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Jags A.M. Podcast Ep. 200 | Lawrence, Passing Offense Show Major Growth in Week 14 vs. Colts · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: Welcome into jags Am today. I'm kind Annie Stephens, Brian Sexton,
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  Speaker 1: John Osier with me as we talk about another Jaguars
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  Speaker 1: win while also looking ahead to a challenge this week
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  Speaker 1: as they face off against the Jets. Let's give you
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  Speaker 1: our big Things for today, brought to you by g
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  Speaker 1: EAHA Government Employees Health Association. Big Thing number one is
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  Speaker 1: leading the way. We put a lot of pressure on
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  Speaker 1: the trenches on this team, and we should give some
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  Speaker 1: credit where it's due. The offensive line has looked excellent
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  Speaker 1: lately and with some rotating pieces in there, specifically Cold
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  Speaker 1: Van Lannon. Brian the quarterback didn't get touched in the
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  Speaker 1: game against excuse me, the game against the Cults on Sunday,
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  Speaker 1: and a lot of that due to what the offensive
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  Speaker 1: line was able to do.
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  Speaker 2: Without a doubt.
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  Speaker 3: And listen, leave it alone as long as you don't
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  Speaker 3: have other injuries. If you don't, by the way, that's
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  Speaker 3: a great sun for this team's prospects into January.
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  Speaker 2: But leave it alone.
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  Speaker 3: Colvan Lannon is playing as well as any of your
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  Speaker 3: offensive lineman right now. And forget the fact that he's
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  Speaker 3: played at four different positions. He's just playing great football.
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  Speaker 3: Leave him in place. And by the way, I don't
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  Speaker 3: think I need to plead the case. I think the
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  Speaker 3: Jaguars brass knows he's one of those guys.
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  Speaker 2: John.
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  Speaker 3: You just got to find a way to keep him
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  Speaker 3: on the field. No matter what he does for you,
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  Speaker 3: he's doing it really well.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, he's been remarkable. Teams talk these days about having
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  Speaker 4: eight starting offensive linemen.
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  Speaker 5: Most teams don't.
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  Speaker 4: This team feels like it's got six, seven or eight,
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  Speaker 4: and Colvan Land's a big reason for that. He might
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  Speaker 4: be two or three of them by himself. Look the
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  Speaker 4: offensive line this year. No offensive line has perfect seventeen games,
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  Speaker 4: but over a thirteen game period, this group has been
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  Speaker 4: good and really good far more often than not.
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  Speaker 3: And you know, a great example of this guy, and
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  Speaker 3: we saw it. I'm sure a lot of people watch
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  Speaker 3: the Texans Chiefs on Sunday night because of the implications
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  Speaker 3: to the Jaguars, and you saw. I mean the Chiefs
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  Speaker 3: were down to backups, had four of five spots and
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  Speaker 3: then lost the backup at left tackle right they were
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  Speaker 3: on their third left tackle and they couldn't do anything
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  Speaker 3: all night long. So the importance of the offensive line
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  Speaker 3: is impossible to overstate.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely I think Colvid Landon's earned a spot on the
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  Speaker 1: roster wherever that's going to be at this point. He
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  Speaker 1: was at left tackle last week. So our second big
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  Speaker 1: thing is going to be big play day. We talked
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  Speaker 1: a ton about getting the deep ball going and what
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  Speaker 1: we wanted to see there. Brian Thomas Junior had some
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  Speaker 1: big catches in the game and kind of flashing, showing
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  Speaker 1: what we know he's capable of. Liam Cohan talked a
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  Speaker 1: little bit about Btj's confidence.
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  Speaker 6: I think just getting healthier, right Like as a wide
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  Speaker 6: out and you got an ankle like, that's just it's hard.
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  Speaker 6: It's hard to feel confident probably going out and cutting
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  Speaker 6: and running and stopping and making plays. And I think
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  Speaker 6: right now he just feels better, he feels healthier. He's
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  Speaker 6: been practicing hard, he's been practicing full speed. He's him
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  Speaker 6: in the quarterback and Trevor have worked at it like
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  Speaker 6: they've worked, They put time into it, and it showed
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  Speaker 6: up yesterday in a big way for us. That's an
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  Speaker 6: area of our offense that has been much needed, and
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  Speaker 6: to have his show up yesterday was such a good
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  Speaker 6: thing to see.
