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Dr. Kroupa's Natural Health Hours 10-1-25 with Doc, Suzi, Bill and Producer Steve. · Dave Kroupa (DOC)'s show

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  Speaker 1: Thank you? That was our audience, and they've been drinking
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  Speaker 1: a little early. Welcome everybody to doctor Cooper's Natural Health Hours.
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  Speaker 1: It is October first. The cold front is blowing through
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  Speaker 1: for a few minutes. We've got Susie Bill, producer Steve
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  Speaker 1: behind the curtain all here tonight, and we got a
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  Speaker 1: a lot of people are in mourning. But anyway, Susie
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  Speaker 1: and Bill say hello if you'd like to.
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  Speaker 4: Susie heeding, everyone, thanks for joining us.
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  Speaker 1: Coops all right, and producer Steve You're welcome to jump
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  Speaker 1: in anytime you ever lock But he's pretty busy back
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  Speaker 1: there behind curtain. I was thinking tonight they keep saying
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  Speaker 1: sorrows a lot. That would not surprise me one minute.
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  Speaker 1: A lot of other people come to mind, but sorrows
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  Speaker 1: all of his money. That would tell you real quick.
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  Speaker 1: But I think they can interview people and find out
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  Speaker 1: the truth and that might change things just a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: Tonight we're gonna touch on kind of the baby thing,
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  Speaker 1: and a lot of people say baby thing. Well, the
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  Speaker 1: reason that came up is if you're married or not
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  Speaker 1: and your wife or girlfriend or whatever she is, is
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  Speaker 1: pregnant and they have a rough time. Guess who's going
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  Speaker 1: to have a rough time with them, So there are
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  Speaker 1: some things when they want to get pregnant that can
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  Speaker 1: make it so much smoother and easier. While they're pregnant,
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  Speaker 1: we can take care of a lot of issues that
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  Speaker 1: normally make pregnancy rough and even having the baby. There
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  Speaker 1: are a couple of tips that I learned from a
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  Speaker 1: female doctor twenty six twenty seven years ago, and she
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  Speaker 1: knew her stuff and she did what she talked about.
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  Speaker 1: So we're going to cover prenatal what you need if
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  Speaker 1: you want to get pregnant, helping both the husband and
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  Speaker 1: the wife. And you know, I've been really lucky too.
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  Speaker 1: Over the years. I've had a few people come to
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  Speaker 1: me who wanted to get pregnant and they had tried everything,
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  Speaker 1: and a lot of times it was just a simple
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  Speaker 1: hormonal imbalance and they didn't have a lot of good
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  Speaker 1: nutrition in their diet. They were trying to but a
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  Speaker 1: lot of the food just was lacking. So I was
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  Speaker 1: blessed with an opportunity to help. And each one that
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  Speaker 1: came to me got pregnant, so that was pretty cool.
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  Speaker 1: They were very happy, And like I said, we treated
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  Speaker 1: the dad and the mom, not just one. Now, when
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  Speaker 1: mom wants to get pregnant, and dad wants mom to
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  Speaker 1: get pregnant and they're not getting pregnant. Oh my god,
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  Speaker 1: this stress piles up in a hurry and they start
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  Speaker 1: wondering which one of us has got the problem or
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  Speaker 1: is it both, And then everybody wants to go get
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  Speaker 1: tested and all that embarrassing, horrible kind of things you
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  Speaker 1: got to do. But if we just start balancing stuff,
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  Speaker 1: it works. And just like you know, when people are
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  Speaker 1: having miscarriages and irregular menstrual cycles before they do all this,
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  Speaker 1: that's a key indicator that your body, the baby factory,
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  Speaker 1: is not ready and we need to help. And like
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  Speaker 1: I said, if you don't help and mom's struggling, whether
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  Speaker 1: she's pregnant or not yet, or wants to get pregnant,
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  Speaker 1: this can cause all the stress in the world and
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  Speaker 1: everybody around the husband and the wife will so because
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  Speaker 1: they're miserable and they're stressed. And when mom gets pregnant.
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  Speaker 1: There's a lot of things that people think are normal
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  Speaker 1: that are not that we can help with. So first off,
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  Speaker 1: on prenatals, say mom wants to get pregnant, her and
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  Speaker 1: dad are talking about starting a family. You need some
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  Speaker 1: basic nutrition and there's several things that I recommend, and
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  Speaker 1: then I'm going to give you a couple of key
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  Speaker 1: ones that you could pick if you don't want to
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  Speaker 1: take a lot or do a lot or spend more money.
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  Speaker 1: But folic acid B twelve very important for neural tube
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  Speaker 1: production or growth or healing so that you don't have
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  Speaker 1: neural tube deficits. Calcium lactate very important so that calcium
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  Speaker 1: is assimilated into a mom and the baby that's trying
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  Speaker 1: to grow. Biodent which is very important for the teeth,
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  Speaker 1: and a lot of build bones, and good stuff like that.
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  Speaker 1: Syro food which is like a multi vitamin whole food
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  Speaker 1: kind of thing. It's got a lot of good stuff.
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  Speaker 1: Ferro food for the iron, very important that they have
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  Speaker 1: iron for building. A lot of the factors in the
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  Speaker 1: pregnancy of the baby and the baby being growing inside
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  Speaker 1: mama in muplex very important for mom and the baby
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  Speaker 1: to have a strong immune system as that baby develops,
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  Speaker 1: we want it to be healthy. Proteo food which is
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  Speaker 1: the essential amino acids, and without the amino acids, we
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  Speaker 1: don't have any protein, so that's important. And then neutromrror
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  Speaker 1: is the amino acids from the whole food blex it's
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  Speaker 1: got all the aminoescience. And then there's cataplex GTF that's
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  Speaker 1: the glucose tolerance factor, so we don't have any blood
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  Speaker 1: sugar imbalance. And then finally trace minerals BE twelve. That's
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  Speaker 1: the icing on the cake, all the good minerals and
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  Speaker 1: everything else put together. Quite it's quite a lot for
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  Speaker 1: most people, but usually when they want to get pregnant,
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  Speaker 1: they want you to help with everything you can. And
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  Speaker 1: then I tell some people you could do just a
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  Speaker 1: few of those like I would. I would say the
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  Speaker 1: most important would be mbiplex folic acid B twelve. You
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  Speaker 1: could probably pick catalin. It is a natural vitamin, mineral,
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  Speaker 1: trace mineral, enzyme, everything. So there are ways to work
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  Speaker 1: around this, but if you can and you will, doing
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  Speaker 1: the ones I mentioned is fabulous. And before we ever
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  Speaker 1: get to that part, I would make sure we were
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  Speaker 1: doing simplex F for the women and SIMPLEXM for the men,
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  Speaker 1: to make sure that we balance their hormones so that
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  Speaker 1: mom can get pregnant and that the menstrual cycles are
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  Speaker 1: regular so when mom starts to have the getting that
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  Speaker 1: baby developing, there's no miscarriages or any of that stuff
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  Speaker 1: because all the nutrition is there to help create that
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  Speaker 1: baby and let it grow inside mom. If you do
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  Speaker 1: all that and mom is trying to do pretty good
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  Speaker 1: on her own, then you're gonna do real well now
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  Speaker 1: once the baby's born, and in order for that baby
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  Speaker 1: to be born. We are terrible in the Western world
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  Speaker 1: of laying mama flat on her back and telling her
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  Speaker 1: push well. Doctor Jeanie Ohm, many many years ago, I
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  Speaker 1: took a seminar from her, and her and her husband
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  Speaker 1: were both doctors, and they had a nurse maid and
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  Speaker 1: they had the babies at home, and she said, the
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  Speaker 1: most important thing you do for that mom when they're
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  Speaker 1: having the baby is tilted down towards the floor. You notice,
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  Speaker 1: and everything on this earth they have their babies and
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  Speaker 1: they usually drop out. Well, in human world, we lay
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  Speaker 1: the mom down. That's not natural. It doesn't make the
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  Speaker 1: baby start gravitationally coming out. It just makes mom have
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  Speaker 1: to push and strain and suffer. So you tilt mom
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  Speaker 1: with her feet towards the floor, and the gravity itself
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  Speaker 1: will assist with having that baby and she won't have
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  Speaker 1: to do so much work and stress and pressing and pushing,
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  Speaker 1: and it's better for baby and mom and everybody else
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  Speaker 1: that's around there. And then once that baby's born, you
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  Speaker 1: might need some formula depending on whether or not mom
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  Speaker 1: can do breast food. But if she can do breast milk,
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  Speaker 1: that's the greatest, especially if mom's doing good things. But
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  Speaker 1: if she can't develop breast milk, we do have some
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  Speaker 1: things called i'm Marry PMG and this is basically the
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  Speaker 1: protomorphagin for the breast to help stimulate and make let
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  Speaker 1: it where mom can make the milk. And also you
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  Speaker 1: need to make sure she's got the good fatty acids
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  Speaker 1: and make sure she's got the good B vitamins. And
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  Speaker 1: then if during the pregnancy mom's having a rough time
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  Speaker 1: with morning sickness, are bloating or any of those problems,
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  Speaker 1: well that's not normal, but we've made it normal in
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  Speaker 1: the Western world. And usually if moms having morning sickness,
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  Speaker 1: it's a digestion issue. It's a liver issue. Moms now
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  Speaker 1: operating for two and everything in her body is being
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  Speaker 1: double dutied. So if we don't support the liver and
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  Speaker 1: digestion and help mom deal with all that, then she
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  Speaker 1: is going to have morning sickness. And when mom has
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  Speaker 1: morning sickness, she suffers and everybody around her is suffering,
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  Speaker 1: so we need to address that. And there's a lot
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  Speaker 1: of things you can do. We can do, like if
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  Speaker 1: mom's vomiting, foss food liquid helps af beta food which
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  Speaker 1: is a liver gallbladder kind of thing, zipan which is
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  Speaker 1: digestive enzymes and multizyme or ensicore which has got all
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  Speaker 1: the important digestive enzyme stuff in there, and that'll help
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  Speaker 1: her an awful lot and not have to have all
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  Speaker 1: the morning sickness. If we do things right, the pregnancy
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  Speaker 1: will be very smooth and Mom won't suffer. And then
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  Speaker 1: if mom is tilted towards the floor at birth time,
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  Speaker 1: guess what, so much easier, so much less stress and
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  Speaker 1: praying and pushing. Western medicine lost their mind when they
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  Speaker 1: decided to lay women on their back and tell them
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  Speaker 1: push to have a baby. They made it very difficult.
