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Tyler Duffey joins! Opening weekend takeaways, ABS System takes over · Twin Cities Territory

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Speaker 1: All right, hello and welcome to the third episode of
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Speaker 1: Twin Cities Territory, our brand new Minnesota Twins podcast here
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Speaker 1: on the Foul Territory Network. I am Zach Pierce with
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Speaker 1: the Athletics Stan Hayes, and joined it today for the
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Speaker 1: first time by the man who brings our total Major
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Speaker 1: league experience across the pedel up to ten years.
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Speaker 2: Tyler Duffy, Ladies, jolemen.
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Speaker 1: Tyler, thanks for joining us.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely, I'm glad to be here and be a part
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Speaker 2: of something cool.
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Speaker 3: Oh you're the wrong place for cool man, This is
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Speaker 3: not cool. You changed that factor for us. At least
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Speaker 3: that's good. We appreciate you being here. We are now
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Speaker 3: a little bit cooler, but yeah, I agree with we are.
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Speaker 1: Tyler. Of course twins pitcher for eight years also with
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Speaker 1: the Cubs and Royals, and I'm still in the game
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Speaker 1: as well, and we're happy he's here joining us. A
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Speaker 1: lot to talk about, guys, after this first weekend, Twins
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Speaker 1: go one and two in Baltimore. Some bright spots, some
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Speaker 1: question marks, kind of what we expected I think across
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Speaker 1: the board. I guess let's start with you, Dan, for
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Speaker 1: some of your takeaways from those first three games.
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Speaker 3: Well, it's crazy to me. I mean, look, I think
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Speaker 3: you and I talked about it on the first season
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Speaker 3: preview that this team was going to be still interesting
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Speaker 3: despite what everybody wanted to say about it. There's a
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Speaker 3: lot of things on this team that will be interesting
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Speaker 3: to watch throughout the year. And I think they showed
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Speaker 3: that there's more to them than a team that's just
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Speaker 3: you know, essentially a seventy five million dollar payroll group
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Speaker 3: right now, because there is some talent here. And despite
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Speaker 3: playing their sloppiest game of the season on Sunday, they
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Speaker 3: were in it. Though they had chances the whole way.
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Speaker 3: You know, they had bases loaded and struck out three
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Speaker 3: times to the bases loaded and eight another one of
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Speaker 3: those things Twins fans love, and then had the time
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Speaker 3: runs on the ninth and and despite running into three outs,
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Speaker 3: despite having some some batter challenges that were poor Reeds,
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Speaker 3: despite having you know, their piggyback go wrong, they were
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Speaker 3: in that game. And that was after a really nice
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Speaker 3: win on Saturday. They played really well those first two games,
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Speaker 3: and even as sloppy as yesterday was, they were in it.
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Speaker 3: So I thought they were them being as competitive they were,
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Speaker 3: you know, last year in Saint Louis was a total
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Speaker 3: disaster to start the season, and this was they got
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Speaker 3: swept in Saint Louis. Twins very easily could have walked
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Speaker 3: out of Baltimore with a series win. I liked a
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Speaker 3: lot of seeing some of the guys answer questions. You know.
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Speaker 3: The Royce Lewis weekend was very That was about as
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Speaker 3: peak as it could be for the Twins. They need
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Speaker 3: him desperately. The bullpen showed up on Saturday. That was
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Speaker 3: really good to see because we were gonna wonder what
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Speaker 3: they're gonna give them all year, and Challenges.
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Speaker 4: Was seeing Challenges in play was wild, like just wild,
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Speaker 4: and the fan reaction at Baltimore wasn't even close to
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Speaker 4: what it was I think in Cincinnati with Jhanio Suarez
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Speaker 4: with his his couple of bats.
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Speaker 3: I mean, challenges are going to change this game. It's
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Speaker 3: not slowing it down, it's actually speeding it up. We
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Speaker 3: saw that a couple of times. And whereas instant replay
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Speaker 3: in the NFL I think just takes away from the
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Speaker 3: product in some ways, Challenges is fun and fans were
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Speaker 3: into it. So it was pretty interesting weekend and you know,
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Speaker 3: fortunately unfortunately for the Twins. They lost that that third game,
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Speaker 3: but I think that they go to Kansas City and
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Speaker 3: feel pretty good about where they are.
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Speaker 1: Tyler as a as a pitcher. Very curious for your
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Speaker 1: take on the Challenge system and what you've seen so
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Speaker 1: far from the first weekend.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I you know, funny enough, I got to experience
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Speaker 2: it for parts of two years before this because they
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Speaker 2: put it into the minor leagues and so we had
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Speaker 2: the full ABS days where it's like there's no even
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Speaker 2: a negotiation, like you throw in that's right there, it's
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Speaker 2: a ball, and so you know, got games with seventeen
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Speaker 2: walks happened things like that. So like the full ABS is.
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Speaker 2: But being able to know, like as a pitcher or
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Speaker 2: a catcher, as a hitter, like I know that's not
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Speaker 2: a strike where I know that was this. It's great
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Speaker 2: to be able to just say hey quickly, like no sir,
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Speaker 2: and just get it right and then move on with
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Speaker 2: the game. Like and it is funny. You know we
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Speaker 2: were talking the emotional side of it. It's gonna get
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Speaker 2: guys all year. They're gonna try to keep it from happening.
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Speaker 2: But there's guys I remember vividly, like I throw a
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Speaker 2: great pitch and like the guy just couldn't believe it.
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Speaker 2: He didn't swing, and so he challenges it and it's
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Speaker 2: middle middle, and it's just like man, sorry, you know,
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Speaker 2: it's one of those things. But yeah, it's uh, you know,
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Speaker 2: I think, like Dan said, it speeds it up. It
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Speaker 2: gets things right, and it doesn't delay anything, and it
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Speaker 2: does get a little rise or a little upset or
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Speaker 2: you know, happiness from the crowd you know that maybe
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Speaker 2: wouldn't be there anyways. It's like a fifty to fifty
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Speaker 2: raffle in the middle of it at bat.
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Speaker 1: Basically, it's it's remarkably entertaining, and I think it's my favorite.
