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Go Low - Cadillac Championship Predictions: Scottie Scheffler, Cameron Young + LIV Golf in trouble? · 3 and Out with John Middlekauff

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Speaker 1: The volume.
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Speaker 2: What is going on? My people? How are we doing?
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Speaker 2: John middlecoffin Little go Lo Pod Today. We got a
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Speaker 2: lot going on in the golf world. We got a
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Speaker 2: couple of weeks, we got a major coming up this week.
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Speaker 2: We got a signature event in Florida. Obviously, the big
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Speaker 2: news in the golfing world over the course of the
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Speaker 2: last seven days has been lived. Last week it was
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Speaker 2: they were gonna shut down. Then they're just gonna make
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Speaker 2: it through the year. Today, officially they postponed an event.
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Speaker 2: Me and Colin went to one last year, so I
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Speaker 2: think I got pretty good perspective on the the operation.
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Speaker 2: Spent a lot of time with their CEO, Scott and
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Speaker 2: the Scott O'Neill in Chicago with Coward Uh The Fitzpatricks
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Speaker 2: won the tournament last week. Really cool, genuine event. I'm
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Speaker 2: definitely gonna get pretty I need, I need to get
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Speaker 2: my juices flowing. So I got some plays this week,
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Speaker 2: some top tens, top twenties in the Trump Durral, which
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Speaker 2: is returning for the first time in like a decade.
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Speaker 2: about McVeigh and Ty Simpson and all that stuff going on.
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Speaker 2: to that and most weeks where we'll be going talking
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Speaker 2: gambling and whatever else is going on in the golfing world.
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Speaker 2: But let's just dive right into live now. I think
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Speaker 2: I have a unique perspective. Obviously, we did some advertising
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Speaker 2: with them last year and the event in Chicago. I
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Speaker 2: flew out to Coward's house, stayed with them, had a
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Speaker 2: few cocktails, a few steak dinners, and we went to
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Speaker 2: the event. And the majority of that event we spent
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Speaker 2: with Scott O'Neill, the CEO, who was really really impressive.
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Speaker 2: I mean I was blown away. I didn't know much
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Speaker 2: about him besides he being a Philly guy and taken
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Speaker 2: over for Greg Norman, and he was really cool. It
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Speaker 2: has a long background and professional sports worked for David
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Speaker 2: Stern and Josh Harris in money management and you know,
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Speaker 2: sports operations in terms of the finance. So him taking
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Speaker 2: the job for the Saudi's piff MBS like, listen, he's
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Speaker 2: not a golf guy, so it was kind of cool
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Speaker 2: to just see this business guy who had a different
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Speaker 2: perspective on it than me, Like, I'm not a live guy.
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Speaker 2: I don't think there's any room for it in a
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Speaker 2: sporting world that is very niche. And let's face it,
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Speaker 2: the only reason this thing exists. You can go back
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Speaker 2: to the USFL in the mid eighties. The reason they
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Speaker 2: were able to get guys like Steve Young, Reggie White,
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Speaker 2: Jim Kelly to sign was money. Right, there was already
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Speaker 2: an established league where people were making millions of dollars,
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Speaker 2: so the only way to steal away star power. And
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Speaker 2: I think the eighties football has some parallels to golf.
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Speaker 2: This isn't some gigantic behemoth that is just unstoppable. I
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Speaker 2: mean PGA Tour, good event gets three four five million people.
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Speaker 2: That this is not pulling from Thursday Night Football getting
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Speaker 2: twenty million people, right, A good NFL game getting twenty
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Speaker 2: thirty million people. Obviously, the playoffs, The Masters peaks at like,
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Speaker 2: you know, eighteen nineteen million. That's when Rory's you know,
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Speaker 2: breaking a ten year major streak or tiger Woods. Most
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Speaker 2: of these Masters, most of these major tournaments, you know,
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Speaker 2: they feel pretty good if they could sniff ten million people.
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Speaker 2: Golf is a small segment of people that has a
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Speaker 2: unique demo. Right. Obviously, their household income of the viewers
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Speaker 2: is much higher than all the other sports, I think
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Speaker 2: by an average of like fifty percent higher. Right. It's
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Speaker 2: why when you watch a golf tournament sometimes the advertisements
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Speaker 2: are Mercedes, our net, Jets, our Rolex is a big sponsor.
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Speaker 2: You're not getting that when you watch an NFL game,
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Speaker 2: a baseball game, of basketball game. So it's just a
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Speaker 2: kind of a different world. But there just aren't that
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Speaker 2: many people that are gonna watch a golf event. So
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Speaker 2: when this league splintered, the only reason they were able
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Speaker 2: to start it, and this is before Scott O'Neil got involved,
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Speaker 2: this was with Greg was because they paid billions of
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Speaker 2: dollars for the talent. The talent didn't actively just go
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Speaker 2: we think this is a better idea. Despite them all
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Speaker 2: saying this, it took Phill two hundred million. You know,
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Speaker 2: DJ and Kopka, Cam Smith and obviously ROM hundreds of
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Speaker 2: millions of dollars. Right, It's reported that Kepka got over
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Speaker 2: one hundred million dollars, DJ one hundred and fifty million dollars,
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Speaker 2: Cam Smith eighty to one hundred million dollars. ROM by
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Speaker 2: all accounts, was like three hundred million dollars. It was
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Speaker 2: reported years ago that Tiger Woods could have got seven
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Speaker 2: eight hundred million dollars to join. He could barely play that.
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Speaker 2: This was post the ankle, So the money they were
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Speaker 2: thrown around just was not only not realistic, no one
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Speaker 2: else would could even fathom. I'm talking hedge funds, venture capitalists.
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Speaker 2: This would only exist with piff, This would only exist
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Speaker 2: with the Sadis. And I don't pretend to know anything
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Speaker 2: about global politics, but clearly the shift, you know, I
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Speaker 2: think I've heard some people say it's easy for them
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Speaker 2: to say the war and Iran. This was decided well
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Speaker 2: before this ever started, that they were going to reallocate
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Speaker 2: some funds in places that were not making money. And
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Speaker 2: there's no way, given their expenses that live could ever
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Speaker 2: make money. And I listen, Scott O'Neil tried to sell
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Speaker 2: me on the team aspect. It's been a huge push
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Speaker 2: by by the live crew and I understand it. Scott
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Speaker 2: O'Neil's not a golf guy. Like I've been watching golf
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Speaker 2: most of my back to childhood. Tiger Woods is my
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Speaker 2: favorite athlete. It's really the only activity slash sport I
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Speaker 2: was ever decent at. So it's like, this is not
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Speaker 2: gonna work. Golf's an individual sport. There's a reason in tennis,
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Speaker 2: like when Serena and Venus played doubles, way more people
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Speaker 2: watch than one of those two when they're playing singles,
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Speaker 2: like no one's watching the doll and Federal and these
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Speaker 2: people play, don't. It's an individual sport. It's why all
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Speaker 2: these events, beside maybe a couple the Ryder Cup, the
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Speaker 2: President's Cup and the Zurich Event that doesn't really get
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Speaker 2: a very good turnout. Golf's not a team game at
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Speaker 2: the professional level, right. This isn't a member guest and
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Speaker 2: the other thing is and Patrick Reid mentioned this when
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Speaker 2: him and Kopka came back, it was, you know, winning
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Speaker 2: some of these events in the DP World Tour shotgun
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Speaker 2: starts aren't doing it for me, right because part of
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Speaker 2: golf is the ebb and flow of a day. That
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Speaker 2: a guy that goes out two hours before the leader,
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Speaker 2: all of a sudden he's leading the tournament. Well, that
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Speaker 2: guy's on hold twelve and the leader's just teeing off there.
