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Ep. 417 "The New Black Body" with Dr Michael Jones and Marcia Dyson · TMI

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  Speaker 1: That's how we owned it. That's how we own it.
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  Speaker 1: What's up, Family, I'm your girl, Tamika D. Mallory. It's
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  Speaker 1: Shout out to everybody, Shout out to my man Katie
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  Speaker 1: Katie's birthdays after we actually today. He was also one
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  Speaker 1: of the people that, you know, a lot of times
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  Speaker 1: we'll be having brothers as brothers we have disagree you know,
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  Speaker 1: we have them, so sometimes we got to sit down
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  Speaker 1: at the table. But it takes other brothers and sisters
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  Speaker 1: that see what's happening and say, hey, the relationships are
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  Speaker 1: too valuable and you got to bring people together and
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  Speaker 1: make sure they have conversations. Shout out to bron Slogogo, bronlogo. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I love this sweater. Actually, it's like shout out to trade.
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  Speaker 1: Ain't you by NASA? Asshole? He said, whatever one you
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  Speaker 1: want to be asked whole by nature and Trade is
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  Speaker 1: doing amazing work. Got a hot wheels. Trade got a
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  Speaker 1: hot wheels. Did you see it? He got his own
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  Speaker 1: hot wheels with the slab, you know, the new Chevy
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  Speaker 1: with the spokes hanging out. Love the Trade guy everything.
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  Speaker 1: He should have it because he's in Louisiana, out there
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  Speaker 1: risking his life, trying to save people right now in
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  Speaker 1: the um in the with with Hurricane Ida, and there's
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  Speaker 1: another hurricane comment that people are bracing themselves for. And
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  Speaker 1: when I talked to Trade to the other day, the
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  Speaker 1: way he looked was like it was it just and
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  Speaker 1: Until Freedom is now trying to solicit um. We are
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  Speaker 1: soliciting truck drivers to pick up supplies in the state
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  Speaker 1: they live in and drive it down to Louisiana to
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  Speaker 1: meet Trade and the family at Relief Gang so that
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  Speaker 1: these UH supplies can be distributed. So if you have
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  Speaker 1: a truck, you need to email us at organizing at
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  Speaker 1: until Freedom dot com. You got a truck, you got
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  Speaker 1: an extra few days, We'll get the supplies in your
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  Speaker 1: in your area where you can pick them up and
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  Speaker 1: bring it down to Louisiana. So today's show is I'm
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  Speaker 1: super excited because you know got this belly, you know,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm you know, trying to consider exactly how well.
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  Speaker 1: First of all, I'm not two pound soaking with Okay,
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  Speaker 1: I'm not because I can remember a few months ago
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  Speaker 1: that I was talking to like you, and I think
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  Speaker 1: we were all on a call on on the zoom,
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  Speaker 1: you and Angelo and Linda and somebody else, and I
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  Speaker 1: was eating and it was like eleven something at night
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  Speaker 1: and you were like, yo, you can't really eat that
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  Speaker 1: at night, Like your face is fat, Like you really
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  Speaker 1: hurt my feelings when you said what you said, and
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  Speaker 1: it made no it wasn't a joke because it's true.
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  Speaker 1: It's true. But it's cool though. I think you know
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  Speaker 1: a little way you need a little weight. Yeah, that's
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  Speaker 1: what I'm saying. It's not like, yo, you're fat and sloppy.
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  Speaker 1: I'm just but you just stuff on your face at
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  Speaker 1: eleven twelve o'clock at night, it's just like my favorite
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  Speaker 1: time to eat. You gotta happen and I need a
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  Speaker 1: whole steak at twelve a m. You listen to me,
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  Speaker 1: women are so into vanity but don't want to do
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  Speaker 1: the things that's necessary. You want to let me go
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  Speaker 1: this nip tuck, let me do this. Well, how about
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  Speaker 1: not eating at twelve o'clock? I know I do. You know?
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  Speaker 1: How about some sit ups? How about this? I do
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  Speaker 1: that too, but I might just imagine it down so
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  Speaker 1: that and then I can have a start. Why don't
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  Speaker 1: you start? I know, I'm gonna see with Jennifer Williams,
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  Speaker 1: my friend, my dear sister, our friend who is a
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  Speaker 1: she's a workout expert. Okay, she's like yo six. They
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  Speaker 1: don't do working out, no more like that, just they
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  Speaker 1: just but you know, I think you can work out
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  Speaker 1: in Hey, it's a balance. But you know today today today,
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  Speaker 1: I might sometimes I do work out today. You don't
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  Speaker 1: know everything. I'm just trying to when you do it
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  Speaker 1: when I'm by myself. Yeah, people, sometimes I don't be
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  Speaker 1: with y'all. I got my own thing I do. I
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  Speaker 1: do work out, all right, thank you. And sometimes I
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  Speaker 1: lay in my bed and I do these things with
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  Speaker 1: my legs circular. I do that. I do a little
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  Speaker 1: bit of squats that my knees because of the marching.
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  Speaker 1: My knees have issues where the squatting. They're telling me
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  Speaker 1: I might not be able to do squatting as much.
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  Speaker 1: So I gotta find another way. I'm gonna figure it out.
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  Speaker 1: All I'm saying is that today there's a man who's
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  Speaker 1: joining us that might be able to flatten it down.
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  Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying. Listen, I appreciate him. He's he's dope,
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  Speaker 1: but you know, I hope he tells you how to
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  Speaker 1: start exercise. But before we get to our guests, we
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  Speaker 1: have some other things. And you know, because I'll be thinking.
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  Speaker 1: I was just thinking to myself, Governor Abbot, right in Texas, right,
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  Speaker 1: I saw you in a bunch of men, which thank
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  Speaker 1: you so much, who all posted this thing that said,
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  Speaker 1: um men should not be controlling women's bodies. And I
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  Speaker 1: think that is just so so so powerful that men
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  Speaker 1: are making that statement. But Governor Abbott, it's either either
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  Speaker 1: he hates women or he's just dumb. It's one of
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  Speaker 1: two things. It could be both, but you know, no,
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  Speaker 1: he's either either he hates women or he's just dumb.
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  Speaker 1: And the reason why I say that it is because
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  Speaker 1: this statement that he made where he says, I know
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  Speaker 1: what we're gonna do about the rapist. So this is
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  Speaker 1: after in Texas they put all of these provisions around
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  Speaker 1: women being able to get abortions, and in fact um
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  Speaker 1: and I guess the six weeks. You can't get an
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  Speaker 1: abortion after six weeks. But then I saw that the regulations,
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  Speaker 1: the people who actually regulated and reported are the citizens.
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  Speaker 1: So it's it's pitting you and me against one another.
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  Speaker 1: That if you believe I shouldn't get an abortion, or
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  Speaker 1: if you know you heard me say that I'm nine
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  Speaker 1: weeks and I'm going somewhere to get an abortion, or
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  Speaker 1: you learn about somebody who might be helping folks to
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  Speaker 1: go get you know, the proper care, that you can
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  Speaker 1: report me and then I can be fine ten thousand
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  Speaker 1: dollars and get in trouble, like, hold the hell, what
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  Speaker 1: are y'all talking about? It's so it's dangerous, it's ignorant,
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  Speaker 1: and it's and it's white because you need to get
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  Speaker 1: hit in your mouth and right talking people business. But anyway,
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  Speaker 1: and so it is it's very dangerous. And what they're
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  Speaker 1: doing isn't It isn't a It is a deliberate attempt
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  Speaker 1: to roll back Rovie Wade and take away women's rights
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  Speaker 1: to have abortions. And this has been something that we
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  Speaker 1: knew that Republicans specifically, we're going to be working on
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  Speaker 1: and that's why they wanted Kavanaugh to get his seat
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  Speaker 1: on the Supreme Court. Um, and that's what they're doing. Right.
