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Green Lights and Gut Checks with 1/3 Generator Julie Jancius · Human Design IRL

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  SPEAKER_01: Oh, hey there.
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  SPEAKER_01: I'm Carly, Human Design Medium, and your guide for this podcast.
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  SPEAKER_01: This is Human Design IRL, where we talk to my favorite women in the world about how their human design shows up in their real lives.
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  SPEAKER_01: So you have actual examples as you're learning about how your design might show up in yours.
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  SPEAKER_03: I feel like I am in building a prison of my own making.
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  SPEAKER_03: Whereas when I'm running with the green lights and like running forward in my life, I feel so expansive.
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  SPEAKER_03: I feel like I'm in my soul's energy.
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  SPEAKER_03: I feel so free.
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  SPEAKER_03: I feel happy.
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  SPEAKER_03: I feel joyful.
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  SPEAKER_03: Um, and it feels very much just so fun to go through life that way.
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  SPEAKER_01: Like that's you're meant to inspire us that way.
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  SPEAKER_01: Before we start the episode, I want to remind you that we talk about specific channels, gates, incarnation crosses, all the stuff in every episode.
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  SPEAKER_01: All right, here we go.
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  SPEAKER_01: I'm Carly Arbeckel, Human Design Medium, and this is the Human Design IRL Podcast.
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  SPEAKER_01: Welcome back.
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  SPEAKER_01: Today I have my OG, Julie Jansis, um, here.
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  SPEAKER_01: I can't I'm I can't believe, honestly, Jules, I can't believe I'm sitting here.
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  SPEAKER_01: Like, there was a time in my life where I was like shaking before I met you.
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  SPEAKER_05: What?
• 1:30
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 1:31
  SPEAKER_01: You, I mean, that's the impact that you've had on my life.
• 1:35
  SPEAKER_01: Long story short, I went through my spiritual awakening when I was, I think, 33.
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  SPEAKER_01: And Julie was the person who really helped me take action um when it comes to my spiritual gifts.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I listened for a long time, and I got you know a reading here and there from other people, but I kept coming back to you, and there were so many signs.
• 2:05
  SPEAKER_01: And then I joined the Angel Reiki School, and I mean, gosh, my whole life changed.
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  SPEAKER_01: So um, Julie runs the Angel Reiki Mediumship School here in uh suburbs of Chicago.
• 2:22
  SPEAKER_01: She is an author.
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  SPEAKER_01: She's do you have another book coming out soon?
• 2:26
  SPEAKER_03: I do with New World Library.
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  SPEAKER_03: It's coming out June 15th of 2027.
• 2:31
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 2:32
  SPEAKER_01: Oh my gosh, what a delight for everybody.
• 2:34
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, if I if I've got Angel Signs.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: Oh, ooh.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 2:39
  SPEAKER_01: I can't wait.
• 2:40
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I wish I could show everybody on this podcast my Angels and Awakening book because it is.
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  SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna go grab it actually, Jules.
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  SPEAKER_01: Hang on.
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  SPEAKER_04: Oh my gosh, you've like gone through it so much.
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  SPEAKER_04: Look at that.
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  SPEAKER_04: That's amazing.
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  SPEAKER_01: I have, gosh, and this is so my 1858 line in human design, but like of perfectionism, right?
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  SPEAKER_01: But there's a journal page of what each angel is for you and what they come through as, and what this is like the exercise.
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  SPEAKER_01: So I did the exercises.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um, but battered, loved, um love it.
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  SPEAKER_01: So that's Julie's first book, and she also has an angel membership.
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  SPEAKER_01: That changed my life too, where you connect with yourself and do a lot of healing, a lot of work with your angels.
• 3:30
  SPEAKER_01: Um, what else, Jules?
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  SPEAKER_01: Tell give the people an intro.
• 3:34
  SPEAKER_03: I just follow my soul's path and just my heart and whatever the angels are telling me to do.
• 3:41
  SPEAKER_03: I just go out and and do that.
• 3:43
  SPEAKER_03: Um, and you know, just over time I try and do one thing a year and it just builds upon itself.
• 3:49
  SPEAKER_03: Um, but I just rented a house yesterday to go um and take people on a big retreat to Sedona.
• 3:57
  SPEAKER_03: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's exciting too.
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  SPEAKER_03: I know it's this mansion in the cliffs, and I talked to this guy and he's like, um, and I rented it, and Spirit was like, just book it.
• 4:09
  SPEAKER_03: And uh, so I did, and then I talked to the guy on the phone the day after, and he goes, Yeah, you just head right out the front door, straight, and you walk up, and he's like, It is literally the place that everybody in Sedona wants to come.
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  SPEAKER_03: Because if you walk eight minutes forward up this like little path, it leads you to the airplane vortex where he said you have like the best views of just the sunset, the sunrise.
• 4:38
  SPEAKER_03: And you know, we're just in a period of life where things are gonna be shifting, accelerating more quickly, even though it's accelerated so fast over the last 20 years, it's gonna keep accelerating.
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  SPEAKER_03: And that pace means that we have to really come back to ourselves.
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  SPEAKER_03: And it doesn't look the same for everybody, and it shifts throughout our lives.
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  SPEAKER_03: You know, the way that I come back to myself now, perimetopause, you know, like in mid-40s, different from when I was in my 30s, and it'll be different when I'm in my 50s.
• 5:11
  SPEAKER_03: And so um, it's kind of just like wherever you're at right now in your life and whatever is calling to you, really making space for yourself to tune in, to listen to yourself, to listen to your own intuition.
• 5:26
  SPEAKER_03: Because if everybody was following their path here, you know, I believe that this place would be just very, very different than how it looks right now.
• 5:34
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I completely, I completely, I'm glad you just spoke about that, Jules, because it's really just shows people who you are.
• 5:42
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and I I mean, so many things.
• 5:45
  SPEAKER_01: First of all, I want to make sure that I mention that Julie is a one-three generator.
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  SPEAKER_01: So you can feel her sunny energy when you're talking to her.
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  SPEAKER_01: You can hear all of the one of my favorite things that uh that happens when I talk to Julie is I learned so many facts because she's a true one line.
• 6:02
  SPEAKER_01: And we'll talk about that in a second.
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  SPEAKER_01: But I want to make sure that I mentioned to you that, like, um, first of all, that retreat sounds incredible.
• 6:08
  SPEAKER_01: So everybody go to theangelmedium.com.
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  SPEAKER_01: Um, and I don't know if you'll have it up there yet, but if it's not up, keep trying.
• 6:15
  SPEAKER_03: You know what?
• 6:16
  SPEAKER_03: I just put it out to the angel members and um it's like 75% sold.
• 6:21
  SPEAKER_03: So I think I'm gonna just do more.
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  SPEAKER_03: Um, and I know, I know.
• 6:26
  SPEAKER_03: Um, so you can reach out if uh my email is Julie at the angel medium.
• 6:32
  SPEAKER_03: If you ever see anything that I'm talking about, just reach out and um that's the other thing.
• 6:37
  SPEAKER_03: I think healing is moving in a much different way.
• 6:39
  SPEAKER_03: I just really want to connect with people soul to soul.
• 6:43
  SPEAKER_01: You've always been that way in my experience.
• 6:45
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, you've always, and I think that's part of your three line.
• 6:49
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, I guess we're talking about your profile, if this is where this is leading.
• 6:52
  SPEAKER_01: Um but the three line is the person who wants to try everything.
• 6:59
  SPEAKER_01: And, you know, I was talking to actually I was talking to someone about you yesterday about a one-three profile, and I was like, Homegirl has like a wall of ideas, of like post-its and plans.
• 7:16
  SPEAKER_01: And, you know, we got on, and immediately today, before we started recording, you're talking about, you know, the book that like this this book that you're that about a neuroscience, uh, a neuroscientist, and how she's expressing um energy or how she's articulating energy so well.
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  SPEAKER_01: You're always bringing the best guests onto your podcast so you can learn more.
• 7:38
  SPEAKER_01: And you've always been the person who wants to be in there with people trying things.
• 7:44
  SPEAKER_01: I think that's what I felt from you.
• 7:48
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, I couldn't believe that I even got to have a call before I booked into the angel school.
• 7:54
  SPEAKER_04: Oh, no, and you are there.
• 7:56
  SPEAKER_01: If you email Julie, she is there, she is there, she will get to you.
• 8:01
  SPEAKER_03: Like I just like to well, here's what it is, cart.
• 8:04
  SPEAKER_03: I um, you know how ants can see through their antenna.
• 8:09
  SPEAKER_03: Like they no, I did not.
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  SPEAKER_03: Like they have these little antennas, right?
• 8:13
  SPEAKER_03: And like they have that's so cool.
• 8:14
  SPEAKER_03: They're like always wobbling and they're feeling everything in front of them.
• 8:18
  SPEAKER_03: They have to feel their way forward.
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  SPEAKER_03: And I think that some people are just energetically that way.
• 8:25
  SPEAKER_03: Where um I, you know, I've been looking at empaths and narcissists this last year.
• 8:31
  SPEAKER_03: And one of the things that I have seen is, you know, looking at it from the perspective of could I change myself in a way where I become less fooled?
• 8:44
  SPEAKER_03: It's harder to fool me if you're a narcissist.
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  SPEAKER_03: And I got to the point where I was like, no, like I don't want to change who I am.
• 8:52
  SPEAKER_03: I can correct my boundaries, but I still have to feel my way forward.
• 8:58
  SPEAKER_03: And it's someone else's free will how they're gonna choose to be in relationship with me, but um I still can't change myself in that I have to feel my way forward.
• 9:12
  SPEAKER_03: I have to stumble, I have to make mistakes, I have to get it wrong again and again.
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  SPEAKER_03: I have to do it, you know, we were talking about earlier in a way that's not perfect.
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  SPEAKER_03: Because if I wait until it's perfect, it's not going to get done.
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  SPEAKER_03: Um and in that way, actually, that's where I love my life the most.
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  SPEAKER_03: I feel most free, I feel most expansive in my energy.
• 9:39
  SPEAKER_03: And it's fun to be alive.
• 9:42
  SPEAKER_03: Um yeah.
• 9:43
  SPEAKER_03: So just the more that you can really understand about yourself, especially through human design, and like um, I think that the more that you feel free being yourself.
• 9:54
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 9:54
  SPEAKER_01: Well, and that's the point of it.
• 9:56
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, I always say that it's like this is a puzzle piece.
• 9:58
  SPEAKER_01: Your human design is a puzzle piece.
• 10:00
  SPEAKER_01: I think I said this on your um podcast, the nubs and the grooves of our energy centers, you put out certain energy into the world and you take in and why is that others?
• 10:10
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but I just want everybody to know that what Julie just was reflecting um was so three-line energy.
• 10:18
  SPEAKER_01: It's so that I need to try and try again and um, you know, keep moving forward, keep feeling my way forward.
• 10:26
  SPEAKER_01: Like three lines um would rather do everything, any like they'd rather try it themselves, yeah.
• 10:32
  SPEAKER_01: Um, rather than getting a recommendation.
• 10:34
  SPEAKER_01: And actually, with your combination with your one line, you have done all the research, you know, you do know how many stars the the resorts have the resorts have, um, but you you want to experience life for sure.
• 10:50
  SPEAKER_03: Well, my mom used to say, like, we grew up um close friends with one of the real big VPs of Hyatt Hotels.
• 10:58
  SPEAKER_03: And my mom and him were really close growing up, they're really close friends.
• 11:05
  SPEAKER_03: And um, I remember just being like really, really young in elementary school.
