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Jesus Calling: Stories of Faith - From Heartbreak to Healing: Kelly Rizzo & DOE · TAKEN TV Podcasts

• 0:08
  Speaker 1: Life Audio.
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  Speaker 2: Whether you're new to prayer or have been praying for years,
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  Speaker 1: In the very, very early stages of grief, like day one,
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  Speaker 1: week one, you can't possibly think about moving forward or
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  Speaker 1: anything in those very early stages. You can only focus
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  Speaker 1: on 10 seconds at a time.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome to the Jesus Calling Podcast. This week, we hear
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  Speaker 2: from TV host and podcaster Kelly Rizzo, who shares about
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  Speaker 2: the sudden loss of her husband, comedian Bob Saget, and
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  Speaker 2: how she views grief and coping in the aftermath of
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  Speaker 2: losing a partner. Next, we'll hear from Dominique Jones, also
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  Speaker 2: known as Doe. She grew up leading worship in her
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  Speaker 2: father's church before joining her family's group, Forever Jones. After
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  Speaker 2: experiencing both success and setbacks in the music industry, She
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  Speaker 2: eventually stepped out as a solo artist and began finding
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  Speaker 2: the freedom to tell her own story through music. Let's
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  Speaker 2: begin with Kelly Rizzo's story.
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  Speaker 1: My name's Kelly Rizzo, and I am a Chicago gal
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  Speaker 1: who lives in LA now for the last almost decade.
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  Speaker 1: I had a business and a brand that I started
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  Speaker 1: many years ago called Eat Travel Rock, where I was
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  Speaker 1: bringing food, travel, and music together, and I was very
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  Speaker 1: passionate about it And then in 2022, when I lost
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  Speaker 1: my husband, everything changed. And I still, of course, love
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  Speaker 1: to talk about those things. But now I talk about
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  Speaker 1: things that are much deeper as well than just food,
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  Speaker 1: travel and music, like life and loss and grief and
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  Speaker 1: everything that comes with it. For 38 years, I lived
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  Speaker 1: in Chicago and grew up in the city, kind of
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  Speaker 1: right by Wrigley Field. with my wonderful parents and my
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  Speaker 1: two younger sisters. And it was pretty idyllic. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: a wonderful childhood. I was actually a realtor with my
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  Speaker 1: parents working with their company for 17 years when I
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  Speaker 1: was in Chicago. And after the market crash of 2008
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  Speaker 1: and real estate became very, very difficult, and then after
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  Speaker 1: going through a divorce at that time also, I realized,
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  Speaker 1: you know what? Life does not go according to plan.
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  Speaker 1: What can I do that I'm passionate about? I am
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  Speaker 1: so burnt out with real estate. I want to follow
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  Speaker 1: my heart and do what I'm passionate about. And I
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  Speaker 1: was like, I love food, travel, and music. And so
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  Speaker 1: I just started blogging about it. And then years later,
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  Speaker 1: it became a full-time career. After about four years or
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  Speaker 1: so of really putting my content out there, Bob found
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  Speaker 1: me on Instagram and in 2016, the old fashioned way,
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  Speaker 1: as I like to say, and did the proverbial slid
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  Speaker 1: into the DMs. Right off the bat, I was very intrigued,
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  Speaker 1: but a little skeptical. I was like, wait, this is
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  Speaker 1: a guy I grew up watching on TV when I
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  Speaker 1: was a kid. This is so weird. I can't actually
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  Speaker 1: talk to Bob Saget. That's crazy. But he was kind
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  Speaker 1: of persistent, but very respectful and charming and wonderful. And
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  Speaker 1: at first I was like, okay, we can be friends.
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  Speaker 1: But then after a while, I was like, oh, all right,
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  Speaker 1: this might be something a little bit more. I had
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  Speaker 1: never dated anyone, give or take a couple years older
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  Speaker 1: or younger than myself. And Bob was 23 years older.
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  Speaker 1: But the weird thing about it was at the time
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  Speaker 1: we met, he was 59 and I just turned 37.
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  Speaker 1: And unlike everyone, any other 59-year-old you could ever possibly imagine.
