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- 0:02Speaker 1: You see something's going to happen.
- 0:06Speaker 2: What what's going to happen? I'll tak what help. Welcome
- 0:25Speaker 2: to the Occult Rejects. In this episode, you got me
- 0:29Speaker 2: and my boy Headless Giant, and uh as I, as
- 0:32Speaker 2: far as I know now, woul assume it's just gonna
- 0:34Speaker 2: be us two the whole time. But I mean, you
- 0:36Speaker 2: never know. But hey, it's a first day of the
- 0:39Speaker 2: new series. We're going to be trying. We're going to
- 0:43Speaker 2: cover seven seven seven by Alista Crowley as best as
- 0:47Speaker 2: we can. Uh you know, from our experiences of using
- 0:50Speaker 2: it or there things that come up in there that
- 0:52Speaker 2: we have experience with you will go on with it,
- 0:55Speaker 2: and some stuff that we don't have experience, we'll obviously
- 0:57Speaker 2: read over it, just so you get an idea of
- 0:58Speaker 2: what's in there. I and Headless were even saying prior
- 1:02Speaker 2: to the show, I do think a lot of people
- 1:05Speaker 2: are actually misunderstood about what's actually inside this book. Not
- 1:09Speaker 2: saying I'm promoting it and saying everybody go out and
- 1:11Speaker 2: get it and start reading it like a Bible. But
- 1:14Speaker 2: you know, I don't think this is probably as many
- 1:15Speaker 2: dicks and demons in here as everybody thinks that.
- 1:18Speaker 1: Right.
- 1:18Speaker 2: Yeah, But before we go on, is there anything you
- 1:22Speaker 2: want to say about this head list? I know, I
- 1:23Speaker 2: know you're a big fan of this book as well,
- 1:25Speaker 2: so well.
- 1:27Speaker 1: This is Alistair Crowley's Kabbala. So if you're wondering about
- 1:31Speaker 1: all of the associations and the worldview that Crowley had,
- 1:35Speaker 1: don't go to the podcast. Go to seven seven seven,
- 1:38Speaker 1: because this is going to give you sort of a
- 1:40Speaker 1: view into his subconscious mind as well as his studies
- 1:43Speaker 1: and all the rest of this stuff. That's that's why
- 1:45Speaker 1: I think it's kind of important because it's shaping a
- 1:48Speaker 1: whole generation of occultists, right. All the occultists of this
- 1:52Speaker 1: generation had his book so that they could have those
- 1:54Speaker 1: associations on hand. This is the ultimate reference guide for
- 1:59Speaker 1: the Crowley and point of view. Yeah, so that's that's
- 2:02Speaker 1: why we're covering it.
- 2:03Speaker 2: And if there's any I guarantee you, if there's any
- 2:05Speaker 2: witches in Chat or wickens in Chat that don't even
- 2:08Speaker 2: like Crowley, some of you out there it might even
- 2:09Speaker 2: be able to contest and say I still use that book.
- 2:12Speaker 2: I have heard that so many times from people in
- 2:14Speaker 2: the witchcraft and the cold community. I don't like Croley
- 2:17Speaker 2: but I still use this seven seven seven. I've known
- 2:19Speaker 2: wicks that have you know, witches that are into you know,
- 2:23Speaker 2: typical ceremonial magic, still use that book. So obviously it's
- 2:28Speaker 2: an impact regardless if you think it's real or not.
- 2:30Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, It is influenced. I have
- 2:34Speaker 2: a huge chunk of ceremonial practices since I don't know,
- 2:38Speaker 2: since this came.
- 2:38Speaker 1: Out, you know, right right early nineteen hundred, so it's
- 2:44Speaker 1: still having influence today. We're still reading it to you guys,
- 2:47Speaker 1: so it's probably gonna shape some of those subconscious associations yourself.
- 2:51Speaker 1: But one of the other things I wanted to cover
- 2:53Speaker 1: is you can follow along too. I put the link
- 2:55Speaker 1: in the chat, but if you can't find it there,
- 2:57Speaker 1: you could also look on Internet archives seven to seven
- 3:00Speaker 1: seven and you'll find it there as well. So it's
- 3:02Speaker 1: it's free if you want to get your hands on it.
- 3:05Speaker 2: Yes, And one thing I do want to mention that
- 3:07Speaker 2: Young Stitch is eight over here said or eighty eight
- 3:09Speaker 2: or eight Young Stitches eight. Uh, this is before Thalma,
- 3:12Speaker 2: so it's pret aonic, So I mean it was before
- 3:14Speaker 2: he became who he became, I guess, So all right,
- 3:19Speaker 2: do you want me to start it off? Oh? Sure, sure,
- 3:23Speaker 2: all right, yeah, we'll pull it up to uh, let
- 3:26Speaker 2: you guys see it here. Let me maybe I can
- 3:28Speaker 2: blow it up a little bit, make it look a
- 3:29Speaker 2: little bit better for you guys. But I do highly
- 3:33Speaker 2: suggest if you can to grab the grab the PDF
- 3:37Speaker 2: for the book and read along with it. All right,
- 3:40Speaker 2: here we go, take these glasses of us. This is
- 3:45Speaker 2: a unique collection of Kabbalistic texts without parallel in the
- 3:49Speaker 2: entire history of this vast mystical literature, all of them
- 3:55Speaker 2: belonging to the very early professional career of Alista Crowley.
- 3:59Speaker 2: That is a is they were written before he had
- 4:02Speaker 2: reached the age of forty years, as every student of
- 4:06Speaker 2: the Croley corpus of writing should know. However, they were
- 4:10Speaker 2: used constantly and continuously by him throughout his lifetime. So
- 4:15Speaker 2: I mean, I would hope if you put this out
- 4:17Speaker 2: he adhered to his own work. But they're even saying
- 4:20Speaker 2: he used it.
- 4:20Speaker 1: Himself absolutely in the obscure footnotes to the Vision and
- 4:27Speaker 1: the Voice Sangreal Foundation, Dallas, nineteen seventy two. That's an
- 4:32Speaker 1: important place there. Yeah, elis in the nineteen sixties, interesting,
- 4:37Speaker 1: which I recently edited. It soon became evident that a
- 4:40Speaker 1: few of those explanatory notes of his would make a
- 4:46Speaker 1: rhyme or reason to the average student unless he were
- 4:49Speaker 1: exceedingly well grounded in the material and methods delineate delineated
- 4:55Speaker 1: in those books. All three need to be studied a
- 4:59Speaker 1: studious over a long period of time before those footnotes
- 5:03Speaker 1: become intelligible to any degree, or until the intrinsic value
- 5:08Speaker 1: of the text themselves is perceived as being of the
- 5:11Speaker 1: purest goal little alchemy for you.
