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Episode One Hundred Eighty Seven: 2016 Revisited · The Death Of Journalism

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Speaker 1: Welcome to episode number one hundred and eighty seven of
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Speaker 1: the Death of Journalism podcast.
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Speaker 2: My name is John Zickler. I'm your host of today's show.
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Speaker 1: Kamala Harris puts on a new accent that should be
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Speaker 1: seen as insulting to black people.
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Speaker 2: But we don't live in a rational media world.
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Speaker 1: Why Trump fans are wrong to think that this selection
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Speaker 1: will be twenty sixteen all over again, And strong evidence
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Speaker 1: that long simmering rumors of CNN.
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Speaker 2: Moving to the middle are very likely false.
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Speaker 1: I often say that the greatest power of the news
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Speaker 1: media in this very fragmented age is to ignore stories
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Speaker 1: that they don't find helpful. Related to that, I often
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Speaker 1: say that it's not what gets reported in this era
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Speaker 1: that matters, it's what gets repeated in the modern age
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Speaker 1: that wins the day. Because we are so fragmented, and
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Speaker 1: our attention spans are so and so many people really
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Speaker 1: are isolated from real news unless they are bombarded with
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Speaker 1: it by the mainstream news media. There may be no
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Speaker 1: better recent example of that phenomenon than what is happening
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Speaker 1: or what is not happening with regard to something that
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Speaker 1: happened on Labor Day, with regard to Kamala Harris and
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Speaker 1: her pension for changing her accent based upon the crowd.
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Speaker 2: To which she is speaking.
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Speaker 1: Now, we've talked about this previously, so this is not
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Speaker 1: a one off. This is not an isolated situation. She
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Speaker 1: did this a few weeks ago in Georgia to a
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Speaker 1: mostly black and obviously Southern crowd in Georgia. But then
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Speaker 1: she did it again in Detroit, and on the same
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Speaker 1: day she went to Pittsburgh and the accent was gone,
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Speaker 1: and this wasn't just a slight accent.
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Speaker 2: And I remember, and we were already.
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Speaker 1: Previewed that we're going to talk about the twenty sixteen
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Speaker 1: election a bit in this episode. You know, Hillary Clinton
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Speaker 1: got rightfully destroyed for putting on what seemed to be
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Speaker 1: a Southern and or a quote unquote black accent.
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Speaker 2: I ain't in no ways tired, remember.
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Speaker 1: That, and she got absolutely crushed for that, rightfully. So well,
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Speaker 1: this was I think more dramatic than what Hillary Clinton
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Speaker 1: did even the first time in Georgia, and I think
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Speaker 1: even more so when she did it in Detroit. And
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Speaker 1: I do think it's important to point out this was
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Speaker 1: a mostly black audience in Detroit, obviously Detroit, Michigan not
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Speaker 1: a southern state Pittsburgh. I was not able to get
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Speaker 1: a good look at the crowd, but I'm guessing the
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Speaker 1: crowd was not nearly as quote unquote black as the
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Speaker 1: crowd in Detroit would have been, and that would be
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Speaker 1: the explanation for why, all of a sudden, this new
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Speaker 1: Kamala Harris accent did not exist in Pittsburgh. Now, it's
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Speaker 1: quite possible you, because you are a avid news consumer,
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Speaker 1: being a subscriber to this podcast, you are already very
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Speaker 1: much aware that this happened. My guess is that the
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Speaker 1: vast majority of the American people are not, especially the
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Speaker 1: swing voters in this coming election, are not, because this
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Speaker 1: has not gotten very much mainstream news media coverage at all.
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Speaker 2: There have been a few videos.
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Speaker 1: That have gone viral on Twitter and TikTok, but by
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Speaker 1: and large, I don't think this has gotten anything close
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Speaker 1: to saturation coverage, nowhere near what it deserves, nowhere near
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Speaker 1: what it would get if the Republican candidate was very
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Speaker 1: poorly known, was a brand new entity for all intentsive
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Speaker 1: purposes to the American people, had come out of nowhere
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Speaker 1: to be handed denomination.
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Speaker 2: So Trump, you know.
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Speaker 1: For better, for worse, is obviously an extremely well known entity,
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Speaker 1: and you know, sometimes to his advantage, he can do
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Speaker 1: crazy things that don't get coverage, that don't make a
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Speaker 1: mark that would ordinarily, So I'm the first to acknowledge it.
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Speaker 1: He does have an advantage in that way. But Harris
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Speaker 1: is reaping all sorts of advantages for being then the
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Speaker 1: shiny new object. Well, part of being the shiny new
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Speaker 1: object is we don't know who she really is.
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Speaker 2: I don't even feel like I know who she really is.
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Speaker 1: And I've been watching her here in California for a
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Speaker 1: lot longer time than most people have nationally. And so therefore,
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Speaker 1: if somebody is putting on fake accents for particular crowds,
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Speaker 1: and you know, there's even a phrase that liberals have
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Speaker 1: tried to adopt to excuse this, called code switching, which
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Speaker 1: is just insane, like somehow this is justified because you
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Speaker 1: just tried to relate to your audience. Well, in this
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Speaker 1: particular case, especially given the fact that the audience happens
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Speaker 1: to be black an, a rational person could conclude that
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Speaker 1: this is demeaning to black people, insulting to black people,
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Speaker 1: and certainly would be if a white Republican ever tried
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Speaker 1: to do something like this, it would be universally mocked
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Speaker 1: and probably rightfully so. But despite the fact that you're
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Speaker 1: probably already were this, I want to play a couple
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Speaker 1: of clips here. The way we're going to do this.
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Speaker 1: We're going to play I.
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Speaker 2: Think, two clips from the Detroit.
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Speaker 1: Rally that she did, and then combine it with a
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Speaker 1: clip where she's saying basically the same thing about Labor
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Speaker 1: Day in Pittsburgh, and all of a sudden the accent
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Speaker 1: is gone.
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Speaker 2: But just to be.
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Speaker 1: Crystal clear that this is not an exaggeration, not a
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Speaker 1: made up story, that this is extremely real and very
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Speaker 1: very obvious and incredibly mockable if the news media had
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Speaker 1: any inclination to do so. Here's what that sounded like
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Speaker 1: in two different events from Kamala Harris on Labor Day,
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Speaker 1: Let's just get through.
