Latest / Stuff Mom Never Told You / Happy Hour #125: Where There's Smoke (SATC S3 Ep. 1)
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- 0:05Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and Samantha and welcome to Stephane.
- 0:07Speaker 1: Never told You Abduction, I Heart Radio.
- 0:18Speaker 2: And y'all, we're celebrating today because not only are we
- 0:22Speaker 2: here for another amazing happy hour, we're joined again by
- 0:27Speaker 2: super executive producer Maya.
- 0:29Speaker 3: Welcome back, Thank you.
- 0:32Speaker 1: For having me.
- 0:33Speaker 4: Yes, also, y'all, we're actually at the studio.
- 0:36Speaker 5: A little bit of drama, oh no, but we're excited
- 0:40Speaker 5: to be together because we're also coming into season three
- 0:44Speaker 5: of watching Sex and the City.
- 0:47Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, we had a little break. I think it
- 0:52Speaker 1: was December was our last one. It's been a minute.
- 0:54Speaker 4: It's been a long minute. And of course, because it
- 0:58Speaker 4: is the first episode.
- 0:59Speaker 2: Of season three, we have to have an amazing guest. Yes,
- 1:04Speaker 2: I'm here, and Amaya is here because we've been talking
- 1:07Speaker 2: about having her on for a while and she even
- 1:09Speaker 2: brought us because it is technically a happy hour, she
- 1:12Speaker 2: brought us a non alcoholic hazy ipa from Best Day Brewing,
- 1:18Speaker 2: which I'm gonna open on Mike. So if you don't
- 1:20Speaker 2: want to hear this, pop open, you know, skip over. Yeah, okay,
- 1:26Speaker 2: I'm gonna take it my sip here.
- 1:27Speaker 6: That was good.
- 1:28Speaker 1: Yeah, it's tasty.
- 1:32Speaker 4: It's tasty.
- 1:32Speaker 2: It's been minutes as I've had to be here because yeah,
- 1:34Speaker 2: I've been staying away from alcoholics, but this is not
- 1:36Speaker 2: an alcoholic, so I'll be fully awake.
- 1:38Speaker 1: I hope. I hope.
- 1:40Speaker 6: Well, let's not retell what happened after the last thing.
- 1:43Speaker 2: We're not going to talk about it. I was not
- 1:45Speaker 2: prepared though. That's the answer to all of that. And yes,
- 1:49Speaker 2: we are back and we're doing something different. I'm so excited.
- 1:52Speaker 2: We are in the studio watching, actually in studio while
- 1:57Speaker 2: we're recording. I was like, how are we going to
- 1:59Speaker 2: do this? Because I don't understand technology. That's what I've discovered.
- 2:02Speaker 2: It's ready for us, and this is pretty pretty sweet.
- 2:06Speaker 4: And it's all because of super producer Christina.
- 2:08Speaker 2: Of course, it's always making the magic happen for us
- 2:11Speaker 2: and making us sound much better than we actually do.
- 2:16Speaker 2: But as we have said, this is a happy hour,
- 2:19Speaker 2: So if you are partaking of anything.
- 2:21Speaker 4: Please do it responsibly.
- 2:23Speaker 3: One.
- 2:23Speaker 4: Two we are not currently sponsored by any other things
- 2:26Speaker 4: that we're talking about. Of course, things change. Maybe one
- 2:29Speaker 4: day people will see the potential and decide they want
- 2:31Speaker 4: to sponsor us. So that's that's the you know, hope right,
- 2:34Speaker 4: Oh for sure, always.
- 2:36Speaker 6: Here for the dollars.
- 2:38Speaker 1: I need to feed my dogs literally, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,
- 2:41Speaker 1: yeah yeah, I need to feed my dog y'all.
- 2:44Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 2:44Speaker 2: So we are in a season three, so maya tell
- 2:49Speaker 2: us your experience with Sex and the City. I laugh
- 2:52Speaker 2: because you are significantly younger than me and that you
- 2:55Speaker 2: love this, uh just as much as I do. But
- 2:58Speaker 2: it is so outdated, shocked.
- 3:01Speaker 7: I think there's a lot of discourse right now actually
- 3:04Speaker 7: about Sex and the City being on Netflix and gen
- 3:07Speaker 7: Z being exposed to it for the first time. Yeah,
- 3:10Speaker 7: it's very interesting because Sex and the City was on
- 3:13Speaker 7: Bravo in the early two thousands like all the time.
- 3:17Speaker 7: Really before like Housewives was on all the time, it
- 3:20Speaker 7: was Sex and the City all the time. So that's
- 3:23Speaker 7: how I was introduced to Sex and the City. And
- 3:25Speaker 7: so I never watched it in like successive order, but
- 3:28Speaker 7: I pretty much saw all the episodes throughout the years,
- 3:32Speaker 7: and I definitely specifically remember my mom being like Sex
- 3:35Speaker 7: and the City.
- 3:36Speaker 4: What do you know about that? I mean, that is
- 3:40Speaker 4: the question that I have, What do you know about?
- 3:42Speaker 7: My mom is also like a boomer, so like she
- 3:45Speaker 7: was like pre Sex in the City, and like. But
- 3:48Speaker 7: she knew about it obviously because it was so big
- 3:50Speaker 7: on HBO.
- 3:50Speaker 6: But she was like, what are you watching this?
- 3:53Speaker 7: Obviously Bravo didn't have all of the uncuts, you know,
- 3:56Speaker 7: so it was like a little bit tamer than the original,
- 4:00Speaker 7: but it was still, you know, pretty provocative at the
- 4:03Speaker 7: time as well.
- 4:04Speaker 6: Yeah, so I loved it. I mean I fell in
- 4:05Speaker 6: love with the characters. You know.