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  Speaker 1: The Supreme Court is already agreeing, unfortunately, with this decision
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  Speaker 1: in Texas. So when the reporters asked Governor Abbott, he's
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  Speaker 1: dumb or he's crazy or something. When they asked this man,
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  Speaker 1: what are you gonna do about rapists, he responded, We're
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  Speaker 1: gonna arrest the rapists, basically, gonna put a bounty on
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  Speaker 1: the rapist's head. It so you're saying that after they rape,
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  Speaker 1: you'll arrest him. So forget about the fact, like at
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  Speaker 1: that point that I've been raped, I got a baby
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  Speaker 1: in my stomach that I don't want, don't need, too young, whatever,
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  Speaker 1: all the circumstances that's just attached to the trauma that
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  Speaker 1: I'm not even able to deal with. And so then
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  Speaker 1: I'm just supposed to get to have this baby while
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  Speaker 1: you arrest this rapist possibly. And by the way, the laws,
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  Speaker 1: just so you know, in a lot of ways do
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  Speaker 1: not really protect women the way that they should or protect,
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  Speaker 1: as you said, people who have been raped in general.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm trying to understand that he hate women or
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  Speaker 1: is he stupid? You think he's a little bit of both,
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  Speaker 1: a little bit of both. I just think to force
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  Speaker 1: someone to have a baby, you know, based on circumstances
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  Speaker 1: that are less than fortunate, that are legal, that that
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  Speaker 1: are traumatizing, you just can't do it. Just can't all
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  Speaker 1: of those things. I mean. But when we when you
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  Speaker 1: said the rape thing, that's just to me, it's just
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  Speaker 1: like sid bro, like, come on, it's not even funny.
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  Speaker 1: It's really just sad because the mind state. Listen, I'm
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  Speaker 1: trying to tell you, the mind state of a white
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  Speaker 1: supremacist is dangerous, you know what I'm saying? Like something
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  Speaker 1: I forgot. I think it was de l. Hugeley who
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  Speaker 1: said the worst place for a black person to live
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  Speaker 1: is in the mind of a white supremacis you know
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  Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And when you start really looking at
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  Speaker 1: these situations like it's so many, it's so deep. This
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  Speaker 1: situation is just so deep, it goes beyond that. It's
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  Speaker 1: a whole another show we can have. But just just
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  Speaker 1: the dynamics of him just saying we're just gonna arrest
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  Speaker 1: him and just not looking at what the question actually
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  Speaker 1: was saying. The question was like what do you want
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  Speaker 1: to do about the people rape these women? We still
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  Speaker 1: got that the baby. Bro he's talking about something that's
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  Speaker 1: not connected. It's not just arrest rapist. But we're saying
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  Speaker 1: that the woman who now has the baby in her stomach,
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  Speaker 1: who or or the or the fetus, the embryo, the embryo,
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  Speaker 1: the embryo, the embryo, right or The feat is you're
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  Speaker 1: now are carrying this thing, this life is life, and
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  Speaker 1: you are saying, I cannot I think, well, it's potential, Like, well,
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  Speaker 1: the point is that up until six weeks, what they're
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  Speaker 1: saying is that it's not a life up until six weeks.
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  Speaker 1: Then they're saying after six weeks it becomes a life.
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  Speaker 1: What I'm saying is I it's not in the earth
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  Speaker 1: in the world yet, and I can't think me right,
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  Speaker 1: so and then and then you know, I mean, I
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  Speaker 1: think about my own abortion story, and it's like, and
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  Speaker 1: there's so many women who are telling their stories. If
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  Speaker 1: I had a baby at the time that I was pregnant,
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  Speaker 1: and by the way, I was more than six weeks pregnant,
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  Speaker 1: and I had to have a two day proceed year
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  Speaker 1: where the first day they go in and they do
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  Speaker 1: something that basically makes you start contracting and then the
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  Speaker 1: next day they go in and take the baby. I
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  Speaker 1: had to go through that because I was too young
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  Speaker 1: to have a baby. First of all, I didn't even
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  Speaker 1: know I was pregnant, because I don't even know my body.
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  Speaker 1: For too long, I didn't know. I didn't know anything
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  Speaker 1: about being pregnant. Then when I figured out that I
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  Speaker 1: was pregnant, I was too scared to tell someone that
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  Speaker 1: I was that I was pregnant. I don't tell my
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  Speaker 1: mother that. So all of the decision making, trying to
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  Speaker 1: get my friends to help me find a place to go,
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  Speaker 1: and everything that I went through. It took me some time.
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  Speaker 1: And then, by the way, I wasn't putting that on
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  Speaker 1: my parents insurance policy because I didn't want them to know.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't know that at that time that they wouldn't know,
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  Speaker 1: but I thought they might have started to get the
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  Speaker 1: money together to go have an abortion. It was a
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  Speaker 1: lot of stuff that had to happen. I had. I
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  Speaker 1: needed time to get it together. And so you know,
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  Speaker 1: there are people with stories similar stories, and I just
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  Speaker 1: I don't And even if we do decide as women
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  Speaker 1: that we shouldn't be having abortions at a certain time,
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  Speaker 1: it should be our decision to make, and we should
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  Speaker 1: be having those conversations in conjunction with other women leaders
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  Speaker 1: and then deciding what is the best for what's the
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  Speaker 1: best for us, for our bodies, and of course keeping
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  Speaker 1: in mind that there is a father, there is a
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  Speaker 1: man who's involved that should be able to have some
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  Speaker 1: say so. But nonetheless, I, as a woman, have to
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  Speaker 1: be the one to bring life. And I just I'm
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  Speaker 1: just the thing that scares me is that then the
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  Speaker 1: idiot And excuse me, I don't know if I'm supposed
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  Speaker 1: to call people idiots, but I said it. But the
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  Speaker 1: other one that either hates women or is dumb and
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  Speaker 1: hates black people and hates poor people and hates everybody
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  Speaker 1: is governor the Santis in Florida. Now he's talking about,
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we're gonna look at the same type of
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  Speaker 1: thing here, and it's going to be everywhere. It's gonna
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  Speaker 1: be an Alabama, It's gonna be everywhere if we don't
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  Speaker 1: stop it. So it's a very very very serious and
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  Speaker 1: concerning thing. Um and and and and and it's scary
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  Speaker 1: as hell. And what's more scary is what women will
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  Speaker 1: do as an alternative because they ain't gonna have no baby.
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  Speaker 1: If they can't have a baby, that's a fact. We
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  Speaker 1: know that because we remember, yeah and watch the movie
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  Speaker 1: what is It? Precious? It's in there, you know what.
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  Speaker 1: I appreciate the fact that you let me on us
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  Speaker 1: on this show, have so many people that helped me
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  Speaker 1: think through my own life's choice. You know, you make
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  Speaker 1: a lot of decisions. I don't. I don't we make
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  Speaker 1: them together. I mean, don't try to act like you
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  Speaker 1: know we don't have them. But see the guests that
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  Speaker 1: we have today here with us. UM is going to
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  Speaker 1: talk about some stuff that engage involves men as well,
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  Speaker 1: not just us women in our class. It's about time.
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  Speaker 1: So I am so grateful to have Dr Michael Jones
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  Speaker 1: with us today. Now for you all who may not know,
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  Speaker 1: first of all, you've seen them on TV. Of course
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  Speaker 1: you have. We actually put up a post looking for
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  Speaker 1: some uh folks out there who may have had botched
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  Speaker 1: plastic surgery jobs, and people were like, well, I don't
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  Speaker 1: I didn't have that, But I know you need to
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  Speaker 1: have Michael Jones. You need to have Dr Jones because
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  Speaker 1: they've been watching you on TV. He is a celebrity.
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  Speaker 1: Um And you know, he probably doesn't want him to
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  Speaker 1: be called a celebrity, but he's a celebrity. The world
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  Speaker 1: renow the world renowned plastic surgeon to many of the
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  Speaker 1: stars across the country. There have been people who talk
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  Speaker 1: about the great work and service that they've had um
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  Speaker 1: with Dr Michael Jones. And he also specializes in ethnic
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  Speaker 1: care and and specifically key Lloyd's, which we're really really
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  Speaker 1: going to delve into today. Um My, A couple of
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  Speaker 1: my family members suffer with key Lloyd's and it's always
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  Speaker 1: been a conversation since we were small. People could not
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  Speaker 1: get piercings. M My sister actually never was able to
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  Speaker 1: pierce her ears, and there was always a concern that
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  Speaker 1: any nick you get it could turn into a Hi
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  Speaker 1: Lloyd because it's obviously a big stigma in our community.