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  Speaker 1: John Brian obviously had a great game on the field,
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  Speaker 1: we hear he's practicing better. Also that I think the
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  Speaker 1: influence that we've seen it from Jacoby Meyers, addition to
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  Speaker 1: that wide receiver room is rubbing off on him a
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  Speaker 1: little bit as well.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's really important that he is this factor. I
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  Speaker 4: think just as big as BTJ, as the fact that
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  Speaker 4: Trevor also worked Tim Patrick in deep He's throwing the
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  Speaker 4: deep ball better. I think if BTJ gives them this
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  Speaker 4: element and gives them that fear factor I think I
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  Speaker 4: talked about earlier this week. Now defenses have to worry
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  Speaker 4: about him as well. In the offense, it's going to
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  Speaker 4: open up a lot more thing. This element, Brian has
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  Speaker 4: been the one element that is lacked in this offense.
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  Speaker 4: It's been a really good offense all year. Hasn't been great.
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  Speaker 2: This might make it great, And you know it wasn't
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  Speaker 2: the only one.
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  Speaker 3: The dependable hands of Jacoby Myers was an element that
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  Speaker 3: was missing from this offense, and the presence of Brenton
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  Speaker 3: Strange and everything that he brings was missing. Now you've
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  Speaker 3: got those two pieces, two dependable guys that like the
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  Speaker 3: middle of the field, which allows Brian Thomas Junior to
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  Speaker 3: run the routes that he likes best twenty five or
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  Speaker 3: more yards down the field. I'm not saying he won't
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  Speaker 3: go over the middle, because he did on his first catch,
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  Speaker 3: the sixteen yarder to set up traves Etn's first touchdown.
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  Speaker 3: He will, but he's more comfortable running deep routes and
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  Speaker 3: being way down the field and letting his length and
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  Speaker 3: his speed and his height come into play for Trevor Lawrence.
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  Speaker 3: If Lawrence is throwing the ball accurately outside the numbers
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  Speaker 3: in down the field, then BTJ is the guy Whi's
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  Speaker 3: really the telling part here is that all the different
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  Speaker 3: pieces that have their specific roles in this offense are
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  Speaker 3: healthy and back on the field together at a critical
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  Speaker 3: time of the season.
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  Speaker 4: And kay, I think about what they did the other day. Look,
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  Speaker 4: they were a very good passing team. I felt like
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  Speaker 4: they had a lot of options. And Parker Washington, the
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  Speaker 4: guy who has become sort of the one, didn't even
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  Speaker 4: play and we didn't talk about it. So now you
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  Speaker 4: go five deep with really reliable pass catchers in this offense.
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  Speaker 4: It wasn't the case in September.
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  Speaker 3: And we have to mention the Travis Hunters on injury
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  Speaker 3: reserve because we've talked about all these incredible parts that
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  Speaker 3: are of a sudden there and you're playing without a
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  Speaker 3: guy that you thought at one point this year you
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  Speaker 3: would have playing well at the end of the year.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it'd be great to see what he looks like
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  Speaker 1: when he comes back next season. If they can all
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  Speaker 1: continue to play this well this year and then build
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  Speaker 1: on it next year as well. Our final big thing
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  Speaker 1: today is going to be week by week. This team
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  Speaker 1: thrives their best to take everything day by day and
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  Speaker 1: week by week, and this week it will be a
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  Speaker 1: challenge they're going to take on the New York Jets. Brian,
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  Speaker 1: I think when we talk a little bit about what
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  Speaker 1: they can find motivation and they talk about the disrespect
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  Speaker 1: a lot, but they also got to have some internal
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  Speaker 1: focus this week well.