- 4:08Speaker 7: I feel like I'm a Charlotte Okay, okay, in my heart,
- 4:12Speaker 7: in your heart, I think I'm more of a Charlotte.
- 4:14Speaker 7: I'm like a mix of like a Charlotte in a
- 4:17Speaker 7: carry Yeah, a little bit.
- 4:18Speaker 2: I think I keep forgetting h I try to usually
- 4:22Speaker 2: get our guests to do quick quiz o. Soll you
- 4:25Speaker 2: know what, We're gonna do it as a later I'm
- 4:27Speaker 2: gonna send it to you and then we'll have that
- 4:28Speaker 2: as a result later time.
- 4:29Speaker 1: Okay. Fun.
- 4:30Speaker 2: One of the things I think it's hilarious because I
- 4:32Speaker 2: also was introduced to it originally, even though it wasn't
- 4:36Speaker 2: my time timeline, but I was very conservative, was through TBS.
- 4:40Speaker 4: It came through TVs. Wow, yeah, yes, ma'am.
- 4:46Speaker 2: But you can imagine how edited it was, so like
- 4:49Speaker 2: the thirty minute episode was like fifteen.
- 4:52Speaker 4: With lots and lots of ads.
- 4:54Speaker 1: Do it feel like there was like a lot of plot?
- 4:56Speaker 2: Well, no, because I don't know if it was just
- 4:59Speaker 2: easy to catch on, or maybe they did an amazing
- 5:01Speaker 2: job in the editing, or maybe it's because after that,
- 5:04Speaker 2: after watching it, I would buy my own copy. So yes,
- 5:07Speaker 2: I have every single DVD, even including the first movie.
- 5:10Speaker 2: I had to stop after the first, but he was
- 5:12Speaker 2: pretty good. Yeah, yeah, least it tracked.
- 5:15Speaker 7: Jennifer Hudson's character was that second movie the first first movie?
- 5:19Speaker 2: Yeah, so she it was so bad. She was trying
- 5:23Speaker 2: so hard. This was her like acting debut, so bless
- 5:26Speaker 2: her heart. We still love her character. But yeah, yeah,
- 5:30Speaker 2: so I got that later. So maybe because I have
- 5:33Speaker 2: watched it so much since then, I've forgotten what the
- 5:37Speaker 2: TVs version was and understood it.
- 5:39Speaker 6: I feel like the sex was not that integral.
- 5:42Speaker 4: To the No, really, it was just like like throwaway sea.
- 5:46Speaker 1: Yeah that's true. I guess it's more of a maybe
- 5:50Speaker 1: you don't understand when you're younger. Certainly for me, for
- 5:52Speaker 1: the few episodes I saw, I didn't really get what
- 5:54Speaker 1: was going on, and if I had, so, how was
- 5:59Speaker 1: it on TVs.
- 6:03Speaker 4: I think it's quite funny.
- 6:04Speaker 2: But I will say for this one, as I was
- 6:06Speaker 2: trying to remember where we were, I'm like, okay, season three,
- 6:08Speaker 2: episode one, I can't remember what that episode is.
- 6:11Speaker 4: I'm like, oh, so there are some scenes here.
- 6:13Speaker 2: So the fact that we get to gather this together
- 6:17Speaker 2: because Samantha is Samantha and she makes it delightfully hilarious.
- 6:22Speaker 4: But yeah, just a heads up, y'all. If any of
- 6:26Speaker 4: y'all are watching, like, come to watch it and then
- 6:28Speaker 4: come back, just so you know, don't watch it around
- 6:30Speaker 4: children prepared. Yeah, there's some things.
- 6:33Speaker 2: But yes, with that, we are in season three before
- 6:37Speaker 2: we start Annie, which I did call. I did email
- 6:40Speaker 2: you to remind you, Oh, can you give us a
- 6:43Speaker 2: recap of what has happened up until now.
- 6:46Speaker 1: I'm very glad you let me know because I was
- 6:49Speaker 1: racking my brain trying to remember. So Carrie broke up
- 6:53Speaker 1: with Big and then was like out in the field again,
- 6:57Speaker 1: and then got back together with him, and then and
- 7:00Speaker 1: they had a lot of conversations around like him moving
- 7:03Speaker 1: and she wanted to leave stuff at his place and
- 7:04Speaker 1: he was like no, and then they like had an
- 7:07Speaker 1: I Love you fight and then they broke up again,
- 7:11Speaker 1: and then she started dating other people and then she
- 7:15Speaker 1: finds out he's engaged I think two a younger women.
- 7:19Speaker 1: And then Miranda met Steve and they broke up over
- 7:26Speaker 1: money I think, but then they had sex later after
- 7:31Speaker 1: they broke Oh my goodness. She also got an apartment.
- 7:37Speaker 1: I remember that. Yes, she got an apartment. Charlotte continued
- 7:41Speaker 1: to date like guys that I was like, Wow, you
- 7:43Speaker 1: met him at a funeral. Yeah, And then she met
- 7:48Speaker 1: she fell in with some power lesbians or something. Yeah. Yeah.
- 7:53Speaker 1: And then Samantha did a bunch of stuff. She was
- 7:56Speaker 1: at the like SNN club and then all kinds of guys.
- 8:00Speaker 1: She had kind of a fight with her like assistant
- 8:02Speaker 1: over a Rolodex or something.
- 8:03Speaker 2: Yes, the assistant stole the rolodex that had all the
- 8:05Speaker 2: important contacts.
- 8:06Speaker 1: So yes, and then she got like kicked out of
- 8:08Speaker 1: some society and then some bloody helped her get back.
- 8:14Speaker 1: I knew it was a famous person.
- 8:16Speaker 4: It wasn't at all like you just had to imagine him.
- 8:20Speaker 1: He was there and spirit and speaking of I remember
- 8:22Speaker 1: John bon Jovi showed up.
- 8:23Speaker 4: Yeah yeah.