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Speaker 3: The next sixty four days. You better thank a union
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Speaker 3: member for sicklyve. You better thank a union member for
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Speaker 3: paid leave. You better thank a union member for vacation time.
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Speaker 3: Bank unions p sicktly, bank unions for paid family leave.
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Speaker 2: Thank unions for your vacation time. Now that's completely ridiculous.
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Speaker 1: I mean, that's the type of thing that hits people
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Speaker 1: between the eyes. The average voter has nothing really to
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Speaker 1: do with policy. It's just about whether or not you're
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Speaker 1: an authentic human being. And when you're introducing yourself to
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Speaker 1: the American public as potentially the first female president, that
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Speaker 1: auto matter, and I truly believe that would matter. I'm
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Speaker 1: a type of person that thinks that this is the
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Speaker 1: kind of issue, unfortunately, that really does have an impact
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Speaker 1: in this modern media age. You may notice I rarely
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Speaker 1: talk about how policy positions are going to impact the election.
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Speaker 1: They may on the fringes, and I certainly think the
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Speaker 1: abortion issue works against Republicans right now, and the economy
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Speaker 1: is not working against Democrats as much as it should.
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Speaker 1: But by and large, I think we're now living in
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Speaker 1: you know, the movie ideocracy, where the best we can
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Speaker 1: do is issues of personality and authenticity actually really mattering.
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Speaker 1: And it matters in an extraordinary way in this situation,
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Speaker 1: because Harris is being quote unquote reintroduced or in my opinion,
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Speaker 1: introduced for the first time to the vast majority of Americans,
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Speaker 1: and because her personal approval ratings.
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Speaker 2: Are why she is currently leading Trump.
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Speaker 1: I've said that before, but I don't know that I
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Speaker 1: have emphasized it enough that Trump leads on a lot
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Speaker 1: of the major issues other than abortion and a couple
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Speaker 1: of others, but it has not impacted or had that
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Speaker 1: much of an impact on the polling numbers, both nationally
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Speaker 1: and in the critical swing states, because her approval rating,
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Speaker 1: all of a sudden is much better than Donald Trump's,
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Speaker 1: and there are a whole lot of reasons for that,
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Speaker 1: but I don't think that it is anywhere near as
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Speaker 1: set in stone her approval ratings as Trump's are Trump's. Basically,
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Speaker 1: you know that you're not going to change opinion about
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Speaker 1: Donald Trump at this point. You can change opinion about
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Speaker 1: Kamala Harris. And you know, I'm somebody who's in the
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Speaker 1: camp that is going to be difficult.
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Speaker 2: There are many Trump.
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Speaker 1: Fans who think it's going to be incredibly easy. They
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Speaker 1: think that as soon as the American public gets a
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Speaker 1: whiff of the real Kamala Harris, they're gonna be repulsed
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Speaker 1: and Trump's gonna, all of a sudden be in a
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Speaker 1: commanding position here.
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Speaker 2: I am not convinced of that.
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Speaker 1: Partially because of the news media and partially because of
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Speaker 1: the lack of intelligence of the average American voter, especially
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Speaker 1: the average American voter that hasn't made up.
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Speaker 2: Their mind yet.
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Speaker 1: And so, but so, even though I'm in that camp
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Speaker 1: that this is going to be difficult, I will fully
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Speaker 1: acknowledge that it's a lot easier to move Kamala Harris's
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Speaker 1: approval ratings then it will be Trump's in either direction.
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Speaker 1: So she's far more vulnerable to an attack on her
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Speaker 1: personal authenticity then for instance Trump is.
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Speaker 2: And the news media knows this.
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Speaker 1: They're dumb, but most of them aren't completing total imbeciles.
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Speaker 1: And as I continue to say, they've been acting as
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Speaker 1: if they are the Harris campaign manager from the time
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Speaker 1: that they went after Biden and forced him out to
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Speaker 1: the time that they installed Harris and prevented her from
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Speaker 1: having to even go through any sort of open process
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Speaker 1: to get the nomination, And they have been blowing a
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Speaker 1: hurricane wind at her back ever since. And so they
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Speaker 1: know this is a dangerous issue.
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Speaker 2: I guarantee you in the news.
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Speaker 1: Rooms across the country, especially in New York and Washington,
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Speaker 1: d C.
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Speaker 2: They're going, what the fuck is this? What is she doing?
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Speaker 2: What is she doing?
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Speaker 1: But we're not going to talk about it because this
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Speaker 1: is dangerous stuff. They know that is potential tonight if
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Speaker 1: she is seen, especially with all her flip flops, as
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Speaker 1: somebody who is inauthentic and someone who cannot be trusted
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Speaker 1: and is you know, maybe not two faced, but two
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Speaker 1: faced in the sense that they even speak differently to
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Speaker 1: different crowds because they're not real, they're fake.
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Speaker 2: Well, there are very few ways.
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Speaker 1: This is one of the many situations where Republicans and
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Speaker 1: conservatives are in an inherent disadvantage, especially in the Trump era.
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Speaker 1: There are very few ways to get a story like
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Speaker 1: this injected into the mainstream and in front of the
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Speaker 1: eyes and the ears of swing voters when it is
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Speaker 1: clearly to the disadvantage of the favored Democratic candidate. And
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Speaker 1: part of why that is is because Trump has very
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Speaker 1: poor personal approval and trust ratings, so Trump has very
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Speaker 1: little ability to get any of these topics injected into
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Speaker 1: the mainstream, and the conservative media has been marginalized. This
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Speaker 1: is why they have attacked Fox News Channel as mercilessly
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Speaker 1: as they have for as long as they have. They
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Speaker 1: know that Fox News Channel is the fly in the
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Speaker 1: ointment because it has a huge audience, and if they need,
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Speaker 1: they know they need to isolate Fox News Channel so
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Speaker 1: that they only have an impact within their own echo chamber,
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Speaker 1: and by and large, the left has been very successful
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Speaker 1: at that, and unfortunately, I think Fox News Channel has
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Speaker 1: done a lot of things to allow that to happen,
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Speaker 1: because from a financial standpoint, Fox News Channel doesn't really
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Speaker 1: give a shit whether or not they have impact beyond
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Speaker 1: their own walls. All they care about is how many
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Speaker 1: people are within those walls consuming their content, and if
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Speaker 1: they have a monopoly over a certain percentage of the
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Speaker 1: population and what they want to hear, which they basically do.