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Speaker 1: I said this yesterday. I think it's my favorite challenge
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Speaker 1: system in sports already because it's one thing when you
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Speaker 1: you know, like when they're challenging a play at a
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Speaker 1: base and they go to the umpire gestures to the
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Speaker 1: coach or the manager and the dugout and they say
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Speaker 1: hold on a minute, and they look at their monitor
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Speaker 1: and then they go, no, I don't want to challenge that.
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Speaker 1: This is all the player in the moment and they
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Speaker 1: have to decide right away and they only get to
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Speaker 1: be wrong twice for their entire team throughout a game,
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Speaker 1: so that just you have the the you know, I
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Speaker 1: don't know, arrogance maybe to say no, this pitch I'm
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Speaker 1: going to use one on. It's pretty crazy.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's definitely one. You know, you can see a
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Speaker 2: lot of things happening, but especially you get burned early
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Speaker 2: and use them up and then late in the game,
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Speaker 2: like it makes you wander to conversations, you know, maybe postgame.
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Speaker 2: Maybe a guy use one in the second inning for
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Speaker 2: just a no out call, and then the ninth rolls
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Speaker 2: around and you didn't have one and you could have
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Speaker 2: used it. Like, they're probably gonna be some guys getting
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Speaker 2: aired out, whether it's teammates or coaches or something. I
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Speaker 2: could see you down the road, a story popping up somewhere.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, look, there's definitely guidelines with the twins they're trying
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Speaker 3: to put in place. I think the first the deferral
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Speaker 3: mode is let's leave them for Jeffers and Caratini as
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Speaker 3: much as possible because and I loved to why I
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Speaker 3: heard from Joe Ryan and spring training about it. Joe
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Speaker 3: Ryan said, when I'm pitching, and Tyler, you can probably
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Speaker 3: test this when I'm pitching there's so much going on
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Speaker 3: whipping around that my head's moving, my body's moving. I
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Speaker 3: should not be the one to issue that challenge, which
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Speaker 3: is why the Ryan Helsley challenge in the ninth inning
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Speaker 3: was kind of shocking because the pitcher initiated it. But
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Speaker 3: the catcher is the preferred method, and then the team,
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Speaker 3: as far as the hitters go, they want their hitters
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Speaker 3: in the right situations. And we saw it with Las
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Speaker 3: Dias on Saturday. I think it was where Josh Bell
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Speaker 3: thought that there was a one in his first at bat,
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Speaker 3: but he didn't challenge it and asked him afterwards, and
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Speaker 3: Josh Bell said he hadn't seen that pitch yet this
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Speaker 3: series and so he wasn't sure. He didn't have his
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Speaker 3: internal zone on it whether or not to challenge. But
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Speaker 3: the next time up, he was very certain that Las
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Speaker 3: missed a call and he challenged it and he was right.
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Speaker 3: Royce Lewis had one like that. Royce Lewis said he's
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Speaker 3: a little timid when it comes to it because the
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Speaker 3: situation wasn't really right for him to challenge. It was
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Speaker 3: one to zero pitch, it was up and end, it
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Speaker 3: was clearly a ball, and you know, so guys have
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Speaker 3: to figure out what they want to do with it.
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Speaker 3: It's funny because Matt Walner's challenge was exactly the kind
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Speaker 3: of moment you want to use it. As far as
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Speaker 3: three to two pitch bases loaded could be a walk
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Speaker 3: bringing a run. Matt Walner's read on that pitch was
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Speaker 3: the execution was not there. I mean that ball, that
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Speaker 3: ball was well in the zone. But I think they're
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Speaker 3: trying to get guys used to and be comfortable with
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Speaker 3: the idea of challenging at the right times. I'm gonna
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Speaker 3: always say catcher first, and then I want my guys
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Speaker 3: with elite eyes. Luis Riise, I'd let him challenge every
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Speaker 3: single time he wanted to. But also, you know game situation,
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Speaker 3: don't do it early on, like you're saying you want
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Speaker 3: to save it. We saw it come back and bite
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Speaker 3: the Twins in a wild game. I mean there were
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Speaker 3: probably I think there were six catcher challenges between the
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Speaker 3: two teams. Buston, you had Walner both and Bucks and
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Speaker 3: Walner both missed and lost their challenges, and that's why
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Speaker 3: the Twins were out of them. You had the Hellsley challenge.
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Speaker 3: There were nine challenges in the game. And I counted
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Speaker 3: at least two more that would have happened after the
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Speaker 3: Walner one where the twins would have challenged. And I
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Speaker 3: think Mick Abel got screwed on one pitch in the
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Speaker 3: very next batter after Walner, and it was a three
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Speaker 3: to one and it meant two guys were on base already,
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Speaker 3: and uh, you know, you you look at those spots
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Speaker 3: and it hurt them to be out of them. But
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Speaker 3: the dynamic is fascinating. I mean, we spent all weekend
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Speaker 3: talking about baseball, spent all weekend talking about it.
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Speaker 2: It felt like, yeah, I mean to your point about Bucks,
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Speaker 2: I remember that at bat and he challenged, didn't get it,
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Speaker 2: and then the next pitch was like a ball in
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Speaker 2: and he got called a strike on it, and it's
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Speaker 2: just like, in the moment, you're like, that is how
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Speaker 2: quickly it can change that bat, or you an inning,
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Speaker 2: or the whole game for that matter. It was just
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Speaker 2: like one pitch he thought was borderline wasn't, and then
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Speaker 2: the next one is a ball and he can't do
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Speaker 2: anything about it, and you're just like, your hands are
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Speaker 2: tied at that point. It's just a it's a very
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Speaker 2: it's it's gonna be a tough all. I don't think
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Speaker 2: it's ever gonna nobody's gonna be elite, like like you said, right,
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Speaker 2: you know, there's maybe Stephen Kwan. You know, those types
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Speaker 2: will be really good at it. But then like you know,
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Speaker 2: to these like we're talking earlier, the bigger guys in
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Speaker 2: the league, they have so much more zone to cover,
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Speaker 2: and it's just gonna be hard for some of them
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Speaker 2: to truly know that full you know, what is it
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Speaker 2: seventy whatever percent of your height, like unless they set
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Speaker 2: up ropes during VP and just like test it, you know, right.
