indirectly, in the form of inflection or in
• 46:43
  Speaker 5: the form of borrowing. The thing you should keep your
• 46:45
  Speaker 5: eye on.
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: The government is parasitic on the market. So we have
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: different kinds of economic systems. The Austrian which is basically
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: just leave it to the market, everything, including even if
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: there's a depression or a recession.
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: Then we have Keynesian, which.
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: Is government interference if we have a recession to try to,
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: you know, jump start spending again to reduce the amount
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: of recession. And then we have modern monetary theory, which
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: is the government is entirely responsible for the economy. So
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: when it's a boom, it's the government, when it's the recession,
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: it's the gover.
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: It's always the government.
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: So somehow, if we get enough government intervention, we won't
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: we will have eternal prosperity for the end of time.
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: And he's pointing out that this isn't the case because
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: government spending inevitably leads to higher taxes, even tariffs will
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: end up impacting the American consumer and buying dollar or
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: taxes unseen taxes in terms of inflation.
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: But the other thing it does is government.
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: Spending essentially takes a meritocracy and turns it into a
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: top down choosing the winners and losers. It gets rid
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: of the upward mobility, It gets rid of the ability
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: for men to really develop that social cachet in order
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: to be attractive to women, which then destroys pair bonding.
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: But here's here's what else. And this is getting back
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: into what I think is going on between Elon and Musk,
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: because again and Truman and Trump, Musk and Trump. Thank you, Karen,
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: I really appreciate that you're really helping me be actually
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: intelligible to other human beings.
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: I appreciate that.
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: So what's happening between Musk and Trump and speaks to
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: an ultimate goal in controlling government spending long term, because
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: this bill cannot control government spending long term, as Musk
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: has pointed out, you know it's a savings over what
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: one point seven reducing the budget one point seven over
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: ten years. But you know there's gonna be new administrations.
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: You just can't promise that.
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: But there might be.
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: A way to actually long term reduce government spending.
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: So let's listen to this fixed.
• 48:49
  Speaker 9: Everyone knows it, Warren Buffett knows it.
• 48:52
  Speaker 6: I know it, Elon.
• 48:53
  Speaker 2: So this is the fix. This is what he's talking about.
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: This is the way to permanently fix government overspend.
• 49:00
  Speaker 11: Know it.
• 49:01
  Speaker 6: You could solve the deficit.
• 49:02
  Speaker 9: You can solve everything in five minutes. It'll never be solved.
• 49:06
  Speaker 6: You just pass a law. That's it.
• 49:08
  Speaker 9: Anytime there is a deficit of more than three percent
• 49:10
  Speaker 9: of GDP, all sitting members of Congress are ineligible for
• 49:14
  Speaker 9: re election.
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: If your Elon Musk wrote on X this is the way, right, So,
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: and I want to go through the tweet sequence of
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: So this is uh. I wanted to get some confirmation
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: of Elon actually agreeing with this. So Larren Buffett says,
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: you you pass a law that says anytime there's a
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: deficit of more than three percent of GDP, all sitting
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: members of Congress are ineligible for re election. And then
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: Elon Musk says, this is the way, this is the
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: way to do it. And so I found this tweet.
• 49:43
  Speaker 4: This is what.
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: Johnny Bravo is referencing. And I wanted to get confirmation,
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: and I believe I found it here. Justin Elon Musk's
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: endorsed a constitutional amendment which would make members of Congress
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: ineligible for re election if the deficit is more than
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: three percent of GDP. Lawmakers would shape up quickly. And yeah,
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: this is Warren Buffett's idea, but he has he endorsed it.
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: June fourth, twenty twenty five. Wait, let me finish, Let
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: me finish. Okay, now this was June July. Oh oh, okay,
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: Actually this was way back when. By twenty twelve, and
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: this is from Donald Trump.
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: No member of.
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: Congress should be eligible for re election if our country's
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: budget is not balanced. Deficits not allowed, right, so he
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: actually agreed with that thirteen years ago. So this is
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: something I'm just I'm just laying it out here.
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: I don't know if it's correct.
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: Maybe what's happening is you're pursuing the bill, get the
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: bill passed, and then pursue a constitutional amendment maybe in
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: which the essentially Congress members of Congress shouldn't be eligible
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: for election if our country's budget is not or essentially
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: deficits not allowed.
