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Cowboy Kent Rollins | Wisdom, Grit, and Cast Iron Stories from a True American Legend · Single Tree Nation Show

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welcome back to singletree nation guys i'm
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your man charlie eblen and as always we
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have our illustrious co-host mr derry
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wells with us today what is up i
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never know if to look at you or
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the camera so you can look wherever you
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feel like a rookie like i've never done
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this before we're on a hundred plus
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episodes and i don't know where to look
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so mr cowboy kent is our special guest
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today we are super stoked to have him
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i can't wait to to dive into the
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story
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I appreciate it.
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I'm going to ask a quick question.
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Are you at your home place?
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Is that your decoration?
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Man, you have got a good setup.
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Well done.
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We do a lot of videos at the
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wagon we have here in New Mexico,
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but we,
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sometimes we cook just right here too.
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Okay.
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I love it.
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I love it.
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Now you have your hands in just about
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everything from what I understand.
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Well, they've always been busy.
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You know,
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an old man on a ranch told me
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a long time ago, he said,
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you can tell a lot about a man
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by what he wears on his head,
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what he rides,
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and how many calluses he has on his
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hands.
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He said,
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because lazy people don't get them.
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He said, you keep working long enough,
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he said, you might wear them off,
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but it'll take a while.
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Mm-hmm.
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that's that's that's uh that's rich as
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true as it gets yes it is yes
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it is uh you said that you you've
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been doing it about your whole life i'm
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the one that does a little research
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charlie doesn't but but i do and so
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you grew up with father or uncle somebody
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and and you started chuck wagon even back
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then
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Yeah, I mean,
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we was raised in southwest Oklahoma,
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right there on the banks of the Red
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River.
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And from a farm and ranch operation,
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my dad taught me what it was to
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be a cowboy and work nineteen hours a
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day.
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And my mother taught me that
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You cook what you love for the ones
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you love.
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And she started me in the kitchen when
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I was about nine years old.
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And it was really nice to be in
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there when it was twenty degrees outside
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and they're saddling up.
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But when I had to go to washing
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dishes,
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I'm thinking I'm going to get back in
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the saddle.
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But it was something I got to do
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that was more like a dream come true.
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You know,
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I worked some of the greatest old timers
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that were great cowboys.
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that stood tall as giant oak trees.
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They were like legends.
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And I got to be around them every
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day.
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I learned some of the values that they
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taught me,
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not only about horses and cattle,
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but also about God, country, and people.
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And we try to instill that in whatever
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we do.
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And I don't know,
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went to rodeo in there for a while
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and I quit cooking when I was about
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nineteen to thirty.
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What kind of rodeo?
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I rode bulls forever, you know.
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Good Lord blessed me.
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I didn't get hurt, made a good living.
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And, um,
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then I went to guide nail counters in
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the heel of wilderness and look,
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you got me interested on bull right now.
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So let's, let's, let's, let's pause.
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What, what, uh, what,
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how do you go from,
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from cooking and making some delicious
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foods and you're having a great time and
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you're loving that too.
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Hey,
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let me go get on this couple thousand
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pound bull and see if he can kick
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my butt.
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Well,
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a lot of it was my oldest brother.
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An oldest brother will help a younger
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brother get killed off at any time in
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his life if he can.
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Amen.
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He started me practicing when I was about
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nine or ten years old,
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but he'd just tie your feet under
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something like you'd catch an old cow out
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in the pasture or steer it.
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he'd tie your feet under them you wouldn't
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even have nothing to hang on to and
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i said i don't think this is the
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way they do it randy and he said
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it'll teach you balance well after you get
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your head kicked in about twenty times you
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learn either some balance or this ain't
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your job no more you know but um
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i don't know if i did a good
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job as an older brother now based on
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what randy did with him i think i
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failed my brother a little bit all right
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he was doing all right yeah
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He was a great cowboy too,
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a great horse trainer.
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They would always saddle up a lot of
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times when I was young and he wouldn't
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let me go with some of his and
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his friends.
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And I got up and lost to the
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barn one time and they was riding out
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and shot his horse in the butt with
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BB gun.
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He got bucked off and I thought it
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was a really good deal till he chased
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me down and wrote me and tied me
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upside down naked in a tree.
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And I'm,
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He said, if you tell mama,
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I'll whoop your butt.
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And I said,
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you actually think mama's going to think I
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did this to myself.
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So you need to rethink that situation.
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That is outstanding.
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I can only imagine the fun with two
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brothers on a ranch here in Oklahoma and
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just the stories that, like you just said,
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that that invokes.
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That's awesome.
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There was never a cold day.
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Yeah.
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What about,
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what about bull riding intrigued you?
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Was it, was it the challenge?
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Was it learning the skill?
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Was it just a part of what,
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what you grew up around?
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Well, my dad, uh, they're in Hollis,
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Oklahoma.
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They used,
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we had a rodeo for like sixty four
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years and my dad was all around cowboy
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in nineteen fifty two.
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my oldest brother Randy was in seventy two
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and I was in eighty two.
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You know,
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it's something that was sort of in our
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blood.
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We grew up riding bucking horses,
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you know, all the time anyway.
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But I always just admired the bull riders
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that were back then when I was eighteen,
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nineteen years old, twenty, you know,
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and that was Jim Shoulders and Freckles
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Brown, Larry Mahan, Mertis Deitman.
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You know,
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it wasn't so much about the big money
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that they have now.
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It was about a
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A family,
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a group of people that come together and
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they love to ride bulls and they can
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knock hair off of them if they wanted
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to.
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that's that's impressive i love just the
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brotherhood that you just spoke to the
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fact that you can drop all those names
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yeah and that's that's very much what i
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see out of the that the cowboy culture
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if you will it's yes there's money to
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be made now and with all those bigger
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ones but the fact that y'all still stick
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together and and my mother she uh when
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we were growing up eight seconds was like
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one of her favorite movies i couldn't tell
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you the number of times i've had to
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sit that and watch that with her and
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It's a great movie.
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She always gets upset, though,
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that they left off his life after the
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rodeo when he kind of gave his life
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to the Lord and all that.
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She's like, they left off the good part.
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You know,
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you got to hear from mom about that
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part.
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But it's just Lane Frost had such a
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unique.
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I think he almost made it common.
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And so for you to rattle off those
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names that well and just the brotherhood
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that y'all have there,
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that's just a beautiful thing.
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So a lot of people just don't understand.
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It was it was not so much about
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the money.
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Sure, I made a living at it.
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And that was back in the eighties.
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But when my dad won that in fifty
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two,
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he got a big old silver cup trophy,
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you know, said all around champion cowboy.
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And he got seventeen dollars when my
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brother won it.
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He won a buckle and two hundred and
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forty two dollars.
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And when I won it,
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I won a buckle and eight hundred and
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forty two dollars, you know.
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But it was, I don't know,
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I think it's something that gets in your
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blood that you,
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I won't say that I craved it all
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the time,
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but I quit riding when I was thirty
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seven because the ground got really hard.
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I could still ride bulls,
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but I couldn't bounce anymore.
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I sort of looked like a yard dart
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out there in the ground.
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Have you ever tried to ride a bull
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or anything?
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Heck no.
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Look, now,
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I've ridden horses my whole life.
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Nope, doesn't count.
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And I've gotten bucked off a horse.
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But I ain't never tried to get on
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a bull.
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We tried to ride an old steer,
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and it was still in the chute.
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When we,
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me and Jonathan Lee in high school,
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his nickname was cowboy.
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That was buddy virus.
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We grew up and, uh,
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it did not go well.
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Uh,
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and I knew right then I had all
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the respect for him by that ever did
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it because I got about a half leg
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on and that was it.
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So anyhow, that's, that's my story.
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That's all I got.
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So.
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There was an old man explained it to
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me that was a judge for rodeos many
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years ago.
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And he'd tell them young kids, I'd say,
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you know, I'm get older.
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I'm be a bull rider.
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And he said,
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get your mouth full of marbles and put
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them in your mouth.
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And he said,
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every time you get on once spit a
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marble out.
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He said, when you run out of marbles,
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he said, you'll be out.
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You'll be a bull rider.
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He said,
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cause you ain't got nothing left in your
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brain no more.