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Speaker 2: And you know, or in the Masters on Saturday or Sunday,
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Speaker 2: you know, when Rory was up or Rory was down,
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Speaker 2: it's like, well he's got thirteen and fifteen and sixteen
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Speaker 2: coming up. He can make some Hey, he can turn
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Speaker 2: the tides because he's got birdie holes. The guy leading
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Speaker 2: the tournaments on hole eighteen. And that's not the way
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Speaker 2: live golf works because of the shotgun start. So they
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Speaker 2: tried to throw a huge curveball, but the only reason
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Speaker 2: they were able to throw it was they could get
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Speaker 2: some of these guys to take an astronomical amount of money.
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Speaker 2: And unlike Brandal Shambilee, who's very emotional about this, who
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Speaker 2: I think Brandle is as good as it gets anyone
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Speaker 2: in TV that analyzes the sport basketball, football, baseball, I
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Speaker 2: think he's the cream of the crop. Now I don't agree,
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Speaker 2: like he gets so emotional over the sadi's and everything
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Speaker 2: they're doing, the sports washing, Like I can't speak to
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Speaker 2: EPL and the soccer teams that they're member. I don't
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Speaker 2: watch those sports, but like you can't sports wash a league,
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Speaker 2: no one's watching now. Once you go to the event,
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Speaker 2: it is a cool It was a cool vibe and
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Speaker 2: part of the reason the event I went to in Chicago.
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Speaker 2: You get some people to show up because they do
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Speaker 2: got Bryce d Shamba. Oh, they do got Phil Mickelson.
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Speaker 2: But for you know, as great as Ram should be
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Speaker 2: in theory, I don't think he's getting random people to
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Speaker 2: the golf course. Bryson kind of has become a one
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Speaker 2: to one. But you know, as they've reallocated these funds
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Speaker 2: and by all accounts like the funding is over. They
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Speaker 2: had some ear mark money. Whether he's going to continue
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Speaker 2: to have access to that as the year goes on,
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Speaker 2: only time will tell clearly. You know, reading a couple
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Speaker 2: of articles on the Athletic about this situation, is the
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Speaker 2: local authorities or government or municipalities or whatever it's considered,
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Speaker 2: it was putting in like ten million dollars to the
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Speaker 2: venue to improve the venue and the infrastructure cost to
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Speaker 2: host this tournament, and they're getting a rebate from Live
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Speaker 2: because Live doesn't have the money to go through with it,
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Speaker 2: and they just put it out a statement that it's
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Speaker 2: about the heat and the midsummer. It's like, well, you
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Speaker 2: were planning on it three weeks ago before this all broke,
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Speaker 2: and I think this is the beginning of the end,
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Speaker 2: which last week once it came out that the funding
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Speaker 2: was over, and this was always inevitable because I and
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Speaker 2: again I respect Scott O'Neil, Howie Roseman's good buddies with him.
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Speaker 2: It's one of the things we talked about when I
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Speaker 2: was with him. I think it's like, from a business standpoint,
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Speaker 2: taking a job with these guys that have unlimited money.
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Speaker 2: Even if this fails, if you prove to be a
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Speaker 2: loyal road dog and have a lot of energy and
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Speaker 2: you know good with business, like, they're gonna have a
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Speaker 2: lot of other ventures for you to operate in. But
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Speaker 2: when he says that he wants to get other people
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Speaker 2: to invest, I have a buddy that's in private finance
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Speaker 2: and who was telling me a story a couple of
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Speaker 2: weeks ago when I was in Los Angeles. They were
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Speaker 2: he kind of looked at the books at a very
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Speaker 2: very expensive club in California. He's like, bro, they don't
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Speaker 2: make any money. That's the thing with golf that they
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Speaker 2: have a lot of cash flow. I mean some of
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Speaker 2: these you know, major courses now that have two hundred
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Speaker 2: and three hundred foreigner members that have you know, monthly
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Speaker 2: dues at three four five thousand, the cash flows huge,
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Speaker 2: but their expenses are massive. So this is not some
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Speaker 2: Golf is not a business from a course standpoint where
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Speaker 2: you're like, god, they must be making millions of dollars.
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Speaker 2: That's not really the way it works. And these events
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Speaker 2: are so cost heavy that just in an event, if
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Speaker 2: you and I just ran an event, like it's really
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Speaker 2: really expensive, like what Briggs and Barstool do with the
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Speaker 2: Barstool Classic, they have to get so many sponsors. Now
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Speaker 2: they make money because they get people to pay huge
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Speaker 2: money to join the event. But the reason people are
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Speaker 2: coming out to these events are because of the star power,
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Speaker 2: which are only there because of the money and are
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Speaker 2: not going to be there much longer. Now. I don't
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Speaker 2: know exactly what's gonna happen with Bryson. One of the
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Speaker 2: rumors is that he is willing to just play in
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Speaker 2: the majors and do YouTube golf. I definitely think that's
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Speaker 2: on the table. Dustin Johnson, I could see him retiring.
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Speaker 2: Phil's been Mia forever, Kepka is already back. I think
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Speaker 2: the wild card would be ram who until the wheels
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Speaker 2: completely fall off of this just has too much money
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Speaker 2: in the line, Like, you might as well ride this out.
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Speaker 2: You've already taken all the shit, you might as well
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Speaker 2: get as much as you can. But if the money
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Speaker 2: stops and hey play an event, we don't know if
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Speaker 2: you will be paid. Like, guys just aren't gonna play,
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Speaker 2: and this league will crumble, like all these other leagues
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Speaker 2: historically have crumbled that have tried to compete. And I
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Speaker 2: think USFL is probably the best example. And that was
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Speaker 2: I don't even think you know, I was like born
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Speaker 2: in eighty four and it was right during that time.
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Speaker 2: And what happened within a couple of years, all those
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Speaker 2: guys Jim Kelly's starting quarterback for the Bills, Steve Young's
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Speaker 2: on the San Fransco forty nine ers, or Reggie Whites
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Speaker 2: on the Eagles, and I'm sure I missing other players
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Speaker 2: that were prominent names. That's kind of the equivalent of
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Speaker 2: this now live and piff In, you know, always had
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Speaker 2: more money than that operation. But all those teams went
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Speaker 2: belly up, and this league went belly up because the
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Speaker 2: spickett got turned off. And this is not you couldn't
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Speaker 2: go like if I had. Let's say I was a
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Speaker 2: multi billionaire and I love golf the way I do,
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Speaker 2: and he called me, I bet, there's no way for
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Speaker 2: this venture to ever make any money. Why wouldn't I
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Speaker 2: just pick up the phone and invest in Bryson individually?
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Speaker 2: I say, hey, when this thing goes, I'll help fund
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Speaker 2: some of your ventures. But I don't want the league.
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Speaker 2: I don't want the team golf that doesn't interest anybody,
12:17
Speaker 2: and they've tried to make that a thing, and you can't.
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Speaker 2: When you watch a playoff game, like Jokich right now,
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Speaker 2: he's down in the playoffs in the first round, we
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Speaker 2: have context like he's one of the greatest players of
12:28
Speaker 2: all time. He's out playing a team they're best players
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Speaker 2: out their other backcourt mate just towards acl or Achilles,
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Speaker 2: Like we have context. If you lose Game six in Minnesota,
12:39
Speaker 2: like that's just a bad L and we can relate
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Speaker 2: it to other crazy ls in playoff history, like Josh
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Speaker 2: Allen going down this year in the second round. There's
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Speaker 2: context there when Matt Fitzpatrick takes down Scotti Scheffler a
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Speaker 2: couple of weeks ago in Harbortown, Like that event's been
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Speaker 2: going on my entire life. So winning that event, taking
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Speaker 2: down the number one golf for uh, we just know
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Speaker 2: it matters. That's part of sports, right, Winning your division
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Speaker 2: in baseball means something. Winning a major, you know, in tennis,
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Speaker 2: in the French Open, the US Open, whatever, winning a
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Speaker 2: glib event beside making a ton of money means nothing
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Speaker 2: to anyone, including the players. So this league, which you
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Speaker 2: know some would argue, never really mattered to the Sadi's
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Speaker 2: and they just wanted in on this and this was
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Speaker 2: their fastest route because Jay Monahan shunned them. I eventually think,
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Speaker 2: if I was a betting man that whenever this thing disappears,
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Speaker 2: that Brian Rolapp and the PGA Tour and the powers
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Speaker 2: that be will get in business with the Sadis, and
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Speaker 2: the Sadis will be interested in getting into business with them. Now,
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Speaker 2: how the player program of these guys coming back, how
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Speaker 2: that works? Who knows? Right? Do I envision Kopka what
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Speaker 2: he had to go through? You know, Bryson m cutting
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Speaker 2: a five million dollar check to charity. It feels like no.