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  Speaker 1: So we're really happy to have you here to talk
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  Speaker 1: about this stuff today, Dr Jones. I am really happy
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  Speaker 1: to be here. Thank you for having me on your show. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: welcome the street politicians and hearing all you guys talk
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  Speaker 1: me up that just I just feel great. Yeah no,
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  Speaker 1: but you I mean, you are who you are. We
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  Speaker 1: don't have to make it up. You had nine offices
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  Speaker 1: around the country, so your servicing people everywhere. Listen, we
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  Speaker 1: want to be where the people are, and not all
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  Speaker 1: of our patients can come to us here in New
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  Speaker 1: York City, so we reached out. We went to other
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  Speaker 1: cities where there is a high density of people of color.
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  Speaker 1: So we're also in New Jersey, We're also in the
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  Speaker 1: d C. Area. We're also in Atlanta, also in Florida, Miami, Houston,
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  Speaker 1: and l A. Now, but people act like they're not
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  Speaker 1: getting plastic surgery, like they're like, you know, no, these
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  Speaker 1: are my breast you know, well, you know, more and
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  Speaker 1: more people are being more open about it. It's it
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  Speaker 1: used to be taboo in our community. People were like,
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  Speaker 1: oh no, that's that's something that's not for us as
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  Speaker 1: people of color. It's more for those rich white people.
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  Speaker 1: But the reality is people have been black people have
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  Speaker 1: been having plastic surgery for years. It's just now starting
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  Speaker 1: to become more commonplace where we actually talk about it
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  Speaker 1: and we're okay sharing our experience. That makes sense, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: So two piggyback off of what Tomka just said, um
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  Speaker 1: as you being one of the people who talk about
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  Speaker 1: we have some males up here for a change, because
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: it always about what women are dealing with most of
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  Speaker 1: the time. You know, two questions I want to ask, First,
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  Speaker 1: is what made you get into plastic surgery? And then
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  Speaker 1: I want to also ask, like, how many men actually
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  Speaker 1: get plastic surgery? Alright, great questions. I went into plastic
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  Speaker 1: surgery because I love making people happy. And I started
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  Speaker 1: off doing oncology type of surgery. It's cancer surgery, and
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  Speaker 1: it was difficult for me because I like to get
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  Speaker 1: to know my patients. I like to get to know
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  Speaker 1: their families. And then I would spend eighteen twenty twenty
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  Speaker 1: four hours trying to remove their cancer and reconstruct their
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: their defects after we took the cancer out, and despite that,
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: many times those patients would die. And so then that
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: was really hard for me to handle. So I wanted
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: to change. I wanted to to pivot and take care
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: of patients that I could grow old with, people that
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: I can make a difference in their lives, people that
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: I could actually help restore their self confidence, their self esteem,
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: make them feel better about themselves, whether it's because of
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: a cosmetic issue or a reconstructive issue. And so that's
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: kind of why I went into what I do. Mhm.
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: So the men, now, as far as men brothers are
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: having plastic surgery, believe it, they are. We we have surgery.
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: The most common procedures for us are liposuction because we
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: we struggle to get rid of those love handles and
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: that little bit of fat down the lower abdomen. Bleft replasty,
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: the eyelids, the bags under the eyes, the bags over
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: the eyelids, that's very common for men. And then rhinoplastic
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: um is really one of the most common things for
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: men that no surgery, nose reshaping where we're actually you know,
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: helping to define the nose or refine it or get
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: rid of a defect or hump or bump or wide
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: nostrils or flat bridge. So men, okay, But the the
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: the narrative that's out there is that it's mainly gay
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: men who are having you know, surgery to make themselves
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: look more I guess feminine. I guess, you know, But
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: I don't know that that's true because I think that
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: is not the case. It is not the case. We
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: do have our share that are doing somewhere like licosuction
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: or Brazilian butt lifts for certain reasons. But that is
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: not the majority that we see. The majority are very
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: you know, confident, testosterone producing men. They really are are
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: are inclined to want to just look better. Well, yeah,
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: because there ain't These men ain't men. The first person
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: I've heard, it's only two people that I know that
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: um Kanye said that he got some surgery done, and
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: I know that funk Master Flex actually talked about it.
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: But it's not a lot of men who really say
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: that they're going on. I think it definitely is a stigma,
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: like men don't really want to talk about it, but
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: it's not something that is prevalent that actually know about.
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: So to hear you say this is like, well, so
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: all the men in the gym who are looking like
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: you know that they are all sexy. You're telling me
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: some of them have actually sucked it out, just like
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: a few of us, because I need to suck mine
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: out to tell you the truth. Listen, some of us,
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: some of us will. You know, you might be in
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: the gym, you're working out, but you still may need
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: a little help. You may not be able to see clearly.
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you this story. I'm not gonna tell
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: your name, but we had a Mr. Olympian and an
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: Olympian Mr. You know the guys who do the muscle
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: building contest. This guy won many of them. But every
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: time he prepared for a contest, he gave himself a
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: little steroids. So when he gave himself the steroids, he
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: would get a little pooch. He would get a little
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: bit of what called kind of comasteria where he gets
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: a little man boots. And he didn't like that and
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: it effected his competition. So we helped him by doing
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: a little micro liposuction, little mini liposuction in those areas
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: to get rid of those problem parts of his body.
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: But this was a big dude, so slim people like
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: me right because I'm little. Most people look at me
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: and they're like, there's nothing wrong with you. But there
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: is a pouch that is sitting out in my stomach
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: and it's so funny. We went to Fatio's birthday party
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: recently and I had on this really nice dress and
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: it was nice and fitted, and I was speaking and
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: I knew going out the door that I had the
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: conversation in the mirror, like, oh, this is really serious.
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: I knew it was growing. I've been seeing it. It's
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: it's not just pandemic weight, it's just weight period. And
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: I but when I finished talk, you know, speaking at
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: his event, the pictures went viral and many of them
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: came back to me with people who were my friends, like,
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: what's going on with your stomach? Are you pregnant? Because
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: my stomach is it's out. So people like me, do
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: they get liposection or they're too small? People like you
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: get liposection. Realistically, LiPo suction is for the young. It's
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: really shouldn't be done in people that are older because
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: as we get older, our skin allasts to see. That
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: spring to our skin decreases. So when you take the
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: fat out from behind the skin, if you are older,
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: it's not going to snap back. It's actually gonna want
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: to hang. So when you're younger and you have nice
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: spring to your skin, that's actually the ideal time to
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: take that fat out because it will lay flat and
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: you will look great. Well, I gotta ask one more
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: things we know is still it's still no. So let's
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: talk about breast and plants because obviously every it's a
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: big thing. Everybody, all my friends talk about it, and
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: many of them have done it, some fake like they haven't,
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: and we know others they are very honest and saying
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: that they have, and they're like they're out. The girls
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: are hanging. So I'm just so, do you do a
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: lot of breast implants? We do a lot of breasts,
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: to be honest with you, in our Black community, they're
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: not a lot of women that actually do the augmentations.
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: There are a lot of women that do the reductions
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: and do the lifts because they've had pregnancy, the breasts
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: have gotten and gorged with milk, and then the milk
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: dissipates and now the breast hang and they're sagging. So
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: we do a lot of breast lifts, a lot of
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: breast reductions, and more and more now we're starting to
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: see a lot of lifts with augmentation with the implants.
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: So we do a lot of those and how often?
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: So what are the risks? Because it is it? Health?
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: Is it? How healthy? Is what is the risk? Like?