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Speaker 3: No, And and I mean the Umps have tough Look
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Speaker 3: at Josh bell zone. I mean Josh Bell is a
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Speaker 3: big guy. He walked tall, you know, like he walked
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Speaker 3: twice in the ninth in and both times the pitch
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Speaker 3: was challenged and and you know he ends up striking
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Speaker 3: out and it was like he like, you know, the
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Speaker 3: one thing I think is great for you guys is
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Speaker 3: there's no ambiguity there anymore. You either you know it.
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Speaker 3: It's it's the questions are removed. And another thing that
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Speaker 3: we look, we got a lot of high profile instance
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Speaker 3: this weekend, but the newer Umps are really good at
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Speaker 3: this and the older guys, the ones that didn't come
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Speaker 3: up being challenged working with the abs their entire careers.
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Speaker 3: The older guys the last days is the Doug Eddings.
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Speaker 3: Did you guys see that one with Salvador calling three
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Speaker 3: straight fastballs at the bottom of the.
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Speaker 2: Zone and they just pulled them up.
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Speaker 3: The C. B. Buckner Like the older guys we've always
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Speaker 3: known because we've seen Angel Hernandez's strike zone was just atrocious, right,
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Speaker 3: And it's because they didn't come up on these zones
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Speaker 3: and and be tested on. So I think we're gonna
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Speaker 3: see this a little bit with the older guys this year,
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Speaker 3: and we'll see it. I mean, this wasn't yesterday's played.
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Speaker 3: Umpire was not a new guy. It wasn't you know,
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Speaker 3: Brian had Saturday's game right, So it was not an
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Speaker 3: old guy yesterday. So it's it's it's gonna be fun
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Speaker 3: to watch this year for sure, Tyler.
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Speaker 1: In your experience, how to umpires feel about it, Like,
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Speaker 1: on the one hand, it highlights how rarely they're wrong,
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Speaker 1: but when they are wrong, it becomes quite a spectacle.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I from my you know, like I said, the
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Speaker 2: minor league experience is different, you know, everybody's trying to
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Speaker 2: make it back, so like they're trying to control the
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Speaker 2: game and do all the little things that makes an
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Speaker 2: umpire great, you know in their bosses eyes. But you know,
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Speaker 2: it's definitely one. I think it's the you know, it's
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Speaker 2: the human element, the body language, the looks, like the
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Speaker 2: visual frustration from player, you know, oh, you know, a
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Speaker 2: real dejected like challenge, like you know, no one's gonna
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Speaker 2: like that, you know. So I think down the road,
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Speaker 2: like do we see somebody get into it because of it? Maybe,
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Speaker 2: But you know, it's at the end of the day,
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Speaker 2: like Dan was saying, the younger guys are so good
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Speaker 2: at it, you know, because they don't know anything else.
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Speaker 2: I you know, was one of the last guys that
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Speaker 2: come up in the old guard of you threw that
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Speaker 2: pitch perfectly on the corner. That's not a strike yet
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Speaker 2: for you, and that was okay. So like unfortunately, like
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Speaker 2: you know, you face. I remember facing the Tigers, you
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Speaker 2: know they had when they had I called it murders
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Speaker 2: rough at the time, but it was like Kinsler, you know,
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Speaker 2: the crew, and it was like, okay, I threw that
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Speaker 2: pitch where I wanted to. Now I got to do
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Speaker 2: it again, and then as a game would progress, it
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Speaker 2: would open up, you know, and then you'd get a
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Speaker 2: little further off the plate, you know, And that was
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Speaker 2: the I think that's the give and take that it's
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Speaker 2: hard to explain to, especially a newer fan of the
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Speaker 2: game that's seen this already. There was an earned privilege.
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Speaker 2: I think Buehler kind of talked about this at one
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Speaker 2: point and kind of got a lot of grief for it.
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Speaker 2: But there was a like, Hey, I'm going to hit
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Speaker 2: that corner all day whoever's back there, and I'm going
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Speaker 2: to keep drilling it. And as a game went, you
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Speaker 2: got a little bit more and a little bit more,
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Speaker 2: But it was just it was a known thing that
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Speaker 2: was just part of it. And you know, for me,
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Speaker 2: I wish that was still a thing because it helped,
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Speaker 2: you know, and now we're key holding our pictures into
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Speaker 2: this little spot and you know, it's going to create
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Speaker 2: offense things like that, you know, but it's also going
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Speaker 2: to be the game up being able to get the
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Speaker 2: calls right. And so I don't know, it's the umpires
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Speaker 2: at the end of the day. They're they're back there
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Speaker 2: doing their best, you know, and unfortunately we have the
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Speaker 2: best cameras in the world and zoom and slow mo,
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Speaker 2: and so it's like, oh, look, how bad this guy was.
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Speaker 2: Just like it was one hundred and two, it ran
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Speaker 2: fifteen inches and right he missed it by you know,
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Speaker 2: a quarter of an inch, and it's like, okay, give
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Speaker 2: this guy break.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that is tough on the pictures side. The one
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Speaker 3: thing I thought was cool was justin TOPA got that
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Speaker 3: Saturday strikeout where it was a two to two pitch
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Speaker 3: and Jeffers called it and Jefferson we asked him about
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Speaker 3: it yesterday and it was a pretty funny answer. He said,
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Speaker 3: that was Chris Siegel. I think was the plate ump
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Speaker 3: det No, that was and or Nora said to him, Hey,
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Speaker 3: do you think you think that was a strike and
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Speaker 3: it pops up so fast that it's on the screen.
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Speaker 3: Jefferson's yeah, I think it was, and he runs off
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Speaker 3: the field. Yeah, it caught the tiniest bit at the
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Speaker 3: top of the zone. But I think guys are, especially catchers,
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Speaker 3: are aware that off speed up, there's gonna be that
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Speaker 3: part where it doesn't you know, the tip of the
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Speaker 3: ball comes down and and just catches that zone because
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Speaker 3: the ball is up and so the ump sees it
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Speaker 3: up and thinks it's up, but where it lands isn't
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Speaker 3: always you know, clear. I think we'll see that play
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Speaker 3: out a lot over the course of the year.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and guys will get better at seeing it. You know,
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Speaker 2: it's gonna be with everything it's it'll be a trend
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Speaker 2: and then guys will start trying to dump it and
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Speaker 2: then they'll give up, right.