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  SPEAKER_03: And you know, your parents are sitting outside on the patio having drinks, and I would just sit there and listen.
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  SPEAKER_03: And what he would always say is that he started out as a bellman for Hyatt.
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  SPEAKER_03: He did every single job in Hyatt, and he would always say, like, that's how I became successful because I knew what people were supposed to be doing.
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  SPEAKER_03: And so if something wasn't going right, I knew because I was doing that job before exactly what wasn't being done right.
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  SPEAKER_03: And so he would hop in and tweak this, you know, maneuver that.
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  SPEAKER_03: And that's what it is.
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  SPEAKER_03: That's like what that is to like feel with the antenna.
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  SPEAKER_03: So I think a lot of people, um, you know, especially who want to start spiritual businesses, they just want to come in and they want to like um tomorrow they open their website and everything is taken off and everything's successful, and you just skip all of the hardness and you just jump into the easy.
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  SPEAKER_03: But you can't do that.
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  SPEAKER_03: And actually, that's not the fun of life.
• 12:14
  SPEAKER_03: Like the fun of my life is I just did three hours of sessions this morning, right?
• 12:21
  SPEAKER_03: Like back to back.
• 12:22
  SPEAKER_03: And oh my god, I can't like digging into people's energy and what's happening, and like I'm so in the present moment.
• 12:30
  SPEAKER_03: You know, you're having a conversation, but then here are their angels, and here's her grandma, and here's her dad, and they're coming through, and they've got all this stuff to say.
• 12:38
  SPEAKER_03: And that is like the most fun.
• 12:40
  SPEAKER_03: That's where I am plugged in and connected to the energy myself.
• 12:46
  SPEAKER_03: I tried doing things the other way because you know, you look at and and if you don't allow yourself to make mistakes, you just can't get where you're going.
• 12:55
  SPEAKER_03: So we have really shifted over the last 10 years.
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  SPEAKER_03: You know, when I first got into this, there is this standard definition of what success looks like, what standard spirituality is supposed to look like.
• 13:11
  SPEAKER_03: And so when I had a ton of success with the podcast, and here you are, like 10 million listeners in one year, and you go, um, people around you start to say, you know, well, if you were really successful, these are people who know business.
• 13:29
  SPEAKER_03: If you were really successful, your operations would look like this, your team would look like this.
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  SPEAKER_03: You could really have more success.
• 13:39
  SPEAKER_03: And as I'm talking to anybody, especially experts in different fields, spirits going yes to that, circling that, and then no, no, no, no, no, no.
• 13:52
  SPEAKER_03: And so it's this constant battle within yourself of do I listen to my own intuition?
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  SPEAKER_03: Or you're looking at these other people who are like, I've been doing this for 25 years, I've been doing this for 30 years, you know, like I know the way.
• 14:08
  SPEAKER_03: And so you start to think, you know, maybe my intuition's wrong, maybe their intuition's right.
• 14:13
  SPEAKER_03: And you start to just try different things.
• 14:16
  SPEAKER_03: And when you do, some things are gonna work and some things are not gonna work.
• 14:22
  SPEAKER_03: And um sometimes you are gonna have like the biggest successes in life, and then you're gonna crash and burn in different ways, and everybody goes through that.
• 14:35
  SPEAKER_03: What happens is do you pick yourself back up?
• 14:38
  SPEAKER_03: Do you keep going with that antenna and feeling your way forward?
• 15:43
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I mean, so many things.
• 15:45
  SPEAKER_01: What you're speaking to, I like because I don't have the I think that's three line energy.
• 15:52
  SPEAKER_01: If you didn't know, like you have a certain level of what do you call it?
• 15:59
  SPEAKER_01: Um uh not grit, but like not stamina.
• 16:06
  SPEAKER_01: Um it doesn't, yeah.
• 16:09
  SPEAKER_01: So um, but that is a gift that you have.
• 16:13
  SPEAKER_01: And it's and what you do as a generator is you are like a guardian of life force energy, right?
• 16:19
  SPEAKER_01: So you get this life force energy, and your job is to do what you love and to lean into that third line and to inspire other people around you based on what you are doing.
• 16:30
  SPEAKER_01: So the way that you were just talking about that, like generators go super deep into whatever they love, and they just keep doing it and doing it, and that is exactly what they're supposed to do.
• 16:44
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I mean, I'm I'm trying to think of like you just gave such beautiful examples, but you also have this divined head and ajna at the top of your chart, um, which is this mental pressure.
• 16:58
  SPEAKER_01: And we are all conditioned to use our logic, to use our mind.
• 17:02
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and when you do have a defined head and ajna the way that you and I both do, we have consistent pressure and ways of thinking and processing and trying to figure things out.
• 17:13
  SPEAKER_01: We're always um doing that.
• 17:15
  SPEAKER_01: And I think when you have a one-line that loves information, information makes you feel safe, and you have this pressure in your head and um to to figure things out, like big things, like meaning of life kind of a thing.
• 17:30
  SPEAKER_01: Um, for you, it has to do with logic and patterns and trying to figure out where the next path is.
• 17:36
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and you have all these ideas from your gate 11.
• 17:39
  SPEAKER_01: Um, you know, I think it would be confusing and maybe even a more challenging path to let that go, because you do have consistent logic and consistent thoughts up there, and trust your body, which is where the intuition comes through, right?
• 17:57
  SPEAKER_01: Can you talk to people about your gut because you are a sacral generator?
• 18:02
  SPEAKER_03: Well, I think like what's coming through to just share people with people about this is that um, well, a couple of different things.
• 18:10
  SPEAKER_03: I feel like it's taken me a long time to learn this, that not everybody can see as far into the future as like everybody's got different spiritual gifts, right?
• 18:25
  SPEAKER_03: Some people are intuitive, and then some people like I can see far into the future.
• 18:32
  SPEAKER_03: I always know, and I've always known this, like what trends we're gonna be next.
• 18:37
  SPEAKER_03: Um, I bought a dress like five years ago and it's just hitting now, where it's like this is the dress of the summer that everybody's wearing.
• 18:45
  SPEAKER_03: Um, like what just trend, like I can see it all.
• 18:48
  SPEAKER_03: And when you're so far into the future, what I think happens a lot of times is you're like, this is what's coming.
• 18:57
  SPEAKER_03: This is what's coming.
• 18:59
  SPEAKER_03: And then people are like, no, that can't be.
• 19:01
  SPEAKER_03: And you're like, no, this is what's coming.
• 19:04
  SPEAKER_03: And then they get far enough where they see it.
• 19:07
  SPEAKER_03: Um, and so I've felt throughout my life like maybe I was bad or wrong, but I don't.
• 19:14
  SPEAKER_03: There's another thing I was gonna tell you.
• 19:16
  SPEAKER_03: I'm like switching gears.
• 19:17
  SPEAKER_01: You and I are both ADHD, which I just you're making me think of a million things, and it's hard to remember what I want.
• 19:25
  SPEAKER_01: I know we can start with other people.
• 19:27
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, I I have so many.
• 19:29
  SPEAKER_01: I'm looking up one right now, but um you know what it is to cart.
• 19:33
  SPEAKER_03: Um okay, so I don't do scary movies or scary shows, but one of my good friends was like, Did you see Widow's Bay on Apple TV?
• 19:43
  SPEAKER_01: So good.
• 19:43
  SPEAKER_03: I wrote and I and I was like, I can't, I was like, Lynn, I can't do scary.
• 19:47
  SPEAKER_03: It's just like Julie, it's not scary, it's supposed to be funny.
• 19:50
  SPEAKER_03: And I was like, Okay, so I got, did you get to the last episode?
• 19:55
  SPEAKER_01: Mm-hmm.
• 19:56
  SPEAKER_03: Okay, the part where he's talking to his secretary, I okay, wait, wait, wait, wait, spoiler, spoiler.
• 20:01
  SPEAKER_01: So fast forward 30 seconds if you don't want to know.
• 20:03
  SPEAKER_03: Okay, yes, yeah, yeah, yes.
• 20:04
  SPEAKER_03: That's where well, no, I just think it's like the most profound, one of the most profound conversations that you've ever seen in television.
• 20:14
  SPEAKER_03: So the entire series is just for entertainment, but there is a blip of like three minutes that's just the most profound conversation.
• 20:22
  SPEAKER_03: And it's basically how many people out there, you gotta ask yourself if you're one of these people that's just waiting for life to all the pieces to click into place for life to be perfect, for your life to find ease, for everything to be wonderful, for everything to be blissful, and you're just waiting for everything to come in.
• 20:47
  SPEAKER_03: And she goes in that moment, and when that comes, you're not gonna be satisfied.
• 20:54
  SPEAKER_03: Something else is gonna come up.
• 20:55
  SPEAKER_03: There's gonna be another problem, there's gonna be another challenge, there's gonna be another this or another that.
• 21:00
  SPEAKER_03: I went back and I like re-watched this like five or ten times because I was just like, Oh my god, that's so one line.
• 21:07
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, but um, what she's saying is so true.
• 21:11
  SPEAKER_03: I've waited my entire life for everything to click into place, for everything to be right, for everything, for me to feel like I'm a good person, right?
• 21:20
  SPEAKER_03: For me to be, it's not coming.
• 21:24
  SPEAKER_03: That isn't what life is about.
• 21:26
  SPEAKER_03: It's about just that's what the other side is about.
• 21:29
  SPEAKER_01: That's what the other side is about, right?
• 21:32
  SPEAKER_03: But it's acceptance, right?
• 21:33
  SPEAKER_03: And she goes, you have to accept your life.
• 21:36
  SPEAKER_03: This is life.
• 21:38
  SPEAKER_03: Life is challenges, life is problems, and when you talk about the spiritual community, I think that there are a shit ton of people making money saying that's not true, life can be perfect.
• 21:52
  SPEAKER_03: If you were a good manifaster, you could manifest this freaking perfect life.
• 21:58
  SPEAKER_03: No, come to the point of acceptance, which the Buddhists did, of life is challenge, life is one thing after another.
• 22:08
  SPEAKER_03: If you are gonna be the person, which I am a lot of times, that's not going to feel satisfied, contented, at peace, at ease until that moment comes, you're gonna live until you're 105.
• 22:22
  SPEAKER_03: And we often work with people who are at the end of life and you tune into this energy all the time.
• 22:28
  SPEAKER_03: Like they got it right before they passed.
• 22:30
  SPEAKER_03: And I think that's the thing that I live with a lot is I don't want to be at my deathbed realizing how I should have lived.
• 22:40
  SPEAKER_03: That is my quest and my search for meaning and understanding, and is how do I live it good right now?
• 22:49
  SPEAKER_03: How do I get to the end and not have any regrets because I figured it out here and now?
• 22:56
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 22:56
  SPEAKER_01: And I I mean, there's it's holding two things at once.
• 23:00
  SPEAKER_01: And I think first of all, you just said the word satisfying about a bajillion times.
• 23:04
  SPEAKER_01: And that is your sign of alignment is when generators feel satisfied.
• 23:09
  SPEAKER_01: That's when, and when they feel frustrated when they're out of alignment.
• 23:12
  SPEAKER_01: And so I think there is what you're saying is like taking it out of the intellectual idea that life can be, I mean, life can be heaven on earth, but it's still life.
• 23:26
  SPEAKER_01: And, you know, what spirit shows me all the time is this tightrope analogy of everybody has to learn to walk tightrope.
