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172. [South Carolina] The Murder of Briana Rabon · Bless This Mess: A Southern True Crime Podcast

• 0:20
  Speaker 1: Hey, everyone, welcome to Blessed this mess in the True
• 0:22
  Speaker 1: Grum podcast. I don't care who was do sa Hayestu.
• 0:24
  Speaker 1: All right, we are back this week and we are
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  Speaker 1: going to South Carolina?
• 0:29
  Speaker 2: Are we now?
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  Speaker 1: Yes, we apologize. We know we're always apologizing. What happened
• 0:35
  Speaker 1: was last week. We so update for for the whole
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  Speaker 1: base Camp Tlingua thing.
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  Speaker 2: We are not murdered.
• 0:43
  Speaker 1: We are not murdered. We did go there last week,
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  Speaker 1: so that's why we did. We we're gonna We were
• 0:48
  Speaker 1: trying to get an episode out before we left, but
• 0:50
  Speaker 1: it just didn't happen. We had the winter storm here.
• 0:54
  Speaker 1: It was like the kids were all sick. I was sick. Anyways,
• 0:59
  Speaker 1: it just didn't happen. And then when we got home
• 1:02
  Speaker 1: we were going to try to record Saturday Sunday sometime.
• 1:06
  Speaker 1: But Saturday and we got home like I was like done,
• 1:09
  Speaker 1: I couldn't function anymore. And then Sunday we children did
• 1:14
  Speaker 1: not want to cooperate. Last night, well Sunday we were
• 1:17
  Speaker 1: supposed to record in the afternoon. However, right before we
• 1:20
  Speaker 1: left we had the leaking garbage disposals. We couldn't use
• 1:23
  Speaker 1: our kitchen sink until stew changed out the garbage disposal.
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  Speaker 1: So he did that when the time we were supposed
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  Speaker 1: to record, because that was like we had to get
• 1:32
  Speaker 1: that done because the dishes were piling up.
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  Speaker 2: I mean we probably put a bucket down there and
• 1:39
  Speaker 2: all kinds of other stuff, but that would.
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  Speaker 1: Have set me off into another dimension stew I couldn't
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  Speaker 1: handle that kind of chaaloe.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, because I can't change the disposal during a wake
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  Speaker 2: while you're not here.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, because it was like several took him forever anyways,
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  Speaker 1: and so they were like, okay, well we'll record when
• 1:55
  Speaker 1: the kids go to sleep, because they got to be
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  Speaker 1: tired because we've been we were at this Turlingua thing,
• 2:00
  Speaker 1: big band, all this stuff. Anyways, Well, they would not
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  Speaker 1: go to sleep, so the baby had to come in
• 2:07
  Speaker 1: there with us, and then she had to be rocked
• 2:08
  Speaker 1: to sleep, and then she still going on. She was
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  Speaker 1: having but she also has she just gave up her
• 2:13
  Speaker 1: pacifiers because she's been she was chewing holes in them.
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  Speaker 1: So while we were gone on our camping glamping thing Interlingua,
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  Speaker 1: she chewed up her passy the last one and so
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  Speaker 1: it's just not safe for her to have them, so
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  Speaker 1: we had to throw it out so she's she's having
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  Speaker 1: a hard time I think getting herself to sleep or
• 2:31
  Speaker 1: comforting herself as she goes back to sleep because she's
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  Speaker 1: not allowed. She's we're done with the passes.
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  Speaker 2: Yes her life at eleven o'clock last night and continued
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  Speaker 2: on until about twelve twelve thirty this morning.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so I go to I was unaware of this
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  Speaker 1: cose I went to bed anyways. So yeah, so we apologize.
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  Speaker 1: You know what, guys, you know one time we took
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  Speaker 1: off for two years, so if we miss them here
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  Speaker 1: and there, just be thankful. It's not for longer. Let's
• 3:00
  Speaker 1: just say it.
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  Speaker 2: And we did say we'll see you next time. Yep,
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  Speaker 2: and a half years later we did.
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  Speaker 1: We did. We didn't just completely disappear anyway. So we
• 3:09
  Speaker 1: will have a shoot the poo this Friday. We're going
• 3:11
  Speaker 1: to recap our whole trip, but just to update because
• 3:13
  Speaker 1: I know there were some questions about the base camp
• 3:16
  Speaker 1: Turling because I did my whole rant and then I
• 3:18
  Speaker 1: kind of let you guys hanging. They went back sketchy
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  Speaker 1: a couple more times, and then finally they they never can't.
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  Speaker 1: I think we had mentioned it that we were concerned
• 3:27
  Speaker 1: because they never I never got a cancelation for that
• 3:30
  Speaker 1: thing because I thought they we thought maybe they would
• 3:32
  Speaker 1: just try to say we were no shows. I don't
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  Speaker 1: think they were expecting their automated system to send me
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  Speaker 1: an email with instructions and stuff on how to get there,
• 3:40
  Speaker 1: because it's like all self checking. And so I had
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  Speaker 1: emailed them. I said, are you kidding me right now?
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  Speaker 1: I said, you canceled this on me? And they're like,
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  Speaker 1: you never responded to that confirmation and to cancel, So, yes,
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  Speaker 1: your reservation is still going. I said, I have several
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  Speaker 1: emails of you saying you canceled on me. I actually
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  Speaker 1: never canceled this second time that they rebooked us in
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  Speaker 1: that cheaper pod or whatever dome, And so they canceled
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  Speaker 1: on me because I asked about the extra six hundred dollars.