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: You know, because a lot of I hear a lot
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: of women say I want to get this in this
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: and I'm like, well, and a lot of them. For
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: some reason. For me, I think it's become like a trend,
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: like it's become a train and a lot of women
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: who are saying they want to get it, I'd be like, wolly,
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: I don't really see the knee, you know, So what
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: what do you think the risk of versus reward? Like
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: most people happy afterwards, or that you're getting complains people
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: that I shouldn't have done it, Like what is well,
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: you know, that's a great question, and the reality is
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: why is someone presenting in the first place for it? Right,
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: So if you have if you're now a fourty year
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: old woman who back in her twenties had very perky breasts,
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: walked around and you were confident, and then you had
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: four children, and now your breasts aren't quite where they were.
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: Maybe now you're divorced. Maybe now you're a little depressed
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: because you're going back onto the dating scene. So we're
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: here to help that person feel self confidence again, to
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: be powerful again. And so there are risks. It is
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: not like going to the nail salon. It's not like
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: going to the hairdresser. There are real concerns, but the
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: rewards can be quite rewarding that self confidence, that empowerment
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: that we're helping them with. But the risk are they're
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: bleeding infection um, the fact that sometimes if if you're
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: working with an implant and it gets infected, the body
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: doesn't really then want it anymore. It tries to push
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: it out. That's called extrusion, where it tries to pop
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: the implant back out. And the most common thing that
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: happens with with breast implants is that sometimes the capsule
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: or the scar that forms around the implant, because the
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: body sees this as foreign. It knows it's not supposed
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: to be there, so it tries to wall it off
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: from the rest of your body, forms a capsule around it.
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: And in most people it's fine. The breast has nice
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: natural mobility and the capsule is nice and thin. But
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: in very rare instances, that capsule can start to thicken,
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: almost like forming a keyloid on the inside of the
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: body around the implant. When that happens, it starts squeezing
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: on the implant, the breast doesn't move as well, and
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: in the worst case scenarios, it can cause pain and
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: deformity to the breast, and then we have to go
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: in remove the implant, remove the capsule. Do you remove
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: it and put another one in, or it depends on
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: what the client wants, or is it Okay, so this
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: is my last question on this because I know I'm
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: I'm digging into it, but seriously, so it's it's fat grafting.
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: Do you think that's a better option for people who
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: might feel like I'm worried about that encapsulation issue. I
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: think it's an option for the right person, because some
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: people are a cups and they want to be d
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: R and you can't get there and you can't solved.
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: So you might get one cup size change with with
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: fat grafting, and or you have to do it multiple
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: times because you're putting it in, you expand the skin,
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: some wait several months or a year, then do it
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: again and you might get a bigger size. The nice
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: thing about fat grafting is that it is it is
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: your body's own tissue, so you don't have that same
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: those same issues with the body rejecting it, the same
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: issues with extrusion, the same issues with capsular contraction. But
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: on the other side, there's some people that believe that
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: by putting in the fact, it's less predictable result because
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: not all the facts going to survive, some of it's
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: gonna dissipate, some of that's going to resolve and may
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: not give you the ultimate results that you're looking for.
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: So I have a question, most people satisfied or do
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: you have more people who are like what is the ratio?
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: Because I look at Ky Michelle, She's like, it's the
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: worst thing. Michelle did too much. There's a lot of
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: people who you know that, there's a lot of people
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: that I look at that have done it and I
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: feel like they've done too much, and I don't know
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: if they're happy or not. So I just want to know,
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: what do you what are you hearing from the patients?
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: We would not be in business and if our patients
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: were unhappy. So the vast majority of our patients are happy.
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: That is the purpose of why we exist and to
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: make people happy. Were happy. But he brings up a
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: very good point. Too much can be too much, and
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: so very often in my day I am telling people
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: that know we I'm not comfortable giving you additional surgery
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: or giving you what you want for the next procedure,
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: because I do feel that as a doctor we have
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: to do no harm. And so there's a point where
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: more surgery leads to harm. When you look at Michael Jackson,
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: at some point he did too much and then he
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: lost the skin on his nose. Yeah, so BBLS is
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: sometimes doing a little bit too much, like not saying
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: just the BBL surgery, but I've seen people do too
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: much back there. Well, you know, there's there's this different
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: concept that people have a beauty and I'm trying to
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: say a really nice but you know, I'm not a
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: fan of that very ant look appearance. I like a
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: very natural but a nice heart shape or bubble bud
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: or you know, whatever you want to call it, but
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: a nice natural booty. But a lot of these women
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: are having multiple procedures. They're doing it to three times
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: to really get that expansion and the very odd expansion
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: around the hips, so they literally look like ants where
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: the mid section is very big and then the legs.
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: And I don't think that but ratio. It has to
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: work up, it has to work right, and that that
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: doesn't look good. It does, so you don't think that's
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: just a bad plastic surgeon. Now, that's the patient asking
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: as that's the concept of their in their head of
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: their beauty. So let's talk about scarring um because that
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: would be you know, and I assume that you work
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: on people who have key Lloyd's, which is a real
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: like we're learning that key Lloyd's is a real serious thing,
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: but what exactly is it? That's yeah, okay, good because
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: I was going to ask to people who get plastic
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: surgery not know that the keyloid. Is there a way
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: for you to know prior to surgery and then deal
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: with it? You know that that's a great question. Key
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: Lloyd's are really these tumorous growths of scar tissue. So
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: anytime you cut yourself, you have an incision, or you
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: just bump yourself on the table. If you're a keyloid former,
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: that little laceration, that little cut can evolve into a
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: scar tissue that grows outside the boundaries of that initial
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: incision or scar, and so it then starts growing into
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: other parts of your body and starts to take over
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: and trap hair follicles and lead to all kinds of
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: other issues. Would you know if you were a keyloid
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: former before you went to have plastic surgery, you might
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: not know. You may have gone your whole life never
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: had a keyloid before, and then you had cosmetic surgery
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: or or even a heart surgery or necessary purnious whatever
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: the surgery is and then you're you develop a keyloid.
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: And the keyloids are incredibly painful, they continue to grow, often,
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: they itch, They can be incredibly debilitating. They can keep
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: you up at night. They are a problem that up
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: to of people of color, people of color, Asians, Latins,
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: people of African descent will have. So there's a lot
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: of people in the world that are suffering from keyloids
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: of key Lloyd's right now. And you have worked on
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: some big, big, some of those keloids that I've seen.
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: I was like, wow, I didn't even know that we
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: work on. We work on some that are the size
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: of a peak, and we work on some that take
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: over the entire face, take over the entire back, and
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: it's horrible for these patients. We we had a gentleman
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: who came to us from Chicago area, um Keenan, who
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: was featured on our show, who he got his whole
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: church involved because he just didn't have insurance that would
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: cover his procedures. So he got his church involved to
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: give him a donation to travel all the way to
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: New York to have his surgery. And it we couldn't
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: do it in one surgery. It took years, years for
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: us to remove all of the key Lloyd's on his face.
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: He couldn't go out. He wore a towel around his
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: neck all the time because they were draining chronics while
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: they drain pus foul smelling discharge. We're coming out and
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: to me that insurance companies don't see this as being
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: like an issue that should be on the list of
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: things they cover. You know, it takes a lot of fighting.
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: We spend a lot of our time caring for our
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: patients and trying to convince the insurance companies that this
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: is a necessary procedure. Now, you imagine walking around with
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: a beard of key Lloyd's just hanging off of your face,
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: and you think that that is cosmetic. To remove that
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: is cosmetic. It's not cosmetic. It is a medical condition
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: that needs to be paid for by these insurance companies.
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: But the insurance company insurance companies know that the vast
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: majority of people that get this are brown people. There
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: are people, and so they don't want to pay for that.
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: Why what what is it some some genetic thing? It
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: is genetic, and that's and that is that is the point.
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: We don't know why it was formed. In my opinion
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: is that evolution somehow wanted to try to create stronger
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: scars because if you cut yourself, and before we had antibiotics,
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: if you cut yourself, you wanted that that cut to
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: heal and never open again. But oftentimes, you know, you've
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: seen a boxer who you know, every time it gets
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: in the ring, that one cut constantly is opening up.
