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#214 - Alex Jones Turns His Attention to Candace Owens · Brandon Fogal Evolution

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  Alex Jones has turned his attention to Candace Owens.
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  And when you start losing Alex Jones to conspiracies, I don't know if you went too far.
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  But this is very interesting that Alex Jones is now in the game. He's in the game.
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  He's looked at Candace Owens and he said, first of all, he came out over the
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  weekend saying he was sincere.
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  Just please pray for Candace because she's going down a rabbit hole that even
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  Alex Jones didn't think it was the best idea to go down that rabbit hole.
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  Maybe it was a little bit too far. He's changed his tune a little bit recently.
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  Now he's saying, like, he's really diving into what she is postulating and isn't very credible at all.
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  And Alex Jones, I think he is the GOAT of conspiracies.
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  He is the GOAT. He's the guy. If you are a guy and you don't like Alex Jones,
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  you might double-check that you're a guy.
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  That's all I would say about that. Alex Jones is the man with conspiracies. He is the GOAT.
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  He's the one who started all this. He was the guy that was the quintessential
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  person for cancel culture who the left targeted, put in the crosshairs to remove
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  from this planet that they didn't want. They wanted to silence that man.
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  So him stepping into the game of the Candace Owens fiasco and everything that's
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  going on down there, I'm listening.
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  I'm leaning in. I don't know about you. He calls her the Q Messiah has returned.
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  He's going to call her the dark Q. This ties into QAnon, but he's saying that
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  she's the dark Q of all this.
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  And he's not saying it because of her race or being black or anything like that,
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  but just the darker side.
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  And he's going to get into that. Let's take a look at this. I'll just say it.
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  Candace Owens is the new queen of black-pilled Q.
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  It was white-pilled, insane Q that thought everything was fine.
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  I mean, get your popcorn.
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  And now the dark Q has risen. I don't say that because she's black.
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  You know, it's like Foyntes goes, Jones is more hardcore now.
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  He's, you know, he's dark Jones.
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  Dark Knight, dark Spider-Man.
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  Yeah, I'm all good with the Dark Knight. One of the best movies ever.
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  But yes, I see where you're going, Alex. I see where your head is at has nothing to do with race.
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  Anybody who's seeing race and like, let's not be blind to the fact that we understand
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  that people are different colors.
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  Let's not be stupid to the fact, but it doesn't make there are more valuable
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  person dependent on what race they are.
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  Let's not be stupid like that, but let's not be blind to the fact as well either.
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  Him bringing this up has nothing to do with race. I mean, it could be a little
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  hint at that, you know, it could be a little like a play on it. I don't know.
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  But I mean, like everybody can be proud to be whatever they are,
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  I guess. You know what I mean? If you're, you could be a proud white person,
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  a proud black person, whatever.
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  I think everybody is just so used to, if you're white, you can't be proud about it, you know?
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  And I always feel, I always feel a little icky about being the same.
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  I'm proud of anything because I pride's a sin. So it's, I think you're not ashamed of it.
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  Let's just change it to you're not ashamed of it. No, it's literally Dark Q.
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  I dub her the queen of Dark Q, the empress of Dark Q.
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  You got the QAnon, you got the, you know, BlueAnon, you now have Candace on.
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  And I'm just like, wow, gypsum planes, let me go look into it. Bunch of bull.
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  Okay, Fort Huachuca, you know, mass assassination operation planning.
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  Candace Owens, she's throwing out everything. So there's no there there with anything.
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  If you have not been like zoned in to everything that she's put forward,
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  You really haven't missed much because she goes from one thing to the next and nothing ever sticks.
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  And so she just bleeds something to dead and then she just moves on, moves on.
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  So you're not like, you haven't really missed much, but it is certainly entertaining, intriguing.
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  And I know she has milked the assassination of Charlie Kirk.
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  She has milked of getting content out of it and driving out of it.
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  I think she changed the game because some people would have thought.
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  You cannot go there. You cannot just try to, out of this great man who got murdered
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  in front of everybody, that's something that should be off limits for a while.
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  We should not try to delve into it. She went right at it. She has not let up.