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  Speaker 1: So basically, just to kind of touch on everything first,
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  Speaker 1: if you want to get pregnant, we need to balance
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  Speaker 1: the hormones. A couple of things that I like to
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  Speaker 1: use are simplex F and M for the men, F
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  Speaker 1: for the women. Get them on a good supplement like
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  Speaker 1: cattle in emiuplex, make sure they've got all the nutrition
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  Speaker 1: to trace minerals of things like that in their body.
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  Speaker 1: Then when mom is pregnant, now we need to start
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  Speaker 1: thinking about folic casts of B twelve, calcium, lack tape, biodent,
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  Speaker 1: syril food, feral food with the iron emiplex again, proteo
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  Speaker 1: food and nutramere both amino acids. Proteo food is the essential,
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  Speaker 1: nutramire is all of them. And then the cataplex GTF
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  Speaker 1: to help mom and the baby deal with glucose tolerance,
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  Speaker 1: fector stuff and the trace minerals again. And then while
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  Speaker 1: mom's pregnant, if she's got morning sickness, we need to
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  Speaker 1: address it. It's not natural, it's not normal. It's the
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  Speaker 1: body's chickensine light saying fix this, stop this. If mom's vomiting,
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  Speaker 1: then we need to do some things like foss food,
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  Speaker 1: liquid a beta foods ipan and these things are going
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  Speaker 1: to be causing nauseousness and just weird, bad feelings for mom.
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  Speaker 1: And again you go the wrong doctor. They're going to
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  Speaker 1: tell you these are all normal things of pregnancy. No
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  Speaker 1: they're not. We can do better. And then when it's
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  Speaker 1: time to have the baby, tilt mom down towards the floor.
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  Speaker 1: Let gravity help her once that baby comes out. Now
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  Speaker 1: we need to make sure that we have breast milk
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  Speaker 1: and we can help mom with the memory PMG, the
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  Speaker 1: omega fatty acids, and the B vitamins very important. And
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  Speaker 1: if you need a baby formula because mom can't make
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  Speaker 1: it her own milk for some reason, are something just
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  Speaker 1: to give mom a break from pumping constantly if she's
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  Speaker 1: trying to store it in bottles. We use cyril food,
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  Speaker 1: calcil food powder, and thymus, and that cyril food is
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  Speaker 1: kind of a multi vitamin. The calcial food is going
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  Speaker 1: to have the calcium potassium, a few other things that
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  Speaker 1: are pretty important in the bone world there, and then thymus,
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  Speaker 1: which is from the thymus gland, which stimulates tea cells
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  Speaker 1: to help fight infection. So that way you're giving the
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  Speaker 1: baby all that. And they say in the first sharp
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  Speaker 1: amount of time after birth, the colostrum is in mom's
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  Speaker 1: breast milk and that is what's given the baby its
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  Speaker 1: initial immune system and helping it fight. And then we
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  Speaker 1: talked about this a couple of weeks ago. You can
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  Speaker 1: do raw milk for your baby and goat milk seems
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  Speaker 1: to be the one more closest to mom's milk. But
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: you can do cow milk or goat milk, either one,
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  Speaker 1: and that way you know your baby's getting nutrition. Because
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  Speaker 1: some moms like to store a bunch of milk and
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  Speaker 1: they're pumping all the time, sometimes they don't have enough
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  Speaker 1: milk for the baby when the baby wants it. A
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  Speaker 1: lot of stress, a lot of things going on. The
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  Speaker 1: memory PMG will help a lot with mom having enough milk.
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  Speaker 1: I've been down that road before, so a lot of
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  Speaker 1: cool stuff here. And the big thing and the reason
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  Speaker 1: all this came up was even though the guy is
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  Speaker 1: not pregnant, he's going through all this too, and so
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  Speaker 1: is all the family. So the better it is for mom,
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  Speaker 1: the smoother the pregnancy, the smoother delivery, and the healthier
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  Speaker 1: the baby when it comes out and starts going down
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  Speaker 1: that road, so much better for everybody. And a lot
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  Speaker 1: of the things we do in Western world medicine just
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  Speaker 1: don't make a lot of sense. I don't know going
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  Speaker 1: how far back they learn to tilt mama down towards
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  Speaker 1: the floor. But this doctor that I learned that from,
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  Speaker 1: she did that with her babies, and a made a big,
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  Speaker 1: big difference, all right, Susie, anything you might have had
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  Speaker 1: a baby or two along the way.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, And I'm not interested or capable of anymore. You know,
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  Speaker 4: I wish I had known these things, probably would have
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  Speaker 4: had at least on the first one, you know, less
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  Speaker 4: less trauma, you know, placenta separation, you know, pretending like
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  Speaker 4: the world was come to coming to a screeching hall,
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  Speaker 4: talking about emergency c section and there you lay, you know,
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  Speaker 4: on a gurney, absolutely helpless, and they can do whatever
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  Speaker 4: they want to you. As a matter of fact, you know,
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  Speaker 4: I ended up delivering just shortly after they you know,
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  Speaker 4: gave me whatever it was to knock me out. And yeah,
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  Speaker 4: I wish I had no dates, especially with baby number one.
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  Speaker 1: Did they at least have the decency to put in
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  Speaker 1: a zipper for the second one?
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  Speaker 4: They should have, considering he was nine pounds with two teeth.
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  Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah, and Mom's I remember Genie Olm explaining it
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  Speaker 1: to the audience, and she was telling us how tough
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  Speaker 1: it is on moms and being a mom and having
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  Speaker 1: the baby. She knew, But when you tilt mom towards
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  Speaker 1: the floor, and when you've given mom good nutrition for
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  Speaker 1: her and that baby life so much better. So many
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  Speaker 1: problems like what you described are because they give pre
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  Speaker 1: natal vitamins from the pharmacy hospital and they are terrible.
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  Speaker 1: I probably said this before, but my oldest daughter, her
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  Speaker 1: best friend's dad was a baby doctor, gynecologist, all that
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  Speaker 1: good stuff. And she went to see him and he
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  Speaker 1: gave her a bottle of the pre natal vitamins and
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  Speaker 1: she didn't say nothing. And she brought them to me
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  Speaker 1: and she said, this is what he gave me. Are
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  Speaker 1: they good? And I looked at him and there was
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  Speaker 1: nothing good. You might as well have just ate the
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  Speaker 1: bottle of plastic. There was just nothing good in there.
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  Speaker 1: And so I told her, I said, these vitamins are terrible.
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  Speaker 1: You don't want to take this. I'll take care of
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  Speaker 1: you if you want. Well, she is a little bit
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  Speaker 1: of a fireball, and she took them back to him
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  Speaker 1: and said, my dad said these are trash. And to
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  Speaker 1: this guy's credit, he said, well, you know what, we
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  Speaker 1: don't study that the hospital wants us to give them out.
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  Speaker 1: He said, I don't know anything about prenatal nutrition. And
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  Speaker 1: he said if my dad was a doctor and that's
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  Speaker 1: the kind of stuff he does, i'd listen to him.
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  Speaker 1: So she did after that and she had two kids,
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  Speaker 1: and both of them it was smooth sailing Bill anything,
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  Speaker 1: Oh you can't keep doing that, Steve. Can you do
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  Speaker 1: a thing with his microphone? Where we shocking? I know,
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  Speaker 1: I know there's things we can do, static elastricity, through
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  Speaker 1: the air something. Bill, We will get your attention.
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  Speaker 6: Oh yeah, my attention. This is this is an area
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  Speaker 6: that is tell him to be on my certainly.
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  Speaker 1: Certainly you've been around women that went through all the
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  Speaker 1: horrors of having a baby, and if they suffer, everybody
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  Speaker 1: around them suffers.
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  Speaker 6: When when that starts to happen, Bill disappears.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, Bell, I wanted to tell you you you were
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  Speaker 1: talking about growing up at a time when you turned
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: off the light switch when you left the room, and
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: I said, you know, I got to do better than that.
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: So I decided I'm going to turn the lights off
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: while I'm in the room. What do you think about that?
• 25:32
  Speaker 6: Well, I guess we could acknowledge that you've been in
• 25:36
  Speaker 6: the dark for a while, so that whoa.
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: He was ready when I needed him to talk. All
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: I got was a no. But I put a couple
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: of one liners out there, and he was sitting at
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: the plate waiting on me. All right, funny stuff, funny stuff.
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  Speaker 4: No, I was you know, I was pretty much a
• 25:56
  Speaker 4: happy camper when when I was pregnant. You know, the
• 26:00
  Speaker 4: first one it took, I was past due date, so
• 26:05
  Speaker 4: that was that didn't make me happy. I was uncomfortable.
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: But you know, mentally, you know, I think I was fine.
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: Really and truly. I had more problems with post partum
• 26:20
  Speaker 4: than I did being pregnant. I mean, for one thing,
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: at least towards the middle of my first pregnancy, I
• 26:31
  Speaker 4: ate the right things like chocolate chip cookies with cottage
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: cheese on them, so that helped. Mentally. I wouldn't recommend
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: it because it was chips ahoy, you.
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: Know, but you got to remember, when you're pregnant, your
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: body is telling you things, and I'm I'm glad you
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: brought a postpartum depression. One of the things with that
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: is drenomene for the adrenals and Serruda plus very important
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: for post martem depression. We hit it real heavy, I
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: mean like ten drenomen in a day and one of
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: the seruda plus three times a day for postpartum and that,
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: and then sometimes you need to simplex f and kind
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: of just get things balanced back out. And that's again,
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: that's the trouble with Western medicine. We've got all these
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: stupid diagnostic things and numbers and insurance codes, but we
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: don't do anything to help on that side of the coin.
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: Whereas for me, I'm helping make sure that after the baby,
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: mama's not depressed, you know. And you gotta remember, mama's
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: depressed because she just had a baby. Her whole system
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: has went through a train wreck and everything's out of balance.
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: So the modern Western world says, oh, she has depression,
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: let's put her on a medication. Well she's breastfeeding. Well
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: the baby's probably depressed too, and they do silly stuff.