• 50:56
  Speaker 8: That is no, that is stupid. That number one.
• 51:00
  Speaker 4: That's stupid. That is a stupid, stupid idea, because then
• 51:04
  Speaker 4: Rand Paul would be gone, Mike Lee would be gone,
• 51:06
  Speaker 4: ineligible for re election.
• 51:08
  Speaker 8: All of the people in Congress right.
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: Second, got to change it back to us talking, Brian
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: can continue, Karen.
• 51:14
  Speaker 4: All of the people in Congress right now who are
• 51:17
  Speaker 4: fighting to curb deficits, to eliminate deficits would be as
• 51:23
  Speaker 4: gone as all of the freaking Nancy Pelosis and the aocs. Okay, So,
• 51:28
  Speaker 4: like anybody who votes for legislation, yes, I think that.
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: That's sort of I mean it's in a tweet, right,
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: I think that's sort of implied. It's the people who
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: vote for it who agree to continue to have deficits
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: that should be ineligible for Congress to run for Congress.
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: So either you control government spending or you're out of government,
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: and really like this is this is the thing, and
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: this is something that this is why I appreciate, aside
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: from the bringing up the Epstein files, which wasn't cricket
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: and I think a low blow, I appreciate the conversation
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: going back to government spending because that's really what matters
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: in my opinion, that's really what's causing a lot of
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: these issues and the destruction of upward mobility, the destruction
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: of people being able to form families or men being
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: able to become attractive to women by gaining a financial law.
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: And I mean also, the government ends up doing this
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: song and dance in order to excuse it's it's it's spending.
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: And you know what, they hide all of this because
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: if you think about it, they're writing a blank check
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: that we have to pay for and they're definitely doing
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: this in Canada, but they hide this behind this kind
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: of self righteous framework in which they're saving us from ourselves.
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: They're saving they're they're making us better people because we're
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: not going to be sexist we're not going to be
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: destroying the environment, we're not going to be transphobic, we're
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: not going to be gay. So they have this self
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: righteous narrative which is excusing the fact that they're squatting
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: on our work. That makes sense, do you see what
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: I'm saying.
• 53:05
  Speaker 4: Don't get me started on Canadian politics right now?
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: Okay, you can start.
• 53:10
  Speaker 4: No, No, I can't. I can't, and I won't because
• 53:14
  Speaker 4: I'm I'm just about ready to minecraft.
• 53:18
  Speaker 14: I'm just about ready to to to just be just
• 53:23
  Speaker 14: wash my hands with political commentary altogether and just start
• 53:27
  Speaker 14: watching fluffy cute pet videos.
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: What look just say it is being a disingenuous ass.
• 53:35
  Speaker 4: Carney. Carney is such a freaking lying liar. And he's
• 53:39
  Speaker 4: got to tell right, Like one side of his mouth
• 53:42
  Speaker 4: goes up whenever he's uttering a lie right like he's
• 53:45
  Speaker 4: he's got very very obvious duper's delight or duping delight
• 53:49
  Speaker 4: or whatever you call it, right, and it's there all
• 53:52
  Speaker 4: the time. He's just absolutely you know, like in one
• 53:56
  Speaker 4: Andrews Sheer right when he knows he's he's got him
• 54:00
  Speaker 4: by the short and curlies with some point of logic. Right,
• 54:04
  Speaker 4: he gets that cute, little kind of chip monkey smile
• 54:07
  Speaker 4: that he gets right because he knows he's got him right.
• 54:10
  Speaker 4: But but yeah, no, It's like I look at politics
• 54:13
  Speaker 4: in Canada and I'm just like, you know, honestly, we're
• 54:17
  Speaker 4: being largely ruled by retards, and and it's it's and
• 54:23
  Speaker 4: they use this moralizing, right, like if you don't if
• 54:27
  Speaker 4: you don't support Okay, do you know what they're bringing
• 54:30
  Speaker 4: in in Canada, Alice, Goodlord, any cash, any cash transaction
• 54:34
  Speaker 4: over ten thousand dollars will be banned, banned banned cash transaction, Yeah,
• 54:42
  Speaker 4: will be banned.
• 54:42
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: Well, they're probably doing it because of you know, drug
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: trade or something or that allegedly. I'm sure though they're
• 54:48
  Speaker 1: vitalizing it.
