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Ay Por Favor: Alexia Speaks Out · Two Ts In A Pod with Teddi Mellencamp and Tamra Judge

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Speaker 1: With Alexi Napola and Marisa Patton and iHeartRadio Podcast. Hi everyone,
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Speaker 1: and welcome back to I Put Forward a new week,
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Speaker 1: new info, new discoveries, and I'm so happy to have
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Speaker 1: my best Sie back with me today.
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Speaker 2: Alexia, how are you doing? Okay? Yeah, I'm not great. Well,
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Speaker 2: since you've been gone, I had to let.
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Speaker 1: The audience know what has happened in your life, and I'm.
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Speaker 2: Sure that they want to hear from you. So she's
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Speaker 2: here today, hot topic today. Tell me because I'm hop
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Speaker 2: of because well, you're talking.
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Speaker 1: About hot and you're in the hot seat. But you know,
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Speaker 1: I think the audience is going to give you grace
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Speaker 1: and we're gonna let you tell us as much as
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Speaker 1: you feel like telling us, because this is a thing
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Speaker 1: that takes baby steps and it's all very new.
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Speaker 2: And well, let's just dive in. I guess right. Okay,
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Speaker 2: So how are you doing?
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Speaker 1: Obviously some shocking things have happened in the last two weeks.
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Speaker 2: How are you feeling how handling things? Oh, it's been
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Speaker 2: three weeks, so I'm still taking it all in and
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Speaker 2: trying to understand to to process it. You know, I
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Speaker 2: think that, like in every relationship, you kind of like
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Speaker 2: go back, you know, to the seven years and we've
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Speaker 2: been together, because even though we were married for two
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Speaker 2: years and three months, because I count every day, you
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Speaker 2: just can't help yourself but to go back to those
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Speaker 2: seven years and say what went wrong? Right, I know
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Speaker 2: you're gonna make me cry.
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Speaker 1: Wait, traice system hard to talk, I know, I know,
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Speaker 1: I know, all right, take your time, take your time.
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Speaker 2: Time for the first week, for the first two weeks.
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Speaker 2: Actually still today it's been three weeks, and I'm still
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Speaker 2: going back in my head, like what happened? Yeah, And
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Speaker 2: you know, I'm a positive person, so I try to
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Speaker 2: think about all the beautiful times and we had together,
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Speaker 2: all of our beautiful troops, and I'm very positive. So
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Speaker 2: I want to remember that, you know, And I don't
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Speaker 2: want to have any anger. But I understand that an
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Speaker 2: anger is also one of the grieving stations. Stations are
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Speaker 2: I said, session, sorry, one of the stages of stages. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: I don't even know what I'm saying, okay, because I
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Speaker 2: find myself like lost. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you've been like
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Speaker 2: the blindsided. You're getting your bearings. Yes, So, but like
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Speaker 2: I said, it's been really really difficult. It's been very painful, hurtful,
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Speaker 2: and you know, I'm just getting through it. And I
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Speaker 2: want to thank you that have been like my rock,
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Speaker 2: have been by my side every day, and everybody, everyone's
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Speaker 2: all pour of love and support.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, well everybody loves you and you feel good and
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Speaker 1: be happy.
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Speaker 2: And my children, you know, Peter and Frankie that I
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Speaker 2: have been, you know, by my side. And I just
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Speaker 2: believe that the only way to heal is with love
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Speaker 2: and through love. So I'm very lucky to have that
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Speaker 2: because I really do believe that love is the healing power.
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Speaker 2: It is. And you know what, you give so much love,
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Speaker 2: how you're not going to get it back. When you
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Speaker 2: give love, it comes back. When you give anger and hate,
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Speaker 2: that's what you get back. No, I don't want to
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Speaker 2: feel that. I'm never going I felt anything of you know,
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Speaker 2: hate or angry because I still love him and like
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Speaker 2: we love each other. It's not because we don't love
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Speaker 2: each other, but it's just very sad that I guess
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Speaker 2: we can figure out a way, you know, to to
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Speaker 2: fix things. And and that's why I was in such shock,
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Speaker 2: because I'm like a fighter, right.
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Speaker 1: Right, Well, somebody gave up somebody.
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Speaker 2: And I was never expecting that. You know, I thought
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Speaker 2: things were good. I wasn't either, right, I really was.
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Speaker 2: So it's been really shocking and I'm devastated. You know,
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Speaker 2: I'm pretending for tending but you know, to be okay.
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Speaker 2: But you know, I cry a lot. I stay busy.
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Speaker 2: I stay busy, which helps me a lot always, you know,
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Speaker 2: to think less of my own internal things.
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Speaker 1: You're very good at that, because I'm the first one
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Speaker 1: to lay down and put a blanket over my head
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Speaker 1: and just isolate. I isolate and lick my own wounds.
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Speaker 1: But you're very good at keeping busy.
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Speaker 2: But you also have Frankie. Yeah, well, I have no choice.
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Speaker 2: I have to be strong and I have to keep
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Speaker 2: on going. Yeah, I have to keep on going. I have,
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Speaker 2: you know, two sons. I have a business and you know,
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Speaker 2: and I have a life. I just can't afford to be,
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Speaker 2: you know, at home in my bed. Then that's not
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Speaker 2: how I heal, right. You know, for me, healing is
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Speaker 2: to be around keepers that love me. For me, healing
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Speaker 2: is you know, to go on walks to exercise. For me,
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Speaker 2: healing is you know, talking to people, just getting it
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Speaker 2: all out.
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Speaker 1: Everyone deals differently, everybody.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I'm very religious, so obviously I pray
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Speaker 2: a lot into prayer, you know, and praying a night
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Speaker 2: helps me fall asleep. I mean, for the first two
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Speaker 2: or three nights, I didn't even sleep, so you know,
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Speaker 2: I'm getting there, but I'm surprised you're sleeping already because
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Speaker 2: that's sleeping like five hours. But I mean for the
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Speaker 2: first two nights, like when the news broke out before that,
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Speaker 2: because I knew a few days earlier. I you know,
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Speaker 2: I just didn't sleep for like two straight nights, just
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Speaker 2: thinking it was like it was like a nightmare, like,
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Speaker 2: oh my god, what is this? Like I still think
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Speaker 2: this is real, Like I still think that maybe there's,
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Speaker 2: you know, a chance for us to to fix it
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Speaker 2: because we love each other. So for me, love has
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Speaker 2: always been such a powerful source. But you know, some
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Speaker 2: people argue and say, you know, love is not enough,
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Speaker 2: you know, and we're you know, into each other, we
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Speaker 2: like each other, like, you know, it was just I
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Speaker 2: don't know, like I'm still again just wrapping my thoughts around,
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Speaker 2: my head around it and just trying to understand how
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Speaker 2: we got here. Mm hmmmm hmm. Yeah. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: So and let me ask you something, because you know,
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Speaker 1: when the news hit the press. I remember someone DMed
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Speaker 1: it to me on Instagram and then I called you
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Speaker 1: and I said, oh my god, it's out. We only
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Speaker 1: knew like three or four days beforehand. What what what
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Speaker 1: did you think? Where do you think that came from? Like,
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Speaker 1: how in the world did that get out there?
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Speaker 2: I have no idea. I don't even know about that.
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Speaker 2: I know that I was driving and my phone started
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Speaker 2: blowing up and I had to pull to the side
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Speaker 2: because I was shaking and crying. I'm sorry. It was
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Speaker 2: actually talking no Johnny. I was talking to Johnny, and
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Speaker 2: Johnny was like, Alexia, please just pull to the side,
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Speaker 2: and I just like broke down, like couldn't. Like to me,
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Speaker 2: it's still like a movie. It's like a it's like
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Speaker 2: a surreal moment, Like I can't believe that this is
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Speaker 2: happening to me after seven and a half years, Yeah,
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Speaker 2: has this and like and how much love we had
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Speaker 2: between us that we will have a conversation and how
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Speaker 2: well you know, I was never given that opportunity.
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Speaker 1: Well, because it's like he's not like you. He's not
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Speaker 1: like you, and he doesn't do things the way that
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Speaker 1: you do. But I didn't think he'd do them like
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Speaker 1: this and surprise you. But some people just can't handle
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Speaker 1: the talking, you know, and it takes two.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, And like I said, I mean for me,
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Speaker 2: everything I saw, everything was okay. You know, like couples,
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Speaker 2: you fight on a lot of things. It's very argumentative,
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Speaker 2: so am I. And so you know, we had some
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Speaker 2: good fights but that from that, some real good ones
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Speaker 2: for the books. But you know, but through that, like
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Speaker 2: I said, we would always you know, have a comeback
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Speaker 2: and you know, and you know and make up and
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Speaker 2: what not. Just a couples do right, right, And so
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Speaker 2: I didn't know that he could have been so unhappy
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Speaker 2: that he would fill for the worst. Yes, you know,
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Speaker 2: because I say that it's like a conversation you know,
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Speaker 2: that you have with somebody, like I feel like I
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Speaker 2: deserve that. So after seven years, oh my god, that conversation.
