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90 Nightmare Bigfoot Encounter in a Holler of West Virginia · The Eye of Jupiter Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Welcome back to the I Jupiter Podcast. This is episode
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  Speaker 1: number ninety with Chester Smith. I reached out to him
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  Speaker 1: as if he had any encounters and said, yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: have a I've had some bigfoot encounters Rake Haunted House
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  Speaker 1: and we got into his big foot encounter and it
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  Speaker 1: is by far the scariest that I've ever heard on
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  Speaker 1: a podcast. He's told me he's been on others. Maybe
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  Speaker 1: I just haven't run it across, haven't ran across it yet,
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  Speaker 1: but for me, it is really scary and I wasn't
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  Speaker 1: expecting it, So you know that it was fantastic that
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  Speaker 1: he was able to share that with me. Thank you
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  Speaker 1: so much. Chester. If you guys want to share your encounters,
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  Speaker 1: the great and powerful Chester Smith.
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  Speaker 2: Tell good buddy, it is a pleasure and an honor
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  Speaker 2: to be on your show. And by the way, congratulations
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  Speaker 2: on the fifteen hundred subscribers. That is definitely a seat
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  Speaker 2: to achieve.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you man, Thank you. So yeah, so dude, so
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  Speaker 1: you you accepted my invitation, just manage other briefly in
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  Speaker 1: the in the backstage or in the green room area
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  Speaker 1: as I call it, tell me a little bit about
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  Speaker 1: yourself and you know where we can find you or
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  Speaker 1: in things of that nature.
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  Speaker 2: Well, right now, I'm a cryptid researcher, mainly Bigfoot in
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  Speaker 2: the Middle Tennessee area, and I've got a partner that
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  Speaker 2: goes out with me and we've had several experiences in
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  Speaker 2: the Middle Tennessee area and some of the national parks.
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  Speaker 2: I've done campouts with groups in the LBL area, Okay,
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  Speaker 2: And while we're out there, I was in the tent
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  Speaker 2: and I kept hearing something snapping its jaw set out
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  Speaker 2: shut right outside the tent, and I'm like, oh, reach
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  Speaker 2: down and grabbing my forty five because there was a
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  Speaker 2: bear and her two cubs outside of our yeah, walking
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  Speaker 2: around out there. But also while I was out at LBL,
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  Speaker 2: I was out in the middle of a parking area
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  Speaker 2: and it was just me and my friends and I'm
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  Speaker 2: looking at them and I get hit in the middle
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  Speaker 2: of my back by a rock. And it happened twice.
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  Speaker 2: And there was no trees there were anything could have
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  Speaker 2: fallen out. Wow, definitely some activity out in the LVO area.
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  Speaker 1: Well, most certainly. I've never I've always heard, like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: the rocks being thrown, but I've never actually heard of
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  Speaker 1: someone being actually struck by a rock, So that's that's
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  Speaker 1: new to me.
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  Speaker 2: It was a small rock, but I mean it had
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  Speaker 2: some force to it. I'm glad it wouldn't any bigger.
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  Speaker 2: Is this a small pebble?
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  Speaker 1: Being in Middle Tennessee, you probably know who Harley Owens is,
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  Speaker 1: who is in eastern Tennessee, and you probably know who
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  Speaker 1: Harley Owens is also a big researcher out there that
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  Speaker 1: I know of. Yeah, oh yeah, But then you probably
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  Speaker 1: know who Darryl Dedon is and Martin Groves, and yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I've met there a couple of times. Me and him
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  Speaker 2: are good friends.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, cool. Yeah, he's a great guy, great guy. He
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  Speaker 1: always always helps me out and he always has been
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  Speaker 1: very friendly and has had a lot of encounters as well.
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  Speaker 1: So take me back to the beginning. What got you
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  Speaker 1: interested in being a researcher?
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  Speaker 2: Okay, back in nineteen eighty eight. I'm gonna I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I've told this story several times, so I'm going to
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  Speaker 2: just get through the highlights. I hiked in the Appalachian
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  Speaker 2: Mountains and it was in Kanos City. It was behind
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  Speaker 2: the Canal Mall, which is not there anymore, but behind
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  Speaker 2: the Cannam Mall, you cross the set of railroad tracks
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  Speaker 2: and there's a road there. It's not Cork, but Cork
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  Speaker 2: will with the other direction. I can't remember the name
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  Speaker 2: of the road, but I'd go up fifty seventh Street,
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  Speaker 2: and that's where I lived, is up there in the holler.
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  Speaker 2: And if anybody don't know what a holler is. Before phones,
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  Speaker 2: they would holler down the hill to get their kids
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  Speaker 2: come in for lunch and dinner.
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  Speaker 1: I had to call them. I just thought it was
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  Speaker 1: a small valley. But okay, sure, that's good. I didn't
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  Speaker 1: know that with houses all up through there. A lot
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  Speaker 1: of them are halfway the side of the mountain.
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  Speaker 2: And they would just holler down the hill to get
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  Speaker 2: the kids come in, and that's how they But anyway,
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  Speaker 2: I lived in the holler and up in that area,
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  Speaker 2: the kids did not play in the woods. I didn't
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  Speaker 2: know why. I mean, I grew up in the mountains
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  Speaker 2: and stuff. Well, my grandpa he lived in Kaplan, West Virginia,
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  Speaker 2: and we used to visit him a lot. He'd had
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  Speaker 2: a house up on the side of the mountain and
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  Speaker 2: everything they ate come out of the woods, the water
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  Speaker 2: or the garden. They didn't buy any food. The only
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  Speaker 2: thing they bought with my grandpa's twist tobacco. They don't
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  Speaker 2: make it anymore anyway. One day he come out of the
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  Speaker 2: woods after he'd been hung and he's like sold his gun.
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  Speaker 2: He got rid of all of his guns except for
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  Speaker 2: his old shotgun. And they moved and after that he
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  Speaker 2: kept telling me when we visit them. When they moved
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  Speaker 2: the logan, boy, you better stay out of those wood
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  Speaker 2: or the buggers are gonna get you. I didn't think
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  Speaker 2: nothing happened. I thought he was just trying to scare
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  Speaker 2: me to keep me out of the mountain. So I
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  Speaker 2: didn't pay no attention. Well, when we moved to Kanas
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  Speaker 2: City from rand, West Virginia, the mountain was like open
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  Speaker 2: the door and they are cut in the hillside to
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  Speaker 2: put the house there. He opened the back and reached
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  Speaker 2: out and touch it. I mean he was that close.