- 5:13Speaker 2: Yeah, one thing I do want to mention that it's
- 5:16Speaker 2: interesting they said the Vision in the Voice, Dallas, nineteen
- 5:19Speaker 2: seventy two. As far as I know, if this is
- 5:21Speaker 2: talking about what they're talking about. The Vision in the
- 5:24Speaker 2: Voice is now located in Austin, Texas in a different library,
- 5:27Speaker 2: But you can go there and see his handwritten notes.
- 5:31Speaker 2: Do you have a fuck ton of pictures in video
- 5:33Speaker 2: of it? And I am thinking about possibly showing it.
- 5:35Speaker 2: But if you have the chance to go down there
- 5:37Speaker 2: and look at that, you will see him literally doing
- 5:40Speaker 2: drumatria fitting words in. He's using that word rose and
- 5:45Speaker 2: he's doing the mads for it. He's not talking about
- 5:48Speaker 2: his girl all the time he is doing something else
- 5:51Speaker 2: when he says their names. Sometimes you can see that.
- 5:54Speaker 2: I will even say, for the Sjw's out there who
- 5:58Speaker 2: coucked for Crowley. This some stuff you might see him
- 6:01Speaker 2: writ in there that might offend you some you know,
- 6:03Speaker 2: offensive names for certain types of people. He may not
- 6:06Speaker 2: be the you know, the great man you thought he was.
- 6:08Speaker 2: He was just like everybody else, you know, all right, yeah, yeah.
- 6:16Speaker 2: The first of these three texts is actually one of
- 6:19Speaker 2: the installments from the Equinox, the fifth containing a biographical
- 6:26Speaker 2: sal sorry containing a biographical serial entitled The Temple of
- 6:31Speaker 2: King Solomon. The serial strove to present a more or
- 6:36Speaker 2: less dynamic picture of the personality of Alista Crowley or
- 6:40Speaker 2: Frader pert Rabo, which is something you called himself, per Rabbo.
- 6:43Speaker 2: He's called himself the Beast and a few other names.
- 6:45Speaker 2: I think to use his order name in the course
- 6:49Speaker 2: of his progress along the mystical and magical path. The
- 6:53Speaker 2: first few installments were written by one of his major
- 6:55Speaker 2: disciples of the first decade of this century, Captain uh
- 7:00Speaker 2: later General J. F. C. Fuller. After a while, these
- 7:05Speaker 2: two men separated as separated as narrated in the Confessions
- 7:10Speaker 2: of Alista Crowley. The result was that Crowley, being left
- 7:14Speaker 2: in the in the lurch as it were, wrote the
- 7:17Speaker 2: fifth installment as a kind of filler, enabling him to
- 7:20Speaker 2: find time to resume the narrative of his attainment, interrupted
- 7:23Speaker 2: by Fuller's departure. That's fine. That reminds me of It's like,
- 7:28Speaker 2: sometimes it sounds shitty. Sometimes I'll do like filler shows
- 7:30Speaker 2: why I'm in between, like trying to do more in depth.
- 7:32Speaker 2: Once it's like, yeah, I kind of get what you
- 7:34Speaker 2: get in at dude. Oh sorry, great.
- 7:37Speaker 1: Also, we left out the part that this is a
- 7:41Speaker 1: ford written by Israel Regardos. Oh yeah, Alchemist Handbook also
- 7:46Speaker 1: has a ford written by Israel Regarded So he's getting
- 7:49Speaker 1: all over back then he's got his hand in everything.
- 7:52Speaker 2: So he might have had his hand in Alista Crowley at.
- 7:56Speaker 1: One at some point might have The filler has nothing
- 8:01Speaker 1: to do in reality with the biographical narrative. It consisted
- 8:05Speaker 1: of a set of cobbalistic and pragmatic notes on number
- 8:09Speaker 1: that Crowley had accumulated over the years, which he now
- 8:13Speaker 1: tied together for his purposes. It consisted of a study
- 8:17Speaker 1: of one phase of the Kabbalistic process, which is held
- 8:20Speaker 1: in rather poor esteem today, mostly so, I believe, because
- 8:24Speaker 1: the majority of the modern writers have not been able
- 8:27Speaker 1: to penetrate its mystery, they cannot cope with it in
- 8:31Speaker 1: any way. They regard it unfortunately on par with common
- 8:36Speaker 1: practice of numerology and fortune telling, thus missing the boat entirely.
- 8:43Speaker 2: Jumatria, as this process is named, is pronounced as je
- 8:48Speaker 2: whatever a mutt rhea. As a method, it reminds me
- 8:52Speaker 2: somewhat of the mystery surrounding the usage of the coan
- 8:56Speaker 2: koa n in the Rinzi sect of Zen r I
- 9:01Speaker 2: n z Ai z Ai sect of Zen. It seems
- 9:06Speaker 2: at first sight first site nothing but perfect nonsense, this
- 9:11Speaker 2: taking liberties with names and letters and numbers. But in
- 9:15Speaker 2: point of fact, just as the coan is a meaningful
- 9:19Speaker 2: but not necessary rational statement made from a mystical level
- 9:22Speaker 2: of consciousness, so also it may be used to induce
- 9:27Speaker 2: a similar type of illumination in the determined student who
- 9:31Speaker 2: uses it. Depending on the spiritual state of the reader,
- 9:35Speaker 2: Jamatria will be perceived either as nonsense of the most
- 9:38Speaker 2: grotesque description, or it will awaken some smoke riom similacrum
- 9:46Speaker 2: of the mystical state originally experienced by its writer. That's interesting.
- 9:54Speaker 1: So he's having these illumination experiences and saying that understanding
- 10:02Speaker 1: the Gematria in a certain frame of mind can induce
- 10:06Speaker 1: the same similar state of consciousness. Very interesting. Let me
- 10:12Speaker 1: see if he studies crowley exposition of the number four
- 10:15Speaker 1: eighteen in this book Jamatria, for example, something of this
- 10:19Speaker 1: high point of view may be perceived. It was not arbitrary,
- 10:24Speaker 1: arbitrarily chosen as an important or significant number for him,
- 10:28Speaker 1: or for that matter, anyone else, And so with many
- 10:31Speaker 1: other numbers. This method does have definite sphere of usefulness
- 10:36Speaker 1: and a vital place in cabalistic exogetical process, but it
- 10:43Speaker 1: does require to be understood.
- 10:47Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't like that word either. Whatever, never for
- 10:52Speaker 2: one moment suspect Crowley of gullibility, ornate, or being naive.
- 11:00Speaker 2: They seem at first sight as if he were. But
- 11:02Speaker 2: read the first few pages of the essay on Jamatria,
- 11:05Speaker 2: where you will notice his satire, his ridicule, his ridicule,
- 11:09Speaker 2: and his humor. This should never be ignored or minimized.
- 11:12Speaker 2: He never had difficulty pulking fun at himself or the
- 11:15Speaker 2: methods he used for different purposes. It saved him from
- 11:18Speaker 2: being gullible in crudelity, the curse of the average occult student.