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Speaker 2: That's just not even a normal way to exit a relationship.
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Speaker 1: You just don't get up and surprise someone and blindside
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Speaker 1: them and not really have a conversation about it.
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Speaker 2: Like who does that? I can't think of what relationships
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Speaker 2: that's the most difficult because you know what divorces happened
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Speaker 2: every day, separations, breakups and whatnot. But it's not how
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Speaker 2: you come into the relationship, it's how you leave. And
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Speaker 2: I would have never expected him to leave like this.
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Speaker 2: You know, I didn't deserve it. I didn't deserve it,
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Speaker 2: And that's what I need to tell myself, Like you
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Speaker 2: did not deserve this, because you kind of like go
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Speaker 2: back and you start thinking, like, you know, maybe you
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Speaker 2: know I've been a terrible wife, maybe I've been this,
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Speaker 2: that and the other.
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Speaker 1: You kind of start blaming you blame yourself every time.
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Speaker 1: What did I do wrong? What did I do wrong?
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Speaker 1: Why wasn't I good enough? Why wasn't I perfect enough?
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Speaker 1: And then we beat ourselves up, and then we try
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Speaker 1: to make it because we're fixers.
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you try to make it. But that's always
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Speaker 2: been me and he knows that, you know. You know,
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Speaker 2: I'm already to talk yet obviously when I'm talking from
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Speaker 2: a place of love and because how much I love him,
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Speaker 2: and I will hopefully continue to speak this way because
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Speaker 2: I want to feel love in my heart always, absolutely,
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Speaker 2: you know, towards him. So but I'm just so just
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Speaker 2: disappointed about the way he handled this, about the way
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Speaker 2: you know, I just being here, just being here and
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Speaker 2: having to talk about this, like your my life changed
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Speaker 2: in a second, like everything in my life, like in
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Speaker 2: a second.
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Speaker 1: You know.
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Speaker 2: It was like on Friday night, we were out at
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Speaker 2: a restaurant having drinks and dinner, having a good time,
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Speaker 2: and that's it, and then you know, and then it
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Speaker 2: was over. So to me, it's been really really tough,
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Speaker 2: really really difficult. Sorry, my friend, that's been shocking for
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Speaker 2: me too. I can't even imagine how you feel. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: I mean, we were supposed to be in New York
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Speaker 2: right now, right now, right you Actually we're in New York.
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Speaker 1: We're doing New York, like from New York. We have
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Speaker 1: an appearance here this weekend because the show must come on,
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Speaker 1: the show must go on. But this was before, this
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Speaker 1: has been in the planning stage for six eight weeks now,
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Speaker 1: so we had planned to come Steve Todd, the four
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Speaker 1: of us, and then all of this happened. So and
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Speaker 1: then Steve said, well, you girls just go lectually. Probably
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Speaker 1: you'll have more fun with her alone. And now I'm
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Speaker 1: here alone with her, and yeah, there was a whole
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Speaker 1: plan for us to all be together.
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Speaker 2: So so to me and that and you know, many
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Speaker 2: other things, like I said that only him and I know, yeah,
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Speaker 2: and you know, and that's why I'm feeling the way
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Speaker 2: that I am right, you know what I mean, And
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Speaker 2: I can't say that I was blindsided.
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Speaker 1: So how do you feel at this point? I know
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Speaker 1: you're doing a lot of prayer and you're trying to
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Speaker 1: think of the good things, but you know, realistically moving forward,
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Speaker 1: I mean, at least for me when I have a breakup.
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Speaker 1: I've never been good at this because I am sure
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Speaker 1: like a lot of people out there, you glamorize the
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Speaker 1: good times and they always in your mind outweigh all
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Speaker 1: of the horrible things. I know, it's just something else
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Speaker 1: women do and then we think we can fix it
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Speaker 1: and everything was really perfect even though everything was really horrible.
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Speaker 2: And I know you're trying to focus on the good things,
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Speaker 2: but how are you really going to get over this
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Speaker 2: if you keep just thinking about the good times and
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Speaker 2: how much you love him? Realistically? I just need to know,
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Speaker 2: I mean, I just think the prepare that I want
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Speaker 2: to be, you know, like like I need him in
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Speaker 2: my life. You know, I'm just not that person that
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Speaker 2: you have a breakup with and then you'll see them again.
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Speaker 2: Oh that's what I do.
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Speaker 1: I'm a Capricorn, I do a drastic cutout, and I
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Speaker 1: never see you again and never speak to you again.
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Speaker 2: And that's that I mean, I feel like if the
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Speaker 2: person really hurt you, and I am hurting right now,
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Speaker 2: and I believe that he did hurt me because you
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Speaker 2: know my pain like you knows my pain. And I'm
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Speaker 2: sure for him as well of course, because again, like
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Speaker 2: I know, we love each other so much, right, So
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Speaker 2: I think that that's what makes it harder, because I
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Speaker 2: think that when you don't like the person and you
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Speaker 2: want to get out, then it's just easier. You're thank you, right,
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Speaker 2: But even with all this happening, like I still have
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Speaker 2: love for him, and I'm still in love with him,
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Speaker 2: so I know it's gonna take.
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Speaker 1: That's a beautiful thing because I would be well, my
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Speaker 1: stage of grieving would be under my covers, obviously starving
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Speaker 1: myself not starving. I wouldn't even be able to eat,
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Speaker 1: and I be you know, crying a lot, like eight pounds.
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Speaker 2: By the way, but I think you look terrific. Just
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Speaker 2: what was You look gorgeous?
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Speaker 1: And I see everyone else in the room smiling like, yeah,
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Speaker 1: go bro, hot bro, revenge body, revenge body.
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Speaker 2: Now I see why people get the revenge body because
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Speaker 2: you literally don't eat. And you know, okay, I know
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Speaker 2: you're you wait a few I'm sad. I eat. I mean,
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Speaker 2: no matter what emotion I'm going through, I'm gonna. Oh yeah,
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Speaker 2: I saw you like fives at Pippins the other night.
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Speaker 2: Yeah I did.
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Speaker 1: They were so good, but you know what, and I'm
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Speaker 1: vegan and I ate them. They were humbo.
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Speaker 2: Yeah I ate. But yeah, you get like this, not
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Speaker 2: in the stomach that you can eat. You can eat, So.
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Speaker 1: I know I've been there. But again, I think that
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Speaker 1: the most.
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Speaker 2: Important thing has been the outpour of love, support from
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Speaker 2: friends and family, from my friends, from my family. You know,
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Speaker 2: even though you guys know I'm not big on social media,
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Speaker 2: you know I did see and read a lot. I mean,
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Speaker 2: not all of all of the comments, but you know,
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Speaker 2: all the comments were just.
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Speaker 1: Overwhelmingly supportive, supporting me and how much love.
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Speaker 2: I can feel the love. So thank you for that,
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Speaker 2: because that makes the world of a difference, because I'm
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Speaker 2: the kind of person that you all know I feel
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Speaker 2: about social media and a lot of times, you know,
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Speaker 2: and this is what makes it so difficult, because we're
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Speaker 2: public people run a platform and and you guys get
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Speaker 2: to weigh in and give your opinions, and you know
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Speaker 2: sometimes that they're not so nice, they're horrible. Because I
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Speaker 2: did see a few say, oh, of course we saw
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Speaker 2: it coming. Why do you see things coming? I know
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Speaker 2: I read those tims like, how did you see it
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Speaker 2: coming up? I didn't see it coming the show that
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Speaker 2: you saw for two minutes, two seconds for a time,
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Speaker 2: and they picked the most salacious clip because that's the
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Speaker 2: one that's going to be the most interesting people. Nobody
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Speaker 2: saw it coming. I didn't even see it.
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Speaker 1: Coming because like for me, the D were like divorce
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Speaker 1: is just like yeah, like that's not the D word.
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Speaker 2: I like, exactly, Oh, well, that makes two of us.
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Speaker 2: I wish there would have been that word, not the
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Speaker 2: other one. So I wish we were to be talking
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Speaker 2: about the D that we both like and not the
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Speaker 2: D that you know.