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: So in the in an evolution, maybe we form that
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: stronger scar so that those cuts wouldn't open up, you
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: wouldn't get that infection, and you wouldn't die. So how
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: did you So did you have a patient that you
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: were doing plastic surgery on who got keyloids and then
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: you were like, oh, shoot, this is an issue. Or
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: do you just have people that showed up like can
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: you help me with this? When we first opened our doors,
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: we had people that just walked in and said, hey,
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: I've got a keiler. You know, the most common place
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: for a brother having a keyloid is in the back
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: of his neck, because you know, we shave our heads close.
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: The barber get a little too close. They go a
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: little too close. In this the hair follicles shrink below
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: the skin. As those hair follicles are growing back, or
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: the hair is growing back, it curls because we have
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: curly hair, it creates an ingrown hair, and that ingrown
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: hair creates inflammation that then leads to this big key
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: lloyd and so um, yeah, these those that's the most
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: common sight for men. And imagine trying to sleep on that.
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: Imagine trying to sleep on that every single night you
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: are sleeping on a rock. Wow, that can also be used,
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: I mean I would. So that's like an advocacy issue
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: for people especially, Like I said, I didn't know that
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: other people of color experienced key lloyd NG, but I've
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: seen for black women and again in my family, it's
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: an issue, and it's almost like you know, it's it's
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: like a it's like a it's like something where I
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: feel like my sister, at some point in her life,
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: she probably dealt with a little bit of insecurity, you know,
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: just because she has key Lloyd's or could not do
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: certain things, always had to have the clip on earrings.
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: But you know, of course now she's like, hey, it's
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: right here, she's you know, she's cool. But she always
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: said to me, are you sure you cut? Like let's
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: check it, Like it's a it's a worry, a concern
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: for everyone that you would get these key Lloyd's, But
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: I had no idea that people were getting them to
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: that extent. Wow, were you doing God's work. We're very
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: honored to be able to care for our patients because
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: the common theme amongst all of them is that they
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: don't know where to turn they have these We had
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: a patient yesterday who came from Buffalo said she went
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: to twenty practices in Buffalo, even went to the Cleveland clinic,
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: and no one wanted to treat her key lloyd. She
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: had a key Lloyd in the pubic area, so she
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: was incredibly self conscious. This thing was quite large in
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: their groin area, so she was very self conscious, didn't
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: want to be intimate any longer. And she was just depressed,
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: incredibly depressed, even contemplated suicide. And so she had nowhere
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: else to turn, no other practice. But we at Lexington
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: Play six certain are specializing in this disorder because we
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: know that there's it's an underserved community that is adversely
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: affected by it. Children too, children as well. How many
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: how many surgeries have you actually performed around I would
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: say as far as in my entire practice of been
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: practicing now for about twenty one years. I've probably done
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: over ten thousand, maybe fifteen thousand, actually fifteen thousand cases,
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: but we've done as a practice over ten thousand key Lloyds,
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: Key Lloyd, Keyloyd. You don't even know how all other
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: things you've done, but you know what you're You're so incredible.
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: And of course, um, the our director and strategists for
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: street politicians is your beautiful wife, Miss kat Lene, who
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: happens to be always over there, always Washington. Yeah, she
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: looks damn good. I asked you all today. Y'all are
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: working out like you guys are not even doing all
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: the body stuff actually, like what isn't so much? You're
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: going to yoga. I'm like, huh, I do a little
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: brotts though, you do? Yeah? You know. Yeah, my mom
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: had she had a stroke and her arm she's they're
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: trying to get it back and they use both tox
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: shots and the doctor he's so fine, this nice doctor.
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: He's like, you know, shoot, my mom, mom, and my
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: mom's like he's single. So my mom's like, you need
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: to go with me to to get my botox shots
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: so you can see the doctor because he likes you.
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: So we were like having maybe a marriage over both times.
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: But we didn't talk about people who go out of
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: the country and they get surgery and then you know
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: you're here about to cement all kinds of things, horror stories.
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: Why don't you tell, you know, our listeners and viewers today,
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: why that cheaper surgery out of the country might be
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: much more dangerous. You know, you're not You have no
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: idea what you're walking into. You may have had a
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: friend that has gone there and did okay, But what
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: happens when you go and things don't go okay? What
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: happens when you have an infection? Do you travel thousands
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: of miles back in a situation where you really shouldn't
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: even be on an airplane? You don't. And so it's yes,
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: you can get a lot of surgery done for very cheap,
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: but you may be getting operated on by someone who
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: is not a doctor. You don't know what's going to
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: happen in your recovery period. Are you going to have
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: a complication that needs to be addressed. Who had been
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: in the United States is now going to want to
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: take care of you. We've had lots of patients to
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: try to come to us, and sometimes we're able to
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: do things, and sometimes we say, you know what, it's
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: this is not something that we really want to to
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: delve into because we don't want to be further complicating
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: an issue. So it's it's a scary time. We have.
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: We've had patients that have gone away and come back
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: and said that they've had now sexually transmitted diseases, yet
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: they're not sexually active, So what's happening when they're asleep?
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: Who knows? It is incredibly dangerous. It's not something that
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: we advocate at all. And even in the United States,
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: we have a lot of these now chop shops opening up,
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: these high volume, low priced places to have surgery that
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: are often causing a lot of complications and causing a
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: bad reputation for a lot of what we do in
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: cosmetic and plastic surgery. Yeah, because it's gonna cost you
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: a few dollars to get Dr. John, but you get right.
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: So we're here in Park Avenue and we have we
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: have no black man on a Park Avenue. We have
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: we have the highest quality of care that we can
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: give to you. I want my facility to be able
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: to take care of my parents, and so we have
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: the best nursing care. We have the best post operative care,
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: we have the best surgical facilities at all costs. You know,
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: I wish my my employees would work for nothing, but
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: they don't. Now we want you to stay price exactly
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: as it is. And trust me, Kathleen and all her
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: projects that she works on, she needs you to keep
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: your price exactly as it is because we're one of
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: those projects that we're here begging every week. Cat please
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: please please thank you again. We appreciate you. All right,
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: So we have a friend friends to the show. We've
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: got a lot of great friends that do a lot
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: of great things every uh week. It seems like we
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: have someone that we really truly respect. And in this situation,
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: I hate to start off with or let me not say, hey,
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: I don't want to always start with introducing a woman
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: or man by talking about their spouse. But you know
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: that our big brother Dr Michael Eric Dyson, who's been
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: on this show and who is someone that um and
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: you know, I just I just love him down, we
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: both do. We've had debate conversations with Dr Dice and
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: but what people do not always know Most people know,
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: but some people don't know that the powerhouse that helps
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: Dr Dison to be who he is is his wife
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: Marcia Dyson, you know for sure. You know, the two
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: of them serve on so many different councils and panels
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: and in strategy rooms, UM, where people, you know, while
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: Dr Dyson is there and everybody knows it and they're like, yeah,
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: whatever you said. But they turned around, they're like, well,
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: what do you think Marcia? Because she's brilliant. UM. She
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: is both internationally and here nationally respected UM and a
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: renowned activist leader UM and a big sister to so
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: many of us that are younger activists who are just
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: sort of coming up. And I'll tell you the things
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: about the Dicens is they are the realest people ever.
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: Like they're not the types that are so they booge
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: you down the earth though, because they booge So let
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: me just give you a proper um introduction. Because you
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: do so much, uh. Marcia Dyson is the founder of
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: the Women's Global Institute, a member of United Justice Coalition
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: and Government and Public excuse me, and Government and Public
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: Committee member for the Coalition of Hope. You do so
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: much international work, UM. And on this episode today we
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: focused on and we've been focusing a lot on black health,
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: and obviously, uh, you know, plastic surgery is one of
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: those things that we talked with Dr Michael Jones about that,
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: and he talked about Key Lloyd's and all all of
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: those issues. But there's an international crisis happening at the
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: same time, and we have to make sure that we
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: keep our audience and our supporters and listeners aware of
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: things that we see on TV because we see it,
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: we hear it, but we don't understand at all what's
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: happening in Afghanistan and how it impacts us and how
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: it just impacts people in general in this country and abroad.