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  Speaker 2: I could jump from that cut onto the roof of
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  Speaker 2: the hats. I did it all the time. Anyway, I
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  Speaker 2: would go up that mountain further and further back up
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  Speaker 2: in there, and I found an old logging road and exploring,
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  Speaker 2: I found a gravel road that four wheeler people with
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  Speaker 2: four wheel earths and off road vehicles go playing in.
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  Speaker 2: And the locals called that rush creak. I don't know
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  Speaker 2: if that's the real name of it or off that's
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  Speaker 2: just what they called it. But anyway, there was an
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  Speaker 2: old script mine back in there I used to hang
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  Speaker 2: out with and play. But getting back on track, I
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  Speaker 2: went further and further back in nothingness, and I take
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  Speaker 2: the same route back home, and I started noticing after
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  Speaker 2: a while that something was following me out of those mountains.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it's tracks were on right where I always went.
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  Speaker 2: It's tracks followed it. And then I started seeing these
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  Speaker 2: giant footprints I mean eighteen inches long, about eight nine
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  Speaker 2: inches wide around the house in the you know, in
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  Speaker 2: the grass because in the early morning, I mean there'd
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  Speaker 2: be dew on the grass and the impressions stay right,
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  Speaker 2: and I kind of blew it off. I'm like, well,
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  Speaker 2: my dad's got big footed. I guess that are his.
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  Speaker 2: You know, never thought nothing of it, but every once
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  Speaker 2: in a while I go up there, and I get
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  Speaker 2: the feeling of being watched, and you know, it's like this,
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  Speaker 2: oh crap, f one, Can I get out of the
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  Speaker 2: mountains and go back home. Well, you've got to the
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  Speaker 2: point where I was spending a couple of nights through
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  Speaker 2: a weekend up there and telling my mom and dad that, hey,
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  Speaker 2: I'm staying at somebody else's house and I wasn't. And
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  Speaker 2: that's the thing too, is all up through that collar,
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  Speaker 2: no one had sleepovers, and before dark all the kids
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  Speaker 2: had to be inside or they got grounded. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: they got serious trouble for being outside.
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  Speaker 1: After dark, and that is so unusual what people don't
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  Speaker 1: understand nowadays in twenty twenty five. In this time period,
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  Speaker 1: we were in the eighties. I mean, I'm the child
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  Speaker 1: of the nineties. I was born in nineteen eighty, so
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  Speaker 1: we were always at other friend's house. Even when I lived.
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  Speaker 1: I'm from Baltimore City, and even then we'd had to
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  Speaker 1: stay around the neighborhood. We were still allowed to like
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  Speaker 1: go around and stuff like that. So especially in like
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  Speaker 1: West Virginia where you're talking about, Yeah, that was a
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  Speaker 1: common occurrence to be out m.
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  Speaker 2: Well, actually in the eighties went rather than South Carolina.
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  Speaker 2: My mom allowed me to hop in my bicycle and
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  Speaker 2: ride my bicycle thirty miles along the side of the
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  Speaker 2: highway to go see a girl.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, that was the way it was.
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  Speaker 2: She wasn't even home, she wasn't home. But yeah, they
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  Speaker 2: just you know, basically, they here's your bicycle, you're on
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  Speaker 2: your mind. Yeah, like, if you're not gonna be home
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  Speaker 2: by dinner, you let us know. And well, anyway, this
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  Speaker 2: thing kept following me out of the mountains, and I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: I didn't know what it was. Every once in a
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  Speaker 2: while I would see it way off in the distance,
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  Speaker 2: and I'm like, somebody out here hiking back this far.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it's not a trail, because it was hiking
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  Speaker 2: trails at the bottom of fifty seventh Street that people
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  Speaker 2: used all the time. But I mean, this is just
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  Speaker 2: straight wilderness trees. So I went and I found these
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  Speaker 2: some sticks that were leaning up against trees, and I,
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  Speaker 2: you know, I found this pond back up in there,
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  Speaker 2: and I'm like, camp out this weekend, building a lean
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  Speaker 2: to and go fishing, see if there's anything in it. Well,
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  Speaker 2: this was like in the middle of the week and
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  Speaker 2: this summertime, so there wasn't no school anyway. I also
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  Speaker 2: just recently got this cheap survival night for my birthday,
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  Speaker 2: you know, so I was going to try that out,
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  Speaker 2: and so I loaded up my canteon went up there,
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  Speaker 2: built my lean to, come back down with the plans
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  Speaker 2: to go on up here to the weekend and camping
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  Speaker 2: all weekend. Well, when I went back up there to
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  Speaker 2: that weekend, and I mean we're talking way back up
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  Speaker 2: there miles, my lean to was smashed. It was destroyed. Also,
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  Speaker 2: at this time, I was reading the book White Thing,
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  Speaker 2: because I love reading and it. If you've ever read
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  Speaker 2: the book White Thing, it goes into a lot of
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  Speaker 2: detail about how animals mark their territory.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, it was a long time ago. I mean, man,
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  Speaker 1: I was.
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  Speaker 2: Right idea in my thirteen year old head. I'm going
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  Speaker 2: to rebuild my lead to and then I'm gonna go
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  Speaker 2: around and pee on a bunch of trees as high
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  Speaker 2: as I can and mark this is my territory. It's brilliant.
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  Speaker 2: Mm hmm, no big mistake. I went back home and
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  Speaker 2: the next time I went up there, that whole mountaintop
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  Speaker 2: was destroyed. Trees this big round were broken off six
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  Speaker 2: seven feet in the air and thrown. It's like a
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  Speaker 2: tornado hit it. But there wasn't no strong winds or storms.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I really made some mad at there. So
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  Speaker 2: I pick up a stick, sharpened it into a spear.
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  Speaker 2: I'm scared of death, and i start backing out of
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  Speaker 2: the mountain slowly, and I've got a feeling the whole
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  Speaker 2: time that I'm an imminent danger. I mean, it was
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  Speaker 2: absolutely a truly terrifying experience.