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Speaker 2: But you could also say five million dollars to Kopka.
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Speaker 2: If he just made one hundred and twenty five million
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Speaker 2: dollars to get back where he wants to play, isn't
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Speaker 2: that big a deal? You know, it's not as crazy
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Speaker 2: as just you're just paying five million dollars. Now there
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Speaker 2: is no debate, and this has been talked about. This
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Speaker 2: is the best thing that ever happened to all the players.
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Speaker 2: Everyone became filthy rich. The guys that left and had
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Speaker 2: the balls to take the arrows and just take the
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Speaker 2: upfront cash for a league that didn't matter that they
14:35
Speaker 2: took a lot of shit. And then everyone that stayed
14:38
Speaker 2: everyone's like they did a noble thing. And I do
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Speaker 2: think early on Rory's heart was in the right place
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Speaker 2: and he fought for it, but financially he benefited him
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Speaker 2: and Scott, I mean the two guys that played the
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Speaker 2: best over the last couple of years. Scotty's made a
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Speaker 2: hundred million dollars the last two years. Scotty's like Lebron
14:53
Speaker 2: or Steph Curry or Patrick Mahomes like the amount of
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Speaker 2: money Matt Fitzpatrick watching him being interviewed with his brother.
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Speaker 2: I bet within a five year span if he plays
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Speaker 2: at this level over the last couple of years, this
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Speaker 2: year and the next year, like you're talking about probably
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Speaker 2: eighty one hundred million dollars on and off the course.
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Speaker 2: This was a sport that not that long ago, the
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Speaker 2: purses in the same events went from eight million to
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Speaker 2: twenty million. So you went from winning one point two
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Speaker 2: million or one point five million. If you win, you
15:24
Speaker 2: get four four and a half. If you get like
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Speaker 2: fifth or six, you're talking five six, seven hundred thousand dollars.
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Speaker 2: So the financial winfall in a sport full of guys
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Speaker 2: that were already relatively rich if you were a good player,
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Speaker 2: has taken them to a different stratus sphere and none
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Speaker 2: of this exists. If NBS is right hand man, I
15:46
Speaker 2: think he's like essentially, the CEO Yasser wasn't a lover
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Speaker 2: of golf. He wanted to be get in on the Masters.
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Speaker 2: He wanted a part of, you know, the infrastructure of
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Speaker 2: pro golf, and they would not let it. And he
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Speaker 2: was lucky enough to have something that has unlimited money.
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Speaker 2: And yeah, here's ear marks five billion dollars, go have fun.
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Speaker 2: I guess that's not normal. Like the other thing I've
16:13
Speaker 2: seen is like a lot of startups lose money early on. Well,
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Speaker 2: I would imagine a lot of startups that are being
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Speaker 2: funded Ubers, any of the social media companies, Netflix, whoever.
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Speaker 2: It's thinking you can get a market that either doesn't
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Speaker 2: exist or is poorly run and control it. That was
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Speaker 2: never going to be the case here because the PGA
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Speaker 2: Tour had the market corner. It's like, hey, let's start
16:38
Speaker 2: a football league, not a minor league, but a pro
16:41
Speaker 2: football league to go up against the NFL. People be like,
16:44
Speaker 2: are you an idiot? Like even if the Saudis were interested,
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Speaker 2: Like that's that's a complete waste of money. That's what
16:51
Speaker 2: this was. And to get people to come to these events,
16:55
Speaker 2: I forget it was either a country music star or
16:59
Speaker 2: like the Illuminee or like every single event they have
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Speaker 2: they have a massive, major musical act that plays after
17:06
Speaker 2: the tournament is done at like six or seven at night,
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Speaker 2: Like what do you think they're paying for that? Like
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Speaker 2: that's they've had to manipulate all this to even garner
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Speaker 2: to get Sometimes there are television ratings on Fox Sports
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Speaker 2: like fifty sixty thousand people. I love watching golf on television.
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Speaker 2: Love it. Watch the majority of events every single year,
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Speaker 2: Like even last week, which is probably the least watched event,
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Speaker 2: I watched the majority of Sunday to see if those
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Speaker 2: guys could pull it off. It's it just doesn't matter.
17:37
Speaker 2: I mean, the biggest moment Live has had besides signing
17:40
Speaker 2: players was Anthony Kim winning. It was like this organic,
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Speaker 2: genuine this guy overcoming the addiction and doing that, and
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Speaker 2: that was had nothing to do with money. That this
17:53
Speaker 2: was a guy that was just kind of done. And
17:56
Speaker 2: I just think that it's a good lesson. Part of
17:59
Speaker 2: the reason that sports fans exist and we pay attention
18:04
Speaker 2: to this stuff is the context and the history of
18:08
Speaker 2: the leagues, right, you know, if you win the Stanley Cup,
18:12
Speaker 2: how important that is carrying that thing around? There is
18:18
Speaker 2: an understanding, there's no understanding with any of this. Well, John,
18:22
Speaker 2: everyone had to start once upon a time. Well, yeah,
18:25
Speaker 2: all these sports started a long time ago. Michigan and
18:28
Speaker 2: Ohio State have been playing for one hundred years. Duke
18:31
Speaker 2: and North Carolina have been playing for a long fucking time.
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Speaker 2: When I watched the Yankees, I know Babe Ruth was
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Speaker 2: on the team in the nineteen twenties, you know, so
18:42
Speaker 2: that's lives existed. They give out some fake trophy and
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Speaker 2: it just means nothing. So I can't speak to the
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Speaker 2: exact allocations and the reasoning everyone is confident that talks.
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Speaker 2: No one actually knows besides the fact that this never
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Speaker 2: made any sense. And if you are going to look
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Speaker 2: where a couple of years ago Lowry and Rory won.
21:56
Speaker 2: And it was cool, these two childhood friends from Ireland.
22:00
Speaker 2: It was just it was an awesome moment. They won
22:02
Speaker 2: it on eighteen maybe they went to extra holes, I
22:04
Speaker 2: can't remember exactly. It was cool. They have a karaoke
22:07
Speaker 2: after there was nothing like this where Matt Fitzpatrick, who
22:11
Speaker 2: is clearly one of the best players right now in
22:13
Speaker 2: the world, who is scolding hot. He finished second at
22:17
Speaker 2: the Players, he won valast Bar. Honestly, he's a bad
22:20
Speaker 2: Thursday away from you know, probably finishing top five or
22:24
Speaker 2: six of the Masters. He finished hot t eighteen, he
22:27
Speaker 2: won Harbor Town where he took down Scottie and extra holes,
22:31
Speaker 2: and then he wins with his brother after hitting one
22:34
Speaker 2: of the most clutch bunker shots you'll ever see on
22:37
Speaker 2: eighteen to give his brother a tap in which if
22:39
Speaker 2: you're listening to this, you probably know his brother is
22:41
Speaker 2: now on the PGA Tour. And this isn't some you know,
22:45
Speaker 2: handout free PGA Tour card going around. His brother won
22:49
Speaker 2: the dp World Tour within the last like three or
22:52
Speaker 2: I think like six weeks in India. He was a
22:54
Speaker 2: four year player at Wake Forest cam Young played there,
22:58
Speaker 2: Zalatorus played there. Like that's a real program. This guy's
23:01
Speaker 2: a real player. Watch him with his brother, Like, this
23:05
Speaker 2: guy's a legitimate pro golfer. But it's really difficult to
23:08
Speaker 2: get a PGA Tour card. And you know, if he
23:11
Speaker 2: continued to have success from the dp World Tour. I
23:13
Speaker 2: think the top ten guys get a tour card, but
23:16
Speaker 2: you win this event, you had to win this event.