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: But if you do things like drenamine and stimulate those
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: adrenals again and then the seruda, which is so important
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: for circulation and healthy blood flow and everything, we get
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: mama back to feeling good. And again, the reason all
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: this came up this week is when somebody's pregnant or
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: wants to get pregnant and they have the morning sickness
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: or the depression afterwards, are they're forced to lay on
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: their back and push that baby out, which is stupid
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: beyond belief. Everybody suffers. I've seen and heard of many
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: cases mama wanted to kill everybody around her when she
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: was having the baby or going through morning sickness, or
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: trying to get pregnant. And oh, when they're trying to
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: get pregnant, it's it's really rough because both the husband
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: and the wife start wondering what's wrong with us, and
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: usually it's nothing. It's just out of balance. And you
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: can't give a lot of the things that the modern
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: Western world wants to give and expect for a healthy baby.
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: And then God forbid that they do all them shots
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: in the hospital. I'm so proud of a lot of
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: parents that I've talked to in recent years and aren't
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: letting them give the kids all them shots anymore. Good.
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: And that's a great thing.
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: So anything Susie for we get ready to go to
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: break or bill.
• 29:53
  Speaker 4: Well, like on my second he had call it for
• 29:58
  Speaker 4: like ten or eleven months. You add nine months of pregnancy, yes,
• 30:03
  Speaker 4: you add postpart of depression. A nine pound baby with
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: two teeth that went to the dentist the first time
• 30:13
  Speaker 4: when he was eight days old because the baby doctor
• 30:18
  Speaker 4: was freaked out, and then call it for ten to
• 30:22
  Speaker 4: eleven months. For nearly two years, I wasn't a normal person.
• 30:30
  Speaker 4: And so it's not just being pregnant and then going
• 30:34
  Speaker 4: through delivery and then depression afterwards. But what if you
• 30:38
  Speaker 4: end up, you know, with a ginormous baby like I had, we.
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: Call it, yeah, well call it if my memory serves
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: me right, is usually a B vitamin deficiency and that
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: would have been taken care of in the pre when
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: we were looking at the nutrition requirements for mama. So
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: that's another one of those things that everybody knows about colic,
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: but they don't do anything about it. So a lot
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: we can do a lot of things we've learned. Like
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: I said, I've been really blessed. I had three or
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: four couples over the years who wanted to get pregnant
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: and have tried everything else. Came to me and they
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: got pregnant, and it was so cool. They would send
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: me a picture of the baby and just good that
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: you got to play a part in that and everybody
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: was healthy. All right, Bill, anything else before we go
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: to break?
• 31:43
  Speaker 6: Yep, let you go.
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: All right, I'm working on that shocker thing. All right, Well,
• 31:49
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  Speaker 1: All right, We are back. Welcome back to doctor Cooper's
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: Natural Health Doers. It is October first. The cool weather
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: is just blowing through. Got my jacket hanging over here
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: and needed it earlier. Got down to ninety nine and
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: we have got Susie, Bill and producer Steve behind the
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: curtain and we are all here. We were just talking
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: about having a baby and the mom and all the
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: things she goes through, and morning sickness and trying to
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: get pregnant and the prenatal vitamins that are needed before her,
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: and how to have the baby with mom delivering with
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: herself tilted down, letting gravity help. That's what inversion tables
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: are nice for. You could tilted to the floor and
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: a lot less stress. Susie brought up postpartum depression and colic,
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: things that we can take care of, but they don't.
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: Susie suffered for months with that stuff and shouldn't happen,
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: but it does because they weren't doing the right things.
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: So anything, Susie or Bill before we go on, Susie anything.
• 37:44
  Speaker 4: No, I choose to forget those days.
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: Bill, how about you?
• 37:53
  Speaker 6: No, h this is not part of my experience.
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's ah. It can be really rough. I've
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: known many a guy that got his head ripped off
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: because mama was going through hell. And you know, there's
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: so many good things we can do and make make
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: having your child a good thing and helping with every
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: part of that aspect. And like I said, that's why
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: this came up this week, because it affects everybody's life.
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: It's not just mom getting pregnant and the husband, the boyfriend,
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: the family, whatever is around, they're gonna go through some hell.
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: If mom's going through hell, she can't help it. They
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: don't know what to do, and it gets pretty crazy.
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: All right, what have we got tonight? Do we got
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: some jokes? Of course, we probably have some jokes. Grandpa
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: was a family service, big old family reunion, and he
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: looked really, really sad, and he was drinking heavy. And
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: one of the people there, one of his grandchildren, came
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: up to say, Grandpa, what's wrong? Why are you drinking
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: so much? And he said, look around you, I'm responsible
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: for all this.
• 39:31
  Speaker 4: That.
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: He wasn't too happy. All right. So you know, you
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: go to the gym and it seems like every machine
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: that you want to use is always taken. And I've
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: been telling them they need more vending machines, but they
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: don't listen. All right, guy says his wife, Babe, I
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: am really this made me think of you Susie, and
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: she looks at him kind of puzzled. She said, what
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: are you sorry about? He said, I'm just trying to
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: get ahead of it, because Susie guys. Susie has famously
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: said many times that she knows what we're going to
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: do wrong before we even do it. So poor Huntley
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: don't have a chance. All right, The lady says, honey,
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: we've been married fifty years. Shouldn't we kill a cow
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: and celebrate? And the old man says, it ain't the
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: cow's fault. We ought to kill your brother. He introduced us,
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: I like that one. And then the lady said, honey,
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: if I was to run away with your best friend,
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: what would you do? Women love those questions like that,
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: And he said, does it have to be my best friend?
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: She goes, what difference does that make? And he said, well,
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't have nobody to celebrate with funny stuff. Susie said,
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: I get some of them on the dark web? What
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: else I got? What else I got? Oh, if you
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: have ever gone to the family reunion to meet women,
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: you might be a redneck. And if you ever cut
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: your grass and found a car, you might be a redneck.
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: And then here was a guy. This guy, he thought
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: he did good. He went out and bought new beds,
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: and when they were going to sleep that night, his
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: wife gave him the dirtiest, most evil, angry look she
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: could give him, And him, being a typical guy, he said,
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: maybe she's mad because she wanted the top bunk. I
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: like that one. That was funny. Only a guy would
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: do that. All right, this blonde, no offense, Susy, but
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: you are a blonde. This blond bought herself an AM
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: radio and it was six months later before she figured
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: out it played in the afternoon. Also that one.
• 42:48
  Speaker 6: I like.
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: The blonde jokes are funny. I don't know who made
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: them up, but they're funny.
• 42:54
  Speaker 4: That's why there's no such thing as strawberry blonde jokes.
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: You're right, all right. There was a study done and
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: they said nine out of ten husbands say their wives
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: are always right. The tenth husband hasn't been seen since
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: they did the study. All right, that's that's some good stuff.
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: I don't care what you say. Uh funny stuff, all right, Susie.
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: Uh anything on pregnancy, prenatal afterwards, breastfeeding jokes, anything.
• 43:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah, then you get to go through the teenage years.
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I always said, once kids learned to talk, they
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: learned to talk back.
• 43:52
  Speaker 4: Yes, standard process has to have something for.
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: That, Bill, how about you.
• 44:01
  Speaker 6: Yeah, it's a kind of I've talked a little bit
• 44:05
  Speaker 6: about this in the last thir or three weeks, but
• 44:08
  Speaker 6: a couple of people I know have the daughters who've
• 44:12
  Speaker 6: been married and they have all of a sudden, you know,
• 44:14
  Speaker 6: they've got they've got two or three kids, and the
• 44:17
  Speaker 6: kids are now six or seven or eight, and somehow
• 44:21
  Speaker 6: being a mom has changed. And you know, when kids
• 44:25
  Speaker 6: are little, you can pick them up and hold them
• 44:28
  Speaker 6: and all that's kind of fun. And then as you say,
• 44:31
  Speaker 6: you know, when they learn to talk, they talk back.
• 44:33
  Speaker 6: And I think it's kind of a generational issue that,
• 44:40
  Speaker 6: you know, the idea of being a mom and having
• 44:44
  Speaker 6: a little kid is great, but they don't understand that
• 44:47
  Speaker 6: that's a twenty year commitment and all of a sudden,
• 44:51
  Speaker 6: by year seven or eight and this isn't such a
• 44:55
  Speaker 6: great thing anymore, and they're not even halfway through. And
• 44:59
  Speaker 6: I think the realization of that is it's very difficult,
• 45:06
  Speaker 6: but it's I think it's a different kind of a
• 45:08
  Speaker 6: different kind of the part postpartum the structure. But it's
• 45:12
  Speaker 6: it's certainly an evident one, and I think it happens
• 45:15
  Speaker 6: a lot more than than we've we've realized before. But it's, uh,
• 45:22
  Speaker 6: you know, it's just a generational thing that I really
• 45:25
  Speaker 6: begin to see in the last three years. And uh,
• 45:30
  Speaker 6: it's I don't I don't know if it's a maturity problem,
• 45:35
  Speaker 6: if it's just kids have no idea what they're getting injury.
• 45:39
  Speaker 6: They want so hard to be a family and fit
• 45:41
  Speaker 6: into the dream, and then reality slaps them up alongside there.
• 45:47
  Speaker 6: It's just not an easy out. You know, you're going
• 45:49
  Speaker 6: to have kids, you'd better think it through before you
• 45:53
  Speaker 6: get to it. Yeah.
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: Well, you know what I've noticed too, And I had
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: this in that book, how the communist Chinese are ruling
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: our world. And they talked about going after the mothers
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: years ago and convincing them instead of being proud to
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: be a mom and a wife and doing all the
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: functions with your kids and you know, being a stay
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: at home mom. They went and they were working, they
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: sat on brainwashing them forty fifty years ago, even that
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: they were being abused and mistreated and kept out of
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: the real world because they had to be a stay
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: at home mom, and so they've been working on them
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: for a long time, and it seems like when moms
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: were home it might have been a little tougher for moms.
• 46:54
  Speaker 6: I have a.
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: Feeling, but I think the kids did better. And I
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: think like with some of the homeschool sufflex as he
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: did and his homeschool families. I've talked to the fact
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: that mom or dad one of the parents, but in
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: most cases it was mom was more involved with their
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: school life and home and doing all the things with
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: them that they were closer. And the public schools were
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: under that same brainwashing trying to teach the teachers to
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: go more and more woke slowly over all these years
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: that I actually believe they created a lot of friction,
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: tell kids things like, you know, you don't tell your
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: mom and dad this when you go home, and they
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: created problems. So if you don't see your kids a lot,
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: and that school gets a hold of them, it can
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: be a lot of trouble what I've seen over the years.