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Speaker 1: I always say that we're in love with love, but
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Speaker 1: I think we're in love with the D.
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Speaker 2: Well, that's different. That's for it, by the way, that's separate.
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Speaker 2: But so yeah, back to that, you know, there were
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Speaker 2: a lot and this is what makes it even more
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Speaker 2: difficult for me. It's not because you know, I don't
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Speaker 2: read all the comments. But then if I don't read them,
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Speaker 2: I have some friends that bring it up to my
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Speaker 2: attention and they send me, oh did you see this?
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Speaker 2: Did you see that? And then everybody starts forming an
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Speaker 2: opinion of you and your relationship. It's very toxic and
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Speaker 2: it's horrible. Yeah, and you don't need really very bad
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Speaker 2: and I will, luckily for me, Like I said, I
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Speaker 2: try not to read those, and I don't read all
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Speaker 2: of them. I'm surprised you didn't shut your comments off.
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Speaker 2: But actually four actually, you know what.
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Speaker 1: It was a good thing because ninety seven percent of
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Speaker 1: it I couldn't read it all. Obviously, it was like
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Speaker 1: right almost like like a lot, like thirteen hundred comments.
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Speaker 1: It was a lot, but I read a lot of
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Speaker 1: positive and supportive things, which may be very as it
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Speaker 1: should be.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, but people can be cruel moment like that. So
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Speaker 2: I was so readers and there's bad people, but you
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Speaker 2: had a lot of love, no, I know that. That's
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Speaker 2: why I'm thanking everyone. Yeah, and as I should, because
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Speaker 2: at a time like this, it's already so difficult that
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Speaker 2: you're going through something like this, so you add you know,
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Speaker 2: people saying, you know, mean things, and you know, just
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Speaker 2: giving their opinion that they don't know anything, and it
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Speaker 2: could get to you. You're already struggling going through your
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Speaker 2: mental breakdown, right and then in addition to that, you
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Speaker 2: start reading that and it could really get you down. Absolutely,
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Speaker 2: you can really get you down. But thank you for
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Speaker 2: all your love and support, because I think that that's
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Speaker 2: what it should be about. About being positive about we're
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Speaker 2: with you, we're praying for you. You know, you got this,
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Speaker 2: you know, and building, you know, uplifting the person, not
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Speaker 2: putting them down already it's such a horrible at the
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Speaker 2: point in their life.
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Speaker 1: I would like to personally thank everyone to put a
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Speaker 1: nice message to Alexia, because you know what, when you're down,
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Speaker 1: you're gonna want that too, And if you put negative
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Speaker 1: stuff out there, it's just going to come back to you.
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Speaker 2: So always be kind and supportive.
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Speaker 1: I know Instagrams or any social media platforms such an
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Speaker 1: easy place to breed hate.
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Speaker 2: But when you're.
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Speaker 1: Hateful, you live in a you live in a suspended
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Speaker 1: place of hate and anger, and then you never get out,
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Speaker 1: you never have any happiness of your own.
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Speaker 2: You have to turn that around and be positive and kind.
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Speaker 2: I mean, people just don't get it. They just I
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Speaker 2: even heard that there were some people saying this, that
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Speaker 2: I was doing this for a storyline. You believe that
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Speaker 2: you could be so low, like you can be such
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Speaker 2: like a malicious, horrible, disgusting person that you would say.
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Speaker 1: That they're they're writing on your coattails for a storyline
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Speaker 1: and attention, of.
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Speaker 2: Course, but they would even say something like this. I mean,
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Speaker 2: who's going to put their marriage on the line or
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Speaker 2: say something like this for a storyline? I mean, if
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Speaker 2: you do, like you're like disgusting and pathetic, and you
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Speaker 2: know like that's by the way, I like my character.
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Speaker 2: That's not who I've been.
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Speaker 1: You know what, the audience knows when it's fake and
17:57
Speaker 1: when it's real.
17:58
Speaker 2: I wish it was fake. Yeah, I know me too.
18:01
Speaker 2: You don't know how much I prayed and cried for
18:03
Speaker 2: this to be fake.
18:04
Speaker 1: Do you know how sad I get it before I
18:07
Speaker 1: go to bed every night, because I know how it
18:08
Speaker 1: feels to go to bed alone.
18:11
Speaker 3: And with your thoughts even and that heart. No, no,
18:15
Speaker 3: I goes sleeping with me. No no, no, I don't mean
18:17
Speaker 3: also been. I don't mean the company of a body.
18:20
Speaker 3: I mean your thoughts. That's when the pain sits in,
18:23
Speaker 3: sets in when you're alone with your thoughts before you.
18:25
Speaker 1: Go to bed at night.
18:26
Speaker 2: Not for me in the morning, but for me, the
18:28
Speaker 2: most difficult time of day for me has been when
18:32
Speaker 2: I've gone home, you know, not to the apartment, and
18:35
Speaker 2: you know, we would more or less get home at
18:37
Speaker 2: the same time, him a little earlier, and he would
18:40
Speaker 2: always tell me, how come you get home later than me?
18:41
Speaker 2: Because I was like going to be home before him.
18:43
Speaker 2: He liked, like his wife to be home. But you know,
18:45
Speaker 2: the beauty bar picks up in the afternoon, so a
18:48
Speaker 2: lot of times I would go later. My date would
18:50
Speaker 2: start later than his. Therefore I would finish later than
18:53
Speaker 2: you're open later. So I would get to the apartment
18:56
Speaker 2: and he was already there, so he was either reading
18:58
Speaker 2: his book or he was like in taking a nap
19:01
Speaker 2: or you know, having coffee. You know, he's expressedive before
19:03
Speaker 2: going to the gym, but I was look forward to that, like,
19:06
Speaker 2: you know, let me hurry home because he's there, and
19:08
Speaker 2: then we would talk about our day and whatnot, whatever
19:11
Speaker 2: and no, and then every night we will go out
19:13
Speaker 2: to dinner. So that time of day for me, when
19:16
Speaker 2: I get home and I see it's not there. It's
19:18
Speaker 2: just that's so hard. It's been very, very hard because yea,
19:22
Speaker 2: I'm going to go to sleep. I'm so tired from
19:24
Speaker 2: like everything that I'm taught throughout the day. That a
19:28
Speaker 2: little exhausting. And Coco's been sleeping with me. Coco's so cute.
19:31
Speaker 1: I love Coco's Alexia's dong.
19:33
Speaker 2: She's very cute. Yeah, it's like she knows I need
19:36
Speaker 2: her so like she's been sleeping with me. But my friend,
19:41
Speaker 2: you know, I'm I'm scared about the future, super scary.
19:47
Speaker 2: You know, it's scary. Just everything, Like you know, it's hard.
19:51
Speaker 2: I mean, it's different your fifties than your forties. Like
19:54
Speaker 2: I married Todd thinking I was going to be married
19:56
Speaker 2: him for the rest of my life. And and let's
19:59
Speaker 2: not forget you still had your mother around, you know,
20:02
Speaker 2: when you go through these things and you don't have
20:04
Speaker 2: your mom and your dad to talk to. Got about
20:06
Speaker 2: my mother's cart would give a lot of good advice, right,
20:10
Speaker 2: and she never took it to herself to herself. She
20:14
Speaker 2: was married and divorced five But I'm very good, but
20:16
Speaker 2: my mom always gave really good advice. I've been praying
20:19
Speaker 2: a lot to my mom. Yea, and and you know,
20:22
Speaker 2: I know this sh'll guide me. I do that. Her
20:26
Speaker 2: and Elsa her up there already planning your future.
20:30
Speaker 1: They're up there to calm down.
20:32
Speaker 2: Because I know I'm around. I think I'm going to
20:35
Speaker 2: be more careful about my future because I'm getting older.
20:40
Speaker 2: And yeah, and I'm not there yet, right right there yet.
20:44
Speaker 1: So speaking of their power, Peter and Frankie handling everything,
20:52
Speaker 1: you know.
20:54
Speaker 2: Peter doesn't talk much, you know, he keeps everything to himself.
20:59
Speaker 2: And but all I can know is that he's been
21:04
Speaker 2: by my side every single day. I've seen him more
21:07
Speaker 2: like these last three weeks that I've ever seen him,
21:09
Speaker 2: because he knows when I need him, he knows he
21:12
Speaker 2: has to be there, and he is. Frank I can't
21:14
Speaker 2: even tell you. He's an angel full of positivity. You know, Mom,
21:19
Speaker 2: You're strong, Mom, you got this. Yeah, Mom, you know
21:23
Speaker 2: he's just there. Mom. I love you, Mom. That tastes beautiful.