• 23:34
  SPEAKER_01: And when you tune into spiritual support, um, like we've we've conditioned ourselves to believe that if we are in like a cooler with a thong leotard and we're falling down and we're getting back up and we're not taking breaks and we're bruised and we're battered, and like and then we get to the other side, somehow it's more impressive than, but like the reality is we're all gonna just walk the tightrope and get to but um the other side.
• 23:59
  unknown: Yeah.
• 23:59
  SPEAKER_01: And so when you ask for spiritual support, you can have a pina colada along the way, you can have a Michelin man suit, you can balance like a pink cloud, you know, you that's the manifestation.
• 24:10
  SPEAKER_01: That's where you can manifest tools and and um realities in your life that make your life enchanted and satisfying for you, successful for like whatever your sign is.
• 24:26
  SPEAKER_01: Um, you know, manifestors, if you're listening, it's peace.
• 24:30
  SPEAKER_01: Um, if you feel peaceful, um projectors feel successful, generators feel satisfied, manifesting generators feel um satisfactory, satisfying and and peaceful, and reflectors feel surprised.
• 24:43
  SPEAKER_01: They feel enchanted by life.
• 24:45
  SPEAKER_01: If that's what you're feeling, like you can have moments of that without living your life like that.
• 24:51
  SPEAKER_01: That's not the point.
• 24:52
  SPEAKER_01: Like you will have challenges.
• 24:54
  SPEAKER_01: You no one learns how no one walks a tightrope perfect.
• 24:58
  SPEAKER_01: That's the whole point.
• 24:59
  SPEAKER_03: I really thought though, that if I was a good person, like I'm a safe driver, right?
• 25:07
  SPEAKER_03: And I um, you know, am good with my finances and I don't overspend and I stay in bounds.
• 25:14
  SPEAKER_03: And like if I'm good, then bad won't come.
• 25:18
  SPEAKER_03: And like I really did that because you know, my parents went through this rocky divorce.
• 25:23
  SPEAKER_03: And so, like, I I looked at it this last year, because I'll just say it this way like I had a like a stalker, right?
• 25:30
  SPEAKER_03: And God, yes, I've been dealing with like this really, really weird situation, scary, scary situation, very scary situation.
• 25:39
  SPEAKER_03: And uh, you know, I thought going through this and having to bring like the authorities into it and just follow this stuff has been the most crazy thing.
• 25:51
  SPEAKER_03: And I there was a point one day where I thought to myself, I've got I've done everything right.
• 25:56
  SPEAKER_03: Like I'm good, I try and be a good person.
• 25:59
  SPEAKER_03: And if I was a good person, these bad things wouldn't happen.
• 26:02
  SPEAKER_03: And I had to get to this point of like, I don't know this person who's doing this, you know, like this is like a stranger, and you could be doing everything right, and yet these things come up and these things happen.
• 26:17
  SPEAKER_03: And I didn't bring this upon myself.
• 26:19
  SPEAKER_03: I run from spiritual teachers now who are like, you know, you manifest everything, you brought it upon yourself.
• 26:26
  SPEAKER_03: Fuck that shit.
• 26:28
  SPEAKER_03: No, you don't.
• 26:29
  SPEAKER_03: You could do everything right in life and still go through something really, really hard because that is life.
• 26:38
  SPEAKER_03: Like, life is just like that's why we're here.
• 26:40
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 26:42
  SPEAKER_01: That's why we're here.
• 26:43
  SPEAKER_01: We're here to learn.
• 26:44
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 26:44
  SPEAKER_01: And like what the angel said in the in the high rope analogy is like pain is inevitable, suffering is not.
• 26:53
  SPEAKER_01: And so, like, you will, there are things in your life that you've signed up to learn, you know, it doesn't mean that you brought it on yourself.
• 27:01
  SPEAKER_01: Like, no one wants to go through, like, it's painful to go through things, you know.
• 27:07
  SPEAKER_01: I think that is though part, it is to your point, part of life.
• 27:11
  SPEAKER_01: And when you are connected to spirit, when you are someone like you who is like, God, you know, instead of trying to fix it yourself, being like, God, help me understand this, because that's that's something that's a good tool for defined head and ajna, actually, is like, because we are going to have the pressure to figure it out no matter what.
• 27:32
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and if we just sort of surrender in that way, you know, and say, help me, help my mind be at ease here, because it is getting in the way of my ability to love my life.
• 27:47
  SPEAKER_01: It's getting in the in the way.
• 27:49
  SPEAKER_03: And it's getting in the way of like your vibration too.
• 27:53
  SPEAKER_03: Right.
• 27:53
  SPEAKER_03: Like, how do you hear?
• 27:55
  SPEAKER_03: Like, I almost had to take the last six months off because I was like in such a state of terror.
• 28:01
  SPEAKER_03: And just like, well, no, it's just more so.
• 28:05
  SPEAKER_03: And I I've actually gotten to a point where um I didn't manifest this right, but I can take the cards that life dealt me, and this is what I wrote in my new book.
• 28:15
  SPEAKER_03: You can take any cards life deals you, beautiful or brutal, and make something from them.
• 28:21
  SPEAKER_03: And I'm really, really grateful because I'm a completely different person today than when I started this.
• 28:26
  SPEAKER_03: But what I kept saying to God for over like the last six months is, why am I feeling this way?
• 28:32
  SPEAKER_03: Like, like, why won't you just take this away?
• 28:35
  SPEAKER_03: I don't want to feel this.
• 28:36
  SPEAKER_03: Like, let me just find acceptance, let me find peace and just bring that into my heart.
• 28:41
  SPEAKER_03: And that actually, that widow's bay, it really, really helped because in that like three minutes, she goes, um, like you have to feel it.
• 28:51
  SPEAKER_03: Like you just have to be in it.
• 28:53
  SPEAKER_03: You want to not feel, but you have to feel because we think that the intuition only comes from the good stuff that we're feeling, but it comes from the bad stuff too.
• 29:04
  SPEAKER_03: It's it's all informing us, it's all trying to show us something.
• 29:08
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 29:09
  SPEAKER_01: I want you to talk about your gut because you're so good at talking about your gut feelings, because that's where for generate for your pure generators like you, that's where your intuition comes through your body.
• 29:19
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but you don't watch, I know this about you.
• 29:23
  SPEAKER_01: You don't watch scary stuff.
• 29:25
  SPEAKER_01: None.
• 29:26
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and you chose to watch Widow's Bay.
• 29:30
  SPEAKER_01: I know.
• 29:30
  SPEAKER_01: So can you talk about that decision?
• 29:33
  SPEAKER_01: Like, so someone brings it up to you.
• 29:35
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah.
• 29:36
  SPEAKER_01: And did you just were you just like, what made you not go in, like not do what you always do and be like, nope, that's not what I do.
• 29:44
  SPEAKER_03: Oh my gosh.
• 29:45
  SPEAKER_03: Well, first off, I have a huge crush on John Ham, like who doesn't?
• 29:50
  SPEAKER_03: But he's got that other show on Apple TV.
• 29:54
  SPEAKER_03: And I watch what my intuition repeats.
• 29:57
  SPEAKER_03: So I was watching that neighbor show that John Hamm is in, like just crushing on him.
• 30:02
  SPEAKER_03: Friends and neighbors, yes, and then the Widow's Bay like premiere like came up and it was for like a month, just like okay, yeah.
• 30:10
  SPEAKER_03: No, I felt like um my intuition was saying, watch this.
• 30:13
  SPEAKER_03: And I was like, No, I don't you don't understand, God.
• 30:16
  SPEAKER_03: I don't watch scary, I don't watch scary stuff.
• 30:20
  SPEAKER_03: You told me not to take this in.
• 30:22
  SPEAKER_03: What are you talking about?
• 30:23
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, yeah.
• 30:24
  SPEAKER_03: Well, it it's it's funny.
• 30:26
  SPEAKER_03: So Elle, um, El one of Elle's very, very close friends, her mom.
• 30:31
  SPEAKER_01: El is Julie's daughter, yes.
• 30:34
  SPEAKER_03: Um her friend's mom is like this really, really big writer, but she writes horror.
• 30:39
  SPEAKER_03: And so I had her on the podcast once, and I was like, Cool, I don't go into this, you know, but like tell me a little bit about how you got into this.
• 30:48
  SPEAKER_03: And it was really wild because we hadn't had that conversation.
• 30:51
  SPEAKER_03: And she goes, I was so scared.
• 30:53
  SPEAKER_03: I had so much fear that she said I started to watch it because I wanted to overcome my own fear.
• 31:04
  SPEAKER_03: And um, it's Maureen Lurick.
• 31:08
  SPEAKER_03: If anybody wants to read her book, shout out Maureen, yeah.
• 31:12
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, shout out Maureen for her for her cool, like ghosty mom books.
• 31:16
  SPEAKER_01: But um that's such a cool genre.
• 31:19
  SPEAKER_01: Well, so you asked me like why I yeah, I I'm I just love hearing about how the gut works because I don't have one.
• 31:27
  SPEAKER_03: They brought back that conversation with Maureen and I kept seeing it.
• 31:30
  SPEAKER_03: So here I am, like in this total state of like fear and panic, and I'm seeing and hearing spirits say like watch this show, and we just get hundreds of these little intuitive hits every day.
• 31:42
  SPEAKER_03: And when they bring up a memory or they flash a memory, it's a way that the angels are trying to communicate a message.
• 31:49
  SPEAKER_03: So they brought up Maureen and that conversation with Maureen and how she said I was like in the state of fear, I was in the state of panic.
• 31:57
  SPEAKER_03: And um, I started watching it to overcome my fear, and I go, okay, that's something that I could get on board with.
• 32:04
  SPEAKER_03: Like that's something that I could try and do is like, how do I actually sit with these feelings?
• 32:11
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, because I'm so big.
• 32:13
  SPEAKER_01: I love this relationship that I hear that you you see it on there, and it's an immediate like, yeah, I want to watch that.
• 32:20
  SPEAKER_01: But then your brain, your logic is like, absolutely not.
• 32:23
  SPEAKER_01: That is not my thing.
• 32:24
  SPEAKER_01: And then spirit brings in spirit is like this, it's it's like a tool for your it like they know you so well that they're and you've asked for help and help me follow my intuition, help me, help me trust, help me surrender.
• 32:39
  SPEAKER_01: Like, you know, you have all these tools and you've asked for it.
• 32:43
  SPEAKER_01: And so they bring in, remember this conversation, and they bring in Maureen to give you this and they lead you without, like, I think a lot of people say, try to or imagine their intuition as something or as their like hearing from spirit is like, oh, I should just do this.
• 33:02
  SPEAKER_01: I should just do it even if I don't want to.
• 33:04
  SPEAKER_01: It's not, it's so much more ease-filled than that.
• 33:07
  SPEAKER_01: Spirit will never come into your mind and be like, you need to stop this, or like quit this, or you're eating too much, or you're like anything that makes you less than 100% perfect is not spirit.
• 33:20
  SPEAKER_01: So instead, they do this cool shit, which is like, I'm gonna come in and remind Julie, she's tuning in, she's asking for my help.
• 33:27
  SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna remind her of this conversation so that her logical brain that's constantly going can just bite on something for a little bit, and then she's gonna press play.
• 33:37
  SPEAKER_01: And then it's going to, it's going to feel good in her body.
• 33:40
  SPEAKER_01: She's gonna continue to follow this because that's how you're in alignment.
• 33:43
  SPEAKER_01: But I think it's so interesting that there is because you could see that as like you're not pulling, there's a difference between logical, I don't want to watch this because I don't watch scary shit.
• 33:56
  SPEAKER_01: That is a if-then thing.