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It's just old cowboy wisdom.
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They just knew what to do with it.
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That's the truth.
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That's it.
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That's it.
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That's the truth.
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Look, I got thrown off of one horse.
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You were done.
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And I was good.
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That's awesome.
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Look, you have,
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from the chuck wagon side of things,
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you've kind of made a name for yourself
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with all things that.
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And then that parlays into some of the
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TV stuff.
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You've been on several different shows
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with Bobby Flay and the Food Network and
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stuff.
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And so we had a guest on.
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We had Cary Bringle on,
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Peg Leg Porker Barbecue.
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Yeah, yeah.
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And I had to give him a hard
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time.
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I said,
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do you still remember the recipe you made?
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And he goes, oh, yeah.
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Like,
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he knew exactly what he did to get
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kicked off.
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Yeah.
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I think that was the Barbecue Showdown.
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Yeah, I was there.
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uh chop grill master because he was on
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the same year i was out there right
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right do you look back at stuff like
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that and think hey i wish i had
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done this done that differently or do you
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just roll with it because of the fun
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you had and you got to meet some
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great folks and keep on going do you
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ever think back about it
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I do.
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I mean, when, when we did that, they,
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they took people that they call shifts and
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one, and one cowboy,
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because they were filming at old Tucson at
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the old where they filmed high Chaparral,
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the old Western series.
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And they wanted somebody to be sort of,
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you know,
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cowboy and play the part out there.
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They didn't think I'd go far,
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but I went to the finals and, um,
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ended up getting beat in the finals,
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but it was all right.
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Um, but.
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You look back,
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especially the night after the finals,
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and you think, what if, coulda, shoulda,
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woulda, you know?
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But if you let stuff like that get
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in your mind and stay,
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it'll haunt you forever.
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Sure.
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You know, you go out there every day,
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whatever you're doing in life,
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and you put forth your best effort,
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give it all you got,
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you don't have no regrets.
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You know, you just keep going.
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wisdom i'm telling you the cowboys have
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the best wisdom great it's just the
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cowboys look tell me another profession
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that sacrifices what they do have a love
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for nature because they are so involved in
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it they have just the the animal world
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that they're involved in and then you have
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to learn from it and the cowboy wisdom
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is just a whole separate like it's it's
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its own own thing so
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I think one of the things I love
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the most about that is how simple it
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is, though.
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One hundred percent.
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Yeah.
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It's just true.
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You know,
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I told a judge out there at CHOP
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that time, Mark Murphy, he said, you know,
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whatever we put in that basket,
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and you don't even know what it is,
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but you just keep on cooking it.
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And he said, you make it simple.
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I said, life is simple.
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I said,
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y'all trying to complicate it with food.
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I said,
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we don't do that where I'm from.
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Yeah.
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I love it.
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Amen.
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My favorite thing of yours,
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and I'm going to dip all the way
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in.
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This is where I'm going to fangirl a
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little bit.
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I've been excited about this show for a
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long time.
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I'm sorry.
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So your cat head biscuits.
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Yeah.
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i would the other day i was asking
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my students if i could know facts about
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my life looking back and i grew up
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in the construction world and i was like
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the the number of board feet that i've
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cut through table saw i'd love to know
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that
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How did you even have a guesstimation of
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the number of cat head biscuits or any
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biscuit really that you've made in a cast
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iron skillet?
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Like that is no, we, uh, you,
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you couldn't count them.
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You know,
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you could line people up from one end
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of the United States to the other and
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still wouldn't be, uh,
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I got them out ranked on biscuits because
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there was a festival we did for seven
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years straight in Missouri.
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Uh,
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and I would make two hundred biscuits
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every morning for that festival, you know,
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and then time you do that seven days
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a week for seven weeks,
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that's a lot of biscuits.
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Then you take in thirty eight years of
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cooking in a Dutch oven and making
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biscuits nearly every meal you cooked.
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I don't even eat a biscuit anymore.
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I was going to ask that.
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Is that have you have you weaned yourself
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off of it?
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You just ran yourself dry.
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Yeah, I mean,
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we did a video this week about
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It's called the Cowboy Biscuit Bible.
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That'll come out in a couple of weeks.
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And it's about the biscuits that we've
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made that I really thought were the
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favorites.
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And, you know, it was a sourdough biscuit,
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a cat head biscuit,
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the two ingredient biscuits.
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if I'm going to go in here in
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the house and make some biscuits for me
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and Shannon,
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I'm going to get a whack them can
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and I'm going to open them up and
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I'm going to whack them.
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That's right.
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You know, that's right.
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Now does she make you do it?
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Cause my wife won't open the can.
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She doesn't like the little pop at the
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end.
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I have to do that.
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Okay, good.
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There you go.
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Well done.
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That is fantastic.
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You've got a show coming out.
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Uh, correct me if I'm wrong.
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Cast iron cowboy.
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yes sir is that right on the outdoor
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channel yeah uh what's the premise of that
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are you just cooking is it a cooking
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show is it outdoor all things outdoor show
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western show where we what's the
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background on that you know we uh we
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dreamed this up seven years ago
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And there was a producer out of California
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called me,
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and we get a lot of producers that
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call, and I usually tell them,
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you're a car salesman.
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Y'all have a good day.
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Bye, and hang up on them.
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And this guy was persistent.
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He just kept calling back, and he said,
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if you could have any show on any
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network, what would it be?
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And I told him sort of the premise
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of what we wanted out of it,
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which is to highlight the American cowboy
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culture.
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the american rancher across the united
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states and show their history the way that
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they raise beef what they got to do
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to get it done and then usually we
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cook a recipe that's either been with that
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family or something that we really think
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ties into that ranch whether it's their
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beef or something that they're raising and
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uh we never did want it men's sham
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to be about us we wanted to show
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some of these more historic places i mean
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One of the ranches where we start the
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first season is the J.A.
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Ranch there by Clarendon, Texas.
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It's the birthplace of Charles Goodnight
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to where he invented the chuck wagon,
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to some family-owned ranches in Nebraska,
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to the Bighorn Basin there in Wyoming.
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One of the most iconic ranches in Nevada,
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the Spanish Ranch in Maggie Creek.
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Some ranches, twenty thousand acres,
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some of them,
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seven hundred and fifty thousand acres.
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You know,
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but when you go from ninety one degrees
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to one hundred and one degrees to three
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below zero, you know,
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and you
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But if they can work cattle in it,
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we can cook in it.
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And I think that's what we're trying to
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get across.
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But there's a message there for everybody
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in the show, and that is, hey,
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we're going to keep it simple.
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We're going to feed cowboys just the same
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way old Cook did going down the trail.
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We just have a lot better grocery store
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than he used to.
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That's exactly right.
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Putting a little nice to have a pantry
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up to, isn't it?
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Yeah, that's exactly right.
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That's great, man.
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That's great.
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So –
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It seems like you've taken your career
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from being a cowboy to turning it back
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into being able to tell stories and
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telling other people's stories,
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which really intrigues me because I
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started my restaurant to become the Nike
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of barbecue.
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And to me,
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that means that we help people
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Yeah.
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Right.
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Nike helps people run faster and be
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stronger, work out harder,
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rejuvenate to work out harder and better
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the next day.
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So we took up that slogan as as
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to help build and grow community through
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storytelling, barbecue and hospitality.
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So how how are you going to take
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what you've started in this new show and
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continuously grow that to really kind of
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help grow your community?
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Well, you know,
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a lot of people see a cowboy as
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something they've seen in a Western movie,
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you know,
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something that maybe they've seen pictures
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of.
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I did an interview not long ago with
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a lady out of Chicago, and she said,
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you know,
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your kind of people are dying out.
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It doesn't really offend me,
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but I want to know what kind of
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people them are.
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I said, ma'am, we're not dying out.
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You just can't see us from the interstate
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going seventy miles an hour.
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We're still out there.
16:25
If there's cows and there's cowboys and
16:28
there's remote country,
16:29
there's an old cook somewhere.
16:31
And, you know,
16:32
the good Lord has blessed me and Shan
16:35
so much.
16:35
We get to do what we want to
16:36
do.
16:37
And I get to do it with the
16:38
one I love more than anything every day.