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  Speaker 1: Like it was like a palpable feeling.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, I mean, I'm getting cold chills right now just
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  Speaker 2: talking about it. Every time I talk about it, I
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  Speaker 2: think back on how much danger I was actually in,
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  Speaker 2: and I keep thinking my self, I'm lucky to be alive.
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  Speaker 2: I'm lucky this creature that I didn't know what it was,
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  Speaker 2: and I'm made mad. I'm lucky it decided to scare
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  Speaker 2: me and scold me like a child that it did
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  Speaker 2: actually wanted to kill me because I didn't want to
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  Speaker 2: be dead. I wouldn't be here, I'd be a missing
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  Speaker 2: for one one case. And I think the only reason
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  Speaker 2: why it didn't tear me apart is because I was
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  Speaker 2: a child, and that's I believe that's the only reason
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  Speaker 2: why I didn't die that day. Okay, So i come
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  Speaker 2: down out of the mountains and I'm so terrified. I'm like, uh,
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  Speaker 2: my house is about a mile down the road from
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  Speaker 2: where my friends is. I need to get to someplace
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  Speaker 2: safe quick. So this ravine behind my friend's house was
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  Speaker 2: so steep that we had to dig hand and footholds
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  Speaker 2: to get down it back up. And this is the
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  Speaker 2: only place on this ravine beside this road that you
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  Speaker 2: could cross. You know, the rest of it choked with
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  Speaker 2: briers and everything else and that it's impossible. You know,
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  Speaker 2: a group of expert climbers could not scale this thing
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  Speaker 2: without cutting their way through all these friers and stuff. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: so needless to say, I went down back up, and
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  Speaker 2: my friends were outside, but they were in trouble. They
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  Speaker 2: got grounded. You know, two brothers are always fighting, so
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  Speaker 2: they're always grounded. But they were work and I just
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  Speaker 2: sat down at the picnic table and I was gloud
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  Speaker 2: to talk to them, you know, I laid my spear
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  Speaker 2: down at the picnic table talking to them, and we're
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  Speaker 2: goofing off, talking about girls or what have you. And
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  Speaker 2: guess what, I stayed too long, and he got dark,
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  Speaker 2: and they got caught outside after dark, and they got
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  Speaker 2: into a lot more trouble. And this was this was
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  Speaker 2: a new moonlight. I mean, just black as can be.
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  Speaker 2: But there was street lights along the left side of
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  Speaker 2: the road. On the right side of the road, there
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  Speaker 2: was only two houses. One was an abandoned brick house
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  Speaker 2: that was falling down, and I looked on Google Earth
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  Speaker 2: you could still see the foundation and slab for that house.
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  Speaker 2: There the next house of my friend's uncle Wade's house,
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  Speaker 2: and he was the only person in that area that
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  Speaker 2: owned a dog, and it was a very vicious pit bull.
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  Speaker 2: I mean he had to keep it on a cheap
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  Speaker 2: a chain and a muzzle. But nobody else in that
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  Speaker 2: whole valley owned a dog or any outside of pets
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  Speaker 2: whatsoever for that matter.
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  Speaker 1: That's weird.
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  Speaker 2: I never even saw a straight at yeah, I mean
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  Speaker 2: there was no outside animals.
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  Speaker 1: You know.
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  Speaker 2: You hardly ever saw a squirrel. The only creatures you
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  Speaker 2: saw were birds. I never saw any deer, nothing like that,
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  Speaker 2: No rabbits, nothing. Anyway, it gets dark, I pick up
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  Speaker 2: my spear and I'm like, oh no, I remember now
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  Speaker 2: why I went there. You know, stupid kid, you're gonna
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  Speaker 2: forget something like that. And once you get somewhere safe
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  Speaker 2: and you get a straight right, that's what happened. I
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  Speaker 2: walked out to the road and I started walking down
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  Speaker 2: the road, and it was about two hundred yards Curtis
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  Speaker 2: and Key's mo home down to that brick house. It
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  Speaker 2: was abandoned. And I get to that beginning of that
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  Speaker 2: brick house and I, you know, stop right there in
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  Speaker 2: my tracks. I'm like, uh oh, you know, because I figured, okay,
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  Speaker 2: it's a nighttime, I could sneak home, now, you know,
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  Speaker 2: maybe I could just sneak home lofe being real quiet. Nope.
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  Speaker 2: I got to that house and this god awful smell
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  Speaker 2: hit me. And what was worse is an extreme feeling
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  Speaker 2: of imminent danger. Right, And so I'm tiptoeing past this house,
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  Speaker 2: and I'm like, okay, I still got street lights there
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  Speaker 2: in a couple of houses nearby. If I get into trouble,
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  Speaker 2: I'll just run to the house and beat on the door. Well,
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  Speaker 2: I get to the far end of that house the
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  Speaker 2: downhill side. Now, mind you, this road, the hill is
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  Speaker 2: so steep. You didn't run down it. You didn't ride
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  Speaker 2: no skateboard down this hill, and you did not ride
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  Speaker 2: a bicycle that way. You could get on a bicycle
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  Speaker 2: and it's an asphalt road, but you get on a
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  Speaker 2: bike sickle start going down it. When you hit the brakes,
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  Speaker 2: you'll slide it. Never slow down. It's that steep. In
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  Speaker 2: the winter time. People park their cars at the bottom
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  Speaker 2: of it and walk up, or they stay home. Anyway,
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  Speaker 2: whenever it gets down at the bottom of the hill,
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  Speaker 2: it goes straight, or you could turn right in that
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  Speaker 2: right turns the road that I lived on. Well, if
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  Speaker 2: you know anything about physics or if you ever run
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  Speaker 2: down a steep hill and goes black, your legs give
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  Speaker 2: out on you. I mean you'll write face plant. Right
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  Speaker 2: when I got to the far side of this house,
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  Speaker 2: that smell was really really strong, and I mean I
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  Speaker 2: was shaking. I was terrified. I heard something move in
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  Speaker 2: the bushes beside this house, and I look over and
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  Speaker 2: in the street light, I see it start standing up,
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  Speaker 2: and it keeps getting taller and taller. Now, the wall
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  Speaker 2: on this house was about eight feet. This thing stood
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  Speaker 2: up and it showed were even with that eight foot wall,
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  Speaker 2: it was over eight feet tall, and I mean it
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  Speaker 2: was broad as can be. I could tell in the
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  Speaker 2: lighting that it wasn't covered at fur. It was covered
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  Speaker 2: in hair, and the hair seemed to be longer in
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  Speaker 2: its arms. And I couldn't see its hands. They were
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  Speaker 2: so its arms were so long. Its hands were down
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  Speaker 2: in the bushes, and the bushes were like you know,
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  Speaker 2: oh about chest patty, and we said before I have
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  Speaker 2: feet tall, and its hands were down and I couldn't
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  Speaker 2: see them. I sat there and I looked, and I
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  Speaker 2: could locked eyes with this thing for a good four seconds,
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  Speaker 2: and then it lets out the screaming roar. That's like
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  Speaker 2: like a physical hit. And it wasn't a roar, it
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  Speaker 2: wasn't a scream. It was a combination of a both.