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  Speaker 3: And I have complete confidence in Liam Cohen to get
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  Speaker 3: that done, because if you go back to the Houston loss,
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  Speaker 3: he had his team focused only on the Chargers. He
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  Speaker 3: didn't let them sit back in feel sorry for themselves
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  Speaker 3: in the Houston game. He moved them through quickly and
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  Speaker 3: got them ready to go. I expect that he will
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  Speaker 3: be able to have his team focused and ready to
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  Speaker 3: go for the Jets. Records need nothing at this point
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  Speaker 3: of the season. That was his comment on Wednesday of
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  Speaker 3: the Chargers week. I'm sorry, not the Chargers week, the
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  Speaker 3: week against the the Titans, and I expect him to
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  Speaker 3: say the exact same thing this week and have his
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  Speaker 3: team ready to go.
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  Speaker 2: He's proven he can do it. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Look, I don't know if the Jaguars will win Sunday.
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  Speaker 4: You never know in the NFL, but I do believe
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  Speaker 4: that they will be ready to play, and I don't
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  Speaker 4: think there will be any you know, overlooking anything like that.
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  Speaker 4: This is still a young team and a team where
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  Speaker 4: this is new to them, and they still believe, as
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  Speaker 4: Travis etn that nobody likes them. So I don't I
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  Speaker 4: would be stunned if you see a drop off that
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  Speaker 4: you can attribute to complacency. It just doesn't feel like
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  Speaker 4: what this team is.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, Fields, the hunger is definitely still there. Say with
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  Speaker 1: us here on jag Zam, we're gonna do a little
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  Speaker 1: this or that about the team coming up after the breaks.
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  Speaker 1: This cool looking back into jag Zam today as we
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  Speaker 1: get ready for a matchup against the Jets, we're kind
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  Speaker 1: of looking at the team so far the season, where
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  Speaker 1: they're at. I think they're certainly past what we expected,
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  Speaker 1: maybe in this first year of the new regime. But
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna take a little cue from National because I've
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  Speaker 1: heard a couple of different people talking about this, and
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  Speaker 1: we talked touched on it yesterday. But Trevor looked as
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  Speaker 1: good as I've seen him in my three This is
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  Speaker 1: my third season, so my three years here. But obviously
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  Speaker 1: you guys know him a little bit better and you've
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  Speaker 1: seen more out of him. But do you feel like
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  Speaker 1: that was the best game that we've seen from Trevor?
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  Speaker 1: A most complete game we've seen from Trevor.
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  Speaker 3: To me, if it wasn't the best game, it was
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  Speaker 3: certainly the second best game. He was protected and he
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  Speaker 3: made all the throws. And I think the most telling
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  Speaker 3: throw John was that rollout, that naked rollout to the
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  Speaker 3: left side that he threw to Tim Patrick down the sideline.
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  Speaker 3: How many times have we seen him come out of
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  Speaker 3: that naked rollout and stumble and go too deep or
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  Speaker 3: stay too far from the sideline. I thought it was
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  Speaker 3: perfectly executed for maybe the first time I've seen him
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  Speaker 3: do that in his career, and it was right on target.
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  Speaker 3: Was that third down? It was a big play at
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  Speaker 3: the time. I just I thought he rose to the
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  Speaker 3: occasion in every single moment. If it wasn't his best man,
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  Speaker 3: make the case for it.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: And I don't even know specific plays or stats, but
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  Speaker 4: you guys watched the game, and you've watched him this
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  Speaker 4: year and last year things were a mess, and even
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  Speaker 4: in twenty two.
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  Speaker 5: Take stats out of it, just take the eye test.
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  Speaker 4: Didn't he just feel in control? I mean, and like
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  Speaker 4: every play he knew where he was supposed to go
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  Speaker 4: with it, confident with it. I never really put the
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  Speaker 4: ball in danger. That might have been one where I
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  Speaker 4: was like, oh, you know, and it was fine.
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  Speaker 5: He looked like a guy.
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  Speaker 4: I hate the word light comes on because there's gonna
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  Speaker 4: be games that are up and down. But he looked
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  Speaker 4: like a guy who belonged where he was and who
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  Speaker 4: knew that he was the best person to be there
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  Speaker 4: and that what he did was right. I said a
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  Speaker 4: couple of weeks ago, I don't know how much he
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  Speaker 4: listens to the noise, right, but I remember Camra Robinson
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  Speaker 4: telling me on his own podcast a couple of years back,
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  Speaker 4: because Cam had been criticized, right, and he said, there's
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  Speaker 4: a point where you sort of forget about it, and
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  Speaker 4: then there's point here just you truly don't care and
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  Speaker 4: you just go play. And I kind of wonder if
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  Speaker 4: Trevor's not at that with a let it rip five
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  Speaker 4: years into it, I kind of wonder if he's not
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  Speaker 4: at that point, Hey.