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: In that book, they brag about it. They say they
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: went after the moms, they went after the schools, they
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: went after the churches, and their goal was to slowly
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: destroy everything, but doing it very slow, like watching the
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: frog and the hot pot boil. So I think you're right, Bill,
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: about six or seven years they look around and thinking
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: you're still here. And you know, we've created a society
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: where we make mom feel bad, and I I'm hoping
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: that that's changing. But you know, there's so many broken
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: homes and in the inner cities they say one of
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: the worst things is the mothers have the kids and
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: the fathers are not around at all. That's tough. You
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: need a dad and you need a mom. I think
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: for a better home environment, there's things you learn from both.
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: And you learn a lot of things from your grandparents,
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: and they also support the family and help the kids
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: respect mom and dad. And I see a lot of
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: the public schools today, especially in these pig cities like
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: where I'm at, I don't think they're teaching the kids
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: the good qualities of moms that stay at home and
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: stuff that It's become very woke.
• 49:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah, one of the problems right now is what I
• 49:35
  Speaker 4: think the term is. And someone can correct me if
• 49:40
  Speaker 4: I'm wrong, but it's along the lines of compassionate parenting.
• 49:46
  Speaker 4: And that's why you sit down and you reason with,
• 49:49
  Speaker 4: you know, a toddler or older you reason with to
• 50:02
  Speaker 4: correct bad behavior. And I'm sorry, you're not going to
• 50:06
  Speaker 4: reason with a toddler. You know, I didn't. I didn't
• 50:11
  Speaker 4: spank babies. Of course, I didn't spank. And when they
• 50:17
  Speaker 4: were like pulling up, you know, to the coffee table
• 50:21
  Speaker 4: or couch or whatever. But I did, you know, smack
• 50:25
  Speaker 4: the back of their hand lightly, like no, don't touch that,
• 50:29
  Speaker 4: you know. And so that's what I kind of liked
• 50:36
  Speaker 4: what Bill was talking about. You have to change as
• 50:42
  Speaker 4: the child grows. You have to change your techniques. It's
• 50:50
  Speaker 4: not it's a funny story, but it's not really funny.
• 50:54
  Speaker 4: So my son decided he was going to throw himself
• 50:57
  Speaker 4: in the floor and throw a I never did that,
• 51:02
  Speaker 4: my brothers, even my brothers never did that. I was
• 51:05
  Speaker 4: never around that. And I stood there and I thought, oh, hey,
• 51:11
  Speaker 4: o no. And so we were at home and I
• 51:17
  Speaker 4: told him no, you know, he couldn't do something or
• 51:20
  Speaker 4: just stop something. And he threw himself in the floor
• 51:23
  Speaker 4: in the living room and he started that crap, you know,
• 51:29
  Speaker 4: kicking the legs and slapping, you know, the hands on
• 51:32
  Speaker 4: the floor and I'm just going help me Jesus, And
• 51:38
  Speaker 4: the first thing that popped into my mind was to
• 51:41
  Speaker 4: do what he was doing. So I got down on
• 51:45
  Speaker 4: the floor and I started kicking my legs and slapping
• 51:50
  Speaker 4: my hands on the floor and pretend like crying, squalling
• 51:55
  Speaker 4: because he wasn't even really crying. And you know that
• 52:00
  Speaker 4: that was the last time that that kid ever did that.
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: I love it. Yes, no, go ahead, No, I'm just
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: going to say, i's to tell my kids. When you're
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: a parent. First off, usually it's young parents, so you're
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: growing up, well, your kids are growing up, And I said,
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: you make a lot of mistakes. There's no rule book
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: on how to raise kids. Everybody thinks they know what
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: to do, but nobody does. And when you're young, you're
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: growing up with the kids and you're learning, and you
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: make mistakes. Sometimes you overreact and then you feel bad,
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: so the next time you don't react as much because
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: you felt bad from the last time, and you know,
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: maybe you're too strict or not strict enough. It's a
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: really tough deal. And especially if the kids are in
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: a public school in these giant cities where they've all
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: gone woke and they're teaching their kids not to tell
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: mom and dad stuff, and pretty soon the kids don't
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: respect mam and dad.
• 53:08
  Speaker 4: So right now they don't. And it makes me think,
• 53:12
  Speaker 4: did all of these antifa and trans and burries that
• 53:18
  Speaker 4: identify as a cat and they must use a litter
• 53:21
  Speaker 4: box where they raised? Under compassionate parenting, I would say,
• 53:28
  Speaker 4: my kids are probably pretty lucky.
• 53:31
  Speaker 10: You know.
• 53:32
  Speaker 4: I would say, can I go to you know, spend
• 53:35
  Speaker 4: night with such and such, or go to so and
• 53:38
  Speaker 4: sell's party or you know, and I'd be twelve, thirteen, fourteen,
• 53:41
  Speaker 4: you know, sel fairly young, and my mother would say
• 53:47
  Speaker 4: no for some reason, you know that she didn't need
• 53:52
  Speaker 4: to explain. That's compassionate parenting. Sit down, let me tell you.
• 53:57
  Speaker 4: I'll want to explain my schedule and why you can't
• 54:00
  Speaker 4: go to this party. And my mother would always say,
• 54:03
  Speaker 4: because I said so and so I was watching and
• 54:09
  Speaker 4: I never no. I didn't like that. So I was
• 54:12
  Speaker 4: watching something and I don't remember, and it may have
• 54:15
  Speaker 4: been a sitcom and the kids are around the table
• 54:22
  Speaker 4: and they're not acting right, and you know, they're kind
• 54:26
  Speaker 4: of hypering out of control, and the parent, I think
• 54:31
  Speaker 4: it was a mother, said sit up straight, act right,
• 54:39
  Speaker 4: don't talk hateful, and a few more things, and she said,
• 54:44
  Speaker 4: this isn't a suggestion.
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: I like that.
• 54:53
  Speaker 4: So, yeah, we have to segue as we're as we're
• 54:56
  Speaker 4: raising kids. You know, I had four years and four
• 55:01
  Speaker 4: days between my two. I think personally that's too too
• 55:07
  Speaker 4: far out. It had its benefits and then it had
• 55:12
  Speaker 4: its drawbacks. So my daughter would be at school and
• 55:17
  Speaker 4: I still had my son at home. He was close
• 55:20
  Speaker 4: to getting into school but not yet. So you know,
• 55:23
  Speaker 4: I had and I used to think, why didn't we
• 55:27
  Speaker 4: wait until like our middle thirties or whatever to have kids?
• 55:32
  Speaker 4: And we were like twenty and and I think it's
• 55:39
  Speaker 4: great because my kids got grown up and out of
• 55:43
  Speaker 4: school and we weren't. We still weren't old fogies. But
• 55:50
  Speaker 4: my son, Yeah, we had problems from birth, Colleague, I'm
• 55:58
  Speaker 4: going to figure out how many ways I could throw
• 56:01
  Speaker 4: fits and then we uh, of course we would have
• 56:05
  Speaker 4: to go places and run run errands when he was
• 56:08
  Speaker 4: at work and Jennifer was at school. So we'd go
• 56:12
  Speaker 4: to the grocery store. Cot he'd be sitting up there
• 56:15
  Speaker 4: in the front, you know, the car, like where you
• 56:19
  Speaker 4: put the kids, and he would see something on the
• 56:24
  Speaker 4: shelf and he would want it. You know Apple Jacks
• 56:28
  Speaker 4: or candy bar or this or that. Well, that was
• 56:32
  Speaker 4: during that time of frame. You and I've talked about
• 56:35
  Speaker 4: it where I was ahead of the curb. I was
• 56:38
  Speaker 4: doing sea salt and I was doing olive oil, and
• 56:42
  Speaker 4: you know, I was finding sugar alternatives and getting dyes
• 56:47
  Speaker 4: out of food. You know, I was whole food cool
• 56:50
  Speaker 4: before uh you know most people I know. So he
• 56:55
  Speaker 4: was not say no, we're not getting that, we're not
• 56:57
  Speaker 4: getting that cereal. You can't eat that spag for you,
• 57:01
  Speaker 4: and he'd go with it, and I'd say, okay, let
• 57:04
  Speaker 4: me cut it out. This is you'll get one more warning.
• 57:10
  Speaker 4: And so he would go up it on something else
• 57:13
  Speaker 4: and I would take my cart to an employee and
• 57:16
  Speaker 4: I would apologize profusely and say, I told my son,
• 57:21
  Speaker 4: if he didn't change his tone, we were leaving and
• 57:28
  Speaker 4: I have to follow through on that, and I need
• 57:31
  Speaker 4: to take him out and deal with this, and I'm sorry,
• 57:35
  Speaker 4: I can't put everything up. And they smile real big
• 57:38
  Speaker 4: and go good playing, and I walked out. Well, of
• 57:42
  Speaker 4: course I'm going. I worked. My husband owns a swimming
• 57:48
  Speaker 4: pool business. I have, you know, a first grader, and
• 57:52
  Speaker 4: I really needed to get those groceries and get home
• 57:55
  Speaker 4: and get busy. But I had to make a point.
• 58:00
  Speaker 4: And it only took twice doing that, walking out of
• 58:03
  Speaker 4: the grocery store without his his fads, Mama approved fads
• 58:10
  Speaker 4: for him to quit that cup.
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's a tough road, huh. I think being
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: a parent is very difficult, and you second guess yourself forever,
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: and everybody's got an opinion, but unless they're living in
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: your shoes, it really doesn't matter.
• 58:30
  Speaker 4: Well, I think I've talked to everyone out of contacting
• 58:34
  Speaker 4: you for you know, fertility help and prenatal help. But
• 58:40
  Speaker 4: the rewards are there too. The rewards are there when
• 58:45
  Speaker 4: you throw yourself in the floor and mimic the child
• 58:51
  Speaker 4: and he never does it again.
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 58:53
  Speaker 4: I love that you didn't have to spank their butd
• 58:56
  Speaker 4: it's like you had to, you know, show your ass.
• 58:59
  Speaker 4: You know, one time you had to walk out of
• 59:02
  Speaker 4: the grocery store twice, But your kid learned to quit
• 59:06
  Speaker 4: arguing with you about you know, chunk food. And I
• 59:10
  Speaker 4: don't know, maybe that's I mean, I've seen people grab
• 59:15
  Speaker 4: their kids and smack the crap out of them, and
• 59:20
  Speaker 4: I thought it was a little easier because it worked
• 59:24
  Speaker 4: to just say no, really, then we're going home. We're
• 59:27
  Speaker 4: not getting any groceries them. I'm gonna have for dinner.
• 59:29
  Speaker 4: You're gonna have a oatmeal. Man.