• 4:09
  Speaker 1: I'm like, where's the six hundred dollars? So she I
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  Speaker 1: sent her screenshots of the them saying that they were
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  Speaker 1: going to cancel my reservation multiple times, and I said,
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  Speaker 1: I'm done with this. I said, I'm going to contact
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  Speaker 1: the state because that's all I could do at this point,
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  Speaker 1: was like to file a complaint.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, file a complain with Secretary State.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I didn't hear from them for about an hour
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  Speaker 1: because she was rapidly emailing back initially when she thought
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  Speaker 1: she was gonna get me a and so she emails
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  Speaker 1: me back an hour later with a bunch of dates
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  Speaker 1: I could pick. Well, the only ones we could do
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  Speaker 1: was the one coming up here at the end of January,
• 4:41
  Speaker 1: and so we went for We had to delay going
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  Speaker 1: there one day, but we did go. Nobody tried to
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  Speaker 1: murder us, nobody tried to bother us, so we made up.
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  Speaker 1: I do not recommend booking through them, though, because this
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  Speaker 1: process was sketchy. The dome there, you'll see on reviews
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  Speaker 1: it is true, like the dome was scratched, so it's
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  Speaker 1: not as clear as like the pictures and stuff. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: it was a cool experience and everything like that, but
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  Speaker 1: if we were to go back, I would book a
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  Speaker 1: like a one of those casitos or something like that,
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  Speaker 1: and I would book through a different one. Because apparently
• 5:13
  Speaker 1: the owner of this base camp tre Lingua has some
• 5:17
  Speaker 1: legal issues involving stuff stuff. I'm not gonna say it,
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  Speaker 1: because he's like sue Happy. He like sued the girl,
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  Speaker 1: one of the girls that made a claim against him
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  Speaker 1: and he lost though, but you can look it up.
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  Speaker 1: So I think their bookings have gone down in like
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  Speaker 1: the prices, because I think that when we were there,
• 5:36
  Speaker 1: we didn't really see anybody.
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  Speaker 2: There was one couple that was another bubble down the road, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: but I didn't see any of the tenths being news no.
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  Speaker 1: So, and this is a popular time of the year
• 5:46
  Speaker 1: because you have to go when it's cold because you
• 5:49
  Speaker 1: can't go in the heat, like the bubbles heat up
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  Speaker 1: like the air conditioners even to even while we went
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  Speaker 1: like during the day, like you had to be out
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  Speaker 1: of there about like nine am when the sun started
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  Speaker 1: coming in because the bubble just start getting hot and
• 6:01
  Speaker 1: you're like, we gotta get out here. So anyways, but
• 6:03
  Speaker 1: we'll do a we'll do a full recap on the
• 6:06
  Speaker 1: Shoot the Poop, but we wanted to update everybody because
• 6:08
  Speaker 1: some people have complained that we don't that they do
• 6:10
  Speaker 1: miss our chit chat and updates, so I know, so
• 6:16
  Speaker 1: we might start doing just a little bit on this
• 6:19
  Speaker 1: one and then more of the of the in depth
• 6:21
  Speaker 1: stuff on Shoot the Pooh so with Karen stu So,
• 6:27
  Speaker 1: because on those we do ram I mean we ramble
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  Speaker 1: like guys, like I'm talking like it's like a forty
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  Speaker 1: five minute episode of US, just a stream of consciousness
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  Speaker 1: coming out, and we can't do that on this podcast. Nobody.
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  Speaker 1: People are gonna get upset.
• 6:39
  Speaker 2: They're here to hear like we've seen it in the reviews.
• 6:42
  Speaker 1: Yes, like people up you know they talk so anyway,
• 6:47
  Speaker 1: So that's the update. We used our credit. We will
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  Speaker 1: never use them again. There's other if you want to
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  Speaker 1: go stay out there, there's other options. I would go
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  Speaker 1: and choose a different company. And that's all I'm going
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  Speaker 1: to say. So the guy doesn't like I think he
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  Speaker 1: was already in enough trouble. So when I started emailing
• 7:06
  Speaker 1: about the state, I feel like they were like, oh
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  Speaker 1: my god, we can't have another debacle.
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  Speaker 2: You can't have another agency.
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  Speaker 1: It was sketchy what they were doing though, Like that
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  Speaker 1: was totally sketchy. I never saw. I didn't see any
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  Speaker 1: real damage with the bubble, and they said they couldn't
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  Speaker 1: get it fixed for weeks and then all of a sudden,
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  Speaker 1: here the bubble we were supposed to be in.
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  Speaker 2: Is it was raculous?
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  Speaker 1: Yes, it was fair.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, if you would have got a part for it,
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  Speaker 2: maybe you could have got a clear top so we
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  Speaker 2: could have seen the stars.
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  Speaker 1: But if you read some of the recent reviews from people,
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  Speaker 1: it's all the things they say are accurate. But it
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  Speaker 1: was nice. I mean, it was fun. The kids had
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  Speaker 1: a good time.
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  Speaker 2: Kids loved it. It was great. Private.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, yes, it was private because there is a difference
• 7:45
  Speaker 1: between as you could see from the other bubbles that
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  Speaker 1: were a little ways away from us, there's a difference
• 7:49
  Speaker 1: between the deluxe and the regular bubbles. There's a reason
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  Speaker 1: you pay for deluxe, and I paid the extra money
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  Speaker 1: because of the four walls and to keep the kids contained.
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  Speaker 2: The other ones were private to because there ain't nobody
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  Speaker 2: out there.
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  Speaker 1: No, but they had an opening wall stew where they
• 8:03
  Speaker 1: can just run off the cliff. I know. But I
• 8:06
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• 8:08
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• 10:03
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• 10:33
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• 10:37
  Speaker 2: Left me with the kids, left the mess that she made.
• 10:40
  Speaker 1: Yes, I didn't care about anything in.
• 10:42
  Speaker 2: The yep, I had to continue to unpack.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, So anyways, but I'm here right now for
• 10:49
  Speaker 1: the moment, So let's get into it.
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  Speaker 2: Let's do it.
