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Smooth Sailing · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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  Speaker 1: This is the Benn and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast
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  Speaker 1: with her radio. This is the Almost Famous Podcast is
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  Speaker 1: episode three of this season of the Bachelor. There's a
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  Speaker 1: lot to break down, but before we do, Ashley, You're
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  Speaker 1: spend a little time with the family. It's very sweet
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  Speaker 1: us so tell all of our listeners just how great
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  Speaker 1: of a husband you you have. You had asked, maybe
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  Speaker 1: potentially for today off we were going to record uh
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  Speaker 1: yesterday Monday evening. I could not do that. I was
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  Speaker 1: flying back from Cedar Rapids, Iowa, where I played in
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  Speaker 1: a charity golf tournament alongside Sean Booth. I really still
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  Speaker 1: can't believe the amount that you you fly and then
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  Speaker 1: you return to this spot every week. Every week I'm here,
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  Speaker 1: there you are and magically you're God. And now you're back.
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  Speaker 1: I'm back and uh here here's a little shout out.
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  Speaker 1: Before we started, I want to give a little backstory.
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  Speaker 1: I did play in the Zack Johnson UH Foundation celebrity
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  Speaker 1: golf tournament I talked about every year, but they helped
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  Speaker 1: kids have a uh more fruitful education in the Cedar
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  Speaker 1: Rapids area, the first class. So I've been a part
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  Speaker 1: of this now for five years. The very first class
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  Speaker 1: of people are graduating from high school from their program
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  Speaker 1: this year. They're all thriving. It's a really incredible thing.
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  Speaker 1: But here is the small, small nugget. Nobody really cares
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  Speaker 1: about golf. I know that they're like another golf story. Holy,
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  Speaker 1: but if you follow golf at all, you know that
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  Speaker 1: on Sunday, Tony final one the rs M tournament in Minneapolis. Um,
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  Speaker 1: he was committed to coming down to play in this
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  Speaker 1: this golf tournament and Cedar Rapids. Now, obviously, if you win,
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  Speaker 1: nobody there was gonna be upset or like mad at
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  Speaker 1: him if he didn't come. He just won a big
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  Speaker 1: golf tournament for millions of dollars um. But he got
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  Speaker 1: on a plane that evening from Minneapolis flew to Cedar
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  Speaker 1: Rapids to participate in this charity event. And so shout
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  Speaker 1: out to Tony Finale for just being a good human
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  Speaker 1: and doing and keeping his yes is yes and his
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  Speaker 1: nose no. Um. It was it was inspiring to see that. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's right. Okay. So as I'm there at the golf tourament,
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  Speaker 1: I'm getting text Ashley or a couple of days before that,
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  Speaker 1: I guess Ashley was asking for potentially recording on Monday
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  Speaker 1: because she's at home with her family and she was
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  Speaker 1: hoping on Tuesday for her and Jared to kind of
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  Speaker 1: get away and do a nice couple's day together. And
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  Speaker 1: we all at the almost same as podcast said, yes,
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  Speaker 1: go do that. That's important. You should take a couple's
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  Speaker 1: day and enjoy the time with your husband. Well, actually
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  Speaker 1: felt good about that. But right now, as you hand
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  Speaker 1: me a cup of coffee that he just made for me,
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  Speaker 1: let's see, he's a great dude. Yeah, yeah, he's he's
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  Speaker 1: he's sweetie. He's sweetie. So your hair looks great. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: continue ben he Ashley then texts us and say, you
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  Speaker 1: know what, let's record on Tuesday because Jared did what
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  Speaker 1: Ashley Pilson, Oh, he just wanted to hang out with
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  Speaker 1: the family altogether. He's which doesn't mean that he doesn't
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  Speaker 1: want to hang out as a couple, but he was like,
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  Speaker 1: I never get to see your parents, so like I
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  Speaker 1: want to like hang out with the whole family, And
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  Speaker 1: it's like, what kind of man wants to hang out
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  Speaker 1: with his in laws. It's super super super sweet instead
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  Speaker 1: of going to Bush Gardens. Let's see, it is special
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  Speaker 1: and I feel like I have that relationship. I enjoy
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  Speaker 1: my in laws. Um, I don't see that changing. I
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  Speaker 1: know that people say like that could change over time.
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  Speaker 1: I just really enjoy being around them and they're really
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  Speaker 1: good to Jessica and I And I think she would
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  Speaker 1: feel the same way about my parents, but you'd have
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  Speaker 1: to ask her. But it is it is a specials
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  Speaker 1: a special thing when you're married and you enjoy your
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  Speaker 1: your partner's family. Because if that isn't the case, it
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  Speaker 1: gets really awkward, I would imagine, and really hard. I
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  Speaker 1: can't imagine. It must be awful, Yeah, really hard. It's
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  Speaker 1: very common, very common. In fact, a lot of people
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  Speaker 1: warned me of that before I got married, and I
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  Speaker 1: was like, yeah, I don't know if I'm going to
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  Speaker 1: have that issue, And in fact, I think it's gonna
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  Speaker 1: be the opposite. I think we're just gonna really enjoy
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  Speaker 1: our times together. Uh So, kudos and Jared for being
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  Speaker 1: a great husband but also just making the effort to
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  Speaker 1: spend time with your family. So we're here on a Tuesday,
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  Speaker 1: the day after The Bachelor aired. Uh, Ashley, we need
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  Speaker 1: to break down this episode today. I feel like this
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  Speaker 1: was a pivotal episode for the season. I feel like
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  Speaker 1: this is a big but I'll start out by saying
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  Speaker 1: as big of an episode as I think this will
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  Speaker 1: be as we move forward, I found myself not as
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  Speaker 1: engaged as maybe episode two. Uh. And let's talk about
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  Speaker 1: why coming up right here after the break all right,
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  Speaker 1: So Ashley, we're gonna start at the very beginning of
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  Speaker 1: this episode breaking down on, um, the major points that
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  Speaker 1: we feel like really should stand out. There's twenty one
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  Speaker 1: guys now at the start of this episode, both bachelorettes.