21:27
Speaker 2: Life is good here. He told me all these things
21:30
Speaker 2: shown limits in language. Yeah, But I just look at
21:34
Speaker 2: him and like, this is why I keep on doing this,
21:36
Speaker 2: Like how could Like I can't cry in front of him.
21:38
Speaker 2: I'm always with him so you know, it's it's been
21:42
Speaker 2: really really hard. I mean all of us, Evenugh I'm Frankie.
21:44
Speaker 2: You know, changes aren't good for him. You know, He's
21:47
Speaker 2: like the other day, we're having coffee and he's like, mom,
21:50
Speaker 2: Tod's gone. So it was like I have to run
21:53
Speaker 2: to my room to start crying.
21:55
Speaker 1: Right, And what I mean, I understand that you want
21:58
Speaker 1: to be strong for him, but it's okay you to cry.
22:00
Speaker 1: I mean, should he should know that it's okay.
22:03
Speaker 2: No, But you don't know.
22:04
Speaker 4: No mom likes for their kids, you know, to see
22:06
Speaker 4: them crying, you know, so you know, of course I
22:10
Speaker 4: tried to do it like when he's not there, but
22:12
Speaker 4: it broke my heart when he looked.
22:15
Speaker 2: And he's like, mom, Tod's gone. So it's like, it's hard.
22:18
Speaker 2: It's been so hard, Mariso. I would never imagine this.
22:22
Speaker 1: I don't know.
22:23
Speaker 2: I know me either. I'm in utter and complete shock
22:28
Speaker 2: and dismay. Always.
22:30
Speaker 1: Well, because you guys were used to, like, you know,
22:32
Speaker 1: you would argue, you'd get over things, and you'd move on,
22:35
Speaker 1: and you know, you get used to that kind of
22:37
Speaker 1: thing and it becomes a routine.
22:39
Speaker 2: And because we love each other so much and we're
22:41
Speaker 2: still saying, like I love you to each other, and
22:43
Speaker 2: you know, there's it's like, I don't know, it's just
22:46
Speaker 2: so crazy that like I.
22:47
Speaker 1: Don't know, is there a cliffhanger here? Is there maybe
22:50
Speaker 1: there's a reconciliation. We never know, you know, Crazier things
22:55
Speaker 1: have happened. Look at Liz Listen, Lisa Taylor and Richard
22:59
Speaker 1: Burry the same again.
23:00
Speaker 2: I will Yeah, you would marry him again. Yeah, I
23:05
Speaker 2: would marry Todd again. Yeah you would. All right, Well,
23:09
Speaker 2: I mean I only married. I was only married for
23:11
Speaker 2: two years, so yeah, I would like to like have
23:13
Speaker 2: a few more years with him. And by the way,
23:24
Speaker 2: I had as many texts of people reaching out to
23:26
Speaker 2: me and calling me as the day that Hermann passed away.
23:29
Speaker 2: Even people that I hadn't spoken to in years and
23:33
Speaker 2: I hadn't stayed in touch with, you know, called me,
23:36
Speaker 2: texted me. And I'm still three weeks later receiving you know,
23:40
Speaker 2: text and messages from people. You know, people have been
23:44
Speaker 2: with me for so many years and I've gone through
23:46
Speaker 2: my with me through life that and my journey that
23:51
Speaker 2: you know, they're rooting for me because they're like, I
23:53
Speaker 2: guess you know this poor woman. Everybody's like, but how
23:56
Speaker 2: did it happen? Like he was so in love with you,
23:59
Speaker 2: like you know, you guys are so in love that
24:01
Speaker 2: that was the majority of the text. But what happened?
24:05
Speaker 2: I mean, they're so in love, they were so good together,
24:07
Speaker 2: they're so beautiful together. And that's how I felt the same.
24:10
Speaker 2: I felt like, how is this happening? Why did this happen?
24:14
Speaker 2: Like we love each other so much? So yeah, thank
24:18
Speaker 2: you for you know, for like I said, you know
24:20
Speaker 2: to all my friends and my family and my family
24:24
Speaker 2: are really my friends because I have very little family.
24:27
Speaker 2: So the people that I'm referring to, you know exactly
24:30
Speaker 2: who you are. And you know, once again here they are,
24:34
Speaker 2: you know, voting for me and being there for me.
24:37
Speaker 2: Do you still believe in love and marriage? And you
24:42
Speaker 2: know marriage, I don't know anymore. Truthfully, that's it. I've
24:46
Speaker 2: been lucky in love, but I haven't been lucky staying married.
24:51
Speaker 2: Well to me, well you know so, but no, I'm
24:54
Speaker 2: like done. I really thought I was that's it that
24:57
Speaker 2: Todd was, you know, going to be my Okay, so
25:00
Speaker 2: let's find her forever. Let's I am not giving up
25:02
Speaker 2: on load, Okay.
25:03
Speaker 1: So Okay, so let's say you would have a long
25:06
Speaker 1: term relationship again, but not sign the paper about relationships.
25:09
Speaker 2: But I believe in love, so you're gonna Yeah, I
25:12
Speaker 2: believe in love because I'm a hopeless romantic me too,
25:15
Speaker 2: and I need to be emotionally connected. You know, to
25:19
Speaker 2: I already people, I already see your future.
25:21
Speaker 1: And this is this conversation is funny to me because
25:24
Speaker 1: I know you're hurting and I felt the same way
25:26
Speaker 1: in my last breakup. And here I am happy and
25:30
Speaker 1: married and I don't want to be with anybody else.
25:33
Speaker 1: But I'm really excited for you to do love so
25:36
Speaker 1: and I can live vicarously through you.
25:38
Speaker 2: And I'm gonna take charge of your love life. Now
25:41
Speaker 2: you're gonna leave me, My mom and your mother and Herman.
25:44
Speaker 2: We're all in charge. Now, just leave it in our hands. Prayer, prayer,
25:49
Speaker 2: and that my marriage didn't work out right well, Herman
25:55
Speaker 2: wants you to be have the best and.
25:57
Speaker 1: Be happy, and so do I, and so does I
26:00
Speaker 1: do behind and so does Nancay.
26:02
Speaker 2: Oh, you know your parents always on people the lovels
26:04
Speaker 2: always want that. Yeah, they always want that. But what
26:07
Speaker 2: I can't do is until I haven't healed properly, and
26:11
Speaker 2: I you know I can't move on.
26:13
Speaker 1: Well, of course you need time to heal, honey. I
26:16
Speaker 1: pulled a blanket over my head for two years. You
26:19
Speaker 1: know that went two years is too much? Bro Well,
26:21
Speaker 1: then COVID hit, so I got that extra year. I
26:23
Speaker 1: did a year and then you know what, it's never.
26:25
Speaker 2: Too much or too long. It's honest, whatever whatever may need,
26:29
Speaker 2: it's whatever you need. I mean, I see people move
26:31
Speaker 2: on after three months. I see people six months.
26:34
Speaker 1: But they're not. It's not a healthy You're not healthy mentally.
26:37
Speaker 1: For that, I emerged a butterfly, a self healed human being.
26:43
Speaker 2: On my own.
26:43
Speaker 1: I always say, like your wounds, I left my own wounds.
26:46
Speaker 1: I never went to a therapist. I am a mom
26:48
Speaker 1: or dad to talk to because they passed away. And
26:51
Speaker 1: I did it all by myself. And we've talked about
26:54
Speaker 1: this before, and you know it made me better and stronger.
26:58
Speaker 1: I needed that because I was very weak emotionally.
27:02
Speaker 2: You know, maybe that's why I kept just jumping into
27:04
Speaker 2: things that I wasn't ready for. So me isolating myself
27:08
Speaker 2: and coming out stronger, maybe a better person, a better partner,
27:12
Speaker 2: and I attracted something better for myself.
27:16
Speaker 1: You know, so you know, you take all the time
27:18
Speaker 1: in the world that you need.
27:19
Speaker 2: You know I'm talking about strong. You know. Everybody like
27:23
Speaker 2: life doesn't prepare you for like emotional strength, you know
27:26
Speaker 2: what I mean. It's like we're not born with that
27:28
Speaker 2: emotional strength. You know, I have it because of all
27:31
Speaker 2: my life lesson. Yeah, it's like everybody's like, you got this,
27:35
Speaker 2: I know, but you can't.
27:36
Speaker 1: That pisces me off.
27:37
Speaker 2: Can I tell you? I know you are? That's what
27:42
Speaker 2: That's what I keep saying.