• 33:59
  SPEAKER_01: And you're not justifying with this conversation with Maureen, you've been led to remember it as a tool to for your brain to chew on so that you can stop thinking about it and go with your gut.
• 34:13
  SPEAKER_03: Well, and so you can move past the fear, like it helps.
• 34:15
  SPEAKER_03: Absolutely right.
• 34:16
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 34:17
  SPEAKER_03: So the fear is in your head, right?
• 34:19
  SPEAKER_03: For sure, for sure.
• 34:20
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 34:21
  SPEAKER_03: So I started watching it and um like back in college, my roommate Sarah, I remember we watched a scary movie because she liked them and she was like, Do I need to push the beds together?
• 34:31
  SPEAKER_03: You know, you got the twin beds, right?
• 34:33
  SPEAKER_03: Do I need to push the beds together?
• 34:35
  SPEAKER_03: Um, and I was like, Yes, yes, you do.
• 34:38
  SPEAKER_03: Um and um, so Blake will do that now because Sarah and her kids live close and we see them sometimes.
• 34:44
  SPEAKER_04: And he's like, Do I need to cuddle you until you fall asleep?
• 34:48
  SPEAKER_04: And I was like, Yes, yes, you do.
• 34:50
  SPEAKER_03: Um, but then this time I was fine.
• 34:52
  SPEAKER_03: Like I didn't have that reaction.
• 34:55
  SPEAKER_03: And so it was something different.
• 34:57
  SPEAKER_03: And um yeah, and then I started to get it like, okay, I could look at this, I could see this as funny, and I can actually sit with my own pain and like the this heaviness and feel it more and just be with it and kind of nurture it and just see what it's trying to tell me instead of really trying to push it away or just not feel that, you know, like I just want to feel good.
• 35:27
  unknown: Yeah.
• 35:27
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 35:28
  SPEAKER_01: Well, and I mean, yeah, and and you're you are through in human design would say that you like you are programmed basically to do that.
• 35:37
  SPEAKER_01: If you just get out of your head and into your body, like it will lead you to where you're meant to be.
• 35:41
  SPEAKER_01: And sometimes it is to those places, like there isn't a path that is fall flawless.
• 35:48
  SPEAKER_01: Sometimes it is to those places that you need to know, like you need to see, you know, you need to follow some like your gut on, huh?
• 35:57
  SPEAKER_01: This doesn't look right on social media.
• 35:59
  SPEAKER_01: This doesn't like sometimes your gut is leading you there because you need to figure that out and you need to have this experience of sitting in a really scary moment and really coming out of it with the lesson that you're meant to learn from it, you know.
• 36:15
  SPEAKER_01: But I think it's, I don't know, that's just a cool example to me.
• 36:19
  SPEAKER_01: And I also want to bring up, you were talking about earlier this logic channel, this 63.4.
• 36:25
  SPEAKER_01: And I think there's a cool nugget in there that I want to bring out this, which is the what connects your head to your ajna, um, how this shows up for you.
• 36:34
  SPEAKER_01: So this is let me, I'll read you.
• 36:37
  SPEAKER_01: I like to read from my software, which is from um bodygraph um.com, just so that you can react to it in its purest sense.
• 36:45
  SPEAKER_01: So you it's the channel of logic.
• 36:48
  SPEAKER_01: You seek, find, and perceive logical patterns that open up a world of possibilities.
• 36:53
  SPEAKER_01: Through your questions and data analysis, you can anticipate future developments.
• 36:57
  SPEAKER_01: Your mental strength lies in helping others, not understanding your own life.
• 37:02
  SPEAKER_01: You await someone to cross your path to share your clarity and inspiration with.
• 37:07
  SPEAKER_01: So um you said this earlier, but as you're talking about, you know, thinking about the future, um, this is a very, that's a very cool way that I don't think that, you know, trends and knowing things before they, you know, happen, but it's also a projected channel, which means that people's, you need to invite your insight um in order for it to land.
• 37:33
  SPEAKER_03: So I talk about this in like, so I spent like the last six months too, writing my next book.
• 37:38
  SPEAKER_03: And um I talk a lot about how the angels work with me specifically and how remember being like in college or a student, and you would like take a highlighter and you would just go through your textbook and highlight stuff and circle different things and be like, okay, I gotta come back to this.
• 37:56
  SPEAKER_03: Spirit does that in everyday conversation, in everyday life where they highlight things, they circle it, they emphasize it, and it just keeps coming back around until you go do it.
• 38:08
  SPEAKER_03: Um, you know, one of the things that the angels were saying to just tell everybody listening is what you're talking about, Carr.
• 38:16
  SPEAKER_03: Sometimes they take you back into the past and have you like understand either your own past or um I've been watching a lot of documentaries too, just about like the country and just how we got to 250 years and just everything, um, different biographies.
• 38:35
  SPEAKER_03: I love biographies because biographies are like watching angels in action of how people listen to their intuition where they didn't listen to the intuition and move forward.
• 38:49
  SPEAKER_03: But um, one of the things that I've been seeing a lot of is, you know, we often think as spiritual folks, oh, you know what, I'd love to go and create my own spiritual business.
• 39:01
  SPEAKER_03: I don't know how to start, or I don't know if God would like bless me in this.
• 39:05
  SPEAKER_03: People want to start a coffee shop, you know, like people want to start like um think about the olden days where you had like a newspaper in town, the post office, the you know, the grocer.
• 39:19
  SPEAKER_03: People have these different businesses and God is blessing each one because they're of service to folks in the way that they need a service.
• 39:29
  SPEAKER_03: This is of service too.
• 39:31
  SPEAKER_03: And um, like I don't care about anybody else's definition of success because I see now what everything is, and all of that is just bullshit.
• 39:45
  SPEAKER_03: And the only thing that is true is people have different needs.
• 39:51
  SPEAKER_03: You have different things within you that you understand that you can teach ways that you can move other souls forward, one step, four steps, ten steps, and that's your gift.
• 40:04
  SPEAKER_03: That's how you can help and serve them.
• 40:07
  SPEAKER_03: So the only true definition of success is are you present enough with your own life, your feelings, emotions to really understand yourself and how you're going through life in order to reach back and continue to pull people forward to where you are and then thrust them in front of you, you know, like to make sure that they're getting what they need.
• 40:35
  SPEAKER_03: And so, in in that way, all of us here have these different gifts.
• 40:39
  SPEAKER_01: And that is your gift, like this channel that is your and it's for other people, like this.
• 40:46
  SPEAKER_01: So, this channel that you're able to see, you know, on whatever level, some like patterns, like you've said you've do this with the people that you work with, you see things for them, you look at, you know, and what you're using in terms of the logical patterns, like you're pulling in spirit there, which is mystical, but then you're also pulling in this look at how things have worked, look at the logic, look at, you know, if you want to start a spiritual business, there's tons of businesses that have started over the centuries.
• 41:17
  SPEAKER_01: God's not going to, you know, tell you no.
• 41:21
  SPEAKER_01: And if you are tuned into the present moment, which is totally exactly what you should be doing with your gut, and just listening and going with it.
• 41:30
  SPEAKER_01: And, you know, you feel that resistance.
• 41:32
  SPEAKER_01: You talk about lights when it comes to your gut, like green light, red light, yellow light.
• 41:36
  SPEAKER_01: And the yellow light is also a not yet.
• 41:39
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, generators are conditioned to push through that yellow light.
• 41:44
  SPEAKER_01: And you're, you know, when you're honoring yourself, I think what you have said is you're slowing down there and just pausing, yeah.
• 41:51
  SPEAKER_01: Right?
• 41:51
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, um, I did.
• 41:53
  SPEAKER_03: I paused for six months.
• 41:54
  SPEAKER_03: Now Ray kicked it into full gear.
• 41:56
  SPEAKER_03: I'm Ray got.
• 41:57
  SPEAKER_01: Well, you're because you're getting that hell yes, right?
• 41:59
  SPEAKER_01: Do you feel that?
• 42:00
  SPEAKER_01: How do you feel a gut hell yeah?
• 42:03
  SPEAKER_01: Like, does it feel like someone punches you?
• 42:05
  SPEAKER_01: Does it feel like like just alignment?
• 42:09
  SPEAKER_01: Does it like I don't have this feeling I clear so clarity, but it in your body?
• 42:16
  SPEAKER_01: Like you when you talk about a gut, hell yes.
• 42:19
  SPEAKER_03: Okay, so if uh certain people can feel about 10% of the population can't feel within their bodies, right?
• 42:28
  SPEAKER_02: Okay.
• 42:28
  SPEAKER_03: And um, I can feel energies.
• 42:32
  SPEAKER_03: I can feel when there's an absence of energy and something's hollow, I can feel when there's an intense energy within something and it's radiating.
• 42:41
  SPEAKER_03: Um, there's an energy within my actual physical head, which is interesting because you were talking about like those uh arrows.
• 42:49
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you have consistent energy.
• 42:50
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 42:51
  SPEAKER_01: You have a consistent way of being in your head and your ash.
• 42:53
  SPEAKER_01: Yep.
• 42:54
  SPEAKER_03: So when the head feels like a storm is inside of it, um, there's a lot of clouds, it's foggy, it don't have clarity.
• 43:05
  SPEAKER_03: It's like you're on a ship and you don't know which way to land is, right?
• 43:09
  SPEAKER_03: Because you can't see through the fog.
• 43:12
  SPEAKER_03: There's there's just an absence of direction and what to do next.
• 43:18
  SPEAKER_03: That is a red light or a yellow light where you just you don't know which way to go.
• 43:24
  SPEAKER_03: You don't know what to do.
• 43:25
  SPEAKER_03: So you're not gonna go take all of this action at that moment because you don't know.
• 43:32
  SPEAKER_03: But what I think a lot of people, and this is the conversation we were having before, people just want to say, fog go away.
• 43:41
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 43:44
  SPEAKER_01: Move a little bit faster, right?
• 43:45
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 43:45
  SPEAKER_03: But that's not doing the work.
• 43:47
  SPEAKER_03: The work is sitting with the fog and saying, Okay, God, it might take you six months to show me the way.
• 43:54
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 43:54
  SPEAKER_03: But I'm gonna continue to live and I'm gonna continue to sit with it, and I'm gonna continue to do my work and also be in joy and enjoy my life.
• 44:03
  SPEAKER_03: And I know when the clarity comes and the fog leaves my head, and it's like a perfectly sunshine, beautiful day with no cloud in the sky inside my head, and I have this clarity and direction.
• 44:18
  SPEAKER_03: Not only has the fog lifted Charlie, but now there's a road in front, a new road I've never been on before.
• 44:26
  SPEAKER_03: And I can see exactly where I'm going down, and I know I'm gonna hit this and I'm gonna hit this in the future.
• 44:32
  SPEAKER_03: That is the path.
• 44:33
  SPEAKER_03: That's what I'm trying to build.
• 44:36
  SPEAKER_03: So then I go, okay, that's the direction that I'm gonna go in.
• 44:40
  SPEAKER_03: I said at one point in the book that the angels really always give you two concrete pieces of information, and that brings me clarity, and that is the final piece of the road.
• 44:57
  SPEAKER_03: Like, what does it look like when I've reached the end of?
• 45:00
  SPEAKER_03: That path.
• 45:01
  SPEAKER_03: What is my goal in this?
• 45:03
  SPEAKER_03: And what is my next step to go take?
• 45:06
  SPEAKER_03: Those are the two pieces of information that I'm really, really clear on.
• 45:11
  SPEAKER_03: And I feel it in my heart and in my head, like, yes, now go.
