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#343 - BLK ODYSSY · The Bootleg Kev Podcast

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Speaker 1: What's going on is Juwan Alejandra, We're Black Odyssey catches
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Speaker 1: on the Bootleg keV podcast Appreciation.
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Speaker 2: That's not the plan Bootleg camp podcast special guests here
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Speaker 2: Black I see it's good man, welcome. You know what,
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Speaker 2: I gotta admit something to you guys. I didn't realize
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Speaker 2: you guys were like a group. I just thought you
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Speaker 2: were Black Odyssey. It's kind of like an atmosphere type thing.
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Speaker 3: Get that.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Like there's slug and ant and there's so Black
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Speaker 2: Odyssey is a.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a duo.
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Speaker 2: It's a Tucson Yeah. I heard they call you guys
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Speaker 2: the gruesome Toosome. Why I've never heard that.
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Speaker 3: In my life.
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Speaker 2: So how long has Black odyesstly been a thing?
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Speaker 3: Since twenty fifteen?
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Speaker 2: So twenty fifteen, you guys, did you guys meet in Austin?
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Speaker 3: Yeah?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I started as a rock band together. I
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Speaker 1: was working in the village. He was working in the
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Speaker 1: pizza shop.
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Speaker 2: Nice and I was going in there getting which pizza
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Speaker 2: spot was. It was it like on sixth somewhere? Nah,
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Speaker 2: it was.
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Speaker 4: It's kind of out like in the bougie part of Austin.
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Speaker 2: Like, you guys, would you consider I know you guys
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Speaker 2: aren't from Austin, You're from Florida, You're from Jersey. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: you guys have been there for almost a decade, right,
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Speaker 2: you guys have probably seen the like crazy growth facts
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Speaker 2: twenty fifteen was like peak good south By years, well
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Speaker 2: towards the end of the great the Great south By years.
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Speaker 2: But is it kind of crazy to see the growth
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Speaker 2: of tech like Austin is wild? Like I just think
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Speaker 2: like we're fader for it is. There's like a whole
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Speaker 2: foods and a target now, It's like it's kind of wild.
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Speaker 2: Like what do you how do you guys feel about
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Speaker 2: like seeing that growth in the city that you know,
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Speaker 2: you guys call home because it is like, especially during
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Speaker 2: the pandemic, I feel like everybody moved there.
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Speaker 1: I mean shit to me, it's been interesting because we've
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Speaker 1: seen like the economic development in the city blow up crazy.
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Speaker 1: But as for musicians, the infrastructure for industry there has
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Speaker 1: been stagnant the whole time through So it's been interesting
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Speaker 1: to see a growth side by side and how much
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Speaker 1: like the music industry has got pushed out of Austin
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Speaker 1: since you know, the economic development went crazy, So that
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Speaker 1: has just been a super interesting perspective in general, because we.
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Speaker 2: Think like Austin's like a live city or a live
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Speaker 2: music city, right right, right right, But now it's like
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Speaker 2: comedy's there. There's all this text shit going on, like yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 2: Rent's probably going up, is it that?
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Speaker 3: Yeah?
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Speaker 2: How many times have you guys ate a barbecue and
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Speaker 2: an alley off of a trash pail?
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Speaker 3: I ho fuck with that?
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Speaker 2: Salty as shit, bro, Really you don't like barbecue.
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Speaker 3: I liked it the first year I moved there.
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Speaker 2: I feel like I've been in an alley eating off
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Speaker 2: of a trash candlid like seventeen times. And I don't
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Speaker 2: even live there.
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Speaker 1: It's a gain like thirty pounds when I moved to Texas.
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Speaker 3: I used to be fit.
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Speaker 2: Well, you're not like fat. Yeah, I'm getting there though,
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Speaker 2: me and you are both getting there. I like the
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Speaker 2: jacket it hides the getting there.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I wear xls now.
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Speaker 2: So break down your guys's roles when it comes to
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Speaker 2: Black Odyssey.
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Speaker 1: So I approached Alejandro, who's a guitar player. Like I mentioned,
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Speaker 1: we started as a.
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Speaker 2: Rock band and that was the name. Was the name
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Speaker 2: Black Oysty. When you guys were in the band or
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Speaker 2: you didn't.
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Speaker 3: Have a name.
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Speaker 1: I was going by Sam Houston at the time. Its
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Speaker 1: fucked up, but I was going by Sam.
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Speaker 2: Houston with the band behind you.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, So I had these tracks.
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Speaker 1: I'm a producer and a songwriter, but it lacked in
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Speaker 1: live instrumentation. So I was trying to tap in with
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Speaker 1: some people in town that that could bring that element.
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Speaker 1: And his his the way he plays guitar adds a
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Speaker 1: different live element to the records that goes further than
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Speaker 1: just guitar playing. So almost like using your instrument to create,
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Speaker 1: you know, achieve different production things that you can't really
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Speaker 1: do in the box.
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, you shred shred, but like soulful shred and just
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Speaker 5: like like you said, atmospheric and like kind of making
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Speaker 5: the guitar just like a production tool.