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  She's had her foot on the gas the entire time. She's not stopping.
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  So, and I'm not going to say she's doing something terrible because,
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  and anyone that would say she's doing something terrible for talking about it,
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  you're talking about her talking about it, which I'm talking about her talking about it.
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  It's the same thing that drives me crazy when people say, don't,
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  don't platform that person.
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  Don't that's, you cannot give that person a platform. And the millions of people
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  that when, when somebody does give someone a platform, they just start talking
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  about that person. And then they're talking about on their show.
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  So you're platforming them in a sense, and then condemning them at the same time.
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  So I, I think it's, it's unbecoming what she's done.
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  She, she, but she's opened the floodgates. there's
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  there's no there's nothing anything that we
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  cannot touch anymore we are and that's
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  it's free reign for everything if someone in your
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  family dies and you just want to just milk the
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  hell out of it because you want to try to find out and put
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  it in front of everybody and go down every rabbit hole
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  make it so public and then just make everyone distrust
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  anything because you want to just let's call
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  it what it is it's getting content it's getting interest it's getting
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  views which she has certainly done so i i'm
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  i have mixed emotions as you can tell
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  don't look into it easily verifiable horse shit and
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  i'm supposed to then go well what she's doing
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  is popular so i'll i love her her ring race
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  her acolytes her camp followers her praetorian guard they all came out and said
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  jones can't read a room i mean look he's getting ratioed by people that are
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  saying he's full of crap and covering stuff up he works for it's not the most
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  popular thing to talk about Candace Owens in a bad light because, and I...
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  It's not because I, because I, for the longest time I liked Candace Owens.
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  I, and I, I still, I mean, actually like her and I like what she has done.
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  She, she's a massive voice for conservatism, but,
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  her it's these lines that we've drawn you have to be in
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  one party or the other you can't listen to if someone believes
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  one thing and they it doesn't immediately flow in
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  lockstep with what you of the camp you're in you you
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  have to discount you have to hate everything about them i'm not like that you
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  know and i know that's made me the oddball because i'm not a person that is
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  locked up with anyone i think everybody let's just like talk let's talk these
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  things out it seems like the people that are standing by her for the most part
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  the strongest part of the people that are anti-israel the people that dislike Israel.
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  And you can, you can be, you can flower it up.
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  You can fluff it up all you want and try to say, oh, it's not this and not that,
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  or it's not anti-Jewishness or anti-Semitism,
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  you know, but it's, it's about that you're against that way of life against
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  those people, which I don't want to go down the whole Israel thing like that
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  because everybody has just, they're dug in one way or the other.
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  I think we should be able to talk about it, But I just know like Andrew Tate,
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  he is somebody who stood by Candace Owens' side.
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  And it's because he has a disposition, a natural disposition where he doesn't,
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  he's not too fond of Israel.
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  He's not too fond, it seems like, of the Jewish people. I don't know.
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  It's maybe him being a Muslim. I don't know with all that.
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  But I don't know where you all stand on that. I know everybody, it's not a fun place.
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  It's not always the funnest thing to do because you immediately feel, you
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  feel that the room descend a cloud descend
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  when you utter the israel name
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  you utter jewish identity you know
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  israel oh yeah a lie goes halfway around the world where the truth puts its
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  pants on but the truth wins in the end it's i'll be right as always you'll be
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  wrong as always so good alice jones he has stayed out of the israel thing he
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  doesn't he doesn't go there he He's like the Tim Pool of this whole viewpoint.
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  He stays out of it. If it's in the news, if it's attention worthy,
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  he'll give it and he'll talk about it.
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  But he's not obsessed with it. And it's not like they're behind everything.
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  I love Nick Fuentes. I do. I like him a lot. I do like him, but he sees everything.
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  His show, his platform, his viewpoint and where he stands on everything,
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  it's all through the rows.
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  It's through the lens of seeing Israel.
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  Every show is about that identity, you know, and just he said,
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  why have the Jews kicked out 109 countries and by 2028 America?
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  Why have the Jews been kicked out of 109 countries and by 2028 America?