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well what you did worked, thank god. Some people,
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: like I said, they're growing up. While the kids are
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: growing up, and they make mistakes and sometimes they overreact.
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: Sounds like you did pretty good. I'm sure I made
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: more mistakes. My biggest problem was when they became teenagers.
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, Right, that's when you start paying for
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: all your Yeah.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 4: But it's and it's funny. It's funny. Then, uh, and
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 4: do you do start paying for all your sins? And
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 4: that's that's where they growing up as a parent comes in.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 4: You go back in your memory banks and you go, oh, please, Lord,
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 4: don't want get them be as wild as I was,
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 4: or you know, please let them be as you know,
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 4: respectful and you know, kind and compassionate. Respectful, kind and
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 4: compassionate doesn't really apply to teenagers, but it's possible.
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, I always said the greatest job a parent
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 1: has is to prepare their children to be in a
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: world where they're not loved like they are in their family. Right,
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: and if you if they're prepared for that, then you
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: probably did pretty good. Bill, How about you? This has
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: got to have a lot of things for you. I'm
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: sure you had many a parent come to you, even
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: if they didn't bring the kids with all kinds of troubles.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 6: Yeah. And as you you know, have have been saying,
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 6: it's just there's no answers to you know, there's there's
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 6: no book about how to do this.
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: You just kind of have.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 6: To figure it out and realize that you're gonna do
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 6: better sometimes than others. And I kind of hope everything
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 6: works out. And uh, and just try not to hit them.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 6: I always said, you know that the child parent relationship
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 6: changes dramatically when the kid gets big enough to hurt you.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 11: Uh.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: Uh, that's why you drag them behind the car until
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: you get tired.
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 4: I'm just curious that Bill ever suggested to a parent, well,
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 4: if you're tired of the tantrums, get down on the
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 4: floor and have a tantrum with them and see what happens.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 6: No. I think that's great. No, I haven't ever heard
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 6: that before. My folks did have a close family friend
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 6: who was a physician. He's a surgeon, has three daughters
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 6: and the youngest one pulled the tantrum on and off,
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 6: and she was about five, I guess, or six, And
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 6: finally she was down on the floor, kicking, the screaming
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 6: and banging her head on the floor. And he just
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 6: grabbed her by the head, by the hair on the
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 6: back of her head and wrapped her head on the
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 6: floor real hard. And that was it. I never did
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 6: it again.
• 1:02:29
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  Speaker 6: She rides.
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  Speaker 4: On a pony she named Wildfire Whirlwind byes side.
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  Speaker 12: Oh, they say.
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  Speaker 1: I take it you do have a weekly topic up
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  Speaker 1: your sleeve.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, Well, I'm gonna play this little clip for you,
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  Speaker 1: and I hope it's uh where it can be on
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  Speaker 1: said and heard. I think it just might. Let me
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  Speaker 1: pull it up here. I remember you talked about it
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  Speaker 1: when you liked that song. So let's see what we
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  Speaker 4: And this is it.
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  Speaker 11: So I face the final cushion, my friend, I'll make
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  Speaker 1: And more once more. I did it all right?
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  Speaker 13: Bill?
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  Speaker 1: Could you pick it up?
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  Speaker 6: Uh? Yeah, Frank did it better.
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  Speaker 1: Him? All right? My friend take it away.
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 6: Yeah, it's kind of following right along. But this has
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  Speaker 6: come up several times and I thought need to kind
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 6: of talk about a little bit. And it has to
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 6: do with music, because I haven't talked about music for
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 6: a for a while. But you know, you talk about
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 6: the pieces that I like are way too long to
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 6: have on the show, and otherwise that's so, you know,
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 6: we have this shorter pieces. So thinking about that, there
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 6: seemed to be essentially after after many years of dealing
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 6: with this essentially too types of music. There there's short
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 6: pieces and there's long pieces. And I can talk about
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 6: the short ones first because there were here them more,
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 6: but what to call them because they're essentially they're they're
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 6: folk music. They're a ballad type, like the piece that
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 6: you played right after the break, where there's a kind
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 6: of a narrative or a story that's being told, or
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 6: as in a couple of weeks ago, when you talk
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 6: about the Scotsman who fell asleep and was peered at
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 6: by some passing young ladies. Kind of humorous stories that
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 6: folk music grew into over the years, and and i'm
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 6: America particularly, but they grew into blues, into jazz, came
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 6: out of a much much African music that came over
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 6: with the trade back in the nineteenth century, but grew
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 6: into Negro spirituals, what we call Negro spirituals, I don't
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 6: know what they call them anymore, but a wonderful body
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 6: of literature of music and how that all played out,
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 6: particularly in the South, and became became jazz, that became
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 6: rock and roll, that became whatever we got. And we've
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 6: kind of gone full circle with the origins of that
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 6: with with rap, but which is not one of my
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 6: favorite the mediums, but there it is what what makes
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 6: the difference between these these short pieces of music and
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 6: the and the longer pieces. To talk about the short
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 6: ones for a little bit, because most of the short
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 6: pieces that we hear, that you play, that we hear
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 6: on the radio.
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 1: Are our.
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 6: Driven their songs. And you know, when we use musically
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 6: we use the words song. We're talking about a vocal piece.
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 1: Song.
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 6: The words song does not apply to instrumental pieces. Those
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 6: are instrumental pieces, Okay, they're not songs. Songs mean that
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 6: there's singing going on, there's a vocal aspect to it.
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 6: And then in particularly with pieces like Wildfire, there there
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 6: is a narrative. There's a sense of a very kind
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 6: of simple poetry involved a lot of times as if
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 6: the piece you played and I the refrain, where there's
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 6: a four or five line refrain that recurs three or
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 6: four times throughout the piece that's separated by a little
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 6: more narrative, and then then the refrain comes back, and
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 6: then a little more narrative and then no more refrain.
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 6: It's uh, you know, if you think back to the
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 6: childhood rhymes that we learned, like Twinkle Twink a Little
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 6: Star and things like that. Very I don't like the
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 6: word simple because it has a negative context, but very
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 6: clean and easy and uncomplicated kind of verse structure, and
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 6: that's really what short music is all about. And when
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 6: I was thinking about this, I realized, of course that
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 6: when I use the term short music and long music,
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 6: I'm talking about two ends of a spectrum, and there's
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 6: a whole lot of stuff that goes on in between there.
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 6: Because there are very serious composers Schubert, Schumann, most Art,
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 6: bad who wrote leader who wrote songs? Okay, they're usually
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 6: for piano accompaniment, but the primary difference is that that
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 6: were the kind of songs that we're hearing on the radio,
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 6: of the popular songs of folk music. So much of
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 6: the lyrics were made up simultaneously, and this is certainly
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 6: true with a lot of rock music. The lyrics were
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 6: made created simultaneously with the music part of it, with
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 6: the background, with the film and the music. The background
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 6: music is again fairly unsophisticated, three or four chords, because
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 6: the point of that that idiom is not the background music,
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 6: it's the words, it's the lyrics. People like Mozart and
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 6: Beethoven took existing poetry jill Man, Schubert, all all the
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 6: way up into the twenties sis where they used existing
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 6: poetry written by the poets and set them to music,
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 6: and the the meter of the the rhythm of the
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  Speaker 6: poetry was subordinated to the music. They were they were
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  Speaker 6: equal parts. And composers typically look at the voice as
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  Speaker 6: an instrument, and singers will very often talk about their
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  Speaker 6: voice as an instrument. They call it, well, my instruments
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 6: off today, and as opposed to popular music folk music,
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 6: where the lyrics are in the more important aspect, and
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 6: the musical background is is very simple, three or four chords,
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 6: mostly three and in terms of of our of the
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 6: theory that tonic dominant subdominant chords once fours and fives
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 6: in the scale, and the classical with term classical composures
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 6: had had a much greater harmonic vocabulary than we see
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 6: with popular music. All of which is to say that
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  Speaker 6: one is not better than the other, it's just different.
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  Speaker 6: The whole point of music is that it provides a moment,
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  Speaker 6: maybe a brief moment, but a moment away. It takes
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 6: us away from our everyday nonsense and takes us to
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 6: a different place. And with with rock pieces or blues
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 6: or jazz or the spirituals, it's it is. It's a
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 6: place to regroup and to get aggressive, maybe recurring error
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 6: if we listen to the same piece over and over again,
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 6: but whether it's Beathoven or or Jimi Hendrix, the point
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 6: is that it takes us to a different place for
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 6: a bit. And again, you know, we're looking at the
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 6: at the folk music, and particularly thinking about jazz. So
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 6: many of the performers and I don't think that this
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  Speaker 6: is so much true anymore, but I've been away from it,
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 6: so I can't really say for sure. But many of
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  Speaker 6: the performers were classically trained. Very few, well that's just
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 6: make bit. Very few performers we were self taught back Okay,
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 6: that's not true of rawkers or so. But with jazz,
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 6: you know a lot of these folks. And I'm thinking
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 6: particularly of a fellow back in the sixties and seventies
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 6: named Olscar Peterson who was trained as a classic pianist,
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 6: but he was a superb jazz musician, and that's what
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 6: he is known for. Comedian. Just his saying just got
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 6: away from me. It'll come in a moment. Who's who's
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 6: made a couple of a couple of movies. A British guy,
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 6: when we talked about it before, he was trained at
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 6: Oxford as a as a classical pianist, and he was
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 6: he would occasionally do the concerts that way, but he
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 6: was he made his living being a comedian. Dudley Moore
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 6: and you know so. But these these kinds of guys
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 6: are kind of arty between a lot of the popular
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 6: musicians are self taught. They're good, they understand their medium.
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 6: It's a different kind of it's just a different kind
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 6: of music. So I see you're looking at an analogy.
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 6: They're trying to think of a way to put this.
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 6: You know, if I think about another art form like
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 6: pay we have small paintings, and there may be paintings
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 6: in are twenty by thirty inches or thirty by thirty inches,
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 6: fairly small, some by much smaller called miniatures, and they
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 6: were maybe six by six inches as opposed to the
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 6: larger paintings. And they have one that came to mind
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 6: that I talked about this guy before, Monet, French impressionist
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 6: painter who did a series of paintings called water Lilies,
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 6: and the paintings are like six feet by six feet,
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 6: six feet by eight feet. They're huge. Well, there's a
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 6: tremendous about more detail in these large paintings. The structure
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 6: very generally is the same. You know, we have we
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 6: have the interplay of color, of shape, our usual rhythm,
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 6: but the conceptual issues of a large painting. And again,
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  Speaker 6: I know I've talked about Jackson Pollock, whose paintings were
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 6: sometimes ten by fifteen feet. It's a whole different kind
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 6: of way of looking at things and it's not as
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 6: I say, one's not better than the other, is not
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 6: worse than the other. There are great artists and musicians
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 6: in either category, and there's a lot of bad ones.