- 11:24Speaker 2: Some of his conclusions on his numerical manipulations, therefore, are
- 11:28Speaker 2: entitled at the very least to some scrutiny and examination,
- 11:32Speaker 2: and this in turn may lead to respect. For example,
- 11:36Speaker 2: I have always been profoundly impressed by his handling of
- 11:39Speaker 2: the number nine, one three, equinox one, number five, page
- 11:44Speaker 2: one oh seven. It is the jamatria of God, this
- 11:48Speaker 2: name barasheth barashith, a Hebrew word meaning the beginning, the
- 11:53Speaker 2: first word of the Book of Genesis. He starts with
- 11:56Speaker 2: a discussion of the number nine and reduces it by
- 11:59Speaker 2: several brilliant permutations and attributions to one, stating that the
- 12:05Speaker 2: many being the many being but veils of the one,
- 12:09Speaker 2: and the course of argument leads one to knowledge and
- 12:12Speaker 2: worship of each number. In turn, in concluding the lengthy analysis,
- 12:18Speaker 2: he does state explicitly that nine is not equal to
- 12:22Speaker 2: one for the neophyte. These equivalences are dogmatic and only
- 12:27Speaker 2: true by favor of Him in whom all is truth.
- 12:33Speaker 1: Any man who can write thus of a subject which
- 12:36Speaker 1: is taboo because capable of infinite abuse, and which has
- 12:40Speaker 1: earned the contempt of several reasonable students of the mysteries,
- 12:45Speaker 1: is worthy of respect and consideration. Right to the end
- 12:49Speaker 1: of his days, Crowley felt that this Jematria was a
- 12:52Speaker 1: most useful tool, and tested many of his theoretical and
- 12:55Speaker 1: intuitive feelings relative to the Book of Law against the
- 12:59Speaker 1: manipulation and inspiration of Jamatria. I must say that I
- 13:04Speaker 1: am in complete accord with him in this respect, as
- 13:08Speaker 1: testified by my earliest piece of writing, A Garden of Pomegranates,
- 13:13Speaker 1: in which there is a chapter on Jamatria.
- 13:17Speaker 2: Nice. The second of these liber seven seven seven has
- 13:23Speaker 2: been reprinted several times in recent years. All of the
- 13:26Speaker 2: new editions improved on the first one, which is rare
- 13:29Speaker 2: nowadays and most expensive, by the inclusion of many short
- 13:32Speaker 2: essays and commentaries written at various times of Crowley, and
- 13:36Speaker 2: added skillfully by the editor after Croley's demise in nineteen
- 13:39Speaker 2: forty seven. I'll read the next one too. The book
- 13:42Speaker 2: was first started in nineteen oh seven, shortly after his
- 13:45Speaker 2: return from the China expedition. It is humorously referred to
- 13:49Speaker 2: in the second essay and Knox on Pox, where there
- 13:52Speaker 2: are references to the table of correspondences in preparation. In
- 13:58Speaker 2: point of fact, these tables of Correspondences, which comprise Libra
- 14:02Speaker 2: seven to seven in which were not published until nineteen
- 14:04Speaker 2: oh nine, consists of basic information provided originally piecemeal and
- 14:10Speaker 2: the knowledge lectures of the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dome.
- 14:14Speaker 2: Predicated on his own further studies and experiences. They were
- 14:18Speaker 2: enormously expanded by Kroley, so that at first sight they
- 14:21Speaker 2: bear little resemblance to the fragmented tables in the Golden Dome.
- 14:27Speaker 1: There is a wealth of valuable material here just waiting
- 14:31Speaker 1: to be used. Many writers have done so without due acknowledgement.
- 14:35Speaker 1: This book provides a basic system or method of filling
- 14:39Speaker 1: new information on any topic and subject. The filing system
- 14:44Speaker 1: is predicated on a mere thirty two categories, the ten
- 14:48Speaker 1: sever off of the Tree of Life and the twenty
- 14:51Speaker 1: two letters of the Hebrew alphabet. Once this schema is understood,
- 14:56Speaker 1: any new set of data of any kind can be
- 14:59Speaker 1: referenced to it, thus undergoing immense, immediate and spontaneous organization
- 15:07Speaker 1: and synthesis within the psyche. True most of the material
- 15:11Speaker 1: relates to comparative religion and mythology, including precious stones, herbs, plants,
- 15:18Speaker 1: and a multitude of other matters. Because these compromise the
- 15:22Speaker 1: basic notions currently employed, one should not feel limited only
- 15:27Speaker 1: to these topics. At one time I experimented allocating the
- 15:30Speaker 1: elements on the atomic scale to this tree, with some
- 15:34Speaker 1: modicum of success somewhere along the lines. It's so funny
- 15:38Speaker 1: because the entire periodic table is set up with numbers
- 15:43Speaker 1: and weights based off of the entire compilatory, and they're
- 15:47Speaker 1: all named after Greek gods too. Go figure and guess what.
- 15:50Speaker 1: The number of those Greek gods also corresponds with those elements.
- 15:54Speaker 1: So he's being either modest or lying his butt off
- 15:59Speaker 1: any culture right.
- 16:01Speaker 2: One thing I would like to add I have come across,
- 16:03Speaker 2: but it was a long time ago. If there's any listeners,
- 16:06Speaker 2: or if you're yourself, or you know what the shows,
- 16:09Speaker 2: if you know anybody who's really good with the element
- 16:11Speaker 2: table with tying it to ocult stuff, please let us know.
- 16:14Speaker 2: I'd love to get somebody on like that. I've seen
- 16:17Speaker 2: it done, but it was so long ago. I can't
- 16:19Speaker 2: remember the channel that I saw that was doing it.
- 16:22Speaker 1: The occult elements that would be fantastic. Yeah, it showed
- 16:25Speaker 1: me a good one.
- 16:26Speaker 2: And another thing I just want to mention, like you
- 16:28Speaker 2: just said right here, as he's tying it to the
- 16:29Speaker 2: you know, the elements like yo, like this, These people
- 16:34Speaker 2: over and over again do reference to science, and people
- 16:36Speaker 2: just ignore it. These guys are into occult science, you know,
- 16:42Speaker 2: say the toll you right here?
- 16:43Speaker 1: Absolutely. Let me see somewhere along the line in the
- 16:48Speaker 1: course of my mini travels, this set of attributions has
- 16:51Speaker 1: got lost and I never made another attempt to duplicate it.
- 16:55Speaker 1: It is mentioned here though, in the hope that this
- 16:58Speaker 1: enterprising student will realize as the enormous potentialities which lay
- 17:02Speaker 1: ahead when using the Tree of Life in this way.
- 17:05Speaker 1: So what they're talking about is a memory palace, the
- 17:07Speaker 1: same sort of thing that Nick is covering in his
- 17:10Speaker 1: series on Oh guy was burnt at the Stag Georda Bruno. Yeah,
- 17:16Speaker 1: so Geordana Bruno used the same sort of method to
- 17:20Speaker 1: create a memory palace in which people would accuse him
- 17:23Speaker 1: of being a witch because his memory was so damn
- 17:25Speaker 1: good and he had photographic comprehension and uh recall of
- 17:29Speaker 1: everything he ever saw using this methodology.