16:40
And that is either create content about
16:44
cooking with a chuck wagon or feeding
16:46
cowboys on a working ranch or just telling
16:48
somebody a story.
16:49
Because.
16:51
When you can relay history that started
16:54
way back in the eighteen seventies on
16:55
cattle drives and pass it on to another
16:58
generation, we're preserving that history.
17:01
And I always was taught this in my
17:04
life.
17:05
People read stories.
17:07
Don't be reading the story.
17:08
Be part of the story or what the
17:10
story is about.
17:10
And that's the way we try to look
17:12
at life every day because
17:15
Every day is a blessing.
17:16
You know,
17:16
if you wake up above ground and somebody
17:18
ain't throwing dirt in your face,
17:19
it is a great day to be alive.
17:21
That's right.
17:21
That's right.
17:22
Uh,
17:23
you quickly referenced the historical side
17:26
of things and,
17:28
and just in a quick chat with you
17:30
here today,
17:30
and then what you can easily see on
17:32
a lot of your content,
17:34
you have a very good hand at the
17:38
historical side of things.
17:41
What is it about knowing where you came
17:44
from that helps you in this modern day
17:48
of all the social media stuff still know
17:50
where you want to go?
17:52
Well,
17:52
I think a lot of it starts back
17:54
with don't be something you're not.
17:57
Just be who you are and be real.
18:00
People can spot a counterfeit a hundred
18:03
miles away.
18:03
Shines like a silver dollar in a goat's
18:05
butt.
18:05
You'll never miss it.
18:07
But if you keep it real every day,
18:10
and let people know that they can count
18:13
on you to be the same every time,
18:15
you make an impression on somebody's life.
18:18
You know,
18:19
we get so many people that reach out
18:21
to us, servicemen and women, veterans,
18:24
everybody that say, hey,
18:25
please don't quit what you're doing.
18:26
You're making a difference in life.
18:29
You never know when you may have that
18:31
chance to help somebody.
18:33
You may not be able to shake their
18:34
hand right then,
18:35
But you're going to get to help them
18:37
out one way, one form, or one fashion.
18:40
And it's a great thing to be able
18:42
to
18:43
To know that you played a part in
18:45
somebody else's life to make it better.
18:47
And that's what we're put on earth to
18:49
do.
18:49
And that's what we try to do.
18:52
We have a flag that flies with that
18:53
Studebaker wagon and it's an eighteen
18:55
seventy six Studebaker.
18:57
We were shooting videos three or four
18:59
years ago in the summer in southwest
19:00
Oklahoma.
19:01
And you get burned out.
19:03
I mean,
19:04
you start at five thirty in the morning
19:05
by sunset.
19:06
six thirty seven o'clock standing by a
19:08
fire.
19:08
It's one hundred and twenty degrees
19:10
already.
19:10
And it's hard to make things look
19:12
pleasant.
19:12
You know,
19:13
Jen does all the all the editing,
19:15
all the filming.
19:17
And she's still at the computer that night
19:19
about eleven o'clock.
19:20
And I said,
19:21
know darling i said i'm about to burn
19:23
out we're gonna have to take two or
19:24
three days off and she said i hear
19:26
you i try to get up every morning
19:28
about four thirty five open that laptop
19:31
computer and answer as many comments as i
19:33
can on youtube before we get busy and
19:35
the first one that morning was good
19:37
morning mr rollins this is lance corporal
19:39
cody childers i'm currently stationed in
19:42
afghanistan what we did today wasn't
19:44
pleasant
19:45
But there was nine of us gathered around
19:46
a laptop computer,
19:48
and you made us feel like we were
19:49
home.
19:50
Please don't quit what you're doing.
19:51
You make a difference in life.
19:53
I woke her up at five o'clock that
19:54
morning.
19:55
I said, we got a film, sugar.
19:57
Somebody's counting on you.
19:59
Three weeks later,
20:00
I get a call from his mother,
20:01
which I'd never known in my life.
20:03
And she said, I'm sorry to inform you,
20:05
but we lost Cody to an IAD.
20:07
The flag that we flew over his service
20:09
in Washington, D.C.,
20:10
he wanted you to have.
20:12
I said, ma'am, I can't take that.
20:13
She said, you will take it.
20:15
I tell you that story not to make
20:16
you sad,
20:17
but to tell you that you make a
20:19
difference in someone's life every day.
20:21
Be real.
20:22
Be who you are,
20:23
and you'll make a difference.
20:27
That's been a great episode for everybody.
20:29
You just nailed it all right there.
20:32
Ken, I'm going to tell you, sir.
20:37
I work real hard every single day to,
20:39
to impact my community.
20:42
Yeah.
20:42
As,
20:42
as hard as I possibly can every day.
20:45
Yeah.
20:45
And I think it's,
20:46
I think it's as a leader,
20:49
as a business owner, as somebody that, um,
20:53
is passionate about their community.
20:56
Um,
20:56
it is our responsibility to help build and
21:01
grow and impact every single day.
21:04
Right.
21:04
Yes, sir.
21:05
Um,
21:06
and and i just want you to know
21:07
that uh you you are are filling me
21:11
up with joy just sitting here talking to
21:14
you for a minute and if anybody hadn't
21:17
told you that you you've made their day
21:20
you have made mine today well just i
21:22
just i appreciate you well my daddy taught
21:24
me a long time ago he said uh
21:26
you know you and your brother walk into
21:28
a pen a hundred horses and pick a
21:30
good now he said what are you looking
21:33
for i said a soft eye
21:37
I can see in both of y'all from
21:38
this far away from this computer screen,
21:40
there's a soft eye in both of you.
21:42
It works in dogs, people, children,
21:43
horses, everybody.
21:45
And if a man got a soft eye,
21:47
he got a soft heart.
21:48
And that's what it takes.
21:51
Man,
21:51
I've literally on the verge of like
21:53
getting worked up here.
21:53
Like goodness gracious.
21:55
Uh, well,
21:57
I'm going to ask you something and this
21:58
is, this is,
21:59
and feel free to tell me you're too
22:01
busy,
22:02
but I am in the process of putting
22:05
together and nobody knows this.
22:06
So this is crazy that I'm saying this
22:08
on air, but, um, I'm in the process.
22:10
Our,
22:11
our city does not have a veterans day
22:12
parade.
22:13
Yeah.
22:14
And I am in the process of putting
22:15
together a Veterans Day parade for twenty
22:17
twenty six.
22:18
I've just submitted the application item,
22:20
got it approved through the city.
22:23
But I would absolutely love it if you
22:27
would join us for that parade and help
22:31
me cook.
22:32
Cause at the end of it,
22:33
we're going to do a big,
22:34
I'll do a big cook and we'll celebrate.
22:36
We're going to, we're actually going to,
22:38
and we hadn't even announced it for our
22:40
nonprofit,
22:41
but our nonprofit is going to name the
22:43
veteran of the year that day.
22:45
They're going to be the grand Marshall and
22:47
we're going to celebrate them.
22:48
But I want to do a big cook
22:49
afterwards at my restaurant.
22:53
Be sure and email me and give me
22:54
them dates.
22:55
I'll write you down on the calendar
22:56
brother,
22:57
because we owe them people so much.
23:00
Yes, sir.
23:00
It's one of them deals.
23:01
We just got through filming an episode not
23:04
long ago at Fort Wainwright in Alaska.
23:08
And I was telling him,
23:10
I've seen all these young men,
23:11
these soldiers, men and women, you know,
23:13
out there on this flight line with them
23:15
Apache helicopters.
23:16
And I look around at myself and I'm
23:17
thinking, what have I done with my life?
23:19
You know, look at these, you know,
23:21
look what they're doing.
23:22
And I was visiting with a veteran up
23:23
there and I was telling him that story.
23:25
And he said, hold on there a minute,
23:27
cowboy.
23:28
He said,
23:28
do you know what you and your wife
23:30
do for people?
23:31
You have reached so many people,
23:33
so many veterans,
23:34
so many servicemen and women.
23:35
Don't think you ain't done your part.
23:36
I said, yeah, but them kids is eighteen,
23:38
nineteen, twenty, twenty one years old.
23:40
I said,
23:41
I still trying to figure out how to
23:42
ride a bull at that time,
23:43
not fly a helicopter.