27:43
Speaker 1: Stop falling into this whole persona that everyone has thrown
27:48
Speaker 1: on you. Alexi here so strong, You're so strong. Take
27:51
Speaker 1: the time, cry, break down, be weak, do it in private,
27:57
Speaker 1: do whatever you have to do.
27:58
Speaker 2: But don't force yourself. That's strongest telling you, because you
28:02
Speaker 2: know I speak from the heart. It's not the same,
28:05
Speaker 2: you know, when you're fifty seven years old. My birthday's
28:08
Speaker 2: next Friday, May through and I'm turning fifty seven. Yeah,
28:11
Speaker 2: and it's like you feel differently inside. I don't care
28:13
Speaker 2: how good you look at the outside and how healthy
28:16
Speaker 2: you are, because thank goodness, I am, but inside it
28:20
Speaker 2: feels different, like you feel like I don't have so
28:23
Speaker 2: much time left anymore. It's true, you know, and it's
28:25
Speaker 2: like starting over and it's not even about the man.
28:27
Speaker 2: It's starting over and so many aspects of that lie.
28:30
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, so it's yeah, it's very it's very
28:34
Speaker 1: scary times, very scary times.
28:37
Speaker 2: But you know what, I have no choice, you have
28:41
Speaker 2: no every time I've had to be strong in my life,
28:44
Speaker 2: it's because I've had no choice. Yeah, right, no other choice.
28:49
Speaker 2: And you know what, You're right, I've come back stronger
28:53
Speaker 2: and better, you know, how much more? Like how much more?
28:56
Speaker 2: I know how much all I want to do. This
28:58
Speaker 2: is the last time and healthy and this is it time.
29:01
Speaker 2: You know. I don't care about what other people think.
29:05
Speaker 2: I care about you know, the material things and where
29:09
Speaker 2: I live. I mean, I just don't want to have
29:10
Speaker 2: to be moving every year or two, right, right, But
29:12
Speaker 2: it's not so riet. I mean that's a different story
29:15
Speaker 2: that having to move, so that's different. But I don't
29:19
Speaker 2: care about any of that stuff. I would get all
29:22
Speaker 2: of that up, everything, every single Paarachhue. I have every
29:26
Speaker 2: single perse, every single piece of jewelry for my kids
29:30
Speaker 2: and myself and taught just to be healthy and happy.
29:34
Speaker 2: That's it. That's all I'm want. I don't care about
29:35
Speaker 2: anything else. But you know, I guess I haven't been
29:41
Speaker 2: fortunate in that way. You've been fortunate.
29:43
Speaker 1: In many ways, and your future is going to be
29:47
Speaker 1: bright because you're a very hard worker. People don't know Alexai.
29:51
Speaker 1: She's a super hard worker, and she's always made her
29:55
Speaker 1: own money, been very independent, had her own businesses. I
29:58
Speaker 1: know they don't really talk about that on the show much,
30:01
Speaker 1: but you and I used to work together a lot.
30:03
Speaker 1: She's always been an entrepreneur and an independent person, and
30:07
Speaker 1: so you can always take care of yourself. You don't
30:09
Speaker 1: need a man.
30:10
Speaker 2: So that's not and I never and so you know,
30:13
Speaker 2: which is very funny. So I have never been with
30:16
Speaker 2: a man because of his financial position and how much
30:19
Speaker 2: money he's had. Never and I've had prenuptials with both
30:23
Speaker 2: of my husbands. That's true with Todd and with Herman.
30:27
Speaker 2: So if you saw it, you would definitely see that
30:29
Speaker 2: I'm not a gold digger. And now I haven't been
30:31
Speaker 2: with any of them for their money. And many of the.
30:33
Speaker 1: Things you have you buy, you buy yourself from me.
30:35
Speaker 2: I remember the relationship already with money because Herman had
30:38
Speaker 2: left me a life insurance when he passed away. And
30:41
Speaker 2: my kids are trust so you know it had nothing
30:43
Speaker 2: to do with that. But people are always you know,
30:46
Speaker 2: quick to say, oh yeah, because you know this, that
30:48
Speaker 2: and the other. And I even even think about Lisa
30:51
Speaker 2: so much because she gets such as well yeah, and
30:54
Speaker 2: I'm like, people don't understand that when you love the
30:58
Speaker 2: person like and it's a it's an emotional stability. Even
31:02
Speaker 2: if you know you fight or whatever it may be,
31:04
Speaker 2: the dynamics of your relationship is you're like attached to
31:07
Speaker 2: them psychologically, it's a lot. It's like you're co dependent,
31:11
Speaker 2: and it's this emotional stability. So I'm more scared of
31:14
Speaker 2: that lack of like emotional stability than the financialstability, because
31:20
Speaker 2: I know I can make money, and I know that
31:21
Speaker 2: I work, and I know that I have a good
31:23
Speaker 2: income and I know what I have, so I'm good
31:25
Speaker 2: with that. But it's like that emotional psychological stability.
31:29
Speaker 1: Course, it doesn't matter if you have money, you don't
31:33
Speaker 1: have money, or you live in a thatch hut with
31:35
Speaker 1: a mud floor underneath you emotional connection with another human
31:40
Speaker 1: being and then they're no longer there that even if
31:43
Speaker 1: it's death.
31:44
Speaker 2: It was like er my rug, like all of a sudden,
31:46
Speaker 2: what how you say that pull a rug out from
31:49
Speaker 2: under you.
31:49
Speaker 1: But even like when somebody dies that you you're close to,
31:53
Speaker 1: you lost that emotional attachment, that person is no longer there,
31:56
Speaker 1: you have a right say that.
31:59
Speaker 2: Is a lot like death because it's a loss and
32:02
Speaker 2: you need to grieve it. And I think it's even
32:05
Speaker 2: worse because you know the death. You know they're not
32:08
Speaker 2: there physically anymore. So it's easier because you're not seeing
32:12
Speaker 2: the person, you're not talking to them. You don't have
32:15
Speaker 2: to gut it. Does there are different things. I unfortunately
32:19
Speaker 2: have gone through both of them. Absolutely, so I can
32:21
Speaker 2: speak because I've been in both and it's a different
32:24
Speaker 2: kind of loss, but their losses and you need to
32:28
Speaker 2: heal from them absolutely. And you know, like I said,
32:31
Speaker 2: it's been three weeks on my healing journey.
32:35
Speaker 1: Well you look gorgeous, and you know you lost eight pounds.
32:39
Speaker 2: It's you're killing it. But anyways, but I am on
32:43
Speaker 2: my healing journey, and you know, I I'm very fortunate,
32:48
Speaker 2: like I was saying, because I have so many friends
32:51
Speaker 2: that are like my family, and and that's the only
32:57
Speaker 2: way where I can do this. This is the I mean, honestly,
33:00
Speaker 2: the support system that I have. I'm very, very lucky.
33:03
Speaker 2: And I tell all my friends every day thank you.
33:06
Speaker 2: You know, they all call me. They've offered everything from homes,
33:10
Speaker 2: to cars, to trips, to to everything everything.
33:16
Speaker 5: So see that's home, cars and trips. We needs a
33:21
Speaker 5: man exactly. So they've offered men too, but are the
33:26
Speaker 5: greatest thing in the world. We need a friend with.
33:29
Speaker 2: It wasn't anything, not only no, but you know what's
33:32
Speaker 2: more important that the love that they have for me
33:35
Speaker 2: and my boys. You know, they've been in my life
33:38
Speaker 2: in my happiest moments and my slightest moments, and they've
33:42
Speaker 2: been there for years.
33:44
Speaker 1: Anyone who's been here long enough seen.
33:46
Speaker 2: It all exactly.
33:48
Speaker 1: I'm a lifer, right, I've seen it all to twenty
33:52
Speaker 1: four years.
33:53
Speaker 2: Y'all do something. A lot of people don't have this, right,
33:56
Speaker 2: you don't have aren't fortunate that way. And I think
33:59
Speaker 2: that that's why I can be with you here today,
34:01
Speaker 2: because you've helped me tremendously for three weeks. Every single
34:04
Speaker 2: day I would have to come here tomorrow for that event.
34:08
Speaker 2: By myself, I wouldn't have come. Oh no, you know,
34:11
Speaker 2: I just couldn't have done it now. But you know,
34:13
Speaker 2: because of you, Because like my friends, you know who
34:16
Speaker 2: you are. There's so many of you, but you know,
34:20
Speaker 2: and there's a few here in the room as well.