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  Speaker 2: I felt the physical force hit me in the chest,
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: and it hit me so hard. I was holding my
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: spear in a death grip. It hit me so hard
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: I dropped it.
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: And when I.
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: Dropped that, it started coming through those bushes at me.
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: And I turned and I ran, and I'm telling you,
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: I've never run this fast in my entire life. Ran
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: with all I had. That thing come crashing through those
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: thick vines and bushes, BlackBerry bushes, and I heard his
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: feet hit that road and it was right behind me.
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: I mean, I could feel like breathing. Goddam, get down
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: to the bottom of this hill. And I was wearing
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: one of those Tony Hawk skateboard shirts there, really really,
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: I mean those.
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: Are top off.
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: This thing grabbed the back of my shirt trying to
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: stop me, and it will ripped back of my shirt off,
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: and I just kept going, Oh my god, dude. I
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: go to the house and that's rip open the screen doors,
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: rip open the front door, slam them shut. And then
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: I dive under my bed because my bedroom was a
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: glassed in porch with drapes hunt of it had like
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: four foot walls and then picture windows all the way
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: around on three sides. Okay, so I mean I had
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: no protection in that room.
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: It was different.
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: Well, I dive under my bed and I'm just hysterical. Well,
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: my dad comes walking in there or stomping in there
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: because I made a big racket coming in the house
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: and disturbed his TV show. He reached under the bed
• 18:07
  Speaker 2: and grabbed you by the ankle and snatched me off
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: and under the bed. And I mean, I'm hysteric. He
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: slaps my face, drags me in the living room, throws
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: me in a chair, and says, what the heck has
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: got into you while he uses a cuss word. Yeah,
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: and I told him. You know, my mom and sister
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: were sitting right there. I said, something chased me out
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: of the mountains and it tried to grab it. And
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: they're like, what are you talking about? Let's chase you
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: out of the mountains. I said, I don't know what
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: it is, because at this time I didn't know anything
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: about Cryptid's.
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: Big right right, Okay, for you, it was like a monster,
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: like some kind of monster or something. You don't know
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: what it is right to me.
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: This was a giant, hairy monster that was trying to
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: rip me in half.
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: Well, anyway, I said, it chased me all the way home,
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: and my dad's like, yeah whatever. My sister's laughing at me,
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: saying I'm lying. And I stood up and turned around,
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: and they saw the back of my shirt ripped off
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: and four widely, widely spaced fingernail marks down my back.
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: And my mom says that my dad put his hand
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: up there and he couldn't touch all the marks of
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: my hand. And I mean my dad was six foot four,
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: two hundred and eighty pound. He was a big man,
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: you know, construction worker. He had bricks for hands, and
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: he couldn't touch all four of the fingernail marks on
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: my back. I mean it didn't leave. I mean it
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: didn't rip the skin, but it was like red streaks
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: right right. Anyway, we had a street light out in
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: front of our house and I saw a shadow of
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: my window and I'm like, there it is. It was
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: walking around the outside of the.
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: House, circling it.
• 19:46
  Speaker 2: It was circling the house. Okay, Well, my dad goes
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: over to the window, you know, the living room window
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: that was over there. By a typewriter, and he peeled
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: back the curtains just a little bit and looked, and
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: when he looked back at space was white. Is a sheet?
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: I mean we're talking Korean War bedroom. Why is a sheet?
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: Okay? Yeah, okay.
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: And he looked at me and he goes, boy, what
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: the heck did you bring out of those mountains after us?
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, no, it is no you know, he goes, everybody,
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: kill the lights and get your backsides in bed. I'm
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: not cutting right.
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: Of course, we're being politically correct.
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he made us all go to bed. Well, I
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: went in my room and again no protection glass all
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: the way around. It just drapes. And I get in
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: my bed and you know, I'm laying there in bed
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: and I guess eventually an adrenaline crash gets to me
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: and I pass out.
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: Well, anyway, I woke up later that night and I
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: heard something tapping the windows around my room and sniffing
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: like a bloodhouse sniff on. This is loud. I mean,
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: this is like if you ever heard a deer blow
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: in the woods. It was like that. Of course, yes,
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: it was like that loud. I mean it was extremely loud.
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: It was almost deafening, but it was walking around my
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: window sniffing, and I was like, nope. I got out
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: of my bed and I crawled under my bed, pulled
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: the blankets down on top of me, buried myself under
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: the blankets and waited until morning. Well anyway, for weeks,
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: I mean weeks and weeks and weeks, this thing was
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: visiting the house every night. And of course I was
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: staying out of the mountains, you know. I was mainly
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: staying in the house and in the.
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: Art, you know.
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: But this thing was outside the house every night for weeks.
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: And my dad he worked for Charleston Parks and Recreation,
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: you know.
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: This West Virginia. Okay, yeah, I got.
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: Parks and West Recreation. We lived in Kanassie. The place
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: he worked was in Charleston. His car that was on
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: the car port before the sun came up, okay away.
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: He went out one day to go to his car,
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: and he went on to work, and when he come
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: home that day he had quit his job. That I
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: guess he did it because he didn't want to go out.