• 54:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah. But at the same time, it's like, well, they
• 54:53
  Speaker 4: want everything to be electronic and trace every dollar you spend.
• 54:58
  Speaker 4: They want to have a electronic a data. It's got
• 55:02
  Speaker 4: to be in a database somewhere right where you spent it,
• 55:05
  Speaker 4: who you paid it to, what you spent it on.
• 55:07
  Speaker 4: And it's just like, yeah, no, no more living off
• 55:10
  Speaker 4: the grid. Right, Like my son, right, he worked in
• 55:14
  Speaker 4: my oldest he's worked in kitchens for ages and ages, right,
• 55:17
  Speaker 4: and he keeps his money under a mattress, right, because
• 55:21
  Speaker 4: he gets tips, Right, he keeps it under a mattress,
• 55:23
  Speaker 4: and he doesn't spend it at the grocery store. He
• 55:25
  Speaker 4: uses his bank card and every once in a while
• 55:27
  Speaker 4: he goes in and sometimes he has a lot of
• 55:29
  Speaker 4: money when he goes in to deposit his cash. Right,
• 55:32
  Speaker 4: either that or he just keeps it under the mattress
• 55:35
  Speaker 4: just in case. And it's just like, yeah, no, Like
• 55:40
  Speaker 4: they want to get rid of cash. They want to
• 55:42
  Speaker 4: get rid of cash. And if they were even remotely
• 55:45
  Speaker 4: capable of actually detecting money launderers right or willing to
• 55:54
  Speaker 4: do it, they would be doing it. Right. How long
• 55:58
  Speaker 4: was freaking Hunter Biden laundering money millions of dollars of
• 56:05
  Speaker 4: money and evating taxes? Like how long were you doing that? Right?
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: But that's the thing.
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: It's like, and I'm gonna I'm always going to appreciate
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: Doge and Trump for exposing the sheer amount of waste
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: and graft and I mean, just to know I graft
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: and grift, Like, just to know what they these politicians
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: are getting away with and excusing behind all of these
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: narratives in which they have moral moral superiority over the
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: people that they govern, that they have the right to
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: go in and tell people their business. Meanwhile, meanwhile they're
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: basically like they're basically they're basically living in our basement. Yeah,
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: writing checks.
• 56:47
  Speaker 4: Let's just let's just look at one one instance of
• 56:50
  Speaker 4: this kind of government funded, non governmental organization grift, Peter
• 56:56
  Speaker 4: Dashk Eco Health Alliance.
• 56:58
  Speaker 8: Tell me about.
• 56:59
  Speaker 4: It applies to DARPA, the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency.
• 57:04
  Speaker 4: He wants to take a bat coronavirus from a specific
• 57:07
  Speaker 4: cave in southern Yunnan Province in China, and he wants
• 57:11
  Speaker 4: to slap a couple of features onto it, Right, a
• 57:13
  Speaker 4: fere in cleavage site, which would make it extremely contagious
• 57:17
  Speaker 4: to humans. Right, have a high affinity to human cell receptors,
• 57:20
  Speaker 4: and a mutation on the RF eight gene. Right, that
• 57:24
  Speaker 4: would extend the period of infection where you don't have
• 57:29
  Speaker 4: any symptoms. So where you're you don't have symptoms, but
• 57:33
  Speaker 4: you are infectious and you can transmit it to others, right, Okay,
• 57:37
  Speaker 4: spend that period. And DARPA was like, are you fucking retarded?
• 57:41
  Speaker 4: And they rejected his grant applications. So then he went
• 57:45
  Speaker 4: to USAID and to National Institutes for Health and National
• 57:50
  Speaker 4: Institute of Allergy Infectious Diseases. You know, I don't know,
• 57:55
  Speaker 4: I don't know whether he was totally straight up on
• 57:58
  Speaker 4: what the project was with those guys, but he got
• 58:02
  Speaker 4: a grant, and he never actually in the two years
• 58:06
  Speaker 4: or three years that passed where until we finally, you know,
• 58:12
  Speaker 4: all kind of agreed. Yeah, it came from that fucking lab. Right,
• 58:16
  Speaker 4: never freaking gave any updates on what the money had
• 58:20
  Speaker 4: been spent on and what the progress of the project was. Right,
• 58:24
  Speaker 4: And these are mandatory updates, right, They're supposed to submit
• 58:28
  Speaker 4: them every like three months or six months or whatever.