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  Speaker 1: He was so fun and so youthful. Age could have
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  Speaker 1: been an exception because it truly just didn't matter with him.
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  Speaker 1: January 9th of 2022 was easily the worst day of
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  Speaker 1: my entire life. Bob was in Florida performing at He
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  Speaker 1: had two shows, one in Orlando and then one up
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  Speaker 1: in like St. Augustine, Ponte Vedra, it was called. And
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  Speaker 1: he drove home two hours from Jacksonville back to Orlando.
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  Speaker 1: We talked on the phone almost the whole time. He
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  Speaker 1: was telling me what an incredible show he had. He
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  Speaker 1: had a standing ovation. He did two hours and 10 minutes,
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  Speaker 1: which if you know anything about standup, you know that
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  Speaker 1: that's more than twice the length of any typical set.
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  Speaker 1: And he was just so proud. I was so proud
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  Speaker 1: of him. He was just so excited that he had
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  Speaker 1: such an amazing show. And he got back to his
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  Speaker 1: hotel and we were texting a little bit. I was
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  Speaker 1: really sick at home with COVID. And so he was
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  Speaker 1: giving me all these kind of lectures like, go to
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  Speaker 1: bed early, take this medicine. He's like, just do something
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  Speaker 1: that makes you happy, relax, watch a TV show you like.
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  Speaker 1: And He's like, I can't wait to see you tomorrow.
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  Speaker 1: Love you so much. I was like, love you so much.
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  Speaker 1: Love you so effortlessly. It was just beautiful. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: thank God for that. Truly just beautiful text messages going
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  Speaker 1: back and forth. And then the next morning I can
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  Speaker 1: track his phone and I saw he was supposed to
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  Speaker 1: be at the airport and he wasn't. His phone was
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  Speaker 1: still at the hotel. And I thought that was strange.
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  Speaker 1: I was like, maybe he changed his flight. He wanted
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  Speaker 1: to sleep in. He just had a really long show,
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  Speaker 1: a very exhausting road trip. And I was calling him
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  Speaker 1: and texting him and he wasn't answering, which was also
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  Speaker 1: very unlike him, but not super unlike him if he
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  Speaker 1: decided to sleep in. So I was like, okay, there's
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  Speaker 1: obviously an explanation. He's sleeping in. It's fine. But then
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  Speaker 1: I was like, he really should have been at the
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  Speaker 1: airport by now. Something's weird. So I called the hotel.
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  Speaker 1: They're like, we can't put you through because he has
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  Speaker 1: do not disturb on. And I was like, okay, but
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  Speaker 1: I'm his wife. And they're like, well, we'll call him.
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  Speaker 1: You can call us back. And they're like, same, no answer.
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  Speaker 1: And then it just kept progressing where finally now I'm
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  Speaker 1: like talking to a manager at the hotel and they're like, okay,
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  Speaker 1: we're going to go do a wellness check. And then
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  Speaker 1: that progressed to we're sending somebody to break down the door.
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  Speaker 1: And I was like, that doesn't sound good. You know,
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  Speaker 1: that's not what you want to hear. And it took
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  Speaker 1: like two hours to finally figure anything out. And then
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  Speaker 1: it got to the point where they're like, the paramedics
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  Speaker 1: are here. And I was like, okay, this is awful,
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  Speaker 1: but maybe he had a heart attack and he'll be
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  Speaker 1: fine and he'll go to the hospital or something like that.
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  Speaker 1: And then they're like, law enforcement's here. And then I
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  Speaker 1: was like, well, that sounds bad. And then they said,
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  Speaker 1: the paramedics left, but law enforcement's still here. But still
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  Speaker 1: no one's giving me answers. And it was just so
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  Speaker 1: incredibly traumatic, this waiting game. And finally it got to
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  Speaker 1: the point where I had a friend come over and
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  Speaker 1: she got somebody from the hotel on the phone, like
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  Speaker 1: demanding an answer. And it was a security guard who
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  Speaker 1: got on the phone with me and said, we're so sorry. Unfortunately,
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  Speaker 1: he passed away. And of course I just lost it.