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: So dcor so, Miss Dyson, thank you so much for
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: being with us today. Let's talk Marcia about what's happening
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: in Afghanistan. First of all, I want to thank you,
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: my sweetheart, for having me on your show, and much
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: success to you and your co host and your whole team.
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: And as far as that bullgie down like I'm Chicago,
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: but I always say I can be good with this,
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: and I could be hood with this. It depends on
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: how you roll up on me. Is how I just
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: want to get that straight right. But you know what
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: I love about you, Tamica. We do work on social
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: justice work here in America, but my whole world is
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: my block, and when we look at Afghanist standard situation there,
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: it really has an impact on all of American citizenry.
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: I'm teaching, of course at Fisk University on global leadership
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: and culture diplomacy because I'm trying to tell the East
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: to boys scholars that no matter what your education, dreams
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: and aspirations might be, what your whatever your entrepreneur pursuits
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: might be, in the future, we have to look at
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: our foreign affairs like we do our domestic affairs and
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: our relationship affairs with our soul called lovers, because it
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: is an affair. So in an affairs, how you get
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: into it, but it's also how you get out of it,
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: because we know that if you leave a woman or
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: a man and they're kind of piste off at you,
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: they're gonna be some scorn somewhere. We have been in
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: Afghanistan more than the twenty years that most people believe
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: that has told to us. I remember all the way
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: back in the seventies having friends who were actually serving
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: in Afghanistan as black young men in that particular region,
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: and we get into that region because of American imperialism. Yes,
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: I have said the eye word under the auspices that
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: that we had to safeguard that area. But we have
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: to look at our global positioning in the relations ships
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: that we have with our country on a real tip.
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: If not, I'll be lying to you. But fast forward
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: going to these twenty years, it was also our engagement
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: was deeper because we were trying to recharge the investment
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: of the advancement or to stop or block the investment
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: of communism or Russia's influence in that region. Right, this
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: big great bear called Russia was the auspices into which
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: we maintain our prescationing there in Afghanistan. So now fast
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: forward ten years later and this administration's willingness to and
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: most Americans, especially the military, wanted to tire of that
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: particular region. The money that we poured into it, that
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: we could have put into our schools, into our justice,
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: social programs, right into our healthcare situations, that the waste.
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: But again, like I started, is how you in an affair, right,
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: give him somebody a certain amount of days in that
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: particular region. And I've worked all throughout the Middle East,
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: been on the conflict of the water Lebanon and Syria
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: during conflict, meeting with the Freedom Army, interacting with Livia
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: with Caduti Son on creating democratic socialist societies. I know
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: that time for them, it's not our same same time table.
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: So it's how we left it. And so when I
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: tell my students why it's important that you look at
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: your world and no foreign affairs, because not only are
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: the money spent impact your future because you're gonna pay
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: for that particular thing in your future taxes, right, but
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: how your future gonna be in your lively because right
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: now we left that country with an enemy who left
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: us with the kiss that said deaf to America. You know,
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: so we have the cript and blood things coming on,
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: and we put ourselves at a disadvantage. We extracted or
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: subtracted our troops out of a region and that now
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: we're back in that region on the peripheral at a disadvantage.
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: So if we're looking at its season, we put ourselves
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: at a disadvent and so now we're there, right. I
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: remember a conversation I had in two thousand eight was
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: Senator McCain on Afghanistan and what he was telling me
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: at that particular time because of my global interests and
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: because of my work with United Nations and in other
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: foreign UH groups around the world, right especially the Coalition
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: of Hope, which by the way is UH consortium of
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: active and retired military men around the world and women,
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: as well as global nonprofit organizations and global social activists.
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: Is that the reason why we have to know what
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: is going on in the world, because of how our
• 47:39
  Speaker 1: policies impact us in our future. One Afghanistan will be
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: the telling and I think the legacy that this administration
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: is going to leave behind with our our our our
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: our NATO pat right we're in now with NATO, but
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: we left them stranded because they're also situated to be
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: more vulnerable than we are. And we have to look
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: at that and disproportionately when we look at the first
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: young people, the first armed forces members that were killed,
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: they were children, mostly of color and under the age
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: of twenty four. Our children disproportionately enlisted military services to
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: be educated and have entrepreneur or career opportunities. So we
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: have a vested interests and as we serve this country.
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: But like again, what we have to say is why
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: we're there because so called Russian communism influence. But second,
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: how we get out Now what I want to say
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: about Coalition of Hope and the real reason and I'm
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: getting very passionate about this, and I really thank you
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: for having me on the show, is that we are
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: being vetted by the Department of Defense and the State
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: Department to actually go and to evacuate and rescue individuals
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: that we have left behind. I'm really proud to say
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: to Meka that we have rescued over eight hundred individuals
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: and have made safe over fifteen hundred in virtuals. Are
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: these American citizens? These are Americans, and there are allies.
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: And when you look at the women, the first we
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: call them hbt s in military terms, that's highly valued targets.
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: Anybody in the last twenty years who have befriended American citizenry,
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: who have allied themselves to the agenda of America in Afghanistan.
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: As Afghani's right, Afghans are highly valued targets. So it's
• 49:28
  Speaker 1: the women who were educated, the women pilots, some of
• 49:31
  Speaker 1: them I'm told have been killed. Right, It's the women
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: in music, It's the educators. Just this past week along
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: the women who had the protests were beaten and the
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: men who who photographed that protests were beaten and almost killed.
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: And that's what we left behind. We thought didn't think
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: about them. So it's not just our natal allies, it's
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: the people who have given their lives to make sure
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: that our spot in Afghanistan was safe. So we could
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: say that we left a three hundred thousand armed um
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: Afghan military, but we left billions of military. Now there's
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: gonna be used against us, right because we didn't think
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: about that. And even though you train someone, it's like
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: saying for any high school group, okay, and trained you,
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: so you're going off and you get your pH d. No,
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: you have to really look at what is lacking. And
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: that's not enough time. When you understand the region, when
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: you understand the people, when you understand tribalism, when you
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: understand the history fifty years long, it's just not about
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: afghan So also, we've made ourselves vulnerable to the big
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: giant countries who hate us. Russia and China. They were
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: the first two countries who basically sold in two or
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: recognized the Teleban as the regulated or the governance over Afghanistan.
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: We should be shaken in our boots, right when we
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: think about those three countries. So what I want to
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: inform people just in general, when we think about the women,
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: the children, the vulnerability. The Taliban said a few weeks ago,
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: women go to your houses, will deal with you later.
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: I know what that means. Right, It's more than just
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: covering up in a burke walk. Right, there's the lack
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: of education, the freedom of speech, being able to travel
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: without a male and sometimes even without So all I
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: want to say to you is the world is at
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: our door. I'm asking for Haiti. I know there's work there.
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: I'm doing work there. I know New Orleans and New
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: Jersey American citizens are under siege right now. But this
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: is American crisis that I want to expose to American
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: citizens from a very grassroot level, that we need to
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: be engaged wherever we can around the world. American citizen
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: re regardless of our ethnicity and race, sexual orientation, or
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: whatever the case may be, have always been the greatest
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: humanitarians around the heart. So I'm appealing to your listeners
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: appealing he definitely appealing to because for me listening to you, like,
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: I what about it? You know I've heard about Afghanistan
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: and taken. Now, you just brought up so many different
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: dynamics that that we should really be scared at this point,
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: like this ain't just you know, we left, Like basically
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: what you said is that we left, you know, them
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: under rule of people who actually don't like us, who
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: are going to utilize that territory, utilize all of those
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: things against us, And we left them, and we left
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: the people there with a bad taste in their mouth
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: against us, so they can utilize that against us as well.
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: And then we left some of our own people there
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: that are going to be a threat to us, that
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: is gonna be threats to them. So there's so many
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: different dynamics when I listened to this. So basically we
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: should have just never left, or we should have took
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: more time. How do you what do you think it
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: should have been a plant? Right? Well, let me go
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: back to that conversation which I forget about with Sinnator McCain.