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 6: Fortunately they're not so good. Composers and performers are kind
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 6: of drift away. We don't hear from them anymore. But
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 6: the great ones we do remember. Primary difference that popular
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 6: music is essentially vocal music. When thinking about the good
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 6: song that you played, I guess it was last week
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 6: in a sense that mimics an instrumental We don't have
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 6: very many purely instrumental pieces. One of the ones that
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 6: came to mind was from the movie Deliverance. Overrated film,
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 6: but the movie Deliverance and the Dueling Band Goes Okay,
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 6: which was a back and forth on Yankee duodl was
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 6: really one of the most popular cure the instrumental pieces
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 6: of the last twenty years that I can recall. I'm
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 6: sure they're more, but most of the popular music, the
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 6: folk type music, is vocal as opposed to the longer pieces,
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 6: and the longer pieces off what I call abstract music.
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 6: And I use the term because they are if they
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 6: are written purely for it's kind of a circular problem
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 6: for music, that it's not to project a text, it's
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 6: not to project a message that has to do a language.
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 6: Spoken language. Music is as they will argue, it's their
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 6: own language, but it's really music for its own sake.
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 6: We look at Beethoven, we look at Mozart, or Ravel
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 6: or way back or way way, way through, and the
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 6: abstraction is that it takes us again to the same place.
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 6: It's a moment away or forty five minutes away, or
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 6: an out or away. It takes us to a different place,
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 6: and it's just done. It's done differently, and it's much
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 6: more complex than folk music. You know, a lot of
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 6: folk music was surely vocal. If you think back to
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 6: you know what we really mused to all folk music,
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 6: and there was no instruments at all. It was just
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 6: people singing, a person singing or two people singing. Occasionally
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 6: there was a fiddle or maybe a flute or maybe
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 6: a clarinet accompaniment, but mostly a fiddle. And the whole point,
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 6: again was the verbal verbal message, the verbal rhythm, the
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 6: verbal aspect of it. All classical music, there's a lot
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 6: of classical music that has voices in it, but it's
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 6: the voices are treated very differently in longer music. They're
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 6: they're treated more instrumentally than they are lyrically. Yeah, the
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 6: words are there, the same words are there. But when
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 6: when a composer would set a poet a poet's work
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 6: to a piece of music, words became repeated, phrases became repeated.
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  Speaker 4: The.
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  Speaker 6: Instrumentation of the voice was exampled, not only in textual changes.
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 6: They didn't add words, they just repeated words. But many
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 6: times just the vowel sounds or the consonant sounds of
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 6: the voice were what were important. The words were important,
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 6: But how that sound that the human voice could make
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 6: in the vocalization of those words, That was the instrumentation.
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 6: You know, a clarinet has the capability, as knows, to
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 6: make many different kinds of sounds a trumpet does, the
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 6: violin does well. The human voice does too. And as
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 6: they would set these things to music, these different different
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 6: lyrics to music, regulous poems or arts of the the
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 6: Roman mass, for the Anglican mass, whatever, how the sounds
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 6: produced by the voice were as important as the sounds
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 6: that the instruments made. Again, much more complex, the harmonic
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 6: structure was much more I don't particularly want to use
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 6: the word sophisticated, but I'm going to say sophisticated, much
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 6: more varied. It's the bigger painting. There's a lot more detail,
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 6: there's a lot more places to go with it. You know,
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 6: if you're cooking in a piece of music that's ten
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 6: minutes long, well minutes long, maybe fifteen minutes long, you
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 6: don't have the time to get into all the detail.
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 6: If you're looking at in a piece that's forty minutes
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 6: forty five minutes long, it's very different how pieces are
• 1:25:56
  Speaker 6: strung together. You know, Betho and you know I look
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 6: at we look at the symphonies, and we take the
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 6: fifth up up. Okay, that's the first movement. The second
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 6: movement takes that same ridden pattern. It is much slower
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 6: and it goes down dot com bought up dot dumb
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 6: but sagorhythm, different speed, different accent. It's a whole different thing.
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 6: But we at some level know that it's connected. Of course,
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 6: if you're a music student, you have to analyze the
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 6: work and look at it critically. You understand that at
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 6: about two minutes, but it's or maybe not two minutes,
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 6: but maybe one minute. But it's Still it's a very
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 6: different kind of approach, and it's it's a longer approach.
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 6: There's a longer moment away, and it's not for everybody.
• 1:26:51
  Speaker 6: Doesn't make it better, it doesn't make it worse. You know,
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 6: there's a lot of jazz that I just can't listen
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 6: to because it's boring. I find it. I shouldn't say
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 6: it's boring. I find it boring. I find it tedious,
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 6: I find it predictable, and it's uninteresting to me. Somebody
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 6: else might find those same pieces absolutely fascinating, and I think, again,
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 6: this comes back to we're all different. We all filter
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 6: everything through our own experience, whether it's hearing or visual,
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 6: or whether we actually have some kind of predisposition to
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 6: some kind of cultural hitting that we may not even
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 6: be aware of. All we all look at things individually
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 6: and independently, and that's the beauty of it. There's a
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 6: lot of rock that I don't like. There are some
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 6: fine pieces that we're prayed and were produced and still are.
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 6: I guess I don't listen to it anymore because I
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 6: can't hear it. But it has to do with my
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 6: own racial vocabulary and what we like or what we
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 6: don't like fluctuations and changes just says our own behavior.
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 6: Fluctuations change the short pieces of long pieces, abstract music,
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 6: functional music, and there's a whole lot of stuff in
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 6: between those two poles. The Broadway plays the musicals, some
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 6: fine time music came out of those things. Opera is
• 1:28:28
  Speaker 6: kind of a blend of all that stuff, just a
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 6: whole lot of crossover in there that's not one or
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 6: the other, and it's all basically again, an experience of
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 6: a moment away, of a moment to kind of regenerate,
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 6: to escape from our daily nonsense and to hopefully look
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 6: at things a little bit differently. But anyway, there we
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 6: goes so much for shorts and lungs.
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 1: Good stuff. I love music, AllMusic, and I'm so jealous
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 1: of the people that can do all of it. It
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 1: just I love I just love it. But I'm I
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 1: don't understand how you can write a song that's to
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 1: me that's so cool, and those those great compositions that
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 1: are a couple hours long that you talk about, that's
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 1: some talent beyond belief. I think music is a really
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 1: cool thing and I wish I could have got more
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 1: into it as a young kid.
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 4: So is he anything, no fabulous stuff like always.
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and music's been Bill's world for a long time,
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 1: so who better to talk about all those different things?
• 1:29:51
  Speaker 1: Because like that, I listened to a lot of stuff.
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 1: I even found a blues song today when I was
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 1: looking for music that I might play one of these
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 1: weeks that I liked. It was just different. Normally I
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 1: don't listen to much jazz or blues, but this one
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 1: grabbed me a little bit. That's the way music's been
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 1: for me. All Right, Well, I guess we're at break. Susie,
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 1: you got some recipes up your sleeve. I got one, okay,
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 1: that sounds great. And when we come back, we've got
• 1:30:29
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  Speaker 4: Okay. So I have talked about iron corn flour. It's
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 4: an ancient grain and it's it can be tricky, you know,
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 4: to work with because it's a little bit different, you know,
• 1:36:21
  Speaker 4: with your liquid to flour ratio than you know your
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 4: modern wheat flour. So I'd like to bring up a
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 4: iron corn specific recipe every now and then. And this
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 4: one's fabulous. I love this recipe and it is English muffins.
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 4: And so this is just plain English muffins. You could
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 4: add whatever you wanted. You could add you know, some
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 4: dried blueberries or dried cranberries, dried cherries even or you know, raisin,
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 4: raisin and cinnamon. But this is going to be your basic.
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 4: So three and a half cups of pink worn flour
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 4: and then a little extra for dusting, a teaspoon of
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 4: good Celtic sea salt, and then two teaspoons of instant yeast.
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 4: Then you got your wet ingredients. And just for those
• 1:37:23
  Speaker 4: who may not know, I like to draw my yeast
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 4: in the fridge. It just lasts longer. So a cup
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 4: of warm milk about one hundred and ten degrees two
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 4: tablespoons of butter melted a tablespoonful of honey or maple syrup.
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 4: I particularly like it with the honey, but either way,
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 4: and then you're gonna need one large egg. And of
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 4: course we all know English muffins have that texture to them,
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 4: and that's because of the corn meal, and so you
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 4: could use an English muffin pan, or you could just
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 4: use a cookie sheet and alignment with u porch paper.
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 4: So in a small bowl, you're gonna put your warm
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 4: milk in your honey and don't let it be over
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 4: one hundred and ten degrees and then you're gonna stir
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 4: it and you're gonna let it sit for like five
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 4: minutes and it'll become very frothy, bubbly, if you will,
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 4: because that yeast just begins to really feed on that
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 4: honey or maple syrup and then the dough. It's so simple,
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 4: Bill or Dot could do it. In a large bowl.
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 4: You're gonna mix together your your pine corn flour and
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 4: your salt, and then you're gonna add your yeast mixture,
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 4: you your melted butter, and then you're beaten egg, and
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 4: then you're just gonna mix this until it kind of
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 4: forms it'll be a sticky, sticky dough. Cover it and
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 4: let it rise for about sixty to ninety minutes and
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 4: till it about doubles, and then you're gonna shape your muffin.
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 4: One good thing to have is like a three inch
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 4: wide cookie cutter, and then you're going to press your
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 4: dough out to about three quarters of an inch and
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 4: then use that cookie cutter and you can put it.
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 4: Then you put your your muffins on your prepared baking sheet,
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 4: and then you're gonna sprinkle the corn meal on the
• 1:40:10
  Speaker 4: baking sheet, and then you're gonna let these muffins are
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 4: sat for about thirty minutes. I would I would cover
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 4: them with a clean kitchen towel, and then you'll have
• 1:40:26
  Speaker 4: to heat up an oven for this. So you could
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 4: use like a cast iron griddle or skill it and
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 4: then grease it lightly with butter and then put these
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 4: English muffins onto that hot surface and then cook them
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 4: about six to seven minutes per side, and and and
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 4: flip them gently to keep their shape. You could use
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 4: a spot well, you could use a you could use
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 4: a spatula and then and use the fork to kind
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 4: of keep it steady. Is what I'm trying to say.