• 58:31
  Speaker 4: Here's what we're spending the money on, and here's how
• 58:33
  Speaker 4: the project's going, and here's where. This is where we're at,
• 58:37
  Speaker 4: and you know, this is what we've accomplished so far. Right,
• 58:39
  Speaker 4: you're supposed to be submitted. Never submitted any updates. Nih
• 58:43
  Speaker 4: and NIAID never freaking called him on it, right, And
• 58:48
  Speaker 4: so it turns out it turns out that the closest
• 58:53
  Speaker 4: genetic relative to SARS Kobe two is a specific back
• 58:57
  Speaker 4: coronavirus found in a specific batcave in southern Yunon. That
• 59:01
  Speaker 4: was the virus named in the DARPA project. And the
• 59:04
  Speaker 4: only thing that differentiates it from that virus, that original
• 59:08
  Speaker 4: virus is if you're in cleavage site and a mutation
• 59:10
  Speaker 4: on the RIFH gene. Yeah, and no oversight, none, no
• 59:16
  Speaker 4: oversight at all. Right. In fact, in the margin notes
• 59:20
  Speaker 4: of the drafts of the application that they sent to DARPA,
• 59:23
  Speaker 4: because this is all Foyd right, in the margin notes,
• 59:26
  Speaker 4: the authors of this grant application for DARPA were saying, geez,
• 59:31
  Speaker 4: if anybody figured out we were going to do this
• 59:33
  Speaker 4: in Wuhan, they'd be losing their minds, right, they'd lose
• 59:37
  Speaker 4: their shit, They'd be freaking out right.
• 59:39
  Speaker 8: That the application itself said.
• 59:42
  Speaker 4: That they were going to do the work in North
• 59:44
  Speaker 4: Carolina under the direct supervision of doctor Ralph Barrick, But
• 59:47
  Speaker 4: they the entire time they were planning to outsource it
• 59:50
  Speaker 4: to fucking Wuhan.
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: Was it cheaper there or something like way cheaper? Well,
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: that's really suspicious.
• 59:57
  Speaker 2: I wonder if anything bad came of that.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah, no, no, And it's like, and this is why,
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 4: when you know, it was January thirtieth or something like that,
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 4: when when the public health Emergency of International Concern was
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 4: finally declared a month and a half late by the
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 4: World Health Organization. Okay, when they finally declared that, then
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 4: Fauci was up into the wee hours of the morning,
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 4: up until like three four am, sending emails, setting up
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 4: phone calls. We need to find out, you know, assigning
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 4: Francis Collins, who was the head of the NIH at
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 4: the time, right, Fauci was head of the NIA AID. Right,
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 4: we need to find out that nothing that we funded
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 4: is attached to could possibly be attached to this, right
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 4: And and well, you know, I guess there was nothing
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 4: specific except the DARPA grant application, and then Dazak once
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 4: he got rejected, just going to these other guys and
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 4: getting money from them for vaguer projects that you know,
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 4: and then no oversight. And it's just like these people, right,
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 4: they're fucking retards, right, Dartha, We're not retards. They were like, Okay,
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 4: so it's a mucosal respiratory virus. You can't vaccinate against
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 4: transmission or infection. That doesn't work with these types of viruses.
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 4: It just doesn't. It's just the nature of the virus
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 4: and the nature of the infection and the nature of
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 4: our immune systems. You can't vaccinate against it. Right, Even
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 4: previous infection only really protects you for a couple of years. Right,
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 4: But vaccination flu shots, it's like maximum sixty percent effective
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 4: at times as low as fourteen percent effective at preventing
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 4: clinically apparent disease. That's not preventing infection or spread. That's
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 4: preventing being sick in bed. Fourteen to sixty percent effective
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 4: at preventing you from being sick in bed with the flue. Okay,
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 4: so we're we're looking at this situation. Darpas said, Okay,
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 4: you can't vaccinate against it. So it's not good to
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 4: think to even consider making this virus to see if
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 4: we could come up with countermeasures, because the nature of
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 4: the virus means that there are no countermeasures, right, because
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 4: you can't vaccinate your po and it makes a bad
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 4: bio weapon because you can't vaccinate your people against it.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 4: And these particular features would make it horrendously transmissible because
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 4: half the people walking around with it wouldn't even know
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 4: they had it, and they'd be dropping this shedding virus
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 4: all over the fucking place. Yeah, so everybody is gonna
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 4: get it like we don't.