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Speaker 3: And then hitters are going to react to whatever looking
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Speaker 3: for it up there, and it'll just cause this whole
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Speaker 3: new cycle. So yeah, Tyler, just what did you see? What?
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Speaker 1: What?
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Speaker 3: What? What did you take away from this weekend? What'd
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Speaker 3: you like what you saw from the Twins?
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Speaker 2: For me, the ones that stood out on the good
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Speaker 2: side especially is like watching Byron stretch that triple the left.
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Speaker 2: You know, that's vintage Byron Buckston. You know he came
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Speaker 2: out ready to play. You go play for TMSA, I know,
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Speaker 2: stuff like that's weird. It Like, you know, it's great
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Speaker 2: at playing games, but it's not spring training, Like you're
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Speaker 2: not getting you know, as good as you can. You're
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Speaker 2: probably getting your reps in and taking VP and all
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Speaker 2: that good stuff, but like game speed is still different,
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Speaker 2: you know, and to see him go out and do
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Speaker 2: his thing. It's you know, did that You know he
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Speaker 2: made the play deep in the right center gap, you know,
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Speaker 2: casually kind of catching ball that nobody else is going
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Speaker 2: to get to. So that was really good. You know,
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Speaker 2: like you said, the bullpen showed up Saturday. You know,
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Speaker 2: they're figuring out their roles. You know, there's you know,
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Speaker 2: Shelty's said, you know, we don't really know x y
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Speaker 2: Z yet, but that stuff always team seems to pan
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Speaker 2: itself out. You know, guys are going to be who
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Speaker 2: they are. You know, weirdly have a lot of lefties
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Speaker 2: out there, so that could create some interesting like mixes
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Speaker 2: for them, like whoever matches up well, all that good stuff.
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Speaker 2: But yeah, all and I mean you win one or
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Speaker 2: your first three, you know, that's all you can really
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Speaker 2: ask for. You know, going out and sweeping somebody doesn't
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Speaker 2: happen very often. But you know, go to a team
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Speaker 2: that's probably going to be decent by the end of
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Speaker 2: the year. You know, they got some pretty good ball
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Speaker 2: club over there, and you know Royce had a good weekend.
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Speaker 2: You know, guys are starting to contribute to get their
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Speaker 2: feet under him, and you know it's all you can
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Speaker 2: ask for a week one. You know, everybody's healthy. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: I think that's a big thing. You leave a series
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Speaker 2: the first season, first series of the season, you know,
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Speaker 2: and everything's good to go. Yeah, we had a go ahead.
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Speaker 3: I was gonna say, buck one thing that was cool
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Speaker 3: to happen this weekend was him pumping up Royce. Buck
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Speaker 3: showed some real leadership and it's something you can tell
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Speaker 3: he's kind of growing into, which was cool because buck
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Speaker 3: has always been that energy. You know, you you can attest.
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Speaker 3: Buck is the guy whose energy you go off of
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Speaker 3: and and when he is playing and you're like fired up.
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Speaker 3: But you can tell the importance being placed on Royce
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Speaker 3: lewis because Shelton's made a point of it. Shelton went
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Speaker 3: to Texas right after he got hired and went to
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Speaker 3: get some food with Royce and wanted to see where
17:54
Speaker 3: he was and said that unlocking Royce is key. Well,
17:59
Speaker 3: it's clear that that message has been passed to Buckston
18:02
Speaker 3: because Buckson saw Royce pop out in the first at
18:05
Speaker 3: bat of Saturday's game and he said he could tell
18:08
Speaker 3: he got down and he knows his teammate, and so
18:12
Speaker 3: he went over to him. He said, look, you're overthinking things.
18:15
Speaker 3: You're the best player ever. He's just totally feeding into
18:18
Speaker 3: Royce's ego. Pump him up right. He's like, if you
18:23
Speaker 3: if you're thinking too much in this game, it's it's
18:26
Speaker 3: you're you're doing yourself a disservice. And he said, just
18:29
Speaker 3: get on top of the ball. Let's see what happens
18:31
Speaker 3: next time. Up. Royce hits the two run homer and
18:34
Speaker 3: he came back over and told Buck, I know I'm
18:36
Speaker 3: the best player and then like, you know, and and
18:40
Speaker 3: it was just a cool moment. Bucks at may his day,
18:43
Speaker 3: I thought that was a really good moment for this
18:46
Speaker 3: team because again Royce Lewis unlocking him is so key
18:50
Speaker 3: this team. He will not be batting an eighth all
18:53
Speaker 3: season like they're batting the mate right now. To give
18:55
Speaker 3: him some you know, one, he's working on new swing,
18:59
Speaker 3: and they want him to play his way into They
19:02
Speaker 3: want him to deserve being in the fourth spot or
19:05
Speaker 3: or fifth wherever they got about it. They want him
19:07
Speaker 3: to earn it essentially. You know, we're talking a guy
19:11
Speaker 3: that from August of twenty twenty four to the end
19:15
Speaker 3: of last season really has had it rough at the plate,
19:18
Speaker 3: has not been consistent, and so it's it's hey, let's
19:23
Speaker 3: we know you're capable of this, we want to see this,
19:26
Speaker 3: but show us this. And I think this was great
19:28
Speaker 3: for him to have two home runs the game time
19:31
Speaker 3: one yesterday was was huge in the moment. He did
19:33
Speaker 3: strike out twice with the bases load yesterday. I'm sure
19:36
Speaker 3: he didn't like that, but he he's got even out
19:39
Speaker 3: those career numbers with the bases load. He's got like
19:42
Speaker 3: a sixteen hundreds and.
19:46
Speaker 2: Everything.
19:46
Speaker 3: It's so fair. It's so fair of us to be like,
19:49
Speaker 3: you're going to hit a grand Slam. Do the grand
19:51
Speaker 3: Slam thing?
19:52
Speaker 2: Yeah, do the thing please?
19:54
Speaker 3: Yeah.