23:44
But now you just let us know,
23:48
my friend,
23:49
because it's we're always trying to to
23:51
help that part out.
23:53
Like I say,
23:54
we can never pay back the debt that
23:55
them people give to us.
23:56
yes sir that's gorgeous i i get a
23:59
chance to hang out with charlie quite a
24:00
bit of his restaurant and different events
24:03
and every time he starts talking about all
24:05
the veterans that are in attendance i am
24:07
not a veteran and i just i have
24:08
to take it back on and just just
24:10
for a second taking all of what i'm
24:12
looking at and because they're even though
24:14
they think oh it's just a little hometown
24:16
get together i see it as a non-military
24:19
member i see it a lot differently and
24:21
i'm always thankful for what they do um
24:24
That switching gears a little bit.
24:26
Uh,
24:28
I did find there was a year where
24:30
you won the Oklahoma storyteller of the
24:34
year.
24:34
Was that correct?
24:37
It was nationwide.
24:38
It was the academy of Western artists.
24:43
Uh, they had this deal long time ago.
24:47
It's come back now, but, uh,
24:49
One year I was Chuck Wagon Cook of
24:50
the Year,
24:51
and then one year I was Cowboy Humorist
24:54
of the Year.
24:56
The governor one time proclaimed me the
24:57
official Chuck Wagon Cook of Oklahoma,
24:59
and when he did, I asked him,
25:00
I said,
25:02
don't think that gives you a free ride.
25:04
You're not going to eat free at the
25:05
wagon.
25:07
I was going to go back to the
25:09
storytelling side.
25:10
Uh,
25:11
cause there are people that could tell
25:12
stories well,
25:13
and there are some people that just need
25:15
to be consumers and just listen to the
25:17
story and that's okay.
25:19
What makes a quality storyteller?
25:23
Well, to me,
25:24
and being around all them old timers and
25:25
especially my brother,
25:28
most stories come from nearly someone
25:30
getting killed every time.
25:31
Okay.
25:32
It was either a bad wreck or something
25:34
like that.
25:35
My brother talked me into more stuff than
25:37
I ever got out of my life.
25:39
He told me that I was going to
25:41
be an Olympic skier one time and ski
25:43
off the top of a two-story house and
25:45
it wasn't going to hurt.
25:46
And it hurt like hell when I hit
25:47
the ground.
25:47
It did, you know.
25:50
He is just one of them deals.
25:51
You, you think one of these days,
25:53
maybe you'll outgrow the stupidity that I
25:55
had when I said eight, nine years old,
25:57
but you keep looking at your older brother
25:59
and seeing what he has accomplished as a
26:01
cowboy and horse trainer.
26:03
You know what I'm thinking?
26:04
Surely he knows what he's talking about,
26:06
but I know at this time in my
26:08
life, he didn't.
26:10
He made a good run with it though,
26:11
didn't he?
26:13
I was very fortunate.
26:14
One year I got to go to the
26:16
storytelling festival there in a pigeon
26:18
forge, Tennessee.
26:20
okay and perform there and uh i met
26:23
some great people you know and i i
26:26
can't even remember half of them's name
26:27
but i just love to sit on the
26:29
porch with some of them old timers that
26:30
was up there and not hear the stories
26:32
that they were telling on stage but the
26:34
stories they were telling on that porch
26:36
right right get them out from behind the
26:39
microphone and see what they share then
26:40
yeah he's not as polished and not as
26:42
pretty so that's where the real stories
26:44
are we charlie always likes to tell us
26:46
about the the times growing up around the
26:48
campfire
26:49
at the old farm.
26:50
And I'm always like,
26:51
that's the stories I want to hear.
26:53
And we had a chance to hear from
26:55
his father for one of our episodes and
26:57
same thing.
26:58
He just, those,
26:59
those stories that you can't tell with the
27:01
microphone on are,
27:02
are the stories that really kind of drive
27:05
and shape who we are.
27:05
And then we clean it up just to
27:07
present everybody.
27:07
So we did cooking schools forever.
27:10
Uh,
27:10
I was trying to get more chuck wagon
27:12
cooks for ranchers more than anything
27:14
else.
27:14
Uh,
27:16
And I did one,
27:16
one time I got brave and did one
27:18
for an old women's class.
27:20
And I used to just take four students.
27:22
It was like the same aspect as it
27:24
would be on a working ranch.
27:25
We'd get up every morning at four o'clock.
27:27
You'd start to work.
27:28
You didn't quit till way after dark,
27:30
you know.
27:30
And one of these ladies,
27:32
her husband had sent her down there
27:33
because she was,
27:34
her husband was one of the biggest game
27:37
outfitters for wild game in probably the
27:40
Northern hemisphere on the half end up
27:42
there from Montana through Canada and
27:44
Wyoming and over there.
27:45
And he said,
27:47
he sent me down here to learn to
27:48
cook in a Dutch oven because we want
27:50
to do remote camps.
27:51
And I said,
27:52
I'll teach you all to know, ma'am,
27:53
in four days.
27:54
I said,
27:54
because I don't know a whole lot.
27:56
She said, I'm sure you do.
27:58
But after we'd get through every day and
28:00
the rest of them women would be in
28:01
a teepee asleep,
28:03
she would be over at the wagon and
28:05
she'd say,
28:06
I want to know what you ain't told
28:07
people.
28:08
And I said, ma'am,
28:09
them things just come out.
28:11
I said, I don't know what they are.
28:12
I said, if you're a chuck wagon cook,
28:15
everybody has a plan.
28:17
ABC ours goes to X, Y, Z.
28:20
I said,
28:21
cause mother nature will throw you a curve
28:23
ball every day.
28:25
I said, I've cooked in hail storms,
28:26
blizzards had Latin stroke, uh, uh,
28:30
went into the wagon many years ago on
28:32
a ranch.
28:33
Um, we've been drowned it out,
28:34
blowed away snow storms,
28:36
but I always look at it as, Hey,
28:39
they're horseback in it.
28:40
I'm surely cooking.
28:41
Right.
28:42
Right.
28:43
Do you, when's the last time,
28:44
or do you still go out on actual
28:46
live ranches and do anything,
28:49
or is it always returned to the comfort
28:51
of a bed at night or how you
28:53
still sharpen those skills?
28:54
Well, especially with this series,
28:57
since it's happened, uh, you know, we're,
29:00
When it's filmed,
29:01
it's like a one day process is what
29:03
you're seeing finished product.
29:05
But it's usually a three to four day
29:07
event.
29:08
And we're staying in a teepee every night.
29:09
Now I'll tell that producer and that crew,
29:12
and I love them dearly rabbit foot
29:13
productions.
29:14
I'll say, I got plenty of teepees.
29:15
Y'all can stay out here if you want.
29:17
And some of the more remote places that
29:19
we've been, that have been.
29:20
Eighty miles to the nearest town.
29:22
They sure stay.
29:23
They'll make it home.
29:25
Okay.
29:25
We just finished two episodes for the
29:27
second season in Montana and Wyoming.
29:29
And every night was in a teepee and
29:31
in a bedroom, you know, and, uh,
29:33
I can remember when I started this years
29:35
ago and sort of made a name for
29:37
myself cooking for ranches that you could
29:38
stay busy from February to really October,
29:41
you know, start in South Texas,
29:43
go north and you'd be two hundred nights
29:46
away from home.
29:47
Wasn't all together, you know,
29:48
it'd be strung out.
29:50
And I remember coming in one time and
29:52
I've been going about seven weeks.
29:53
My mother said,
29:55
Didn't you miss me?
29:56
And I said, I sure did, mom.
29:57
I said, but I missed a standup shower,
29:59
sit down,
30:00
toilet and carpet worse than that.
30:03
A sit down toilet.
30:05
That's a perspective I hadn't thought
30:07
about here recently.
30:08
That's the finer things in life.
30:12
You, uh, you got a Mac or beans.
30:15
Uh, I do,
30:16
but I feel like it's not a very
30:17
good one and, and I don't usually,
30:19
so it's funny that we talk about the,
30:21
the comforts that you're used to.
30:23
Mac or beans is our, this or that.
30:25
So I'm,
30:26
I feel like I know your answer to
30:28
the first half.