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  Speaker 1: This is our case out of South Carolina. Now, on
• 10:56
  Speaker 1: February twenty six, twenty fourteen, around two thirty in the
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  Speaker 1: afternoon and Elgin, South Carolina, nine on one received a
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  Speaker 1: call about some kids that found a body on a
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  Speaker 1: deserted road.
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  Speaker 2: That's crazy.
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  Speaker 1: Some kids finely, like young kids like ten years old.
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  Speaker 1: It was behind a subdivision, but it's like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: like the undeveloped parts. So they were probably in the
• 11:15
  Speaker 1: subdivision and then go back and see the the unfinished
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  Speaker 1: part back there.
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  Speaker 2: All right.
• 11:21
  Speaker 1: We are recording this during the day, so we had
• 11:22
  Speaker 1: a slight interruption. So if it sounded like I drifted
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  Speaker 1: off and I didn't know what I was saying, I
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  Speaker 1: can't go back.
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  Speaker 2: You know, child walked in, that's the.
• 11:31
  Speaker 1: Child walked in. We gotta we gotta move forward, all right.
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  Speaker 1: So investigators they head out to the scene and they
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  Speaker 1: are horrified to find a young woman who had clearly
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  Speaker 1: been murdered and left out on this you know, this
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  Speaker 1: back road, this deserted area. Like I said, it wasn't
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  Speaker 1: too far from civilization, but it was just because they
• 11:47
  Speaker 1: were as a subdivision nearby, but it's like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: they're developing.
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  Speaker 2: We had some kids in the neighborhood. They were out
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  Speaker 2: by my mom's house, out there, out there fishing in
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  Speaker 2: that when you cross the bridge and then you got
• 12:01
  Speaker 2: across the other second little bridge.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm aware, nobody else is though, but yes, well
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  Speaker 1: they found a they were out there fish and they
• 12:09
  Speaker 1: found a dead prostitute in the water. Stewart. Oh my god.
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  Speaker 2: Anyways, speaking of kids fining bodies, that.
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  Speaker 1: Was what was it part of a serial killer or what? No?
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  Speaker 2: I think it was just uh, I don't remember. I'd
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  Speaker 2: have to look at the news stories.
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  Speaker 1: Oh that's great.
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  Speaker 2: I mean I was like a fourteen or fifteen and
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  Speaker 2: a half, I think.
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  Speaker 1: All right. So it was clear by the position and
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  Speaker 1: state of the body that the young woman had been
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  Speaker 1: the victim of a sexual assault that ended in a murder.
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  Speaker 1: She was found lying face down, partially nude, covered in
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  Speaker 1: a towel. Now, she had bruising and scratch marks all
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  Speaker 1: over her, as if she had been fighting back. Now,
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  Speaker 1: upon looking at the evidence around her, they knew she
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  Speaker 1: was a recent graduate from a local high school based
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  Speaker 1: on her class ring on her finger, putting her around
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  Speaker 1: eighteen years of age. Now around they were various items
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  Speaker 1: from her purse that appeared to have just been dumped out.
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  Speaker 1: There were clear also clear footprints that they could pick
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  Speaker 1: up where the killer had stepped. Now, another odd piece
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  Speaker 1: of evidence found around the body was a ripped iPhone
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  Speaker 1: charging cord like had been pulled in half. And there
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  Speaker 1: was a lot of debris found around her, like someone
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  Speaker 1: had just kind of dumped a bunch of stuff out
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  Speaker 1: on top of her and just left, which is weird
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  Speaker 1: because most people you would.
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  Speaker 2: Just I don't know, take the bag and look the right.
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  Speaker 1: Well, no, just like not leave a bunch of stuff
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  Speaker 1: that she could have possibly had touched. Yeah, Anyways, they
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  Speaker 1: also found a piece of chewed up gum near her,
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  Speaker 1: but they did not believe it was she was the
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  Speaker 1: one that was chewing the gum. Based on where it was,
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  Speaker 1: they believed that whoever did this possibly was the person
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  Speaker 1: chewing that gum. Now, another big clue at the crime
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  Speaker 1: scene was these tire prints. Now there was only one set,
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  Speaker 1: so they do believe that this was the vehicle that
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  Speaker 1: disposed of her. They don't believe like two vehicles out
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  Speaker 1: there or anything like that, because her vehicle wasn't found
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  Speaker 1: around the area. It was just these one set of
• 14:05
  Speaker 1: tire tracks. Now, what was unique about the tire tracks
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  Speaker 1: is there were four different tires on that vehicle.
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  Speaker 2: And there, buddy, you got to go to the used
• 14:17
  Speaker 2: tire store you broke. You can't go down to Sam's
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  Speaker 2: get a brand new set.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, like, so this is like almost like a
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  Speaker 1: fingerprint here. If you've got four random tires on your car, like,
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  Speaker 1: this is like a big thing that they can go
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  Speaker 1: and if they can find the car and they.
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  Speaker 2: Can don't change the tires before they catch you.
• 14:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, long as they don't change their.
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  Speaker 2: Tires, That's what I just said.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you're seeing.
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  Speaker 2: It said, as long as they don't change their tires
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  Speaker 2: before they catch them.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. Anyways, so that's fine, that's what you said. Okay, okay, okay. Now,
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  Speaker 1: as they are looking through the contents on the ground,
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  Speaker 1: they they also do finally find a driver's license and
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  Speaker 1: are able to identify her identify her as eighteen year
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  Speaker 1: old Brianna Rabin.
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  Speaker 2: As investigators continue to investigate this surrounding area and the
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  Speaker 2: medical examiner is looking at the body, they find that
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  Speaker 2: the attack was even more brutal than they originally thought.