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Speaker 2: Then that's good for their business model.
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Speaker 1: Talk all the time about how one of the main
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Speaker 1: things that has destroyed journalism, why we have the death
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Speaker 1: of journalism is because the business model broke and all
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Speaker 1: the incentives are messed up. There are perverse incentives here,
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Speaker 1: and Fox News Channel has perverse incentives. I would argue
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Speaker 1: that the entire conservative media has a perverse incentive. Now
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Speaker 1: it hasn't manifest itself in coverage too much, at least
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Speaker 1: not yet, but they have a perverse incentive in that
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Speaker 1: their next four maybe eight years are going to be
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Speaker 1: a lot better if Harris is elected, then if Trump
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Speaker 1: is elected, because if Harris is elected they're on the offense.
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Speaker 1: If Trump is elected, they're on the defense. And you know,
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Speaker 1: Trump creates a lot of reasons for you to be
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Speaker 1: on the defense. So the conservative media and the Trump
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Speaker 1: campaign really have a very limited ability to get a
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Speaker 1: story like Kamala Harris making up accents for different crowds
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Speaker 1: in front of the swing voters in the swing states.
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Speaker 1: Now they can do it, They paid commercials can do it.
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Speaker 1: I've seen those sign yet. Although it's early that that's
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Speaker 1: going to happen. I would like to believe that it's
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Speaker 1: going to happen because I think this is a potentially
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Speaker 1: devastating issue for Harris. One of the ways that this
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Speaker 1: could happen and should happen.
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Speaker 2: In a remotely rational world, is that a member of
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Speaker 2: the news.
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Speaker 1: Media asks either ideally Harris a question about this, but
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Speaker 1: she doesn't answer any questions, she doesn't do any interviews,
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Speaker 1: or asks someone in her.
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Speaker 2: Campaign about that.
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Speaker 1: But they're not likely to do that and the campaign
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Speaker 1: is not likely to answer. So one of the few
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Speaker 1: avenues where this theoretically could happen, because there is still
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Speaker 1: as of now a somewhat open forum, is within the
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Speaker 1: White House Press Corps.
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Speaker 2: At a press.
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Speaker 1: Conference held by the White House Press Secretary green John Pierre,
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Speaker 1: who happens to be a black female, which is relevant
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Speaker 1: in just a minute here, because where I'm.
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Speaker 2: Going with all this is that this did happen.
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Speaker 1: There was an attempt to make this into an issue
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Speaker 1: at the White House Press briefing, but unfortunately the person
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Speaker 1: that did it was not as should have been if
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Speaker 1: we lived in a remotely rational world where journalism wasn't dead.
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Speaker 1: There should have been ideally a black reporter from a
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Speaker 1: mainstream or liberal media outlet who had the credibility and
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Speaker 1: who cared enough about the truth and didn't want to
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Speaker 1: be just a stooge for the Harris campaign, who would
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Speaker 1: be offended by what Harris did as a black person,
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Speaker 1: and they would ask the question, Hey, what was up
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Speaker 1: with Kamala Harris's new accent? It certainly seemed like she
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Speaker 1: was pandering to black people. Why shouldn't black people be
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Speaker 1: offended by this? Well, that didn't happen, because we don't
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Speaker 1: live in that world.
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Speaker 2: Journalism is dead, And instead.
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Speaker 1: The person that asked that question and who tried to
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Speaker 1: raise this issue was Peter Deucy from.
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Speaker 2: Fox News Channel.
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Speaker 1: Now, I don't think i've ever really talked about Peter
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Speaker 1: Deucy directly.
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Speaker 2: I may have on the periphery.
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Speaker 1: I know he is somebody who a lot of conservatives
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Speaker 1: love because he's the one guy at these press briefings
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Speaker 1: who stands up and asks the question that they want asked.
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Speaker 2: I actually hate Peter Deucy, not like as a human being.
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Speaker 1: I've never had any contact with him, but I hate
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Speaker 1: that he even exists because he's a NEPO baby number one.
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Speaker 1: He is as white as can be. He's whiter than
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Speaker 1: I am. He's not very smart. I don't know how
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Speaker 1: he got the reputation. I mean, you know, sometimes stupid
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Speaker 1: people can do things that seem brave because they don't
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Speaker 1: realize the potential repercussions that they have no fear. I
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Speaker 1: sense that Peter Deucy might be in that category. There
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Speaker 1: might be some autism involved here.
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Speaker 2: I don't know that. It's just my guess, but he's
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Speaker 2: not a very smart guy.
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Speaker 1: And the clip I'm about to play for you kind
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Speaker 1: of further proves that. Because one, I hate the fact
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Speaker 1: that it's Deucey. He's literally the worst person that could
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Speaker 1: have asked this question. He's from Fox Deuce Channel, He's
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Speaker 1: a very white male, and he doesn't ask the question properly,
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Speaker 1: so it's basically three strikes in, you're out. And he
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Speaker 1: allows Karine Jean Pierre to completely gaslight him on this issue.
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Speaker 1: I mean, if you listen to Pierre's response, it's exactly
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Speaker 1: the response of someone who knows they've been caught and
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Speaker 1: they're grasping. And she doesn't even technically deny the truth
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Speaker 1: of the matter, but she just tries to claim that
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Speaker 1: this is an illegitimate issue. Come on, American people don't
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Speaker 1: care about this. And you know what Deucy should have
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Speaker 1: said is I think the American people do care about authenticity,
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Speaker 1: especially for someone that they don't know very well and
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Speaker 1: they're just getting to know.
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Speaker 2: But Deucy doesn't do any of that. So Deucey blows
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Speaker 2: it on.