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 14: This is no and.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 4: It'll never go away because it can't be eradicated because
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 4: that's the nature of this type of virus. So if
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 4: we make this virus and it escapes, we're stuck with
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 4: this virus forever. And so DARPA said, are you out
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 4: of your fucking mind? Elchi and his friends were like, yeah,
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 4: that sounds like a great idea. Getting him six hundred
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 4: thousand dollars, make it happen.
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: Damn Jesus Christ.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 4: Basically, low price, one hundred thousand dollars, twenty million people died,
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 4: and the global economy lost twenty three trillion dollars.
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: Okay, So basically the conclusion of all of this is
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: the government squats in your basement, controls your checking and
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: does fucked up experiments on bats.
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 4: They give your money to people that like why why,
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 4: But not only do they everybody's outraged about the gender
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 4: inclusive farming in freaking Guatemala or like you know that. Wait,
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 4: it was gender inclusive inclusive farming in Burma, right, it was.
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 4: It was free transgender surgeries in Guatemala, Okay, and all
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 4: of these freaking dei things, right, giant wastes of money,
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 4: huge waste of money, right, Okay, that's just fucking money.
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 4: That's just like a million dollars here, a couple of
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 4: million dollars.
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 8: This was six hundred dollars dollars.
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 4: Okay, that cost the global economy twenty Yeah.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's funny to think that anybody thought that was
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: a good idea. But I mean, I'll bring it back
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 1: to men's men's issues as I will. They also fund
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: things that destroy the actual economy that they feed on, yes,
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: which I mean it's not quite as dramatic as what
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: you're saying, Karen.
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 4: Yeah. No, they're just like, yeah, no, no, let's figure
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 4: out a way to like exclude white men from every
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 4: form of gainful employment out there.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: Or exclude them from any kind of upward mobility.
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 2: Surely that will fix things.
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: And then also we're gonnaclude black men from their communities entirely.
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 4: Like two years ago, okay, two years ago, whoopee Goldberg
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 4: on the view, I think it was two years ago.
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 4: She's talking about how the people in the government are
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 4: complaining about the birth rates being too low. So she's like, oh, yeah,
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 4: oh yeah, the birth rates are too low. Well, where
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 4: are the tax credits, where are the incentives, where's the subsidized.
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 4: This doesn't where subsidize that, right? Okay, yeah, maybe if
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 4: if you provided those things, people would be able to
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 4: afford to have children. Okay, Then like two years later,
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 4: Trump comes up with this five thousand dollars baby bonus.
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 4: We'll give you five thousand dollars cash if you have
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 4: a baby. She's like, that's just sick.
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 2: But what the hell is welfare?
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 4: Then? Yeah, I know, I know, but it's like, okay,
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 4: five thousand dollars cash if you have a baby, or
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 4: maybe it's two thousand dollars cash if you have a
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 4: baby outside of wedlock, and doesn't if you have one
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 4: in an attact family. But like she's literally saying, if
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 4: you want people to have babies two years ago, do
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 4: you want people to have babies, you should pay them
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 4: to have babies, right, And then the moment Trump says
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna pay you to have babies, she's like, my god,
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 4: it's discovering.
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 2: Well, but that's the thing.
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: It's like, it's a very you know, as AOC said,
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: because now we can do that, because AOC opened it up,
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: we can now talk about femininity for what it is.
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: Because she said that Trump and Musk are acting like
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: a bunch of girls. Well what does that mean. Well,
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: women approach conflicts and reasoning through things differently than men,
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: and often in very emotional ways that are based on
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: how you feel about a person. So on one day
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 1: you'll say you should give women, you should respect motherhood
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: and give women money for having children. But then somebody
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: you don't like says it, and suddenly it's bad. Well
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: that's very feminine thinking, instead of looking at it in
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: terms of the principle, it doesn't matter if someone you
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: dislike says it, because it's a principle you hold. Right,
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: she abandons the principle because somebody sheuld. Otherwise she'd be
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: agreeing with someone she doesn't like. Is that not actually
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: a very feminine pro approach?