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: He still without the sun being up. I think he'd
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: run any of them that night. They're that early warning.
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: But my dad normally did. He started drinking heavily again,
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: started yelling his scream and smacking me around. You know,
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: he was an alcoholic and he was abusive. And this
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: went on for a couple of weeks. And also back then,
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: they didn't have the internet, they didn't have fax machines
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: or anything like that. So what my dad would do
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: was he would write a bunch of bad checks, you know,
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: go to these places that would cash checks for him,
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: about twenty five thirty thousand dollars. He would pocket the
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: money and then we would move and we ended up
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: moving from Kanas City, West Virginia, down to Greer, South
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: Carolina to get away from this. I mean, that's how bad.
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: It's scaredy.
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: It's the most for me because I never hear I mean,
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: I've heard of like you know, bluff charges and things
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: of that nature. You know, I also run into people
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: who you know, with the orbs, and you know, many
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: different things. You know, everyone has their their experiences are different.
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: But I've never heard such of a such an aggressive
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: encounter before, especially when it comes to to and you
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: believe it's then sasquatch or bakefoot, that's what you believe
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: it to be.
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: Now absolutely, because in the weeks that followed, I didn't
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: hear it outside my bedroom one night and I'm looking,
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: it's like dark in the window, and I'm like, well,
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: where's the street blight? You know, A dumb kid. I
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: walk over and I pulled the curtain open about so far.
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: And when I do, it squats down and its face
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: is right in front of mine in the window. It
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: is I mean, faces are like this far apart. And
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: let me tell you, his head was just it was gigamic.
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: Now, being a man, who you are an adult, I'd
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: imagine you're fifty because I was doing the math, I'm
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: forty five. Yeah, I'm pretty good. You said you were
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: thirteen and eighty eight. I was like, I was eight,
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: So that's five years. Yeah. So have you ever gone
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: back there?
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: Only as a truck driver, I used to drive truck
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: over the road and I would go through there, but
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: I would get chills every time I passed from the
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: Corkle Avenue, which was the road that you turned off
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: the Interstate to go back in that area. Yeah, Corkle Avenue,
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: I got cold chills.
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: I can imagine, dude, I can imagine. And and okay,
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: so now that you do what you do, it's not
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: as okay because that is connected to some type of
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: you know, some type of what's what's the word looking
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: for some kind of drama from your past or what's
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: the word I'm thinking of you? You probably know what I'm
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: talking about. Anyway, that's connected to that. And now you're
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: in Central Tennessee and it's it's so when you go
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: out now to the LBL, because I've heard, you know,
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: Martin Grove's story, the LBL massacre, amongst many others, and
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: it's not as frightening for you to go in the
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: LBL as to consider going back to where you grew up.
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: So, yes, it is. I never go out in the
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: woods alone. I don't ever go out in the woods
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: without a forty five and a twelve gauge period. I won't.
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: I won't go out there without a forty five or
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: twelve gauge and somebody with me I can trust. Okay,
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: I mean somebody I could trust where they're not going
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: to take off.
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: Right right are you? Are you a hunter or a fisherman?
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: Fishing and hunting? But I can't hunt really anymore because
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: I had a traumatic back injury and I don't walk
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: very well anymore.
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: Hey, buddy, I understand I have I don't have what
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: you have, but I'm a former Army soldier. My back
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: is what it used to be anyway.
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: But yeah, I was just wondering if, like, if that
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: what I'm asking, So like, okay, so maybe years later,
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: when you're, you know, in your mid twenties, start us
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: to all to you know, shit and get move around you,
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: you would you would go hunting. So it wasn't Was
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: it like a process to be able to go back
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: into the forest after this happened.
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Absolutely absolutely, because I have to keep killing myself.
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: It will if it want me dead, I wouldn't be here.
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: And I have to keep reminding myself with that when
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: the terror starts coming back over me again. Because for
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: the longest time, I mean years and years and years,
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't get more than one hundred yards back in
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: the woods, right, I mean yards. I have never in
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: my entire life gone that far back in the woods again.
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: Or I can even imagine going back one hundred yards. Man,
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: I can't even imagine that. I mean me, if that
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: happened to me, I would I don't know, man, I
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: can't put myself in your shoes. But I've been scared before,
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: but I've never been that's a different kind of fear.
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: That's a different kind of PTSD, that's a whole different situation.
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: So I think it was also you who wrote me.
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm just kind of not trying to move
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: on and you know, put that away. It's just that
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: that's always well, it's a very frightening encounter. I've never
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: heard anything quite like that, Chester, I've never heard anything
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: quite like that where actually rips the shirt off your back.
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: You also said that you've had. If I go back
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: through our conversation, well, I have.
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: A theory real quick about one. I mean, how many
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: cases do you hear about somebody's out hiking and they're
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: going to step off the trail and use the bathroom
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: and they disappear.
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: Forever, right, that's very common occurrence?
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: Yes, Okay, now most mainly men, you know, guys and everything.
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: What are they going to do when I step off
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: the woods? They're going to take leak on a tree? Yes,
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: so you're essentially marking your territory there.
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: That's a very good idea, dude, you might have just
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: that is a very good point that's your experience. Okay,
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: so you're a young kid being thirteen and you doing it.
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: It's different than a full grown adult with all the
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: testosterone that's within the urine age or within the urine.
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: So they probably see that as an imminent threat on
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: their domain.
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: And you got adult male that would consider themselves an alpha,
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: and they go out there in mark territory that is
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: not theirs as their own. That is a physical challenge.
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: Right right, right, yeah, dude, I mean I've heard some
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: other stories, but like they'll just kind of like I
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: think they were doing the deer drive and the person
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: didn't come back, and they were calling for him. They
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: could hear them, but they couldn't see him, and then
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: they would the next day they would, you know, they
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: can't find him, and then the next day he would
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: hear him again, but can't see Him's father away. It's
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: a one day they didn't hear him anymore, those kind
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: of ones. Or there was one with the child that
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: was on the spectrum somewhere. He was up at the
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: top of a ridge and then minutes later or whatever
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: long not too long later, he was like several hundred
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: yards away and they don't know how he got there.