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  Speaker 1: You can tell are I guess I could tell or
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  Speaker 1: I felt like I could tell they are starting to
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  Speaker 1: get into rhythm of being the bachelorette. But this two
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  Speaker 1: bachelorette thing felt uh more awkward than ever on this episode. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I think we talked earlier this season about how there
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  Speaker 1: was going to be definitely a time where the guys
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  Speaker 1: were going to end up having the power and it
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  Speaker 1: was going to feel like a little awkward and it
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  Speaker 1: was going to feel like, oh, why do we do this?
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  Speaker 1: But I have to say that, like, now that this
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  Speaker 1: episode is over, now I think it should be smooth
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  Speaker 1: sailing as far as like it feeling like there are
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  Speaker 1: two separate seasons going on and there's not gonna be
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  Speaker 1: any overlap, or at least that's what our hope is.
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  Speaker 1: I think that was what the plan was. That was
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  Speaker 1: my question to you, was you feel like, if we
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  Speaker 1: go and we kind of jump to the end of
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  Speaker 1: the episode, do you feel like, now that it's over
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  Speaker 1: the rest of the season, this kind of dynamic of
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  Speaker 1: the men having like the control and also the ability
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  Speaker 1: to kind of be like, I don't know who I'm
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  Speaker 1: in too yet? Is that done? Like, do you you
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  Speaker 1: don't see that coming back right? M Yes, And now
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  Speaker 1: I think yeah, I think that was the intention. I
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  Speaker 1: think that's the hope. But I think it'll be kind
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  Speaker 1: of crazy that amongst those I think there's like nineteen guys.
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  Speaker 1: There was there a lesson there's definitely less than nineteen
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  Speaker 1: because I think I think Gab he said she has nine,
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  Speaker 1: and I think Rachel may have less. I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: Sorry about the math, guys, I'm not super good at that.
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  Speaker 1: But amongst the guys, I'm just gonna say, I think
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  Speaker 1: it would be strange if on this TV show there
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  Speaker 1: wasn't one that was like, you know what, I thought
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  Speaker 1: I liked her more, But the more I'm around the
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  Speaker 1: other one at group day, so or whatever, I'm sensing
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  Speaker 1: feelings for the other one. I feel like that could come.
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  Speaker 1: I could come. Well, we'll talk about the first example
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  Speaker 1: of that actually at the very end of our breakdown
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  Speaker 1: of this episode, because we're gonna bring that back up
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  Speaker 1: because it's it's a I think a funny moment. But
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  Speaker 1: let's start with Rachel's one on one date. This happened
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  Speaker 1: with Zach. Actually, if we can start with the judgment
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  Speaker 1: of the date, I would say I really enjoyed this date.
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  Speaker 1: In fact, I have to admit something to you. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I teared up for the first time on this watching
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  Speaker 1: The Bachelor Bachelorette, and probably three years now, it's not
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  Speaker 1: uncommon for me to tear up. I just thought if
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  Speaker 1: I was in this date, like if I was the
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  Speaker 1: lead or if I was a part of the date
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  Speaker 1: and this kind of date happened, it would be one
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  Speaker 1: of those pinch me moments. But it would also I
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  Speaker 1: would have been a bawling baby, Like it would have
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  Speaker 1: messed it like it touches every emotion and every sensitive
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  Speaker 1: p of my like being this whole day did I
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  Speaker 1: thought it was an incredible one on one. Yes, you
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  Speaker 1: said earlier you were like, I was kind of, um,
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  Speaker 1: not fully their attention wise, like it wasn't as compelling
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  Speaker 1: as the past couple upisodes. At the beginning of this
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  Speaker 1: day with Karamo, cool have Karamo there so standard, right,
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  Speaker 1: just like we're dressing up, we're like pretending like it's
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  Speaker 1: like a royalty type day, Like we're gonna be like
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  Speaker 1: Hollywood stars, Like, Okay, we've seen this sem times before. Um,
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  Speaker 1: this tells me nothing. When they're trying to close for
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  Speaker 1: each other, right, and then when they get into that
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  Speaker 1: theater and they're watching videos of each other as little kids,
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  Speaker 1: all of a sudden, all of my attention is zoomed
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  Speaker 1: on that screen and I am so feeling them. They
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  Speaker 1: have something there, and I'm really really excited for original
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  Speaker 1: and I'm really excited for him. Do you know what
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  Speaker 1: almost made me emotional? It wasn't him watching the video.
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  Speaker 1: It was him in his I t M s saying that,
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  Speaker 1: like there's something really serious here, like this might actually
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  Speaker 1: be Like at the first date with my wife, he
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  Speaker 1: seemed so convinced of it, and there was maybe I'm
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  Speaker 1: like looking way too far into this, Maybe I'm romanticizing
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  Speaker 1: it too much. But I almost feel like during that
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  Speaker 1: I team he was having this realization and he didn't
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  Speaker 1: expect to come on the show. I wouldn't feel that,
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  Speaker 1: and he was feeling it. Yeah, it's it's almost the
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  Speaker 1: and we we don't see it every season, so it
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  Speaker 1: is always a moment to to kind of point out.
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  Speaker 1: But it was almost that like maybe not love at
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  Speaker 1: first sight kind of thing, but it's it's like love
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  Speaker 1: at first time together moment where we're we'll walk away
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  Speaker 1: from this day and I'll say this, I don't know
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  Speaker 1: if we'll see Zack next week. We probably won't because
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  Speaker 1: he was such a big character during this episode. But
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  Speaker 1: his heart you have to like now remember as viewers
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  Speaker 1: where his heart stands, and his like authenticity on his
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  Speaker 1: love or his care or his his intrigue at Rachel.
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  Speaker 1: That's not going away. It's just gonna continue. And now
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  Speaker 1: he has to watch her go on other dates with
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  Speaker 1: other people and he feels very close to her, and
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  Speaker 1: so it's gonna be really interesting to see how he
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  Speaker 1: emotionally handles it. Some handle it well and some in
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  Speaker 1: the past to handle it really poorly and almost ruined
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  Speaker 1: it for themselves because they get so in their own head.
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  Speaker 1: M hmm. Now do you feel like, um it was
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  Speaker 1: you're waiting for him to say, my dad's gone. M hmm.