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  Nicholas is a J. I don't know.
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  He's, yeah, I mean, I don't think he's a Fed. No way he's a Fed.
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  Yeah, the Jews, I mean, of course they are, they can permeate any society.
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  That's where they're very unique. That's what makes them so amazing as a people
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  because it shows that indelible mark that God has given to them,
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  that wherever they go, they get blessed.
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  They make a lot of money. They're very funny.
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  They're in Hollywood. They get attention. whatever whatever
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  they touch gets blessed and you can't you
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  can't deny that nick what is nicholas fuentes is
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  a jay nicholas i don't know what that means sephardic
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  jay is a is that as a jew nick nick fuentes is nick would have to be pulling
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  that would be the ultimate psyop if nick if they got nick fuentes to do the
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  things that he's done and they're controlling him somehow i know people have
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  brought up that he's a he's a fed and i do not see that at all he tried to bring
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  his receipts and all that.
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  But really, at the end of the day,
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  it's always just you're you're taking someone's word. That's all it is.
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  But I see Alex Jones, and he's more of the neutral party with that whole issue.
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  So him stepping into talking about Candace Owens, I perk up. I listen.
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  I normally don't talk about Alex Jones that much, though I am a diehard Alex
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  Jones fan. I do agree with so much of what he says. He was the guy that was
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  ahead of everything, and he's brilliant, he's smart, and he's been damned by
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  the entire public opinion.
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  Opinion and that he has come out alive
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  and he's i don't know if he's ever going to make another cent in
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  his life that he that is not owed to someone else because everything
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  he makes he's been like sued to oblivion good i'm the trend setter not the trend
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  follower i'm pointing away and i'm going to now just because you don't like
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  it everything she says and does i'm gonna rip it to pieces and now i'm going
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  back and looking at stuff because i like liked her before nice lady you know,
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  said some fun stuff, whatever.
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  I've really been paying attention to the soap opera world. Now I'm looking and
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  I'm like, oh my God, that's pure crap. Everyone gets sucked into this. If you were, if,
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  And that's why it feels like we are in a simulation. I just heard like Elon
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  Musk is saying there's a huge percent chance that we're in a simulation.
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  It feels like that because nothing ever actually happens, but everything perfectly works out.
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  Like there's so much drama happened, but there's, if you ever actually dive
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  into it and look into it, there's never actually, there's never any there there.
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  And we always give these people more credit than they deserve that we think
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  that the government couldn't release the Epstein files without correctly blacking
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  out and redacting the names.
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  The U.S. government, unless they can't do the simplest things right so that
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  they can pull off, because that's where it's going with Candace Owens.
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  The Israel's behind it. The French government's behind it. The U.S.
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  Government's behind it.
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  Erica Kirk's behind it. Everybody wearing maroon that day is behind it.
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  Egyptian plane's behind it.
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  And everything is just, it falls to the ground. Nothing's there,
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  but it's great content. It's fun to talk about.
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  But if we're, if we're trying to be like, Oh, let's, let's get to the bottom.
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  It's be serious about it. I want, I want the truth.
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  Really? I don't know about that. When you get into this realm,
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  like we can all day and long people say, I want the truth.
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  I want to get to the truth. That's what I care about, which I think you do.
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  But you also, you're just trying to create excitement.
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  You're trying to create and get people to look at you and get what you're doing.
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  That's all, that's all it is. So let's, let's call a spade a spade.
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  So there's, it's never perfect, pure reasons.
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  You know, everybody has something that's driving them. And I think Candace Owens
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  is certainly, she is, she has drunk her own Kool-Aid to the bottom of it.
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  And she's continued to drink it. Oh, my God, that's pure bull.
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  Oh, my God, that's deception. But it's always, oh, just asking questions.
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  No, it's all, oh, they killed him. I mean, that's what it looks like.
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  Oh, I didn't really say that, though. Oh, they're just meeting in Fort Huachuca,
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  you know, and all the surrogates. Yeah, to kill, to kill, to kill.
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  Oh, and when the stuff falls apart, I didn't say they were playing anything
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  there. They were just playing a game of Frisbee golf town.