19:54
Speaker 2: And like that point, like you know, he had so much.
19:57
Speaker 2: You know, he got hurt and got hurt, and it
19:59
Speaker 2: was just like he's finally like, look, you're playing third base.
20:02
Speaker 2: You're gonna play. We're not moving to center field randomly.
20:05
Speaker 2: We're not playing left or right like you're playing one spot.
20:07
Speaker 2: I think that's when guys can finally like settle in,
20:10
Speaker 2: you know, the the whole team. I've said it forever,
20:14
Speaker 2: but everybody wants the super utility player, but not everyone
20:17
Speaker 2: is that, you know. The Marwin Gonzalez comes to mind,
20:21
Speaker 2: as one who did it better than most. You know,
20:24
Speaker 2: Jose Ramirez technically was for a while. Like it's not
20:28
Speaker 2: easy to do. And so like having a guy that
20:31
Speaker 2: shows up every day knowing exactly where in the field
20:32
Speaker 2: he's going to be, like that takes those thoughts out
20:35
Speaker 2: of his head that wouldn't be there normally, and so
20:37
Speaker 2: it's like, you know, it's it's he can finally settle
20:40
Speaker 2: in and like, you know, play one one sixty two.
20:42
Speaker 2: I won't say one sixty but you know, play one
20:44
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty games, and like, you know, just go
20:46
Speaker 2: ball out and be the guy that you were, you
20:49
Speaker 2: know in the backyard growing up.
20:53
Speaker 3: Uh.
20:53
Speaker 1: We talked about the starting pitching a little bit already
20:56
Speaker 1: and Dan, obviously we talked about Joe Ryan's great start
20:58
Speaker 1: on Friday Show, but since then Todge Bradley saw it
21:02
Speaker 1: start as well. And then on Sunday the Bailey over
21:05
Speaker 1: Mikeable piggyback situation that didn't go quite as well, Dan, Dan,
21:10
Speaker 1: what happened there and what's the plan there for the Twins?
21:13
Speaker 3: Okay, real quick, TODJ. Bradley loved one thing I saw there.
21:17
Speaker 3: Tod Bradley's the guy who's always had one bad inning.
21:22
Speaker 3: He's got this elite stuff. He's got a killer set
21:24
Speaker 3: of tools, and yeah, electric it is he's got. He's
21:29
Speaker 3: just really good and he always has the one bad inning.
21:32
Speaker 3: But he's talked about being a little less stubborn now.
21:35
Speaker 3: Teammates definitely are counseling and working with him, just trying
21:39
Speaker 3: to get him to kind of come of age. That
21:42
Speaker 3: first inning absolutely had disaster written all over. It gets
21:45
Speaker 3: the first two outs, then loads the bases with two walks,
21:49
Speaker 3: and you know, labors through it, but came back and
21:53
Speaker 3: struck out Dylan Beaver's on a ninety eight to get
21:56
Speaker 3: out of the inning, and it was thirty three pitches
21:58
Speaker 3: and it was like, oh wow, that's a lot, especially
22:00
Speaker 3: in your first start. You know, everybody's got the leash
22:03
Speaker 3: in that first start because the build up process is
22:06
Speaker 3: still ongoing. But to rebound from that and get nine
22:09
Speaker 3: to the next ten guys end up with nine strikeouts,
22:12
Speaker 3: that gave them such a huge lift. They were very
22:14
Speaker 3: fired up about that. But yeah, the thing we really
22:18
Speaker 3: want to get into is yesterday, And because I know
22:22
Speaker 3: Tyler's done this before and when he was starting the
22:25
Speaker 3: piggyback and look day off on Friday, day off on Tuesday.
22:33
Speaker 3: So the built in weather day, the famous Midwest East
22:37
Speaker 3: Coast built in weather day for opening Day. By the way,
22:39
Speaker 3: we don't have one of those with the twins on
22:41
Speaker 3: Friday Saturday, and it sounds like there might be a
22:43
Speaker 3: fifteen inch snowstorm coming in on Saturday.
22:47
Speaker 2: Which I didn't even look the weather there.
22:50
Speaker 3: We don't have one in the place you needed the most.
22:53
Speaker 3: But with those days built in, it really screws up
22:57
Speaker 3: everybody's schedule and stand on the five to six day
22:59
Speaker 3: rotation because if you throw in rotation if you want to,
23:03
Speaker 3: you don't want to burn a guy and have them
23:04
Speaker 3: just come to the ballpark on Friday and throw and
23:07
Speaker 3: then skip his turn. So how did they do it?
23:10
Speaker 3: And they looked at it two and a half weeks ago.
23:12
Speaker 3: They devised this plan where Joe Taj and Simon Woods
23:16
Speaker 3: Richardson could start on their five six days, but they
23:20
Speaker 3: had to figure out a way around Mick Abele and
23:23
Speaker 3: Bailey Ober and they opted to do the piggyback and
23:27
Speaker 3: they had brad Or they had able come out of
23:30
Speaker 3: the bullpen last Tuesday in Fort Myers in the fifth inning. Yeah,
23:38
Speaker 3: they tried to get him as used to it as possible.
23:42
Speaker 3: He came in, you know, one, you know, pictures are
23:47
Speaker 3: so routine oriented. They definitely one oh five. You know
23:51
Speaker 3: how to get ready for one o five? I don't
23:53
Speaker 3: know how you get ready for the fifth inning, right
23:57
Speaker 3: because like on we had a game where it was
24:00
Speaker 3: one fifty five in spring training last week, and then
24:03
Speaker 3: we had a game that was three oh one. When's
24:05
Speaker 3: the fifth Like is it two forty three? Is it
24:09
Speaker 3: one fifty seven?
24:11
Speaker 2: And a perfect game?
24:13
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, And and Bailey Bailey came out and the plan,
24:17
Speaker 3: no matter what was Bailey would have the possibilities of
24:20
Speaker 3: innings one through four, and if Bailey didn't make it
24:24
Speaker 3: that long, they would have been brought in other relievers.