- 17:32Speaker 2: Yeah, he impressed uh, I forgot to King Henry. One
- 17:34Speaker 2: of them was somebody. He impressed somebody and they gave
- 17:37Speaker 2: him money. They said, like he was almost like encyclopedia,
- 17:40Speaker 2: like fucking kid like memories, crazy shit like that. And
- 17:44Speaker 2: he swore it was from literally from staring at certain
- 17:48Speaker 2: sigils and certain uh, certain Hebrew letters and like just
- 17:51Speaker 2: going around in a fucking wheel. After six months, he
- 17:54Speaker 2: says it should work. Imagine that shit works and people
- 17:58Speaker 2: out there actually know it right, right, people who still
- 18:03Speaker 2: have his original shiit have it.
- 18:05Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right, And that was one of the things
- 18:09Speaker 1: that was hard to find, Like they had to reconstruct
- 18:11Speaker 1: it because they didn't get a hold of it right.
- 18:15Speaker 1: Libra seven seven seven created a new type of literature
- 18:18Speaker 1: when it first appeared. It was the first of its kind,
- 18:20Speaker 1: and Crowley deserves credit for that, even if some of
- 18:24Speaker 1: the material itself is not original. A lot of it
- 18:27Speaker 1: is not original.
- 18:28Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's true. The lb r P and the hextagram,
- 18:32Speaker 2: it's not his. A lot of people again, people by
- 18:36Speaker 2: like how you covering Crowley and you constantly shit on them.
- 18:38Speaker 2: It's just the fact that like too many people give
- 18:40Speaker 2: this guy too much credit. Unfortunately, in different ways. Put
- 18:43Speaker 2: it that way. You know, when they want to ship
- 18:45Speaker 2: on him, they blame him for every fucking sick, every
- 18:47Speaker 2: fucking specific origual out there, every ritual out there. Crawley
- 18:51Speaker 2: did it, Curly did it, Curly did No, we didn't
- 18:53Speaker 2: get over you, so right right, so alcoholic. Yeah, you
- 19:00Speaker 2: end up writing the next one in order to get
- 19:02Speaker 2: some theoretical idea of the Kabbala as a philosophical schema.
- 19:06Speaker 2: There are some modern books outside the Croley Corpus which
- 19:08Speaker 2: could be consulted to considerable advantage. Of course, they're going
- 19:12Speaker 2: to talk about the Unfortune. First of all, there is
- 19:15Speaker 2: the Unfortune's masterpiece, the Mystical Kabbala, which I will suggest
- 19:18Speaker 2: is a good book, which is similarly based on the
- 19:21Speaker 2: Golden Door material. Its value lies in the manner in
- 19:24Speaker 2: which she has considered each item in each detail, with
- 19:27Speaker 2: an exposition which ties them all together intelligibly. I'll do
- 19:32Speaker 2: the next one just parallel this to William Garry's Ladder
- 19:36Speaker 2: of Lights, which is another elucidation of the tree from
- 19:39Speaker 2: a different viewpoint, but equally illuminating. Both of these books aurelimited, however,
- 19:43Speaker 2: merely to a study of the ten Sepharoath the main
- 19:46Speaker 2: categories of the tree. Supplementing these this is another amazing book.
- 19:52Speaker 2: So I'm actually wondering if this is how I came
- 19:55Speaker 2: across the guy's book Supplementing these is Gareth Knight's practical
- 19:59Speaker 2: course and Babbelistic symbolism. Honestly, when anybody ever does ask
- 20:03Speaker 2: me for books on the Cabala, that's the one I
- 20:05Speaker 2: send them as a PDF. So if people are interested
- 20:08Speaker 2: in it, I highly suggest that because it touches on
- 20:10Speaker 2: the paths besides the spheres huge, I think, which extends
- 20:15Speaker 2: the scope.
- 20:15Speaker 1: I still got them all highlighted, which.
- 20:18Speaker 2: Extends the scope of the previous two books. By studying
- 20:21Speaker 2: these three books, good background materials should be provided from
- 20:24Speaker 2: which to learn to appreciate the enormously valuable task performed
- 20:28Speaker 2: by Crole and Libra seven seven several decades ago. The student.
- 20:33Speaker 2: What's funny that they're even suggesting that book. That guy
- 20:36Speaker 2: does shit on Crowley a few times, and they're saying
- 20:37Speaker 2: he's wrong, he doesn't agree with his the way he
- 20:39Speaker 2: looks at it, So that's impressive that they're even suggesting
- 20:41Speaker 2: someone like that. The student can accept as much or
- 20:45Speaker 2: as little of the philosophy described in the above name
- 20:48Speaker 2: books as he wishes. It does not matter, so long
- 20:51Speaker 2: as the basic schema is understood and applied to Libra
- 20:54Speaker 2: seven seven. I foresee but little difficulty in this task.
- 21:02Speaker 1: The third volume included here is cepher sephar Oath, which
- 21:06Speaker 1: means simply the Book of Numbers. It is extrapolated from
- 21:10Speaker 1: Equinox one number eight. Originally, the book was started by
- 21:14Speaker 1: Alan Bennett, one of the Golden Dawn adapts, who took
- 21:18Speaker 1: Crowley under his wing, grounded him in the fundamental process
- 21:21Speaker 1: of magic, kabbala and meditation. He must have been the
- 21:24Speaker 1: most exemplar extraordinary man, for his mark on Crowley proved
- 21:29Speaker 1: to be indelible. And there are a few whom this
- 21:34Speaker 1: may be said. Because he was such a narcissist. Alan
- 21:39Speaker 1: left one or two other pieces of writing which Crowley
- 21:42Speaker 1: reproduced in one or another or several volumes in the Equinoxes.
- 21:46Speaker 1: They are worthy of being referred to as they're referred to.
- 21:51Speaker 1: A Note on Genesis is a brilliant piece of exposition
- 21:54Speaker 1: of Kabbalistic principles, demonstrating the whole gamut of Golden Dawn teachings.
- 22:00Speaker 1: Some of the Kabbalistic methods described here. For this reason
- 22:03Speaker 1: alone it should be studied. The other was written after
- 22:07Speaker 1: he had abandoned the order to become a Buddhist monk,
- 22:11Speaker 1: with the sacramental name of b Q b h Ananda Metia.
- 22:18Speaker 1: It is entitled The Training of the Mind, a Study
- 22:22Speaker 1: of the Buddhist Way of Life. Both essays show a
- 22:25Speaker 1: fine caliber of his mind, demonstrating why Crowley was so
- 22:29Speaker 1: profoundly impressed by him. Anyway, this book is due in
- 22:33Speaker 1: large measure to the efforts which Crowley continued.
