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Drama Drama Drama The Amazing New Book From Gerilyn Bass Greenberg · Arroe Collins Like It's Live

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  Speaker 1: good morning, party people. How's everybody doing today?
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  Speaker 2: He is the Ero?
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  Speaker 1: This would be me. Let me check again. Yeah, it's me.
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  Speaker 3: Hi.
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  Speaker 2: Nice to meet you.
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  Speaker 1: Nice meeting you too. And what an incredible book, A
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  Speaker 1: very very up to date style of book. The way
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  Speaker 1: that you break it up between the characters and how
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  Speaker 1: the relationships grow beyond different things that change in personal lives.
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  Speaker 1: I just thought it was very community driven. Did you
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  Speaker 1: feel that when you were writing it?
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  Speaker 2: Wow? Thank you so much.
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  Speaker 3: I'm so glad to hear that. Did I feel that
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  Speaker 3: it was very community driven?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? I kind of did. I'm a very I'm an
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  Speaker 2: average person.
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  Speaker 3: I'm just a stay at home mom, and I felt
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  Speaker 3: like I needed to express just certain things that people
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  Speaker 3: around me were going through. So yeah, community base for sure.
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  Speaker 1: So then when you're watching people around you, does that
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  Speaker 1: make because I call that the silent wolf or a
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  Speaker 1: silent watcher, one who stands back and just observes. And
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  Speaker 1: I learned that in martial arts, that you learn more
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  Speaker 1: on the sidelines. What about you as an author?
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  Speaker 2: That's funny.
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  Speaker 3: I do there are a lot of times when I
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  Speaker 3: just do sit back and watch. And my mother at
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  Speaker 3: one point has said to me, you know, you need
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  Speaker 3: to be a little bit more out there. You're a listener,
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  Speaker 3: not a talker. And I kind of feel like observationally
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  Speaker 3: it makes more sense. You get to see people in
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  Speaker 3: their true form that way. I don't know, I kind
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  Speaker 3: of I agree.
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  Speaker 1: Developing the characters, I mean, we've got Mona, We've got
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  Speaker 1: great We've got everybody inside this book. And the way
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  Speaker 1: that once again, that the way that you break it up.
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  Speaker 1: It's like you give me the opportunity to go knock
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  Speaker 1: on their door and not ask for a cup of sugar,
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  Speaker 1: but just hey, what you been up to then? And
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  Speaker 1: you share it with us and we're all going, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: me too.
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  Speaker 2: So thanks.
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  Speaker 3: I feel like when I wrote this, I wanted it
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  Speaker 3: to be something relatable. So the characters Mona and Grace
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  Speaker 3: and then as who's an.
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  Speaker 2: Older woman, there's nothing way out there.
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  Speaker 3: The situations that happened to them are very ordinary, just
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  Speaker 3: people around towns, things that everyone goes through. Just something
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  Speaker 3: very relatable, and so I felt like there should be
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  Speaker 3: a reason to see what these people are going through
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  Speaker 3: and maybe just everyday people can associate with them from that.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I mean, look at the way that Mona is
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  Speaker 1: freed from her home life in the way of basically
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  Speaker 1: being the you know, like when I went through when
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  Speaker 1: my daughter graduated from UCLA. All of a sudden, it's
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  Speaker 1: like this house is mine now. You mean I don't
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  Speaker 1: have to share with anybody. I mean I do, but
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  Speaker 1: I don't, but it's mine. I mean, there are so
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  Speaker 1: many different changes that we go through, and you're you
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  Speaker 1: are very transparent with that. I mean, this really should
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  Speaker 1: be a TV show on Netflix.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, I'll take it for sure. What a fantasy. Thank you?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, thank you, that's the realism that you placed
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  Speaker 1: in it. And you know, it was Mark Twain that said,
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  Speaker 1: if you can't be yourself, then why are you writing?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, that's the thing about it, And that's what
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  Speaker 1: I like about this is that you give us that
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  Speaker 1: world where I really feel like that we are neighbors.