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  Speaker 1: And crumbled to the floor and was screaming. I felt
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  Speaker 1: like a wild animal. It was just awful. And then immediately,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I had to call Bob's ex-wife. I felt
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  Speaker 1: she should be the one to tell his daughters. And
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  Speaker 1: then that's when the phone calls started coming in. And
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  Speaker 1: it was just a whole new world that was so
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  Speaker 1: surreal that I was just thrown into it. that nothing
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  Speaker 1: can prepare you for, let alone losing your husband so suddenly,
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  Speaker 1: but to have to do it so publicly. You don't
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  Speaker 1: normally have to read about the death of your husband
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  Speaker 1: on TMZ 15 minutes after you find out. So it
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  Speaker 1: was really strange and very surreal. I kept thinking, this
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  Speaker 1: can't be my life. But I knew that I just
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  Speaker 1: had to get through In the beginning, I didn't really
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  Speaker 1: realize this. And now this is the advice I give
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  Speaker 1: to other people in the very, very early stages of grief,
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  Speaker 1: like day one, week one, is you can't possibly think
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  Speaker 1: about moving forward or anything in those very early stages.
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  Speaker 1: You can only focus on 10 seconds at a time,
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  Speaker 1: maybe a minute, maybe an hour. You can't even think
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  Speaker 1: about next week. I was in so much emotional pain
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  Speaker 1: after that. I was like, I don't know what to do.
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  Speaker 1: And I don't know if one of my best friends
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  Speaker 1: recommended the book or maybe my sister recommended the book
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  Speaker 1: or I just found Jesus Calling on my own. I
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  Speaker 1: don't totally remember what But for whatever reason, in the
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  Speaker 1: very beginning, I was like, this is exactly what I
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  Speaker 1: needed to hear today. Just little bits of information. Do
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  Speaker 1: not worry. Do not place your trust in anything else.
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  Speaker 1: Whatever I needed to hear that day is what it
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  Speaker 1: gave me. And I just remember being like, this is
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  Speaker 1: the greatest book ever. And for somebody who has always
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  Speaker 1: struggled a bit with reading the Bible, because it just
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  Speaker 1: seems so overwhelming to me, this was just the perfect
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  Speaker 1: bite size, especially after a sudden loss. You're just so
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  Speaker 1: disoriented and you're in such a spiral and you just
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  Speaker 1: everything feels like a foggy dream and like this can't
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  Speaker 1: be real. And the only thing that can get you
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  Speaker 1: through it is just literally like focusing on today. And
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  Speaker 1: then you get to a point when maybe you're a
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  Speaker 1: few months in where you can start to think about, okay,
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  Speaker 1: do I need to move? How am I going to
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  Speaker 1: do this? How am I going to do that? Where
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  Speaker 1: you can actually start thinking about some plans for the
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  Speaker 1: future and for me in terms of moving on even relationship-wise,
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  Speaker 1: took 18 months before I was ready to do that.
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  Speaker 1: That's one of those things where some people might be
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  Speaker 1: ready six months later. This is a no-judgment zone. And
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  Speaker 1: some people might never be ready. And either way, whatever's
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  Speaker 1: right for you is right for you. I remember within
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  Speaker 1: a week after Bob passed, we were sitting on my
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  Speaker 1: bed and My sister said, I just want to make
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  Speaker 1: sure that this doesn't shake your faith in God at
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  Speaker 1: all because of what happened. And I looked at her
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  Speaker 1: and I was like, no, of course not. Like, I exist.
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  Speaker 1: You exist. We're both here. So clearly God exists. I'm
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  Speaker 1: not saying I understand what his plan is. And I'm
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  Speaker 1: not saying I totally get it. And I'm not saying
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  Speaker 1: I'm like happy with this situation. But I'm certainly happy.
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  Speaker 1: not thinking even for a second that there is no
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  Speaker 1: God now because of something bad happened to me. I
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  Speaker 1: have been very fortunate in my grief journey where I
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  Speaker 1: feel happy. I feel very solid. And I have for
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  Speaker 1: a while. Bob was 65. He lived a very full life.