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 4: Oh god, yeah, no, yeah, I like literally I look
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 4: at every fucking time, right, Every fucking time someone on
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 4: the other side of the argument makes a point right
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 4: that I agree with. I acknowledge it. Every fucking time
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 4: they say something and I think they're being taken unfairly
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 4: out of context. Yeah, you clarify I say that, right,
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 4: I say, yeah, No, you're being a like to be fair, right,
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 4: I think you're being a little harsh right, because maybe
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 4: they just misspoke, right, maybe maybe they didn't mean it
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 4: that way.
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 8: Right, I could easily.
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 4: Interpret this comment three ways, like let's try to be
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 4: charitable here, right, and you know so, and but when
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 4: I see when I see people doing this, it's just like,
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 4: I'm just like, why don't we just go live with
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 4: the chimps out? Politics are less complicated? Yeah, it's true
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 4: your relationships to keep track of, Yes, And that's the thing.
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 1: It's like, oh, AOC is completely right. I'm glad that
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: we can now have these discussions about what is feminine politics,
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: what is girl politics versus the politics of men?
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 2: Because has opened it, now we can do it. It's
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 2: fair game.
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: Sorry, although again, because I'm saying it and not AOC,
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 1: it becomes bad, right because you don't like me.
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 2: Women don't like.
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 4: People because you're an honorary man.
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because I'm an honorary man due to my magnificent job.
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: But you know, like this this is the thing, Like,
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: now we can discuss this, So what is the effect
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: the sum total effect of femininity on politics? It becomes
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 1: about selling and not just any femininity, like femininity that
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: is self righteous about holding itself to no account, no
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 1: external standard whatsoever. So evincing, no virtues, nothing, You cannot
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: judge this femininity. It is perfect in and of itself.
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: It is an ideal that cannot be possibly criticized. Right,
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: So this is the kind of completely it's femininity without
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: any expectation of moral development. So it's not just femininity,
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: it's feminity without any expectation.
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 4: Of moral development.
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: It's completely immature in that sense. So it is girl
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: femininity AOC is right. Now, what is the effect what
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 1: is the aggreggive effect of girl femininity on politics?
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 4: Well, it just turns it into high school drama.
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 2: Well, a high school drama.
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 1: Everything is about the emotion in the moment. Everything is relational,
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: so you can't see things in terms of overarching prisciples
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: or systemic factors or causality. Everything is about who says
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: it and who they are saying it to, and it
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: just becomes this ephemeral mess.
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  Speaker 4: Well, and they even standpoint theory and problematization in academia
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 4: are like ways where they actually legitimize the Well, who's
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 4: saying it and why do you infer that they're saying it?
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 4: And who does their statement benefit and who does it harm? Right, Okay, yeah,
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 4: and then you can you can feel free to disregard
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 4: what they said because you know, like of they said it, you.
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  Speaker 2: Know, just to sum up, it was good to see.
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: It's good to actually see the political discourse in some
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: ways being pulled back to systems, economy, interest rates, all
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: of this other stuff from well, this person is bad,
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 1: so therefore what the things he does are bad?
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 2: And I'm going to judge him based on.
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  Speaker 1: A very convenient framework which I do not apply to myself.
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 2: Like it's good to see that. No, I'm not sure.
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 1: I can't get behind Elon taking it into egirl drama
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: with the Epstein file stuff. I know you Karen says
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: say if he can deliver the goods, then it's fine.
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 4: But I'm like, no, I didn't say it was fine.
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  Speaker 6: I think I can.
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  Speaker 7: I just say, I think it's actually really really awful to.
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  Speaker 6: Make an allegation like that.
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  Speaker 7: I don't know if you guys noticed what this channel
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 7: is about, but faulse allegations is kind of like a
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 7: big thing here, and that is a completely unproven statement
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 7: to make. Now, you know, I'm I'm willing to wait
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 7: and see if anything comes out of it. But if
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 7: he really believes that that's true, that about Trump and Epstein.
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 7: Then I don't know why he had Trump hanging out
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 7: with his kid. I don't know why, Like you know
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 7: that that the the Democrats didn't just put that all
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 7: out there like when they were in power like last term.
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 7: So it all looks really sketchy to me. And I
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 7: think that Elon is just throwing an autisticism like a
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 7: like a tantrum. And I think it's extremely reckless to
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 7: make allegations like this. And I say this as somebody
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 7: who stood up for Bill Cosby, for Harvey Weinstein, for Masterson,
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 7: for so many other people, and Trump all the time
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 7: that he got accused of shit, you know, by like
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 7: Eagen Carroll and whatnot. So you know, just saying that
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 7: is really really irresponsible.