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  This is what happens when women start taking the reins of conspiracies.
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  And this seems like it's a guy's game because we've somehow allowed and let,
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  I mean, it's not allowing. She's doing it. She's rolling.
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  You know, if she was the man, she'd be the fucking man.
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  She's good at what she does. But as you can see, there's no,
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  there's no, there's nothing there.
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  There's no, nothing holding it intact. It's just, just disintegrating before everyone's eyes.
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  If you really follow along, if you're really clued in and with what she's saying,
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  you'll, arrive at a conclusion that she has forgot about and left,
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  you know, three weeks ago.
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  She's not there anymore. And you're running with something that doesn't even
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  make sense in her worldview at all. She's not seeing that same thing.
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  She's forgot about it. She's moved on. She's on to the next.
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  But nothing is, nothing is ever there. And it's like, you're covering up the
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  foreign involvement, Jones.
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  And I've been since day one hitting
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  it on the mark saying Cash Patel is covering up White House sources.
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  Here's the. Cash Patel, he's been, he's been a huge disappointment to me.
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  Whenever he got the nominee and he sworn in as the director of the FBI,
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  I was, and I should be careful saying this because it seems like they,
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  they'll come after you. It seems like people say that. I liked Kash Patel a lot.
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  And overall, I mean, as a person, I still like him. He stood for conservatism
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  and, you know, right values and was very bold in it.
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  But I think, I don't think, I don't know if I would be able to go into government
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  and come out with my soul.
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  I think they suck the life out of you.
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  It's like, I don't know if they grab the people and they tie them up and they
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  put them into confinement for like five days or something and torture them.
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  To just get every life out of them.
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  And then they repackage them up and put them back out there because it seems
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  like everybody that goes to Washington, they're not the same person once they get there.
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  And everything that they stood for before it, same thing with Dan Bongino.
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  Not that he did anything terrible, but the things that I thought he would have
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  accomplished being there, if
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  Dan Bongino couldn't do it, it makes you lose all hope in our government.
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  What can we actually, what hope do we have in our government?
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  Elon Musk went into it and he came away saying, we fucked.
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  I'm out. We are screwed, everyone.
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  Like, money-wise we cannot reverse course.
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  And the only thing he came away
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  saying was is the AI implementing that can somehow, and that might be it.
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  That is what's going to change the course of our financial situation because
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  it's going to bring so much plentifulness and resources and all that.
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  I was blackpilled with our financial situation with Elon Musk.
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  If he said he got in there and Doge, it really, it like...
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  It like took a little, a little pick and just chipped off something on an iceberg,
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  which is like, it did nothing really,
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  you know, it, it, it brought things to light, but it just showed us our dire
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  situation and Dan Bongino just bouncing out of the government right there and
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  without nothing really to show for it.
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  And then our legal system is that terrible, you know, it's that corrupt.
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  I think we give them a lot more credit than they deserve because they can't
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  pull off things that we just think that they're doing. And I've been guilty of this myself.
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  I build them up, and I think that they're doing so many things amazing.
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  I think that they're doing so many things that are just incredible,
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  that they're able to pull off these massive jobs, these massive conspiracies
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  that everybody's involved, and I just give them a lot more credit than they deserve,
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  which there's so much red tape that nobody can really—it's a swamp.
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  That's what it is. We know that's what it actually is.
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  Meaning, here's what was said, here's what was done, literally sticking my head
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  in a lion's mouth for myself and you and everybody else, nailing it like Luke
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  Skywalker blowing up the Death Star, baby.
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  It'd be like if I was playing darts, and I threw six darts right in the bullseye.
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  Tiger Woods, 18 holes, hole in one.
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  People are like, we don't care about record of being right. We don't care about
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  proof. We care about, you're bad covering up for Israel.
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  We're good. And so we say this congressman was at the assassination meeting,
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  even though he's on C-SPAN at 11 a.m.
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  And voting and speaking, which is 8 a.m. at the assassination command base.