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  Speaker 1: Now they bonded over this dad moment the two of
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  Speaker 1: them where um they talked about how their dads would
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  Speaker 1: take them to like buy the airport and they'd watch
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  Speaker 1: the plans take off in land, and I thought that
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  Speaker 1: was really cool and really a bonding moment. They both
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  Speaker 1: were like astonished at the fact that they both grew
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  Speaker 1: up doing that. But like, we didn't get any backstory
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  Speaker 1: on his He's like, I'm really close to my and
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  Speaker 1: I just was waiting for a butt. Were you waiting
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  Speaker 1: for a But I was like, but what? And now
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  Speaker 1: I just want to see where your dad is. Like
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  Speaker 1: are we going to is there something like cut there
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  Speaker 1: so that we are very anxious to meet his dad
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  Speaker 1: when hometowns come and it's going to be like a
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  Speaker 1: great dad moment. Interesting. Yeah, I mean I don't think
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  Speaker 1: I did, because I was really really like feeling that day.
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  Speaker 1: I think I had like flashbacks to my time and
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  Speaker 1: just missing your friends and your family and and being
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  Speaker 1: able to relate a little bit. Um. You know, this
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  Speaker 1: show is so crazy and it's so ridiculous and it's
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  Speaker 1: so wild, but there are all those moments where every
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  Speaker 1: all of it kind of slows down and you feel um,
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  Speaker 1: you kind of feel normal again, And it doesn't doesn't
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  Speaker 1: happen very often when you're on the show. And then
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  Speaker 1: your family comes up on this video. And here's where
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  Speaker 1: my mind would have gone, because it happened with me,
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  Speaker 1: is like Rachel's parents and Zach's family had to send
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  Speaker 1: these pictures in and so in my mind, I'm sitting
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  Speaker 1: there going my my family knows that I'm gonna be
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  Speaker 1: watching this, and they put effort into making this happen
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  Speaker 1: because they care about this experience for me, and it
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  Speaker 1: would have just like overflowed with like gratitude and also
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  Speaker 1: just missing them not being able to talk to him,
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  Speaker 1: and so I I personally just was having a lot
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  Speaker 1: of like, man, I get it, like this is a
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  Speaker 1: really great day, but it's gonna be a really hard
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  Speaker 1: day to move on from for both of them, because
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  Speaker 1: not every day is going to feel like this. It's
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  Speaker 1: such a good point, and I want to elaborate on
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  Speaker 1: what you're saying about the family feel because I think
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  Speaker 1: a lot of people watching this and even maybe myself
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  Speaker 1: Initially I was thinking, Okay, they're old videos of us. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: it's your mom's like your mom called it, you know,
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  Speaker 1: she sent in a video of like a big deal
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  Speaker 1: you say, like last week. There is something like super
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  Speaker 1: emotional because you're so close off from your family and
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  Speaker 1: your experiencing something so emotional that normally your family would
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  Speaker 1: be involved in, and then all of a sudden they
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  Speaker 1: are involved in and it's a surprise. I remember my
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  Speaker 1: mom and dad had there their fort anniversary during No
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  Speaker 1: it couldn't possibly have been. It's like they're thirty fifth
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  Speaker 1: anniversary or something. When I was on the show, and um,
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  Speaker 1: they let me call them for like five minutes at
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  Speaker 1: the airport and I got back and I was like,
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  Speaker 1: They're like, where'd you go? And I was like, I
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  Speaker 1: got I got to come in love and dad, and
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  Speaker 1: what else would you cry about getting to call your
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  Speaker 1: mom and dad? It happens. I mean, you know, people
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  Speaker 1: might remember during my season my dad had you know,
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  Speaker 1: open heart surgery, like a week and a half before
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  Speaker 1: my season started, and it never really was brought up
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  Speaker 1: too much during the season, which is good. I didn't
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  Speaker 1: like it wasn't and it didn't need to be a storyline,
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  Speaker 1: but you leave your your family in the hospital and
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  Speaker 1: you go on the show where you're cut off. Now,
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  Speaker 1: I did get to call them once a week, I
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  Speaker 1: kind of and then one of the producers had direct
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  Speaker 1: access to him, so she could text and be like, hey,
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  Speaker 1: how you feeling and he would send her a text
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  Speaker 1: and so at least new But it's hard. It's hard
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  Speaker 1: when you go away. So hey, just remember that as
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  Speaker 1: you watch these dates, everybody because that these people are
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  Speaker 1: cut off in their family. Okay, So during this date Ashley,
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  Speaker 1: there is a kind of a segment that goes back
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  Speaker 1: to the house. Gabby goes to see the guys. I
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  Speaker 1: felt like this didn't fit with the the episode to me, um,
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  Speaker 1: let me explain why in there, so we go for it. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you can tell this is where my mind went. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: So we watch this moment and we see what we
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  Speaker 1: see every season where the lead is wondering if any
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  Speaker 1: of these contestants are actually interested in them, very human emotion,
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  Speaker 1: very human feeling where we don't want or maybe we're
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  Speaker 1: on a date and we feel like, how are we
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  Speaker 1: going to keep these this person interested in me? Or
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  Speaker 1: am I enough of a human whatever? That means to
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  Speaker 1: be the lead of this season. So Gabby's questioning that
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  Speaker 1: the guys are kind of throwing the football around. It
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  Speaker 1: doesn't like they're paying attention to her. But as this
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  Speaker 1: episode progresses and as we see the interest in Gabby,
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  Speaker 1: I would be shocked if not one of these dudes
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  Speaker 1: was like flirting with her or like talking to her.
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  Speaker 1: I think it was cut to make it look like
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  Speaker 1: nobody was interested in her. I just I'm shocked now
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  Speaker 1: because at the end of the episode we see so
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  Speaker 1: many people interested in Gabby. Oh that's so true. Oh
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  Speaker 1: I didn't think about it like that. But it's definitely
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  Speaker 1: supposed to be like the scenes setter. You're supposed to
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  Speaker 1: start thinking like, oh maybe, okay, well, one, let's see
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  Speaker 1: Gabby's insecurities come out. Let's start to see them crawl
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  Speaker 1: out slowly. And then secondly, like, is this division of
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  Speaker 1: the guys showing interest in one over the other about
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  Speaker 1: to happen? So I think it's just a scene setter.