- 8:24Speaker 1: And then yeah, there's a lot of talk about all
- 8:27Speaker 1: the kinds of things they always talk about. But one
- 8:29Speaker 1: thing that stuck out to me is I remember Miranda
- 8:32Speaker 1: having that whole I'm tired of talking about guys all
- 8:34Speaker 1: the time. Yes, and she had a lazy ovary. Yes, whoa.
- 8:39Speaker 4: Memories.
- 8:40Speaker 2: Good job, good job. Those are all very important things
- 8:42Speaker 2: later down the road. But yeah, so very good.
- 8:49Speaker 4: He did a great job.
- 8:50Speaker 2: So we're coming back with season three, and that's pretty usual.
- 8:53Speaker 2: I usually give Annie the title and get her to
- 8:57Speaker 2: predict what she thinks this episode is about. And we
- 8:59Speaker 2: do have a famous guy start coming in f y I,
- 9:01Speaker 2: but not everybody in my I don't know, Like I say,
- 9:04Speaker 2: he's famous. But then like people are going to go
- 9:05Speaker 2: back and forth because he was up there for like
- 9:07Speaker 2: a like a split second and then he kind of
- 9:09Speaker 2: went away. Oh okay, I know you're welcome. So the
- 9:15Speaker 2: first episode is titled where There's Smoke? So what do
- 9:19Speaker 2: you think this is about?
- 9:20Speaker 1: Oh?
- 9:20Speaker 4: No predictions, please, Where there's.
- 9:23Speaker 1: Smoke there is a fire. See. Christina taught me such
- 9:27Speaker 1: a valuable lesson when she came on, which is it's
- 9:29Speaker 1: like the obvious thing, but I can't think where there's smoke,
- 9:35Speaker 1: there's fire. Huh. Something is wrong. I think something's wrong
- 9:39Speaker 1: in multiple cases, and perhaps in one case an STI wow.
- 9:48Speaker 4: That's not a mean I could see where you get.
- 9:51Speaker 4: I could see I can see where we get that.
- 9:53Speaker 1: It's good. This something. Yeah, I think all of them
- 9:57Speaker 1: are going through a crisis of some sort, and one
- 9:59Speaker 1: of them it might more literal than I'm grasping.
- 10:03Speaker 4: Okay, okay, we're gonna go with that.
- 10:05Speaker 2: And because of the beginning of season three, do you
- 10:08Speaker 2: have any predictions for season three?
- 10:11Speaker 1: I feel like somehow they can care gonna end up
- 10:14Speaker 1: back together. Wait, is this what Aiden shows? I've been
- 10:17Speaker 1: waiting for Aiden?
- 10:21Speaker 6: Noiler.
- 10:22Speaker 4: We all love it. I think we're all team Aiden,
- 10:25Speaker 4: aren't we.
- 10:25Speaker 1: Yeah? Well I don't like Big.
- 10:27Speaker 4: Well yeah, that's big.
- 10:29Speaker 2: He dies, So whatever'll not not anytime soon?
- 10:38Speaker 4: Just okay, anyway, all right, I like the predictions.
- 10:45Speaker 1: I mean it's very simple.
- 10:46Speaker 4: Let's get into it.
- 10:47Speaker 8: Okay, Well, this is good. We're actually crossing water to
- 11:04Speaker 8: meet men.
- 11:05Speaker 9: Reminder, I am not going to Staten Island to meet men.
- 11:08Speaker 9: I am going to judge them.
- 11:11Speaker 4: One of the island.
- 11:13Speaker 6: Have anybody ever been there?
- 11:14Speaker 2: No?
- 11:14Speaker 1: Yes, the fairies free I'm like too proud.
- 11:25Speaker 4: You knew something you're excited.
- 11:27Speaker 1: It's about time I knew something.
- 11:28Speaker 2: Oh, I think this is the beginning where Sarahjusica Parker
- 11:30Speaker 2: gets credited as producer and getting more money because it's
- 11:33Speaker 2: becoming more and more successful. I'm all right, this is
- 11:44Speaker 2: where I laugh about like iconic like male and female gaze.
- 11:51Speaker 7: Yes that's the guest. Maybe it's just the time and
- 11:54Speaker 7: like that was attractive, right, but the firefighters.
- 11:58Speaker 4: Not my appeal that like all of them are thick shoulder.
- 12:04Speaker 2: The cutest guy and she gave him five and a
- 12:06Speaker 2: half five and a half. That's rough all the halfs.
- 12:09Speaker 4: But I think it has something to do with like
- 12:10Speaker 4: or think about the romance covers wave.
- 12:12Speaker 10: Point with like Fabio and such like he would he
- 12:15Speaker 10: would be that level, like even though like yeah, they
- 12:20Speaker 10: were as defined like today, like we've now acknowledged that
- 12:24Speaker 10: a lot of women are all good with the dad bods.
- 12:26Speaker 4: We are all good with the.
- 12:27Speaker 2: Dad bods, but like the six pack is more impressive
- 12:30Speaker 2: with the lean leaner.
- 12:32Speaker 7: Yes, yeah, what's with all those half points?
- 12:40Speaker 4: Six and a half, eight and a half.
- 12:43Speaker 1: What can I say?
- 12:43Speaker 8: Sometimes a girl needs a.
- 12:45Speaker 4: Half, Sometimes a girl needs that.
- 12:48Speaker 6: Means I have no idea what that means?
- 12:50Speaker 2: You know, you don't want to make a full decision.
- 12:52Speaker 2: You can't give him the high so the in between
- 12:55Speaker 2: can't quite decide.
- 12:56Speaker 1: Very cious, that was much less sexual than I was thinking.
- 13:02Speaker 6: That's a very carey answer.
- 13:04Speaker 1: Officially real.
- 13:07Speaker 8: Seventy third Street.