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  Speaker 2: Oh thanks, that's great. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: So, like Mark Twain, so I know that he has
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  Speaker 3: attributed to a famous quote like write what you know ye,
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  Speaker 3: and so I feel like I tried to do that
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  Speaker 3: a little. Not that the stories are based on my
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  Speaker 3: life for my family or anything like that, but like
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  Speaker 3: I said, just something that would be relatable to people.
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  Speaker 1: Now in your own family, because you did bring that
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  Speaker 1: up that you're you're a stay at home mom. What
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  Speaker 1: are the traditions that you're starting with your generation that
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  Speaker 1: will become I mean you're step one? What will be
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  Speaker 1: step two? Or do you have the continuation throughout your
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  Speaker 1: life of that that everything that happened before you got here?
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  Speaker 2: Hmm interesting. I feel like maybe maybe a combination.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I know that, like family dinners are very important
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  Speaker 3: and that's been throughout the time. You know, that's something
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  Speaker 3: that I can't attribute it for myself, but I think
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  Speaker 3: it's important at the end of the day to connect
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  Speaker 3: with your family and figure out what happened during the day.
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  Speaker 3: But like you said, I mean my kids now are
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  Speaker 3: grown and so I have the house to myself.
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  Speaker 2: I probably just turn my dog in the background.
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  Speaker 3: Like you know, it could be a very lonely existence,
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  Speaker 3: but yet a good existence that they're all often happy
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  Speaker 3: with their own lives.
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  Speaker 2: And I kind of heared off topic.
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  Speaker 1: Well, and the thing is is that you you give
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  Speaker 1: us that opportunity, though, to be able to see life
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  Speaker 1: beyond our four walls, because it is so easy. And
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  Speaker 1: I always blame this the COVID lockdown. It's too easy
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  Speaker 1: to go shut the front door and binge watch. And really,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you give your book says no, no, there's
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  Speaker 1: something that's going on out here. You can look at
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  Speaker 1: it and look at what's happening around you go get
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  Speaker 1: involved with it.
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  Speaker 3: That's really sweet. So I finished actually writing this book
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  Speaker 3: during COVID, So.
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  Speaker 2: That was a long time ago.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, And so it's been six years already since I
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  Speaker 3: finished writing. And someone asked me, you know, is it
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  Speaker 3: pertinent to today? And I kind of feel like, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: it is, because the lessons that were involved in writing
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  Speaker 3: the story are kind of timeless. It's be kind to
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  Speaker 3: others and you don't know what's going on in someone
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  Speaker 3: else's world, and so after all this time, I still
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  Speaker 3: think it's kind of relevant.
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  Speaker 1: Please do not move. There's more with Jerrelyn Bass Greenberg
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  Speaker 1: coming up next. The name of the book Drama Drama Drama.
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  Speaker 1: We are back with author Jerrelyn Bass Greenberg. You must
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  Speaker 1: be somebody who picks up a book and you go
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  Speaker 1: to the index, or you find out things in the
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  Speaker 1: beginning and you decide in that moment, because the way
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  Speaker 1: that you break it down with a fresh start, things
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  Speaker 1: aren't always what they see and be true to yourself
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  Speaker 1: right away. As a reader, I'm going, oh, really, well,
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  Speaker 1: what do you know about this? You know, all of
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  Speaker 1: a sudden, now you've got my inquisitive mind. And I
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  Speaker 1: didn't have to go to a national inquirer to get activated.
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  Speaker 2: Oh that's really sweet.
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  Speaker 3: So, like I said, I'm a stay at home mom
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  Speaker 3: or you know, now my kids are grown.
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  Speaker 2: So I was a stay at home mom and.
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  Speaker 3: I felt like I should write a story based on
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  Speaker 3: you know, three different levels of characters, and drama drama
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  Speaker 3: drama is you know, each one of them has their
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  Speaker 3: own dramas to go to. But like what you said,
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  Speaker 3: the book is broken down like a drama in three
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  Speaker 3: different acts, and so life to me, and like.
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  Speaker 2: I said, I'm just a stay at home mom.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not a writer like you are every day writing
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  Speaker 3: in a journal or I just felt like life is
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  Speaker 3: a drama and you have to get through it the
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  Speaker 3: way that you can and the best that you can.
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  Speaker 2: And like I said, just be kind.