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: There's so many cases of that, but it might be
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: a very a very good piece of the puzzle that
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: I haven't heard or considered before.
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: So I always tell everybody kick leaves, make right there,
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: and then cover.
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: It up, it up the wood. That's a good idea.
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: It's good because I mean we're up from Maryland. I
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: mean I'm from the like right outside of the royal
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: part of Maryland. We had you know, that's very beautiful
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: out there too, but western Maryland. I mean I remember
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: being a kid hearing some screams in the forest, but
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: looking back, that could have been you know, I could
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: have been a you know, like a cougar or something
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: out there. But it was pretty scary because the people
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: from there had never heard that before. So Pennsylvania that
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: are like, we don't know what that is, and then
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: it just kind of disappeared. I mean, I've had the
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: politic iict encounters I've had. I've had a few a
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: hat Man, but never any cryptid encounters, although they're starting
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: to show the way up here in Mexico, there's people
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: who are seeing a thing called Knachwah, which is basically
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: like the Mayan version of skin Walker. So that's starting
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: to rear its head through here too. And I have
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: talked to Tom Cantrell, who's a friend of Bob Gimlin's,
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: and he was like, yeah, yeah, they're down there too.
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: You just don't see him because the jungle here is
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: so right now in the rainy season, man, you can't
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: see fifteen yards in and that's it. You really can't
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: see anything. Turkey could be right there and you won't
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: see it. And yeah, yeah, so it's it's it's pretty incredible.
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: So now you're you do cryptic research, iban, So what
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: does that entail with you? How do you go about it?
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: Where do you to go? What encounters have you later
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: in life?
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: Friend of mine, we have people that have private property
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: that they live on and they're having encounters and experiences
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: on those properties and we go out there and set
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: and we'll you know, we'll do gifting and things like that,
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: and we've got several pictures of them on the fleer.
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: One time, I had just set my camera down because
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: we were driving the back roads trying to look at
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: the backside of it. I'd set my camera down. My
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: buddy Billy was looking in the other direction, and there's
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: this old abandoned house here with it's got a carpoard
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: and a ship. Anyway, I look over and first I
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: noticed this red colored hand on the corner of the
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: shet up by the peak. And then I look up
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: and it's Hit is looking over the corner of the
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: shed at us. And I'm like, oh, And I didn't
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: even think I didn't have my pistol on that, I
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: didn't have my shotgun on me. What do I do.
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: I yank open the door of the truck and go
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: running after this thing. Well, Billy, he throws the truck
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: up in park and he comes around the hood and
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: he got to see it pulled back as it was
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: running away. Well, by the time I got to the shed,
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: it was in the woods like two hundred yards away
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: and gone. I mean, these things are fast.
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they book it. Yeah, I've heard of many many.
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: Accounts, needless to say. I mean, you know we've had
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: that happen. We've had rocks thrown at us. We went
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: out in this big field, it's probably five acre field
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: that they had just mowed. It had corn in it,
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: and we took my little UTV out there and I
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: threw apples hole over the s field. You know, I
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: just scattered him out like ten fifteen pounds of red apple. Well,
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: we went back up on the hill. The hillside that
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: we set at overlooks the field, and we sat out there.
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: Of course, Billy, he's a truck driver. He could fall
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: asleep anywhere, which makes me jealous. We're setting there in
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: cochairs and we've been up there a few hours. It
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: was about ten eleven o'clock at night, and I mean,
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: he just dogs out snoring, and I'm like, okay, Billy,
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: you're tired. It's time for us to cut out and
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: at home. And he's like, okay, you know. So we
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: put the chairs up, load the UTV up, and he'd
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: go back to his place and then I drive home. Well,
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: we drove out there the next day to check on
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: the apples and check our trail cams that we set out.
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: The one apple that the trail cam was faced at,
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: it was gotten the next morning by a squirrel, but
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: it stayed there all night. Wasn't touched all the other
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: apples in that field. It's like something gathered at all
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: the apples and set down in the middle of the
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: field where I'd put three of them in like a pile.
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: It put down there, and it picked the apples apart.
• 32:47
  Speaker 2: The stems were setting there, all the little plastic like
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: flakes that are in the apple were there, and the
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: seeds were there, but none of the apple neat was left.
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: I mean, they picked these things iculously apart. No animal
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: outing there is going to sit there and pick an
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: apple apart. It's just going to eat the whole apple.
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: Right And the one but the one in front of
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: the trail can was not touched, not touched.
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: It was gotten. The next morning we saw a squirrel
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: steel it.
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: On camera right right right. But that's that's uh, that's
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: that's so you know, you hear that too, where they
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: you know, they're somehow very aware of electronics and that
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: they also affect the electronics too, so that there's something
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: with that too that they do they're connected with it
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: or something.
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Brand News trail camera. I'd use like two or
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: three times. I put it out here because something come
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: up to the side of the house by the way,
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: I live, real rural halfway the side of a mountain.
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: Something come back there and back while the house where
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: my wife's sleeps, we have an air conditioner in it,
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: and she woke up to you know, I mean screened it.
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: So I go back there and and it was like
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: something was fressuring the wall so hard that the wood
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: was popping and creaking. I thought it was going to
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: push the wall down.
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: You mean the sighting or you mean like the framing.
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: The framing was right. The two bi boards were cracking
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: and popping, and I'm like, oh my gosh. You know well,
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: I went out there the next day and I've got
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: pictures of it. There's two perfect sets of fingerprints and
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: handprints on that back wall. They're still there to this day.
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: This was earlier this year. I did it, but they're
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: still there to this day. Where this thing come up
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: and pushed the wall.
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: Wow, if it was daylight, it was daylight outside, I'd
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: have you go out there and take them to show
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: me that. That would be incredible.
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: I can send you a picture of them.
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: I'm also if it's okay with you, I'll pop them
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: on and at the end of the show so people
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: can see it.
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why troblem. Okay, sure, I've got a picture
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: in the sand down where I go fishing. I walked
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: down there to go fishing, and I didn't pay attention
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: to where I stepped and I stepped on the track.
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: Now at the time I weighed like two hundred and
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: twenty pounds. I'm down to one seventy now. But I
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: barely made a dent in that sand. Now, this track
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: is a good inch deep in this sand. I tried
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: jumping up and down. I couldn't do it.