- 22:40Speaker 2: Consists of hundreds of Hebrew words selected from several sources
- 22:44Speaker 2: that are listed in the front of the text. Most
- 22:47Speaker 2: of the words are from the Old Testament in a
- 22:48Speaker 2: couple of non Zoric texts translated by McGregor Mathers under
- 22:54Speaker 2: the title of the Kabbala Unveiled. It's a good one too,
- 22:59Speaker 2: from the latinition of Nora von Rosenroth. These words are
- 23:03Speaker 2: arranged according to their numerical value by Bennett. The process
- 23:07Speaker 2: and additional words were continued by Crowley after he had
- 23:10Speaker 2: inherited the book from his mentor. There are some strange
- 23:14Speaker 2: dematriary combinations to be found there, but it is traditionally
- 23:17Speaker 2: assumed that if two words have the same number of value,
- 23:20Speaker 2: a connection of some kind may be said to exist
- 23:23Speaker 2: between them. At first sight. In some instances, no such
- 23:28Speaker 2: relationship may be perceived, But if the student persists in
- 23:31Speaker 2: his study and meditation, he may come to realize something
- 23:35Speaker 2: of the profoundities of these subtle connections and associations that
- 23:39Speaker 2: are not immediately perceived. I have taken the liberty of
- 23:46Speaker 2: deleting a table of factor, which is which in reality
- 23:50Speaker 2: has nothing whatsoever to do with in my opinion, is
- 23:55Speaker 2: one of the occasional examples of Crowley's in exhibition them.
- 24:00Speaker 2: Sometimes he just had to demonstrate his erudition much much much.
- 24:07Speaker 2: The same is true of many numbers in the last
- 24:09Speaker 2: few pages of the text, save for a few with
- 24:13Speaker 2: their corresponding Hebrew words that could be condensed and work
- 24:16Speaker 2: closer together, these pages are omitted because there are no
- 24:19Speaker 2: corresponding Hebrew word. There was no There are no corresponding
- 24:23Speaker 2: Hebrew words listed for the time being. They are just
- 24:26Speaker 2: a waste of space in paper.
- 24:32Speaker 1: That the serious student, what's that?
- 24:34Speaker 2: I said? They should have They still should have left
- 24:37Speaker 2: it in there. I would have let you know, it's
- 24:39Speaker 2: probably actually like him figuring it out like I was
- 24:41Speaker 2: saying about the vision and the voice, you know what
- 24:42Speaker 2: I'm saying. Or it's like.
- 24:47Speaker 1: I got a put note on mine that says this
- 24:49Speaker 1: table is included in the by the publisher in the
- 24:52Speaker 1: third edition in nineteen seventy five. So they actually did
- 24:55Speaker 1: leave it out.
- 24:55Speaker 2: Okay, nice, Sorry, let me see.
- 25:00Speaker 1: While it is true that the serious student might study
- 25:03Speaker 1: other cabalistic texts and in the future discover new Hebrew
- 25:06Speaker 1: words having a numero numerical value that corresponds to those
- 25:11Speaker 1: that I have now just I have just now deleted, nevertheless,
- 25:16Speaker 1: he should make his own additions to suffer Sepharoth in
- 25:19Speaker 1: certain new strings of numbers, to make a place for
- 25:22Speaker 1: his newly found words. And that is it should be,
- 25:27Speaker 1: and that is as it should be. There should be
- 25:30Speaker 1: nothing fixed or rigid about any of these three books.
- 25:33Speaker 1: They could be supplemented and expanded by the explorations of
- 25:36Speaker 1: each student, depending on his own judgment and ingenuity. But
- 25:41Speaker 1: he must not fall into the pitfall of some modern writers, who,
- 25:45Speaker 1: having no sympathy or understanding of the process, decry it
- 25:50Speaker 1: and declare it of little value. In the cabalistic scheme,
- 25:53Speaker 1: of things. I'm also I am also omitting Crowley's preface
- 25:58Speaker 1: to the book. It is an that's the malicious piece
- 26:01Speaker 1: of writing, and it does not do justice to the
- 26:04Speaker 1: system with which he is dealing. Every so often Crowley
- 26:08Speaker 1: falls from one of the heights which he has seen
- 26:11Speaker 1: and swallows someone else's folly, someone whom he had the
- 26:15Speaker 1: occasion to admire. In this case, Sir Richard Burton not
- 26:18Speaker 1: always a wholly reliable authority outside the Arabian nights.
- 26:24Speaker 2: The essay on Jamatria and Cephas Sepharoth should be studied together.
- 26:29Speaker 2: Some of the profundities of this first of the first
- 26:32Speaker 2: will never be perceived until one has meditated long and
- 26:36Speaker 2: often on some of the words analyzed in that essay.
- 26:39Speaker 2: I must confess that every now and again, during the
- 26:42Speaker 2: course of my life, I have experienced a thorough going
- 26:46Speaker 2: revulsion to Crowley as a person, resulting in the total
- 26:50Speaker 2: rejection and neglect of what he has written. Days, weeks,
- 26:53Speaker 2: once or years may elapse. Then accidentally I stumble across
- 26:57Speaker 2: something he wrote, such as Jamatria, becomes so engrossed in
- 27:01Speaker 2: a navid of his ingenuity and inspiration that my revulsion
- 27:06Speaker 2: becomes almost immediately transcended. This is probably more true of
- 27:11Speaker 2: Jamachia than either of the two. Here included. The student
- 27:17Speaker 2: who has missed the excitement and inner elevation experience by Jamatia,
- 27:21Speaker 2: whether of his own making or merely reading Crowley, has
- 27:24Speaker 2: missed a very great deal. Do you want me to
- 27:29Speaker 2: keep going?
- 27:29Speaker 1: One scholar recently, oh, I can hit it. One scholar
- 27:33Speaker 1: recently suggested to me that a letter that Crowley's knowledge
- 27:37Speaker 1: of Hebrew was most limited. He made a very impressive
- 27:41Speaker 1: showing only in some ways I'm inclined to agree. But
- 27:45Speaker 1: on the other hand, what little he did know he
- 27:48Speaker 1: has used extremely effectively and creatively. Anyways, he was not
- 27:53Speaker 1: a dull bluffer like Arthur Edward Waite, who pretended all
- 27:58Speaker 1: to all sorts of linguistic and scholastic skills he in
- 28:03Speaker 1: fact never had, take for example his sorry about that.