30:29
You walk into barbecue restaurant or open
30:33
Chuck wagon.
30:34
We've got the opportunity for Mac and
30:36
cheese or some sort of style barbecue
30:39
baked bean.
30:40
Which one of those two are you going
30:42
to choose?
30:42
I'm going to buy them both.
30:45
Have you ever had a barbecue baked bean
30:47
macaroni and cheese casserole?
30:49
I haven't.
30:49
No.
30:50
It is pretty good dining.
30:51
Sounds like you need to come up with
30:54
something.
30:54
Sounds like I need a recipe.
30:56
The other half I wanted,
30:58
growing up with the chuck wagon,
30:59
you've obviously done well with that and
31:03
not only honed that skill,
31:04
but kept that tradition alive.
31:06
But there's still got to be, I'm guessing,
31:08
the comforts of cooking in the kitchen.
31:11
So if somebody wakes you up in the
31:13
morning and says, hey,
31:14
you got one meal to cook today,
31:16
you want a chuck wagon or do you
31:17
want to go cook in a kitchen?
31:18
Which one are you going to pick?
31:20
I'll pick that wagon every day.
31:22
That's where my heritage is.
31:25
I mean,
31:25
I feel comfortable cooking in anything in
31:27
the world.
31:28
But when I'm at that wagon place,
31:31
I have the best view out my kitchen
31:33
window every day.
31:34
You know,
31:35
I've seen things that people will dream
31:36
about that most folks will never get to
31:39
see.
31:41
But it's something about God created this
31:44
universe and he gave me the chance to
31:45
be in it and to do what I
31:47
do.
31:48
Every day is a holiday.
31:51
I love it.
31:51
Every day's a holiday.
31:52
What's, what's, uh, uh, Rodney Scott's,
31:55
uh,
31:56
every day is a good day and tomorrow
31:58
will be better.
31:59
I like that.
31:59
Yeah.
32:00
That just the perspective.
32:02
I think a lot of folks that just
32:03
have, uh, in, in the barbecue world,
32:06
but people that cook over open fire or
32:08
just out, you've got a different hold on,
32:12
on nature, uh,
32:14
because your restaurant doesn't stop
32:16
because it rains one day.
32:17
Cowboys don't quit because it's storming
32:21
or whatever.
32:24
We did an event a couple of days
32:25
ago.
32:25
It's called Downtown on the Farm.
32:29
I cooked a hundred and fifty Cornish hens
32:32
and an elote.
32:35
We had some other dishes that some other
32:39
guys did.
32:39
I'm cooking away and all of a sudden
32:43
it's...
32:46
It's just pouring down rain.
32:47
Pouring rain, yeah.
32:48
Yeah.
32:49
What's that do to your temperatures?
32:51
Oh, it drops them.
32:51
Yeah?
32:51
Yeah.
32:52
Well, he had to bring the friend on.
32:54
That's it.
32:55
We were just talking about schnauzers.
32:56
Look at that little fellow right there.
32:57
Sorry about that,
32:58
but the guard dog sounded the alarm.
33:00
That's right.
33:01
Hey, I understand, yeah.
33:02
We've got a guard dog running around here,
33:04
too, and so we understand how they work.
33:08
That just means they're doing their job,
33:09
earning a keep.
33:10
For years and years,
33:11
we had a beagle for fourteen years,
33:13
Shannon.
33:13
Whichever dog we got has been a rescue.
33:16
And that beagle, I mean,
33:17
we have like three,
33:18
three and a half million subscribers on
33:20
YouTube.
33:20
He probably had thirty three million
33:22
before he passed away.
33:23
People love that dog.
33:24
And he was always sneaking about off the
33:26
table or stealing something,
33:28
grabbing a whole chicken,
33:29
a stick of butter.
33:30
You know,
33:32
last year he passed June the seventh.
33:35
We had to put him down.
33:36
He had cancer.
33:38
A week later,
33:39
we lost a house out here in Rio
33:40
Doce, New Mexico to a wildfire.
33:43
The day after that,
33:44
we started filming for this series.
33:46
And I always told Shan, I said,
33:48
the good Lord will never put on you
33:49
more than you can tote.
33:50
And I said,
33:52
you need to throw it on me.
33:53
You put it on me.
33:54
And so we needed to do a tribute
33:57
to this Beagle.
33:58
So we had these t-shirts made called the
34:01
Beagle Life,
34:02
had his picture on there with some
34:03
sunglasses.
34:04
And we told them all the proceeds from
34:07
these t-shirt sales will go to the Lincoln
34:09
County Humane Society here in Rio Dos,
34:11
New Mexico.
34:13
I told Shan, I said,
34:13
you better call them people and warn them.
34:15
I said, because something happened.
34:17
And we were there three weeks later and
34:19
took them a check for fifty seven thousand
34:21
dollars.
34:23
Wow, man.
34:24
And they were still making money for them.
34:26
That's outstanding.
34:28
i was i was cruising your website today
34:30
and and i saw the t-shirt yeah and
34:34
i was wanting to ask you that so
34:35
i'm glad you brought that story up because
34:36
i was trying to make the correlation to
34:38
where you know because it was out of
34:40
left field in your marketplace there
34:42
you've got all your food products and the
34:43
coffee and like i said i'm partaking of
34:46
the coffee as soon as it arrives but
34:47
uh i saw the shirt and i was
34:49
like where's that going and so too you'd
34:51
make a difference like that that's amazing
34:53
we um
34:56
Douglas Kean and that he had a huge
34:58
thing with over in Southern California
35:01
that he worked with.
35:03
And when you realize just the impact that
35:05
people have,
35:07
I think so many people see y'all as
35:09
professional chefs or TV celebrities or
35:11
whatever it is.
35:12
You're really just everyday people that
35:14
are doing something a little different
35:16
with what you've been given.
35:17
And I just love that.
35:19
Like, just, I've got my two dogs.
35:22
You said stealing a stick of butter.
35:24
Huckleberry will take a stick of butter
35:25
right off the counter.
35:26
He has no paper and everything.
35:30
Y'all look, he does not care.
35:32
I think that's beautiful.
35:33
And,
35:33
and for y'all to be able to turn
35:35
around and give that, and you knew like,
35:36
you're like,
35:37
even in the midst of you losing your
35:38
own home,
35:39
that you still had the opportunity to
35:41
think about that.
35:41
And that just,
35:43
I think that speaks to your selflessness.
35:44
And I think that goes to a lot
35:45
of what makes people who love and serve
35:49
people,
35:50
the ability to love and serve people.
35:52
It's just that,
35:52
that opportunity to be selfless.
35:54
So well done, sir.
35:55
Well done.
35:56
Well, we, you know, we,
35:58
We're here to give back.
36:00
That's what we're going to do most of
36:01
the time if we ever get a chance.
36:03
As long as the good Lord's giving us
36:05
air, we'll just keep going.
36:08
Your guard dog,
36:09
she or he's about to give it up.
36:11
Oh, yeah.
36:12
It's been a rough day for him.
36:14
I don't know how much guarding is going
36:15
to happen now that you've got – what's
36:17
the little fellow's name?
36:19
This is Major.
36:20
Major?
36:20
We rescued him about three years ago.
36:22
We found him in a pound.
36:24
Shan was –
36:25
feeding them dogs.
36:26
Cause nobody else was much doing anything
36:28
for them.
36:28
And, uh, we went back,
36:30
check on him that night.
36:30
Cause he's supposed to get down below
36:31
zero.
36:32
And somebody had thrown him in a kennel.
36:34
He didn't have no hair.
36:35
We didn't even know what he was.
36:36
And we brought him home.
36:38
And, uh,
36:39
If she had her way,
36:40
we'd probably have seven hundred and fifty
36:42
dogs.
36:42
That's right.
36:44
But I walked in there one morning in
36:46
the kitchen and he's just sitting there
36:47
looking at me like,
36:48
if you just give me one chance.
36:49
That's it.
36:51
Which he's really not mine.
36:52
He's Shan's.
36:53
He'll be mine when Shan's gone.
36:55
Well, I'll tell you right now,
36:57
he don't look like he's not yours.
37:01
But he goes everywhere with us.
37:02
You know, we didn't give him no training.