24:26
Speaker 3: But Mick was going out for the fifth inning. You know,
24:29
Speaker 3: he got his first five guys out. There was a
24:32
Speaker 3: little bit of it like he was still he got
24:34
Speaker 3: through those five, but he went in some deep counts early,
24:37
Speaker 3: and then the deep counts started happening more frequently, and
24:41
Speaker 3: he you know, definitely started He got the first five
24:45
Speaker 3: guys out, He got two on Tyler O'Neill and O'Neill
24:49
Speaker 3: I think walked or maybe Yeah, O'Neill walked, uh, and
24:52
Speaker 3: then he gave up two straight doubles on one two
24:56
Speaker 3: pitches and the second one was beavers and and it
25:00
Speaker 3: if the orioles of five to four lead. He came
25:02
Speaker 3: back the next thing. Five straight guys reach base. It
25:05
Speaker 3: definitely looked like he was a young guy in a
25:08
Speaker 3: challenging spot because he had an electric spring training and
25:13
Speaker 3: command was not really an issue. And I just wonder, Uh, Tyler,
25:17
Speaker 3: what is that like to try and.
25:20
Speaker 2: Adjust the routine. He You know, it's a like you said,
25:26
Speaker 2: if it goes to plan, it's still not normal, like
25:30
Speaker 2: you know, those guys depending on the routines. Now, guys
25:33
Speaker 2: are getting ready for two hours before a game, like
25:36
Speaker 2: whether it's you know, the massage, the tubs that workout,
25:40
Speaker 2: the whatever it may be breathing, you know, all the things,
25:44
Speaker 2: and you know, all of a sudden, you know, I'm
25:46
Speaker 2: sure he stayed back in the clubhouse like did his routine,
25:50
Speaker 2: but once you got to the bullpen, it's already a
25:52
Speaker 2: different animal. Like Baltimore, Like I don't know how crazy
25:55
Speaker 2: the fans were were not, but like there's fans, you know,
25:58
Speaker 2: right over your shoulder breathing on you. There's the ladies
26:02
Speaker 2: stretching and center field that makes fun of every you know,
26:05
Speaker 2: it's actually it's like the running joke. There's a lady
26:06
Speaker 2: out there who stretches with she picks a guy and
26:09
Speaker 2: she does your whole routine with you, and so you know,
26:12
Speaker 2: it's just a different world in the bullpen. And then
26:15
Speaker 2: throwing the wrinkle of Okay, here's a long inning, here's
26:17
Speaker 2: a quick inning. All right, you have the next inning.
26:20
Speaker 2: You know, did he get all his throws in whatever?
26:22
Speaker 2: I'm sure he was ready to pitch. But mentally it's
26:26
Speaker 2: it's everything's just sped up. You're moving a little quicker,
26:29
Speaker 2: whether you want to or not. And then you come
26:31
Speaker 2: into a game where it's you know, it's a tight game,
26:34
Speaker 2: you know, where it's like you got to be on
26:35
Speaker 2: and it's like as a starter, like I remember Vivili,
26:38
Speaker 2: like first pitches of outings, like you know, day game
26:40
Speaker 2: at target field and you're like taking that breath, You're like,
26:43
Speaker 2: all right, just throw a strike here, you know, get
26:45
Speaker 2: the first one out of the lay and like you
26:47
Speaker 2: don't have that coming out of the bullpen, like it's
26:49
Speaker 2: every pitch is life or death, you know, essentially, and
26:53
Speaker 2: so it's it's stressful. And to that point, he never
26:58
Speaker 2: to me he didn't look comfortable like he he was
27:00
Speaker 2: just like he was just going and he was hot
27:02
Speaker 2: and ready and stuff was good. You know, he throws
27:05
Speaker 2: ninety six ninety seven, so like it's gonna look fine.
27:08
Speaker 2: But I would I guarantee, you know, off the without
27:11
Speaker 2: a microphone in his face, he probably tell you that, yeah,
27:13
Speaker 2: I didn't feel sharp or whatever it was in the
27:15
Speaker 2: moment and facing the lineup like that with some big
27:19
Speaker 2: bats and things like that, like you miss a couple
27:21
Speaker 2: of times, like you're gonna get hurt, and you know,
27:23
Speaker 2: that's kind of how it went, and you know, luckily
27:26
Speaker 2: they came back and battled. But it was just, you know,
27:28
Speaker 2: it was one of those things where in the moment
27:30
Speaker 2: the piggyback, it always sounds great, and you know sometimes
27:34
Speaker 2: like yeah, we can cover this whole game, and then
27:36
Speaker 2: next thing, you know, the guy goes one inning, and
27:38
Speaker 2: then the next guy goes two, and then the bullpen
27:40
Speaker 2: covers six, you know, and it's just I've seen that
27:42
Speaker 2: more times than I've seen it go well. But you know,
27:45
Speaker 2: it's you got to get guys work, and I understand
27:48
Speaker 2: all that. But you know, sometimes it's just maybe find
27:51
Speaker 2: a better way, you know, just throw live on the field,
27:53
Speaker 2: you know, guys who aren't playing that day, just go
27:55
Speaker 2: stand in the box, you know something.
27:57
Speaker 3: But it's funny.
27:59
Speaker 2: It's a tough spot.
28:00
Speaker 3: Yeah. The crazy part is is if this snowstorm does
28:03
Speaker 3: hit us, and I don't know, you never know Midwest weather,
28:07
Speaker 3: but if there's a snowstorm that hits Saturday, that's when
28:11
Speaker 3: I believe these guys are ready to go again Friday, Saturday,
28:14
Speaker 3: able and uh and Ober. And if the snowstorm comes
28:19
Speaker 3: in and just wrecks this plan because it it does
28:21
Speaker 3: like from a strategic thought, keeping your guys on five
28:26
Speaker 3: six days especially, they didn't want Joe Ryan to be
28:29
Speaker 3: on a seven eight day plan. They didn't want Taj
28:31
Speaker 3: Bradley on a seven eight day plan. Keeping everybody as
28:34
Speaker 3: close to five six days as possible early on, that's
28:37
Speaker 3: that's really that is that can be advantageous because then
28:42
Speaker 3: the next time out they build up and they're they're
28:44
Speaker 3: just the body that routine is critical.