- 28:11Speaker 1: Take for example his book The Secret Doctrine in Israel,
- 28:15Speaker 1: which is a lengthy analysis of the Zohar. That book
- 28:19Speaker 1: was not written until after a French translation of the
- 28:22Speaker 1: Zohar had been made, and of course long been before
- 28:26Speaker 1: the English one had appeared. The footnotes bear ample testimony
- 28:30Speaker 1: to this conclusion. Yet he pretended years prior to that
- 28:34Speaker 1: book that his Latin and Hebrew were more than adequate
- 28:38Speaker 1: to the task, although they were not. Even His Latin
- 28:41Speaker 1: translations of many alchemical texts were merely good editing jobs,
- 28:46Speaker 1: the translators having been, amongst others, some elderly Anglican priests
- 28:53Speaker 1: preferring to remain, if not in anonymous, then in obscurity,
- 28:58Speaker 1: who had got mixed up in the Golden Dawn and
- 29:01Speaker 1: the occult art in general. They did the donkey work
- 29:05Speaker 1: of translating donkey, remember the donkey.
- 29:07Speaker 2: Yeah you're just talking about that.
- 29:10Speaker 1: Yeah, Uh, translating difficult material. But wait, got all the
- 29:15Speaker 1: glory and the swollen head. Whatever maybe said of Alistair
- 29:19Speaker 1: Crowley's inflated ego, and I have often said perhaps too
- 29:24Speaker 1: much about this, he never stooped quite that low. Very interesting,
- 29:29Speaker 1: Yeah right, agent gossip.
- 29:32Speaker 2: He's even saying your Croles fucked up and this motherfucker
- 29:34Speaker 2: was worse. All of this makes the book that Kabbala
- 29:39Speaker 2: have asked the Croley a greater interest to the average
- 29:41Speaker 2: good student, whose Hebrew may be no better or no
- 29:44Speaker 2: worse than that of Croley. Uh it may be given,
- 29:49Speaker 2: uh it maybe it may give him heart to pursue
- 29:52Speaker 2: his own personal adenda to those books and become as
- 29:55Speaker 2: good a cobbolist as was Croley. Finally, let me add
- 30:00Speaker 2: that the students should own a good Hebrew English lexicon.
- 30:03Speaker 2: Perhaps one of the best ways of using this is
- 30:05Speaker 2: to browse through it at random, casually as it were,
- 30:09Speaker 2: and then, as his interest and excitement mount, look for
- 30:12Speaker 2: certain words deliberately and methodically. For example, for example, open
- 30:18Speaker 2: the lexicon at random and on that particular page, point
- 30:21Speaker 2: carelessly to the first word noticed. Transfer the word and
- 30:25Speaker 2: its translation to a sheet of paper, and then work
- 30:28Speaker 2: out its jamatia. Then turn to sepher sepharoth to see
- 30:32Speaker 2: if that number and word are represented. If not, add
- 30:36Speaker 2: them using page inserts if necessary. Make special entries of
- 30:41Speaker 2: such words as time proceeds. Certain other words. Certain other
- 30:45Speaker 2: words will evoke special interest and should be treated in
- 30:48Speaker 2: the same manner. Try to follow Crowley's analysis of what
- 30:53Speaker 2: was that name? Bearshith again bearschith you said in the
- 30:57Speaker 2: essay jamachia as a model for the management of these words,
- 31:00Speaker 2: and as the basis for meditation to lead to the
- 31:03Speaker 2: highest That's interesting that he you are muted the headless.
- 31:09Speaker 2: It's interesting that he is a he's mentioning that I,
- 31:13Speaker 2: for all I know, I either don't remember. But the
- 31:16Speaker 2: way they're explaining I was, like, you said, what I
- 31:18Speaker 2: was trying to do with my jomatry, you know how
- 31:19Speaker 2: I have that like jamatia thing up on the site
- 31:21Speaker 2: and I didn't want to put it into a book.
- 31:22Speaker 2: It was actually kind of like you're being able to
- 31:25Speaker 2: take the numerical value and run it to that book
- 31:27Speaker 2: to see what it matches. That was kind of the
- 31:29Speaker 2: way I had it. So it's interesting to know. I
- 31:31Speaker 2: guess you could do that with one of.
- 31:32Speaker 1: His right, But they're they're going for a type of
- 31:36Speaker 1: libromancy here. So you're just opening the lexicon at random
- 31:39Speaker 1: and then working through it like it's an exercise. But
- 31:42Speaker 1: in the process you're going to get a lot of
- 31:44Speaker 1: meaning that you can see through. But also we've got
- 31:47Speaker 1: the Jamatria calculator now, which is like ten times easier
- 31:50Speaker 1: than what they're suggesting in this book.
- 31:52Speaker 2: Yeah, you imagine that back in the day you had
- 31:54Speaker 2: to write everything down and figure it out.
- 31:58Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. Here are a couple of examples. I opened
- 32:02Speaker 1: the lexicon at random too, and selected two words a
- 32:05Speaker 1: variety of cabalistic methods may be used to elaborate on them.
- 32:10Speaker 1: Practice will produce the skill and insight. The first word
- 32:13Speaker 1: selected and was one meaning empty. In Hebrew it is
- 32:18Speaker 1: spelled and you and non iron valv rash. This thus,
- 32:24Speaker 1: it's chamatria is fifty, seventy six and two hundred, totaling
- 32:30Speaker 1: three hundred and twenty six. This is a number that
- 32:33Speaker 1: is listed in the Sepher Sephar, and surprisingly is that
- 32:37Speaker 1: of Yeheshua Yeshua Redeemer. The word for vision also comes
- 32:45Speaker 1: within the purview of this number. Our lexicon word empty
- 32:50Speaker 1: may seem a far cry from any of those other
- 32:53Speaker 1: words just mentioned, but see what little meditation can do.
- 32:59Speaker 1: Having followed the similar procedure used by alis Chacrole relative
- 33:05Speaker 1: to Burasha. Yes, a lot of Gnostic Christians believe Christ
- 33:10Speaker 1: is emptiness because of that word. Another word selected at
- 33:14Speaker 1: random defit de fact or what In Hebrew, this is
- 33:21Speaker 1: spelled Czech semach resh vav final nun It's chamatria comes two,
- 33:28Speaker 1: three twenty four, counting the nun as fifty. This too
- 33:32Speaker 1: is another number already in Cephra Sephar Oath, but it
- 33:35Speaker 1: is worth comparing with the words already given there redness, darkness, roaring,
- 33:41Speaker 1: et cetera. All three of these Kabbalistic texts must be
- 33:46Speaker 1: consulted to make sense of these apparently unrelated words and numbers.
- 33:50Speaker 1: The process thus becomes a test for one's cabalistic knowledge
- 33:54Speaker 1: and skill. But more importantly, the process becomes a stimulus
- 33:59Speaker 1: for the surrender of the mind to the mystical experience
- 34:03Speaker 1: which the one is seen to be all and vice versa.
- 34:07Speaker 1: Back to the experiencing this altered frame of consciousness.
- 34:12Speaker 2: I'll just I just want to have the pleasure to
- 34:15Speaker 2: just finish it off.