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  Speaker 2: Brianna was bleeding from her mouth and her nose. They
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  Speaker 2: were able to collect evidence from underneath her fingernails, as
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  Speaker 2: well as finding seamen on her back. The official cause
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  Speaker 2: of death was asphyxiation via strangulation. They believed that it
• 15:30
  Speaker 2: was either a belt that was lying there or a
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  Speaker 2: Most likely, they thought it might be that broken iPhone
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  Speaker 2: charger that the person had pulled so hard strangulating strangling
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  Speaker 2: her that it had broken half will investigators were going
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  Speaker 2: through the crime scene. While they were going through the
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: crime scene, Brianna's family had been looking for her. They
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  Speaker 2: knew that she had not shown up for work and
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: they had not heard from her, And then they started
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: hearing rumors around town that a body had been found.
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: Because this is a small town, Elgin South Care.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, can you, I mean, I can't even imagine finding
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  Speaker 2: out that way. I mean, the I mean, can you
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  Speaker 2: just the panic starts creeping in that you haven't heard
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: from your daughter, and then they're like, yeah, we found
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: a body out there. So they they contact police themselves
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: and discover that, you know, their worst fears have come
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: to fruition that it is Burana. Her family was in
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: complete shock about how this could happen to her. She
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: was they said that she was just your typical teenager.
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: She worked at a restaurant, dreamed of being a teacher,
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: and that she loved being around children, especially her two nephews.
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: So for this to happen to her, they it's just
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: not something that you would want to think about or
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: would think about.
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: On Yeah, there's I know nobody likes to talk about
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: like activities that can put yourself at like in situations
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: and stuff like that. But if she wasn't, she wasn't
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: go She wasn't hanging around like bad people or anything
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: like that, like or anything like that. She was just
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: your noise.
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: She wasn't walking into affic Yes she was. You wouldn't
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: expect her to get a hit by a car.
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: No, she was not want to be like, oh yeah,
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: she's always in and out of trouble. She was around drugs,
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: she was around none of that. She didn't do any
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: of that, not partying, things like that. She just was
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: not that any of those things before everybody gets in
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: a tizzy. Not that any of those things would justify
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: you be murdered. I'm just saying, if you happened that
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: something could happen. Unfortunately, So she just did not live
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: a lifestyle where you would she would put herself in
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: a situations to be around dangerous people, and by people
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: we mean men.
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: Wait what yes?
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: All right, So they still not had not located Brianna's car,
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: so they put a bolo out for that and it
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: found it at a nearby waffle house. Now, they had
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: some hope that they had caught the killer of on
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: some valance camera right there, because there was a surveillance
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: camera at the waffle house. However, they did find a
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: girl that's similar to walking in with a guy, but
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: it ended up being a dead end and the camera
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: never actually caught her going into the waffle house or
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: anything like that, So it seemed like she just parked
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: her car or someone parked her car at the waffle
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: house and they never actually went inside because the camera
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: wasn't pointing at her car. The peak what happened was
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: there was a girl looked like her with the guy
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: walked into the waffle house, but then it wasn't her.
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: But her car was not parked in front of the camera.
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so that they couldn't see exactly where who she
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: went or what yeah, or somebody else. Yeah. So the
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: next break they got was finding her cell phone. It
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: was an iPhone and it was about one hundred feet
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: from the crime scene because this was a wooded area
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: from around so whoever it was like through the phone
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: and so they had to After looking all around, they
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: finally found it. However, it was locked and they couldn't
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: access it, so they had to ship it off to
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: Apple to see if they could get into it for them,
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: but you know how.
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: Apple is, they don't want to be breaking into bounds.
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: Now, they begin to talk to friends and family to
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: see if they can get a timeline of when the
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: last time Brianna was seen. Now they find out that
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: she stopped off at Texas Broadhouse, which is where she
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: worked at She was able to gather her tip money
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: around noon that day, and this was all confirmed via
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: security footage. They see her walking in, she goes up front,
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: gets her tip money, and then leaves. Cause I'm guessing,
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: like Texas wrote, I've been a waitress before, but everywhere
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: I worked was a smaller establishment. I'm assuming like they
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: tip out at the end of the night, like they
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: collecked all the tips and maybe tip split or something
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: like that.
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I've heard of that where the waitresses
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: all split evenly of their tips.
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: I don't like that, why because I made really good tips,
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: because I was because all.
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: The other because all the other waitresses were working hard.
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: No, because all of them sucked at their job. And
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: then be like I was like older and like hung
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: over most of the time, not looking cute or anything
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: like that. I was just like this. I was in
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: school full time for like engineering, I was tired everything
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: that looked like shit. I'd come in, I'd make so
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: much more money than the rest of them. And then
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: these cute little like beep popping around. They're cute little
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: got their makeup all done, and I think they were
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: always surprised that I made more than them. It's like,
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: because at some point, somebody doesn't care if you're cute
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: if you don't refill their drinks and get their or right.
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: So yeah, that's kind of important. So anyway, so no,
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: I would not want to do that because I made
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: really good tips with some people there did not because
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: they weren't attentive to the tables. So anyway, so she goes,
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: she collects her money from the restaurants. She then headed
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: over to her best friend's house to have lunch, and
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: she stayed there a few hours now it was I
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: think it was the best friend's brother then showed up
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: to help her install a car radio. You know, this
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: is twenty fourteen, so it was one of those car
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: radis with the actual like I think she had the
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: CD player. Remember they always like lit up.
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you gotta get the little face plate detaches because
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: so they people get stick.
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: Yes, so I think he sold her one of those,
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: and so he was going over to help her install
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: this radio. They spent a little while trying to figure
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: out how to do that, but whenever he couldn't get
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: it installed, she started to call around to see if
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: anybody else around could help her, friends or anything like that.
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: Wants her brand new radio she just bought.
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember whenever I got one of those installed
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: in my car, it was like wow, and it would
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: do like the vault like the sound thing would have
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: like a fancy like the bars. Yeah.