37:04
We'll put him in a little one of
37:05
them zip up boxes,
37:06
slide him under a seat on an airplane.
37:09
And he never could have done that to
37:10
the Beagle because he weighed fifty pounds
37:12
and he'd bite everybody he's seen.
37:15
He's not customer-friendly most of the
37:16
time.
37:17
He's just doing his job.
37:18
Don't handle that.
37:19
That's fantastic.
37:20
I love that.
37:20
That is outstanding.
37:22
Beautiful.
37:23
Yeah, that's great.
37:25
It's been a dog episode kind of day.
37:27
It has.
37:27
We've recorded a couple episodes a day,
37:29
and so the dog stories are strong today,
37:32
and I'm loving it.
37:33
Makes me want to go home and pet
37:35
on mine a little bit.
37:35
Yeah, you know, I've always told people,
37:38
I said,
37:39
if you don't know the love of a
37:40
dog, you know, you're missing out on life.
37:43
Yeah.
37:43
Cause they're always thinking of you
37:44
before they're thinking of themselves.
37:47
I tell you, I,
37:48
that I've seen different studies and who
37:51
knows if this stuff is real or not,
37:52
but they talk about how important you are
37:55
in a dog's life.
37:56
And it makes me feel bad that I
37:58
ever disciplined my dog when he was a
38:00
puppy and I know it helped him, but,
38:01
and they need correction or whatever,
38:03
just like kids.
38:04
Yeah.
38:04
But man,
38:05
when he looks at you with those big
38:06
old sad eyes, I'm like,
38:08
if you don't quit, like,
38:09
please don't do this to me right now.
38:12
So getting me right.
38:13
Exactly.
38:14
So I definitely get it.
38:17
So you've got this new episode or excuse
38:19
me, new series going with outdoor channel.
38:21
What's on the horizon down, down the way.
38:23
What,
38:24
what do you ever see a period where
38:26
you're slowing down and trying to kind of
38:29
like,
38:29
just enjoy the homestead or is it just
38:31
as part of being on the go,
38:32
just who you are?
38:33
Well, I don't, I've seen,
38:36
and I don't mean this bad towards anybody,
38:37
but I've seen too many old timers in
38:39
my country that quit what they was doing
38:42
and they didn't live long.
38:44
You know, I'm sixty eight years old.
38:46
I'll try to work a twenty year old
38:47
man to death every day.
38:49
You know, I told Shannon the other day,
38:51
I said,
38:51
I got this life insurance deal figured
38:53
out.
38:53
She said, what do you mean?
38:54
I said, the good Lord will help me.
38:55
I said,
38:56
I'm going to cook for my own funeral.
38:57
There you go.
38:59
There you go.
39:00
Ninety nine years old.
39:01
I said,
39:01
you can charge them two hundred dollars a
39:03
plate to get in or you can let
39:04
them in free and charge them five hundred
39:06
dollars a plate to get out.
39:07
That's it.
39:07
No difference.
39:08
That's it.
39:08
That's it.
39:10
But no,
39:11
I don't I don't I don't see really
39:13
slowing down.
39:14
We used to years ago when I was
39:16
cooking by myself,
39:19
if I wasn't on a ranch,
39:20
I catered somewhere every weekend.
39:21
Okay.
39:23
Um, and we don't do much of that.
39:24
We still do some for the veterans or
39:26
special, uh, children's deal,
39:28
something like that, you know, but, um,
39:31
a lot of it, you know,
39:32
we'll go right here in the white mountain
39:34
wilderness behind the house and shoot a
39:36
video, uh, with that wagon.
39:38
And the,
39:39
the new series sort of keeps us busy,
39:41
but, uh,
39:44
I just look forward to every day.
39:47
If you're not challenged in life,
39:48
you never change.
39:50
I want to challenge every day.
39:53
How much of that's rooted just in growing
39:55
up a cowboy?
39:57
I'd say eighty percent of it, at least.
40:02
I got bucked off a lot when I
40:03
was little because I didn't weigh much.
40:06
Them old timers love to throw you on
40:07
something that buck is Sunday afternoon
40:09
entertainment after church.
40:13
They taught me one thing,
40:14
and that is you never give up.
40:16
Right.
40:16
You know,
40:17
the glass is always half full here.
40:20
It's never half empty.
40:24
I love it.
40:24
I love it.
40:25
That's outstanding.
40:31
I feel like you're mesmerized by some of
40:33
these just little nuggets he's brought in.
40:35
Yeah.
40:35
I'm just, I'm just, look,
40:37
I'm just taking it all in.
40:39
You know, you brought up cup.
40:41
I was in a full cup.
40:43
I was in the restaurant the other day
40:44
and a gentleman, uh,
40:47
we were talking about a fundraiser that we
40:49
had just done.
40:50
And, and, and I had two weeks ago,
40:54
Darian,
40:54
I both had a beard that was six
40:56
to nine inches longer than it is today.
40:59
Um,
41:00
And we shaved it off for the fundraiser
41:02
and raised some money for this child.
41:04
And it was a great event and loved
41:06
it and the whole nine yards.
41:07
And he said something to me that has
41:09
really kind of resonated to me.
41:11
And I still hadn't figured out exactly
41:12
what it meant.
41:13
But I know the good Lord above is
41:14
trying to help me figure it out and
41:16
I'll figure it out.
41:16
But he kept saying that my cup was
41:19
full.
41:22
And as much as I understand that,
41:25
there's part of my brain and part of
41:27
my soul that is just not happy with
41:29
that.
41:31
I'm not happy with having a full cup.
41:34
And I don't know if it's, you know,
41:40
God will show me what he's wanting to
41:42
show me and I'll figure that out.
41:44
But I keep going back to the fact
41:46
that I don't know if having a full
41:48
cup is ever good enough.
41:52
I kind of feel like if I walk
41:55
into a room and I'm the smartest guy
41:56
in the room,
41:57
then I'm in the wrong room, right?
42:00
Yeah, I hear you.
42:02
If I got a full cup,
42:03
then my cup ain't big enough.
42:05
You know,
42:06
that's why I always go back to a
42:07
half a cup.
42:08
because I'm working on filling it up every
42:09
day.
42:10
Yes, sir.
42:12
Well, I think that,
42:13
much the way you just said,
42:13
it also gives you the opportunity to pour
42:15
out into others.
42:16
And what can you share?
42:17
Whether it's with you,
42:19
with your employees, or your children,
42:21
or with Minutes Wisely and the stuff that
42:24
you're able to do there with the
42:26
nonprofit,
42:26
and just having that opportunity to pour
42:29
out
42:29
The old saying,
42:30
you can't pour from an empty cup.
42:32
Well, to me,
42:33
the flip side of that is if you've
42:34
got a full cup,
42:35
you better be pouring out.
42:36
You better be sharing.
42:37
You better be giving.
42:38
You better be... And we do,
42:40
much like he said earlier,
42:41
we have the opportunity to serve.
42:43
We have the opportunity to give.
42:44
And I think some of us are just
42:47
blessed a little bit more to serve and
42:48
give.
42:49
And I think right now you're probably...
42:51
feeling a lot of where that's at.
42:53
He's obviously been blessed with
42:54
opportunities to give and to serve.
42:56
And I think that there's an element to
42:59
that where if somebody else can see it,
43:03
you're doing it the right way.
43:04
So don't overthink it.
43:06
I will tell you that.
43:07
Don't overthink it.
43:08
Don't fret about it because I think your
43:10
cup is full for a reason.
43:12
And if some of that splashes out on
43:14
some of us folks that need a drop
43:16
of it, you're in pretty good shape.
43:17
That's exactly right.
43:20
I had an old man tell me one
43:21
time, he said,
43:22
just be who you are every day.
43:23
And he said, try to be good.
43:24
Try to make God proud because you might
43:26
be the only Jesus they ever see.
43:30
You know,
43:30
can we just take this whole episode and
43:32
just every minute and a half,
43:35
just drop every minute and a half.
43:37
It's going to be fantastic.
43:39
Uh, now when did you,
43:41
when did you first,
43:43
when did you first make your appearance
43:45
into network television?
43:46
Oh, let me see.
43:49
Ninety-three, maybe something like that.
43:51
Yeah.
43:51
Okay.