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: Is that the picture you sent me. I think you
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: sent me a few pictures.
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: It might be it's a track in the sand and
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: you could.
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: See the men everything.
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: You could see the person break in that track. Now,
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: I've also got a drone picture where I flew my
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: drone over our research area at the swamp, and it
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: looked like there's somebody standing there, but it's like straight
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: above their head. It looks like somebody's standing there or
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: a log. Well, this area of the swamp you can't
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: get to. You're gonna sync up and get stuck, and
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: you're gonna be in trouble. You're gonna be calling nine
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: to one one. You can't get.
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: Back there, so you flew your drone over it.
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: And I've seen it. Well, somebody, one of our other
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: researchers goes over our pictures and videos and she's seen it.
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: But this thing is standing on the edge of the
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: swamp and it's facing straight where we were, but we
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: couldn't see it because of the trees in between us.
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: But my drone got looking in our direction, and of
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: course I got a couple of whistles whenever I flew
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: my drone over that area, you know, it whistled at it.
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: And then we started seeing rock still up in the air,
• 36:19
  Speaker 2: and I'm like, okay, I'm bringing my drone back before
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: I lose it. Seven hundred dollars drone.
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't believe at it. So you also wrote
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: me that you grew up in a that you grew
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: up in a haunted house, which tell me about what
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: it was.
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: I spent the night in a house that was haunted.
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: And what it is is my ex's daughter and this
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: guy got married and they moved into this house and Arkansas,
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: and I can't remember the town because they only lived
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: there like a couple of weeks. Okay, anyway, we decided
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: we're going to go down and visit help them unpack
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: their furniture and stuff. So we help him unpack and
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: you know, say, every we go out and buy pizza
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: and everything, have a couple of beers not much, but
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: you know, a couple and we blow up an air
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: mattress in this back bedroom that has a concrete floor,
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: and it's got like one of those old walnut and
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: twist nile the furnaces, you know, you twist the naib
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: on it. Then you have to adjust it down once
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: it gets warm up, and then it just stays on. Well,
• 37:22
  Speaker 2: this room also had one of those slide bullets and
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: that you lift up, slide it over, push it down,
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: locks the door from inside and nobody outside can get in.
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: Well, they have this little poodle puppy, and you know,
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: they let it run around the house. I lay down
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: with my ex through sleeping bag overreen. I start to
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: doze off, and then all of a sudden, I'm freezing cold,
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: and I'm like, what the heck is going on? So
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: I pulled the sleeping bag off, and i'd look and
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: that door's wide open, and that furnace has been turned off,
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: and I'm like, okay, so I turn it back on.
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: Watch the door again, gang on it. A couple lay down.
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: This happened several times. I mean, I can't sleep because
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: this door keeps opening and the furnace keeps getting turned off,
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: and I mean, you have to physically turn the knob
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: to turn the furnace off, and I'm getting sick of it. Well,
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: the last time it happened, that little poodle puppy jumped
• 38:18
  Speaker 2: on before I realized the door was opening. You get
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: in here, the door's open again. So I start patting
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: the dog, and all of a sudden, the dog starts
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: growling and physically tracking something around the room that I
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: don't see. I can't see it, but the dog is
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: tracking it and growling at it. And I'm like, I've
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: had enough of this. Pick the dog up, put it outside,
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: shut the door, latch it, turn the furnace back on.
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: It laid down, And it'd been two or three minutes
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: after I laid down. You know how you can get
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: the feeling that somebody's faces up in yours if you've
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: got an earth yeah, oh yeah, the same feeling. And
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, this is this is not good, this
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: is weird. And all of a sudden, I get in
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: my face. I yanked that blanket down. There's nothing there.
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: I get up. I go out there, turn the first
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: back on for her shaft the door. I'm like I'm
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: making a cup of coffee. This is two o'clock in
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: the morning. So I got there and I'm to start
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: making a pot of coffee and it didn't. Halfway done
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: with a pot of coffee, my ex comes out and
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: she goes, there's something going on in that back room.
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: I'm like, tell me about it's been messing with me
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: all damn mind. And so we go, we get our coffee.
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: We're sitting on the couch and a couple hours later
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: they get up and they're like, what are you doing
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: up so early? And I'm like, there's something going on
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: in that room. It wouldn't let me sleep, and she's,
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: you know, her daughter was like, yeah, we kind of
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: waited to see if you guys were to say something
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: like that, because we'd had strange stuff going on in here.
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: And I'm like, okay, like what They start telling me
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: that stuff's then knocked off the wall and things like that,
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: and then her daughter proceeds to tell me that every
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: time she takes a shower, she gets growed by something that.
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: Is not there. Oh my god, dude, well that is horrifying.
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: I've got and I mean, this is like a stone house,
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: you know, it's a stone house with wood frame on
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: the inside, regular roof. So I go looking around and
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: they said the landlord said, there's somebody stuff in the garage.
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: Don't me's with it. Well, I go in there and
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: I start looking in this box of pictures and I
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: find a picture that's scorched of a officer, a lady
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: and a kid, and the pictures the pictures scorched, and
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: it's a police officer, a woman and a kid. So
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: I go back in the house and I go and
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: pull out my pocket and I go up through a
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: door frame and I scrape the wood. It's blacker, it's
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: black underneath. That house has been burnt. I'm like, okay,
• 40:51
  Speaker 2: I said, I need to do a little bit more investigating.
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: So I go into town and I go up to
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: this little mom and Pop's diner because I see a
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: police car outside. I walk again. It's an older deputy
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: And like I said, I don't remember the town. I
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: don't remember the address. I was like twenty three and
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: this way, so I mean, it's been way too long ago.
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: But anyway, I went in and I talked to the
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: police officer, and I said, but if I sat down
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: Tuckey for a minute, and he said sure, And so
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: I sat down start talking to him, and I told
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: him about that house and the strange stuff is going
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: on in it. He goes, yeah, nobody can rent that
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: house for very long. They rarely stay a month, maybe
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: two months. It's everybody's in and out of that house.
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: And he said his one somebody that was on the
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: police force, lived there and he was at work and
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: he did something where he had to go home earth
• 41:46
  Speaker 2: and he cut his wife in bed at the neighbor.