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Speaker 1: Even the cities where the accent occur, he reverses that,
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Speaker 1: which was stupid. He calls this a Southern accent, and
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Speaker 1: I again, because it's in Detroit, I think that immediately
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Speaker 1: makes people go, what are you talking about. It's not
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Speaker 1: really a Southern accent. Yes, there is a Southern component
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Speaker 1: to it, but that's because there are large populations of
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Speaker 1: black people in the South. It's not the only place
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Speaker 1: where there are large populations of black people. To me,
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Speaker 1: what I hear is Harris doing almost a black preacher impression.
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Speaker 1: I've been to black churches many times. I've been to
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Speaker 1: several black funerals. That's the cadence, that's the accent. It's
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Speaker 1: not really Southern. Some people might call it ghetto. To me,
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Speaker 1: if I was Peter Deucy, I would have called it
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Speaker 1: racially charged accent. That might have given him enough cover.
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Speaker 1: No one else was going to ask about this. As
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Speaker 1: a white male, I get he can't come out right
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Speaker 1: away and say, you know that this was, you know,
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Speaker 1: a black accent, and the black people ought to be offended.
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Speaker 1: I would like him to have tried to do something
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Speaker 1: in that direction, especially since he's speaking to a black female.
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Speaker 2: But none of that happened.
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Speaker 1: So Doosey butchers the question and Pierre is allowed to
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Speaker 1: gaslight to the extreme.
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Speaker 2: And here's what that sounded like a different topic.
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Speaker 1: Since when does the vice president have what sounds like
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Speaker 1: a Southern accent?
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Speaker 3: Better thank our union member for sickly, You better thank
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Speaker 3: a union member for paid lee and you all helped
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Speaker 3: us win in twenty twenty and we don't do it
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Speaker 3: again in twenty twenty four.
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Speaker 1: I have no idea what you're talking about. Well, I mean,
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Speaker 1: this is she was talking about unions in Detroit using
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Speaker 1: one tone of voice.
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Speaker 3: Is this something the same line?
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Speaker 2: Okay, Peter?
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Speaker 1: Does she she used the same line in Pittsburgh and
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Speaker 1: it sounded like she at least had some kind of
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Speaker 1: a southern at all.
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Speaker 3: I mean, do you hear the question that?
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Speaker 1: I mean, do you think Americans seriously think that this
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Speaker 1: is an important question?
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Speaker 2: They care?
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Speaker 3: You know, what they care about.
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Speaker 1: They care about the economy, they care about lowering cost
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Speaker 1: they care about healthcare. That's what Americans care about.
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Speaker 2: That's what they want. They care about.
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Speaker 3: Your colleague just asked me about what basically we talked about,
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Speaker 3: went back and forth about democracy and freedom.
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Speaker 2: That's what they care about. I'm not even going to
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Speaker 2: entertain some question about the present. It's just it's just
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Speaker 2: hearing it sounds so ridiculous. Well, but hearing it is
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Speaker 2: the question I'm talking about. The questions is just insane.
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Speaker 2: Is that how she talks in meetings? I'm just Peter,
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Speaker 2: We're moving on.
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Speaker 1: That was extremely frustrating to listen to. I know, I'm
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Speaker 1: probably for you, because I know it was for me.
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Speaker 1: And and this is the price that conservatives pay for
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Speaker 1: having created their own media.
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Speaker 2: I know this is getting really deep, but to me, this.
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Speaker 1: Is a classic example of how I am right that
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Speaker 1: the conservative media is the worst thing that has ever
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Speaker 1: happened to Republican politics, especially nationally. I've talked about this
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Speaker 1: many times before. And you know, correlation isn't necessarily causation.
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Speaker 1: But if you look at the presidential elections before the
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Speaker 1: advent of conservative media, and after the advent of conservative
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Speaker 1: media Fox News channel, talk radio, and then in the
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Speaker 1: Internet era.
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Speaker 2: It's stark. It's stark.
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Speaker 1: Now, there are other reasons for why Republicans have done
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Speaker 1: much much worse in the post conservative media era than
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Speaker 1: they did prior to the conservative media era. I always say,
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Speaker 1: look at nineteen eighty four. In nineteen eighty four, the
22:57
Speaker 1: media was still not yet fragmented. There was no cable
23:00
Speaker 1: news channels, there was no Internet. People were forced to
23:04
Speaker 1: get some semblance of substance news. The news media was
23:07
Speaker 1: extremely liberally biased, but at least it pretended to be
23:13
Speaker 1: somewhat fair, and there were some conservative voices within the mainstream,
23:18
Speaker 1: and the mainstream still had to appeal to conservative audiences.
23:24
Speaker 1: All that's gone now, And in nineteen eighty four Ronald
23:27
Speaker 1: Reagan won in the landslide re election despite having butchered really,
23:32
Speaker 1: in my opinion, two different debates against Walter Mondale.
23:36
Speaker 2: And so that to me is the proof that.
23:42
Speaker 1: Conservatives are in a much worse shape. Again, they are
23:44
Speaker 1: demographic reasons that are related to this. But today here
23:49
Speaker 1: we have to rely on Peter freakin Doocey to try
23:53
Speaker 1: to create a circumstance where this gets a spark and
23:59
Speaker 1: ignites into a fire. And he's not able to do it,
24:03
Speaker 1: partially because he's not very good and partially because he
24:06
Speaker 1: has the stench of Fox News.
24:08
Speaker 2: Channel all over him and he's a white male.
24:11
Speaker 1: And you know what should happen here does not happen,
24:15
Speaker 1: And what would happen in reverse is that every news
24:19
Speaker 1: media member would not stop until they got a response
24:25
Speaker 1: that furthered, the story that furthered it down the mountain,
24:29
Speaker 1: that it extended or inflamed that initial spark, that took
24:35
Speaker 1: the spark and caused it to go into an inferno.
24:39
Speaker 2: Because you know, that's how these stories work.
24:41
Speaker 1: You got to get somebody to go, oh I don't
24:43
Speaker 1: know that she really did that accent.
24:45
Speaker 2: Did she do an act?
24:47
Speaker 1: You'll say something stupid so that you can further the story. Well,
24:53
Speaker 1: Pierre didn't even acknowledge it. And of course he's going
24:56
Speaker 1: to be allowed to get away with that because in
24:58
Speaker 1: the vast majority of the main news media, she's on
25:01
Speaker 1: the right side.