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 4: And then if the if the muffins brown too quickly,
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 4: you can transfer them to your oven at three hundred
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 4: degrees for about five minutes to make sure that your
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 4: inside is well cooked. So you might go ahead pre
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 4: preheat that oven and be ready for it in case
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 4: you do need to to go ahead and put them
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 4: in there, and then you can serve them, you know,
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 4: put them on a wire rack and let them rest
• 1:41:51
  Speaker 4: for about ten minutes before you slice them so they
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 4: don't just fall apart because they're so fabulous. And then
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 4: you you can serve him right after that ten minutes
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 4: or you know, the leftovers. This makes about eight to
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 4: ten English muffins, so it says, and so your leftovers
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 4: you can always cut them and toast him in a
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 4: toaster or a toaster oven. And then it's pretty simple
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 4: to have fresh, quality, healthy English muffins.
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 1: You think, Bill, by now we would have taughtter a
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 1: quit saying it's easy enough for us to make.
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 6: I don't think that'll ever happen.
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you're right. Well, let me do a
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 1: little clip for our producer Mushy, as he's noted in
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 1: the chat room. Real quick a little clip for him
• 1:42:48
  Speaker 1: so he don't feel left out. So just one second. Soyes,
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 1: your recipe sounded delicious. Now I'm hungry. All right, here
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 1: we go. This is for our producers. Steve, I.
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 12: Astairs time tam sing all the time, I got basics.
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 1: All right, we are back that I had to have
• 1:44:23
  Speaker 1: a little clip. I heard that today when I was
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 1: looking around, and I figured that was a song that
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 1: Steve would remember, and like, I think that was popular
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 1: around nineteen seventy, Black Seventh and Iron Man.
• 1:44:40
  Speaker 4: So I get really tired of that mushy music. I
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 4: have to agree with Steven.
• 1:44:47
  Speaker 1: That's all I need. What was mushy tonight? What was mushy?
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 4: I'm being smart Aleck, that's thing.
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I got I got all three of
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 1: them against me, Ladies and gentlemen. It's just not fair.
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 1: I'm sure I've committed a few million sins, but it's
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 1: just not fair. Oh all right, So anything susy that
• 1:45:12
  Speaker 1: you would like to throw out there, We've got plenty
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 1: of time.
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 4: M Well, all I can say is if they want
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 4: to take your gull ladder called doc and don't let
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 4: them do it. She is.
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 1: Telling you, because why.
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 4: Sissy, Because your liver has to pick up the slack
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 4: and it wears it out.
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 1: But why, I guess my question was, what are you
• 1:45:50
  Speaker 1: trying to tell them that you've had that experience?
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 4: Yes, I am.
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, We'll probably a whole show on that one night,
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 1: and let Susy tell you her story. Pretty interesting.
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 4: I'm glad you see it is interesting.
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I do. It's very common, a lot more
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 1: common than people would like to think. And it's because
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 1: of the system, the same system that lays a woman
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 1: down to tell her to push and push and push,
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 1: when you could tilt her towards the floor and let
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 1: gravity help. You got to wonder about modern Western medicine.
• 1:46:37
  Speaker 1: Somehow they missed the boat, but they know how to
• 1:46:39
  Speaker 1: count the money. There was a.
• 1:46:44
  Speaker 4: There was this series on TV well and it was
• 1:46:48
  Speaker 4: I think out of Canada. It's about a bunch of daughters.
• 1:46:52
  Speaker 4: So I can't remember the name of it. But one
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 4: of the women went in was going into labor, and
• 1:47:02
  Speaker 4: she went outside and she spread her blanket out and
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 4: she had her help there and she did it I
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 4: guess Indian style, where she literally hugged a tree and
• 1:47:16
  Speaker 4: squatted and someone was there to be the catcher. And
• 1:47:22
  Speaker 4: I was like, hum, I don't think I could take
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 4: it that far.
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that would be tough. But you know, when doctor
• 1:47:33
  Speaker 1: Genie Ohm taught us that all those years ago, it
• 1:47:37
  Speaker 1: made so much sense. And her and her husband had
• 1:47:43
  Speaker 1: done that at their home and had their children that
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 1: way made it so much easier, because the childbirth part
• 1:47:54
  Speaker 1: is rough, especially when you're laying flat on your back
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 1: and being told to push.
• 1:47:59
  Speaker 4: Well, you try not to be a conspiracy theory theorist
• 1:48:04
  Speaker 4: and think, are they trying to set you up for
• 1:48:08
  Speaker 4: a difficult delivery so that oh my gosh, we've got
• 1:48:13
  Speaker 4: to do a C section.
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, either that or Bill Gates was involved and he
• 1:48:18
  Speaker 1: don't want you to having a bunch of kids. I
• 1:48:21
  Speaker 1: saw a show with him the other day and he
• 1:48:24
  Speaker 1: said that we really don't need people, We just need
• 1:48:28
  Speaker 1: a few for entertainment.
• 1:48:33
  Speaker 4: And I thought, yeah, I would have something to say
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 4: to him, we need a few lefts like you. What
• 1:48:39
  Speaker 4: were your parents thinking?
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 1: Well, evidently his parents must have taught him that stuff
• 1:48:45
  Speaker 1: and they must have believed. And I got the feeling
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 1: the way he was talking that he felt like the
• 1:48:51
  Speaker 1: rich elite were oded and Earth without the rest of
• 1:48:56
  Speaker 1: us on it.
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 4: So I don't know such a statement coming from such
• 1:49:03
  Speaker 4: a but ugly man.
• 1:49:07
  Speaker 1: Did you see the chat Room City?
• 1:49:10
  Speaker 4: Now?
• 1:49:10
  Speaker 1: Iron Man from Black Sabbath falls into that category.
• 1:49:15
  Speaker 4: No. I think if I can find someone who works
• 1:49:19
  Speaker 4: on computers, I might have to take mine to him.
• 1:49:22
  Speaker 4: I'm on my phone now, Oh thanks to producer Steve.
• 1:49:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well you you might need to take him your
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 1: computer because last time it heated up just a little hot.
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:49:38
  Speaker 4: I don't know if it's the battery or if it's
• 1:49:40
  Speaker 4: the after market slow boat from China charging cord.
• 1:49:47
  Speaker 1: Now is yours Apple or Windows?
• 1:49:52
  Speaker 4: It's an Apple, but I've got a Dell and it's ginormous,
• 1:49:56
  Speaker 4: and the guys used it for nothing but go pro editing,
• 1:50:05
  Speaker 4: and so you know it needed some big memories or
• 1:50:09
  Speaker 4: whatever it had to have. I would have to go
• 1:50:13
  Speaker 4: in literally and set up everything zoom, my recipe, side
• 1:50:22
  Speaker 4: my rumble, And for like three weeks I haven't really
• 1:50:27
  Speaker 4: felt like it. Yeah, I bet I'm probably gonna have
• 1:50:31
  Speaker 4: to do that this weekend. Just bite the bullet.
• 1:50:34
  Speaker 11: Oh.
• 1:50:35
  Speaker 1: I remember when my computer was dying and I had
• 1:50:38
  Speaker 1: back then we were using that other software for the show,
• 1:50:42
  Speaker 1: and I had to go put all that stuff back
• 1:50:45
  Speaker 1: in and set it all back up. It was a nightmare.
• 1:50:49
  Speaker 4: Well this isn't as bad. But getting used to a
• 1:50:56
  Speaker 4: Windows machine to me is like trying to figure out
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 4: how left handed people do things, because for me, a
• 1:51:05
  Speaker 4: Windows machine is like a left handed gadget and Apple
• 1:51:09
  Speaker 4: is a common sense gadget.
• 1:51:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well I've never used Apple, so I would it
• 1:51:14
  Speaker 1: would be the other way around for me. How about you, Bill?
• 1:51:16
  Speaker 1: Have you ever used Apple? Yeah?
• 1:51:20
  Speaker 6: When I was living in Colorado, worked with a guy
• 1:51:23
  Speaker 6: who'd been in uh uh, the cryptology in the Navy.
• 1:51:30
  Speaker 6: We were talking about computers and he said an Apple.
• 1:51:33
  Speaker 6: Apple was really the only computer on the market that
• 1:51:38
  Speaker 6: any anything. Everything to do with Windows has just been
• 1:51:41
  Speaker 6: cobbled on to the original and it's just a mess.
• 1:51:44
  Speaker 6: It's just been change after change after change, and they
• 1:51:47
  Speaker 6: never really start over. They just keep adding stuff onto it.
• 1:51:51
  Speaker 6: But he said, Apple's got it really simple. And yeah,
• 1:51:53
  Speaker 6: I had an in California, had an Apple and it
• 1:51:57
  Speaker 6: works just fine.
• 1:51:59
  Speaker 1: How about you, Steve, So, are you familiar with both
• 1:52:04
  Speaker 1: Windows and Apple? Are there?
• 1:52:11
  Speaker 5: Bill?
• 1:52:13
  Speaker 6: I'm here?
• 1:52:14
  Speaker 1: I said, are you? Are you familiar with both the
• 1:52:18
  Speaker 1: Apple and the Windows? You've used both?
• 1:52:23
  Speaker 6: Are you talking to Steve or me. I'm sorry you, Steve,
• 1:52:26
  Speaker 6: I was a said something. I haven't used Apple for years,
• 1:52:29
  Speaker 6: twenty years, but it was it was It was really
• 1:52:34
  Speaker 6: the first computer that I had any experience with. And
• 1:52:37
  Speaker 6: it was fine. It was fine. It just they just
• 1:52:40
  Speaker 6: didn't have a lot of the stuff that I needed.
• 1:52:42
  Speaker 6: They didn't have a they didn't have a good drafting program,
• 1:52:45
  Speaker 6: they didn't have a lot of stuff that at that
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 6: point I was interested in. So switched over the Windows.
• 1:52:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and that's why, exactly why we got the Dell
• 1:52:56
  Speaker 4: for the GoPro editing. You know, you would have to
• 1:53:02
  Speaker 4: spend gosh seven or eight dollars on the big old
• 1:53:07
  Speaker 4: desktop Apple, I think to be able to do that
• 1:53:11
  Speaker 4: kind of stuff, and we just we couldn't do it. Well,
• 1:53:13
  Speaker 4: my Apple's pretty good.