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  Speaker 1: Are you a daily writer in the way of journaling,
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  Speaker 1: because I mean the way that you write here, it's
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  Speaker 1: done in such a personable way, and the fact that
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  Speaker 1: you know that you used drama not once but three times,
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  Speaker 1: I'm going, oh, wow, you know what we're doing with
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  Speaker 1: that writing instrument.
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  Speaker 2: That's very sweet.
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  Speaker 3: No, No, I'm not, like I said, I don't journal
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  Speaker 3: every day.
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  Speaker 2: This was kind of like a I don't know, a
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  Speaker 2: dream for me.
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  Speaker 3: I always, in my past likes to read, and I
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  Speaker 3: always thought at some point I would write a book.
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  Speaker 3: I remember in high school reading you know, a side
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  Speaker 3: readings or whatever, and thinking, oh, this is what my
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  Speaker 3: book is going to be like or after the fact
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  Speaker 3: when I was when I was a young mother, I
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  Speaker 3: would cut things out of the newspaper when that was
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  Speaker 3: still a thing, and just about people who wrote books
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  Speaker 3: or the connections that they had and things like that,
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  Speaker 3: and I just always thought, well, maybe someday I'll write
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  Speaker 3: a book, And then the opportunity when I just had
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  Speaker 3: some time on my hands and decided now's.
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  Speaker 2: The time I would do it.
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  Speaker 3: But other than that, no, I don't daily journal like
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  Speaker 3: you do or anything. I'm not classically trained in writing.
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  Speaker 1: Oh that's the part that I like is that that
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  Speaker 1: people go, well, why don't you go back to school
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  Speaker 1: and learn to write and to do the painting a set?
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  Speaker 1: Because I don't want to. It's because I like making
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  Speaker 1: these huge mistakes that make people go, what the hell, dude,
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  Speaker 1: what's going on with your grammar today? It's called speaking
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  Speaker 1: my street, That's what it is. But let's talk about
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  Speaker 1: Esther in the way that what did you learn through Esther?
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  Speaker 1: Because we're all going up there and maybe that's my
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  Speaker 1: attraction to the book, is that you've got three different
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  Speaker 1: levels of life, and it's like I'm learning from each
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  Speaker 1: one of these.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so Esther's the one that I haven't experienced yet.
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  Speaker 3: So Grace, she's fourteen years old, and I have experienced
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  Speaker 3: being a new girl, and well not even a new girl,
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  Speaker 3: but a girl in high school, and Mona was a
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  Speaker 3: young mother whose child was going, you know, not needing
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  Speaker 3: her as much anymore. And I have experienced that, but esther,
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  Speaker 3: the character is an older woman who's starting assisted living,
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  Speaker 3: and so yeah, I haven't experienced that time yet. So
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  Speaker 3: for me, that was a very interesting character to create.
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  Speaker 3: And I thought back to my grandmother, who was very
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  Speaker 3: in charge. But she would tell me about the lady
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  Speaker 3: down the hall and some of you right, and some
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  Speaker 3: of the things that the lady down the hall would do,
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  Speaker 3: and she would get really upset with like stuff like that.
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  Speaker 3: And I remember thinking, oh my god, here's my grandmother
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  Speaker 3: and she's talking the same way that I, as a.
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  Speaker 2: Young mother, would talk. And it just it's just dawned
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  Speaker 2: on me.
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  Speaker 3: That no matter how old you are, you're still having
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  Speaker 3: the same feelings and same thoughts. I mean, I'm sure
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  Speaker 3: if you close your eyes, you don't feel your age.
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  Speaker 2: You feel like you're a younger person, as do. I know.
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  Speaker 1: I'm fourteen. I am fourteen totally. And that's the person
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  Speaker 1: that I have to sit down with when when because
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  Speaker 1: people will go when you get to retire from radio,
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  Speaker 1: I mean forty six years dude, and I go you
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  Speaker 1: know when I sit down with that fourteen year old
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  Speaker 1: self and say thank you for the dream, but we're done,
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  Speaker 1: and I don't have that courage. And that's why I
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  Speaker 1: think I'm really intrigued by your book is because you
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  Speaker 1: talk about three different levels. So it doesn't matter if
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  Speaker 1: it could be three different people. It's still one life.