25:01
Speaker 2: They know she's lying, they know she's lying.
25:05
Speaker 1: But they don't care because they're not forced to deal
25:09
Speaker 1: with it, partially because it's Peter Doucey asking the question.
25:14
Speaker 1: And you know, for all the reasons I've already stated,
25:17
Speaker 1: white male Fox News Channel, he butchered the question and
25:21
Speaker 1: he let her essentially win the exchange, which was insane
25:26
Speaker 1: given the fact that the truth was one hundred percent
25:28
Speaker 1: on his side. And you know, in my view, the
25:33
Speaker 1: story is not going to grow organically as it should,
25:37
Speaker 1: or as it would.
25:38
Speaker 2: If the parties were reversed.
25:40
Speaker 1: Here now, is it still possible the Trump campaign could
25:44
Speaker 1: buy commercials in key states showing the dramatic difference between
25:50
Speaker 1: Kamala Harris speaking to one crowd and speaking to another.
25:54
Speaker 2: Yes, but I don't have any.
25:55
Speaker 1: Faith that the core issue is ever going to be
25:59
Speaker 1: a judahar, which I do think has a racial component
26:03
Speaker 1: to it. I think that's the biggest mistake in all this.
26:06
Speaker 1: This is not a Southern accent. That's not what's happening here.
26:12
Speaker 1: She's trying too hard to prove herself to be an
26:17
Speaker 1: authentic black person only to black audiences, and in the
26:22
Speaker 1: mainstream media's mind, she can get away with that because, well,
26:25
Speaker 1: she's a woman of color. So she's just allowing that
26:28
Speaker 1: side of her to come out to a crowd that
26:31
Speaker 1: she perceives will react positively to it.
26:35
Speaker 2: Let's move along. We've got much more important issues.
26:37
Speaker 1: To discuss than this, and so my guess is that
26:42
Speaker 1: she will once again escape what should be a very,
26:45
Speaker 1: very damaging situation for her.
26:48
Speaker 2: Now, another story that the.
26:50
Speaker 1: News media is just completely ignoring, which some on the
26:54
Speaker 1: right I think are correctly saying should be the biggest
26:57
Speaker 1: story politically in the country today, is that our president,
27:02
Speaker 1: apparently Joe Biden, has basically quit.
27:07
Speaker 2: He's basically quit.
27:09
Speaker 1: And you know, it is amazing what happens in so
27:14
Speaker 1: many different ways, what happens when people get older. But
27:17
Speaker 1: there are so many studies that indicate that, you know,
27:19
Speaker 1: especially men, when they retire, their health really goes downhill fast.
27:25
Speaker 1: Because they really don't have much to live for. They
27:28
Speaker 1: lose their routine mentally, you know, that doesn't seem to
27:33
Speaker 1: be as much at stake. A lot of it's subconscious,
27:36
Speaker 1: but it does seem to be real. I've seen it
27:38
Speaker 1: in my own life, and there are studies that certainly
27:41
Speaker 1: back this up. And I don't want to make too
27:44
Speaker 1: much of it because we're dealing with a pretty small
27:46
Speaker 1: period of time here, but it does seem as if,
27:51
Speaker 1: you know, Biden has just given up spending the rest
27:54
Speaker 1: of his presidency on the beach. Even when he does speak,
27:58
Speaker 1: it's seemingly getting worse than it was even before he
28:02
Speaker 1: withdrew from the race. It's obvious he doesn't care anymore.
28:06
Speaker 1: It's obvious that the people around him don't care anymore.
28:10
Speaker 2: There are huge things happening.
28:12
Speaker 1: I mean, my god, can you imagine if Trump was
28:15
Speaker 1: on the beach for weeks at a time and American
28:20
Speaker 1: hostages were being killed by hamas. You know, that would
28:27
Speaker 1: be a massive story, that would be a narrative surrounding
28:32
Speaker 1: the entire presidency. But this is Biden's consolation prize for
28:37
Speaker 1: doing what the news media wanted him to do, which
28:40
Speaker 1: was get the hell out because you're gonna lose to Trump.
28:44
Speaker 1: And so after three weeks of badgering, he finally gave
28:47
Speaker 1: up the car keys and now they're just gonna let
28:50
Speaker 1: him go. No more criticism. He's not allowed to be
28:53
Speaker 1: criticized anymore. You would think it would work the opposite way,
28:56
Speaker 1: because there's no harm in criticizing him anymore. In theory,
29:01
Speaker 1: I guess, I guess they may think that it harms
29:04
Speaker 1: Harris residually if they go after Biden. In a rational world,
29:09
Speaker 1: would that would actually have some rationality behind it to
29:13
Speaker 1: be redundant. But for whatever reason, they're just pretending that
29:19
Speaker 1: Biden is retired so we don't have a president. I mean,
29:21
Speaker 1: that should have been one of the primary questions that
29:25
Speaker 1: Dana Bash asked Kamala Harris if that was even close
29:30
Speaker 1: to being an act of real journalism, was who's the president?
29:34
Speaker 1: Who's in charge? What is Joe Biden's real mental state?
29:39
Speaker 1: If he's not capable of running for reelection, how can
29:43
Speaker 1: he be president of the United States for four or
29:46
Speaker 1: five more months where things are still happening, critical things
29:50
Speaker 1: could happen at any moment, and he seems.
29:55
Speaker 2: To be completely out of it. He's just giving up.
29:57
Speaker 1: He's quiet quitting, and no one cares, especially not in
30:01
Speaker 1: the news media. It's really remarkable in some ways, it's
30:06
Speaker 1: the most astonishing thing that's happened of many over the
30:10
Speaker 1: last couple of months prior to this coup, during this coup,
30:14
Speaker 1: and after this coup, that the Democratic Party seamlessly pulled
30:18
Speaker 1: off with the help.
30:20
Speaker 2: Of the mainstream news media.
30:22
Speaker 1: And there's something else interesting going on with regard to
30:25
Speaker 1: Biden and his quiet quitting and effectively retiring. By the way,
30:30
Speaker 1: I want to also mention the other day he praised
30:34
Speaker 1: Harris in very dramatic terms, and I'm like, okay, if
30:39
Speaker 1: she's so amazing, then why did you fight for three weeks?