• 45:15
  SPEAKER_03: Now go forth.
• 45:17
  SPEAKER_03: Bring this into the world.
• 45:19
  SPEAKER_03: And yeah.
• 45:21
  SPEAKER_03: So that's when you just like go out and you start taking action.
• 45:24
  SPEAKER_01: That's, I mean, that's an interesting.
• 45:25
  SPEAKER_01: I always say your head and your eyes are really for other people to put give, put information into.
• 45:31
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but I think it's interesting, like you have this energy that you're really tapped into.
• 45:35
  SPEAKER_01: What you're doing is you're feeling into your consistent energy and noticing a disruption to that consistency.
• 45:41
  SPEAKER_01: You're sort of putting out feelers that way.
• 45:45
  SPEAKER_01: When you say trust your gut, I'm trying to figure out because I'm I'm hearing the feeling your energy in the head, but I've not talked to generators who don't have that moment to moment, your strategy, meaning that you're going through life responding to what comes your way and going with yes or no based on your gut response.
• 46:08
  SPEAKER_01: Is that less strong, maybe if you have a defined head and ajna energy too, because you've got different places.
• 46:14
  SPEAKER_01: You do have a split definition, which means that you've got two areas of your energy that are not connected.
• 46:21
  SPEAKER_01: Um, so you've got, you know, your head and your ajna and your throat, which is, you know, delivering your delivering ideas, basically.
• 46:27
  SPEAKER_01: That's your your channel up there.
• 46:29
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and then you've got your root, which is pressured to go move, your sacral, which is creative, and then your spleen, which is guiding.
• 46:38
  SPEAKER_01: That's your spidey senses.
• 46:40
  SPEAKER_01: You've got those two areas.
• 46:41
  SPEAKER_01: So maybe this is just a reflection of how both of those areas come through when it comes to decision time.
• 46:47
  SPEAKER_01: Is that fair?
• 46:48
  SPEAKER_03: Well, I think that this year has just been much, much different.
• 46:52
  SPEAKER_03: So, like without saying too much, like um I had this really weird situation where if you could imagine like having a stalker situation where they were inside your membership for who knows how long listening to you, which my membership is like a personal space, right?
• 47:11
  SPEAKER_03: That I created to um just say like whatever's on my head, you know, and uh whatever messages are with me.
• 47:21
  SPEAKER_03: And I don't have to have the message perfect to be on the podcast yet, but I could just be free flowing and I was always pretty free flowing on the podcast, but something happened with my intuition and just the way that my body works when all of this went down, where I felt um very, very the most violated that I've ever felt.
• 47:43
  SPEAKER_03: And um, I went to go talk on the podcast or I went to go talk in the membership, and I physically couldn't get the words to come out of my mouth.
• 47:53
  SPEAKER_03: So over the last six months on the podcast, I've had to play old episodes because I physically couldn't get to all of that.
• 48:01
  SPEAKER_03: Um interesting.
• 48:03
  SPEAKER_03: And so do I think that I had like yes or no before?
• 48:07
  SPEAKER_03: Yes.
• 48:09
  SPEAKER_03: Um, I have been scared.
• 48:11
  SPEAKER_03: I've been trying to work with why am I scared to talk or why is this not coming out?
• 48:15
  SPEAKER_03: Because everything that I've said, like this person has used to hurt me.
• 48:20
  SPEAKER_03: And so I have to now think about, you know, ADHD people, we just kind of don't think, we just talk from our hearts and what's our truth.
• 48:29
  SPEAKER_03: And if somebody's taking stuff that you say and using it to like violate you and hurt you, now instead of just speaking freely, you're thinking about, you know, should I say that or should I not?
• 48:43
  SPEAKER_03: You know, like is this person gonna take this and use it to hurt me?
• 48:46
  SPEAKER_03: Are they not?
• 48:47
  SPEAKER_03: And um, you know, because it's not just me, it's wrapped up with my family as well.
• 48:52
  SPEAKER_03: It's an even greater like safety thing.
• 48:54
  SPEAKER_03: And so um, it's really just felt like intuition-wise, be like privately, totally fine, but in a bigger group setting, like I know that this is gonna air and people are gonna hear hear it.
• 49:08
  SPEAKER_03: It feels like a turtle going back into its shell, and it's felt really frustrating because there's been more fog than I've ever had to deal with in my entire life.
• 49:22
  SPEAKER_03: Um, but getting to that clarity feels to me right now like everything feels clear in all of my chakras.
• 49:31
  SPEAKER_03: Like I can't live.
• 49:33
  SPEAKER_03: It would feel more awful to live in this like scared state of being for the rest of my life than to just be like, what's the force that this person is gonna do?
• 49:45
  SPEAKER_03: You know, like and yeah, and you know what?
• 49:48
  SPEAKER_03: Like, I have to just live my life.
• 49:50
  SPEAKER_03: I have to be who I am and yes, um, like kind of to wanda to like fuck it, you know, that you just you just have to be yourself.
• 50:02
  SPEAKER_03: And I've tried to figure it out every other way, and so now it's kind of like um I'm getting used to speaking again, but it's starting to come back, it's like starting to come back naturally and just flow, and that feels really good.
• 50:16
  SPEAKER_01: Well, because you're so used to just like generators are going like what their gut leads them to what lights them up, and you're used to sharing that.
• 50:25
  SPEAKER_01: And I think what you were describing, like, first of all, frustration is the not-self sign of generators.
• 50:31
  SPEAKER_01: And what I'm hearing is you had something happen in real life that made you question whether or not you can trust that just sharing, that just like knowing, right?
• 50:44
  SPEAKER_01: And so, and so then you go to this other center, this head, this ajna that is not really meant for you to be making decisions on.
• 50:52
  SPEAKER_01: And so therefore you're feeling frustrated because you can't trust that thing that you've trusted.
• 50:57
  SPEAKER_01: You know, and it's hard to after that episode to like go back and really remember, no, I'm meant to do what lights me up.
• 51:06
  SPEAKER_01: Let me just tell you, because I feel like spirit's telling me to tell you this too.
• 51:10
  SPEAKER_01: Julie has uh every gate but one lit up in her spleen.
• 51:15
  SPEAKER_01: So you will know if you are not safe.
• 51:19
  SPEAKER_01: Like you will know.
• 51:21
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 51:22
  SPEAKER_01: And if you didn't before or if whatever happened with this person, that's a a lesson that you are walking through that will, you know, and you know, you said it's it's been a hard time and it's been a blessing.
• 51:35
  SPEAKER_01: It's been, you know, it's been we said it's like in the moment, it doesn't feel like you know, this isn't such a blessed time, but like you can trust yourself so like you've got so much definition.
• 51:49
  SPEAKER_01: You have such a strong um energy around keeping yourself, keeping the community safe.
• 51:55
  SPEAKER_01: Like you've you've got this, and that disconnection is what led to that.
• 52:01
  SPEAKER_01: But you can trust, I mean, that's hard.
• 52:05
  SPEAKER_01: That what you're talking about is basically coming, you've had an attack on your where your intuition comes through because it feels like you should have known better, and that's what you've been conditioned to believe and you shouldn't have.
• 52:16
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah, a hundred percent, a hundred percent.
• 52:18
  SPEAKER_03: And it's also like um just equally hard because it's your family too, you know, and you just want to like them save, protect them, and you're like, I think that just kind of amplifies it.
• 52:32
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, a hundred percent, a hundred percent.
• 52:34
  SPEAKER_01: It made it feel like you couldn't trust yourself, right?
• 52:36
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, oh yeah, yeah.
• 52:38
  SPEAKER_01: That's that's that's hard.
• 52:41
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, for sure, for sure.
• 52:43
  SPEAKER_04: But it feels better that it's all coming back online.
• 52:46
  SPEAKER_04: Oh my god.
• 52:46
  SPEAKER_01: Well, that and and I mean that's speed, that's that's good for generators to hear though, Jules, because like especially people who have this split definition.
• 52:55
  SPEAKER_01: So see how these three are connected down here, this root, yeah, this sacral and this split.
• 53:01
  SPEAKER_01: This is what I was talking about.
• 53:02
  SPEAKER_01: This is the thing that I see it as like one of those baby saucers that um if you run into something, you'll know it's not safe.
• 53:10
  SPEAKER_01: But otherwise, you're free to go.
• 53:11
  SPEAKER_01: It's that deer instinct, you know.
• 53:13
  SPEAKER_03: And you know what happens with that too, Car, what you're talking about right there, is if I do not go do that thing and I know I'm supposed to go do it, I've got the green light, and then I don't, I feel like I am in building a prison of my own making.
• 53:31
  SPEAKER_03: Whereas when I'm running with the green lights and like running forward in my life, I feel so expansive.
• 53:39
  SPEAKER_03: I feel like I'm in my soul's energy, I feel so free, I feel happy, I feel joyful.
• 53:44
  SPEAKER_03: Um, and it feels very much just so fun to go through life that way.
• 53:49
  SPEAKER_00: Like that's you're meant to inspire us that way, right?
• 53:52
  SPEAKER_03: With absolutely booking the Sedona trip and just yeah, I came to that realization.
• 53:57
  SPEAKER_03: I was like, oh, I have an like I have an audience that wants to go places.
• 54:01
  SPEAKER_03: I've had an audience that wanted to go places for the last 10 years.
• 54:05
  SPEAKER_03: I I could just be going on these beautiful trips to like these gorgeous places, like, and God was like, Yep.
• 54:15
  SPEAKER_01: Well, I but here's the thing, like, and and you're I mean, you also, so that is a gut decision too.
• 54:22
  SPEAKER_01: You just book that mansion place, you know.
• 54:24
  SPEAKER_03: Like within like an hour, like I'd been looking at Sedona for two years, and I really researched it, but then I I saw it.
• 54:30
  SPEAKER_01: One line, there's your one line, right?
• 54:32
  SPEAKER_01: There's your one line, and then here comes the here comes the inspiration with you probably see it online, and then it's a yes.
• 54:39
  SPEAKER_03: The biggest single purchase I've ever made in my career to just book it and be like, Yep, I think people will come on this retreat.
• 54:46
  SPEAKER_03: Let's just book it and God is gonna figure it out.
• 54:49
  SPEAKER_03: And then, like within 24 hours, like 75% of the slots were filled.
• 54:55
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 54:56
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, well, see that's just such a beautiful example of going.
• 54:59
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, you did, you took your time.
• 55:01
  SPEAKER_01: Like, one lines do, I mean, it's that's such a juxposition between having this powerhouse of a gut to be able to like to give you that, like, yep, green light, but also needing information to make you feel sort of safe and settled.
• 55:17
  SPEAKER_01: That's that's a one-line thing.
• 55:19
  SPEAKER_01: They need to have done their research.
• 55:20
  SPEAKER_01: And also, you have this, you know, three-line, you have this sacral that's going to let's do, let's do, this pressure from your root to do.
• 55:27
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I think something that spirit brought through while you were talking that we can bring back to the story that you've been telling.
• 55:35
  SPEAKER_01: Um things sometimes happen in your life, like this person who came into your life for a reason.
• 55:45
  SPEAKER_01: Um but a stranger.
• 55:48
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 55:48
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 55:49
  SPEAKER_01: Um, right.
• 55:50
  SPEAKER_01: And like this this situation.
• 55:52
  SPEAKER_05: Uh-huh.
• 55:53
  SPEAKER_01: It doesn't mean that you're not in alignment following your gut when that happens.
• 55:59
  SPEAKER_01: It doesn't mean, and I feel like that's that's the first thing is maybe I did something wrong, maybe I can't believe what I've been trusting this whole time.