28:47
Speaker 2: And and yeah, so you got to survive what the
28:50
Speaker 2: first two weeks is, right, like they kind of after
28:53
Speaker 2: the first week or so, it's over with. But yeah,
28:55
Speaker 2: it's it's every year. Like I remember, like I think
28:58
Speaker 2: it's like Mike Baneda and Kent and like we had
29:00
Speaker 2: like some veterans who weren't going to come out of
29:03
Speaker 2: the bullpen and it's like what do we do?
29:06
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it was Canada and who's the lefty man?
29:10
Speaker 2: It was uh oh from Texas.
29:13
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, but they they piggybacked and came in and
29:19
Speaker 3: uh man, it was like it's just odd.
29:23
Speaker 2: Like yeah, and you know they don't like feel fine,
29:26
Speaker 2: but you don't. You're not you're not settled in, like you're.
29:29
Speaker 3: Just not just And for Mick, he's such a young guy,
29:32
Speaker 3: like he's still trying to find his food.
29:35
Speaker 2: It's like, here's a curve ball ye opening day for
29:39
Speaker 2: you this year, you know because what he debuted last season.
29:42
Speaker 3: Correct, yeah he did and he got like but he
29:47
Speaker 3: also pitched at the bullpen one time and it was
29:49
Speaker 3: a disaster for them last year.
29:52
Speaker 2: You know.
29:52
Speaker 3: It's definitely and Derek Shelton said, we knew it was
29:56
Speaker 3: gonna be challenging, Like this wasn't something we did like
29:59
Speaker 3: they we're going to go into this thinking all right,
30:02
Speaker 3: we're doing this plan. I think that you know, team
30:05
Speaker 3: manages this game totally different if they don't have this
30:09
Speaker 3: schedule because you go that bullpen early. And even though
30:12
Speaker 3: they had the long day on Saturday as a group,
30:14
Speaker 3: they had and they have a game today, they have
30:16
Speaker 3: a day off on Tuesday, so you can get out
30:18
Speaker 3: there and manage it different. But you know, with the
30:21
Speaker 3: plan in place, they had to kind of go with it.
30:22
Speaker 3: And it was like every time Abel came kept coming
30:25
Speaker 3: back out, Like the eighth innner, I remember thinking I
30:28
Speaker 3: was back again, and I.
30:30
Speaker 2: Did look up and I was like, I was just
30:31
Speaker 2: expecting it to be a reliever at that point, because.
30:33
Speaker 3: Yeah, there was a long SEVN. Yeah that was the
30:36
Speaker 3: wal they're challenging and where where they loaded the bases
30:39
Speaker 3: they got, you know, they got to run to make
30:41
Speaker 3: it eight six, and it was a long delay for Able,
30:45
Speaker 3: which is good to give him those variables to work
30:48
Speaker 3: with and see how he responds. But he came back
30:51
Speaker 3: and two first two guys got on and they went
30:53
Speaker 3: to Anthony Bonda.
30:54
Speaker 2: So yeah, I like, like I mentioned, sew Banda works out.
31:00
Speaker 2: He's I played with him, I think two different teams,
31:04
Speaker 2: and he's got some some So I mean he's electric
31:07
Speaker 2: at times like he was up to ninety seven when
31:09
Speaker 2: I was with them Meal. It's just like all the
31:12
Speaker 2: things and like we got, like I said, we got
31:14
Speaker 2: a bunch of bunch of arms out there with some possibility,
31:16
Speaker 2: so you never know.
31:20
Speaker 1: We are. Where are you doing Kansas City?
31:22
Speaker 3: And is it an Abean?
31:23
Speaker 2: No?
31:24
Speaker 3: No, this would be home. I'm I'm at the home base.
31:26
Speaker 3: Nobody went to Nobody went to Kansas City the whole beat.
31:30
Speaker 3: There's a few people, there's a few backup riders there,
31:33
Speaker 3: but there's nobody on the beat because the home opener.
31:36
Speaker 3: Plus I'll just give my quick spiel, there's two days
31:40
Speaker 3: off on this road trip. I don't think using nine
31:43
Speaker 3: hotel nights to cover six games is very efficient. So
31:47
Speaker 3: I skipped Kansas City because tomorrow they're off and I
31:50
Speaker 3: really didn't want to, Like it's the start of the year.
31:52
Speaker 3: This meant like four days at home before I go
31:55
Speaker 3: to Minnesota for the the home road trip for me,
32:00
Speaker 3: So yeah, I skipped.
32:02
Speaker 2: You'll get.
32:04
Speaker 1: Yes, Well, the Twins are there today Monday afternoon, game
32:10
Speaker 1: day off, Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday finish up before that
32:13
Speaker 1: home opener, and apparently a fifteen inch snowstorm, so maybe
32:16
Speaker 1: I should just stay in Home Springs.
32:18
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, what where's Derek Shelton give be though? After
32:23
Speaker 3: the ejection yesterday? Is he gonna be there today? And
32:26
Speaker 3: we should cover this real quick, that Derek Shelton injection
32:29
Speaker 3: the first history. He was pissed off the Josh Bell
32:41
Speaker 3: getting called out running out of the baseline. Early on
32:45
Speaker 3: you could tell he was pissed. Bell was diplomatic about
32:47
Speaker 3: it because he likes the umpire and make the call.
32:50
Speaker 3: He said, uh, But Shelton didn't think that Bell moved
32:54
Speaker 3: three feet out of the way to run, and he
32:59
Speaker 3: like he may be in a step or two inside
33:01
Speaker 3: the line, but it wasn't like the third basement. The
33:03
Speaker 3: ground ball took him into Bell. But the interesting part was,
33:08
Speaker 3: and I didn't see this, but Shelton mentioned it after
33:10
Speaker 3: the game, was he tagged him with the glove, but
33:12
Speaker 3: the ball was in his hand in the third baseman's hand.
33:16
Speaker 2: Twice.
33:17
Speaker 3: But because the play, because it's one of those weird
33:20
Speaker 3: plays where the ball is in front of umpires, it
33:24
Speaker 3: can't be challenged, so there's no way to challenge it.
33:28
Speaker 3: So they have to just go if the vampire's calling,
33:30
Speaker 3: so Shelton was pissed about that in the first place.