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: So he pulled out his service with him. He shot
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: the neighbor, shot his wife, shot his kid, set the
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: house on fire, and let the house completely. That'll do it,
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: not turn down completely.
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: That'll do it. Man. That that that drama, that trauma
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: is always it seems to be something that is connected,
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: like when something really awful happens. Uh with these with
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: these hauntings, not all of them. Some of them are
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: just you know because it's old or even like older hospitals,
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: and you know, like in the eighties they cut down
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: they shut down the satan asylums. All those places have
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: that kind of thing because of the weirdness that happened there.
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: But that happened in those asylums in the seventies and
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: eighties and a lot of unscrupulous things, Yeah, that happened
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: in there. I mean I've talked to people that have
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: been a resident of them, and the horror story they
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: could tell you that we're done to them in those places.
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: Is I mean it's enough to give you nightmares?
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I can. I can only imagine. Man. So
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: I mean, so even though you're having difficulties walking, this
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: seems to be you know, I just wanted to hear
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: that part. I always enjoy just hearing this because you know,
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: I've had I've been touched by something that reached up
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: between the bed and put its hand on my chest
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: when I was eight. Uh so it got had a
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: door slammed in my face, you know, and all those
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: kind of things that it messed me up. But uh,
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: I just I enjoy hearing it because I don't want
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: to feel because people come on these shows, you know,
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: like yourself and others, and there's a lot of people
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: who don't know how to say it to somebody, you know,
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: because of the mocking and the ridicule.
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: So you know, if somebody laughs at me or calls
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: me a liar, you know. I look at him and say,
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: look here, you have tens of thousands eyewitness reports a bigfoot.
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: Tens of thousands. Now, how many eyewitnesses do you need
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: to put somebody in prison for life? One you need
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: one eyewitness to put somebody in prison for life. And
• 43:47
  Speaker 2: we have tens of thousands of eyewitnesses for a big
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: put But I'm a liar.
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: Mm yeah, the way I put it to him every time, Yeah,
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: from all over. And the thing is too, It's not
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: from one it's not from one area. It's not one
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: type that's being seen. You know, the booger type. There's
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: something that have like the squared dolf teeth or some
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: of the conical heads. It's the ones that are smaller,
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: like in Florida, and then you have them Australia to
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: got the yowie. Then you have they're everywhere. They're everywhere,
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: and I just don't understand why they why they're not
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: being like, why it's not seen as a normal thing.
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: It's like you know, the duckbille platypus. We didn't know
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: what existed the uh, those those large chimpanzees that they
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: found that were you know, lion killers and uh and
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: uh the congo and stuff, and now it's like, oh,
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: it's accepted, but this thing is in right now or
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: in the forest of you know, all over the world,
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: and yet it's still not talked about. And I think
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: it's for me personally, some type of cover up of
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: some type, because you know, we'll think about all the
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: you know, people won't go into forest anymore, all the revenue,
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: all the forestry, uh you know, all the the lumber
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: and the mining, all that will be affected because people
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: are gonna go they need to be protected.
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: Or places a protected area, rightning, industry.
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: All of it, right, right, So it's it's a lot,
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: it's and it's also it would undermine that superiority of
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: every government like oh we yeah, there's some you know,
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: large other species out there in the forest that is
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: just like us, you know. Once again. Uh, his his
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: podcast podcast is one of those guys.
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: Okay, come back on.
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: That's a weird that's a weird thing that you haven't
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: gone on with your WiFi. I've never experienced that before.
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: It's about every five minutes.
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, reboot my phone and my WiFi at
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: the same time.
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, don't worry about it. Do worry about it. I
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: just have a lot to do. But it's it's it's
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: all good, man, it's all good. Don't take it. I
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: won't take it the wrong way. I've talked to people
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: who were on the you know, like the satellite dish
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: kind and some of those gonna be rough too. I've
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: had some that's a really rough one sometimes. But I
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: want to thank you so much for coming on and
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: the shore with me today. Man. This is uh, it's uh.
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: It always seems to have a natural feeling when it
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: comes to it in and it's always about hours of
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: this one's forty nine, so we're good.
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: Nonetheless, a story about Rake too. We were gonna touch on.
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: On the Rake. I'll tell you what can I offer you,
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: the possibility that one time you come on the live
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: show with me.
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: Absolutely that's fun.
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, if we can do that, we'll make it where
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: we you know, maybe rehash a little bit of this
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: and then we can go into the Rake and whatever
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: else you'd like to talk about, and then we can
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: feel some questions on the on.
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: I have experience as a step that has happened here
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: at the house too. My point experiences here at the
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: house as well. She hasn't physically seen one, but she
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: has felt like the the ultrasound or the you know,
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: the ultrasonic sounds and it makes and she because she
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: went outside and it was like messing around out there
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: and she's out there with a show, and it gave
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: her like a warning. It scared the crap hover she
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: come back.
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: In the house. Yeah, my girlfriend was telling me about
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: that she had to hear with sound like radio frequency
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: and and like her hair stood up on it and
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: then I felt like it was coming out of the woods.
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: This is here in Mexico. Uh so she was talking
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: all in Spanish and I'm translating, but yeah, nonetheless, Yeah,
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: that would be great, dude. It would be maybe like
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: the first week of November something like that. I'll contact you.
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: It's on a Friday, on a Friday in the evening,
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: I like your your Central time, yes, yeah, so to
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: be like seven forty five something like that for you. Okay,
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: that'll work.
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's fine.
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: Is there any anywhere people can reach out to you
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: if they want to talk about their experiences or something
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: like that, or it's just that you're just sharing with me.
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: I mean, they can share them with me if they
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: want to. Chester Smith nineteen seventy five at gmail dot com.
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: Chester Smith nineteen seventy five at Gmail. Oh yeah, exactly
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: five years. I'm eighty. It's again justin. I really appreciate
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: you coming on and talk to me today. Man. We'll
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: keep in touch, I promise you. I'll write your right
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: after this and we'll we'll set a date. Okay, okay,
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: and if you can send me those pictures as well. Guys,
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: you'll see these pictures right here. All right, guys, I
• 48:32
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• 48:34
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