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  Speaker 5: You know what, I'm gonna go play.
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  Speaker 2: Well, it's worth pointing out.
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  Speaker 3: You know, we've seen in most games this year a
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  Speaker 3: moment where, even if it wasn't interceptage, you're like, no,
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  Speaker 3: you can't throw that one. I mean I did, that's
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  Speaker 3: too dangerous. The last two weeks, there has not been
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  Speaker 3: one of those plays.
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  Speaker 2: Nope, not at all.
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  Speaker 1: Even when you were cringing a little when he was
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  Speaker 1: rolling out, it worked perfectly.
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  Speaker 5: There's gonna be moments.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, he's gonna have games, Yeah, they're bad. Jalen
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  Speaker 4: Hurts this week had an awful game and he's really good.
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  Speaker 4: So there's gonna be moments like that. But don't you
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  Speaker 4: feel like in the last three weeks this is the
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  Speaker 4: best he's played since twenty three maybe late twenty two,
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  Speaker 4: and even in those there were picks and he would
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  Speaker 4: catch fire. These are solid quarterback performances of a guy
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  Speaker 4: who looks like he really knows what he's doing.
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  Speaker 3: People are not holding their breath waiting for mistakes anymore.
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  Speaker 1: No, it's great to watch, and it's nice to have
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  Speaker 1: that confidence and trust in your quarterback. I'm looking at
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  Speaker 1: some of the points in the season. I feel like
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  Speaker 1: we're pivotal moments. We've talked a ton about it. The
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  Speaker 1: loss to the Texans, right, the kind of falling apart
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  Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter, for lack of a better way
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  Speaker 1: to describe it. And when you're looking at the playoff
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  Speaker 1: race now with the Texans kind of getting back in reach,
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  Speaker 1: and you're probably looking and saying, oh, I kind of
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  Speaker 1: want that one back. But for me, I feel like
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  Speaker 1: the Texans loss really drove them to the team that
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  Speaker 1: they are, so John, when I'm looking at this a
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  Speaker 1: little bit, do you feel like the Texans game, the
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  Speaker 1: loss was almost needed to get them to this point,
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  Speaker 1: Like you kind of use it as a turning point
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  Speaker 1: or would you rather have that win on the roster, Yeah, schedule.
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  Speaker 5: I think if they'd given up a big lead and
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  Speaker 5: still won.
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  Speaker 4: They've kindly gotten the same lesson, so but yes, for
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  Speaker 4: whatever happened, did teach them lesson. I also look at
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  Speaker 4: the Texans game a little differently than people. They got
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  Speaker 4: that big lead from some turnovers, they had two hundred
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  Speaker 4: yards offense or two hundred and thirty five. They really
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  Speaker 4: didn't dominate the Texans. They got themselves in a position
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  Speaker 4: where they should have won the game. Realistically, don't you
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  Speaker 4: feel like those two teams it's sort of right that
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  Speaker 4: they split, because I mean it, karma whatever.
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  Speaker 5: They probably both deserve.
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  Speaker 4: To beat the other one and enter the two best teams.
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  Speaker 4: But I do think the way that game ended, with
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  Speaker 4: the pass rush not being able to get anything done,
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  Speaker 4: it certainly inspired that much. And a defense that felt
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  Speaker 4: like it was good all season had had sort of
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  Speaker 4: a mind slip game and they're very, very good now.
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  Speaker 4: So yeah, I'll say, Brian, they needed it, though I
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  Speaker 4: think again, I think if they won with a field
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  Speaker 4: goal at the ends.