• 56:07
  SPEAKER_01: And that's where you sort of took that away from yourself.
• 56:10
  SPEAKER_03: I think that I had to, though, because who was behind it and who was doing it is another healer.
• 56:19
  SPEAKER_03: And I looked at um everything and just thought to myself, okay, if I'm in this position of having a podcast and reaching people, and I am part of a voice, a collective voice of all these different healers within the world and just intuitives putting content out into the world.
• 56:45
  SPEAKER_03: Who am I?
• 56:47
  SPEAKER_03: And what um who are other people?
• 56:51
  SPEAKER_03: How do I trust other people now?
• 56:53
  SPEAKER_01: Um what's your motivation?
• 56:57
  SPEAKER_01: Like, how can you trust your yeah?
• 57:01
  SPEAKER_03: And so then you start to look at, okay, I'm hosting a podcast, I'm having all of these people on that you can do maybe, you know, an hour to three hours of research on, vetting them before they come on.
• 57:16
  SPEAKER_03: And I'm just sharing them with other people, and then other people are working with this person, and it made me feel like I don't want to put anyone out there that I don't know personally is good for the world because holy shit, there is a lot happening behind the scenes.
• 57:36
  SPEAKER_03: And you know what?
• 57:37
  SPEAKER_03: 80% is great.
• 57:39
  SPEAKER_03: I think 80% is on the up and up, and people really are who they say they are.
• 57:45
  SPEAKER_03: But I saw a different point that made me question everything to the point of I was like, what are the boundaries?
• 57:53
  SPEAKER_03: Like, what is evil?
• 57:54
  SPEAKER_03: Like, where does evil really exist?
• 57:56
  SPEAKER_03: And I started questioning kind of everything.
• 58:00
  SPEAKER_03: And I don't want to add to anything toxic within the world.
• 58:06
  SPEAKER_03: I have made mistakes in the past in like small ways of not having conversations with people that I should have had conversations with because I was in the hardest period of my entire life.
• 58:19
  SPEAKER_03: And I have gone back and apologized and um, but it made me go back over everything that I have ever done and say, who am I?
• 58:30
  SPEAKER_03: Who am I putting out there to the rest of the world?
• 58:34
  SPEAKER_03: And do I want to continue doing things the same way?
• 58:37
  SPEAKER_03: And I I don't want to continue doing the same things the same way.
• 58:42
  SPEAKER_03: I think I even looked at it and said, Do I really even want to do this anymore?
• 58:46
  SPEAKER_03: Like is it was that big of like, like, yeah, like who am I in all of this?
• 58:52
  SPEAKER_03: And do I even want to continue?
• 58:54
  SPEAKER_03: Well, that's huge.
• 58:55
  SPEAKER_01: Well, I think the huge reconnection to your your intuition to your body.
• 59:01
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, like, yeah, the biggest conditioning for generators, especially generator women, is politeness.
• 59:09
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 59:10
  SPEAKER_01: And is, you know, the fear of will I be seen as bad?
• 59:15
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, you grew up hella Catholic, like what what's good, what's bad, you know, and I want to be good so that, you know, you're it's it's so deeply ingrained, and it it does come into your cells almost, you know.
• 59:29
  SPEAKER_01: That's a lot of there's so many layers of our our being.
• 59:34
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but I think, you know, you're talking about say like setting boundaries.
• 59:41
  SPEAKER_01: Is it easier for you to say no than it was in the past because of this?
• 59:50
  SPEAKER_01: Do you think that God put this in your path so that you can really release that conditioning of I need to be polite, I need to trust everybody, I need to, you know, show up as a certain way.
• 1:00:03
  SPEAKER_01: What how let me oh yeah, oh yeah.
• 1:00:07
  SPEAKER_03: And and and part of it now is um I don't know exactly who to be.
• 1:00:12
  SPEAKER_03: And I'm gonna explain this in multiple different ways because, you know, um I did show up very, very polite at the beginning, like all of the years of my podcast.
• 1:00:25
  SPEAKER_03: And you know how you're different things to different people.
• 1:00:30
  SPEAKER_03: And um, you know, people will come in and say, like, oh my God, like I can't believe I'm talking to you.
• 1:00:37
  SPEAKER_03: Like, I'm such a big fan.
• 1:00:38
  SPEAKER_03: And that is so kind, and that it is so nice, and yet, like, I don't get dressed most days or put on like my makeup.
• 1:00:46
  SPEAKER_04: Well, you're not naked, right?
• 1:00:47
  SPEAKER_03: Well, no, no, no.
• 1:00:48
  SPEAKER_03: Like, I've got on like a little, you know, like athletic dress, right?
• 1:00:52
  SPEAKER_01: It's so cute.
• 1:00:53
  SPEAKER_03: But you know, like like girl, I'm just over here in my house, like like just working on shit and like I'm not around people a lot of time, and like um I'm just a human being looking for connection and friends and and connection as well.
• 1:01:08
  SPEAKER_03: And so, you know, you you think about that, and then you think about who you are to other people.
• 1:01:13
  SPEAKER_03: Because if I was out with you and we were going to get drinks, or if I was out with my best friend in college or different people, I'd be swearing up a shit show, you know, because that's who I am, even with my daughter, you know, she's a teenager now, and yeah, you know, swear, you know, but um like I You're a mom, you're a mom.
• 1:01:31
  SPEAKER_03: Yes, yes, and just like I'm just a human being.
• 1:01:34
  SPEAKER_03: And um, even Teresa Caputo said one time she was like, I just swear all the time.
• 1:01:38
  SPEAKER_03: Like I have a sailor's mouth.
• 1:01:39
  SPEAKER_03: And I like, I get that, you know, like I've got a sailor's mouth too.
• 1:01:43
  SPEAKER_03: Um, but like, can you be that way on your own podcast when you haven't been that way before?
• 1:01:50
  SPEAKER_03: And there's so many different things, Carr.
• 1:01:55
  SPEAKER_03: Like, there's so many different things that we haven't talked about within the spiritual community of so who am I supposed to now that I'm coming back to the podcast?
• 1:02:05
  SPEAKER_03: Who am I supposed to be now?
• 1:02:07
  SPEAKER_03: And a part of me wants to come on the podcast and be like, I don't totally know.
• 1:02:12
  SPEAKER_03: So some days I'm gonna come in and be like meditating and being in a peaceful mode.
• 1:02:18
  SPEAKER_03: And maybe I'll put on the beginning of the podcast.
• 1:02:20
  SPEAKER_03: It's a rant day.
• 1:02:21
  SPEAKER_03: We're just gonna fucking go off and we're gonna say the shit.
• 1:02:24
  SPEAKER_03: We're gonna be real and we're just gonna dive in.
• 1:02:27
  SPEAKER_03: And maybe some days we need to look at the hard stuff.
• 1:02:31
  SPEAKER_03: I do think that there is not everybody, I think most people are accepting of that.
• 1:02:36
  SPEAKER_03: I think that there's a very small but loud percentage of people who come back and just go, but I just need this from you.
• 1:02:42
  SPEAKER_03: Like I need you to be the peaceful person, I need you to be the person that I get my peace and my ease from.
• 1:02:48
  SPEAKER_03: And so then you in the past I would have questioned that, and now I go, Oh no, that's what you need, but this is not your job, right?
• 1:02:57
  SPEAKER_03: This is who I need to be.
• 1:02:58
  SPEAKER_01: It's not the energy that you are here to bring to the world.
• 1:03:01
  SPEAKER_01: The one thing that you keep bringing up that I think is important for people to hear, and that is your undefined G center.
• 1:03:07
  SPEAKER_01: I see a lot of people who have an undefined G center, which is your center for identity.
• 1:03:13
  SPEAKER_01: So, what that means is you are not here to have a set identity.
• 1:03:19
  SPEAKER_01: And identity is different from who you are, it's what you're exactly what you're talking about.
• 1:03:25
  SPEAKER_01: Some days you are a meditator and you are recording beautiful, you know, meditations and connecting to your angels, and someday you're pissed, and some days you're sassy, and you know what like sometimes I'm just the girl that you get drinks with after work and we can just talk about all the shit.
• 1:03:43
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 1:03:44
  SPEAKER_01: What a beautiful expression, yeah.
• 1:03:47
  SPEAKER_01: Because what what I have said to people in the past, and what I hearing you talk about this, it's making me think about is you know, people with open G centers are the people call them social chameleons too.
• 1:03:58
  SPEAKER_01: Um, that they can blend in in every environment.
• 1:04:02
  SPEAKER_01: And I think there's a different way to look at that now that you're saying this, it's like you can be whoever you want to be.
• 1:04:09
  SPEAKER_01: You are meant to be who you are based on your it's literally based on your environment.
• 1:04:14
  SPEAKER_01: So, you know, that's you are meant to based on where you are, based on, you know, whatever, whatever's around you at the time, that is you are meant to express that in the way that you are in that moment, and you are not meant to have a consistent way of being.
• 1:04:30
  SPEAKER_01: And I think the people who were depend on that are not looking inside of themselves for the peace they need.
• 1:04:38
  SPEAKER_01: You know, I think you're it that's still looking outside of yourself, that's not connecting to your soul's energy and your soul's truth, you know.
• 1:04:48
  SPEAKER_01: For there's and there's different aspects, like we said, that comes through your body and your gut, but it also gets your spiritual connection.
• 1:04:53
  SPEAKER_01: I think that's why I do I combine them because there's so much to get from both of them.
• 1:04:59
  SPEAKER_01: But what a beautiful expression of not having some people feel very lost, like they need to have an identity, and that they need they are missing something for not having this sense of direction or having a consistent way of being in the showing up in the world.
• 1:05:18
  SPEAKER_01: But you are like, well, this is like a hoo-poo platter, right?
• 1:05:22
  SPEAKER_01: I get to I get to do whatever I want to do that is circuitry board of the right exactly.
• 1:05:28
  SPEAKER_01: I get to choose, it's a sampler, I get to do what I want to do, and all of them are you, yeah.
• 1:05:35
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, what a beautiful expression.
• 1:05:36
  SPEAKER_01: All right, keep going.
• 1:05:37
  SPEAKER_03: A couple more things that keep coming to mind.
• 1:05:39
  SPEAKER_03: I was telling one of the girls in my sessions earlier, I did a session with her mom, and then um her mom was like, You have to do a session for my daughter.
• 1:05:46
  SPEAKER_03: All this stuff was coming through about her, and so I was on the phone with her today, and um the angels go, tell her the truth.
• 1:05:53
  SPEAKER_03: And so it just like blurred out of my mouth.
• 1:05:55
  SPEAKER_03: And I was like, I wish somebody would have pulled me aside in my 30s and been like, No, you don't understand.
• 1:06:04
  SPEAKER_03: Like when you get to your 40s, your your body just shifts, your hormones shift, your energy just shifts in such a dramatic way that I don't know what I'm going through right now in this big hormonal energetic shift of just my my body growing older.
• 1:06:25
  SPEAKER_03: And obviously I'm not that old, but it's just a big transformation, is I don't have the ability anymore to just be quiet.
• 1:06:34
  SPEAKER_03: Like I need to vocalize what I'm going through.
• 1:06:38
  SPEAKER_03: Like I have this need to vocalize um and just be who I am and be different on different days because my body is going through just so much.
• 1:06:49
  SPEAKER_03: Um, the other thing that was coming through, you were talking about the Catholic piece.
• 1:06:53
  SPEAKER_03: And I think that there's a very interesting piece in here because one of the things that I was writing in the book.