- 13:08Speaker 4: She's giving out her address, Willie Nilly.
- 13:10Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know you, bro, You're not getting my address,
- 13:12Speaker 2: even though that you can google me, you.
- 13:15Speaker 3: Have to work for at least yourself.
- 13:21Speaker 4: How can I get your phone number?
- 13:23Speaker 8: Government?
- 13:23Speaker 6: Purpose is only he already has her address?
- 13:25Speaker 4: I mean, what does he need a number for to
- 13:28Speaker 4: show up?
- 13:28Speaker 5: Man?
- 13:30Speaker 1: That address comes out first?
- 13:32Speaker 9: You know what?
- 13:33Speaker 4: Though?
- 13:33Speaker 2: There it's not quite the can I get your email
- 13:36Speaker 2: or Instagram level, which is the new right?
- 13:38Speaker 6: I hate that. Yeah, no, I don't like.
- 13:41Speaker 4: So your boo didn't pick you up that way? Oh
- 13:43Speaker 4: what's your Instagram's?
- 13:44Speaker 7: Oh my god, this is pre pre Instagram?
- 13:48Speaker 4: Really yeah? Really?
- 13:50Speaker 1: M hmm.
- 13:53Speaker 10: I'm Samana went home with that firefighter to two b Bee.
- 14:00Speaker 3: I'm Charlotte's around here somewhere.
- 14:02Speaker 4: Okay, Sam went home with the with the firefighter.
- 14:05Speaker 3: How many cocktails did she have a couple?
- 14:12Speaker 8: I love this.
- 14:14Speaker 1: I mean, she's having a great time.
- 14:16Speaker 6: She's let loose.
- 14:18Speaker 2: You know when you hear that song and you just
- 14:20Speaker 2: feel it, it's like it's like a theme and anthem
- 14:23Speaker 2: and you just got to get into it and play
- 14:24Speaker 2: it out in your head.
- 14:27Speaker 4: With a SATINYLI He's a strong that white jacket. I
- 14:32Speaker 4: love it, tub Top getting it.
- 14:35Speaker 1: I have to say I understand the appeal of this
- 14:37Speaker 1: show in terms of, like, by the time I was
- 14:38Speaker 1: their age, which is not that old, I wasn't doing
- 14:41Speaker 1: this stuff.
- 14:43Speaker 2: But like it was this lively show of them not
- 14:46Speaker 2: being moms, yeah, girlfriends, and just living life, like having
- 14:52Speaker 2: that moment outside of college.
- 14:53Speaker 6: I feel like most young thirties are now.
- 14:57Speaker 2: Yeah you know, yeah forties for some said we're not going.
- 15:02Speaker 2: But it's more acceptable at their age than it was then.
- 15:07Speaker 1: I think yes.
- 15:12Speaker 9: And uptown on dry Land, Samantha and mister July the.
- 15:17Speaker 4: Miracle again, unrealistic scene.
- 15:21Speaker 2: Look, how do you not get panicked about having live
- 15:24Speaker 2: flames near you?
- 15:26Speaker 1: Who does that?
- 15:28Speaker 6: W was that even like sexy?
- 15:36Speaker 8: Like? What was that?
- 15:37Speaker 1: She was losing it?
- 15:39Speaker 4: At one point You're like, are you okay to stop?
- 15:42Speaker 9: And the guy was just like, would snow white have
- 15:51Speaker 9: slept in that glass? Coffin forever, or would she have
- 15:55Speaker 9: eventually woken up, spit out the apple, gotten a job,
- 15:58Speaker 9: a healthcare package, and a baby from our local neighborhood
- 16:00Speaker 9: sperm bank.
- 16:02Speaker 4: I couldn't help, but wonder not anymore. No, No, it
- 16:11Speaker 4: is reality.
- 16:13Speaker 1: Ye.
- 16:14Speaker 9: Do women just want to be rescued?
- 16:19Speaker 4: Just want to be rescued?
- 16:21Speaker 7: I think people want to be rescued, like everybody wants
- 16:24Speaker 7: to have someone take care of their worst burdens.
- 16:29Speaker 2: I don't know if I want to be rescued as
- 16:31Speaker 2: much as I want you to get me food.
- 16:34Speaker 8: That's it.
- 16:35Speaker 1: Yeah, that's it.
- 16:36Speaker 2: I don't necessarily need you to take me anywhere. I
- 16:38Speaker 2: don't necessarily need you to make sure I'm healthy.
- 16:41Speaker 4: Just give me food.
- 16:42Speaker 1: Yeah. I think it's nice to have someone to depend on.
- 16:46Speaker 1: I guess the question is more like the stereotypes, but
- 16:49Speaker 1: I think it's nice to have someone to depend on. It. Also,
- 16:51Speaker 1: sometimes you don't want to be in control all the time.
- 16:53Speaker 7: Yeah, sometimes you just want to like turn your brain off. Yeah,
- 16:56Speaker 7: you know, I think that's the yeah thing.
- 16:59Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm fine.
- 17:05Speaker 4: I did not need anyone to hold my hand.
- 17:09Speaker 6: I love I think he's so like decil most of
- 17:14Speaker 6: the time.
- 17:14Speaker 2: Oh yeah, he made a mistake and try to try
- 17:17Speaker 2: to gaslight her. Yeah, we won't talk about that later
- 17:21Speaker 2: till till later, But yeah he is the Yeah, I
- 17:25Speaker 2: think I would be with Steve. Yeah, I've always.
- 17:27Speaker 1: Loved and.
- 17:30Speaker 2: Well we haven't exactly established that yet.
- 17:32Speaker 4: No d t R yet.
- 17:34Speaker 1: Nought what that means.
- 17:37Speaker 8: Do you know what d t R is?
- 17:38Speaker 3: I don't think.