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  Speaker 1: I wonder if that was that was the moment that
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  Speaker 1: really did make her emotional. Also, like, remember crystals just
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  Speaker 1: to pop in during the day and I wasn't prepared
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  Speaker 1: for it. I was like, excuse me, I'm just gonna
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  Speaker 1: sit over here because like my emotions and like my
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  Speaker 1: brain weren't ready for this. I have no idea what
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna say. I don't look right, and I think
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  Speaker 1: it's just like maybe she's overthinking it a little bit
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  Speaker 1: in that moment. That's fair. I mean, it's is intimidating
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  Speaker 1: to be at the house. Intimidating exactly. You just need
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  Speaker 1: to know. And it turns into their house. I know
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  Speaker 1: it is the bachelor mansion, and the leads come in
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  Speaker 1: and out, but after a few days that becomes like
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  Speaker 1: what who if it's the bachelorette, and then it's the guys.
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  Speaker 1: If the bachelor's of girls, it becomes like the feeling
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  Speaker 1: of this is our house. So she's like in their house,
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  Speaker 1: not really always, you know, she probably feels like a guest,
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  Speaker 1: and guests need to have a lot of like hospitality
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  Speaker 1: given to them, and these guys may be more prepared
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  Speaker 1: to do that. They were just more down there, like hey,
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  Speaker 1: it's a group day or it's a one on one day.
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  Speaker 1: Time for the guys to throw the football and jump
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  Speaker 1: with the pool. Well, I don't want to give the
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  Speaker 1: I's too much credit in this moment. I certainly don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I get it, but like, yeah, if they were told
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  Speaker 1: a couple of hours earlier, you know, Gabby's coming this afternoon,
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  Speaker 1: they would have had things planned, Like I bet you
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  Speaker 1: guys would have been in the kitchen trying to show
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  Speaker 1: off cooking skills. They would have been coming up with games.
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  Speaker 1: I really do think there's a lot of intimidation factor.
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  Speaker 1: But then again, sure get mad at me if I
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: am giving them too much credit. I might be. Yeah,
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: there's an intimidation factor, but they've been doing push ups
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: getting their muscle swoll okay slow. You know, Rachel and
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: Zack's date goes really well. This is a couple to watch.
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: As we mentioned a second ago, we feel like both
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: of them have strong feelings and Zach seemed very very
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: engaged in his emotions. Uh for Rachel after this date,
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: which makes us go on now to Gabby's one on
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: one date. Uh. One of our past guests on this podcast,
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: Grandpa John, you go back and listen to it. It's
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: a great podcast. I mean, the audio is not awesome
• 17:59
  Speaker 1: because to call in from his bridge game that he
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: made him get up from to actually be a part
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: of the podcast. But he is an incredible guest in
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: the podcast, so go back and listen to that now
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: that you've seen him on this season, Grandpa John's out
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: for Gabby's one on one day. I my first thoughts
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: here this Grandpa John is incredible. He is uh he
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: is Golden television. I hope we see more of him.
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: But how awkward would it be for both Gabby and
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: Eric to have the grandpa on your first one on
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: one date sitting in the back seat knowing you're sharing
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: this date alongside of him. I think you get used
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: to it. But I did it with Kevin Hart and
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: ice Cube. Remember that, Like that was so intimiding. I
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: have Kevin. I am driving in a like nineteen like
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: seventies Mustang around Los Angeles with Kevin Hart and ice
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: Cube in my back seat. The date is the last
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: thing you're thinking of. You're definitely trying to think in
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: that moment how to impress used too, and Kevin Hart like,
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: WHOA you got eight listeners in your car? I got,
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: I got, I got the A list of the A
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: list in my car and we had to get in
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: a hot tub then all of us afterwards. It was
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: the weird, Like, looking back, that might be the weirdest
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: day of my life. Um, just that I did that.
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: But anyways, so Gabby has her grandpa Ashley. Would you
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: feel like this was awkward or would this just be
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: a lot of fun? I'm thinking for Eric, this is
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: so awkward and he's not really even hiding it. His
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: facial expression is not really like he's not thrilled. And
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: that's okay. It's so understandable because in that moment, not
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: only does he have to feel like he has to
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: have his personality ready to go for Gabby, he also
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: has to have like his personality attuned to impressing Grandpa too.
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: And those are two kind of like light switches in
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: our heads, because you know, we have that personality that
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: we kind of that that best self, you know, you
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: know how you have I saw seem like we all
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: have like multiple personalities. But that's what I mean. But
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean, like when you're going to
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: go meet the parents, put a different self forward, when
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: you're about to go floor on the first date, a
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: different self. So now he has to mitigate between both
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: of these and it's very very hard. It is hard,
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: and it's hard, you know, sometimes on this show, especially
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: on the first date when you've met known the person
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: for a few days. The way to kind of fill
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: in awkward silence when you're not comfortable being quiet next
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: to each other is kissing just happens? How are you
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: going to be like kissing while Grandpa John's in there.
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: I don't think Grandpa John would have a problem with
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: it now that we know him, but it would be weird. Well,
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: the day is a normal bachelorette and bachelor type date.
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: They go a little bit like a mosaic date. We
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: have shown bath and then we have bowling. Yeah, that
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: was but like I felt like the sound bath was
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: a normal date, right every season we see some type
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: of meditation or we see some type of uh like
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: getting in tune with yourself spiritually exactly type of day.
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: This was that date. We'll probably see a few more
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: of those this season. Um, I'm guessing because they seem
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: to like to repeat some of the dates right now.
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: But then we see bowling where Gabby finds uh an
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: incredible woman for Grandpa John. But I don't feel like
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: we got enough of that date, Like I want to
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: see her, and of course you wanted to see the
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: old people date. I wanted to see I wanted to
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: see him dad. I wanted to see him talk. I
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: want to see him flirt. I wanted to hear what
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: they talk about when they're like introducing themselves to each other.
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: That that felt like a missed segment to me. Maybe
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: they had so much that they didn't need it, but
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: that would have been How fun would that have been?
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: I still I think Grandpa John is open to love.
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: I don't think he's your lead to this show. I
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: think he's still wearing his wedding ring after years after
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: his wife passed. I think this man is is a
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: one lady man and everything else is just for fun
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: and flirts just for flirts. Well, and that's just that's sweet.
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: I'd like to see him flirting. Um, but uh, that
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: was it was a fun day. It was a good
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: one on one. I'm glad Grandpa John was able to
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: be around. I hope. Um. That was something that was
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: encouraging for Gabby, especially when she had a tough week.