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  Speaker 1: He had the opportunity to make a huge impact in
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  Speaker 1: this world and make it a better place. And because
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  Speaker 1: of that, I felt very fulfilled in the life that
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  Speaker 1: we did get to have together. I remember just being like,
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to focus on gratitude. And I remember at
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  Speaker 1: his funeral, one of his very best friends got up
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  Speaker 1: and made a little speech and looked at me and
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  Speaker 1: just said, Kel, I'm so sorry you got robbed. And
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  Speaker 1: I remember even then, like I'm the most devastated I've
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  Speaker 1: ever been in my whole life. I'm like barely able
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  Speaker 1: to function. I'm just sobbing completely. And I remember thinking, no, no,
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  Speaker 1: I didn't get robbed. How lucky am I that I
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  Speaker 1: got to have him for six years? Then it's not fair.
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  Speaker 1: I only got to have him for six years. So
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  Speaker 1: that was my mentality very, very early on. So having
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  Speaker 1: that perspective very early on was very helpful to me.
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  Speaker 1: And now my grief is, it's always still there, but
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  Speaker 1: it's weird. With Bob, it's so interesting because I loved
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  Speaker 1: him with my whole heart. He was just the greatest
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  Speaker 1: human being I ever knew. And he loved so deeply.
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  Speaker 1: And he told people that all day, every day. Like,
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  Speaker 1: if Bob loved you, like, you knew it. Because even
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  Speaker 1: guy friends of his, every conversation was, I love you, buddy.
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  Speaker 1: I love you, man. He was always telling people. He
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  Speaker 1: was always hugging people and telling people that he loved them.
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  Speaker 1: And that was just such a big lesson that he
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  Speaker 1: not only gave me, but the world. And so for me...
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  Speaker 1: My whole like loving deeply but grieving deeply is still
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  Speaker 1: continuing to share Bob with the world and share his
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  Speaker 1: message of love and laughter and just caring about people.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm very happy with the grief that I still
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  Speaker 1: have because it means I get to keep sharing him.
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  Speaker 2: To learn more about Kelly Rizzo, visit kelly-rizzo.com and be
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  Speaker 2: sure to check out her online community, Comfort Club.com. at comfortclubonline.com.
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  Speaker 2: Stay tuned to Doe's story after a brief message. Enjoy
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  Speaker 2: abundant gratitude this fall as you reflect on God's overflowing blessings.
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  Speaker 2: Jesus Calling, Harvest of Blessings, can help you focus on
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  Speaker 2: your blessings and cultivate a gratitude mindset, allowing you to
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  Speaker 2: center your mind more on Jesus and less on stress
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  Speaker 2: and anxiety. This inspirational, full-color devotional This volume is perfect
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  Speaker 2: for families who want to cultivate a tradition of counting
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  Speaker 2: blessings together, those who are looking to deepen their experience
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  Speaker 2: of trusting God, and those who want to walk closely
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  Speaker 2: with Jesus and begin daily habits of expressing thankfulness. Be
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  Speaker 2: inspired to walk more closely with Jesus as you focus
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  Speaker 2: on him and the blessings he has put in your life.
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  Speaker 2: Find Jesus Calling Harvest of Blessings.
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  Speaker 1: At your favorite retailer.
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  Speaker 2: Our next guest is Dominique Jones, also known as Doe.
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  Speaker 2: She shares how stepping out of her family's music group
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  Speaker 2: taught her to trust her own voice and how letting
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  Speaker 2: go of the fear of failure and the pressure to
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: perform allowed her to be more honest about her life
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  Speaker 2: and the experiences that became part of her music.
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  Speaker 3: Hi everyone, my name is Doe, and I am an
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  Speaker 3: artist slash worship leader, and I'm a mom, a sister,
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  Speaker 3: a wife, and all the things. My growing up years
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  Speaker 3: began in Yakima, Washington. It's a beautiful place, and I
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  Speaker 3: cut my teeth on worship leading in Yakima on my
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  Speaker 3: dad's stage. He was a pastor. And just learning how
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  Speaker 3: and being pushed to the front, I guess I should say,
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  Speaker 3: because there were times where I felt too afraid to
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  Speaker 3: do it. But those were my first experiences with leading.
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  Speaker 3: And then when I turned 14, we as a whole
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  Speaker 3: family moved to Shreveport, Louisiana. And I led a lot there.