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: Investigators have to go through multiple people to find out
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: when the last time Brianna was heard from. This is
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: due to the fact that Apple said that it would
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: take months to recover her text messages if they could
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: recover them at all.
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: I think they were just telling them that they're like,
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: we're not going to get they didn't want to fall
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: on say we're not going to go get Remember I
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: remember there was that terrorist over there in California and
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: they wouldn't get into their thing and they're like no,
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: and the whole country was like seriously and they're like no, No.
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: I understand what they're saying, though, It's like they can't
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: they can't turn to people breaking into that stuff. It's
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: like the ancestry thing or like the twenty threes and
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: means and stuff. They're like, we can't if we start
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: letting law enforcement get into these.
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: Systems fishing around and there whenever that we will.
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: Lose our entire business. So I understand Apple's stance. It
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: sucks for the people that trying to when you're trying
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: to solve with these but that's their their stance.
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So Apples, I guess they're either lying to them
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: or they haven't gotten to the point where they're.
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: Like they're probably just like yeah, they're probably just like
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: just tell them, it'll take a long time.
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: Maybe maybe they'll go away.
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: Maybe they'll go away or figure it out themselves.
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: So police start doing it the old fashioned way by
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: doing police work. They do this by talking to Brianna's
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: friends and looking at when they were texting with her
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: back and forth. The last time, the key time that
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: they want to look at is between five thirty PM
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: when she left her friend savannahs and seven forty four
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: pm was the last time they could find a text
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: message from Brianna. They did find three different people that
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: Brianna had spoken to that evening or met up with. However,
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: all of their alibis did check out and they just
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: appeared to be people that she went to try and
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: get help from to get this radio installed.
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so they continue to scour the town to see
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: if they can come up with any other surveillance video
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: that catches Brianna in her vehicle. Well, they got lucky
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: at around seven thirty pm at a gas station next
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: to the waffle house, they pick up Brianna's vehicle and
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: see her getting in another vehicle leaving. However, it's pretty
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: far off in the distance because again the car was
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: parked at the waffle house and this is the gas station.
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: So I mean even today, like you still don't have
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: great cameras. This was twenty fourteen. It's your basic surveillance
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: camera if you can imagine it's blurry. They could tell
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: that it was a like a dark colored sedan is
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: what they could tell. But they couldn't get any type
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: of license played or anything like that. And they also
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: really couldn't tell who the person was driving the car.
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: All they knew is that Brianna got into that car. Anyways,
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: they did have the text to her friends during that
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: time that she when she was in the car, because
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: it was remember they had till seven forty four pm,
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: liss is around seven thirty that they picked up. So
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: she's texting a friend while she's in the car, and
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: she never once said I'm scared. Helped me. Like, she
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: had access to her phone while she's in this car,
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: So she was clear to them that she would knew
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: the person. She was comfortable with them, because otherwise, if
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: she had access to her phone and someone had was
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: making her uncomfortable something, she would have been texting her
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: friends saying, I'm.
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: In this car with this weirdo.
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm I'm uncomfortable yeah, or someone like forced me
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: into this car or something like that. So they did
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: feel like it was someone that she knew. Now after
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: finding out this information about the dark colored sedan that
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: Brianna got into that night, they go back and talk
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: to one of the friends whose house she was at
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: last trying to get the radio installed. So then because
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: before whenever it was two brothers that she went to
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: go see to help get the radio installed. So at
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: the time, like they had the alibi, Well, whenever they
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: talked to this kid again, he adds that an X
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: some little bit of extra information that's really really important
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: that there was actually a third person there that night
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: and his name was Stephen Kelly. Now, Stephen was a
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: twenty one year old who had been in and out
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: of trouble. Now, Brianna did know Stephen, mainly she knew
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: his girlfriend, so she would have been comfortable around him.
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: She would have met him in the same friend circles.
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: She was at her friend's house with him, so that
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: kind of checks out that this could possibly be the
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: person that she was with. Now, the friend stated that
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: when Brianna left around seven fifteen that night, that Stephen
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: left shortly after, but he said he didn't know where
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: they were going. So the police they do show him
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: the vehicle that Brianna got into, and the friend was like, yeah,
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: that kind of looks like Steven's car. It's a dark
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: colored Sedan, that's what he has.
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: Investigators drive by Steven's home and see that he does
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: have a dark blue Chevy and Pala that looks like
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: the car on the surveillance video. They were also able
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: to find a home with security footage showing the Impala
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: driving towards the crime scene. They felt very comfortable that
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: Stephen was most likely the last person with Brianna, but
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: now they have to go and confront him and ask
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: him about Brianna's disappearance. They show up at his house
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: they start talking to him, asking him if he would
• 26:28
  Speaker 2: mind coming down so they can talk to him about
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: her disappearance and murder. While standing there looking at him,
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: they did notice that he had quite a few scratch
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: marks on his arms, as if he'd been in some
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: sort of struggle or fight. They bring Stephen into interview
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: him and he does says that he was at the
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: house where Brianna had been, but he was not there
• 26:47
  Speaker 2: at the same time as her. However, police have several
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: witnesses stating that he had interacted with Brianna there and
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: tried to install her car radio, including the two friends
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: that were there plus the of the two friends.
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: This person is not very brake. They're not dealing with
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: a sophisticated criminal based on like, I mean, who drives
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: the vehicle with the four tires into the crime scene?
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: Like this is not smart? This is twenty fourteen.
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, fortunately for law enforcement and cold case unit,
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: this guy was really stupid.
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: Yes he was. I'm gonna just say, this is a
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: stupid criminal. Like we get some we get some conniving ones,
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: we get some they get lucky, but then we also
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: get some like stupid ones, and this one is a
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: stupid one.
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: Yes, he's he's trying to get himself caught because now
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: he's caught in a lie. And he finally admits that
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: he did leave at about the same time as Brianna,
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: and that he arrived at his home at about eight.