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: He told me even then when I questioned about it,
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: because my concern was all of the block and minority
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: of poor white chill drink going over to these dangerous
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: areas fighting wars that we didn't start right, not really
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: knowing the hitting agendists for these particular interests or unders
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: mining in those particular areas. He said, yes, we we
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: stayed there too long. We the the love affair has
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: been too long. But anybody who would take us out
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: of that country is lying to us, or they're they're
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: not they're not wise, okay, because he was saying, because
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: when you make a mess, you have to make sure
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: that we have some housekeepers there and I'm paraphrasing him
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: to clean up the mess because it was so deeply
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: in trenched that we should never leave. He said, it
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: may not be over, but covertly we should always be there.
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: And the signals to the telebon was that, oh, overly,
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: we're out of here. As soon as they got that
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: was so right, they started their formation. It wasn't a
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: Beyonce formation, but it was a formation that is now
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: working against us and working against the allies that we
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: had within the country, those in the particular region around
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: round Afghanistan and our European partners, which we're now seeing
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: our separating themselves and saying that America has not protected us.
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: America has left even the European countries more vulnerable, and
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: they're on their own. So now are we are our
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: own if we don't have them. And that's the reason
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: why impact American citizenry are form affairs and foreign policies
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: supersede our domestic policies because they could be the ones
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: who take us out more than most American citizens understand
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: and recognized. And why I'm teaching that to my students
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: that they fully understand that we are global citizens. We
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: are governed not only by American regulations, but all these
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: foreign pacts, some known and some not known, that would
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: come back and bite us in our butt if they
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: have not probably been a reason to waftable. And I
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: was just gonna say, you know, we just are coming
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: out of uh, the remembrance of September eleven, that was
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: just a few days ago, and it makes me think
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: of exactly what you said, that we're now creating more vulnerabilities.
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: In fact, I think I was listening to UM. I
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: wasn't watching the TV, but I believe it was UH
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: one of the directors and the seat within the CIA
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: as they were preparing for Non eleven talking about the
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: concerns around not just terrorism across the borders, but domestic
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: terrorism that is UM instigated by external factors and so
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: listening to what you're saying, it sounds like these things
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: can be connected. Um and so it is definitely a concern.
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: And if nothing else, we should be educated, We should
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: know exactly we should be We should know. So what
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: can people do? Well? First, I would like for everybody
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: go to the CEO h Air Care Afghanistan on go
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: fund me and to make a contribution if you And
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: but also I'm advise you as I advise my students
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: and my friends. You know, I know, we like TikTok
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: and we like you know, the the versus and all
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: of that, but we really need to start reading our
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: foreign affairs policy. We really need to start looking at
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: not just the personality of our elected officials, but those
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: committees that they sit and start reading some of the
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: information that is that impacts our everyday life, based on
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: art form, our our foreign policies that are impacting us domestically,
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: because it also talks about how the money is flowing
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: and going. And remember that no matter what city you
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: live in, state or or whatever, no matter your sorority
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: of fraternity, we are in this together. We are on
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: this globe like a baseball floating into Earth and if
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: it gets hit and make a home run, you know
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: we're gonna fly off of this thing together. We are
• 56:51
  Speaker 1: on this Titanic together, So we need to know what
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: is on this ship. Who is the captain? Who are
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: the captains? Right, It's not just one person, It's not
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: just our p said that, it's a whole group of
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: leadership that impact our everyday life. So knowledge, like in
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: everything to make or what you do on the street,
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: you're not just doing it groping in the dark. You
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: are informed when you are activating your social activism, no
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: matter where it. Maybe I've seen you do it, but
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: I also know that you have made a game plan.
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: You are informed, you have a wise console, and that's
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: what we need to do. Knowledge above everything. So can
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: I just want to ask one more question? And I
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: know you gotta go, but I'm just because there's so
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: much information. Some people are saying that this deal was
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: signed by Trump before he left office to end to leave.
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: People are saying his but to withdraw the truth. So
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: how what was the process? Like, how did this come
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: about that we just left the truth? What was the process?
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: I think, first of all, you know, we have this
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: tendency to popularize and romanticize everything. Remember what the conversation
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: I told you I had with sen it to a
• 58:00
  Speaker 1: can to two thousand and eight. It's not personality driven.
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: It's campaign written right. Everybody make their campaign promises and
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: everybody want to scratch it off or erase it like
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: on the talk About board, as if that ends at all.
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: And sometimes you can't. Some things are in permanent marker
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: and you just can't do it that easily. So I
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: won't say that it was just Trump. I did hear
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: him saying how he was gonna extrapolate the people immediately,
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: and again that would have been wrong. What we need
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: is not these key cliches, not these sound bites. This
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: is when we need to inform information and to do
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: things right. And this is another thing I'm gonna say.
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: The reason why I look what you guys are doing
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: with your podcast because I know that you're the truth.
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: We need our journalists to be able to have the information.
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: And I told my students, if Colin Powell was given
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: the wrong information about the weapons of mass destruction, what
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: in the hell you think you're getting right? This and
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: this information and half truths will only get us half
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: asked results. And it and and danger, which means that
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: we're all burden. I told me we're in this urgency
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: of now that we're all burton to really try to
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: get depth into the truth and we don't can't no
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: offense to anybody. And I coined the term T E
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: L E band the tele band versus the teleban, right
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: the TV band TV sad. If you're getting stuff and
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: you're reading off a teleprompter, nor offense to anybody. I
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: want to say this that you're getting information that you
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: haven't been able to research yourself and get it for
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: more than one agency. Then your spewing and choose yourself.
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: Like Michael always says, you invoked him to beginning. He
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: likes to uh phrase. The theologian Howard Therma says, you
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: can take your cup to the Atlantic Ocean, fill it
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: with the Atlantic ocean, but it's not all the Atlantic Ocean.
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: This time and age more than any time of my
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: eight decades living because I celebrate myself left birthday, because
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: right queen. But this worriedness of the soul is crocking.
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: But that's okay. I got the future of my hope
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: and young women like Tamika and you to make sure
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: that my golden years are not lying continuously with the
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: tears that I shared over the misinformation of the lack
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: of information that young people are given because mostly technology.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: One thing I told my students if there's also if
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: you're doing your research on the infinite finiteness of Google,
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: you have not done your the infinite finite on that.
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: Listen and the infinite and finiteness of Google. And that's
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: why you can tell doctor and perfect doctor, I can
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: just sit there and listen to your talk all day.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: I'm telling you, y'all, you have such a way of words,
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: but you have the words because you have the knowledge, um.
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: And you have the knowledge because you've done the work.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: And so I just want to thank you publicly, as
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: I always say, for being a friend a big sister
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: to so many of us, um, without judging us, and
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: just being there, standing firm and you know, you are
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: such a real one. And so what you're educating us
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: on in Afghanistan. You know I've been saying this quote
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: almost every week on our show that at one point
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: Dick Gregory said that you know, we as activists and leaders,
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: you put on a pair of glasses and now you
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: see the things that are not just what other people
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: want you to see, but you know what is and
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: then you have a responsibility to do something with it.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: And that's a big burden. But now that you've given
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: us the burden, we certainly want to carry the message.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: And I thank you so much for educating us on
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: this crisis that's happening and they're talking about it and
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: some people are paying attention, but our communities don't pay
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: attention enough, and so we want to make sure that
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: we get this info out there. Thank you so much.
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: Adding me, I want you guys to come to Fisk
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: University to we love to wed love to love you much.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: Thank you God. Probably so man Marcia dis First of all,
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 1: she's super smart. Like some stuff she was talking about,
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to Quali back and be like break
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: that down. She is phenomenal and she's a beautiful woman.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: No way, no way on guards black is different, is different,
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: and she but she takes care of herself as well.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: Her husband's dope. Man. Just listening to her, like I
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: get meserized just watching her, and then I'd be like,
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: oh that's okay, I see right, Because they're both so
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: brilliant but you know the thing about it, um and
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: I noticed is totally off the topic. But when I say,
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: like he takes care of her as well, and he does.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: Definitely that's his wife. You see them all the time together.