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  Speaker 1: We see ourselves in every single one of these characters,
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  Speaker 1: so it's one character to those of us that are reading.
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  Speaker 2: That was the plan. Oh I love that. Thank you,
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  Speaker 2: it's amazing. Wow, thank you.
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  Speaker 1: And how did you continuity? I mean, how did you
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  Speaker 1: deal with that as that as that writer of this book?
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I want to talk about the disciplines because
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  Speaker 1: there are people that are that are listening right now
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  Speaker 1: that have little things that they've written. They've hidden, they've
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  Speaker 1: put it away someplace, they've crumpled it up, through it away,
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  Speaker 1: and it's like, no, share your story.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: So ahead funny that you said that hidden away because
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  Speaker 3: I started writing this book in secret, because, like I said,
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  Speaker 3: I haven't been classically trained. I don't I'm not a writer.
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  Speaker 3: I don't journal every day. I just had it in
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  Speaker 3: my head that maybe I should write a book. So
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  Speaker 3: I kept it secret, and I was having a discussion
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  Speaker 3: with my middle daughter about something totally unrelated, and she
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  Speaker 3: said to me, Wow, that was really powerful.
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  Speaker 2: You should write a book. And I said, well, well,
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  Speaker 2: I kind of already started.
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  Speaker 3: To write a book, and so she was really supportive
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  Speaker 3: after that, and I kind of let my other kids in,
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  Speaker 3: my daughter's.
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  Speaker 2: In and my husband and yeah, and then.
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  Speaker 3: I got what I what I kind of felt were
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  Speaker 3: signs from the universe.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if you've experienced, right, but.
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  Speaker 3: Like like names of characters would come up out of
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  Speaker 3: the blue, or or songs that I had in my story,
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  Speaker 3: and I felt like, yeah, I should be doing this.
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  Speaker 2: I really should.
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  Speaker 3: And then, like I said, I finished writing it during COVID,
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  Speaker 3: which was six years ago at that point, and I
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  Speaker 3: really didn't know what to do with it at that point,
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  Speaker 3: you know, like I knew nothing about publishing and going
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  Speaker 3: into the industry, and so I took a writing class,
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  Speaker 3: and I gave it to a couple of friends who
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  Speaker 3: kind of put it on the shelf and didn't really
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  Speaker 3: do anything with it. So I kind of waited some time,
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  Speaker 3: and then I got picked up by my publisher, She
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  Speaker 3: Writes Press, and they said to me, we won't be
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  Speaker 3: publishing the story for another.
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  Speaker 2: Year and a half if that works in your timeline.
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  Speaker 3: And I thought, I thought, okay, well I'll do it.
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  Speaker 3: Why not because I wrote this book so long ago.
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  Speaker 3: But I got to take a chance on myself and
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  Speaker 3: I'm going to do it.
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  Speaker 1: Did you use it writing instrument in the way of
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  Speaker 1: using a pan? I hate that word pan? But did
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  Speaker 1: you use it writing instrument? Or did you did you
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  Speaker 1: tap it into a computer?
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  Speaker 3: I did tap it into a computer. But I do
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  Speaker 3: have my pun with me at all times. Something about
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  Speaker 3: old school, right we all need to.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, because I'll go into a pond now, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I'll do a pawn shop, I'll do any antique store.
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  Speaker 1: And the first place I go to are the old
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  Speaker 1: writing answerment saying, well, that one doesn't work it. You know,
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  Speaker 1: look at the nib on it. It sucks. And I'll go,
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  Speaker 1: you know what, even better, we're gonna rebuild this monkey,
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  Speaker 1: and we're gonna I'm taking the history from this thing
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  Speaker 1: and it's going into my pages. And then now, my
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  Speaker 1: my crazy thing is I'm burying pans throughout the Carolinas
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  Speaker 1: because I believe that it's the earth that's speaking to
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  Speaker 1: us as the muse. Well, I want to listen to them,
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  Speaker 1: So I'm burying the pans and then I go back
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  Speaker 1: and get them, just to see if the earth talk
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  Speaker 1: of that pan. I'm a freak, and I'm a freak.