- 34:17Speaker 1: All right. There are simply no limits to be set
- 34:20Speaker 1: to the applications of these numerical processes. It will take
- 34:24Speaker 1: only a little patience and experience for the sincere and
- 34:28Speaker 1: ingenious student to be to become aware of the possibilities
- 34:32Speaker 1: inherent in the Jamatria, and he will conclude by developing
- 34:36Speaker 1: a fine appreciation for the value, individually and collectively of
- 34:41Speaker 1: these three books assembled for the first time as the
- 34:45Speaker 1: Kabbala of Alistair Crawley that is written by Israel Regardi.
- 34:49Speaker 1: You know, we should combine this with some of the
- 34:53Speaker 1: great Jamatria people that we've had on the show throughout
- 34:55Speaker 1: the years. I think they would love this.
- 34:57Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know, and you know what, unfortunately is
- 35:03Speaker 2: because of the fear of the man, they would never
- 35:05Speaker 2: actually probably read any of his ship. No, you know
- 35:08Speaker 2: what I'm saying, like, well, I'm gonna keep it real.
- 35:11Speaker 2: There's some people that we have, that we've had on
- 35:12Speaker 2: the show that do Jamatia, that used fucking Aliston Crowley
- 35:14Speaker 2: every other week as a fucking bad guy and someone
- 35:16Speaker 2: to point at and always his fucking ritual and his
- 35:19Speaker 2: fucking Jamatria. They would never look at his ship. Too
- 35:22Speaker 2: busy shitting on him. Yeah, keep it real. I mean,
- 35:26Speaker 2: just keep it real.
- 35:28Speaker 1: As they're using yet it interesting.
- 35:35Speaker 2: That is funny, right, Arthur.
- 35:38Speaker 1: Edward Waite, Arthur Edward Wait, just like what Israel just
- 35:43Speaker 1: said about Arthur Edward Waite.
- 35:44Speaker 2: Do you uh do you want to wait till next
- 35:46Speaker 2: week to actually start to Jamatria and just stop here?
- 35:48Speaker 2: It's up to you. I don't know if you want
- 35:49Speaker 2: to continue or just Yeah.
- 35:51Speaker 1: I think this is a pretty good introduction. I think
- 35:54Speaker 1: a lot more people are are interested in this. So
- 35:56Speaker 1: let's leave him once and more. We'll come back next
- 35:58Speaker 1: week and I'm sure to get into it a lot more,
- 36:02Speaker 1: but I think this is a good length.
- 36:03Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, and I do think again like
- 36:08Speaker 2: a reason, Like I even said to Headless, we're both
- 36:11Speaker 2: you know, we both agreed that doing the introduction and
- 36:15Speaker 2: obviously the Jamachi I mean, it's the book, but it's
- 36:17Speaker 2: uh again, you know a lot of people not Jamachia.
- 36:21Speaker 2: I mean, maybe it's just because I'm a fan of it,
- 36:23Speaker 2: but I actually do think there is something into it.
- 36:26Speaker 2: I mean, I'll even put it this way. If you
- 36:28Speaker 2: don't want to believe it doesn't really mean anything, I
- 36:30Speaker 2: guarantee you that the people who do believe it means
- 36:32Speaker 2: something do cipher their shit at times. So regardless if
- 36:36Speaker 2: it means anything magical, you're not gonna understand their stuff
- 36:38Speaker 2: because you're not deciphering it. Yeah I ain't either because
- 36:41Speaker 2: I ain't figuring out to cipher either, But there's stuff
- 36:44Speaker 2: where I guarantee you it's ciphered. Sow knowing jomatry would
- 36:48Speaker 2: help with that.
- 36:49Speaker 1: And a lot of people like we're just starting to
- 36:52Speaker 1: get into the the not socratic, but the neoplatinist view
- 36:57Speaker 1: of these chains, right, the neo plating, this view of
- 37:00Speaker 1: these chains that are all connected to the one, coming
- 37:04Speaker 1: down to the many through all these associations and stuff.
- 37:07Speaker 1: That's where Kamala gets its power. It's like unseen chains
- 37:10Speaker 1: linking these ideas and these thoughts together through altered states
- 37:14Speaker 1: of consciousness. So what a lot of people are getting
- 37:17Speaker 1: out of this is going to be personal to them, right,
- 37:20Speaker 1: But it is an interesting painting that they're using numbers
- 37:25Speaker 1: and words, right, So it is an individual expression. But
- 37:29Speaker 1: at the same time, there's a deeper meaning and a
- 37:32Speaker 1: deeper connectedness you can get.
- 37:33Speaker 2: Out of it.
- 37:34Speaker 1: If you think about it more like an art than
- 37:36Speaker 1: a science. You can kind of see what I'm thinking.
- 37:38Speaker 2: Yes, And I've even mentioned on the show before. If
- 37:41Speaker 2: you go back to I think we did a three
- 37:42Speaker 2: parts Marchie series guys almost two years ago, there was
- 37:47Speaker 2: a point where I was reading and it was stuff
- 37:48Speaker 2: that you know, I got online. It wasn't making it up.
- 37:51Speaker 2: It's been known that in the past to translate some
- 37:57Speaker 2: different different languages from one to the other. I don't
- 38:00Speaker 2: how it was done. They used jamatru. I mean they
- 38:03Speaker 2: said that. I mean, fuck, I don't know how the
- 38:04Speaker 2: fuck to do that either, but obviously they were and
- 38:07Speaker 2: I think honestly if I remember correctly, that's even how
- 38:11Speaker 2: they started even getting some of the Islamic shit figured out,
- 38:16Speaker 2: because that shit was on im popping for alchemy and
- 38:18Speaker 2: they were trying to figure out what the fuck they
- 38:19Speaker 2: were saying in their text.
- 38:22Speaker 1: Every alphabet has the same numerical cipher, so you've got
- 38:28Speaker 1: the AB's and c's all front loaded, and all these
- 38:30Speaker 1: different alphabets Latin, Greek, Hebrew, freaking you know, all of
- 38:36Speaker 1: these alphabets have the same starting points, and those same
- 38:40Speaker 1: starting points have the same numbers. For instance, of Greek.
- 38:44Speaker 1: Greek didn't have separate symbols for numbers. Their numbers were
- 38:47Speaker 1: their letters with an extra symbol on top. So that's
- 38:51Speaker 1: that's what you're seeing when it comes to the number
- 38:54Speaker 1: and letter combination. That was called isopsophy before they were
- 38:58Speaker 1: doing it all. And here the problem with isoprophy is
- 39:02Speaker 1: that people don't want to go through the work of
- 39:05Speaker 1: learning Greek because there's a lot to it. There's a
- 39:09Speaker 1: fuck ton to it, actually, and then you got the
- 39:11Speaker 1: different dialects, so it makes more sense to have it
- 39:14Speaker 1: in Hebrew. I just like the Greek better, you know,
- 39:18Speaker 1: I can pronounce it better. I've looked into it more,
- 39:20Speaker 1: but you know it's a preference.