34:23
Speaker 2: And I think it's just such an important, you know,
34:29
Speaker 2: thing to have absolutely in your life because and you know,
34:33
Speaker 2: I never got you know, even though I was married,
34:35
Speaker 2: I always kept my friends. And that's the best advice
34:38
Speaker 2: that I can give. Like any of them, you kept
34:40
Speaker 2: them separate. No, I mean I tried to mix some,
34:44
Speaker 2: I kept them separate. I kept them each on every way,
34:47
Speaker 2: you know, because to me, my friends, you know, I
34:50
Speaker 2: choose my friends. You can't choose your family, but you
34:52
Speaker 2: choose your friends. So for me, friendship has always been
34:55
Speaker 2: so important. My mom had so many friends because my
34:58
Speaker 2: mom was an only child, so she always which is
35:01
Speaker 2: a half brother, and but she didn't grow up with him,
35:05
Speaker 2: so she was always her friends just like you, yeah,
35:07
Speaker 2: kind of like you. For her, friends were always so important.
35:10
Speaker 2: So she always taught me that you needed to have friends.
35:14
Speaker 2: And my friends have been my friends for like the
35:16
Speaker 2: last twenty years.
35:17
Speaker 1: I actually, in my last breakup, I had to cut
35:21
Speaker 1: a lot of people out of my life because sometimes
35:23
Speaker 1: maybe I'll have to do that too. Sometimes, you know,
35:27
Speaker 1: when you come mingle friends in a relationship, they choose
35:31
Speaker 1: the exs or they choose you. They all have to
35:34
Speaker 1: make you know, you have to make a choice, and
35:35
Speaker 1: you end up losing friends. But I feel like you
35:38
Speaker 1: kept it kind of separate and you'll be okay. I
35:41
Speaker 1: had a mass exodus that I had to make for myself.
35:45
Speaker 2: Well used to.
35:45
Speaker 1: Cutting people out of my life.
35:47
Speaker 2: Well I think so too, because those weren't really your friends.
35:49
Speaker 2: So my friends have proven to me throughout the years.
35:52
Speaker 2: Remember I went through a divorce with herman, and it
35:54
Speaker 2: was kind of like the same set of friends. Yeah,
35:57
Speaker 2: I mean yes and no, but they both loved us
36:02
Speaker 2: and they both liked us, so they were like, you
36:03
Speaker 2: know what. But besides that, it was like a different
36:05
Speaker 2: kind of Yeah.
36:06
Speaker 1: He would have never said to anyone, you know, I
36:10
Speaker 1: wasn't that person.
36:11
Speaker 2: I think you should be put in that position. And
36:13
Speaker 2: I'm really not worried about that anyways, because like I said,
36:16
Speaker 2: my friends are my friends, you know for so many years.
36:19
Speaker 1: Well, I'm not going to hang out with talk, so
36:21
Speaker 1: don't worry about that.
36:22
Speaker 2: Are you going to follow him? Follow LARSA? Said up,
36:25
Speaker 2: who's them following him?
36:27
Speaker 6: Oh?
36:27
Speaker 2: Should your friends follow your ex? Well?
36:31
Speaker 1: I mean that's next, that's next podcast, next podcast. So
36:42
Speaker 1: let's talk about some more fun stuff because.
36:44
Speaker 2: We got out with forward. Because okay, so I don't
36:47
Speaker 2: want to cry anymore. I'm in New York City, the
36:50
Speaker 2: day is beautiful here, and you have a bit of
36:54
Speaker 2: a fascination with nudity and pornography. So let's just hump
36:58
Speaker 2: into that. You're already smiling. Yeah, you always get to smiling.
37:03
Speaker 2: You are my friends. You are one of my friends.
37:06
Speaker 2: That always makes me laugh. Have you ever been to
37:09
Speaker 2: a nude beach? Bro? Actually have with Todd? What did
37:12
Speaker 2: you guys get naked?
37:14
Speaker 1: No?
37:15
Speaker 2: Did you know that? The naked thing? It was so
37:17
Speaker 2: fun because you know, we live in Sunnyisles, so we
37:19
Speaker 2: would walk in Hollandale Beach, the number one nude beach. No, yes,
37:24
Speaker 2: it's in Hollandale, so you know we were. This was
37:27
Speaker 2: like in the beginning, Oh sorry, Halover, Hollover, same thing
37:31
Speaker 2: starts with an h oh, okay, Hollover.
37:34
Speaker 1: Oh I just shook down the whole Hollandale neighborhood. That
37:36
Speaker 1: zip code.
37:37
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Hollandale it's Hallover. Okay, their apartment's so weird.
37:42
Speaker 2: Now down the real estate Hallovers in Sunny Aisles, which
37:46
Speaker 2: is like prime real estate, and they allow that there,
37:48
Speaker 2: which is fine because because it was there before the
37:52
Speaker 2: prime real estate arrive. Right, you talk at Marco Polo
37:54
Speaker 2: Hotel and Marco you know, all those other stuff.
38:01
Speaker 1: But we have a bartender here. Mama needs a refail
38:05
Speaker 1: and so yeah.
38:07
Speaker 2: So actually the first time, well, I used to go
38:09
Speaker 2: to Europe, which obviously is on nud beach. They have
38:12
Speaker 2: nude beaches. Everyone really topless, you know, back in the
38:16
Speaker 2: day when I was either way.
38:18
Speaker 1: I've seeing some sad ass titties on the beaches of Europe.
38:21
Speaker 2: Of course, why would you do it, because they don't
38:24
Speaker 2: do implants, I know, like the US, you know, like Miami.
38:27
Speaker 2: Of course you'll come here to the nude beach and
38:29
Speaker 2: everybody's tits are perfect, I know, but I saw some drippy,
38:32
Speaker 2: poopy boobs.
38:33
Speaker 7: You know.
38:33
Speaker 2: They do it for what else?
38:35
Speaker 7: Health?
38:36
Speaker 2: Yes, D three Vitamin D. Vitamin D is good for
38:40
Speaker 2: the rest and it lifts the back up. No, that
38:43
Speaker 2: that's guy that would need a lot more than vitamin D. Okay, beatal, Yeah,
38:47
Speaker 2: they do it because it's more like health and you know,
38:50
Speaker 2: it's just a culture. It's a cultural thing.
38:52
Speaker 1: Yeah, pertaining topless when I moved. Let me ask you something,
38:57
Speaker 1: and I'm sure you might agree with me. I'm just guessing.
39:00
Speaker 1: Why is it always the people that shouldn't be naked
39:03
Speaker 1: or naked?
39:04
Speaker 2: Why? You know, because they're free not complain hold, they
39:06
Speaker 2: don't have any complexes. The people that have like the
39:08
Speaker 2: perfect bodies, they're like, oh wait, I have two apps,
39:11
Speaker 2: not four, So I'm gonna leave on my shirt because
39:14
Speaker 2: I'm fat. So the guy that's already or the woman
39:17
Speaker 2: that really doesn't care about her physique and about what
39:20
Speaker 2: her body looks like, she's the first one to take
39:22
Speaker 2: off for clothes.
39:24
Speaker 6: Oh yeah. And then the ones I have the perfect body,
39:26
Speaker 6: they're like, oh my god, Vina, like I have like
39:28
Speaker 6: a little like dimple here, like I have a little
39:31
Speaker 6: bit of cellul like and then mind you, the other
39:33
Speaker 6: one is like yeah.
39:35
Speaker 1: And then the fat is of the tiniest pepy and
39:37
Speaker 1: then they go in the cold water and it's becomes inverted,
39:40
Speaker 1: like why would you you.
39:41
Speaker 2: Look that much to see all these deals details?
39:43
Speaker 1: Like why would you take your pants if you look
39:45
Speaker 1: like you have a clitterist and not a penis, Like,
39:47
Speaker 1: why would you take your pants off?
39:49
Speaker 2: Exactly complain. I think that that's for.
39:54
Speaker 1: If I had a negative pepy.
39:57
Speaker 2: But have you been? It looks like you've been and
40:02
Speaker 2: you and you stuck. It looks like it like you.
40:05
Speaker 1: I've been to Europe many times, but I mean here
40:07
Speaker 1: and all over. Oh no, no, no no. I went
40:10
Speaker 1: with Kelly, my child childhood friend that you know. She
40:15
Speaker 1: said to me one day because she was always crazy.
40:17
Speaker 1: She took she dived into the seaquarium late at night
40:21
Speaker 1: and swam with the killer whales without fear. She would
40:24
Speaker 1: jump up, could climb all the way to the top
40:26
Speaker 1: of the water tower and tell everyone to come. She
40:29
Speaker 1: would do the craziest ship. One day she says to me,
40:32
Speaker 1: let's go to the nude beach, Like there's a nude
40:34
Speaker 1: beach on the key, and.