- 17:39Speaker 4: Oh my god, I don't know defining the relationship.
- 17:44Speaker 6: Like I said, my relationship is pre internet like.
- 17:49Speaker 1: Before.
- 17:51Speaker 2: So like because this was like online duty thousand and five,
- 17:56Speaker 2: having a d t R girl, you got to remember, bro,
- 18:00Speaker 2: I'm yeah good several years Like this is old schools okay, okay,
- 18:11Speaker 2: So I think this came around like twenty two thousand
- 18:14Speaker 2: and five. It's like when people talking about the DTR.
- 18:17Speaker 2: You know, you gotta put initials to everything, especially time.
- 18:21Speaker 9: Yeah. I one cab ride and two potent sleeping pills later,
- 18:31Speaker 9: Steve put Miranda to bed.
- 18:32Speaker 3: All right, okay, give me give me your leg No.
- 18:36Speaker 7: Yeah, this, like Miranda is like her level of wanting
- 18:40Speaker 7: to be independent is like an actual detriment to her. Yeah,
- 18:43Speaker 7: like thinking that you're gonna leave Lasik eye surgery alone. Yeah, crazy.
- 18:49Speaker 1: I used to jokingly call this the single Lady Olympics,
- 18:52Speaker 1: or I'd be like, I have.
- 18:53Speaker 4: To do this by myself.
- 18:55Speaker 6: What more can I do alone?
- 18:58Speaker 2: At least you have to do it one time. I'm
- 19:00Speaker 2: to prove to yourself and then after that, okay, you
- 19:02Speaker 2: can help me. Yeah, it's one of those levels. Actually,
- 19:04Speaker 2: this couch is really heavy. My stairs are very dodging.
- 19:09Speaker 7: What I can't stop thinking about now is that there's
- 19:11Speaker 7: this discourse about like lasick being like terrible. Yeah, people
- 19:15Speaker 7: are havings who never get lasick but give lasick to
- 19:20Speaker 7: other people.
- 19:20Speaker 1: Yeah, so that made me think about that. Yeah.
- 19:23Speaker 2: I mean I've heard people talking about the fact that
- 19:25Speaker 2: they've had a lot of problems.
- 19:26Speaker 4: It doesn't work. It was reversed later on always yeah.
- 19:30Speaker 1: Yeah, well I had it and it's been a long
- 19:33Speaker 1: time and I think it's good. I loved it.
- 19:35Speaker 4: Yeah, I still love it.
- 19:37Speaker 2: I've been told by several that my stigmatism is way
- 19:40Speaker 2: too intense, and they gave me alternatives. It's like, you're
- 19:43Speaker 2: never going to have I'm like, well, then, what's the point.
- 19:49Speaker 4: I am.
- 19:53Speaker 3: I don't know what I'm doing.
- 19:55Speaker 4: Okay, I'm standing here all the cordless phones. Watching that,
- 20:00Speaker 4: I kind of love it.
- 20:02Speaker 7: Yeah, I feel like we should bring back home phone
- 20:04Speaker 7: so you don't have to give out your cell phone
- 20:06Speaker 7: all the time.
- 20:07Speaker 2: Yeah, what's so funny to me? I laughed because there
- 20:10Speaker 2: was a TikTok video of like we need to do
- 20:12Speaker 2: something where you just have a phone that's a central
- 20:15Speaker 2: phone for everyone at home, and everybody's like it's called
- 20:17Speaker 2: the hell.
- 20:20Speaker 9: Line.
- 20:23Speaker 2: Bring back corded phones, the ones that were on the wall.
- 20:28Speaker 2: My grandparents, Yes, my parents still have one parents.
- 20:40Speaker 3: Nice pole. I want to see it again.
- 20:43Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 20:46Speaker 9: Oh, Samantha rode the poll a couple of times that night.
- 20:51Speaker 2: There's other firefighters in the other room exactly like they're
- 20:55Speaker 2: in a public transport.
- 20:56Speaker 6: And she's not even trying to be discreet.
- 20:58Speaker 4: This is hubble, you don't care. I should be a
- 21:02Speaker 4: fireman because I'm always ready to go. Yeah, she's on duty,
- 21:15Speaker 4: like she's fully in someone's clothing.
- 21:20Speaker 1: Why she she's like, wait, what's happening?
- 21:23Speaker 4: Like I'm at a fire station, what is happening?
- 21:29Speaker 2: Obviously they were already set up for emergency situations.
- 21:40Speaker 1: She's a pretty good job.
- 21:41Speaker 2: It's like man herself pretty well, She's done this before Yeah,
- 21:47Speaker 2: not her first row.
- 21:50Speaker 3: You can tell, so you are pretty much wrong.
- 22:13Speaker 4: You definitely get like an you.
- 22:15Speaker 7: Did say something about their dealing with their own crisis,
- 22:19Speaker 7: maybe literal or not.
- 22:20Speaker 2: All right, that's how throwing answer. Well, the one as
- 22:24Speaker 2: that you typically give is the whole they go to
- 22:27Speaker 2: a party or they go to a p which I
- 22:29Speaker 2: was waiting for that because that's also true.
- 22:32Speaker 3: I'll give you a D.
- 22:33Speaker 2: Then I'll give you a D. The s C, even
- 22:38Speaker 2: though it was an s C, I, even though it
- 22:40Speaker 2: was a good guess, was way off. And the fact
- 22:42Speaker 2: that there was no mention of fire or firefighters, the firefighters,
- 22:46Speaker 2: I don't think you would have gotten.
- 22:47Speaker 4: That's that's a big stretch.
- 22:49Speaker 6: You're sure saying fire.
- 22:51Speaker 1: You miss the like big piece of Chris.