• 1:07:00
  SPEAKER_03: Is when we went to New York City for Elle's surgery last year.
• 1:07:05
  SPEAKER_03: Um I kept passing saying big surgery, everybody.
• 1:07:09
  SPEAKER_01: This is like a big, big moment in Julie's family's life.
• 1:07:12
  SPEAKER_01: So just to give everybody where you are in this moment that when you're in New York.
• 1:07:17
  SPEAKER_03: So I had this like situation we've been talking about come up.
• 1:07:20
  SPEAKER_03: And then Elle's like going through this big surgery, and we're there.
• 1:07:24
  SPEAKER_03: And um, I took her in a couple days early so that we could just sightsee.
• 1:07:29
  SPEAKER_01: I remember you called me.
• 1:07:31
  SPEAKER_01: You had just met one of the celebrities.
• 1:07:33
  SPEAKER_01: Um was on like cloud nine.
• 1:07:36
  SPEAKER_03: Oh my God, she loves all the musicals out there.
• 1:07:39
  SPEAKER_03: I know I love you and her together.
• 1:07:40
  SPEAKER_03: So much joy.
• 1:07:42
  SPEAKER_03: So much joy.
• 1:07:43
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 1:07:43
  SPEAKER_03: Yes.
• 1:07:44
  SPEAKER_03: But so her and I are walking around, and every time we we pass, I think it's St.
• 1:07:49
  SPEAKER_03: Patrick's Cathedral, I hear the angels go, go in.
• 1:07:52
  SPEAKER_03: And I was like, I when my parents split, you know, we would go to a big mega church instead of the Catholic church.
• 1:08:00
  SPEAKER_03: And I actually hadn't been to church in probably decades.
• 1:08:06
  SPEAKER_03: And um, I kept hearing go in, and I was just in this state of just fight or flight, so deep.
• 1:08:14
  SPEAKER_03: And so after we checked everything off on Elle's list, we ended up going in and I heard go back to church.
• 1:08:24
  SPEAKER_01: No way.
• 1:08:26
  SPEAKER_03: And this thing has been coming in, and I actually think it's about helping nuns, but I'm gonna figure that out.
• 1:08:33
  SPEAKER_03: Woohoo! Um, because I think nuns really got left behind in a lot, and I think that they need some support.
• 1:08:42
  SPEAKER_03: But um what I really come to in this reflection is that I left the Catholic Church because I didn't like what was happening back in the day, and I didn't feel safe.
• 1:08:57
  SPEAKER_03: You know, not all people are safe.
• 1:08:58
  SPEAKER_03: I've always been looking for this safe, magical place.
• 1:09:03
  SPEAKER_03: Didn't love, you know, when I went into the megachurches, um, people would be like, oh, you know, like angels were talked about, and like people heard angels back in the day and the Bible times, but you can't hear angels today.
• 1:09:16
  SPEAKER_03: So I really had to reserve talking about it.
• 1:09:19
  SPEAKER_01: But you got a lot of hate.
• 1:09:20
  SPEAKER_01: You have gotten a lot where you live in Illinois, too, is particularly religious.
• 1:09:26
  SPEAKER_03: Bible belt of the Middle East is based on my town.
• 1:09:30
  SPEAKER_03: Um, so uh didn't feel really safe there, you know, like kind of felt pushed out there because I couldn't talk about angels.
• 1:09:40
  SPEAKER_03: And um, and then having all of this happen within the spiritual community, really feeling like the spiritual community wasn't safe either.
• 1:09:52
  SPEAKER_03: And so really working with my angels over the last six months to to feel like oh, nowhere in the world is there this magical place where everything is safe and everyone is safe, and that is something that we have to build within us.
• 1:10:13
  SPEAKER_03: And what I know about myself now is I am safe for myself.
• 1:10:21
  SPEAKER_03: God, my angels, my loved ones on the other side are safe for me.
• 1:10:26
  SPEAKER_03: And I will always find my way back to myself by listening to my own intuition.
• 1:10:33
  SPEAKER_03: Like I will always girl, no matter what brutal cards life hands you, you can make them beautiful.
• 1:10:41
  SPEAKER_01: You are always yeah, yes.
• 1:10:43
  SPEAKER_03: And so I feel like there's a lot coming out of this like last six months for me of also showing people um, God, what have we been doing in the spiritual community?
• 1:10:55
  SPEAKER_03: That it all has to look like this freaking cookie cutter thing that like your spirituality has to look exactly like mine.
• 1:11:03
  SPEAKER_03: And you can go to church and you can have spiritual practices and be deeply spiritual and mystical.
• 1:11:10
  SPEAKER_01: That's the gift, that's the gift you get to choose, right?
• 1:11:13
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, because I I don't think that the spiritual community has done as good of a job as of bringing local community, which people are in desperate need for.
• 1:11:25
  SPEAKER_01: And so for the point that you're talking about, there's been huge, it's like what people say sp coming out of the spiritual closet for a reason, you know, because it feels like you don't know.
• 1:11:35
  SPEAKER_01: And I feel like more people are open to it.
• 1:11:38
  SPEAKER_01: And I mean, from church, what what I channeled in a beautiful session, I can't remember when it was a while ago, but um, I talked to a lot of people who are grappling with I go to church and I'm spiritual, and I mean I'm an Episcopalian.
• 1:11:54
  SPEAKER_01: And what came through for Christianity, because that's where my my base is, is that first generation Christians watched this happen, you know, and so easy to believe, love is abundant, we are unconditionally loved.
• 1:12:08
  SPEAKER_01: This has been proven to us, right?
• 1:12:10
  SPEAKER_01: Then you get second generation, which has seen their parent have, and the farther we get, there's a shift you based on human decision, based on human need for control.
• 1:12:22
  SPEAKER_01: From I know this is a fact, I know I'm unconditionally loved, I know this is a community of love, to you need to earn this.
• 1:12:29
  SPEAKER_01: And then you get people who step into the power, and then you as the generations go farther and farther out, it becomes so much of the structure of how it has been made has to do with keeping this thing that it started on, keeping this this notion, this idea and truth that you are unconditionally loved.
• 1:12:49
  SPEAKER_01: Love is all there is, and you know, we are all God's children, basically, it's the best human way to express that.
• 1:12:57
  SPEAKER_01: We are all the same, we are all connected, and it's been splintered because of human fear, you know.
• 1:13:05
  SPEAKER_01: And I think when you talk about control, too.
• 1:13:07
  SPEAKER_03: What if what if though?
• 1:13:08
  SPEAKER_03: Because this is what I've been looking at.
• 1:13:10
  SPEAKER_03: So sorry, Car.
• 1:13:11
  SPEAKER_03: Um I love that we're both ADHD and can interrupt each other without being.
• 1:13:15
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, yeah, for sure.
• 1:13:17
  SPEAKER_03: Um okay.
• 1:13:19
  SPEAKER_03: What if we are in a P tree dish of narcissism and um, I mean, with social media, right?
• 1:13:29
  SPEAKER_03: Like it is a P Tree dish just breeding more narcissism and kind of like the heavier what is beyond narcissism?
• 1:13:40
  SPEAKER_03: It begins with a P.
• 1:13:41
  SPEAKER_03: Um, it's like one step.
• 1:13:44
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah, it but it's one step worse than that.
• 1:13:47
  SPEAKER_03: Um it's just really, really heavy.
• 1:13:50
  SPEAKER_03: And when you really talk to people, I kept channeling through like 20% of the population is narcissistic.
• 1:13:57
  SPEAKER_03: And then I heard one of the best experts out there, Dr.
• 1:14:00
  SPEAKER_03: Romani, say, I think it's higher, I think it's around 20%.
• 1:14:04
  SPEAKER_03: Well, if you look at it, about 10% have, you know, the narcissism to the full degree, even beyond that.
• 1:14:14
  SPEAKER_03: And these are people who um kind of very hollow, like they don't know who they are.
• 1:14:23
  SPEAKER_03: And so they're searching for anyone and every anything to be like to find out who they are, but they don't know how to really channel, they don't know how to be themselves.
• 1:14:33
  SPEAKER_03: So they're just trying on everybody else's personality to try and be exactly like them, right?
• 1:14:40
  SPEAKER_03: But then on the opposite end of the spectrum, you have like 10 to 20 percent of very highly empathic people, authentic, original, and um, those are the two categories of people that really rise to the top, right?
• 1:14:56
  SPEAKER_03: And that might be the battle that we're seeing play out on every single stage and every category across the board is you have very highly empathic people, and then you have really, really people who do not have the best intentions out there.
• 1:15:15
  SPEAKER_01: Well, and in some ways you could express that as fear, self-fear, and self-love.
• 1:15:21
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, which is the ultimate, I mean, there is an opposite of love on earth because that's the experience we're having and we want to feel, right?
• 1:15:31
  SPEAKER_01: So that's why there's an opposite.
• 1:15:33
  SPEAKER_01: But on the other side, there is nothing but love.
• 1:15:36
  SPEAKER_01: And I think what you're talking about is it's why I love human design so much, is it helps people stop looking outside of themselves for who they are.
• 1:15:47
  SPEAKER_01: And that's different from identity, that's different from how you present.
• 1:15:51
  SPEAKER_01: That's different, it's what you're talking about.
• 1:15:53
  SPEAKER_01: I am safe with myself.
• 1:15:54
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 1:15:55
  SPEAKER_01: Because you are designed to feel very to feel the safety.
• 1:15:58
  SPEAKER_01: Like some people can say, I, I, you know, whatever is defined, however, your puzzle piece looks, it is about going inside.
• 1:16:05
  SPEAKER_01: And I think the people that you're talking about that are looking outside of themselves, maybe in terms of feedback when you're talking about social media, like the the what they get from likes and from you know engagement or whatever, it comes from fear of knowing self.
• 1:16:23
  SPEAKER_01: I think is what you know what I mean.
• 1:16:25
  SPEAKER_01: Like there's you are going completely outside of yourself to where it's almost not you, it's not you.
• 1:16:32
  SPEAKER_01: It's for sure, it's a a reflection of everybody around, like of the worst parts, basically, or of the parts that are not you.
• 1:16:41
  SPEAKER_01: And so here's this living, breathing representative of looking outside yourself for who you are, and that is causing havoc.
• 1:16:50
  SPEAKER_01: That's but it's a representation of fear.
• 1:16:53
  SPEAKER_03: Interesting.
• 1:16:55
  SPEAKER_03: Um, yeah, I just think it's an interesting way to look at it because instead of thinking that you're gonna go into one place or another and find safety and security, or like one person is gonna be your end all be all, or one teacher, you know, just anything, none of that's true.
• 1:17:14
  SPEAKER_03: Like um, you know, you just have um to look at yourself and say, Right, any person listening, you find the safety and security and being yourself, the only channel that you have that God gave you as a tool to help you connect.
• 1:17:31
  SPEAKER_01: The puzzle piece, like I call it a puzzle piece, and it's the same, we are all inextricably connected.
• 1:17:38
  SPEAKER_01: For yes, I think the search is search for belonging, which is a human thing, and it's human because God is saying it's human or the spirit is saying because it's human because you forget that you are all connected, and we all belong most when we are ourselves, and what is it's sort of flipped in humanity growing up.
• 1:18:00
  SPEAKER_01: We've been conditioned to believe we belong most when we are most like others, when we are most you know what I mean.
• 1:18:06
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, and so you change yourself to fit in, but actually you belong most, and the the most belonging you can actually feel on planet earth is in remembering that you are belong because of who you are, and then allowing that it's not even deep.