43:51
Go ahead, sir.
43:57
Oh,
43:57
I was just gonna ask it from then,
44:00
from then to now,
44:02
as your as your opinion changed,
44:04
because it seems like,
44:06
from my knowledge is you did a lot
44:08
of like cooking competition style shows.
44:12
And then now you've kind of turned that
44:14
more into the storytelling to help others,
44:17
which which just, you know,
44:20
adds more into my cup and makes me
44:22
feel wonderful.
44:23
Because I love when people try to do
44:24
stuff like that.
44:25
Well,
44:26
I think when you're on any kind of
44:28
competition, I mean, sure,
44:29
you've got a chance to better yourself or
44:32
worsen yourself, one or the other,
44:34
you know, depending on how they edit it,
44:37
because a lot of times they'll put things
44:38
in there you didn't even say.
44:39
That's right.
44:41
I learned that a long time ago,
44:42
you know,
44:42
and I had a producer tell me one
44:44
time, she said,
44:45
you're the only person I ever know that
44:46
don't change when the camera comes by.
44:48
I said, hell,
44:48
I ain't changed socks in three weeks,
44:50
you know,
44:50
I ain't gonna change nothing else,
44:52
you know.
44:53
But when we can take something that we
44:57
create and get it produced how we want
45:01
it to be produced with our message,
45:05
it is so much easier to relate to
45:07
people because they're not thinking, oh,
45:11
he's going to talk some trash about this
45:13
person or he's going to say this about
45:14
somebody.
45:15
We're here to lift people up.
45:17
You know,
45:18
I've always been taught to laugh.
45:19
You never look down on people unless
45:21
you're reaching a hand out there to help
45:24
them up.
45:25
There's so many people,
45:27
and I don't mean this bad towards none
45:28
of them,
45:29
that in reality TV to where when you're
45:32
in an interview or something, well,
45:35
what do you think was wrong with his
45:36
food?
45:37
I say, I'm not a judge.
45:39
I'm a contestant or do you think they
45:42
should?
45:42
I said,
45:43
you're going to ask them questions all day
45:45
long.
45:45
It's going to be real short interviews.
45:46
Hope you have a good day.
45:47
I'll see you next week.
45:51
I don't know if I answered your question
45:53
or not.
45:53
You know,
45:55
that gives me some context for sure.
45:56
Um, do you,
45:59
so are you producing this show yourself?
46:03
Uh, no.
46:05
The production company that we have,
46:07
Rabbit Foot Productions,
46:09
they're based out of Austin.
46:12
The main producer, Clay, is in California.
46:15
When we sat down and really knew what
46:18
this was about,
46:19
he didn't want to change a thing.
46:21
The people at the Outdoor Channel,
46:23
when they'll send a producer out because
46:26
they finish it in-house for them and they
46:28
know we're not going to change this.
46:31
We're not going to take out the part
46:32
to where he's got his hat off and
46:34
he's praying over food around cowboys.
46:37
Or when he's got his hat tipped and
46:38
he's saluting that flag.
46:41
I trust them.
46:41
They trust me to make this as good,
46:45
wholesome, clean TV show.
46:47
You know,
46:48
and I think the world needs a whole
46:49
lot more of that.
46:50
That's got a message in it.
46:51
That's simplicity, authenticity, and hey,
46:55
just everyday good time.
46:58
You talk about your hat here.
47:00
What tells the better story,
47:01
your hat or your boots?
47:03
Well,
47:07
I have a hat that's in there in
47:08
the house that I've had.
47:10
My dad bought me four days before he
47:12
died.
47:13
I was fixing to go speak to these
47:14
people at this deal.
47:15
And he said, well,
47:16
you ain't wearing that old hat you got.
47:18
He said,
47:18
I'm going to buy you a new hat.
47:20
And me or him,
47:21
neither one didn't have enough money to
47:23
buy a hat at the time anyway.
47:24
I don't know where he got it at,
47:26
but that hat sits in the house.
47:28
I wore it for eighteen years straight.
47:31
You know, I'm pretty hard on hats.
47:34
We call them a cowboy helmet most of
47:36
the time.
47:36
But, you know, it's a lot of blood,
47:38
a lot of sweat, a lot of smoke.
47:40
But I never judge a man from outward
47:43
appearance.
47:44
Uh,
47:44
I judge a man by what's in his
47:46
heart and the way he shakes your hand.
47:48
Uh,
47:48
them people that give me one of them
47:49
little fish hands, you know,
47:52
fish is hard to handle.
47:54
I try to break their knuckles if I
47:55
get a chance, but a long,
47:58
long time ago,
47:59
we was leaving the house to go gather
48:01
some cattle.
48:01
And I was nine or ten years old
48:03
and, uh,
48:04
sitting in there with my dad and said,
48:05
attorney and going towards red river.
48:07
We turned and went the other direction.
48:09
And I said, where are we going?
48:10
He said, we're going to get help.
48:12
He said,
48:12
it's going to be a long day.
48:14
So we wound down around this old pasture
48:16
and go down the bottom of this old
48:17
draw and there's a lantern light you can
48:19
just barely see in the darkness down
48:21
there.
48:21
And here comes an elderly old black man
48:24
leading a white mule that's got on
48:26
overalls and a conductor's cap.
48:28
And you know, when you're young,
48:31
your butt kicks in before your brain and
48:33
your mouth should, you know?
48:34
And I said,
48:35
I've never seen that guy before.
48:37
If he's going to be help,
48:39
I hope it's good help.
48:40
And my daddy reached over there and sort
48:41
of grabbed me by the ear,
48:42
like he's going to pull it off.
48:43
And he said,
48:45
that man will teach you more about roping
48:47
horses and cattle than anybody you've met.
48:51
Never judge a man by the hat on
48:52
his head, the boots on his feet,
48:55
or whatever he's riding.
48:56
And I never seen that man.
48:58
We put cattle in a pen.
49:00
There's roping them,
49:01
dragging fire to brand them.
49:03
He roped all day long.
49:04
Over here, over there, underhanded,
49:07
overhanded,
49:08
never missed off that white mule.
49:10
Me and him become dear friends.
49:12
I called him Uncle Red from that day
49:14
forward.
49:15
We were horseback a lot.
49:17
But hey, hats might tell a story.
49:21
You know, I don't know.
49:25
I think a thing that brings back a
49:26
hat to me,
49:27
I was on an airplane coming from Kamloops,
49:29
British Columbia.
49:30
I'd went up there to entertain for a
49:31
festival one time and got back on there
49:35
to fly to Seattle.
49:37
And this young kid come down the aisle
49:39
and he said, excuse me, sir,
49:41
you might not sit here.
49:42
And I said, no, sir,
49:43
I don't mind talking.
49:44
And I had my hat off.
49:45
He's just sitting there on my knee.
49:47
And he said, is that your hat?
49:50
And I said, yes, sir.
49:52
He said,
49:52
I'm going to ask you a question.
49:55
He said, I'm a philosophy major.
49:56
And he said,
49:57
I have to write a story for a
50:00
midterm exam.
50:02
Can I interview you?
50:03
I said, I don't care.
50:04
He said,
50:05
how come do you take that hat off?
50:08
I said, young fella, I said,
50:10
you tip your hat to a lady.
50:11
You always take your hat off when you
50:12
go inside.
50:13
You never put your hat on a bed.
50:15
And I said,
50:16
you never let somebody else wear it.
50:19
I said, that is your prized possession.
50:21
He said, okay.
50:22
He said,
50:23
what do you want wrote on your tombstone
50:25
when you die?
50:26
I said, nothing.
50:27
He said, what do you mean nothing?
50:29
I said, why go through life
50:32
and not make a difference then for people
50:34
to know about you before you die than
50:37
to put something on a rock that's standing
50:38
out there and say when you died.
50:40
I said,
50:40
make a difference before that time,
50:42
not after that time.
50:44
He said,
50:44
do you mind if I write that down?
50:45
I said,
50:46
you write down anything you want to.
50:47
I don't care.
50:48
We got to Seattle.
50:49
He said, I sure do appreciate it.
50:50
I said, that'll be a hundred dollars.
50:52
He just looked at me.
50:53
He said,
50:54
I didn't know it was going to cost
50:55
anything.