- 22:57Speaker 2: Christina's episode was fairly uh more on topic because I
- 23:02Speaker 2: think that this was a little more like em there's
- 23:05Speaker 2: no actual fire, there's no smoke as where because Christina's
- 23:09Speaker 2: was about the batter up or she was the opening
- 23:12Speaker 2: of season two right in which they go to a
- 23:15Speaker 2: baseball game, okay, and so she's like, did they mentioned balls?
- 23:18Speaker 2: And she's like, they're going to talk about baseball or ball?
- 23:21Speaker 2: It's like her Christina, but like it also mentioning of
- 23:25Speaker 2: like the balls and there was so like she was
- 23:30Speaker 2: on it.
- 23:30Speaker 4: But this one is a little more I guess, metaphorical
- 23:34Speaker 4: than the other. So i'll give you that.
- 23:36Speaker 6: Which there's smoke.
- 23:37Speaker 7: What do we think the title was referring to specifically,
- 23:40Speaker 7: other than the fire, maybe.
- 23:41Speaker 4: The rescuing.
- 23:44Speaker 6: Where there's smoke, there's like distress.
- 23:46Speaker 2: Yeah, in general, Like that's what because like there was
- 23:49Speaker 2: a lot of conversation of rescuing, so you would have
- 23:51Speaker 2: thought that would have been like something different in that level.
- 23:55Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, I guess all the men in this
- 23:58Speaker 7: episode at some point where attempting to enact some sort
- 24:02Speaker 7: of rescuing or idea of what rescuing looks like. We're
- 24:07Speaker 7: playing into a fantasy and some point yeah, yeah, and
- 24:12Speaker 7: the thing is like.
- 24:13Speaker 2: Okay, in this point, we do see where there's a
- 24:20Speaker 2: fear of not having a rescuer and then there's a
- 24:23Speaker 2: fear of having a rescuer.
- 24:24Speaker 4: You have that two very distinct complicated crisis.
- 24:29Speaker 7: As you would say, Yeah, yeah, I mean, I would
- 24:32Speaker 7: say I think a lot of the conversations that they
- 24:35Speaker 7: were having in this specific episode are pretty relevant to
- 24:37Speaker 7: you today. You know, I think a lot of women
- 24:40Speaker 7: are in this particular place where, you know, it is
- 24:45Speaker 7: more we've gotten to a point where it is more
- 24:48Speaker 7: acceptable to be an independent woman. But then you get
- 24:50Speaker 7: to a point where you're like, oh wait, like if
- 24:53Speaker 7: I want these things companionship or friendship or family with
- 25:00Speaker 7: another person, whatever, it is, like, how am I gonna
- 25:03Speaker 7: get that? Does that mean I have to sacrifice on
- 25:05Speaker 7: my independence or you know, I think this was a
- 25:08Speaker 7: very relevant episode. I would say as far as most
- 25:11Speaker 7: of them go.
- 25:12Speaker 2: I think we're also having that conversation because the trad
- 25:16Speaker 2: wife thing is coming back really quickly. So you've had
- 25:18Speaker 2: the two extremes because for a minute, for a split second,
- 25:23Speaker 2: there was this understanding that you do want it all
- 25:26Speaker 2: and what does that mean? And it's okay to be
- 25:29Speaker 2: a stay at home mom. That's not a problem. That's
- 25:32Speaker 2: not the problem at all. It's the choices of whether
- 25:34Speaker 2: or not you can and whether you want to. Both
- 25:36Speaker 2: of those are in conversation, and now it's kind of
- 25:39Speaker 2: like back into the extreme of like, well, we have
- 25:41Speaker 2: to combat what tradwives are doing in that level of
- 25:44Speaker 2: like you are telling us that we are wrong for
- 25:46Speaker 2: not wanting to be a mom afore making bread at
- 25:50Speaker 2: home and telling everybody I listened to my husband type
- 25:54Speaker 2: of conversation in a very heteronormative conversation. So like it's
- 25:58Speaker 2: it feels like this was in the moment of like
- 26:01Speaker 2: starting to understand that it's not a bad thing to
- 26:05Speaker 2: want to be a stay at home mom. It's not
- 26:06Speaker 2: a bad thing to not want to be a stay
- 26:08Speaker 2: at home mom, to want to be married, to not
- 26:10Speaker 2: want to be married, to take a last name, to
- 26:13Speaker 2: not take you know, like all these like complicated conversations,
- 26:16Speaker 2: and like the understanding that feminism, or especially when it
- 26:19Speaker 2: comes to intersectionality, is the choice.
- 26:22Speaker 4: That's that's the conversation.
- 26:23Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, I think to your point about trad wives,
- 26:26Speaker 7: I think it's very interesting, especially when you bring in
- 26:28Speaker 7: the intersectional pieces that you know, there's some people who
- 26:32Speaker 7: are being pointed to is like this epitome of tradwife culture,
- 26:36Speaker 7: but they're actually kind of the antithesis because they don't
- 26:39Speaker 7: fall into the white, you know, Anglo saxon, you know,
- 26:42Speaker 7: stereotype of what a trad wife would be. So in
- 26:45Speaker 7: some sense, it is kind of like a rebellion of
- 26:49Speaker 7: sorts to be able to occupy this you know, visual
- 26:54Speaker 7: of what a tradwife might look like, but in a
- 26:56Speaker 7: body that doesn't represent what it would have been. So
- 27:00Speaker 7: it's like they're all of these different rethinking like what
- 27:03Speaker 7: is possible and what that means and what's okay and
- 27:06Speaker 7: what's not. Like I think sometimes we are so in
- 27:09Speaker 7: the point of like we want women to be independent
- 27:12Speaker 7: and be able to take care of themselves that like
- 27:14Speaker 7: seeing someone be reliant on a partner feels aggressive in
- 27:20Speaker 7: the other sense of like you're pushing against my freedom
- 27:23Speaker 7: in some way.
- 27:25Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, and definitely.