40:35
Speaker 2: She goes, yeah, I remember on the key, yeah yeah.
40:37
Speaker 1: And keep skating until we went to the nude beach.
40:39
Speaker 1: We were in her little rabbit convertible. She was so funny.
40:42
Speaker 1: Her car had a siren on it and she'd flipped
40:45
Speaker 1: the switch and pulled people hot guys over and they
40:47
Speaker 1: would pull over and we were the Rabbit convertible without.
40:50
Speaker 2: A siren, but she had a siren.
40:51
Speaker 1: Built into the car and it go whoa.
40:54
Speaker 2: She like pull out.
40:55
Speaker 1: People would pull over and then she'd just get their
40:57
Speaker 1: phone number.
40:58
Speaker 2: But she was crazy. I thought. We used to pick
41:00
Speaker 2: up guys back by the way. Well, there were no apps,
41:03
Speaker 2: there was no Instagram, there was no Tinder.
41:07
Speaker 1: Apps, and tell people they're in trouble, you pat them
41:09
Speaker 1: down and if the pad down felt good, you got
41:11
Speaker 1: their number.
41:12
Speaker 2: Anyway, so we went to the new beach. She's like,
41:15
Speaker 2: let's go, and I said, okay.
41:17
Speaker 1: I was always like a deer in headlights for there
41:20
Speaker 1: because I didn't know what she was going to camp with.
41:21
Speaker 1: So we go to the new beach and there's it
41:24
Speaker 1: was like, so we don't have to go back after
41:27
Speaker 1: it's finished the story, because I don't want time to think.
41:29
Speaker 2: Oh, like we went to the nude beach like nude,
41:31
Speaker 2: Like I have to tell you my story. Okay, yeah,
41:33
Speaker 2: I don't want to get sued for that. This is
41:35
Speaker 2: quite humorous to me.
41:37
Speaker 1: So do you remember the old masks that people would
41:40
Speaker 1: like go swimming and snorkel with And the.
41:43
Speaker 8: Mask was big mouse, It was big and oval, and
41:46
Speaker 8: it was a big like glass and it was all
41:49
Speaker 8: one of the Okay, so we got there and there's
41:53
Speaker 8: a guy coming out of the water and he had
41:55
Speaker 8: the mask strapped around his waist and all his junk
41:58
Speaker 8: was pressed up into the.
42:00
Speaker 2: Glass of the mask. His testicles is peabeach. I don't
42:05
Speaker 2: know you wanted to look whoa? Because I was fascinated.
42:08
Speaker 2: I'm like, how'd you get that all in?
42:10
Speaker 1: There?
42:10
Speaker 2: Is that your where your fascination of penises comes from? Well,
42:13
Speaker 2: what's your childhood trauma? Fascination of penises come from? Where?
42:18
Speaker 2: You're definitely not from a nude beach. Yeah, I was, yeah,
42:21
Speaker 2: and evident. It's so hard to hear it hadus yeah.
42:25
Speaker 1: Because you're like, why would you be naked, put a
42:27
Speaker 1: mamo on, throw a glass off, get.
42:30
Speaker 2: The hell out of here? Where do you think people
42:32
Speaker 2: look up more guys at a nude beach or women
42:34
Speaker 2: at a new beach. I couldn't keep my eyes off
42:37
Speaker 2: any of it. It was like, whoa. So I feel
42:41
Speaker 2: that men and women look more at men because I've
42:48
Speaker 2: seen it. I've seen like guys and there, and it
42:50
Speaker 2: doesn't even have to do anything with sexuality. It's just
42:53
Speaker 2: like people are more curious, and I guess because it's
42:55
Speaker 2: more like stranger, right, it's more unique to see like
42:58
Speaker 2: a penis versus like a boob.
43:01
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I mean that would fascinate me more.
43:04
Speaker 2: No, I feel like I've seen like straight guys looking
43:07
Speaker 2: at guys, you know what I mean. I think it's
43:09
Speaker 2: just like a penis thing, Like everybody wants to look
43:10
Speaker 2: at the penis.
43:11
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I love a It's very fascinating tool. Right,
43:15
Speaker 1: really is one of the most sot too funny. God
43:18
Speaker 1: Creaty and I were, you.
43:20
Speaker 2: Know, we lived in there in sunny House whatever, and
43:22
Speaker 2: he knew about how over beach, so he's like, you know,
43:24
Speaker 2: we used to walk on the beach. So he's like, oh,
43:26
Speaker 2: let's just walk like a little bit this way. So
43:28
Speaker 2: we keep on walking. But he knew exactly the day,
43:32
Speaker 2: and I had forgotten that I hadn't like been in
43:34
Speaker 2: Sonny House for such a long time that I had
43:35
Speaker 2: forgotten that there was a new beach there. And we
43:38
Speaker 2: just start walking. He doesn't tell me anything, and I
43:40
Speaker 2: like start looking at people and I'm like, oh my god, babe,
43:43
Speaker 2: look at that guy.
43:44
Speaker 1: He's naked.
43:45
Speaker 2: And he's like I'm like oh my god, look at
43:47
Speaker 2: that girl. But by the way, there were so many
43:48
Speaker 2: more men than women. So that's why I'm saying, I
43:51
Speaker 2: don't know, it's like that men like to have it
43:52
Speaker 2: like you know, hang lately.
43:53
Speaker 9: It's like a like whatever, a cruising spot. It's a
43:56
Speaker 9: cruising spot, right, I mean it could be that. I
43:59
Speaker 9: mean there were some women, but again I was just
44:01
Speaker 9: looking at the guys, and he was like, oh, like,
44:03
Speaker 9: don't keep on looking, because I.
44:05
Speaker 2: Wanted to look at every single guys.
44:06
Speaker 1: I find it quite interesting that then I would look
44:09
Speaker 1: in the front.
44:10
Speaker 2: Calet me finish my thought. The plus, he always had
44:15
Speaker 2: an excellent tan okay, stopping. Todd never went there, and
44:22
Speaker 2: actually all there was like noha guys, So I would
44:26
Speaker 2: never go there. But no, but it was fun. So
44:28
Speaker 2: him and I went as good to be the big
44:30
Speaker 2: fish in a little pond. Huh, leave Todd alone, talk
44:36
Speaker 2: about Steve.
44:39
Speaker 1: Took me to a new beach.
44:40
Speaker 2: He didn't take me. We were walking and we lived
44:43
Speaker 2: next door under we lived. We lived next door, and
44:47
Speaker 2: it was just cool. We're walking on the beach and
44:49
Speaker 2: he knew exactly that we were approaching all over and
44:52
Speaker 2: we're walking like towards the bridge, and all of a
44:54
Speaker 2: sudden he could see my face. You know, I'm trying
44:56
Speaker 2: not to look, but I'm looking at it light up
44:59
Speaker 2: and all of a sudden, I know, because I didn't
45:01
Speaker 2: even know. I had forgotten about how over. So I
45:03
Speaker 2: was like, oh my god, that guy's naked. And then
45:04
Speaker 2: I looked again. The guy's nagging, and we're like, what's
45:06
Speaker 2: going on? Everybody's naked here. So we were like I
45:08
Speaker 2: was in my beginning, he was in his in his
45:11
Speaker 2: bathing suit, would.
45:12
Speaker 1: You but we thought we want to lay out naked,
45:14
Speaker 1: even if everyone's laying out.
45:16
Speaker 2: I would do it like alone with talk now with
45:18
Speaker 2: other people, like I would do it like with him
45:20
Speaker 2: like in Europe, you know, like on a boat or
45:22
Speaker 2: you know something like that. Okay, on a beach with
45:25
Speaker 2: other people. No, not really. And would you take it
45:30
Speaker 2: all off or just your top? My top for sure? Yeah, yeah,
45:33
Speaker 2: I could take off my top, like you don't want
45:35
Speaker 2: to burn the goods down, you know down there. I
45:38
Speaker 2: think it's like a little weird, you know, maybe like
45:40
Speaker 2: a little little tiny like g I mean, you go
45:42
Speaker 2: to the beach here anyways, and all the beaches in
45:44
Speaker 2: Miami looks like a nude beach because all their asses
45:46
Speaker 2: are out, It's true, you know, and all the boobs
45:48
Speaker 2: are out and whatever. So you know what, It's kind
45:50
Speaker 2: of like every beach is a nude beach nowadays. But
45:53
Speaker 2: it is funny and it's it is entertaining to like
45:56
Speaker 2: walk by it and see like so many people naked
46:00
Speaker 2: at the same time, and they all have a great tan.