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: It seemed like for the last movie week, a week
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: of filming, he's sprad though, Like he has a thirty
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: year old granddaughter and he's like boom, you know, he
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: is energetic, he's all with it. I mean, I think
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: he's probably young, right, he's like, well quote quote young
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: for grandpa a thirty year old, Like I'm thirty four
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: and my only living grandparents is nine not yeah, yeah,
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: he's note. I bet he's in his seventies or so.
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: He has the best quote of the episode. To me, Uh,
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: it starts out very powerful, and it made me stop
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: and think. He said this. He said today was a
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: good day. He said new experiences are always fun when
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: you get to my age. That's what he said. So
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: new experiences, no matter what they are, when you do
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: something for the first time, when you are in your
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: seventies or sixties or however old he is, are always fun.
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: And I think that was such a good perspective. He
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: just enjoyed that day with his granddaughter. But then he goes,
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: where's my beer? Like I was like, this man knows
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: what he's doing for TV. He's that's just made for TV.
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: He knows exactly the lines to say, and I do
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: not think they're fed to him at all. Back to
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: Gab Gab and Eric her on this date. Gaby opens
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: up to Eric about her her mother and how once
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: Gabby kind of moved out of the house. I think
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: it was her words. She said her mom kind of
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: wiped her hands clean or washed her hands clean of
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: that relationship. Eric and Gabby since the beginning, really since
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: we first saw them, it feels like they have a
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: great connection. I don't know how deep it is yet,
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: but it does feel like a great connection. In fact,
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: Gabby even and if I'm remembering what she says right,
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: she said she's in she's the imperfect bachelor atte but
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: in some people's eyes, it will be perfect. She also
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: says she would be Oh, it's incredible. She said she
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: would give anything to be loved by someone like Eric,
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: A very powerful statement um for her to say. I
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: think it points to where she feels about herself. But
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: I also feel like she is still in this place
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: where she doesn't feel good enough, which is you know
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: that impostor syndrome as the bachelor or bachelor is very real.
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: I'm hoping that we see Gabby on this because she
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: is worthy of that, but I also don't want her
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: to feel like she is not in control of this
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: and that these guys aren't there because they feel lucky
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: to be loved by someone like her. When I say
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: I don't like this, I don't mean like I don't
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: like her. She's like, I don't like that. She says
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: that because I don't like the way. That's how she
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: feels about herselfs she should be like I, Um, you know,
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: like I, he would be lucky to be with me.
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: I want her to feel that. I want her to
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: feel like she is super worthy of her perfect match,
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: not just some guy she's been on a date with.
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: This is so so sad. And I feel like you
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: could speak to it because you were you feel like
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: you were unlovable. And I mean that I was just
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: thinking about this as I watched the episode. You know
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: I did feel that way. Uh. And that's as we've
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: said here, and you know that's this is not always
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: easy for me to say, but like I still struggle
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: with that, Like Jessica knows that I struggle with that. Um.
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: At times. Now it's a lot better because I have
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: a wife that loves me really well. UM, so it's
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: not like this hunting Oh my gosh, nobody's gonna love
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: me feeling anymore. But at times I feel unworthy of
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: her love. And during the season when I was doing it.
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: I did have that in the back of my mind.
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: You almost felt like I almost felt like I at
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: times had to put on a front so that these
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: one would stay interest in me, because if they got
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: to know me, they would not like me. I don't
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: know if that was true or not, um because you know,
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: you don't get a second chance at it. But then,
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: obviously how my season played out and how life played out,
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: there was another moment in my life where I went, oh,
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: my gosh, like I am that guy. The more somebody
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: gets to know me, the less they like me and
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: they don't want to be with me. I will say
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: this as I've worked through therapy personally, and as I
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: know many people feel this way. I am a lot
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: healthier for human when I don't let those thoughts become
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: truce in my head. And that's what I don't want
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: Gabby to feel, because I know how you can feel
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: that during this It's so you're You're a normal human
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: who probably have struggled to get people interested in you,
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: and you've gone on great dates, you've gone on bad dates,
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: and then you're all of a sudden the lead of
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: the show where you have you know, at this point
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: still twenty one people looking to find love with you,
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: and you're like this, it can't be real. This is
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: all fake, This is all not true to me. Uh.
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: But the truth is, like Gabby is worthy of that moment.
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: She deserves to be in this place, and I hope
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: at some point she can start to have the confidence that, no,
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: these guys are gonna be lucky to be with me.
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: I know, me too, me too. She definitely acknowledges that
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: she has, you know, abandonment issues because of this, I
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: just cannot but like it's a it's a matter of
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: like acknowledging him versus believing that you're worthy at the
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: same time, do you know what I mean? Like it
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: seems like she still has a big, big step to take.
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: I I feel just like so bad hearing the story
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: of her mother, Like she doesn't know the love of
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: a mother. She's a strange from her mom, just like
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: kind of like let that sink in. It's just something
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: that like it's so like I can't conceptualize it, and
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: I can't imagine the pain that comes with it and
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: how it must play a role in her finding love
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: God for her grandpa, yea, her dad, Because she's really
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: really tight with her dad. Um, alright, so but yeah,
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: I just felt so so sad. It's one of those
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: moments that were like grabbed my attention when she said
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: like I would only I could, if I could only,
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: or like I hope to be um love to buy
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: a man like Eric, and I'm like a girl I
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: don't like, I don't know Eric very well, but I
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: feel like I'm getting to know you pretty well and like,
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: let's see if Eric deserves you or like because because
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: because just an observing yeah, you seem like way cooler
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: than Eric, Like I want to be with you more
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: than I want to be with Eric. Oh. I think
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: a lot of people are falling in love with the
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: two Bachelor as both of them uniquely. Uh. Actually, as
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: we as we move forward here, then um, we leave
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: this one on one date where Eric does get a
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: rose not shockingly to a group date, the biggest group
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: date and Bachelor Nation history. Oh, I just thought it
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: one more thing I'd love to talk about the way
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: that she just went onto his lap. Oh yeah, she
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: said the same thing my wife says to me is
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: if I get here, I just feel like I can
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: get closer to you. Jessica's always says, I just want
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: to get in your pocket. That's so she always tells me.
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: It's like, well, I don't think that's possible, but but
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: it's very cute. It was so so sweet it is.
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: That's a good moment. Yeah, and she felt comfortable enough
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: to do that. I think that's a like, that is
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: a comfort when you can sit on somebody's laugh and
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: you're just like, I just like being close to you. Uh.