- 27:26Speaker 2: The conversation I think again it comes back to like, no,
- 27:29Speaker 2: the bottom line is choosing. Do they have the freedom
- 27:34Speaker 2: to choose in either way. It's like the other conversation
- 27:36Speaker 2: is that with this whole, especially when CIS men come
- 27:41Speaker 2: into play, and having this conversation of like you're not
- 27:43Speaker 2: gonna get married and you're gonna you're gonna regret these things,
- 27:45Speaker 2: and you're not gonna have children, You're gonna regret these things.
- 27:47Speaker 2: No one's gonna want you after this point in time,
- 27:49Speaker 2: and telling women they have a timeline. But then like
- 27:51Speaker 2: having that aloud conversation like yeah, I would love to
- 27:54Speaker 2: be the housewife as you would call it, which is
- 27:57Speaker 2: really outdated. Yeah, in that I say, you actually do
- 28:01Speaker 2: bring all of the money, and then I will be
- 28:03Speaker 2: that you do whatever I want. Like that is that
- 28:08Speaker 2: is a great ideal, but that's no longer what like
- 28:11Speaker 2: is expected. It's like, no, we do fifty to fifty
- 28:12Speaker 2: and then I do eighty percent of the housework, and like.
- 28:15Speaker 6: That's one hundred.
- 28:18Speaker 4: Because at the veriliest at least.
- 28:20Speaker 2: You need to go bow of the yard, like some
- 28:22Speaker 2: ideas in that level. Yeah, but like that's that conversation
- 28:26Speaker 2: of like, okay, but what does this look like? Because
- 28:29Speaker 2: in the end, like for a lot of women who
- 28:33Speaker 2: have and I'm putting this and when I say women,
- 28:35Speaker 2: I'm including all women people marginalized communities, knowing that they
- 28:41Speaker 2: can't rely on anyone else because they've been told or
- 28:45Speaker 2: they've seen an evidence in their life that it's not
- 28:48Speaker 2: going to be that way. And so part of the
- 28:51Speaker 2: thing of not relying is not because they don't want to,
- 28:53Speaker 2: is because they can't they don't trust it, or they've
- 28:56Speaker 2: been burned.
- 28:56Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a whole different conversation.
- 28:58Speaker 2: Right in this because like Miranda has that level of
- 29:01Speaker 2: both of those things, and like, I don't completely trust
- 29:04Speaker 2: you because to be fair, Steve walked away because he
- 29:07Speaker 2: was very insecure about not making as much money than her,
- 29:10Speaker 2: because she was all in round one, you know, and
- 29:14Speaker 2: he's the one that left. He felt emasculated when she's like,
- 29:17Speaker 2: I'll just buy you the suit, yeah, to an event,
- 29:20Speaker 2: you know, like this is like that level of like okay,
- 29:22Speaker 2: and then coming back in so she's not fully gonna
- 29:25Speaker 2: invest I wouldn't either. I am one of those two,
- 29:27Speaker 2: like in that I'm a Miranda level, which for the
- 29:30Speaker 2: long time I thought this is not a good thing.
- 29:32Speaker 2: I don't want to be Miranda. I am in Miranda
- 29:35Speaker 2: in that like if you burn me, I'm gonna be
- 29:38Speaker 2: very cautious. I'm gonna be that's very cautious. I'm still
- 29:43Speaker 2: a Libra. So I'll give you a chance until you
- 29:44Speaker 2: until you get her too. So I know, I'll give
- 29:48Speaker 2: you some leeway for a while, but if it gets
- 29:50Speaker 2: too then I shut down.
- 29:55Speaker 1: I do think it's interesting. One of the things in
- 29:58Speaker 1: watching this show now, so many times things that were
- 30:02Speaker 1: romanticized then are not. Yeah, and so in this case,
- 30:05Speaker 1: like I do feel like Charlotte's violent fellow, Well, at
- 30:09Speaker 1: the end she realized he was bad, but that was
- 30:11Speaker 1: kind of like a romanticize all the guy's gonna protect you,
- 30:13Speaker 1: he's gonna step in. You've got this stalker guy, which
- 30:16Speaker 1: was romanticized for all time. And then like, yeah, Miranda,
- 30:20Speaker 1: on the other side, I did that too, because like
- 30:23Speaker 1: literally with the I thing, because I was afraid, like
- 30:28Speaker 1: saying yes would mean more to him than it meant
- 30:32Speaker 1: to me, even if I was very clear like that's
- 30:35Speaker 1: not what this is about, true that he'd be like, oh, yeah,
- 30:38Speaker 1: to get you. And then they get home and it's like,
- 30:39Speaker 1: can I guess you're not You're like, no.
- 30:42Speaker 4: What I told you?
- 30:45Speaker 1: And she did.
- 30:46Speaker 2: She was like, we don't know what we are the
- 30:48Speaker 2: dt D never forget the DTR because she was like,
- 30:53Speaker 2: you know, we haven't established and she's also saying that
- 30:56Speaker 2: to the front. She was like, there's no having of
- 30:58Speaker 2: the thieve, which is line in that like.
- 31:01Speaker 6: Yeah, he literally slept in her bed.
- 31:03Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, but we know.
- 31:05Speaker 2: And that's the other part in that conversation, like we've
- 31:08Speaker 2: come a long way with women being able to be
- 31:10Speaker 2: sexually free and being like that doesn't mean I have
- 31:12Speaker 2: to commit to you, just like you might not commit
- 31:14Speaker 2: to me.
- 31:15Speaker 8: Yeah.
- 31:15Speaker 1: I mean with Stamantha that was nice where she was like,
- 31:18Speaker 1: you know, this is my fantasy, dudes do it all
- 31:20Speaker 1: the time, and the let's go she did.