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  Speaker 3: Well, listen, find me a perfect team, right There hasn't
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  Speaker 3: been one since nineteen seventy two, and in that case,
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  Speaker 3: every team since then has a game that you look
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  Speaker 3: back at and say, if this then that you hope
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  Speaker 3: that the Texans game, you say, this is the game
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  Speaker 3: that prompted us to play better football, as posed to
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  Speaker 3: we would have won the division if we held on
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  Speaker 3: and won that game, but instead the schedule rolled out
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  Speaker 3: and the Texans won out and we lost one. You know,
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  Speaker 3: I mean, that's all the scenarios that are in place
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  Speaker 3: right now you kind of worry about.
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  Speaker 2: I'm just sure the belief.
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  Speaker 3: My dad always us to say, Brian, it isn't what
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  Speaker 3: happens to you, it's what you do about it. And
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  Speaker 3: so what happened was they didn't make a play on
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  Speaker 3: offense or on defense, but they came back the next
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  Speaker 3: week and started a winning streak. Yeah, they did something
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  Speaker 3: positive with it. So I will say absolutely it turns
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  Speaker 3: out to be a very positive thing because they did
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  Speaker 3: something positive with a negative outcome.
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  Speaker 4: And I keep harping on this because we sort of
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  Speaker 4: look for moments like this, and this is a good segment.
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  Speaker 4: But it's not like twenty twenty two where they struggled, struggled,
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  Speaker 4: struggle and then sort of caught fire on this late run.
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  Speaker 4: It seems been good all year, right. They started one
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  Speaker 4: to oh, they were four and one. They played two
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  Speaker 4: really good teams and the Rams and the Seaos to
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  Speaker 4: get to four and three. Guess what, the Texans are
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  Speaker 4: really good. It means their only flub up loss was
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  Speaker 4: the Cincinnati Week two. Other than that, I'd make the
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  Speaker 4: argument that the Texans, Rams, and the Seahawks right now
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  Speaker 4: might be among the top five or six teams.
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  Speaker 2: In the league.
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  Speaker 4: Sure, it takes a really good team right now to
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  Speaker 4: beat the Jaguars.
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  Speaker 2: Well, and listen, I mean, you look at the Eagles.
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  Speaker 3: They're struggling right now, But if they get hot late
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  Speaker 3: in the year, is anybody going to be surprised? Because
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  Speaker 3: they're a talented football team and they have the opportunity
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  Speaker 3: in front of them to make a run. So you
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  Speaker 3: have to look at your team from a whole perspective.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely, And I think that was a good opportunity to
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  Speaker 1: use as motivation, and they clearly have for the past
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  Speaker 1: couple of weeks. Say let's here, we're going to talk
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  Speaker 1: a little bit about what's going on around the NFL.
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  Speaker 1: inventory and go Jags. Welcome back into jag Zam. We're
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  Speaker 1: gonna talk a little bit about what's going on around
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  Speaker 1: the NFL. We're expanding past the ANFC South because there's
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: a lot of stuff going on different places. But let's
• 15:09
  Speaker 1: talk about the Colts. Obviously, the team we just played,
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  Speaker 1: just got to win over Daniel Jones. Of course confirmed
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: guy has that achilles injury. He'll be out for TBD
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  Speaker 1: a long amount of time, certainly not this season. And
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: the Colts now bringing in Philip Rivers, retired quarterback hasn't
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  Speaker 1: played since twenty twenty and he's on the practice squad
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  Speaker 1: now in Indianapolis.
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  Speaker 3: Listen, Philip Rivers is one of my favorite quarterbacks that
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  Speaker 3: I have ever watched.
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  Speaker 1: I think he's like the proto type of a quarterback,
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: like I feel like, just tough.
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  Speaker 2: And just the kind of person that he is.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, he just fit. He checked all the boxes me.
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  Speaker 3: I always loved watching him play when he was with
• 15:45
  Speaker 3: the Chargers. This move seems so desperate. Listen, Sometimes you
• 15:50
  Speaker 3: just make bad move after bad move. You're doubling down.
• 15:53
  Speaker 3: It was a terrible move to send your next two
• 15:54
  Speaker 3: first round picks to the Jets for Sauce Gardener.
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: Bad move.
• 15:58
  Speaker 3: Well, let's make another bad move. It makes no sense
• 16:02
  Speaker 3: to me. Forty four years, hasn't.
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: Played since twenty twenty. Can't possibly help you can't possibly?