23:18
Speaker 2: Like there's not like top three or four guys. You
23:20
Speaker 2: have to win this event. Obviously it doesn't matter for Fitzpatrick.
23:24
Speaker 2: But when he tapped in and his brother, the emotion
23:26
Speaker 2: he had again this is the Anthony Kim thing. There
23:29
Speaker 2: was like a genuine, organic, really really cool moment. Then
23:33
Speaker 2: you factor in there to brothers and they had a
23:38
Speaker 2: huge lead going into Sunday. I don't want to say imploding,
23:41
Speaker 2: but they were definitely falling apart. I think they doubled twelve,
23:45
Speaker 2: they bogied fourteen, They were tied for the lead on
23:47
Speaker 2: the back nine. Fitzpatrick missed a couple putts. Alex the
23:52
Speaker 2: brother had one of the great kind of like flop
23:57
Speaker 2: shot dcells on thirteen you'll ever see to give Matt
24:03
Speaker 2: not an easy par putt, but one that was makeable,
24:08
Speaker 2: which he made. It was an unreal honestly, was probably
24:12
Speaker 2: better than the Fitzpatrick bunker shot. So when he gets
24:16
Speaker 2: his PGA Tour card, he's playing this week. I think
24:19
Speaker 2: he gets into the PGA the Open and the players,
24:24
Speaker 2: I'm not sure about them. I don't think he gets
24:25
Speaker 2: into the Masters, But how cool would that be that
24:29
Speaker 2: you get to win an event with your brother that
24:32
Speaker 2: solidifies his status on the tour that you play on
24:36
Speaker 2: where I would imagine for a long time. And I
24:38
Speaker 2: watched the press conference after. You know, one thing Alex
24:43
Speaker 2: said that, you know, part of being me is always
24:46
Speaker 2: getting asked about Matt. How's Matt doing, how's his game,
24:48
Speaker 2: what's it looking like? How do you like him for
24:50
Speaker 2: the Masters? How how's he looking going into the major season?
24:54
Speaker 2: That was really cool to watch Matt win so and
24:56
Speaker 2: so tournament. That was God, Matt almost had the players.
25:00
Speaker 2: And now you can shake that a little bit, like
25:02
Speaker 2: people like, hey, you're on the PGA Tour two. You
25:05
Speaker 2: can be your own guy. I've always thought like it's
25:09
Speaker 2: not an enviable situation. Obviously, when your parents or some
25:13
Speaker 2: of these famous like Tom Brady's kids or Michael Jordan's kids,
25:17
Speaker 2: it's that's a tough position to be in. Now they
25:19
Speaker 2: get a lot of benefits. You know, they get to
25:22
Speaker 2: start on third base financially for sure. But there is
25:25
Speaker 2: a any of anyone listening that knows a kid whose
25:30
Speaker 2: dad is a very very successful person like they are
25:35
Speaker 2: typically the alpha in the room and the kids just
25:38
Speaker 2: kind of follow his lead. And it's it's hard to
25:40
Speaker 2: break off from that when it's a brother situation, especially
25:43
Speaker 2: when it's one thing, if Alex Fitzpatrick was working at
25:47
Speaker 2: Goldman Sachs or had his own HVAC, it just like
25:50
Speaker 2: lived his own life, right. No, he's trying to be
25:53
Speaker 2: a professional goal for two and his brother is taking
25:56
Speaker 2: down Scottie Scheffler and extra holes. You know, it's like,
25:59
Speaker 2: that's that's not a former major champion, a guy that's
26:02
Speaker 2: gonna be favored going into all these majors and to
26:05
Speaker 2: kind of become your own guy, grind your ass off.
26:08
Speaker 2: And Matt said in the press conference that you know,
26:11
Speaker 2: he's like, we don't really play much anymore, right, Our
26:13
Speaker 2: schedules are way off. He's in Europe playing on the
26:16
Speaker 2: DP World Tour. We definitely never play competitive golf with
26:20
Speaker 2: each other because we're never in the same events, and
26:22
Speaker 2: if we are, we're definitely not paired together. He's like,
26:25
Speaker 2: I was blown away by his improvement watching him up close,
26:28
Speaker 2: because they go best ball two of the days and
26:31
Speaker 2: alternate shot two of the days, and he's like this
26:34
Speaker 2: guy's a legit pro. And I watched him thinking, like
26:37
Speaker 2: he's pretty genuine saying this. And if you watch those
26:40
Speaker 2: two guys play on Sunday and on Saturday, like Alex
26:44
Speaker 2: was carrying his weight. This wasn't one of those situations
26:46
Speaker 2: like if you put me or you with some plus
26:49
Speaker 2: five handicap and that guy's probably gonna carry us throughout
26:51
Speaker 2: the day. Alex is legit and what I mean, it's
26:56
Speaker 2: gotta be one of the better brother combinations in the
26:59
Speaker 2: history of the sport. You know, we've seen it, you know,
27:04
Speaker 2: the Mannings, the Watts, like this is this is really
27:09
Speaker 2: really impressive, Like his parents should be really really proud.
27:13
Speaker 2: Let's dive into Durau this weekend. A tournament that happened
27:17
Speaker 2: has not happened since twenty sixteen. That since from nineteen
27:22
Speaker 2: sixty two to twenty sixteen they played there. And I
27:24
Speaker 2: was reading Sobol's article today it went under renovation in
27:28
Speaker 2: twenty fourteen. Now I don't I can barely remember five
27:33
Speaker 2: years ago, let alone some events in like twenty fourteen
27:36
Speaker 2: fifteen at Duau. But I've watched enough guys on YouTube
27:39
Speaker 2: golf play this course. It looks really hard and one
27:44
Speaker 2: thing I noticed in both the times. Evan Thompson was
27:47
Speaker 2: one of the guys on YouTube, and I forget the
27:49
Speaker 2: other guy. The wind was pumping. It is also depending
27:53
Speaker 2: on how they play, the teas going to be the
27:55
Speaker 2: longest or one of the longest tournaments they play all
27:59
Speaker 2: season long. It's like seventy seven hundred yards. So you
28:02
Speaker 2: first go long hitter, and you look at the last
28:05
Speaker 2: two winners in twenty sixteen, in twenty fifteen or Adam
28:09
Speaker 2: Scott and Dustin Johnson, so this is an immediate you
28:12
Speaker 2: gotta hit the ball along. Like I don't like Russell
28:15
Speaker 2: Henley in this event. I don't like taking a flyer
28:17
Speaker 2: on Joel Damon in this event. This is a big
28:20
Speaker 2: boy course. Now, Rory's not there, x Ander's not there,
28:23
Speaker 2: Ledviig's not there. Some guys that's games would have a
28:27
Speaker 2: very good chance to translate or not even playing. So
28:30
Speaker 2: Scotty's the heavy heavy favorite. But yeah, like it's not
28:33
Speaker 2: that fun to take Scotty Scheffler three to one, get
28:36
Speaker 2: minus one fifty top ten odds, Like I just I'm
28:38
Speaker 2: not doing that now, not saying I won't for some
28:41
Speaker 2: of these majors coming up, but not this week, and
28:44
Speaker 2: I also think it's hard. You know, it's the EBB
28:47
Speaker 2: and flaw of the seasons. Feels a little weird right now.
28:50
Speaker 2: I don't feel comfortable like taking one of these guys
28:54
Speaker 2: to win, but I would say Cam Young plus one
28:57
Speaker 2: twenty five this is all in hard rock bet and
28:59
Speaker 2: j Nap plus two fifty to top ten. Those are
29:03
Speaker 2: auto hammers for me. Both guys super long having great seasons,
29:09
Speaker 2: come in with a ton of momentum. So if you
29:11
Speaker 2: want to take Cam Young, I think it's like thirteen
29:13
Speaker 2: to one to win, No issue with that, but I
29:17
Speaker 2: think plus one twenty five auto hammer. I already got
29:20
Speaker 2: a wager on him for the PGA in a couple weeks.