30:44
Speaker 1: First of all, why did you even run for reelection?
30:46
Speaker 1: Why did you fight for three weeks to hold on
30:49
Speaker 1: to the nomination at one point even saying you thought
30:51
Speaker 1: you were the best person still even after the first
30:56
Speaker 1: debate to run against Donald Trump?
30:59
Speaker 2: Why did you do you believe that?
31:00
Speaker 1: If you think Harris is so amazing, then why did
31:04
Speaker 1: you believe that? And now that you've dropped out, why
31:08
Speaker 1: don't you just make her president? You could make her
31:11
Speaker 1: president if she's so amazing and you've acknowledged that you're,
31:16
Speaker 1: at least indirectly that your health is not good enough
31:19
Speaker 1: for you to run for re election. So why don't
31:22
Speaker 1: you resign from office and make her president if she's
31:26
Speaker 1: so amazing? Well, I don't think he'll do that for
31:30
Speaker 1: ego purposes and for dignity from a dignity standpoint, and
31:34
Speaker 1: also from the perspective of having control over a hunter
31:38
Speaker 1: Biden pardon, should Harris lose. I think that's all part
31:43
Speaker 1: of this equation, none of which has anything to do
31:45
Speaker 1: with what's good for.
31:46
Speaker 2: The nation, for the world.
31:48
Speaker 1: But that's a contradiction that nobody in the main street
31:52
Speaker 1: news media ever brings up. Hey, if Biden thinks she's
31:56
Speaker 1: so amazing, then how did this all transpire the way
32:00
Speaker 1: that it did, and why is he still president? But
32:04
Speaker 1: back to my next point on Biden, and I think
32:07
Speaker 1: this is critical to understanding what's really happening in the
32:10
Speaker 1: presidential race.
32:11
Speaker 2: I've said previously.
32:13
Speaker 1: That I now believe that I was one of those
32:16
Speaker 1: that misinterpreted, at least in part, why Biden had such
32:23
Speaker 1: pathetic numbers in comparison to Trump. And this started to
32:29
Speaker 1: occur to me when after the first debate and the
32:34
Speaker 1: news media went after Biden hard in an unprecedented fashion.
32:38
Speaker 1: Never in modern history has the mainstream news media ever
32:42
Speaker 1: gone after the Democratic presidential nominee anything close to the
32:45
Speaker 1: way they went after Biden after that first debate, and
32:49
Speaker 1: it barely moved Biden's poll numbers. That was my first
32:54
Speaker 1: inkling of Okay, wait a minute, what is going on
32:58
Speaker 1: here this And they didn't even move that much, although
33:03
Speaker 1: we'll never know for sure because he got out of
33:05
Speaker 1: the race a week later, even after the assassination attempt
33:08
Speaker 1: against Trump, And so I thought, Okay, clearly, this is
33:14
Speaker 1: a situation where Trump is this unpopular, this disliked, that
33:19
Speaker 1: there's a you know whatever, it is forty three, forty four,
33:22
Speaker 1: forty five percent of the American people that will vote
33:24
Speaker 1: for literally a vegetable instead of Donald Trump. But then
33:31
Speaker 1: when Harris got in and was handed to the nomination
33:34
Speaker 1: and the numbers flipped dramatically and instantly, I was like, okay,
33:41
Speaker 1: wait a minute, hold on, we've been we've been misinterpreting
33:46
Speaker 1: these Biden numbers. The Trump team and I bought into
33:51
Speaker 1: this to a certain extent. I think most of the
33:53
Speaker 1: media did bought in that. The primary reason prior to
33:58
Speaker 1: the first debate, Biden's numbers sucked was that people were
34:02
Speaker 1: unhappy with his policies, unhappy with the state of the country,
34:07
Speaker 1: you know, unhappy with the economy, that there were substantive
34:12
Speaker 1: policy reasons behind it, and I started to think, well,
34:17
Speaker 1: wait a minute. The only way, considering the fact that
34:21
Speaker 1: Harris previously had had very poor personal approval ratings, the
34:26
Speaker 1: only way to justify Harris now suddenly leading out of
34:31
Speaker 1: the blue, is that the American public, at least a
34:35
Speaker 1: large part of it, was actually ahead of.
34:38
Speaker 2: The news media.
34:39
Speaker 1: It's because the news media wasn't admitting that Biden was
34:42
Speaker 1: mentally debilitated and declining fast. Doesn't mean that huge portions
34:48
Speaker 1: of the public didn't see it for themselves and had
34:51
Speaker 1: their own experiences with men in their eighties and concluded, whoa, whoa, whoa,
34:57
Speaker 1: this isn't going to work. One, he might lose the Trump,
35:01
Speaker 1: which I don't like if I'm not a conservative. And
35:04
Speaker 1: two if he wins, he can't serve another four years.
35:08
Speaker 1: And that's what was weighing Biden down, maybe even more
35:15
Speaker 1: so than the economy or liberal policies or the state
35:19
Speaker 1: of the country, because that's the only way to interpret
35:24
Speaker 1: it now through the prism of what we currently see
35:28
Speaker 1: in the shift in the polling. And there's been further
35:32
Speaker 1: evidence to support my revised theory because even though he's
35:38
Speaker 1: now retired, he's spending life literally on the beach. His
35:45
Speaker 1: approval ratings. Biden's approval ratings have significantly increased, have improved
35:52
Speaker 1: in the last couple of weeks. Now, why would that be, Well,
35:57
Speaker 1: that would be in my view, these aren't. There's aren't
36:02
Speaker 1: not enough data yet to be one hundred percent sure
36:04
Speaker 1: about how big a jump there's been in his.
36:07
Speaker 2: Approval ratings, But there's been a jump.
36:10
Speaker 1: And to me, the remotely logical explanation for this is
36:15
Speaker 1: a portion of Biden's disapproval was from people who don't
36:21
Speaker 1: like Trump, who thought he was a danger to creating
36:24
Speaker 1: a situation where Trump was gonna win, that he did
36:28
Speaker 1: not have the mental acuity to run and win and serve,
36:33
Speaker 1: and that was the source of his disapproval.
36:35
Speaker 2: Well, now that's gone.