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  People say, why are you? Yeah, it's absolutely wild. that
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  and he and Alex Jones he's getting he's
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  a person that can actually get in there and get in get his hands dirty get get
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  in the nitty-gritty and find out what's going on there's no conspiracy that
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  he has not thought of and he's able to analyze these things so is if he's going
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  to start picking apart Candace's little tales and things that she's saying it's not going to change,
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  it's not going to change what Candace is doing and I think what he what he wants
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  really is he wants to sit down with Candace.
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  He wants to talk this out, flesh it out, you know, and what just drove me up
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  the wall was the whole meeting that Candace had with Turning Point USA with Erica Kirk.
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  It was closed doors, four and a half hours, you know, and they,
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  they talked through everything.
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  What actually did you talk about?
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  Did you get the call Candace? Are you, are you in on something that you're,
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  I don't think there is no end.
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  I think Turning Point USA had nothing to do with it. Nothing to do with it.
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  And, but it just, it, that's what I'm talking about.
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  It just makes it seem like that this simulation is just feeding us something
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  that there's always some drama, but there's never any, they're there.
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  What, what did, what called it? What, what happened? That, that just,
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  that is, makes it the most fake thing in the world that we, there was a such
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  buildup that she had the opportunity.
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  They could have done it live in front of everyone. Then she backed out.
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  Then she ends up going in just to, for, I guess, Erica and them,
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  they flew up to Tennessee And that's where they had it at a hotel in secret
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  closed doors meetings. But nobody knows.
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  We're none the wiser. We have nothing. We don't actually know what happens.
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  We only hear hearsay of what you said there, you said there.
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  And when people are in person, they're going to be a lot different than when
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  they're in person in front of the camera, when the public view is watching them.
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  Because then they're not going to be, they're going to pull some niceties and
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  some things that just let's be chummy. because at the end of the day,
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  these people are chummy. They're chummy. They're friends.
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  They're cool with being friends, you know, because really the things that we
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  get fixated on is just, it's just for views.
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  It's just for people to see things. It's just for drama.
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  But really there, there's a core mentality of what we want, you know, together.
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  We want, you know, we want the best for our nation. We want good things to happen for our people.
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  We want conservative values to be upheld.
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  And I think what keeps us together is just the social values that we have.
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  We all, for the most part, most of us claim the name of Christ.
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  We're standing under that banner. And this little infighting that we have,
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  it's a lot more just for public consumption.
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  It's what they had. And them doing it in closed doors,
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  they probably just had some fun, had some good times,
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  didn't really talk anything out they didn't they didn't really get any any further
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  along they just played like hey i've been seeing the videos i've been putting
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  up that was good wasn't it man you went a little bit too far there.
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  Really? Okay. Well, let's just have, let's just have some coffee.
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  Let's just drink it up, you know, and have, have a good time.
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  That's what, that's all it is, you know? And that, that is the black pill right
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  there that they decided to do it without us seeing what's going on.
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  These, they need to meet up. We need to, they need to do it in front of people
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  and not, and not do it just for a show, but really what's going on.
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  I'm tired of not knowing what's going on. And I'm tired of feeling out of the loop.
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  And I know you are as well. And I know the people there as well.
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  The people that are doing the same thing that I'm doing, they do as well.
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  They don't really know what's going on.
• 20:42
  Nobody knows what's going on. We're just being fed bullshit every day and we're
• 20:45
  just used to it. All right.
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  I don't know where you stand. As you can see, I'm a little passionate about
• 20:50
  it, but we'll leave it at that.
• 20:51
  Smash that like button. Follow me on Instagram at Brandon Fogle.
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  The show is Brandon Fogle Evolution. I don't want to tell you to lie and say,
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  just give me a good start.
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  Your honest heart, what you think. I'm doing the best I can,
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  do my best, trying to improve every day.
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  And I care about what you all think. So drop a comment, let me know.
• 21:14
  And I did see somebody's comment on Apple Podcasts. I thought that was really
• 21:18
  kind, really nice of what they did, what they said.
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  So thank you all for anyone that does just lean into this and give me any shares
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  or anything like that that you have. All right. Have a great day. I'll see y'all later.