• 1:18:23
  SPEAKER_03: Nate Brian says it like when you are with other people, just trying to belong with them, you're trying to fit in, and that's the opposite of belonging.
• 1:18:31
  SPEAKER_03: No, a hundred percent.
• 1:18:33
  SPEAKER_03: You're spot on, you're spot on.
• 1:18:35
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, I love this, Carly.
• 1:18:37
  SPEAKER_03: I love this I love this too.
• 1:18:39
  SPEAKER_01: Oh my god, thank you for being here.
• 1:18:41
  SPEAKER_03: Oh, thank you.
• 1:18:42
  SPEAKER_01: You know, I love you so much.
• 1:18:44
  SPEAKER_03: I love you too.
• 1:18:45
  SPEAKER_03: You're so real, you're the most realist.
• 1:18:47
  SPEAKER_03: I'm so glad that you're starting this podcast because you tell you you need like if I could have a little Carly right next door to me all the time, I would.
• 1:18:56
  SPEAKER_03: You're just real and you know, you love so hard.
• 1:19:01
  SPEAKER_03: And um just like um, don't be scared, Carly, to go full seam ahead and you're gonna make mistakes and just show up and show your audience, like, hey, when I made mistakes, here it is, and keep moving forward because I think we are here to make mistakes that other people can see so that they can live more fearlessly as well.
• 1:19:25
  SPEAKER_01: That's the vulnerable part.
• 1:19:26
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, that's the vulnerable part.
• 1:19:28
  SPEAKER_03: The old idea of success.
• 1:19:31
  SPEAKER_03: What the fuck is success?
• 1:19:34
  SPEAKER_03: You know, last year I knew that before we went into L surgery, I needed to like have some fun because I knew it was gonna be like like a long time.
• 1:19:45
  SPEAKER_01: This is a heavy surgery, yeah, right.
• 1:19:47
  SPEAKER_03: Yes.
• 1:19:47
  SPEAKER_03: So we like wouldn't be able to go to Disney for a while.
• 1:19:50
  SPEAKER_03: So uh I was like, let's just go to Disney and we went over there and the most magical, like angelic thing happened.
• 1:19:56
  SPEAKER_03: We walked in, this guy came over and he worked for Disney and he said, I just feel the need to tell you.
• 1:20:03
  SPEAKER_03: And he like looked at Al and he just brought through like the most uplifting, loving messages for like five minutes.
• 1:20:11
  SPEAKER_03: And I I was like, God, that's what I want to be in my life.
• 1:20:15
  SPEAKER_03: Like that's and God goes, that's what you are, Julie.
• 1:20:18
  SPEAKER_03: Like you're a messenger, like that is what you do.
• 1:20:21
  SPEAKER_03: And I thought, you know, my definition of success, you know, I don't care.
• 1:20:27
  SPEAKER_03: I have had it all.
• 1:20:28
  SPEAKER_03: I have, I have had everything that I wanted to have in my entire life.
• 1:20:33
  SPEAKER_03: I've had it, I've done it.
• 1:20:35
  SPEAKER_03: And my definition of success is, you know what?
• 1:20:39
  SPEAKER_03: I don't really even care if we downsize one day and we have like a two-bedroom condo.
• 1:20:45
  SPEAKER_03: I just get to be a messenger.
• 1:20:47
  SPEAKER_03: I get to show people the energies I see around them, the angels I see around them, the love I see coming into their life, the hope the angels need them to have, the good things that are on their way to these folks.
• 1:21:02
  SPEAKER_03: And like that is the best job in the entire world.
• 1:21:06
  SPEAKER_03: It's fulfillment.
• 1:21:07
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it's satisfaction for you.
• 1:21:09
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 1:21:10
  SPEAKER_03: And I have my daughter around me, and I have close friendships and I have family, and I am like in the greatest moment of my entire life because I have so much abundance of like connection and just knowing myself in this moment, in this moment, and just loving life.
• 1:21:30
  SPEAKER_03: Like, could you imagine if we were just all on that path of just doing what we're here to do and how much fulfillment you feel?
• 1:21:39
  SPEAKER_03: This is success.
• 1:21:41
  SPEAKER_03: Like, I am in the game.
• 1:21:42
  SPEAKER_03: It's alignment.
• 1:21:43
  SPEAKER_01: Alignment is success for you.
• 1:21:45
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 1:21:46
  SPEAKER_01: And because alignment, that's what you were you were saying, that and I was like, oh, yeah.
• 1:21:50
  SPEAKER_01: So success for everybody feels like alignment, and because everybody is built differently, everybody's version of success is different.
• 1:21:59
  SPEAKER_04: Because do you know what I mean?
• 1:22:02
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, yes, of course, and we have convinced ourselves that one person's definition is is is greater than another, you know, and it's not, it's it's just being with being true to who you are.
• 1:22:15
  SPEAKER_03: You know who taught me that too is Jenna Kutcher.
• 1:22:19
  SPEAKER_03: She came on the podcast years ago, and we kept in contact a little bit afterwards, and I have just watched her, and every time I think when I see her, I think to myself, the most high-ranking influencer out there who follows her intuition and her angels more than any other person on this planet is that woman.
• 1:22:41
  SPEAKER_01: She knows she dropped her podcast.
• 1:22:44
  SPEAKER_01: I know, I know, because she didn't, and she's I mean anymore.
• 1:22:48
  SPEAKER_03: I know right.
• 1:22:49
  SPEAKER_01: Like, what a wonderful, and that's a lot of success in terms of you know, and I don't know her human design, but she like if you haven't looked up Jenna Kutra, I read her book.
• 1:23:00
  SPEAKER_01: I think she she you she was interviewed, and then I listened to her, but she had this beautiful podcast that was highly, highly successful.
• 1:23:07
  SPEAKER_01: And she's like, you know what, it's taking me from my family though, and that's not my definition of success, right?
• 1:23:13
  SPEAKER_01: What courage?
• 1:23:15
  SPEAKER_03: Yes, yes.
• 1:23:17
  SPEAKER_03: So you're right, success looks different to everyone, and we can always differently, yes, but the only success that really is is when you're living by the rook the rules and like the way that your vibration works and your energy.
• 1:23:33
  SPEAKER_03: Yes, because if you're not in that, you know, I think I think we toss around words like what is alignment, yeah.
• 1:23:41
  SPEAKER_01: Alignment is a is a big I actually like I try not to use it.
• 1:23:45
  SPEAKER_01: It's tuning into your own frequency, it's be I mean feeling free within yourself, right?
• 1:23:52
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, something that Spirit brought through in a reading I was in the other day, um, is like, and we just talked about this energy doesn't have a language, and alignment is the closest thing that we have come up with, but it is the same energy, it's like you have a certain frequency, and when you find that it unlocks like a flow, like you're on maybe two streamwise alignment feels different for different people because alignment.
• 1:24:21
  SPEAKER_03: Of course it does to me feels like this vast expansion.
• 1:24:25
  SPEAKER_03: Like I feel energy radiating, and I really think that your consciousness is so far out in your auric field that when my energy is just like a my heart is this miniature sun and it is just radiating out to everything, everywhere.
• 1:24:43
  SPEAKER_03: Um, that's when I feel in alignment.
• 1:24:45
  SPEAKER_03: That's when I feel the best and most myself.
• 1:24:48
  SPEAKER_03: So yeah.
• 1:24:49
  SPEAKER_04: Oh my God, promise I thank you.
• 1:24:53
  SPEAKER_04: Oh my god, yeah.
• 1:24:54
  SPEAKER_04: Amazing.
• 1:24:55
  SPEAKER_01: You're amazing.
• 1:24:56
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you so much.
• 1:24:57
  SPEAKER_01: I I always say that generators are like sons.
• 1:24:59
  SPEAKER_01: So that's a perfect note to end on.
• 1:25:01
  SPEAKER_01: So thank you.
• 1:25:03
  SPEAKER_01: I'm actually releasing this entire thing tomorrow.
• 1:25:05
  SPEAKER_01: So I'll let you know.
• 1:25:06
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I'm releasing it's an interesting release plan.
• 1:25:09
  SPEAKER_01: I'm releasing all of it.
• 1:25:10
  SPEAKER_01: And then Spirit was like, okay, and then you'll start in September.
• 1:25:13
  SPEAKER_01: So that's what's happened.
• 1:25:15
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, I didn't have any idea that was happening, but yes for being here.
• 1:25:19
  SPEAKER_03: Can you send Robert to meet too?
• 1:25:21
  SPEAKER_03: I'll put it on the podcast and tell everybody like where what is your podcast going to be called?
• 1:25:27
  SPEAKER_01: Human Design IRL.
• 1:25:29
  SPEAKER_03: Whoa, whoa.
• 1:25:29
  SPEAKER_03: All right, follow Carly over at Human Design RL.
• 1:25:33
  SPEAKER_03: IRL.
• 1:25:33
  SPEAKER_01: You're the best.
• 1:25:34
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you.
• 1:25:35
  SPEAKER_01: I love you.
• 1:25:36
  SPEAKER_03: I love you too.
• 1:25:37
  SPEAKER_01: Adding this post episode because I just realized I didn't give Julie the opportunity to just lay out where to find her, and you need to find her.
• 1:25:45
  SPEAKER_01: She's incredible.
• 1:25:45
  SPEAKER_01: Her website is www.theangelmedium.com.
• 1:25:50
  SPEAKER_01: You can find her Angel Ranking Mediumshift School.
• 1:25:52
  SPEAKER_01: That's where I learn to develop my gifts and um the angel membership, where I learn to connect with my highest self and talk to my angels.
• 1:26:01
  SPEAKER_01: She's got a book coming out next year, Angel Signs, June 15th, 2027.
• 1:26:07
  SPEAKER_01: So keep an eye out for that.
• 1:26:09
  SPEAKER_01: She's got another book, Angels and Awakening, that was really helpful for me.
• 1:26:14
  SPEAKER_01: That's also the name of her podcast.
• 1:26:15
  SPEAKER_01: She's got a great Instagram handle at Angel Podcast.
• 1:26:20
  SPEAKER_01: Go please find her, follow her.
• 1:26:22
  SPEAKER_01: She also, if you are lucky enough, gives personal readings, which are incredible.
• 1:26:27
  SPEAKER_01: And I can't recommend her enough.
• 1:26:31
  SPEAKER_01: So please go find her, follow her in all the places.
• 1:26:33
  SPEAKER_01: And Jules, thanks again for coming.
• 1:26:36
  SPEAKER_01: Julie Chances, theangelmedium.com.
• 1:26:39
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 1:26:39
  SPEAKER_01: Thanks, y'all.
• 1:26:43
  SPEAKER_01: Well, that was fun.
• 1:26:44
  SPEAKER_01: Thanks for being here.
• 1:26:45
  SPEAKER_01: If you find yourself wanting to be in the hot seat to know more about your design, to connect to your spirit team so you can feel grounded and confident in who you are.
• 1:26:55
  SPEAKER_01: Please feel free to check out my website, www.humandesignmedium.com backslash readings.
• 1:27:01
  SPEAKER_01: I've got programs, I've got plans, I've got a free design calculator, all yours to use when you visit.
• 1:27:07
  SPEAKER_01: Girl, you are unconditionally loved, supported, and cherished by spirit.
• 1:27:12
  SPEAKER_01: You are who and how you're meant to be.
• 1:27:15
  SPEAKER_01: I'm just here to help you see yourself more clearly.
• 1:27:19
  SPEAKER_01: How's that for a Midwestern goodbye?