33:33
Speaker 3: But then the ninth inning, Ryan Helsley threw. It was
33:38
Speaker 3: the three to two pitch to Bell who thought he'd
33:41
Speaker 3: walked on three to one, and there was a challenge
33:44
Speaker 3: by their catcher and got overturned, so it was three
33:46
Speaker 3: to two and Hellsley called for the challenge too. And
33:51
Speaker 3: I looked at the replay this morning, and Shelton said
33:54
Speaker 3: afterwards it didn't feel like it was. It felt like
33:57
Speaker 3: it was more than three seconds. You have three seconds.
33:59
Speaker 3: I watched it. It probably happened about a second and
34:02
Speaker 3: a half two seconds in, but it was weird because
34:06
Speaker 3: Hellsley first goes to adjust the cap, which he does
34:10
Speaker 3: after he throws, and then he tapped it. But like
34:13
Speaker 3: Bell said, I was halfway in the first place. Yeah,
34:16
Speaker 3: And Shelton was pissed and didn't think he got the
34:20
Speaker 3: ejection or didn't think he got the challenging and time.
34:24
Speaker 3: I mean, it was definitely it seemed it wasn't the
34:29
Speaker 3: smoothest challenge I guess.
34:31
Speaker 2: Right, well, and that's what I don't know. I mean,
34:34
Speaker 2: I feel like across the league or the league will
34:38
Speaker 2: have to figure out something because like there's even one.
34:41
Speaker 2: I think it was a guy still second, Jeffers was
34:44
Speaker 2: catching and like it was a strike, like at least
34:49
Speaker 2: to the eye. Throws down and then Jeffers is like
34:53
Speaker 2: looking like wait, what did you call that? And so
34:55
Speaker 2: like in those moments, it's like, all right, so how
34:57
Speaker 2: do we figure this out? Because there's only one guy
34:59
Speaker 2: that I can call that one, like the picture can't
35:01
Speaker 2: because like there's so much going on. The hitter to
35:05
Speaker 2: that point probably isn't gonna challenge either, but the catcher
35:08
Speaker 2: has to have some time. Like that'll be an interesting
35:11
Speaker 2: one for me to see, like how they figure that
35:13
Speaker 2: one out, Like they have like a flag they can
35:15
Speaker 2: whip out of their pocket, like throw and throw it
35:18
Speaker 2: kind of thing, because like otherwise, like we're just gonna
35:21
Speaker 2: get burned now if guys are stealing, you know, and
35:23
Speaker 2: like it's just a if we're gonna do it, we
35:25
Speaker 2: need to make sure we can do it on every pitch,
35:27
Speaker 2: you know. I think that's gonna become the issue.
35:30
Speaker 3: Yeah, that that is, That's a play that happens frequently.
35:33
Speaker 3: We're gearing up. Yeah, the catcher gears up for that
35:37
Speaker 3: storm base.
35:37
Speaker 2: They turn you know, blocking view and whatever and it's
35:40
Speaker 2: like now that you know, I can maybe see it,
35:43
Speaker 2: So maybe that's where like, hey, on this play you
35:46
Speaker 2: can call, but it's still probably be wrong from the
35:49
Speaker 2: picture's point of view.
35:50
Speaker 3: And and man, I mean we're talking some balls are
35:52
Speaker 3: right down the middle to get missed.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, like historically speaking, it's like good pitches, like quality strikes,
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Speaker 2: and then it's just and yeah, you know that's if
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Speaker 2: we're trying to fix it, like those are really the
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Speaker 2: ones that should be available to fix as well.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, there will be some things. Remember when when we
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Speaker 3: changed the definition of a catch for a little bit
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Speaker 3: in like twenty fourteen, and it was like the transfer rule,
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Speaker 3: and it was, Yeah, there was some craziness for the
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Speaker 3: first week or two, and then there was there was
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Speaker 3: craziness involved when blocking the plate with the catcher when
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Speaker 3: that will change. And I still remember Rob Ventura getting
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Speaker 3: ejected for the White Sox and kicking dirt on home
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Speaker 3: plate and it was so it was twenty fourteen and
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Speaker 3: we had this going on. It was amazing. So Shelton
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Speaker 3: got his money's worth, got ejected.
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Speaker 2: And crazy getting in trouble.
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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, So that I thought that just encapsulated
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Speaker 3: this perfectly wild weekend because look, hey, the one thing
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Speaker 3: to take away from all this is the Twins are
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Speaker 3: a lot more entertaining. I'm imagining fans found them a
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Speaker 3: lot more entertaining. Again, and when your team payrolls one
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Speaker 3: oh five ten millions going to Carlos Korea in Houston
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Speaker 3: twenty one millions being Pablo Lopez on the IL, expectations
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Speaker 3: are pretty low with the seventy five million dollar group,
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Speaker 3: but it's at least interesting.
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Speaker 2: Like seventeen, that's all I gotta say. Twenty seventeen, right, yeah,
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Speaker 2: we lost one hundred and three and sixteen, right, one
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Speaker 2: hundred and three games or something like that.
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Speaker 3: I was still covering the White Sox. I remember being
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Speaker 3: shocked to you guys in twenty seventeen.
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Speaker 2: It was a bunch of young guys don't know any better.
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Speaker 2: You know, things can happen.
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Speaker 3: It was, you know what, it was the loss of
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Speaker 3: Hime Garcia that fired you guys up. He was really
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Speaker 3: trusted teammate for those three four days that you had him,
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Speaker 3: and you guys.
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Speaker 2: Are, Yeah, what a weird trade deadline that one was?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, Kinsler gets traded, your all star gets traded.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, then we rallied the troops.
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Speaker 1: Well, we could talk for hours here, but I think
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Speaker 1: we will. We'll call this one an episode, and uh,
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Speaker 1: we'll get back to baseball today this afternoon. Twins at
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Speaker 1: Royals home opener Friday. I think I already mentioned all that.
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Speaker 1: Thank you very much Tyler for coming on today.
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Speaker 3: Thank you to Dan.
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Speaker 1: If you liked what you heard today, please hit the
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Speaker 1: and we look forward to seeing you next time.
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Speaker 2: On Twin City's territory. Thanks very much,