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: But she's so engaged in her own stuff. She's got
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: her own LFE like she's not sitting around. In fact,
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: she helps him and then goes about her business. She's
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: not sitting around waiting on him at all to help
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: her feel like she's achieving. Right, She's an overachiever. She's teaching, speaking, organizing,
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: sitting on boards, doing things and just being so active
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: all the time. And that for me is such it's
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: it's such mentorship about women, women in relationships and just
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: women in relationship with yourself that you really do have
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: to keep yourself going and not ever allow Um, you know,
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: other people in spaces to make you because I've seen
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: her leave spaces and go create some other dope stuff
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: like people want Marcia Dison. It's not the other way around,
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: dope man. Just listening to her, Man once again shout
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: out to her and information that she gave us about Afghanistan.
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: She broke it down. So now I really paying attention,
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: like before us always left aghanderstands messed up and you're here.
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: But when you listen to her break now the consequences
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: you know, abroad and right now inside of America and
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: all those things is really serious, which rings me to
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: my I don't get it. You know our brother RV. Roland,
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: you know who's definitely one of our you gotta have.
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: He just got a new job. He's working with um
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: Utah Jazz, you know, so shout out to Earth. But
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 1: this is what he's now with this Earth. I know
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 1: that he's a trainer's training for Utah Jazz right now,
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: so shout out to him for that. But this is
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: something that he's really been passionate. But one of his brothers,
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: you know, Julius Jones, not his somebody that he grew
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: up with, he played ball with, who was also a
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: basketball player. You know that he he sees as a brother.
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: Julius Jones is being it's on death row right, you know.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: And and based off all things, information that somebody has
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: came forward to admit to the crime that he's been
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: convicted of. There's a lack of DNA, he was only nineteen,
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: he has an alibi. All of these things and he's
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: been sitting on death row for twenty years, not giving
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: a new heroing, not giving anything. And I just really
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 1: don't get how things like that happen. How do you
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: make a decision to take someone's life to end, you know,
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: especially in this day and name, when DNA is clearing
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: people and all, we're finding out every day that people
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: are being convicted of crimes that they shouldn't be. You know,
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: some people that people are being overly sent and shout
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: out to Dante mitche who just came home a couple
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: of days ago. You know, what you're saying is that
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: people are being um over sentenced over scientists. So when
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: you look at these situations and now this man is
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: scheduled to be executed in less than a month next month, Yeah, yeah,
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: I thought for some reason, yes, next month, this man
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: is scheduled to be I really just don't get how
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: a good conscious, good faith in the name of justice,
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: that you ex acute someone who did a crime supposedly
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: that you there there is so many different elements that
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: says there's a possibility that there's the slightest possibility that
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: he didn't commit this crown and you're scheduled to take
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: this man's life. You know, you you haven't said, you
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: know what we want to were gonna give you life,
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: a prisondent, give you an opportunity evidence if we give
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 1: these you know, hearings and things, because there there is
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: a possibility that this man is actually innocent, you know,
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: and they're about to take this man's life. But I
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: really just don't get that for the life of me.
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: You know, death penalty is one of those things that's
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: very very strange to me, you know, especially when there's
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: not clear and undoubted evidence that somebody did something that
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: is even worth being put to death for. If you
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: can't completely there, if there's any shadow of a doubt
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: that the person committed these crimes and you're taking their life,
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: it's just inhumane for me, you know. So I really
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: just don't get it, and I don't even know how
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: to say it. Man, We're going to continue to advocate
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: for him, you know, write letters for him. Go to
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 1: my page. You know, she'll probably see the post where
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: we just said about Julius Jones. For some reason, I
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: thought it was three months. I didn't realize it the
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: month it's literally next month, literally October, oh, because the first, Yeah,
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: I know why because the first this the other post
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: that we put up was two months ago and it
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: was coming in three months, and then today we're talking
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: about it now being a month while and you know
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: the thing about and I'm sure I know Julius Jones
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: has family. Obviously we support his family, but I feel like,
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: for he's been fighting so hard. I mean, they did,
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: um the long Walk, which was I forget how many miles,
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 1: things like over a hundred miles in protests of this execution. Um,
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 1: they've been trying to bring awareness through every every every
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: every you know, pers sin and every avenue possible to
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: bring attention to this situation and stop the execution. And UM,
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: I think that I feel worried that if it happens,
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: that earth will never be the same, you know that mentally,
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: he'll never be the same because he's really fighting for
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: a man and speaking to Julius and listening to you know,
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: somebody that's on death row. Uh that what is the
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: movie that um happens in the town that my mother
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: is from? Oh boy? Uh, Jamie Fox plays the man
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: on on death row, Mercy Mercy. So that movie takes
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: place in a in a town called Monroe, VL, Alabama,
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: which you know, Um, that's the town that my mother
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: was raised in, a town that I actually was raised
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 1: in every summer and so mercy, uh. And there are
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: other stories to kill a mock and bird. All of
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: that is from this particular town. And UM, this man, uh, Jimmy,
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 1: who's on death row, we watch his story and the
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: story of others who are in those cells next to
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 1: him that are about to be executed, most of them
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: for things that, as you said, maybe they should receive
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 1: life in prison. But for someone to believe that they
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 1: are the executioner, that their God to take their lives,
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: I don't know. And you know, I've had to ask myself,
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: especially with Teri's dad being murdered, you know what I
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 1: have supported the death penalty, And my honest answer is no,
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: I don't support the death penalty at all, Um, no
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: matter how heinous the crime. Maybe I just don't support
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: the death penalty. And that's tough because if somebody raped
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: my daughter or something like that, I don't know, like
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: at that point I might have to revisit how I feel.
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: But understanding what I know about this system, well, I'm
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 1: just saying I don't have First of all, my son
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: is twenty two at this point. I hope he doesn't.
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: I just wonder if I had a child right now,
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: hopefully I would have a dought it was as a person.
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: But I get your point because and so daughters the
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: same with you do something to myself. That's right, daughter's son.
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: That doesn't matter. So you know, I just think about it,
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 1: that happened, where how would my my opinion change? And
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: yet I still have to say I don't support the
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 1: death penalty. So you know, our prayers to Julius Jones
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 1: and his family, um and these days before possible execution.
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 1: And it's just like I'm Shaun King is also advocating
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 1: for a man who's on death row. It just seems
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 1: like this is such a terrible It's something I really
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 1: looked every day we see where you know the system
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 1: has failed and made mistakes. And when you know that
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 1: the system is as flawed as our system is, when
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 1: you're senting someone to death, you know, knowing that there's
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: a possibility that they could they could be wrong, you know,
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 1: it's just to me, well, we've we've got to have
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: we've been doing black health and we should continue to
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: get back to that, but I think next week we
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 1: should be talking to Dante, Dante Mitchell, do we Julius,
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 1: we should probably we should do that, but we should
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 1: also have like Joe take eat our sister who was
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: at the a CP for years. That's what she did,
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 1: abolishing the death penalty. Um, she did a lot of
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 1: work there. So I think those are good shows for
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: us to focus on. So hey, team, we've got a
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 1: bunch of shows already playing. So um. That brings us
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 1: to the end of this show that we covered a lot.
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 1: We went from one end of the spectrum to the net.
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 1: It's never never a dull moment. Shout out Tomorrow, Sea Dyson, Dr.
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 1: Michael Jones, Michael Jones, you know, don't get too much.
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 1: But we don't like it. Just I'm trying to tell you,
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 1: don't get six. But if you've got six butts in
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 1: one leg, we don't like it. It's not appealing. We
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 1: don't think it's cute. We're not sexy. It looks stupid.
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 1: It's not really a good thing. So if you're doing
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 1: it for you, cool, But no man is a factor
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 1: to a woman who has six that's a that's a
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 1: bold faced line. It is absolutely, because there's a meme
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 1: that's going around right now, and I'm not saying that
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  Speaker 1: the meme says, I spent my whole life trying to
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  Speaker 1: is h you using the professional world the holes you
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