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  Speaker 2: Also lefties like Neil Gamon.
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 1: You know, yea being concused.
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  Speaker 4: I was just like, yeah, no, that the principle is right,
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 4: you wait and see and you know, and like I
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 4: didn't say, if Elon Musk has the receipts, it's fine. No,
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 4: I'm saying, if Elon Musk has the receipts, right.
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 1: It's understandable.
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 8: Or he may not be destroyed by this.
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 1: Oh okay, I see where you're getting at now, yeah, right,
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 1: I apologize for mischaracterizing you, but yeah, Brian, no receipts.
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  Speaker 4: It just comes across as.
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 1: Like accusations shouldn't be used as political tools.
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah, full stop.
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 1: They should be completely removed from politics. And again that's
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 1: another demonstration of girl politics, these accusations and threat narratives.
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 2: But yeah, you're right, Brian, and.
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 1: I would like to point out that we also defend
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 1: people who are presumably on the left, and we were
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 1: right about Neil Gaman. By the way, guys, it turns out, yeah,
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: this was a bunch of I'm pretty sure this turned
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 1: out that this was a he delivered the receipts, and
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 1: all of the accusers actually in text were evincing consent,
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 1: shall we say. I don't know if that's an acceptable
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 1: a defense anymore in the UK, but they were essentially
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 1: basically texting him things like and it was in Ironically,
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 1: it was in the actual articles of the women who
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 1: one of the women who accused him, Neil Gamon, one
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 1: of the women. She even mentioned the fact that she
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 1: texted him at the time after their little tet that
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 1: she couldn't wait for the next one and what he
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 1: was going to do to her, Like how at that point,
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 1: how does he know? But I wasn't consenting in.
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 2: My one lobe of my brain.
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 4: Yeah, when I texted him that when it was it
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 4: was me.
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 1: It was my boughty, was was was making me do
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 1: it and also my star struckedness, Like okay, so you
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 1: basically are an infant. Let's go back to coviture.
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, please.
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 4: Anyway, the Gomeshi trial was exactly that, right, these women
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 4: were aggressively pursuing him, and yeah, and then when he
• 1:13:53
  Speaker 4: was just like, you know, I sure, I'll give you
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 4: a go, right, but you know, and he didn't even
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 4: really give them a go, Like he didn't actually have
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 4: sex with any of them, right, He just kind of
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 4: took them on, each of them, on all three of them,
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 4: on a date, and then decided, okay, no thanks. Like
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 4: even even the primary accuser, the one who was on
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 4: Trailer Park Boys, you could tear, right, he didn't have
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 4: sex with her. Yeah, I know, so, but in the
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 4: weekend they spent a weekend together and they didn't have sex.
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 1: Okay, So with the principal, the overall principle not getting
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 1: too much because I know that.
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 4: Brian, I'm just I'm just saying, I'm just saying, like
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 4: he's just he appeared to be like extremely cautious about
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 4: who he was willing to have sex with. But a
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 4: surprise and it wasn't these women. And so they all
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 4: got together in some kind of fucking hen party and
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 4: I decided to bring him down.
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I hate that guy, Yeah, but it's the
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 1: principal he was.
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 4: He was the host of CBC Radio's flagship program, Right,
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 4: one of the most progressive guys you could ever think of. Right,
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 4: He graduated with a degree in philosophy and women's studies.
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 2: But it's the principle.
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 1: It doesn't matter if you don't like the guy.
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 5: I know.
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 1: False accusation should not be used as political tools that
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 1: shouldn't be around. So that's gonna be ammunition or its
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 1: Pearsonal ammunition talking about girl politics as AOC says, all right,
• 1:15:29
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• 1:15:31
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• 1:15:33
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  Speaker 6: You wrapping up? Yeah?
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 7: I can I say something about this whole thing. No,
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 7: it's okay. I wanted to, so, like, you know, it's
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 7: still early days. We don't really know like where this
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 7: is gonna go, and it's probably best to just remember
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 7: that everybody's just speculating. But this reminds me of a
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 7: story that maybe people who are not Americans remember, do
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 7: you guys know about the feud between two founding fathers,
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 7: John Adams and Thomas Jefferson. So I'm gonna let me
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 7: tell you a little bit about it because this and look,
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 7: I'm not trying to say just for the record, because
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 7: I know some people are gonna getriggered by this that
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 7: like Trump and Elon are just like Thomas Jefferson and
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 7: John Adams. But I think there's some parallels in the story.