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  Speaker 3: But also while we were there, we created and formed
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  Speaker 3: the group Forever Jones, which was our first introduction to
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  Speaker 3: the music industry as a whole. Our first album did
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  Speaker 3: really well and was nominated for two Grammys. The second
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  Speaker 3: album did okay, but not as great. And then we
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  Speaker 3: experienced some loss. We got dropped from our label, lost
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  Speaker 3: our home. It was a whole few years. But at
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  Speaker 3: some point, I decided to try my hand as an
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  Speaker 3: individual solo artist. And here I am. Growing up in
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  Speaker 3: the songwriting family, we would have like prayer every morning.
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  Speaker 3: And so I learned how in real time to sing
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  Speaker 3: instead of just saying something that I was feeling in
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  Speaker 3: my heart, I would just sing it. And so that
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  Speaker 3: happens on the stage with me. If I feel like, oh,
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  Speaker 3: I need to minister this phrase to someone, I'll just
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  Speaker 3: sing it. I always say God speaks more than English.
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  Speaker 3: He doesn't just speak English. He speaks heart. There's a
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  Speaker 3: reason why I can communicate something through a note and
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  Speaker 3: someone can understand and hear what my heart is saying
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  Speaker 3: to them without me using words. I think that there
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  Speaker 3: is a heavenly response that can happen when everyone is
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  Speaker 3: in the room and there's room for everyone to insert
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  Speaker 3: themselves in the conversation between heaven and earth in the room.
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  Speaker 3: And I think that I speak to that from a
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  Speaker 3: generational perspective as well, right? Every life experience, every failure
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  Speaker 3: and every success, everyone has something to say and speak
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  Speaker 3: to concerning the fabric of our faith, the story of
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  Speaker 3: our faith. Experiencing the music industry and learning about it
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  Speaker 3: and being introduced to the industry within the safety net
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  Speaker 3: of your family is a nice little bonus. Being a
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  Speaker 3: part of a family band... And being a part of
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  Speaker 3: my musical family is the framework for how I learn
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  Speaker 3: how to write songs, how I learn how to engage
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  Speaker 3: with a crowd, where my confidence was birthed on the stage.
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  Speaker 3: Stepping out on my own was a huge faith move
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  Speaker 3: for me. There was part of me that felt an
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  Speaker 3: obligation to my family that I put on myself. They
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  Speaker 3: were always really supportive. But it's like you walk through
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  Speaker 3: so much acceptance and rejection together as a family. You
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  Speaker 3: win and you lose together. That was actually so beautiful
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  Speaker 3: because when I was able to tell the truth and
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  Speaker 3: live the truth, I was able to find healing. The
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  Speaker 3: feedback from my albums were, thank you for giving me
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  Speaker 3: language to say the things I was afraid to say.
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  Speaker 3: And I just think that that's so beautiful. And I
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  Speaker 3: was able to shed performance and finally step into true healing.
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  Speaker 3: There's this line that I sang at the end of
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  Speaker 3: Clarity when I was singing live. It just was like
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  Speaker 3: this ministry moment where I was telling people, you got
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  Speaker 3: to lay yourself at the altar. Give yourself. to God,
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  Speaker 3: not a version that you think that He wants. The
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  Speaker 3: thing I learned about myself, though, is that I needed
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  Speaker 3: to get over the fear of failure if I was
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  Speaker 3: going to do anything in life. And I was so
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  Speaker 3: afraid of missing God's will. And so I learned that
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  Speaker 3: my perception of God as my father, needed to be corrected.
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  Speaker 3: And him empowering me in decision making as well needed
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  Speaker 3: to be corrected. And I'm thankful that I stepped out
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  Speaker 3: and that even in all of my mistakes, it got
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  Speaker 3: course correct and course corrected. And that's been my journey
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  Speaker 3: since then. When I began embracing the person that I
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  Speaker 3: am and the person that I'm becoming, through a relationship
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  Speaker 3: with Jesus, it was like a muzzle was removed from
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  Speaker 3: my mouth. There was so much that I was afraid
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  Speaker 3: to say or felt I didn't have the permission to express.