29:22
Speaker 2: I think I got him at twenty two to one.
29:25
Speaker 2: He's auto hammer all the majors this year. But Cam
29:28
Speaker 2: Young plus one twenty five top ten, Jake Napp better
29:31
Speaker 2: odds plus two to fifty auto hammer, another guy I'm
29:35
Speaker 2: gonna get a little conservative with. If you want to
29:38
Speaker 2: take him top ten, no issue. If you want to
29:41
Speaker 2: get really aggressive top five, don't totally hate it. But
29:44
Speaker 2: if you can get plus hard rock bet is plus
29:46
Speaker 2: one sixty five for Gary Woodland, who is playing out
29:50
Speaker 2: of his mind. Ever since he went on the Golf
29:52
Speaker 2: Channel and talked about his PTSD and his issues with
29:57
Speaker 2: the surgery, dude's been balling. Honestly. I watch him at
30:00
Speaker 2: the Masters, who's playing really well until they kind of
30:02
Speaker 2: fell apart on Saturday. Gary Woodland plus one, sixty five,
30:05
Speaker 2: Top twenty. I'm going with it if I was gonna
30:08
Speaker 2: take a little flyer on a guy to win with
30:11
Speaker 2: some sexy odds. You know, Florida golf. I've never played it,
30:15
Speaker 2: but clearly it's a lot different for some of these
30:17
Speaker 2: guys that come from Dallas, come from Scottsdale, come from Vegas.
30:20
Speaker 2: Keegan Bradley has lived in Florida for like fifteen plus years.
30:24
Speaker 2: So this is a guy who's played this course, who's
30:26
Speaker 2: comfortable on the grass, who hits the ball more than
30:29
Speaker 2: far enough. Sixty to one as a little bit of
30:32
Speaker 2: a flyer, don't hate it. Five to one to top ten,
30:35
Speaker 2: don't hate that one either. So my auto hammer's two
30:38
Speaker 2: top tens, Cam Young Jake Knapp Top twenty, Gary Woodland
30:42
Speaker 2: and a little bit of a winter flyer Keegan Bradley
30:45
Speaker 2: sixty to one. Let's just out some mailbag questions. I
31:01
Speaker 2: looked on the Instagram. I don't go to it enough,
31:04
Speaker 2: but I'm gonna definitely try to more often now at
31:07
Speaker 2: go loopod at golopod is the Instagram fire In the
31:09
Speaker 2: DMS questions answer here, we will start with Jamal. If
31:14
Speaker 2: Tiger currently had nineteen majors instead of fifteen, do you
31:18
Speaker 2: think he would have retired from pro golf? Is trying
31:21
Speaker 2: to break the record for most majors? The reason he
31:24
Speaker 2: still plays at fifty. I don't think it is at all.
31:28
Speaker 2: I think the reason he is, I mean clearly addicted
31:33
Speaker 2: to pills that help his paying go away so he
31:35
Speaker 2: can work out and play golf is he's addicted to
31:38
Speaker 2: playing golf and working out. I think he would still,
31:41
Speaker 2: at fifty years old, play golf, practice at golf, try
31:46
Speaker 2: to get his body in a good enough shape to
31:48
Speaker 2: play any major tournament because he's a golf addict, and
31:52
Speaker 2: unlike football or basketball, like in theory, you can keep
31:56
Speaker 2: playing golf. Jack won a major at forty five, Phil
31:58
Speaker 2: one one at fifty. You know, if Tiger had never
32:01
Speaker 2: gotten the car accident and messed up his ankle, I
32:04
Speaker 2: think there's a pretty good chance he wins another major,
32:07
Speaker 2: but I think he's kind of come to terms he's
32:09
Speaker 2: never gonna win another major, and now that he's in rehab,
32:13
Speaker 2: who knows how this. I think he just likes like
32:16
Speaker 2: it's all he's ever done. It's who he is, is
32:19
Speaker 2: like inside his soul, that's what makes him go, and
32:23
Speaker 2: I think working out has become that as well. Right.
32:27
Speaker 2: I think those are just like beside Charlie and Sam,
32:29
Speaker 2: his kids and his new girl, which you never know
32:33
Speaker 2: with Tiger can have a new girlfriend at any moment.
32:35
Speaker 2: So I would if you said, would you give Trump's
32:39
Speaker 2: X and Tiger over under another year dating, I'd probably
32:43
Speaker 2: take the under. But I definitely just think he it
32:46
Speaker 2: has nothing to do with money with majors. I think
32:50
Speaker 2: it's just all he knows. It's all he knows, and
32:54
Speaker 2: for most of us, there's some balance in your life,
32:57
Speaker 2: even if you are addictive personality and love doing whatever
33:02
Speaker 2: you're doing professionally, or you have personal hobbies that you
33:06
Speaker 2: love rock climbing or whatever it may be. I think
33:09
Speaker 2: he's run so much deeper in that with Tiger. I
33:12
Speaker 2: think it's his entire identity and I totally understand why
33:15
Speaker 2: I was watching the Elvis documentary a couple of days. Really,
33:19
Speaker 2: I watched it over a couple of day period. But
33:21
Speaker 2: like Tiger was addicted to pills, you could see it
33:23
Speaker 2: on his face. But like performing and singing and playing live,
33:28
Speaker 2: like that's who he was. He was a performer until
33:32
Speaker 2: he died. Like he was playing three times a week,
33:35
Speaker 2: sometimes like multiple times a day, because that's just by
33:39
Speaker 2: that point in time, he was filthy rich. It's just
33:41
Speaker 2: like that fills his cup. And I think Tiger with
33:44
Speaker 2: a golf club on his hand at a golf course,
33:46
Speaker 2: practicing like he's a notorious practicer. Like I would imagine
33:51
Speaker 2: if you ask Peyton and Tom and Drew what they
33:54
Speaker 2: missed the most. I bet it's not like throwing a
33:58
Speaker 2: touchdown pass the red zone. I bet it's like, you
34:01
Speaker 2: know what I missed Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday, the game planning,
34:05
Speaker 2: the preparation, the getting with my quarterback coach and OC
34:09
Speaker 2: and building the game plan and working through it throughout
34:12
Speaker 2: the week. Like I think Tiger loved the fucking grind.
34:17
Speaker 2: His his Hall of Fame speech was really really good.
34:21
Speaker 2: And the thing that you'll I'll never forget from that
34:23
Speaker 2: speech was like the thing with golf is sometimes you
34:28
Speaker 2: just got to dig it out from the mud. Dig
34:29
Speaker 2: it out from the dirt, I think was his exact words.
34:32
Speaker 2: I think he loved that, just figuring it out, grinding it.
34:37
Speaker 2: I mean he was notorious for having like get up
34:40
Speaker 2: at six am, work out, eat, hit balls, putt eat play,
34:47
Speaker 2: work out again, hit some more balls, play basketball, go
34:51
Speaker 2: to bed. I mean that was like the defining You know,
34:55
Speaker 2: Tiger's obviously defined by his winning. I think, so what
35:00
Speaker 2: goes hand in hand with that was like all time
35:03
Speaker 2: grinder on and off the field. What do you say?
35:07
Speaker 2: What do you have to say for your d Chambeau prediction.
35:10
Speaker 2: I think one of the things he's gonna have to
35:12
Speaker 2: improve in order to win at Augusta his attitude every
35:16
Speaker 2: time he doesn't do well, either's a sad puppy dog
35:19
Speaker 2: look on his face or he makes excuses. What are
35:22
Speaker 2: your thoughts? I would say he's the number one front
35:25
Speaker 2: runner in golf. When things are going well, he's like
35:29
Speaker 2: a gladiator out there, you know, pumping up the crowd.
35:33
Speaker 2: He's got like this Arnold Palmer, Lee Trevino talking to kids,
35:36
Speaker 2: high fiving. He's the life of the fucking party. He
35:40
Speaker 2: starts going the other way. That baby draw turns into
35:44
Speaker 2: a hook and he's screaming at the ball, he's pouting.