• 16:09
  Speaker 5: I guess Jeff George wasn't answering the phones. No.
• 16:12
  Speaker 4: I mean, it does make sense on one level if
• 16:18
  Speaker 4: you think they're a running team that plays pretty good defense,
• 16:24
  Speaker 4: if you think that what you need is a guy
• 16:27
  Speaker 4: who can just go facilitate.
• 16:29
  Speaker 5: Like maybe the way Peyton did.
• 16:32
  Speaker 4: In the Broncos last Super Bowl run in the playoffs,
• 16:34
  Speaker 4: where his intelligence did it. I knew it and can
• 16:38
  Speaker 4: complete short passes.
• 16:41
  Speaker 2: Look, Peyton was not of the game for five years, though.
• 16:44
  Speaker 5: I didn't hurt.
• 16:45
  Speaker 4: Though I agree with you, I'm not saying that. I
• 16:49
  Speaker 4: don't think anybody in the Cults organization would tell you, Hey,
• 16:52
  Speaker 4: this was one of our cards to play during the
• 16:55
  Speaker 4: during training camp. But nobody would tell you that. It
• 17:00
  Speaker 4: doesn't fit into the phrase desperate times call for desperate measures.
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: Listen, I how hard to see it work. I hope
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: for his sake that Riley Leonard and Brett Rippon can play.
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I think the Colt would probably take
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: Joe Flacco back at this point right now even not
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: available obviously, but uh, something to keep an eye on there.
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: We'll see if Philip Rivers actually takes the field. As
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: mentioned before, Texans getting to win over the Chiefs and
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: at this point looks like the Chiefs are I just
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: the the what we've seen from the Chiefs obviously this
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: whole year, every single week, where like they don't look
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: like the Chiefs of old. They don't look like the
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: Chiefs of old. And I don't know have they have
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: they gone too far to bring it back?
• 17:36
  Speaker 4: Well, yeah, they're six and seven, so it it feels like, Look,
• 17:41
  Speaker 4: never say.
• 17:42
  Speaker 5: The Mahomes can't do it.
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: It's funny I do the Power rankings every week and
• 17:46
  Speaker 4: I keep sort of keeping them in the top fifteen
• 17:47
  Speaker 4: because every loss until.
• 17:49
  Speaker 5: This week was a tight loss to a good.
• 17:51
  Speaker 4: Team, or like their schedule has been brutal. That's never
• 17:55
  Speaker 4: affected him before because they've always been the toughest team
• 17:58
  Speaker 4: on everybody's schedule. I would guess in all logic would
• 18:03
  Speaker 4: tell you they're done. It seems like Kelsey, who is
• 18:08
  Speaker 4: a Hall of Famer, isn't quite the go to unlock
• 18:14
  Speaker 4: every secret code player that he once was. I can't
• 18:18
  Speaker 4: believe they recover from this. But ten and seven's also
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: on the table, which can get him in.
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: The draft is the great equalizer. It was designed right,
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: the inverted draft order to take the best teams and
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: put them at the bottom of every round, which allowed
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: the worst teams to draft the best players. I don't
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: care if you're really good at drafting, and they were
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: this year with Justin Simmons. Is Justin's Jason Simmons, the
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: left tackle from Ohio State, who's hurt and off them.
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: You can't possibly keep the talent level high when you
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: lose players through free agency, which they have and still
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: be able to be the Kansas City Chiefs.
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: They're not. They are not the same team, even.
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: Though Mahomes is there and Chris Jones and Travis Kelcey,
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: they're not the same roster. They've got to work on
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: drafting and they will middle of the pack and get
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: better players.
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: Yeah, the draft is the long term equalizer. The short
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: term equalizer is injuries to your offensive line. Yeah, and
• 19:15
  Speaker 4: injuries everywhere, but really the offensive line, We've all seen that,
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: and they are way late on that.
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: Couldn't do anything the other night.
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: Nothing talking about injuries to the offensive line. The Chargers
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: have been dealing with a lot and Justin Herbert I
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: think got sacked six or seven times last night, but
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: still found a way to get a win. And just
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: another team, You're like, oh, maybe they're kind of out
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: of it. They're finding their way back in as well.