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: It makes me feel very loved. Yeah, it makes me
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: feel very loved when my when my wife does that
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: and like, wow, you like me enough where you just
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: want to be so close to me. Um, it's so nice,
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: it is. It's a very intimate, good good point. Okay,
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: So then we go to this nineteen nineteen uh, contestants
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: too on to lead group day. It's the biggest in
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: Bachelor Nation history. This is where everything starts to fall apart.
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: I don't think we need to focus much on the
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: photo shoot because we've seen a photo shooting now for
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: every season. I will see tire the photographer. Forget his name.
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: Let's retire him. He's done a great job, he deserves
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: a break. Let's let's say we'll move on from him. Now, Uh,
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: this is no longer interesting to me. I used to be,
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: And I know it's hard. Let's give the show the
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: benefit of the doubt. Um, it's hard to come up
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: with a new date every season. But it used to
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: be where, maybe five years ago, I would watch the
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: episodes excited for what the date producers could come up with,
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: like what new things we're gonna be done? And also
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: I started to take some of their ideas and implement
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: them into my dating life, like some of the cool
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: things they would do. Now I mean so far, Uh,
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: we've just kind of see dates repeat like over and
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: over again, season by season, maybe in a different way,
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: but I they just the content of the date. It's
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: not fun for me anymore. It's now the after the date,
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: which really brings out kind of the intrigue. So we
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: do move on to Sofi Stadium. We're gabbing, Rachel are
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: hosting the men of this season. Uh, they sit down
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: and talk to him, and this is, like I said,
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: I feel like where this episode takes a turn. Um,
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: we start to have conversations had with Gabby, especially Rachel's
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: having a great time. She's talking to everybody that they're
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: in the football they're hanging out. Well, Gabby seems to
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: have a wave of rejection coming her way this during
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: the state and it it messes with her. Let's start
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: Ashley talking about Hayden's conversation. I feel like that was
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: the one that really stood out to Gabby and kind
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: of rocked her. He said the words that she's rough
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: around the edges. Now what he meant by that, I
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: don't fully know, but he said that in the midst
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: of kind of breaking up with her or moving on
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: to Rachel Ashley when he said those words, did it
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: shock you? Did it throw you back? Did you go,
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: oh my gosh, this is one of those moments, uh
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: that is so despicable? Or were you more in a
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: in a different place kind of viewing it? As he
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: just didn't know what to say in that moment. He
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: didn't know what to say in that moment. He had
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: no idea like one. He was nervous, I'm sure. And
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: he also what he meant was that, like, I don't
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: I don't think that this. I think there's a difference
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: student rough around the edges and edgy, Like she's the
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: edgier one, you know, which means like she's kind of
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: like the cool one, right, she's she's a little bit spicier. Yeah,
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: Like there's sugar and sugar and sweet, right, or there's
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: sugar and sweet though there's like sugar and spicy. Rachel
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: is sugar, right, and then and then Gabby is spicy.
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: I would agree. I don't think it came out right.
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: When I watched, I was like, oh, that's not the
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: thing to say, Like you can't tell somebody she's rough
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: around the edges. I do, though, feel like the edgy side,
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: like edgy would almost be a compliment to me, because
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: everybody called me so Yeah, everybody's called me so boring
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: for so long that I think if somebody was like, man,
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: you're kind of edgy, I'd be like, yes, yes, I
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: am it. It's like you're not a vanilla sure like
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: Rocky Road, I'm edgy. I think I would take it
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: as a compliment. I feel like most would if given
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: the right context. This came out wrong. It also came
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: out wrong at the wrong time because Gabby was already
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: questioning kind of her role here and if people be
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: interested her. Then we have Jacob show up and he
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: breaks the news to Gabby that he is into Rachel now,
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: I don't know if either of them really had much
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: of a husband idea of Jacob. I mean, he had
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: worn a leaf at the beginning of this episode, and
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: he also showed up on a horse, uh you know,
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: bare back, well not bare back that's different, but without
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: a shirt on at the beginning of this season. But
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: I do think it was one more example where Gabby
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: just started to feel like, my goodness, like, are any
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: of these dudes actually into me? Are any of these
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: guys actually interested in who I am? And I do
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: think she started to question it, which is very real. Yeah,
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: and I didn't step back to really look at who
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: was on this day at versus who was left at home,
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: But it bet you that if she like really did
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: step back and she was like, oh, but these guys
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: are waiting for me at home, and I know that
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: I have a future with them, like I want to
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: pursue them. Because at least she could look at these
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: three guys and she was probably like, I wasn't gonna
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: take any of them seriously, I didn't really care about
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: any of them. But the rejection hurts, regardless of it's
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: somebody that you care about or not. Sometimes the rejection
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: made her even more if it's somebody you don't care about,
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: because you're like, I'm not even impressing you. Yeah, that's true.
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: I had somebody go home during my season. I remember
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: somebody I was interested in but did not feel like
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: there was a great connection with. And it does rock
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: your world because you're like, wait, people, people are gonna
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: go home because they're not interested in me. Like you,
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: as soon as you start to feel like the lead,
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: the show is a great way of always humbling you,
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: to make you question if you really belong there or not. Uh.
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: And I think that you. I didn't think you were
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: worthy of How are you not interesting me? Come on?
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: Like you're the one person here that like I always thought. Yeah,
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: like you'd be lucky to find something like me. Um,
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna go quiet, Dawson. I'm sure you can hear him. No,
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: you can't. You can't know you're good. Uh. Okay, So
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: Gabby's questioning things. It leads to Rachel giving out her rose,
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: but Gabby not giving out a rose. Uh. The two
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: bachelorettes speak, then Gabby shares with Rachel kind of what
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: happened that evening. Rachel is immediately in a place of defense,
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: saying Gabby, what do you want me to do. I'll
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: talk to these guys, I'll call him out, We'll do
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: whatever this. I think it was a turning point where
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: they decide, Hey, something needs to change, like, no longer
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: can we date these guys at one time. We can't
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: allow them the position where they can choose who they
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: want to be with. Uh. And so they discuss, which
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: we hear from Jesse Palmer that the cocktail party was
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: gonna be canceled and that instead the two Roses or
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: the two leads are going to give out individual roses
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: to the guys that are now going to pursue them
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: alone for the rest of the season. I think this
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: was a great move. I don't know how it's going
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: to play out, but I think it was necessary given
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: what had happened so far this season. It it was
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: a rough ending to this episode because I did feel
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: like once again, the guys kind of had for the
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: last I hope it's the last episode, but they had
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: control and they could decide. However, Ashley, none of the
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: guys that took control and said no to a rose, Sorry,
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: I'm more interested in another person actually got a rose.