36:37
Speaker 1: Just like the age issue, the mental acuity issue is
36:41
Speaker 1: gone with Harris, and now frankly has been flipped on
36:45
Speaker 1: Trump to a certain degree because now he's the old guy,
36:48
Speaker 1: he's going to be in his eighties if he wins.
36:51
Speaker 1: And so we just got through a situation where we
36:53
Speaker 1: basically proved that a guy in his eighties shouldn't be
36:56
Speaker 1: president and Biden, and now you know, Trump's in a
37:00
Speaker 1: situation where he's got to somehow get past that hurdle.
37:04
Speaker 1: I think that helps Harris quite a bit. It hurts Trump,
37:08
Speaker 1: ironically enough. Well, Similarly, I think we have a situation
37:12
Speaker 1: where Biden's approval is increasing, his disapproval numbers are going
37:18
Speaker 1: down because he's no longer in a situation where people
37:23
Speaker 1: are pissed at him for running for another term that
37:25
Speaker 1: he can't serve, and no longer pissed at him for
37:29
Speaker 1: potentially creating a situation where Trump would win. Obviously, I'm
37:32
Speaker 1: not talking about conservatives here. I'm talking about people who
37:35
Speaker 1: aren't not Republicans, somewhere in the middle, maybe even left wingers,
37:41
Speaker 1: who were pissed off at Biden, and now no longer
37:44
Speaker 1: are they see him as having done a selfless act,
37:49
Speaker 1: as George Clooney said, for the good of the country,
37:51
Speaker 1: which of course is absurd. So wait a minute, it
37:53
Speaker 1: is selfless to after three weeks of a gun to
37:57
Speaker 1: your head, you finally decide to give up the car keys,
38:01
Speaker 1: and then you quit the job.
38:02
Speaker 2: You quit the most important job theoretically in the world.
38:05
Speaker 1: That's selfless me, it's incredibly selfish. But we're living in
38:10
Speaker 1: an upside down world now, as I've promised, we're threatened.
38:15
Speaker 1: I'm not sure which between now and the election. Every
38:19
Speaker 1: single episode of the Death of Journalism podcast, I'm going
38:23
Speaker 1: to provide what I think the Electoral College outcome would
38:27
Speaker 1: be if the election were held today. That's an important,
38:32
Speaker 1: very important caveat. I'm not predicting what will happen in
38:37
Speaker 1: the election in November or whenever all these votes are counted,
38:42
Speaker 1: because under some circumstances we're going to be counting until January.
38:48
Speaker 2: January of twenty twenty six.
38:49
Speaker 1: I mean, if some of these polls are correct, where
38:52
Speaker 1: we got all seven swing states on a razor's edge,
38:55
Speaker 1: it's going to be a complete shit show. But just
38:58
Speaker 1: for the record, I'll continue to say this so there's
39:00
Speaker 1: no confusion. This is not a prediction about what will happen.
39:04
Speaker 1: It's what would happen if the election were today. Now,
39:08
Speaker 1: to be clear, we're getting close to when voting starts,
39:12
Speaker 1: and it looks like the maybe only one debate, which
39:16
Speaker 1: will occur next week, could possibly be the only potential
39:20
Speaker 1: black swan between now and then. Now, this has been
39:22
Speaker 1: such a crazy cycle, I expect other things to happen.
39:25
Speaker 1: I'm sure they will. Whether there's a second debate or not,
39:28
Speaker 1: we don't know yet. But again for the record, if
39:32
Speaker 1: today was when the election was held, my prediction or
39:37
Speaker 1: projection would be that Harris would win two seventy seven
39:41
Speaker 1: to two sixty one. That is not a change from
39:44
Speaker 1: the last episode of the podcast. And once again that
39:48
Speaker 1: would shift from a Harris victory to a Trump victory
39:52
Speaker 1: if Trump won Pennsylvania. Now, interestingly, I have been saying
39:58
Speaker 1: that if I was advised the Trump campaign directly, which
40:02
Speaker 1: clearly I'm not, for better or for worse, the most
40:05
Speaker 1: logical and least perilous path for Trump to win under
40:13
Speaker 1: the current circumstances, to me is Pennsylvania, North Carolina, Georgia. Pennsylvania,
40:19
Speaker 1: North Carolina, Georgia. That appears to be the strategy of
40:24
Speaker 1: the Trump campaign based upon their spending, So that's a
40:28
Speaker 1: good sign. I'm not totally discounting the importance of Nevada
40:31
Speaker 1: or Arizona. I now have Trump winning Arizona. I think
40:36
Speaker 1: that current view has been further vindicated by a new
40:39
Speaker 1: pullout from CNN today. For some reason, Trump is surging
40:45
Speaker 1: in Arizona and he's fading in Nevada, which doesn't make
40:49
Speaker 1: sense to me. It's the opposite of what I thought
40:51
Speaker 1: would be the more likely scenario. But you know, that
40:55
Speaker 1: only matters basically to avoid a potential tie if Trump
41:00
Speaker 1: wins Pennsylvania, North Carolina, and Georgia. And the reason why
41:05
Speaker 1: I think that should be the focus. There's a lot
41:08
Speaker 1: of reasons, but mostly because in Georgia, you got a
41:12
Speaker 1: governor with a potentially plus thirty approval rating, and it's
41:17
Speaker 1: obviously a Southern state, and it's a state that Republicans
41:20
Speaker 1: should win. And you know, you've had Democrats winning there
41:23
Speaker 1: other than on the governor level for the last couple
41:27
Speaker 1: of cycles, and you would think that there would be
41:30
Speaker 1: some moderates there that are Okay, that didn't work, let's
41:33
Speaker 1: go back to voting Republican. But there's some inherent advantages
41:38
Speaker 1: that Trump should have should even though he's under indictment
41:41
Speaker 1: there in Georgia and so geographically, and I'm still one
41:47
Speaker 1: of these people.
41:48
Speaker 2: I'm a dinosaur. I still think geography matters.
41:50
Speaker 1: I talk all the time about how in twenty twenty
41:52
Speaker 1: there was only one landlocked state, and that was Georgia.