35:48
Speaker 2: He is If things go bad, they go really bad.
35:51
Speaker 2: So I don't even think it's just Augusta. You know,
35:55
Speaker 2: he's just a very fickle player. When things are on,
35:59
Speaker 2: he's on. When they're off, it's a nightmare. So and
36:04
Speaker 2: I don't think, you know, Bryce's not twenty two. You're
36:07
Speaker 2: talking about what with Bryson thirty years old? Thirty one
36:10
Speaker 2: years old? Like, I don't know how much his attitude
36:13
Speaker 2: is changing moving forward. I think kind of is what
36:16
Speaker 2: he is. Probably never pick him to win Augusta again,
36:21
Speaker 2: that was my bad. Do I think he could one day? Yes?
36:25
Speaker 2: One thing that's pretty clear at Augusta it takes touch.
36:29
Speaker 2: And one underrated part about Rory in this like second
36:33
Speaker 2: iteration of his stardom over the last three or four years,
36:37
Speaker 2: he's improved dramatically with a wedge in his hand and
36:40
Speaker 2: he has a ton of touch. I wouldn't call him
36:42
Speaker 2: Phil Mickelson. I wouldn't call him Tiger in his prime.
36:44
Speaker 2: I wouldn't even say Scottie. But he's pretty good. And
36:48
Speaker 2: you watch Bryson, there's just the power game. The clubs
36:51
Speaker 2: are all the same length, so the attitude, you're one
36:57
Speaker 2: hundred percent right, He's He's not one of those guys
37:00
Speaker 2: I remember was like Steve Elkington or someone said years ago.
37:06
Speaker 2: I think this might have been after his injury, so
37:08
Speaker 2: it might have been twenty one or twenty two. Tiger
37:11
Speaker 2: got a ten on the par three twelfth at Augusta.
37:15
Speaker 2: He then birdied five of the last six holes, and
37:18
Speaker 2: he's like nothing. No stretch of golf defines Tiger Woods
37:23
Speaker 2: more than that is he just got a ten's he
37:26
Speaker 2: was out of the tournament before he even got the ten.
37:28
Speaker 2: He was just playing for pride and he could just
37:31
Speaker 2: lock in and just the laser focus. I think Scott
37:34
Speaker 2: he's really good at staying focused. Bryce is just not.
37:39
Speaker 2: And the rail he can just train can come off
37:41
Speaker 2: the tracks fast. I get that tracking a golf ball
37:45
Speaker 2: isn't easy, but CBS camera coverage at the Masters has
37:49
Speaker 2: been rough, to say the least. That said, I have
37:52
Speaker 2: always thought they were the gold standard of golf coverage.
37:54
Speaker 2: Curious that we can use two questions. Do you see
37:58
Speaker 2: Kissner shit on the mask and then walk it back?
38:02
Speaker 2: Do you think that was his partners at the Golf
38:05
Speaker 2: Channel telling him to do or the high ups at Augusta.
38:08
Speaker 2: Side note, he totally nailed it. I thought that was
38:12
Speaker 2: one of the more raw and more authentic moments in
38:17
Speaker 2: the history of golf media because this guy who's never
38:20
Speaker 2: sat on the other side has always been a player.
38:23
Speaker 2: As a player, you don't really know.
38:25
Speaker 1: What's going on.
38:26
Speaker 2: You're not during Augusta. If you're playing in the tournament,
38:28
Speaker 2: you're not paying attention to the golf trackers and shots.
38:33
Speaker 2: Now for us the viewer, we don't really know how
38:35
Speaker 2: behind they were. But he as he said, I'm doing
38:38
Speaker 2: radio and I look, I'm like, what is this is insane?
38:42
Speaker 2: He kind of let the cat out of the back
38:44
Speaker 2: and CBS a couple of their cameramen were kicked off
38:51
Speaker 2: the crew for reselling their tickets. I guess CBS crew
38:56
Speaker 2: members get free tickets. Clearly, you're not allowed to resell
39:00
Speaker 2: the kind of understand I mean, you're not talking about
39:03
Speaker 2: Jim nat this is These aren't multi millionaires. I'm probably like,
39:05
Speaker 2: I could make however much thousands of dollars reselling these tickets.
39:09
Speaker 2: Don't blame them, but Augusta. Don't play that and that's
39:13
Speaker 2: where I think you get to Kissner. I think Kisner
39:15
Speaker 2: was raw real and thought like this is a joke.
39:19
Speaker 2: But Augusta doesn't mess around. And while he doesn't work
39:23
Speaker 2: for CBS, I could see NBC. I could see Augusta
39:28
Speaker 2: calling NBC, CBS and potentially Kevin Kissner directly. He lives
39:33
Speaker 2: in Georgia. He went to Georgia, and I've watched some
39:37
Speaker 2: clips with him and Riggs. He plays Augusta like as
39:41
Speaker 2: he should. You know, he's a PGA guy, lives there.
39:43
Speaker 2: I'm sure he's got friends that are members that even
39:47
Speaker 2: though it was CBS's fault, not Augusta's, that does make
39:50
Speaker 2: the masters look bad and they don't allow that. It's
39:54
Speaker 2: just not going to be tolerated. So if I was
39:56
Speaker 2: a betting man, whether it was direct or indirect, I
40:00
Speaker 2: think that came from Augusta that you gotta you gotta
40:04
Speaker 2: walk this back. This is you can't say that, and
40:08
Speaker 2: it's not worth it to him to like totally shit
40:11
Speaker 2: on CBS if it's gonna make Augusta mad, which is
40:14
Speaker 2: a place where I would imagine he wants to go
40:17
Speaker 2: and hang out and will keep going. But do I
40:21
Speaker 2: think that he walked it back because CBS reached out
40:24
Speaker 2: to NBC. No could I see NBC even though they
40:30
Speaker 2: don't have the masters, they probably have a good relationship.
40:33
Speaker 2: Maybe some executives either are members there or close that
40:38
Speaker 2: potentially for sure. But if I was a betting man,
40:42
Speaker 2: I would say Augusta might have just reached out directly
40:45
Speaker 2: to him. Even though Rory's final shot on eighteen from
40:52
Speaker 2: the trees, they we didn't know where the ball could
40:55
Speaker 2: have gotten fucking out of bounce. He could have hit
40:57
Speaker 2: it to Athens. We had no clue and I didn't
41:01
Speaker 2: notice this in real time, but I guess you didn't
41:04
Speaker 2: even see the ball going the hole the angle I
41:06
Speaker 2: mean it was. It was an embarrassing performance by CBS,
41:11
Speaker 2: which I think they got a tongue lashing from Augusta.
41:13
Speaker 2: I'm sure that this will never be tolerated again. My
41:18
Speaker 2: wife and I are considering going on a trip in
41:21
Speaker 2: early June, and Phoenix is on the list look into
41:25
Speaker 2: golf and also have something for her to do, like
41:27
Speaker 2: a spot. I don't mind the heat for golf like you,
41:31
Speaker 2: but was wondering if going at that time would be
41:34
Speaker 2: worth it weatherwise or going later in the year. Like
41:36
Speaker 2: October would be more enjoyable, or there's a spot you'd
41:40
Speaker 2: recommend that time of year. I would say October be ideal,
41:45
Speaker 2: especially if it's thirty degrees where you're living in Inde.
41:49
Speaker 2: You know, it could be eighty degrees here. June can
41:51
Speaker 2: be hit or miss, Like you're not guaranteed to get
41:53
Speaker 2: one hundred and fifteen degrees. It could be ninety seven, right,
41:57
Speaker 2: but it also could be one hundred and ten. So
42:00
Speaker 2: the one difference of going in June. In October, you
42:03
Speaker 2: could play TPC Scottsdale, you could play Greyhawk, you could
42:05
Speaker 2: play any of the sweet public courses for way cheaper.