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  Speaker 3: And things that I had experienced through my eyes and
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  Speaker 3: me living in this body as a Black Christian woman
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  Speaker 3: in the South, all of those things, and that God
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  Speaker 3: validated through All of those experiences, and there was redemption there.
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  Speaker 3: But if I couldn't talk about it in a truthful way,
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  Speaker 3: then my testimony would never be able to be told.
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  Speaker 4: High praises be.
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  Speaker 2: To the one High.
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  Speaker 4: Praise belongs to you There's only one on the throne
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  Speaker 4: There's only one on the throne.
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  Speaker 3: I think there's room for my humanity in my relationship
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  Speaker 3: with God, in my anguish, in my pain. There's room
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  Speaker 3: for all of that in prayer. And that just speaks
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  Speaker 3: to me as a woman, as a wife and as
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  Speaker 3: a mother. Connecting with God through prayer just means conversation.
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  Speaker 3: I try not to put a specific routine on what
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  Speaker 3: prayer and conversation looks like. It could mean waiting on
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  Speaker 3: their people. We wait on God. Sometimes for hours, there
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  Speaker 3: are people that do that. There are people that will
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  Speaker 3: just sit in the presence of God and read. I
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  Speaker 3: also believe that because we're not meant to be isolated,
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  Speaker 3: that spending time in the fellowship of believers is spending
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  Speaker 3: time with God as well. And to me, all of
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  Speaker 3: those go into the pot of praying. But what I
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  Speaker 3: do like to make sure that I do is I
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  Speaker 3: like to get a little bit of word and a
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  Speaker 3: little bit of singing in. If I'm just going to
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  Speaker 3: keep it simple, I get a little bit of singing
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  Speaker 3: in and just waiting in his presence. Jesus calling October 14th.
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  Speaker 3: Be prepared to suffer for me in my name. All
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  Speaker 3: suffering has meaning in my kingdom. Pain and problems are
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  Speaker 3: opportunities to demonstrate your trust in me. Bearing your circumstances bravely,
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  Speaker 3: even thanking me for them. is one of the highest
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  Speaker 3: forms of praise. This sacrifice of thanksgiving rings golden tone
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  Speaker 3: bells of joy throughout heavenly realms. On earth also, your
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  Speaker 3: patient suffering sends out ripples of good tidings in ever
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  Speaker 3: widening circles. When suffering strikes, remember that I am sovereign
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  Speaker 3: and that I can bring good out of everything. Don't
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  Speaker 3: try to run from pain or hide from problems. Instead,
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  Speaker 3: accept adversity in my name, offering it up to me
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  Speaker 3: for my purposes. Thus, your suffering gains meaning and draws
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  Speaker 3: you closer to me. Joy emerges from the ashes of
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  Speaker 3: adversity for your trust and thankfulness.
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  Speaker 2: To learn more about Doe, visit DoeJonesMusic.com and be sure
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  Speaker 2: to check out her new album, Shiloh, wherever you get
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  Speaker 2: your music. If you'd like to hear more stories about
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: processing grief, check out our interview with Stacey Hennigan. Next
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  Speaker 2: time on the Jesus Calling Podcast, writer and producer Brian
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  Speaker 2: Bird shares how mentors recognized his gift for storytelling, his
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  Speaker 2: journey from journalism to Hollywood, and why he believes stories
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  Speaker 2: can give people hope.
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  Speaker 5: We are made in the image of the author of everything.
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  Speaker 5: Each of us have a tiny strand of DNA. of
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  Speaker 5: that maker, of that creator, of that God. And our
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  Speaker 5: whole goal in life should be to identify that strand
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  Speaker 5: of DNA.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks for listening to the Jesus Calling Stories of Faith
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  Speaker 2: podcast on the Life Audio Network. Every week we'll bring
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  Speaker 2: you stories from people who share their journeys of faith
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  Speaker 2: and how prayer and a relationship with God transformed their lives.
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  Speaker 2: so others can be inspired weekly by these stories of faith. Finally,
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  Speaker 2: you can find encouragement, resources, and more on the Jesus
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  Speaker 2: Calling website at jesuscalling.com.