- 31:23Speaker 7: Also, that guy was like very like he had nothing
- 31:26Speaker 7: going on, so I don't think he would have caught
- 31:30Speaker 7: on anyway.
- 31:32Speaker 4: I don't think he cared.
- 31:33Speaker 2: He was nice, but he's like, hey, all right, so Annie,
- 31:41Speaker 2: we have had what just happened? Do you have any
- 31:43Speaker 2: now do you have any predictions of maybe things to come?
- 31:48Speaker 8: Well?
- 31:49Speaker 1: Oh, I don't know. I don't know how long the
- 31:51Speaker 1: slattery you guys gonna stay around. I think Steve is
- 31:54Speaker 1: gonna I think Steve is gonna get back into the picture.
- 31:58Speaker 1: I'm now convinced a and will show up, but I
- 32:02Speaker 1: don't know when that might be a mid season reveal.
- 32:06Speaker 1: I do feel bad because I'm doing the thing that
- 32:08Speaker 1: bready complain about, Like I'm assuming guys are going to
- 32:11Speaker 1: come to the fiction.
- 32:13Speaker 7: I mean fair like the show is kind of a
- 32:18Speaker 7: you know, friendship of course, but also the relationships that
- 32:21Speaker 7: they're right.
- 32:22Speaker 4: But it's like it's also very heteronormous, like very like
- 32:28Speaker 4: that level.
- 32:28Speaker 2: Except for one episode that is coming through that's ridiculously problematic,
- 32:33Speaker 2: like you're you're going to be offended.
- 32:34Speaker 1: It's bad.
- 32:35Speaker 4: It's like like one of the.
- 32:39Speaker 2: Yeah, like it'sn't that level, like they're trying to be open,
- 32:44Speaker 2: you can like it is one of those badly placed like.
- 32:47Speaker 7: Like season three, the critics were probably yeah, I don't know,
- 32:51Speaker 7: maybe not at the time, maybe they weren't like representation.
- 32:55Speaker 2: No, it wasn't they wanted representation, but it was all
- 32:58Speaker 2: kit cheek, token ish, yeah, citation, and then they were
- 33:01Speaker 2: trying to make it a joke, which is why we've
- 33:04Speaker 2: seen a lot. Like one of the big problematic episodes
- 33:06Speaker 2: I remember from thirty Rock, it's similar to this in
- 33:08Speaker 2: which she talks about like she's giving out love advice
- 33:12Speaker 2: and then they're like, you know he's bisexual.
- 33:14Speaker 4: She's like, there's no such thing. It's just a layover
- 33:16Speaker 4: to gay town or whatever. That's what she says.
- 33:22Speaker 2: But like, but like it's so problematic, you're like, oh,
- 33:25Speaker 2: but they're trying to be funny. Yeah, And that's kind
- 33:28Speaker 2: of what Sex and the City does too, from a
- 33:31Speaker 2: very queer from very queer staff, Like we know that
- 33:33Speaker 2: the creator is a queer man, and so it's.
- 33:36Speaker 4: Kind of like oh you didn't think that went through.
- 33:39Speaker 7: But also at the time, I think like in the
- 33:41Speaker 7: community there was probably just more acceptance of that as well.
- 33:43Speaker 2: Right, So there's so many things, But yes, I think
- 33:49Speaker 2: we got the predictions put it in my head.
- 33:52Speaker 4: Did not forget you had it? What did you think?
- 33:56Speaker 6: I really liked this episode.
- 33:57Speaker 7: I think it was kind of it was a soft launch,
- 34:01Speaker 7: is how I feel about for a season opener. It
- 34:04Speaker 7: was like a nice easing in, you know, nothing too crazy,
- 34:08Speaker 7: but I felt like, you know, we really got a
- 34:10Speaker 7: good sense of where everybody is currently, like where there
- 34:13Speaker 7: their consciousness is, where everybody's thinking, and like that lays
- 34:17Speaker 7: the groundwork for the rest of the season.
- 34:19Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean I loved it.
- 34:20Speaker 7: I mean I haven't watched the show in so long,
- 34:22Speaker 7: so it was fun to bring it back. Yeah, to
- 34:25Speaker 7: get back in and like maybe I'll watch the rest
- 34:27Speaker 7: of the season.
- 34:28Speaker 1: I don't know.
- 34:30Speaker 2: So I do eventually think it's now that we have
- 34:34Speaker 2: had the entire team in at least one episode, we
- 34:37Speaker 2: need to come together maybe the season for Alley or something,
- 34:40Speaker 2: and have a whole like viewing.
- 34:42Speaker 4: With all of us.
- 34:43Speaker 1: That would be so good.
- 34:44Speaker 2: And this is what we've already talked with like trying
- 34:46Speaker 2: to get Joey in on it too, because we were
- 34:48Speaker 2: talking about them bringing bringing them in to watch the
- 34:52Speaker 2: final Twilight.
- 34:54Speaker 7: Oh oh my god, Okay, I need to I need
- 34:56Speaker 7: to brush up on Twilight because I specifically you recall
- 35:00Speaker 7: falling asleep in the second movie. I was dragged to
- 35:03Speaker 7: the midnight showing, right, so I do not remember anything,
- 35:10Speaker 7: but yeah, that might be even better though.
- 35:12Speaker 1: Yeah, to have the reaction to be like oh yeah,
- 35:14Speaker 1: oh no, oh yeah, yeah, good mix.
- 35:18Speaker 2: Well, thank you so much for sitting in with us,
- 35:20Speaker 2: for providing this lovely beverage has allowed me to stay awake.
- 35:24Speaker 6: Thank you for having me again. Yes for welcoming me back.
- 35:28Speaker 1: Yes, it was so fun.
- 35:29Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 35:29Speaker 1: I have missed these, so I'm excited to get through
- 35:32Speaker 1: the season and see where it goes. Yes, listeners, welcome back.
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