- 39:23Speaker 2: Yes. One thing I do want to mention, I don't
- 39:26Speaker 2: know if it would be an issue. I've had the
- 39:29Speaker 2: issue before. It was a little bit differently. I was
- 39:31Speaker 2: reading the Sacred Secret Rituals of the Oto. I could
- 39:33Speaker 2: understand getting slapped with a copyright infringement on that. Believe
- 39:38Speaker 2: it or not, the OTO actually did hit me with
- 39:39Speaker 2: the DMCA.
- 39:43Speaker 1: This.
- 39:43Speaker 2: I don't know if if it happens with this and
- 39:45Speaker 2: it gets taken down on YouTube, I will continue to
- 39:47Speaker 2: do it or at least on rumble bit, shoot and audio.
- 39:51Speaker 2: I won't let that stop me. So you know, I'm
- 39:54Speaker 2: just saying if it happens to be a problem, because
- 39:56Speaker 2: I don't know what happened when my Facebook came down already,
- 39:58Speaker 2: I doubt it's due to copyright and fringement, but you
- 40:00Speaker 2: know who knows. Yeah, I'm just letting people know. If
- 40:04Speaker 2: it's an issue, I'm going to keep going with it,
- 40:06Speaker 2: just not on YouTube.
- 40:08Speaker 1: Right well, it is on Internet archives, so I think
- 40:11Speaker 1: see the trademark or copyright has expired.
- 40:14Speaker 2: So well, yeah, one would think, but no, no, no,
- 40:17Speaker 2: I have to have to worry about can Kitty hit
- 40:19Speaker 2: me with another DMC. It was crazy is I personally
- 40:24Speaker 2: knew the fucking person who did that to me, So
- 40:27Speaker 2: it was the girl was in my lodge. She was
- 40:28Speaker 2: a lawyer. She was a lawyer for the OTO. I
- 40:30Speaker 2: know exactly who slapped me with that DMCA. So I
- 40:36Speaker 2: tried contacting them so I can go over the vision
- 40:38Speaker 2: of the voice. I didn't get a fucking answer. I
- 40:40Speaker 2: was like, I didn't think so, because I know if
- 40:42Speaker 2: I do, if I cover that vision in the voice,
- 40:44Speaker 2: they could hit me with the copyright. Then they told
- 40:48Speaker 2: the person who went and filmed it was already told
- 40:50Speaker 2: you can't show that online unless you ask for permission.
- 40:52Speaker 2: And when she asked for the information to ask for permission,
- 40:55Speaker 2: it was the same fucking lady that hit me with
- 40:57Speaker 2: the DMCA copyright. I was like, Fuck, this ain't gonna
- 41:01Speaker 2: work all right, but uh yeah, I'm good to be interesting.
- 41:08Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, I'm just letting people know. If it
- 41:10Speaker 2: becomes an issue with that stuff, I will try to
- 41:12Speaker 2: keep it going as long as I can. And you know, honestly,
- 41:16Speaker 2: for real, for real people that are really into this stuff,
- 41:18Speaker 2: share it, Please share it out. If you're in any
- 41:20Speaker 2: occult discords, share it because I will be I'll be
- 41:23Speaker 2: totally honest with you. I've lost some mods and I
- 41:25Speaker 2: have lost some listeners from starting to cover more of
- 41:27Speaker 2: the occults. So uh maybe it would help if I
- 41:29Speaker 2: actually got some more of a cultist to listen to
- 41:31Speaker 2: my show instead of scared conspiracy theorists. So uh yeah,
- 41:34Speaker 2: hook a brother up and send some links out there
- 41:36Speaker 2: if you can.
- 41:39Speaker 1: Absolutely, if you're in any groups on Facebook that have
- 41:42Speaker 1: lots and lots of people, there are a bunch of
- 41:43Speaker 1: occult groups on Facebook, share it in those groups. That's
- 41:46Speaker 1: what I've been doing so exactly. Look at those Reddit
- 41:50Speaker 1: as well. We're not on Reddit and we're mostly not
- 41:53Speaker 1: on Facebook, but redd it's a great place to share it.
- 41:55Speaker 2: No, we there's somebody did make a credit for us,
- 41:58Speaker 2: actually really believe it or not, or if you search
- 42:02Speaker 2: for us, our name does pop on there a few times,
- 42:04Speaker 2: even even the whole uh whatever that the problem I
- 42:07Speaker 2: had with you know, Tinfoil had that even comes up
- 42:10Speaker 2: on Ready to Check. Yeah yeah, so uh yeah, if
- 42:15Speaker 2: there's a readdit out there and somebody happens to see it,
- 42:17Speaker 2: I'll throw us at comments or add something or whatever.
- 42:19Speaker 2: But I don't keep an eye on it. A fan
- 42:21Speaker 2: made it for us. I can't even get into it,
- 42:24Speaker 2: but yeah, share this out and uh yeah, help us
- 42:28Speaker 2: a hook a brother up with some new listeners and ship.
- 42:31Speaker 2: So all right, you're good Headless.
- 42:35Speaker 1: I'm good. This has been a great episode. Guys. You
- 42:37Speaker 1: can catch me on Thursday where me and nick A
- 42:40Speaker 1: coming back. Send me your emails at Headless Giant Podcast
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- 42:48Speaker 2: You know you want to.
- 42:50Speaker 1: Everybody says they want to do it, but you want
- 42:51Speaker 1: to do it because you want to get some stickers.
- 42:54Speaker 1: I know you do.
- 42:55Speaker 2: Yes, I got a cult stickers. Yeah, I gotta eat
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- 43:00Speaker 2: magical with the Magician the Infinity side number eight and
- 43:03Speaker 2: it is an artistic depiction of the inside of your
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- 43:10Speaker 2: around and tag with it. So uh, definitely definitely check
- 43:15Speaker 2: out Hellis's show on Thursday and check out his Alchemy
- 43:19Speaker 2: Mondays with euros up as well. At some point you
- 43:22Speaker 2: might be able to catch one of them blowing themselves
- 43:23Speaker 2: up it might be worth it. So and you know it,
- 43:28Speaker 2: Headless will still come back the next week trying to
- 43:30Speaker 2: do it again. He'll still come back the next week
- 43:32Speaker 2: trying to do it again.
- 43:34Speaker 1: It's all part of it is.
- 43:36Speaker 2: I got to push those buttons. See what happens to yeah.
- 43:39Speaker 1: All of them by pushing the whole button elevator.
- 43:44Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought that was great. Guys, that was great
- 43:46Speaker 2: when you said that. But yeah, that's the end of
- 43:49Speaker 2: another Recult Rejects and again every Tuesday, hopefully around this time.
- 43:52Speaker 2: If anything maybe changes with his job, et cetera, we
- 43:54Speaker 2: might move around the time. But I think we're shooting
- 43:56Speaker 2: for this every week and uh yeah, check it out
- 43:58Speaker 2: and until the next one, everybody be well later
- 44:04Speaker 1: Mhm.