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- Byron: Now, there's a sport that already exists that doesn't have scrums, that has 13 players per team because they've gotten rid of the props because there are no scrums. That's rugby league. That sport already exists. If you ⁓ want that, go coach rugby go watch rugby league. It's already there. You don't need to change rugby union. Chad: Yeah. Byron: and get rid of scrums to make it more like league because there's already a sport like that. That's like playing soccer, but someone picks the ball up and starts throwing it in the net. And they go, ⁓ this allows for more game and play. And they're like, but this sounds like handball. And you're like, no, no, no, it's soccer because, we play soccer with our hands now. And they're like, no, there's a sport that already exists like that. And they're like, no, shut up. That's how I feel. I feel like I'm the idiot in this situation because Chad: Yeah. No, I'm with you because we keep saying we want that kind of stuff and we when I say we rugby union are talking about turning into league. Leagues are less popular sport. It's got less viewers. It's got less people that play it. It's got less everything. Why would you want to be league? Byron: No one else is upset with us. Yes. Yes. I don't get it. Chad: And I have a respect for league. League is fun to watch and exactly it's a hundred percent. It's like comparing cricket to netball. Different sports. We play the only consistent or commonly known is pass backwards and oval ball. Byron: Yes, but it's its own sport. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Ask backwards. Yeah, yeah, same ball, run backwards, run forwards, tackle, but like the there's completely different intricacies between the sports. Chad: Yeah. No, and I think that's why rugby union is ⁓ more popular. More popular and in my biased opinion, better. Byron: is more popular. Yeah, because there's so much happening in one game of rugby. And we've also spoken about it before. It is a sport that has a role and a position for everyone. If you're a larger person, a smaller person, a taller person, a faster person, a slower person, there's a position for you on the field. In league, Chad: Yes. Byron: Your goal is to be as fast, nimble, as strong as possible. All 13 players. Chad: Yeah. Byron: So it just, don't know, it just, ⁓ why is there this obsession with getting rid of the scrums? There are so many other places where you can increase ball in play. ⁓ But then. Chad: I don't know. But why not just embrace what we have? Because we have a beautiful, amazing game. Byron: I'm fine with it. Yeah, I'm fine with it. When there's breaks, it's part of the sport. Imagine you watch... Sorry, go ahead. I'm losing my mind. Chad: I think the thing that would- The one thing that I wish we could take from rugby league is they've got like a bunker review system. I'm all for that. Everything else, leave it there. Byron: Mm-hmm. Yeah, it's its own sport. We don't need to be like it. Chad: But also, they they've regularly introduced the bunker system would slow the game down. Byron: Mm-hmm. Chad: So where does this, like, are we trying to find the, where's the happy medium? Like what does, what's the end goal is my question. Like where do we want to be? Do we want to play a game of 80 minutes? So 40 minutes a half in how long? Like what's the sweet goal? Like what is our target that we keep making all these changes for? Byron: You could Yeah. Yeah, like if you're a TV broadcaster, how long does it take to finish a game? Chad: Yeah, well, we keep saying let's shorten the game, let's shorten the game. What, we're going to 40 minutes in 27 minutes? Like, what are we tru- Byron: Yeah, yeah, like what is the... Yeah. Also, if someone gets injured, not as everyone go, ⁓ there's not enough ball in play. He's got a concussion. Why don't we just get him off the field first and then look at his health? That's another way to speed up the game. But no one says that because it sounds stupid. Just like the people trying to get rid of Trump. It's stupid. Chad: Yeah. Because it is stupid. Yeah, no, it is. Look at us. My heart rate's going up. I can feel it. Talking about... Byron: ⁓ I don't know. It's and for me, I'm very, very upset by this.