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 7: So John Adams and Thomas Jefferson were close allies during
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 7: the American Revolution. They collaborate on the Declaration of Independence,
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 7: and they shared mutual respect. However, their relationship deteriorated due
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 7: to political differences during the seventeen nineties. Adams was a
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 7: federalist he favored a strong central government, and Jefferson was
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 7: a Democratic Republican he has those things existed back then,
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 7: advocating for states rights and a more decentralized system. Their
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 7: rivalry peaked during the eighteen hundred presidential election, when Jefferson
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 7: ran against President Adams. Their campaign was vicious. Jefferson supporters
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 7: called Adams a hideous hermaphroditical character in Adams's camp labeled
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 7: Jefferson a mean spirited, low lived fellow, which was considered
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 7: really insulting at the time. So they went after each
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 7: other hard. Okay, Jefferson won the election, ultimately becoming the
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 7: third US President, and the two ceased communication for over
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 7: a decade. In eighteen twelve, their mutual friend doctor Benjamin
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 7: Rush orchestrated a reconciliation, so they had their mutual friends
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 7: had them come back, come together, sit down and talk
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 7: to each other by encouraging Adams to write to Jefferson.
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 7: On January first, eighteen twelve, Adams sent a short letter
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 7: updating Jefferson and his family's well being, signaling a willingness
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 7: to reconnect. Jefferson responded warmly, and the two began a
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 7: prolific correspondence that lasted until their deaths. They exchanged one
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 7: over one hundred and fifty letters, discussing politics, philosophy, and
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 7: personal reflections, rebuilding a deep friendship. And here's the really
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 7: weird thing about the Jefferson Adams thing, which was a friendship,
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 7: then a feud, and then another then a friendship. At
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 7: the end, both men died on the exact same day,
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 7: July fourth, nineteen or sorry, eighteen twenty six, which is
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 7: the fifth anniversary of the Declaration of Independence. So what
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 7: I want to say about this lastly is that ultimately
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 7: there is what like there is a kind of like
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 7: pettiness to all of this. But also it bears pointing
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 7: out that we haven't really seen the ways that men
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 7: communicate with each other. There's a lot of like you know,
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 7: it can get very banti and it can get very aggressive.
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 6: But there I think that it's not a new thing.
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 7: So I just wanted to I just thought that that
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 7: was an interesting story and I and you know, we'll
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 7: see what happens. But it could be that they just
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 7: you know, because I from what I understand, uh elon Musk,
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 7: he said that he was gonna like take a break
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 7: and cool try to cool off. So maybe maybe they'll
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 7: work something else out. So that's all I wanted to say.
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you know, and like it's possible they'll they'll reconcile.
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 1: I mean, they were. It was great to see them
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 1: united against government bloat and pork and you know it,
• 1:19:28
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• 1:19:34
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• 1:20:17
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• 1:20:20
  Speaker 1: think our perspective is valuable on this, not just leave
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 1: it to everybody who's like, oh my god, the world
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 1: is falling, the sky is falling, everything's going to hell.
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 4: But anyway is going to hell.
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean yes, because the government keeps spending
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 1: too much.
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 4: And spending it to put men down.
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, this government keeps spending it too much, and they're like, well,
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 1: what can we do if from the market, Let's destroy
• 1:20:45
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• 1:20:46
  Speaker 4: Now if they were spending it on something useful in destruction, well,
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 4: creating systems that can propel men upwardly, right, you know,
• 1:20:57
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• 1:21:02
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• 1:21:14
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• 1:21:18
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• 1:21:20
  Speaker 1: and somebody else is going to pay for it. Yeah,
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 1: because that's what our government does. Yeah, it's like, this
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 1: is somebody else's problem. All of the things that we're
• 1:21:29
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  Speaker 4: You know what kind of.
• 1:21:32
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• 1:21:42
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  Speaker 15: Men's right activists are machines, dude. Okay, they are literal machines.
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 15: They are talking point machines. They are impossible to fucking
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 15: deal with, especially if you have, like especially if you
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 15: have like a couple of dudes who have good memory.
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