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: They do confront him with the video from the gas station,
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: where they say where they see Brianna getting into his car.
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: He tries to deny that she was in his car.
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: He quickly tried to change that story and say that
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: he did pick up Brianna, but only gave her a
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: ride back to the.
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: Friend's house, which makes no sense why she would drop
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: her car off at the waffle house and he just
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: picks her up and takes her back to the two
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: friend friend's house.
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, Yeah, it's like we're not going to catch
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: that lie. Yeah.
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he just keeps lying and then they completely they
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: confronted him with actual evidence and then he's like, oh, actually, yeah,
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: I forgot I did pick her up. I just took
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: her back to the house though, So.
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: Now I got him in another lie that he took
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: him took her back to the friend's house. And they
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: did end up confronting him with the video surveillance of
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: his car driving toward the crime scene, saying that he
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: had trapped himself pretty much in his own webel eyes.
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: Stephen finally requests an attorney.
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: Yep. So, as Stephen was being interviewed, they had taken
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: his car into process to see if there was any
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: evidence of Brianna being in the car or connecting him
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: to the crime scene at all. This is when those
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: four different tires and the tracks of the crime scene
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: came back matching. And so this is again like it's
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: like a fingerprint, Like you're not gonna have four random
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: tires that are in the same place. Yeah, it's like
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: this is not this is very unique to his vehicle. Now,
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: they were also able to match his shoes to the
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: shoe prints found at the crime scene. And then finally
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: that last straw was a DNA sample did connect him
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: to the crime scene. So like this is they have
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: tons of evidence against this guy.
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: If they let this sound bitch play out for so
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: they didn't have to go to trial, I'm going to
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: be upset they did.
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: Anyways, investigators believe what happened was that or anyway, So
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: they have all this evidence, they are able to arrest
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: Stephen and charge him with her murder and rape. Now,
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: investigators believe what happened was she got in the car
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: with him thinking he was just another friend, Like he
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: offered to help her with this radio or whatever or
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: something like that, and then so she went with him
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: to get tools like some He used some story like hey,
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: I can help you with this or whatever, and she
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: felt comfortable enough around him that she did willingly get
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: in the car. However, they believe he probably made some
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: sort of advances at her and she didn't feel the
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: same way, and that's when he attacked her and then
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: drove her out to this remote location and strangled her
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: and raped her.
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: With all the evidence that piled up against old Stephen Kelly,
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: he decided to plead guilty to the rape and murder
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: of Brionna. He was sentenced to fifty years in prison,
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: and her family, as you might imagine, was extremely upset
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: about the sentencing because they wanted him to get life
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: without parole, even though but this fifty year sentence he
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: got him would put him in jail until he was
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: seventy two.
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: Yes, hopefully he dies before.
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: Then, thankfully, Kara for all involved. In February of twenty
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: twenty two, Stephen was found dead in his cell. The
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: only information that was found about this is that he
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: was being treated for cat COVID and in autopsy would
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: be performed.
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: That's all I could find. That's however, when Stu's acting
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: like he's.
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: I couldn't find anything about the outcome.
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: Way, there was something sketchy going on, because hopefully it
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: was like prison justice got the business end it because
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: the family was extremely upset that he did not get
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: life in prison. Why the judge would only give him
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: fifty years and not give him life in prison is
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: beyond me. Anyways, he would have got he probably would
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: have died in prison anyways, but he probably would have
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: lived a lot longer however. Yeah, they all the jail
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: records said was prison or dies. All they knew was
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: he was being treated for COVID and they were going
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: to do an autopsy. I started high and low. I
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: could not find any follow up on this autopsy, so
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: I doubt he died from COVID. This was what year
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: was it, twenty.
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: Twenty two two?
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we were past not saying past everybody. I'm sure
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: someone out there had someone dying forgot. We weren't in
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: the don't up. I know, we weren't in the twenty
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty one time frame, you know, where the especially
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: vulnerable populations were passing from COVID. This was twenty twenty two.
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: I think the deaths had gone down quite a bit.
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: Like twenty twenty two, COVID was more like a cold,
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: I feel like for most people. So he was young,
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: so I feel like something happened and they just were like,
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: we'll do an autopsy and then they were like COVID yep,
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: and then they just kind of let it be a
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: COVID type death.
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, a lot less paperwork than you got a
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: present murder. Then you got to investigate who murdered him.
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: Then you got to bring that person to trial for murder.
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: Remember during COVID, people would die from other things, and
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: they would but if they had COVID. So I remember
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: there was one he died in a car crash and
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: like it was a death and it was.
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: Just because he was getting money. They were getting federal
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: money for COVID.
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there was a lot of looks. In hindsight, COVID
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: was very sketchy. Not saying it wasn't a very dangerous
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: thing for a lot of vulnerable populations and things like that,
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: but it was. There was a lot of fraud involved
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: because there was a lot of government anytime there's government money,
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: there is fraud, rampant fraud.
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: So ware to get my hands on some of that
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: government money myself.
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: We are thankful for COVID for taking out this guy,
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: whether COVID did it or COVID was used as a
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: cover for prison justice, prison justice, So for her family
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: that he he got what was coming to him.
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: So maybe somebody put some money in somebody's commissary.
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: Maybe we don't know that got.
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: Some extra ramen noodles that week yep.
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: Anyways, so that is our case out of South Carolina. STU,
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: do you have your y'all need you? You should have one,
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: because I sent you one this morning.
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: I was gonna say, yes, some lady something he won
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: this morning.
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: Yes, I heard one of those when I got in
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: the car this morning. It was like the like it
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: was on the radio stage. I guess you were drove
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: last than you were listening to the radio. So it
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: was one of those like not.
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: Shock jocks, that's Morning Zoo crew.
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, something like that. And so they were doing like
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: who's our dumbest criminal of the week or whatever, and
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: so this was one of the stories.