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Speaker 4: And that's definitely evolved as we've evolved.
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Speaker 3: You know.
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Speaker 2: You guys like had some big legends on records like
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Speaker 2: George Clinton, Booty Collins. Obviously that's pretty crazy. How do
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Speaker 2: you end up making something like that happen?
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Speaker 1: Man, The commonality between all the hearts because we came
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Speaker 1: from two totally different worlds. I'm from Plainfield, New Jersey, Right,
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Speaker 1: That's what Parliament Funkadelics started, and he came from like
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Speaker 1: a rock background, so I didn't know anything about Rage
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Speaker 1: against the Machine or I thought led Zeppelin was one
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Speaker 1: person type.
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Speaker 2: Shit shit shot the Black Odyssey.
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Speaker 1: So like, yeah, man, like I learned about that, you know,
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Speaker 1: world of music, and in turn, I was showing him
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Speaker 1: D'Angel and I was showing him all that kind of shit.
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Speaker 1: So we always had a common appreciation for like funk
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Speaker 1: and like psychedelic music, and that was George Clinton and
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Speaker 1: Booty College.
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Speaker 2: What do you guys like, no a cousin who knows him,
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Speaker 2: or like, how do you get that? I feel like
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Speaker 2: those are the easiest guys to get ahold.
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Speaker 1: Of yo that asked we were on We were here
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Speaker 1: on the trip. This is George Clinton, right, and I've
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Speaker 1: seen We had been like talking to our label on
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Speaker 1: our team for a while about trying to type in
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Speaker 1: with him, and everybody's like, bro's fucking George Clinton, Like
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Speaker 1: you can't just call him right and it works, right facts.
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Speaker 1: So I've seen a video of him here for uh yeah,
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Speaker 1: their star, their star, and I showed him and I
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Speaker 1: was like, Yo, let's go down there and just go
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Speaker 1: cold up it to him and talk and we laughed
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Speaker 1: at all because we wasn't serious. But we was shopping
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Speaker 1: on Melrose that same day and his nigga just walked
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Speaker 1: by us and it's fucking like silver trench, Like, yeah,
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Speaker 1: I didn't even notice who it was at first. I'm like,
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Speaker 1: that's a funky ass outfit. And I looked and he's
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Speaker 1: walked by me and I'm like, yo, that's that was
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Speaker 1: George Joran just walking down Melrose bro It was nuts,
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Speaker 1: like and that's what I'm saying that it has to
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Speaker 1: be got, you know what I'm saying. So he's walking
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Speaker 1: past and I look at all halls and I'm like,
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Speaker 1: I'm not really kind of nigga that that was like
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Speaker 1: wait for a celebrity to talk to him. But I'm like,
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Speaker 1: I have to do this, you feel me. So he
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Speaker 1: went into the store and was shopping, and I just
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Speaker 1: waited outside like I was on the phone calls capin.
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Speaker 3: I wasn't on the phone. I just wanted to see normal.
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Speaker 1: So I was waiting on the phone, and as soon
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Speaker 1: as he walked out, I acted like I saw him
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Speaker 1: by mistake, and then I went up to him and
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Speaker 1: I started, you know, talking, and he didn't. He wasn't
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Speaker 1: very responsive. Like I told him I was from Plainfield
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Speaker 1: and I told him like I knew some people in
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Speaker 1: his family and shit, and he just kind of was
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Speaker 1: like yeah, and he just he just I told him
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Speaker 1: I wanted to work on the record with him, and
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Speaker 1: I didn't like. I was like that, that's not how
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Speaker 1: I thought that was gonna turn out.
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Speaker 2: It didn't go well in your opinion at the time, No,
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Speaker 2: not at all.
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Speaker 3: It didn't.
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Speaker 1: It didn't seem to do anything. Two weeks later, I
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Speaker 1: told him who we were. I told him the name,
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Speaker 1: and his daughter was with him too, so I said,
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Speaker 1: you know the name to his daughter. Two weeks later,
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Speaker 1: she dms me on Instagram out of nowhere. She's like, yo, George,
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Speaker 1: George is down to do a record, which played with Ship.
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Speaker 1: He hears the similarities, like that's what you're doing. George
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Speaker 1: is down and do a record. So we sent him
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Speaker 1: the record that day, hopped on FaceTime and.
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Speaker 2: Pretty much cooler on FaceTime. Yeah, it was.
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Speaker 1: My dad used to follow him back in the seventies.
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Speaker 1: So I told him all that and.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was nuts, bro, your dad would go to
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Speaker 2: like shows and Ship.
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Speaker 3: He was just follow them. On the road with my mom.
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Speaker 2: Really, your parents must have been raging high as fuck,
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Speaker 2: doing all the good drugs.
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Speaker 3: All of them, bro, all of them. It was nuts.
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Speaker 2: Paoti shrooms Payot Paoti is like a you know, it's
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Speaker 2: like a I think it's a cactus, right, Yeah, it's
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Speaker 2: crazy you eat it and your trip balls. That's what
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Speaker 2: they like. That's what they used to do, yot. The
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Speaker 2: mothership connection, the mothership connection? What about Booty Collins?