41:57
Speaker 1: And in geographical terms, you've got a ticket here that's
42:01
Speaker 1: from California and Minnesota. You almost physically can't get any
42:06
Speaker 1: further away from California and Minnesota than Georgia. There's no
42:10
Speaker 1: natural connection that Harris Waltz has to Georgia, other than
42:15
Speaker 1: maybe the fact that plausibly Harris is a woman of color,
42:20
Speaker 1: and there's obviously a huge black population in Atlanta. But
42:25
Speaker 1: I think that if you're going to make a stand,
42:28
Speaker 1: if you're Trump, it's Georgia. It's North Carolina, where you
42:32
Speaker 1: have won the last two times, and you know theoretically
42:36
Speaker 1: you should win a third time. Poles are tightening in
42:39
Speaker 1: North Carolina, but Trump is doing better in North Carolina
42:43
Speaker 1: than he is in some of the other swing states.
42:45
Speaker 1: And you gotta win one of the big three, which
42:48
Speaker 1: is Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania. And I pick Pennsylvania one
42:53
Speaker 1: because the polling there is closer than it is in Wisconsin.
42:57
Speaker 1: The polling in Michigan is all over the map. But
42:59
Speaker 1: I still think that Harris would be clearly the favorite
43:04
Speaker 1: to win that right now, and that you got a
43:05
Speaker 1: very popular Democratic female governor there. So Pennsylvania from a
43:11
Speaker 1: both a geographical perspective because you're again you're as far
43:14
Speaker 1: away from California and Minnesota as you can possibly get
43:19
Speaker 1: in Pennsylvania. Plus you have the snubbing of Josh Shapiro
43:23
Speaker 1: as Harris's vice presidential now many plus the fact you
43:26
Speaker 1: have that Trump has won Pennsylvania previously, as he did
43:30
Speaker 1: Wisconsin and Michigan. But to me, when I look back
43:33
Speaker 1: at the twenty sixteen election, it was really all about Pennsylvania.
43:38
Speaker 1: And you know, it wasn't technically the difference, but that
43:42
Speaker 1: to me was representative of what Trump pulled off. And
43:47
Speaker 1: you know that I'll never forget because I had had
43:50
Speaker 1: dinner with the late Great Franco Harris the night before
43:55
Speaker 1: that election in Pittsburgh, where Franco had just introduced Hillary
44:00
Speaker 1: Clinton at one of her final events before the election,
44:03
Speaker 1: and Franco was so incredibly confident that he was actually
44:08
Speaker 1: because he knew I was a republic and he was
44:10
Speaker 1: actually kind of commiserating with me that there would be
44:12
Speaker 1: no Republican party moving forward. And obviously it didn't turn
44:16
Speaker 1: out that way. And of course the other part of
44:18
Speaker 1: this equation. If you're a big fan of my work,
44:21
Speaker 1: and you probably are since you're a subscriber to this podcast,
44:24
Speaker 1: you know that my only personal interaction with Trump was
44:28
Speaker 1: backstage at the Today Show in twenty fourteen, where we
44:32
Speaker 1: talked about Pennsylvania because of the penn State, Joe Paterno,
44:35
Speaker 1: Jerry Sandusky case and Trump's very strong support, especially in
44:39
Speaker 1: comparison to any other celebrity of Joe Paterno. And then
44:42
Speaker 1: he and I exchanged messages and he sent me a
44:45
Speaker 1: sign note about standing up for the truth and.
44:49
Speaker 2: All that and how much Pennsylvania loved him.
44:52
Speaker 1: And that was before I ever knew he was going
44:54
Speaker 1: to run for president and make Pennsylvania keep part of
44:57
Speaker 1: his strategy. So for all those reasons, and I very
45:01
Speaker 1: strongly believe that the path for Trump is Pennsylvania, North Carolina, Georgia.
45:07
Speaker 1: And then, you know, just to give yourself a little
45:10
Speaker 1: bit of padding so you don't have to worry about
45:12
Speaker 1: a tie. If you happen to lose that second Congression
45:15
Speaker 1: district in Maine, then you know you win Arizona or
45:20
Speaker 1: or Nevada, Arizona or Nevada puts you over the top.
45:23
Speaker 1: That is a logical scenario. That is a scenario that
45:26
Speaker 1: is still very very very much in play. I know
45:30
Speaker 1: that I am creating the impression that Harris is a lock.
45:34
Speaker 1: I don't believe that at all. I just think that
45:36
Speaker 1: if it was today, she would win. And it's possible
45:40
Speaker 1: that she could win from the elector college perspective more
45:43
Speaker 1: handily than I have it, because you know, she could
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Speaker 1: easily win Georgia, she could win North Carolina. You know
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Speaker 1: she's the favorite in Nevada, and she could easily win
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Speaker 1: all three of Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania. And under that
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Speaker 1: SCEINNEARI it's a borderline electoral college blowout.
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Speaker 2: But I don't see it quite that way right now.
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Speaker 1: And I'm not saying that that's the way it's going
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Speaker 1: to turn out in November now. Interestingly, the New York
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Speaker 1: Times newsletter has a pretty extensive story looking at who
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Speaker 1: these undecided voters are from a demographic profile perspective, and
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Speaker 1: they portray this as decently good news for Trump. And
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Speaker 1: that is because the demographic profile of who the New
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Speaker 1: York Times sees as the quote unquote undecided voter has
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Speaker 1: a profile that is slightly more pro Trump than it
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Speaker 1: would be pro Harris. It's more white, it's more male,
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Speaker 1: it's less educated, and so therefore, in theory, if that
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Speaker 1: particular kind of undecided voter is gonna break in one
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Speaker 1: direction or the other, you would think there was a
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Speaker 1: decent chance it would they would break for Trump. I
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Speaker 1: don't know how true that is. I think it makes
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Speaker 1: some sense. I think that's where the debate may actually matter.
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Speaker 1: And I'm not particularly you know, all that optimistic about
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Speaker 1: how the debates are gonna go, or the one debate,
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Speaker 1: if that's all that ends up happening, is gonna go
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Speaker 1: for Trump because I don't think he's particularly good at debates,
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Speaker 1: and I think Harris in a in that kind of
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Speaker 1: a format against just Donald Trump, may be able to
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Speaker 1: do better than expected.
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna get to that in a little bit.
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