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: It was a secret between them were like, if one
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: of these guys crosses us, they're gone to go back
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: to the Jesse conversation. Yeah, when he comes out and
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: says that, you're like, Okay, this is a great move,
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: great move, and then you see it actually unfolding and
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: you're like, oh, look, so we really gave them the
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: power and they the girls admit that they're like, oh god,
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: this is exactly how it was supposed to not work out.
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: I just don't know if they hadn't any other option.
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: It's kind of one of those you either take the
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: the best worst option and do it and know that
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: the rest of the season will be better. Um, here's
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: one person out of all the guys that kind of
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: said no to the Rose that I feel like needed
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: another shot was Tremaine. I thought Tremaine had like very
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: much done this thing well and had tried his best
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: to pursue the women, and he was interested in Gabby
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: said no to Rachel's Rose. He is the one person
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: here that I'm like, man, he could possibly like he
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: should get an other shot. Okay, I get that. I
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: wasn't like invested or really even thought of him beforehand.
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: Two things I really hated about this scene. One, it
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: was public, which is what um Rachel was saying to Gabby.
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: She was like, you were rejected, yes, and I feel yeah,
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: but this is on display in front of everybody. This
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: is far your more humiliating. I agree with her there.
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: I'd much prefer to experience what Rachel Gabby had gone
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: through the night before then what Rachel was experiencing. Secondly,
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: it was the first time the show felt like an
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: actual game show, like a game show for love, when
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: Jesse would come in and take away a rose from
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: Rachel when um it was rejected. Oh yeah, so that's
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: a good point. That felt Yeah, I get that. That
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: did feel weird, manut it necessarily have the words to
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: say why. But you're right, it felt kind of like
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: a game show, right, like, sorry, you lost your chance,
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: try again until you win. Yeah. Uh so, weird scenes
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: and not enough a fan of the whole thing. It
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: was definitely an a dig I'm just hoping that, like
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: like we said earlier in the show, this is the
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: time where it gets awkward, we did end up giving
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: the girl some power and and then going forward there
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: will be none. Yeah, there'll be none. This is this
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: gets better. The groups are smaller. I mean, if you're
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: on either side, you're now in the top ten. You're
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: three weeks in, you're in the top ten. If you're
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: on Rachel's team, you're in the top like seven or six. Uh,
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: if you're on Gabby's team, you're in the top nine.
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: That's pretty crazy to think about because there's gonna be
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: less rejections each week, maybe one person from each side. Uh,
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: it's gonna even out at some point, So maybe Gabby
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: has to get rid of two people at some point,
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: Rachel rid of one or maybe none. So that's interesting
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: to me, uh, to see how they're going to do that.
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: You know, hometowns are still many weeks away. They haven't
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: traveled internationally yet, and so you know, hometowns are gonna
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: be what now with two each or is it gonna
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: be four on both sides. If it's four, then there's
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: just two people that are in it cut from Rachel's
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: side before hometowns. Um, that's wild. I don't think it's
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: gonna be four, but it's less than that, because that's
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: a Yeah, that's wild. That'd be a crazy episode. But
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: it's already obvious. I think it's going to hometowns to
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: me with Rachel. Okay, so in a second, let's get
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: into that, because that's a great ending here. Uh I
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: just want to we promised we would talk about the
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: one person who tried to come back. That's Meatball. We
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: see in the kind of the bloopers at the end
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: of the episode where he goes, you know what, Rachel,
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: I've made a mistake. You know what I was thinking,
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: And I was about to go home here, but I
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: actually I'm into you, Like do you think they don't
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: tell us what happens? But it's hilarious because you know
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: one his name's Meatball, and I can't imagine however you
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: would call a guy meat Ball. And then at the
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: end of this be like introducing him to your parents,
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: be like we call him Meatball. His name, I don't
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: even know his real name at this point. Uh So
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: Meatball tries. I don't see it working out for him.
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: I don't think he's going to get a second shot.
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: We need to see this reaction. And I want Rachel
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: to not be Rachel, sweet, sweet Rachel. I want her
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: to be like, dude, come on, yeah, like make it funny,
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: because she said to him already I gave I gave
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: you a rose, so and you said no to me,
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: So now you want a second chance, like I don't know,
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: probably like ten hours later because this re assureman he
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: had to take forever. But funny episode or funny ending. Okay,
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: So Ashley spent a few minutes here. Who do you think, Uh,
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: let's go on both sides. Who do you think are
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: like shoeings now for hometown or maybe we should say it?
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: Who do you feel like we should really keep an
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: eye out for? So Eric and um, it's obviously going
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: to be Eric and um Nate for Gabby. I know
• 43:12
  Speaker 1: that loaves us too big spots, but then I think
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: that there will be Tino zach Avan and there's one
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: other guy for am I who am I missing? It's
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: obvious for Rachel or is there really an open spot?
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: I think it's open. I would agree with you on
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: everybody there that I'm like, yeah, you have to watch
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: out for this. Um both seem at least at this
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: point this season, it seems pretty clear who are who
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: both Rachel and Gabri are most interested in h and
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: also just maybe who have they have the best connections with?
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: It feels like, you know this is only week three.
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: This happened quicker than usual, maybe because the groups are
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: now smaller, but it's very clear. Yeah, I love it.
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: Fair we get to see their storylines now play out
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: for seven more weeks. Uh? Did we get to see
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: the relationships build and flow? I don't know how I
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: feel about Logan. Logan to be another one that i'd
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: throw in there. I don't know what his connection is yet,
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: but he is one to keep an eye out for. Yeah.
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: Oh and then like it seems like Johnny could be
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: a favorite of of Gabby's too. We'll see. But I
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: love the fact that we have now narrowed it down
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: by week three, two people that we were actually serious about.
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: So we're going to really see relationships. And I think
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: this is what the audience has been asking for and
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: I'm so excited. So to close out your thoughts, there's
• 44:39
  Speaker 1: one person here that you did not mention on either side. Mario.