• 1:53:16
  Speaker 1: Well, what kind of stuff for you doing? Bill that
• 1:53:18
  Speaker 1: you did a lot of graphics?
• 1:53:22
  Speaker 6: Uh, we used the autocab. Working for an engineering company,
• 1:53:25
  Speaker 6: I was.
• 1:53:26
  Speaker 4: A Uh.
• 1:53:29
  Speaker 6: I did a lot. I did a lot of drafting
• 1:53:30
  Speaker 6: for him, but primarily I was a drafting checker that
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 6: after that, after all the drawings were done, I went
• 1:53:35
  Speaker 6: to you and to make sure all the numbers added up. Right?
• 1:53:39
  Speaker 1: Wow, is there anything you haven't done. I mean, I'm
• 1:53:46
  Speaker 1: not sure if you were running from the law, but
• 1:53:48
  Speaker 1: you've lived everywhere and done every kind of job I
• 1:53:51
  Speaker 1: can think of.
• 1:53:55
  Speaker 6: I've never been in a septic business, eptic tank cleaning business.
• 1:53:59
  Speaker 6: I'm sure he dealt with enough my life.
• 1:54:01
  Speaker 1: So you've done a lot of things. And in the
• 1:54:04
  Speaker 1: middle of all that music. Wow, pretty impressive. And then
• 1:54:11
  Speaker 1: you told me that you were the like the everything
• 1:54:15
  Speaker 1: at some friends hotel or something like that, you did everything.
• 1:54:21
  Speaker 6: Oh yeah it was. I ran the maintenance end of
• 1:54:24
  Speaker 6: it for a season.
• 1:54:26
  Speaker 1: Wow, I'm impressed. All right, guys, Well, anything else, Susie.
• 1:54:33
  Speaker 1: We've got a few minutes so you can close something out,
• 1:54:36
  Speaker 1: Producer Steve. If you wanted to jump in with any
• 1:54:39
  Speaker 1: comments on Windows versus Apple, jump right in. We'd love
• 1:54:45
  Speaker 1: to hear from you. I guess he's still tied up
• 1:54:51
  Speaker 1: back there feed and casts funny. All right, Well, anything
• 1:55:01
  Speaker 1: Susy for we start.
• 1:55:03
  Speaker 6: Wrapping things up, seating cats.
• 1:55:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, she left us too, Bill. Anything you'd like to
• 1:55:16
  Speaker 1: close out, anything you'd like to talk about anything at
• 1:55:19
  Speaker 1: it all, anything, whether it's tonight or anything.
• 1:55:21
  Speaker 6: Yeah. I came up a while ago. I had a
• 1:55:26
  Speaker 6: earlier in the week, A cat sitting in my lap
• 1:55:29
  Speaker 6: and jumped off, and it reminded me of a book
• 1:55:33
  Speaker 6: that we talked a lot about when I was a
• 1:55:35
  Speaker 6: sophomore in high school, and the book was called Revenge
• 1:55:38
  Speaker 6: of the Tiger by Claude Balls.
• 1:55:45
  Speaker 1: Susie, you're back. Where were you? We're just talking to
• 1:55:48
  Speaker 1: you a minute ago.
• 1:55:49
  Speaker 4: Well, you know, zoom is different on the phone than
• 1:55:54
  Speaker 4: it is on the computer. And I'm sitting here going, okay,
• 1:55:58
  Speaker 4: I can't get to you know myself. How do I
• 1:56:04
  Speaker 4: get to myself to unmute myself? And so I figured
• 1:56:08
  Speaker 4: it out that, yeah, I wasn't ignoring. I heard everything
• 1:56:11
  Speaker 4: else said, but.
• 1:56:14
  Speaker 11: I don't.
• 1:56:14
  Speaker 4: I don't have anything really to add other than thank
• 1:56:19
  Speaker 4: you for taking such good care of me.
• 1:56:24
  Speaker 1: You're most welcome, But I think you give me a
• 1:56:26
  Speaker 1: lot more credit than I deserve. Bill, you didn't hang
• 1:56:32
  Speaker 1: up on me tonight. I'm really grateful.
• 1:56:35
  Speaker 6: I sure can, Susie.
• 1:56:39
  Speaker 1: Don't encourage him.
• 1:56:41
  Speaker 4: That was pretty funny.
• 1:56:44
  Speaker 1: Don't encourage him. Yeah, he's he's always got some quick
• 1:56:48
  Speaker 1: one liners. If you notice that he must write him
• 1:56:50
  Speaker 1: down during the week. But he's he's witty, kind of
• 1:56:55
  Speaker 1: quick comeback for a lot of things, and so does
• 1:56:58
  Speaker 1: our producer Buddy. He's got some funny stuff in the
• 1:57:02
  Speaker 1: jet room there. Kind of interesting.
• 1:57:06
  Speaker 4: Uh.
• 1:57:07
  Speaker 1: The last, the last thing I would have ever thought
• 1:57:10
  Speaker 1: was an adjective of mushy for any of the songs. Uh,
• 1:57:16
  Speaker 1: that's funny. And especially Black Sabbath. They were big when
• 1:57:22
  Speaker 1: probably I think, like in the seventies, I'm pretty sure.
• 1:57:30
  Speaker 4: I never I never listened to that. Probably the most
• 1:57:36
  Speaker 4: I listened to has been probably the worst would have
• 1:57:41
  Speaker 4: been led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd.
• 1:57:48
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:57:48
  Speaker 1: I remember. There was a lot of groups when we're
• 1:57:52
  Speaker 1: growing up, everything from the old rock and roll, like
• 1:57:56
  Speaker 1: the Animals and question Mark and the Miss Steians and
• 1:58:02
  Speaker 1: h the Beatles and the Monkeys, and I mean there
• 1:58:07
  Speaker 1: was a lot of groups. And I love all the
• 1:58:09
  Speaker 1: old Motown stuff that was great before we had rap.
• 1:58:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah. I like Motown a lot, a lot.
• 1:58:18
  Speaker 1: Of good stuff, a lot of armadizing. And I never
• 1:58:23
  Speaker 1: got into blues and jazz as much. I was down
• 1:58:29
  Speaker 1: in New Orleans one time and heard a lot of jazz,
• 1:58:34
  Speaker 1: and I think jazz and blues seemed to be kind
• 1:58:37
  Speaker 1: of close. I never was a metallica kind of guy, though,
• 1:58:45
  Speaker 1: So all right, Well, We're just about there, guys. Interesting,
• 1:58:48
  Speaker 1: show fun. I love the place.
• 1:58:55
  Speaker 11: Man.
• 1:58:55
  Speaker 1: I don't know if you or Steve did it or both.
• 1:58:58
  Speaker 4: But Steve did at this time, and I really appreciate him.
• 1:59:04
  Speaker 4: Flat For the last three weeks, it's been.
• 1:59:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Susy died two or three times over the
• 1:59:12
  Speaker 1: last couple of weeks and we just told her walking off.
• 1:59:17
  Speaker 6: But thank you.
• 1:59:18
  Speaker 1: It looks it looks really cool. You guys must think
• 1:59:22
  Speaker 1: a lot when you do this stuff, though, because I
• 1:59:24
  Speaker 1: can't never tell which one of you did it. But
• 1:59:26
  Speaker 1: pretty interesting.
• 1:59:28
  Speaker 4: That's scary, and I.
• 1:59:32
  Speaker 1: Can't picture Steve doing one about prenatal all that without
• 1:59:40
  Speaker 1: looking at me like I was crazy. But like I said,
• 1:59:43
  Speaker 1: the main reason all that came up was from the
• 1:59:47
  Speaker 1: guy's point of view and the family point of view
• 1:59:49
  Speaker 1: of what the women go through, everybody else around them
• 1:59:53
  Speaker 1: goes through. So the happier we make mama or the
• 1:59:59
  Speaker 1: mama to be happier, everybody is going to be around them.
• 2:00:03
  Speaker 1: And unfortunately, with western medicine we don't address that stuff
• 2:00:09
  Speaker 1: very good. Hell, when we were kids, our mom smoked
• 2:00:12
  Speaker 1: and drank and we all turned out almost right. We
• 2:00:21
  Speaker 1: drank out of the water hose and you know, stayed
• 2:00:26
  Speaker 1: outside until we had to come in. We did a
• 2:00:28
  Speaker 1: lot of crazy stuff, all right, guys, Well, it is
• 2:00:30
  Speaker 1: that time of night. I am so grateful for producer
• 2:00:34
  Speaker 1: Steve Bill and Susy. Without them, this show would not
• 2:00:39
  Speaker 1: be anything like it is. We had I think nine
• 2:00:43
  Speaker 1: or ten nations listening to us, pretty good numbers people
• 2:00:49
  Speaker 1: all around the world. And every week I see a
• 2:00:53
  Speaker 1: different device that somebody listened on, and some of them
• 2:00:57
  Speaker 1: I have no idea what they are, but very cool
• 2:01:01
  Speaker 1: stuff and a lot of fun. We thank all of
• 2:01:06
  Speaker 1: you everywhere for listening. We're grateful, We're humbled, and I'm
• 2:01:12
  Speaker 1: sure you appreciate this team like I do. A great,
• 2:01:16
  Speaker 1: great group we got here and then everybody fits a
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  Speaker 1: part of the puzzle as this works wonderful. So anyway,
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  Speaker 1: may God bless you all with happiness, health, keep your
• 2:01:28
  Speaker 1: lives peaceful, free and safe. And as you know, it
• 2:01:34
  Speaker 1: is that time at my cuckoo clocks agree for good Scotch,
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  Speaker 1: good cigars, at good.
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  Speaker 4: Night, good at all you're know everyone, God bless.
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  Speaker 15: Seems the love I've known has always been the most
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  Speaker 15: destructive kind. I guess that's why now I feel so old.
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  Speaker 1: Before my time.
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  Speaker 15: Yester day, when I was young, the taste of life
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  Speaker 15: was sweet as rain upon my tongue. I teased at length,
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  Speaker 15: as if it were a foolish game, the way the
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  Speaker 15: evening breeze may tease a candle flame. The thousand dreams
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  Speaker 15: I dream'd, the splendid things I plann'd, I always built
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  Speaker 15: to last on weakened, shifting sand.
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  Speaker 1: I lived by night and.
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  Speaker 15: Shunned the naked light of day. And only now I
• 2:02:43
  Speaker 15: see how the years ran away yesterday, when I was young,