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: They're very well coached, and they're getting one of their
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: running backs back. And that was the way that Harball
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: always wanted to play was run the ball and use
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: play action with Justin Herbert having time to stand in
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: the pocket and send the ball downfield. If their running
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: game comes back. Now their offensive line obviously they're down
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: to what their third left tackle and their second right tackle,
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: but at the running game can be a great equalizer.
• 19:58
  Speaker 5: Plus he's a tough kid.
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah, Herbert's a good, good player that you worry when
• 20:05
  Speaker 4: he gets beat up like he is this year. You
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: hope for his sake, sort of like Burrow, you know,
• 20:10
  Speaker 4: and those two guys I like as much as any
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: quarterback in the NFL.
• 20:14
  Speaker 5: Both of those guys taking a lot of shots. It's
• 20:17
  Speaker 5: like what you're worried about with Trevor last couple of years.
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: You know, at some point you don't want that wear
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: and tear to reduce a player's effectiveness over the long term.
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: But as long as Herbert's healthy for them, they're dangerous.
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: Hope he stays healthy because they host the Texans in
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: two weeks.
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: Yes they do. He had surgery on that non throwing him,
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: but didn't seem to affect him too much last night,
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: So clearly they're still able to get a win and
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: he's still able to be effective at the quarterback position.
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: Say it's here in Jackson will tell you what's coming
• 20:43
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• 20:54
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• 21:01
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• 21:06
  Speaker 1: and only a couple more home games if you want
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: to get out there. I don't think there's going to
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: be the rain situation. I think it's back to typical
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: sunny Florida weather, so high sixties, I think maybe seventy ish.
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: So with a football team, let's go.
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: That's what we've been talking about.
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: Two weeks before Christmas.
• 21:21
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and look, this Jets game is a big game.
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: I mean it's it's it's not eight and four versus
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: eight and four.
• 21:28
  Speaker 5: But the Texans are on your tail.
• 21:31
  Speaker 4: And I get that people haven't seen this, this sort
• 21:35
  Speaker 4: of contending, but every game in this stretch matters.
• 21:39
  Speaker 5: You know, the Jaguars of clinch right now. Nothing. They
• 21:41
  Speaker 5: haven't clinched to South. They're essentially in the playoffs right now,
• 21:45
  Speaker 5: but they haven't clinched.
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, I mean they're in a playoff race
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: right now with the Texas.
• 21:50
  Speaker 5: So it's look.
• 21:53
  Speaker 4: This, I've been back since twenty eleven. They had a
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: good season seventeen, a good season in twenty two. This
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: is fun, you know, if you can get there Sunday,
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: this is fun stuff and it's a fun team to watch.
• 22:06
  Speaker 5: So there's my pitch.
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: Jack's had a couple of good teams in the mid
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: two thousands when Jack Derio was here, But this feels
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: more like the late nineties with Tom Coughlin, where you
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: expected them to be able to play good football against
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: As we talked about the best teams, right you look
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: at the teams they've beaten this year, and they're good teams.
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: When the Daggars used to line up, you knew they
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: could go to to toe with the best teams.
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: Have that same feeling.
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: But as John just said, you also have to go
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: to totoe with the teams that aren't that good.
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: Right now, you've got to find a way to get
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: a win.
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: And the Jets can be a good game. I mean
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: they've started off with oh and seven and eight, three
• 22:40
  Speaker 4: and three. Always remember when you're playing a team that
• 22:43
  Speaker 4: has a first year head coach, that head coach is
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: probably not going to get fired. So guess what the
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: players want to play for this guy because he's been
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: making decisions in their future. Well, they're still all in.
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: This is not third year guy playing out the strength.
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: And we touched briefly last week on the season finale
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: here in twenty twenty one, when the Colts came down
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: and all they needed to do was find a way
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: to beat a team that had only won two all
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: season long, and they couldn't do it, not against a
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: rookie quarterback with an introom coach. So you've got to
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: remember the.
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: Past focus is important. We'll dive into that a little
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: bit on Thursday talk about specifically what they're going to
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: need to do against the Jets. So join us here
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: tomorrow on the jet Zam