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: Yes, so I don't need to ask you if it's
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: Florida or not Florida.
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: You know, I don't remember where it was.
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: I'll just pause and let the let the listeners try
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: and figure it out.
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: Oh, I don't know where it was because all I
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: knew was by the time I like picked because you
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: can't rewind on radio obviously. Now actually you can in
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: my car. You can rewind for like twenty minutes. Yeah really, yeah,
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: you can it records for like twenty minutes. My car's old,
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: it's the demobile. It's the hell damage to be Hickle,
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: but she's she's trusty and reliable. Anyways, I didn't think
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: about that, but all I picked up was the name Michael,
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: Mexican restaurant and Wells Fargo. So I don't actually know.
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: I don't I can't remember if it was Florida or
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: not Florida. I'm going to go with not Florida.
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: Man allegedly rob's West Jordan bank spends money on Mexican food,
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: not Florida.
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: Huh is that where's West Jordan? That I know? It's
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: not the country Jordan?
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: Obviously not, because I don't think we'd be getting a
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: crime report about a Mexican rustier or.
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: A Wells Fargo.
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: Yes, I don't know.
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: Maybe if our listeners are in Jordan, maybe you're so
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: random Mexican restaurant.
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: I don't think so that next to a Wells Fargo. Yes.
• 35:15
  Speaker 2: Fox thirteen, Salt Lake City, Utah. It was Utah, West Jordan, Utah.
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: A man is facing criminal solicitation aggravated robbery chargers after
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: police say my phone just refreshed in the middle of
• 35:29
  Speaker 2: reading a story. I hate that.
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: You want to finish the story because I know the.
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: Story now after police say he robbed a West Jordan
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: bank then spent the stolen money on a Mexican on
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: Mexican food and a tip. Michael Grant Robinson, three names,
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: probably a serial killer in his off time, age thirty five,
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: was arrested on Monday. According to court documents, West Jordan
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: police were called to a Wells Fargo bank at three
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: eight eight nine West Campus Few Drive, if you know
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: where that's at on Monday places. We're told that around
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: one PM, a man later identified as Michael entered the
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: bank and handed a note to the teller. The note
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: said allegedly said I got a weapon. I need one
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: thousand dollars. After handing the teller of the note, Robinson
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: opened his jacket the show a handle of a knife.
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: At the time, the teller says they believe that the
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: knife handle appeared to them to be a gun of
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: some sort.
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: Well, I don't I'm just a bank employee. I don't
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: give a fuck about Wells Fargo. Wells Fargo is one
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: of those terrible banks too.
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they were opening accounts.
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: Them and Bank of America are really not I'm not
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: saying all the banks are probably a little skeedu but
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: Wells Fargo and Bank of America are two that I
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: would never bank with ever again. They are predatory like
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: Bank of America.
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: Oh we have Bank of MA.
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: We have we don't have a bank account. We have
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: a credit card there, we don't have a I would
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: never do banking with them.
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: Who do you think you're? IRN counselor?
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: I don't know, Stu.
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: Is that bank from marilynd run by Boa?
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: Oh well then we need to move that. I hate bank.
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: You know what it is because when I was young.
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: This is why I hate Bank of America.
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: And I finished my story before you tell us why
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: you hate Bank of America.
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: Okay, fine.
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: The teller allegedly handed Robinson one hundred and forty dollars.
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: Tellers like, we don't have one thousand dollars.
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: Here, take this, here's one hundred and forty. It's all twenties.
• 37:24
  Speaker 2: That's all I got. The teller then told Robinson that
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: was all she had and he left the bank. After
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: leaving the bank, police say Robinson went to the Puerto Vierte,
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: Mexican Grille and ordered a meal that totaled nineteen dollars
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: and ninety three cents. After receiving the meal. Police said
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: Robinson gave the remainder of the money as a tip
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: to the waiter who served him.
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: So he's just Robinhood.
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: Yes really. Police later detained Robinson as he matched the
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: description of the suspect in the bank robbery. Investigators say
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: he also matches his matches surveillance video from the bank.
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: Just let him go. Come on, All he did was
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: support a local business, okay, and help a wait around.
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: Yes, so anyway, I would Bank of America du to
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: you wore we go.
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: Because because I find it okay. So like of course
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: when I was young, I would get over draft fees.
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: But you know when they found this later on, they
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: found this to be illegal. I don't think any of
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: the banks can just continually add over draft fees. They
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: didn't have any of those stops back then, you know,
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: where you could say just decline my card or after
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: so many so I got like it would sit there
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: and do one every single time, like a small cy'd
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: be like three dollars, and then you get a thirty
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: five dollars fee. And then by the time you realized it,
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: because this was back whenever I was banking with before,
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: like you had the app and stuff like that. So
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: you just open it up on your computer. You know,
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: you're like three hundred dollars in the hole and it's
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: all overdraft fees over like two and three dollars things,
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: which I think they found like the Congress or whoever,
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: when they did all these like credit card things they
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: found that was like predatory, predatory, predatory. Sure to sit
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: there and keep charging people overdraft fees like that on
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: like small amounts and not stop. So basically Bank of
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: America would just keep going and.
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: Be like, oh, yes, wip it again, fib it again.
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: Yes. Nowadays you can like just say decline my card
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: or whatever. You know, now they have that option and
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: stuff like that, and I don't think they can just
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: continually add overdraft fees like that. But when I was young,
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: like that was like really, you know, like I'm nineteen
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: twenty years old. That was like I'm never going to
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: I will never financially.
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: I'm the tiger out.
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: And so I think eventually, so I canceled my bank.
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: After I did that, I canceled, I did move on.
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: So I've hated Bank of America ever since then. I
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: feel like it was just like sketchy and Wells Fargo
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: was doing the same thing.