42:11
Speaker 2: I mean you're talking one hundred and fifty dollars where
42:14
Speaker 2: you come in October, you're talking five hundred dollars. So
42:18
Speaker 2: part of summer golf in Arizona that has a ton
42:23
Speaker 2: of elite public courses you play for cheap. So listen,
42:28
Speaker 2: I don't mind the heat. It's just somewhat of a
42:30
Speaker 2: coin flip. You could easily have a ninety seven degree day,
42:33
Speaker 2: which is hot all over the country. You could also
42:36
Speaker 2: have one hundred and ten degree day. I mean today
42:38
Speaker 2: it's like seventy eight eighty degrees. It's perfect. I might
42:41
Speaker 2: go hit some balls later tonight, but yeah, I would
42:46
Speaker 2: do the summer. It gets a lot more expensive for
42:50
Speaker 2: everything you're doing. It's just a lot cheaper around here,
42:52
Speaker 2: a little more mellow around here. If you're coming to
42:55
Speaker 2: Scottsdale in June, I always love this shows you how
42:59
Speaker 2: many retired rich people there are. It's like everyone gets
43:02
Speaker 2: out of town in June, July and August. Do they
43:05
Speaker 2: have to work? Like, don't do they have to? They
43:08
Speaker 2: can just leave. It's like they just they just go
43:10
Speaker 2: to their house up in the mountains somewhere. It's like, well,
43:13
Speaker 2: you know, those people either own the company or don't
43:16
Speaker 2: do anything. Because even me, I obviously I can record
43:19
Speaker 2: from other places, but like sometimes I just can't leave forever.
43:23
Speaker 2: So yeah, these guys just take off for like four months. Snowbirds.
43:27
Speaker 2: I honestly, I'd never heard of that term before moving here.
43:30
Speaker 2: Oh the snowbirds. They're here from October, you know, to
43:34
Speaker 2: late May or early April, and then they're gone. Must be nice.
43:39
Speaker 2: H there's a Ryder Cup question. I think I got
43:42
Speaker 2: this question before. Who do you think the captain will be?
43:45
Speaker 2: Could we run it back with Keegan I would imagine
43:48
Speaker 2: Keegan just said, no, I'm not gonna I want to
43:50
Speaker 2: play on the team, I'm not gonna do it. It
43:52
Speaker 2: probably feels pretty embarrassed. I think it's, looking back, probably
43:57
Speaker 2: pretty unfair to try to do what they did, ask
44:00
Speaker 2: a current player whose entire aspirations are to play on
44:03
Speaker 2: the team. He was justified to be on the team
44:06
Speaker 2: last year, but didn't take himself, which was the right move,
44:11
Speaker 2: and then obviously everything that went down, so maybe maybe
44:13
Speaker 2: he wouldn't have got the little over his head. I
44:17
Speaker 2: think Hegan will get the job again when he's like
44:19
Speaker 2: fifty years old. But you know, Jim Furick's kind of
44:23
Speaker 2: the safe one. I personally like I'd mix that shit up,
44:27
Speaker 2: you know, I fuck, I'd call Phil, I say let's
44:31
Speaker 2: let's Tiger just doesn't want to do it. And now
44:33
Speaker 2: he wouldn't do it. But I thought Keegan was made
44:37
Speaker 2: it way more interesting like Jim Furick and so boring.
44:41
Speaker 2: And I respect the hell out of Jim Furick, but
44:44
Speaker 2: that's pretty boring. I'm listening to your master's recap. Not
44:47
Speaker 2: sure if you touched on it, but Rory was allowed
44:49
Speaker 2: to play Augusta for three straight weeks. So many of
44:53
Speaker 2: his t shots have to be so daunting. How much
44:55
Speaker 2: better must he feel standing over the ball opposed to
44:58
Speaker 2: a guy other guys on the team. He was able
45:01
Speaker 2: to take those eight or nine times the last couple
45:04
Speaker 2: of weeks, I tend to overswing a little free at
45:07
Speaker 2: my home course, which Rory called august after winning. They
45:10
Speaker 2: gotta do something right. Well, One, he's a former champion.
45:15
Speaker 2: You're a former champion. You can go whenever you want.
45:18
Speaker 2: All these other guys are allowed access to the course,
45:21
Speaker 2: Like if Xander, if Tommy fleet would, if Bryson, if
45:24
Speaker 2: these guys want to go play Augusta, they can go
45:27
Speaker 2: play Augusta. Plus, this is the one major where they
45:30
Speaker 2: play every single year. So like, how many times has
45:34
Speaker 2: Jordan Speith played Augusta in his life? How many times
45:37
Speaker 2: is Justin Thomas or Tommy Fleetwood or her Decky or
45:40
Speaker 2: these guys at this point in time a DECKI same thing.
45:43
Speaker 2: He's a former champion, go whenever he wants. They play
45:46
Speaker 2: this course every single year. So I disagree. One, I
45:50
Speaker 2: don't even think it's controversial. All these guys play it before.
45:55
Speaker 2: And two all these guys have played it a million times,
45:58
Speaker 2: So I push back on that, where does Rory rank
46:03
Speaker 2: all time? Well, I think you have a clear kind
46:07
Speaker 2: of top tier, and that's like Tiger Jack, Ben Hogan
46:15
Speaker 2: kind of that crew, and then you have this group
46:18
Speaker 2: of just Tom Watson, Gary Player, Lee Trevino, Nick Faldo,
46:24
Speaker 2: Phil Mickelson. I think Rory is smack dab in that.
46:29
Speaker 2: The difference is I think when it's all said and done,
46:34
Speaker 2: I think there's a chance Rory could be considered again
46:38
Speaker 2: it's Ben Hogan. If I just went on like Arnold
46:42
Speaker 2: Palmer jack on, I think Rory's got a chance to
46:47
Speaker 2: be known as like the third best golfer of all time.
46:50
Speaker 2: He's never catching Jack or or Tiger, but like, why
46:56
Speaker 2: couldn't he win ten or eleven majors? He's got six,
46:59
Speaker 2: He's playing the best golf of his career, he's in
47:02
Speaker 2: great shape, he's in his mid thirties. To me, if
47:05
Speaker 2: he gets to ten plus, I think he would be
47:08
Speaker 2: considered the third best golfer of all time. So I
47:11
Speaker 2: would say, right now he's in that tier of like
47:15
Speaker 2: four to ten. I think even like historians like Branda
47:19
Speaker 2: would agree. Right. It's like if I had to do
47:25
Speaker 2: an NFL comp for Rory right now, it'd probably be
47:33
Speaker 2: like Mahomes. It's like he's kind of still in the
47:36
Speaker 2: prime of his career. You know, I don't know where
47:39
Speaker 2: he ranks, but he's already ranked really high, and he's
47:43
Speaker 2: got a chance to solidify himself, like he could pass
47:46
Speaker 2: Joe Montana and at worst he could be considered the
47:49
Speaker 2: third best quarterback of all time. He's already got more
47:51
Speaker 2: Super Bowls than Peyton Manning, He's got more Super Bowls
47:53
Speaker 2: than John Elway. Right so, Rory, I think Travinos six,
47:59
Speaker 2: Phil s six. I think that's kind of the crew
48:03
Speaker 2: he's in right now, which I would consider Phil like
48:05
Speaker 2: a top five or six call for of all time,
48:07
Speaker 2: and I'd say him and Rory are pretty equal now.
48:12
Speaker 2: The difference is and Rory's a little bit like this too.