50:55
And I said, oh, you're all right.
50:59
You know,
50:59
hats and boots were something that were
51:02
handed down to me for years.
51:05
You know,
51:05
I'd wear my oldest brother's boots when my
51:07
feet got big enough.
51:09
I never wore my dad's hat because I
51:12
might have could have put it on and
51:13
it fit,
51:14
but I'd never been the man he was.
51:19
Gosh.
51:21
Cowboy,
51:22
you were just crushing the one-liners and
51:26
all of the wisdom is just amazing.
51:28
It's the cowboy wisdom.
51:29
Cowboy wisdom.
51:31
And along that sentiment,
51:32
I have a question that I typically ask
51:34
a lot of the business owners that come
51:37
on the show,
51:37
restaurateurs and leaders that we've had.
51:41
if there was one piece of advice that
51:43
you would say is the best advice that
51:45
you've been given,
51:47
what would you say that advice is?
51:49
Sit tall in the saddle.
51:51
Never let go.
51:53
I don't care if it's your last breath,
51:55
the love of your life.
51:57
Love every day like it's the last chance
51:59
you got.
52:00
Don't be afraid to tell somebody you love
52:02
them.
52:02
Don't be afraid to hug somebody.
52:06
So many times in life,
52:07
I think people go through it and they
52:08
think,
52:09
Well, men aren't supposed to show emotion.
52:13
You can't just go tell somebody what you
52:16
think about them.
52:17
You never know when the good Lord is
52:19
going to call you home.
52:21
You need to tell them today.
52:23
Don't hesitate.
52:24
That's what I tell people.
52:27
Every day is a meal.
52:28
Every day is a holiday and every meal
52:29
is a banquet.
52:30
Make sure you show up to wash your
52:31
dishes and fill your plate.
52:34
I'm going to tell my kids that next
52:35
time we have dinner at grandma's though.
52:38
See if they agree.
52:39
Sit tall in a saddle.
52:41
Sit tall in a saddle.
52:43
Sit tall in a saddle.
52:43
That's outstanding.
52:44
It's been absolutely.
52:46
I want to thank you for your wisdom
52:47
today.
52:48
I know that a lot of times you
52:50
get just you're always in the middle of
52:53
cooking or prepping or whatever.
52:55
And from somebody who.
52:58
is a fan of the historical sides of
53:00
things and just your approach.
53:03
One thing that has not been lost on
53:05
me today is your ability to recall events
53:09
or things.
53:09
And I think so many of us just
53:11
go through our day without realizing those
53:14
details.
53:16
and to see your specifics on that.
53:19
I've really enjoyed that.
53:20
And I just want to thank you, though,
53:22
for your wisdom.
53:22
I know that a lot of your content
53:24
around your social media is driven in that
53:26
and that kind of thing.
53:27
And just to tell you a direct thank
53:29
you,
53:29
I do appreciate it because I think a
53:32
lot of the world just needs that
53:34
simplicity.
53:34
And that's what it is.
53:35
It's a simplicity that we don't see
53:38
whether we're plugged in or a screen is
53:40
on or whatever it is.
53:41
So just thank you for what you're out
53:43
there doing because it does make a
53:44
difference to a lot of us.
53:45
we,
53:46
we just having a good time every day.
53:48
You know, we're going to keep life simple.
53:50
Uh, it may not,
53:52
may not look simple at times, but, uh,
53:55
It all fits, you know.
53:57
It all fits.
53:57
You just run it around there somewhere,
53:59
or you can hem it up in a
54:00
corner and then beat it into shape and
54:01
put it in something, you know.
54:03
Sounds like you spent time in a
54:05
blacksmithing shop, too,
54:06
if I know some of that.
54:07
Yeah, and I've, you know,
54:10
in between cowboying and cooking on
54:12
ranches and riding bulls and everything
54:14
else, because my dad told me, he said,
54:15
if you're going to be a cowboy,
54:16
you better learn about thirty-five other
54:18
professions or you're going to starve to
54:19
death, you know.
54:20
Yep.
54:21
I built houses, built log homes,
54:23
built cabinets, countertops,
54:24
poured concrete, laid bricks, you know,
54:27
drove front end loader, maintainer,
54:28
bulldozer.
54:30
And I was on a ranch one time
54:31
and I won't keep y'all much longer.
54:32
And this guy told me, he said, say,
54:35
you know how to run a maintainer?
54:37
I said, yeah.
54:38
He said,
54:39
reckon after you get them dishes washed,
54:40
you could just run that,
54:41
just smooth that road out.
54:45
So I reckon, you know, so I,
54:47
I smooth road out where they get back
54:49
in big bull hauling trucks up there.
54:51
About three days later,
54:52
he come up here and he said,
54:53
you know,
54:53
we're going to put them cows in that
54:55
trap over, but it's full of mesquite.
54:57
Can you run a bulldozer?
54:58
And I said, yeah.
54:59
He said, Reggie,
55:00
you clean them mesquites off her?
55:01
And I said, yeah.
55:02
Three days later, he went, no.
55:03
He said, can you work on windmills?
55:05
And I said, yeah.
55:07
Well, two days after that,
55:08
there was an old man that's ninety six
55:09
years old come into camp and he had
55:11
been watching all this going on for three
55:13
or four days.
55:13
And he said, young fellow,
55:14
I'm going to tell you something.
55:15
Sometimes it pays to be stupid.
55:19
I think the easier way to say that
55:22
is givers better have a limit because
55:26
takers have none.
55:27
So that is true.
55:28
That's what you're looking at.
55:30
Uh, we do a thing,
55:31
a Friday feel good every week, uh,
55:33
where I wrap it up and I've tried
55:35
to work it into this one.
55:36
This is our good time to go ahead
55:38
and do this next one.
55:40
Um,
55:40
y'all may have heard of a guy named
55:42
Tyler Childers, uh,
55:43
big in the music scene right now.
55:44
He had a thing this week and I
55:46
just had to, uh,
55:47
I wrote most of it down word for
55:49
word, uh,
55:50
hate is a bad chemical inside of you
55:54
you don't need that the other person
55:56
doesn't even know and they don't care it
55:59
bothers them not nary a bit but it
56:03
does bother you and it's killing you
56:05
slowly you got to get that out of
56:08
there expel all that and your expel all
56:12
that ugliness that you're holding on to so
56:15
y'all know what to do find somebody you
56:16
know tell them you love them let's go
56:18
So there it is.
56:20
So I love it.
56:20
Good deal.
56:22
But cowboy man,
56:23
I appreciate you more than you, you,
56:25
you can imagine.
56:26
Thank you so much for coming to hang
56:27
out with us for a little bit.
56:29
My pleasure.
56:30
And like I say, you, you email me,
56:31
my friend, we'll try to work that in.
56:33
I definitely will.
56:34
I definitely will.
56:35
Y'all make sure you check out your show,
56:38
the new show,
56:38
which the title of it is.
56:40
Catch starting cowboy.
56:42
cast iron cowboy it's only out outdoor
56:45
channel eight thirty central uh i think on
56:47
on monday night nice i love it uh
56:51
socials cowboy kent rollins easy way okay
56:53
we just want to make sure everybody can
56:54
reach out to you yeah make sure you
56:56
follow my man you won't be disappointed in
56:58
his content it's excellent he's got some
57:00
pretty good recipes he's got a fantastic
57:02
cat head biscuit recipe
57:06
I'm going to have to go home and
57:07
make some just to have them.
57:09
But look, we appreciate you joining us.
57:12
Guys,
57:13
if you want to get involved with our
57:14
show,
57:14
please feel free to reach out to me.
57:16
You can reach me at charlie at
57:18
singletreebbq.com.
57:20
If you want to call me,
57:20
call me at six one five three zero
57:22
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57:24
Make sure that you like share and
57:25
subscribe to the channel.
57:27
And until next time, guys,
57:28
we'll see you then.
57:29
Y'all be good.
57:31
Take care.
57:31
Appreciate it.
57:32
God bless y'all.
57:33
You too.
57:36
All good.
57:37
Awesome.
57:38
Thank you so much, sir.
57:40
Thank you so much.
57:42
You're an easy talk to,
57:43
I could have just kept this going.
57:44
So we appreciate it.