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah Mario? What happened? Did he get eliminated? No? Mario
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: is still there? Do you okay? Yeah? Do you feel
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: like he is now? Maybe you know, he got the
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: first pressure of so we just haven't seen much of him,
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: which happens often. But do you still feel like he's
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: in the mix. No, I don't think he is. It's
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: interesting because he did get the first going into that
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: road ceremony. I go, oh, this is my head. I
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: wonder who Mario is going to get on, which team
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: he's going to get on? And then I didn't even
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: remember when he was quote drafted, quote drafted. You know
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: what I mean? Well, Ashley, that's the breakdown of this episode.
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: Now we have Bachelor headlines. We have a few of
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: them to celebrate and also talked through. Let's start with
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: this one. I want to celebrate here Bachelor Nations. Emily
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: Ferguson marries William Carlson officially Mr and Mrs Carlson. They
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: say this. According to people, Haley got married at the
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: exact same place as Emily did in Vegas. Uh. She
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: Emily married William Carlson. He is on the Las Vegas Nights.
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: Have been together for like four years. They said their
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: vows on a on the rose rooftop with the views
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: of the strip, and um they had they were escorted
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: by the Knight's official drum line into the party. It's
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: pretty cool. That's super cool. Another interesting romance to consider,
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: love is blind. Natalie Lee raises eyebrows on trip with
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: Bachelor Nations. Blake Moy's is according to E so they
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: just did a few pictures on on a recent trip
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: in the Caribbean. Natalie posted to inso story. Uh they
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: are posing on the beach together. Uh. There is a
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: sunset clip with the overlay that says the crossover. Nobody
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: asked for what? So who knows that they're dating? There's
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: a video of what seems like a breakfast date. But
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: I guess stay tuned. We have no confirmation, but it
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: definitely seems like a thing. There you go. Well, speaking
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: of things, we promised that we talk about it, and
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: so we're going to here's the update Bachelor Bachelorettes. Nate
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: moves to Los Angeles after Michelle Young's blit and he
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: says he's not dating DeAndre Canoe. Okay, well, he moved
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: to l A two weeks ago. It's something that's been
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: the back of his mind for some time. Nate wants
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: to get into modeling. He's still doing tech sales, so
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: modeling would be more of a hobby. He's enjoying the summer,
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: getting to spend time with family and friends and getting
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: situated in l A. And he'll be doing more traveling,
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: like to Cancoon in August. This is what a source says.
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: Super interesting because we all know that Michelle wanted to
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: say in Minnesota wondering if him wanting to move to
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: l A was a thing. Well, we just have a
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: few more to break down today. Uh, the air day
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: of Bachelor Nations Celebrity Family Feud episode revealed. Um, this
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: is a fun this is always a fun thing to do.
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: It feels like a lot of the people that are
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: a part of their kind of podcast network were invited
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: and then some recent people from Bachelor in Paradise. Actually,
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: what do we know? We know that Joe, Serena, Kenny,
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: Marie Thomas, Becket kouffriend Michelle, Oh my gosh, Nate's is
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: this tape earlier? Mike Johnson and Rodney will all be
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: in an episode that was taped back in March and
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: it's going to be airing on Sunday, August seven at
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: eight o'clock on ABC. Well, the Bachelor host Jesse Palmer
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: and wife Emily Fardo have second wedding in France. Is
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: according to e t If you guys don't know Jesse,
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: what has been married for over a year now. Um,
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: but they had a wedding um last week, like a
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: formal wedding because the other one was more of like
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: an officiating you know, like it's like a sign the
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: paperwork type thing. And they got married in chateau, a
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: beautiful chateau. I don't don't get a bunch of the
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: name Chateau de la Naudi. I know, why did I
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: even try that? That was pretty? But this is what
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: Jesse said. After canceling our wedding twice due to COVID
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: and then eloping in Connecticut, Emily and I finally tied
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: the knot again in front of our immediate families in Province, France.
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: Everything was perfect and it's been the day that we've
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: been envisioned, envisioning for the past three years. Such a
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: magical day full of love tears. Maybe I cried a
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: lot um and gratitude. It took longer to get here
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: than expected, but we made it. You guys can check
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: out the instagrams online. They are amazing, so so cool
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: to like see the Bachelor host and get married in
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: the midst of the season. It just feels like ultra romantic. Yeah,
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: it seems like a romantic wedding. Well, the Bachelor. It's
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: Jed Wyatt. Do you remember him? Is engaged to girlfriend
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: Ellen Decker. The greatest joy of my life, Yeah, he
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: says in an Instagram Ellen, you are the greatest joy
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: of my life. Getting to spend so much time with
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: you has taught me so m Above all, our ability
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: to work through difficult situations has been very impressive. We
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: never turn and run on each other. We face life
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: head on and figure it out. We had people doubt
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: us and we would laugh. We had days where we
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: drove each other nuts and we would always come back
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: to resolve. We're rooted in a love deeper than anything
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: I could have prayed for. They've been dating for three
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: years and they got engaged on July in Franklin, Tennessee. Hey,
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: that's where I got engaged Franklin. Yeah, that's so crazy.
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: That's so crazy. Uh. This just brings up because anytime
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: you think Jed y, you obviously have to think Hannah Brown.
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: Is it like, is that the thing where Hannah Brown's
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: brother is dating Jed's X. Yeah? There aren't they engaged.
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: They're engaged. I wonder if, like where that relationship stands.
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: I wonder how that's doing. We'll have to inquire. We'll
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: have to look into that a little bit. Hey, that's
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: all the headlines we have for you today. It's been
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: a great episode. Thanks for joining us for another breakdown
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: of the Bachelorette. This has been episode three of the season.
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: So we'll be back next week breaking down more. In fact, Ashley,
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: uh will be going to Tahoe this next week. I'll
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: be there with my wife Jessica. Yes, we will be there. Okay, Okay,
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: we'll be working very hard. We'll be together. Um. Doing
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: this podcast is gonna be a lot of fun. Can't
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: wait to get to Tahoe. Can't wait to get on
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: a trip with my wife and see you in person.
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: It's been too long, Ashley. So until then, I've been been.
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: I've been Ashley. See you guys. Thank you so much
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: for listening. Follow the Benn and Ashley I Almost Famous
• 51:43
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