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  Speaker 2: No, I love it. I hope that that gives you
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  Speaker 2: some inspiration. That's great.
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  Speaker 1: Well, it leads me to people like yourself, who have you?
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  Speaker 1: Know you you didn't have the time in the world
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  Speaker 1: to put a story together, but you found that time
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  Speaker 1: and you and you put it away. Yes, you gave
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  Speaker 1: it patience and everything. But yet now look at it
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  Speaker 1: and the and here's the cold hard facts. It belongs
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  Speaker 1: to us. Now, it doesn't belong to you. The readers
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  Speaker 1: are going mind, mind, mind mine.
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  Speaker 2: I love that.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you so much, because truly I have great imposture
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  Speaker 3: syndrome and it just makes me feel really good to
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  Speaker 3: think that people out there like it.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you.
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  Speaker 1: So, Now where do you grow from here? Because that's
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  Speaker 1: always the toughest thing. I mean, it's like a black
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  Speaker 1: belt in martial arts. Oh you got your first one,
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  Speaker 1: Well how about number two? Well I know it all, No,
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  Speaker 1: you don't know it all. So them, what are you
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  Speaker 1: going to do? With book number two and as we
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  Speaker 1: grow forward.
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  Speaker 3: So I have a couple of ideas, but really I
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  Speaker 3: haven't really done anything with them yet. I just kind
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  Speaker 3: of want to ride this rave wave and see how
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  Speaker 3: this goes. But yeah, I'm not so sure what my
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  Speaker 3: future holds.
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  Speaker 1: Well, here's the challenge. You talk about music in this,
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  Speaker 1: and I need to ask this because are you a
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  Speaker 1: musician or is this another side of your creativity saying
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  Speaker 1: the next book, see if you can write some music
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  Speaker 1: to go with it and create a soundtrack to it
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  Speaker 1: because we grew up in that generation.
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  Speaker 3: Wow.
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  Speaker 2: So I actually I took piano lessons, so.
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  Speaker 3: That's part of my my want to do list is
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  Speaker 3: to learn how to write songs. So I haven't accomplished
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  Speaker 3: that yet, but maybe in the future I would.
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  Speaker 2: And thank you for that aspiration.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, because it's still it's still a texture of writing,
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  Speaker 1: and it's like and that's what's fun about sitting down
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  Speaker 1: with songwriters is that they can tell an entire book
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  Speaker 1: in three minutes and forty five seconds. And I'm blown
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  Speaker 1: away by that skill.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I am too, I am too.
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  Speaker 1: Where can people go to find out more about you?
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: Because I want them to be a part of your
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: growing period, because you know, I always get jealous of
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: the jks and all that kind of stuff that people got.
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: I read the first book, and I'm going and you're
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: with them now eighty books later. God, I want to
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: That's who I want people to be. I want them
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: be there at the beginning so that we can be
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: with them as we celebrate the big, big, big moments.
• 15:40
  Speaker 3: Oh, I love it. I hope that there are eighty
• 15:42
  Speaker 3: books in me that I'm fantastic. My website people can
• 15:48
  Speaker 3: find me is that Jerlyn that's called g e r
• 15:51
  Speaker 3: I l y n bast Greenberg g r.
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  Speaker 2: E e n b e r g dot com. That
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: is my website.
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  Speaker 3: My socials are Jerlyn dot Bass dot Greenberg or jerlynd
• 16:05
  Speaker 3: Bass Greenberg and I will be doing a book signing
• 16:10
  Speaker 3: in Vernon Hills on October twenty fourth at our Bros.
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  Speaker 2: Bookstore.
• 16:13
  Speaker 3: Wow.
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: Well, if you ever make it to the Carolinas, there's
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: a lot of mom and pop operations here that really
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: do support local writing and writing from people that you
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: know that are just you know, looking for that one opportunity.
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: So if you ever put it on the on the map,
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: just come to Carolina. We'll take good care of you.
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: I would love to thank you excellent.
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: Will you be brilliant today and please come back to
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: this show anytime in the future. The door is always
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: going to be open for you.
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: I love that. Thank you so much. Errow and you'd
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  Speaker 2: be brilliant too,