48:16
Speaker 2: I think if you play Phil's career out ten times,
48:20
Speaker 2: most of the times Phil ends up with like nine
48:22
Speaker 2: or ten majors. I mean, he's finished second a million
48:26
Speaker 2: times now. So there's Rory, Like Rory of six, he
48:29
Speaker 2: easily could have eight or nine right now. Should have
48:32
Speaker 2: won at Pinehurst, probably should have won at LA Country Club,
48:36
Speaker 2: definitely could have won the Open the year Cam Smith
48:38
Speaker 2: won it, So if you just give him one of those,
48:41
Speaker 2: he'd have seven, and I think it'd be a little
48:44
Speaker 2: different animal. He just won back to back Masters, you know,
48:48
Speaker 2: a little like Tiger and Phil. Like how many times
48:50
Speaker 2: are Roy gonna win the Masters? Because if you put
48:53
Speaker 2: the over under what we hit the over under at
48:58
Speaker 2: right now one and a half, he's definitely gonna win
49:01
Speaker 2: it again. Good question, is golf the hardest pro sport
49:09
Speaker 2: to play in terms of mental strength? Watching the Masters,
49:12
Speaker 2: I can't help but think about the pressure in each shot,
49:15
Speaker 2: how much I get the yips, even just golfing by myself,
49:19
Speaker 2: the individual aspect, combined with the time between shots to
49:23
Speaker 2: think about good and bad. I just can't think of
49:26
Speaker 2: any other sport or position that is that hard a
49:28
Speaker 2: term of mental strength. I think it has a lot
49:32
Speaker 2: of parallels to kicking. The differences as a kicker. You know,
49:39
Speaker 2: the most pressure for a kicker is usually at the
49:41
Speaker 2: end of the game, but maybe throughout the game you
49:43
Speaker 2: have a couple other kicks. In golf, you're hitting a
49:46
Speaker 2: shot every five to ten minutes, right depending could be
49:49
Speaker 2: a little more around the green. There's just nothing like
49:53
Speaker 2: the majority of your time is spent in between shots,
49:58
Speaker 2: and it's not like football where everything's go a rapid fire.
50:01
Speaker 2: It's like play here, forty seconds later, another play and
50:05
Speaker 2: and things just go off the rails. I just think
50:07
Speaker 2: it's very unique that way. I would say it's near
50:10
Speaker 2: the top of no sport you can overthink more. Because
50:16
Speaker 2: in basketball you got a guy ahead of you right.
50:18
Speaker 2: In football you have a guy on the other side
50:20
Speaker 2: of you. In baseball you either the batter and the
50:25
Speaker 2: pitcher going up against each other, and then everyone in
50:27
Speaker 2: the field is trying to get the ball. In golf,
50:29
Speaker 2: the ball is not moving, so you have a you
50:32
Speaker 2: have something that is stagnant just sitting there that you
50:35
Speaker 2: control everything, and then there's just an element of just
50:39
Speaker 2: there's a lot of luck. Even when you hit great shots,
50:42
Speaker 2: you get a shitty kick, you're in a divot, you
50:45
Speaker 2: get a shitty lie, you know. I mean, that's there's
50:49
Speaker 2: just nothing quite like it. It it is. I don't know,
50:54
Speaker 2: if I listen, I love it. I don't know if
50:56
Speaker 2: it's like a somewhere between an activity and a sport,
51:00
Speaker 2: because you gotta be athletic to do be good at it.
51:03
Speaker 2: But it's not like most of like tennis, you have
51:05
Speaker 2: to be way more athletic to compete at the highest levels.
51:08
Speaker 2: Right you meet a college ten if you and I
51:11
Speaker 2: just went to the University of Texas or the University
51:13
Speaker 2: of Florida or the USC and just got their top
51:17
Speaker 2: tennis player and their top golfer, Like the tennis player
51:20
Speaker 2: is gonna be a better athlete. But you have to
51:23
Speaker 2: be athletic, especially in this day and age where you're
51:25
Speaker 2: hitting the ball far. Like if you see like Dustin
51:28
Speaker 2: Johnson or even Bryson Scotty. I mean, these guys are
51:32
Speaker 2: big guys when on this Are you a big food
51:38
Speaker 2: at the turn guy when you are golfing? Or do
51:41
Speaker 2: you bring your own food? I try to eat healthy,
51:45
Speaker 2: so I stay away from hot dogs and snacks while
51:47
Speaker 2: I play. I don't bring my own food. You know,
51:53
Speaker 2: I will just not eat when I'm there. So if
51:56
Speaker 2: I'm not eating, like if I go play TPC with
51:59
Speaker 2: some buddies on a Saturday, I will usually just eat
52:02
Speaker 2: before I go. Or maybe like on my way, I
52:05
Speaker 2: got this, like juice Bar has like assi bowls and smoothies.
52:09
Speaker 2: Maybe I'll get a smoothie if I'm trying to be
52:11
Speaker 2: healthy now, I mean if you if you're teeen off
52:14
Speaker 2: at one and maybe you got a transfusion till you
52:18
Speaker 2: get by. I have be't had a hot dog at
52:20
Speaker 2: the golf course in a while. But one thing I'll
52:23
Speaker 2: do is I'll get like probably not sometimes it's get
52:27
Speaker 2: like a Snickers bar if I just I just need
52:29
Speaker 2: some food, and if I haven't eaten breakfast, if I'm
52:31
Speaker 2: I'm fast in that day, I just need some something
52:34
Speaker 2: in me. But a lot of times I just won't
52:37
Speaker 2: eat right instead of getting a hot dog. But I mean, also,
52:41
Speaker 2: I've probably had a thousand hot dogs in my life,
52:44
Speaker 2: so it's hard to beat a good Hodd dog honestly.
52:47
Speaker 2: But I'm also not like I won't go cheeseburger or
52:53
Speaker 2: Caesadia or something like that at the turn. I think
52:55
Speaker 2: I just if I'm gonna go with something, I'm going dog,
52:59
Speaker 2: or I'm just going like powerade zero and like a
53:04
Speaker 2: peanut bar or something. So I would probably tend to
53:07
Speaker 2: do that or just or just the hot dog. The
53:09
Speaker 2: one thing with the hot dog, which probably not the
53:12
Speaker 2: best thing for you if you're just starving, like four
53:16
Speaker 2: bites it's in you and you're just off and running.
53:19
Speaker 2: The one hack that I have is I walk a lot.
53:23
Speaker 2: So if I'm gonna play, even with buddies money games,
53:27
Speaker 2: like I try if unless it's like one hundred and
53:30
Speaker 2: ten degrees anywhere between like seventy to like one oh five,
53:34
Speaker 2: I'm walking now sometimes like hopping the cart on a
53:38
Speaker 2: hole or whatever, but a little more justified to power
53:43
Speaker 2: down a dog.
53:45
Speaker 1: Also, like sometimes a dog just hits, like there's zone
53:48
Speaker 1: denying it a good dog, even if you are a
53:52
Speaker 1: health nut. Sometimes just kind of reminds you of your childhood.
53:56
Speaker 1: You're just eating hot dogs, like with friends and family
53:59
Speaker 1: at Barbie hughes and birthday parties and shit, I've never obviously,
54:04
Speaker 1: you can have the hot dogs at the Colisseum where
54:07
Speaker 1: the Raiders used to play Worst hot Dog of all time,
54:11
Speaker 1: So it's like that it wasn't very good, but a
54:13
Speaker 1: good dog, like the Dodger dog. I went to a
54:16
Speaker 1: Dodger game one time, got a Dodger dog.
54:18
Speaker 2: They're pretty bummed. They're pretty good. The food at where
54:21
Speaker 2: the Cardinals play, I've never been to a game there,
54:24
Speaker 2: but I've been to a couple of concerts. Awful, I
54:27
Speaker 2: mean embarrassingly bad. How terrible the food there is, But
54:32
Speaker 2: if you go to the right golf course and they
54:34
Speaker 2: make their hot dog, well, I'm a big believer if
54:37
Speaker 2: you go, especially if you've got an early tea time.
54:39
Speaker 2: There's nothing better than a golf course that has a
54:42
Speaker 2: great breakfast sandwich. It's you know, you're eating eggs, ham
54:46
Speaker 2: maybe on a either a bagel or a English muffin.
54:52
Speaker 2: Nothing hits the spot quite like that at a golf course.
54:55
Speaker 2: You get that in there, then you're off and running.
54:57
Speaker 2: Problem is, if the booze starts, you're just naturally going
55:00
Speaker 2: to get hungry and your your discipline dwindles for sure.
55:05
Speaker 2: Audie else have a great day and we'll be back
55:08
Speaker 2: with the Football Pod tomorrow. The volume
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Speaker 1: Mm hmm