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: Well, they were all doing sometimes happened, but that's just
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: who I been to me at the bank that I
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: was with, because my account for some reason went down
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: to zero one time and I didn't know it, and
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: I was out the next day work and just wipping
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: my card for this, that and the other.
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: I know, But you were at a local bank. I'm
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: pretty sure they probably forgave you a lot of that.
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: They did.
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: They were like, you get one per year. The rest
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: of them fuck you.
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: I went to see my personal banker at the bank.
• 40:20
  Speaker 2: I said, hey, look, here is what happened.
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: Yes, you had that lady that worked at the bank
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: because you had a local bank that would help you
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: out if something like that happened.
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: So, yeah, it was a whole ordeal.
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: We do not have those current issues. I'm much more
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: responsible with money or somebody's divorced from somebody with those issues.
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: Why are you looking at me like that, Well, I
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: don't know what you're talking about. You weren't being irresponsible
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: with the money. Somebody else in your life was possibly
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: being irresponsible with the money. So you and the lady
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: at the bank we had to have a talk. Yes,
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: So I am no longer irresponsible with money. Well, I
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: am irresponsible, but now I have grown up moneyes.
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: You actually have extra money, so you can be responsible.
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: Yes, there's a buffer between my yes, and I would
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: never like, even like today, my bank card if it
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: ever got down, it just you need to decline my
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: ass So you're like, don't be but now you get
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: text alerts, like you're very aware of when your bank
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: is getting your bank accounts getting low.
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you can set let me. You can be like,
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: if my shit goes blow a hundred dollars, I need
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: to know.
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so I have like text set up if it
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: goes blow a certain amount, if there's certain charges that
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: are over a certain amount, it texts me immediately.
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: So anyways, but I got emails for every transaction.
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: Of mine. Yes, you're you don't have access to my
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: bank account.
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: You don't have access to my bank Well you do.
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: All you got to do is get in my phone
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: and you got access.
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: Well, all you got to do is get in my phone.
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: You have access to it because I took the freaking
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: face thing off my phone because it was broke, because
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: my phone phones old and it's we do. I just
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: want to be clear though. We do have a Our
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: setup is he has his original bank account because we
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: dated for a very long time before we got married,
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: and I have my bank account, and then we have
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: a joint bank account. If anybody's wondering to like, oh, well,
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: they're just living separate lifestyles sometimes, yes, so we still
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: kept that where I have my bank account, he has
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: his been count and then we have a joint bank account.
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: Dave Ramsey would not be He'd be like, we're headed
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: from You're going to share a bedroom, but not a
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: bank account.
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: Mm hmm mm hmmm.
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: All right, that's enough personal sharing for the days too. Okay,
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: So to recap, recap, recap, we didn't get married or
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: we didn't get murdered at the base camp Terlingua. I
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: wouldn't suggest going and booking through those people though, U.
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: Two I'm pregnant. Three we're sorry we missed last week.
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: Four we have a joint bank account. Five Dave Ramsey
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: would be disappoint Six.
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: I just saw it today. It's crazy breaking news. Savannah
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: Guthrie's mom has been kidnapped and Pema Arizona.
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: Okay, that's not breaking news.
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: Well I was breaking a couple hours ago.
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: Okay, well, but.
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: Not by the time this is being listening to.
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: But do you have any other additional information?
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: No, that's all they got is that they she's missing.
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: They believe it's crime scene. They believe she was kidnapped.
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: No ransom note. They don't know if anything's missing. If
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: they are, they're not saying anything.
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: But Savannah gun three did this for attention. I'm kidding.
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: I don't know anything about Savannah gun.
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: Three, or she's some morning host I.
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: Know she is. I'm saying like, I don't know if
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: I like her, don't like her. She seems well, what
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: about her mom?
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: Does that have any bearing on whether or not you
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: think her mom should be kidnapped?
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: You know, Sue, there's only so much room for me.
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: To empathy in this world.
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: We're not meant to know all these all these informations.
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: I don't know Savannah gun three. I don't know her.
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: Mom, obviously, not because it's Guthrie not on.
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: It's not that I don't feel sorry for late, But
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: do we know she was older? Does she not have
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: Alzheimer's or there could be something like that going on?
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: Oh I said she was mentally with it.
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: So okay, Well, well we'll keep it.
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: I said, there's a crime scene the polace o. There's
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: a crime scene.
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: Well, that's just crazy. They had to have known she
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: was Savannah Got threes mother mother, and then why wouldn't
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: there be a ransom? Like I do think the only
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: reason would be to be after the money. So that's weird. No,
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: it's not that I don't care.
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: If there are bound there was somebody that maybe did
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: some work there, but what.
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: Are they at they should be asking for something?
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: Well, Champion gone long enough. They were probably like, hey,
• 44:41
  Speaker 2: we're going to kidnap her then do a ransom, and
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: then two minutes after that kidnapped.
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: Her to a restaurant.
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: Everything went sideways and they're like, oh geez.
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: Maybe they just like picked some random person and then
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: they were like it's like, oh shit, this is Savannah
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: Guter's mom. Anyway, all right, it's not funny that she's missing.
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: It's very sad. Everything that I'm just saying that there's
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: a lot to take in in the world, and we weren't.
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: We were not meant to know all of these things
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: every single day, every terrible thing that happens in them.
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: No, that's too much.
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's all just too much. You know, we were
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: infiltrated with just the bad all the time.
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: I can't even imagine what these first responders we're seeing
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: the actually go and see all that shit go down.
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Anyways, all right, well, I guess don't forget Patreon,
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: dot com, slash blusses, mess podcasts, TikTok, Instagram, Facebook, and YouTube.
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: And I think that's it. Do do everything else I
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: did not. All right, well, I guess we will see
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: you next time. By everyone, say bye Steve By.
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: Don't you know it's bad to be SUPERSTI shots by
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: mapping else it's working sick and it is worrying. Bo la.
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: I can