46:02
Speaker 2: That's why I said, you know, you know, I'm not
46:06
Speaker 2: going to.
46:06
Speaker 1: Say that name.
46:07
Speaker 2: They're gonna threw you bro, not me.
46:09
Speaker 1: Yeah, who's gonna assume he had a good tan?
46:11
Speaker 2: And he knew where the new six is that going
46:13
Speaker 2: to come out of page six? That's going to be
46:15
Speaker 2: the headlight. That's going to be the headlights? You said,
46:18
Speaker 2: not me. It's a grand poola hall over me.
46:23
Speaker 1: All right, let's let's just say nude is going public.
46:29
Speaker 2: Norwegian cruise lines get them on the wins.
46:32
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46:44
Speaker 2: Pearl La La La La. It's set sail in twenty
46:51
Speaker 2: twenty five.
46:52
Speaker 1: It's an eleven. Yes, I got the deacon. Did you
46:54
Speaker 1: book that already?
46:55
Speaker 6: No?
46:55
Speaker 2: Man, that's not for me. It's a right voyage throughout
46:58
Speaker 2: the caravan in days days.
47:01
Speaker 1: You know, can suitcases? Oh my god, listen, you know
47:05
Speaker 1: we're gonna make money with like a soothing sun block
47:09
Speaker 1: for penises, because soothing a soothing sun block?
47:14
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, how you're going to have your people imagine
47:17
Speaker 2: like applying it and like yeah, that's weird.
47:19
Speaker 10: Well, they might have appliers on the ship that might
47:22
Speaker 10: be like a whole other service so they can make
47:25
Speaker 10: money on. We need to go on there and help
47:26
Speaker 10: them with their marketing. Think about the cruise ship workers.
47:31
Speaker 2: Oh my god, Yeah, that's too much for me. I
47:35
Speaker 2: can't Yeah, so you wouldn't do that. I definitely would
47:39
Speaker 2: not do that.
47:39
Speaker 1: I wonder who they market do they? Who are they
47:42
Speaker 1: marketing for this crazy local people?
47:46
Speaker 2: Yeah? Right, and it's maybe like that's on their bucket
47:49
Speaker 2: list or like like a free experience, but like maybe
47:52
Speaker 2: one day. This is an eleven day cruise, right, Like
47:55
Speaker 2: who's going to be naked for eleven days? Naked? And wait,
47:59
Speaker 2: how many passengers? So how many oh those cruise ships?
48:02
Speaker 2: Are you like five thousand people? Well? I don't know,
48:05
Speaker 2: I would say at least two thousand. Where do you
48:07
Speaker 2: find two thousand people that want to hang out naked
48:09
Speaker 2: for eleven days straight in Miami? Is that? Where? Is that?
48:13
Speaker 1: Where it should be an only fans ship and everyone's
48:17
Speaker 1: just you know, getting content.
48:18
Speaker 2: It's a whole little it's a little. If you want
48:20
Speaker 2: to talk about OnlyFans, you do it. I'm just saying
48:23
Speaker 2: it's up today. It's crazy thought.
48:26
Speaker 1: So, so do you think, like, how would you feel
48:29
Speaker 1: that your waiter serves you his food naked and your
48:33
Speaker 1: bar turner makes you is.
48:35
Speaker 2: In order a hot dog? I ordered a burger.
48:38
Speaker 1: Exactly, okay? And why are you starting my drink with
48:41
Speaker 1: your unit type of thing?
48:44
Speaker 2: Right? I would do these requirements you have to have
48:48
Speaker 2: it like a certain size or oh my, a certain way.
48:51
Speaker 2: What about the women too? I think that's gross. Honestly,
48:54
Speaker 2: that's gross. Is your reader really.
48:55
Speaker 1: Doing this or not pulling your leg? It's all over
48:58
Speaker 1: the internet.
48:59
Speaker 2: You haven't seen it? Oh I am? But is that
49:01
Speaker 2: even allowed? I thought there was like a lot or something. Now,
49:04
Speaker 2: so what do you think the least people swingers going
49:06
Speaker 2: on these shay they're like they're they're so liberal and
49:10
Speaker 2: they go topless and blah blah blah. And then in America.
49:13
Speaker 2: We're having ships out of Miami. But you know, Chips,
49:17
Speaker 2: you know, a nude cruise is code for swinging. It's
49:21
Speaker 2: a swing ship. It's oh yeah, you know, everything goes.
49:25
Speaker 2: I mean, if you if you can be naked around
49:29
Speaker 2: two thousand other people, of course they're going to do everything.
49:33
Speaker 2: And do you think they go to dinner naked too,
49:35
Speaker 2: and go to like the General, like the bar, or
49:40
Speaker 2: like that big slopper. I mean, I get it to
49:43
Speaker 2: fool like the four the Chakuzie. Okay, if you want
49:46
Speaker 2: to go and naked. I mean it's so gross because
49:48
Speaker 2: you know, everybody peas there and the whole thing. But
49:50
Speaker 2: it's so gross. But imagine at the restaurant everybody's sitting
49:53
Speaker 2: and everybody's like naked, right, And what about people that
49:56
Speaker 2: aren't groomed. Grooming is a high of high importance to me,
50:01
Speaker 2: Like it's a fifteen off, so little veil. They're not
50:04
Speaker 2: going to be of their European they're not going to
50:05
Speaker 2: be groomed. Yeah, in some countries more than others.
50:09
Speaker 1: No, of course, Well that's not gonna be part of
50:11
Speaker 1: your dating repertoire at all.
50:13
Speaker 2: I have plans for Alexia, and it's not going on
50:16
Speaker 2: that cruise.
50:17
Speaker 1: No, absolutely not, absolutely not, And you're not going to
50:20
Speaker 1: get a job there either because you don't need it.
50:29
Speaker 2: Well, my friend, this has been so fun. Thank you
50:32
Speaker 2: for making me laugh. I always do after all of
50:36
Speaker 2: my crying. You honestly, you really bring so much stoy
50:40
Speaker 2: in my life. What can I tell you?
50:43
Speaker 1: And you make me laugh, you make me giggle, I
50:46
Speaker 1: make myself giggle.
50:47
Speaker 2: You make me forget about everything else that's going on.
50:50
Speaker 2: I forget about everything going on too, and then you
50:52
Speaker 2: have to remind me arantine we're a good team. Yeah,
50:57
Speaker 2: maybe we should go on a cruise, but not that
50:59
Speaker 2: kind of a cruise.
51:00
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, all right, I'll work on that.
51:03
Speaker 10: Yes, listen, if you're like a high end cruise line
51:06
Speaker 10: and you want to sponsor me and bro, like it's
51:09
Speaker 10: Carlton Cruises or.
51:11
Speaker 2: For celebrity Royal Caribbean.
51:14
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, anything, but we want a cruise with people
51:21
Speaker 1: that work clothes.
51:22
Speaker 2: Yeah, clothing clothing required. Uh huh.
51:28
Speaker 7: All right, everyone, thanks for listening, Thank you, Thanks much, wrong,
51:32
Speaker 7: thank you, and I know this is very hard for you,
51:34
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Speaker 2: On my Instagram in real life, not on my Instagram.
51:43
Speaker 2: I don't know you. You don't know you, so the
51:45
Speaker 2: only one that can allow you come up to me
51:47
Speaker 2: and whatever. Just be kind, not only to me, I
51:50
Speaker 2: want everybody to just be kind to every kind to
51:52
Speaker 2: one another.
51:53
Speaker 1: You never know what.
51:54
Speaker 2: People are going through in their lives. You know, you
51:56
Speaker 2: never really know the truth. You don't live with us,
51:59
Speaker 2: you know, just like you know, be even us here
52:01
Speaker 2: that we talk about other people. You know, this like
52:04
Speaker 2: our job because it's hot topics, and sometimes you know,
52:07
Speaker 2: we have to talk about other customs. Sometimes we're heartless
52:09
Speaker 2: and ruthless. You know. I tend to not be you know,
52:14
Speaker 2: so judgmental, mad my opinion, but you know, I don't
52:18
Speaker 2: like to hurt people. So you know, just be thoughtful,
52:21
Speaker 2: you know, be kind.
52:22
Speaker 1: We're all we're all out here hurt, and we're all
52:25
Speaker 1: out here human. Right, all right, everyone, thanks so much
52:28
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