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Speaker 3: We just we DM George and we were like, Yo.
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Speaker 2: Do you know Booty? I mean, do you do you
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Speaker 2: know his number? Or can you connect me?
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Speaker 3: Connect you for sure?
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Speaker 2: No, I'm saying like, hey, thanks for doing the song.
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Speaker 2: By the way, can you connect it with Booty?
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Speaker 3: Literally?
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I was like, yo, can you connect me with Boosy?
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Speaker 1: He was like yeah, got you just give me a
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Speaker 1: few days. He did a DM connection and shout, George,
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Speaker 1: bro huge, I'm telling you, like, this is so much love.
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Speaker 1: So he connected us and he hit us right. He
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Speaker 1: hit his back right away, relatively, and he was like, yeah,
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Speaker 1: I'm down. I think six months went by between responses
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Speaker 1: and we pretty much figured like that he wasn't going
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Speaker 1: to do it right, do it? Meaning narrate the whole
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Speaker 1: record and ship like that. And I as we were
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Speaker 1: wrapping up the record, we had already tapped him with
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Speaker 1: Keisha Pump from Grizelda to to to be the narrator
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Speaker 1: of our of our concept album, and we have figured
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Speaker 1: that that Bouchi wasn't gonna do it because they had
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Speaker 1: they hadn't responded in six months. But as we're getting
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Speaker 1: ready to go into mixing for the record, he hits
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Speaker 1: us and he's like, Yo, y'all still want me to
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Speaker 1: do this? Can I can do it like tonight? So yeah,
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Speaker 1: that she just fell in our laps. He just sent
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Speaker 1: it right back.
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Speaker 2: Uh are you are you, buddy? Are you like pretty
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Speaker 2: hip to all the rap ship because you guys getting
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Speaker 2: Benny the Butcher on records and like you know that.
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Speaker 4: Man. I mean obviously I just evolved as a person,
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Speaker 4: especially since moving to Austin, right, you know, because Panama City,
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Speaker 4: as you know, Southern Alabama just uh, you know, not
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Speaker 4: as exposed over there.
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Speaker 2: Fucking get her duns out there. Absolutely, there's some getter
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Speaker 2: dons in Austin, though I think people forget Austin's to Texas.
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Speaker 2: Sometimes you're in Austin you're like, oh, this is this
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Speaker 2: is a vibe and then you're like eve and you're like, oh,
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Speaker 2: there's some other ship going here.
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Speaker 1: That's why I think it's cool about him though he
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Speaker 1: doesn't give a fuck. We could be in a room
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Speaker 1: with Freddy. He was in a room with Freddy. I
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Speaker 1: didn't even think he really knew who he was. It's
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Speaker 1: just like, what's up exactly what do you do? Yeah?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's school as fun.
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Speaker 2: Who's in charge of the artwork, Because your guys' artwork
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Speaker 2: is super dope. It's very consistent in terms of like
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Speaker 2: colors and I feel like vibe, Like I think that's
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Speaker 2: like what caught me initially was just like, oh ship
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Speaker 2: like because I feel like that's kind of like your
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Speaker 2: first impression for anybody you know, is that? Is that?
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Speaker 2: Do you handle that? Do you guys handle that together?
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Speaker 1: It's collectively my manager over there, Like it's something that
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Speaker 1: we all sit down as a team and look at,
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Speaker 1: like we we discussed what we want to capture in
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Speaker 1: a still, and like we brained him different ways to
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Speaker 1: do it.
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Speaker 2: You guys said up photo shoots for that and then
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Speaker 2: just go through a bunch of options.
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Speaker 3: And yeah, for sure. This particul the album cover.
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Speaker 1: It's like an erotic novel, so we wanted to like
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Speaker 1: capture the the the picture of like lusting and like
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Speaker 1: not being able to escape your addictions and it's still so.
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Speaker 2: So that's the theme of this new album. Yeah, erotic.
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Speaker 2: Have you guys ever read any erotic novels as a
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Speaker 2: point of reference?
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Speaker 3: Never?
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Speaker 1: Never, I've seen Fifty Shades Are Great? Now, Yeah, that's
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Speaker 1: all I need. Terrible movie, really bad, like all time bad.
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Speaker 3: So many bitsches in there though, so I was like, I'm.
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Speaker 2: Gone, Yeah, definitely for the theater. The theater is definitely.
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Speaker 2: I just I can't speak to the movie it was.
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Speaker 2: I was expecting a lot because the book was so popping.
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Speaker 2: Now that ship was cheeks bro.
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Speaker 3: It was weird.
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Speaker 2: Weird. What's worse, Fifty Shades Are Great? Or The Weekend's
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Speaker 2: new show?
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Speaker 3: I didn't see that. I saw this clip of him
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I just watched the first episode a couple days ago,
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Speaker 2: and I loved the Weekend and I hope it gets better.
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Speaker 2: But the first episode was crazy. What is it called
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Speaker 4: that's right, Yeah, that's that's what. It really got me
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Speaker 2: being black and being in a group called black?
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Speaker 3: Honestly?
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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm Cubans are like, right, but not black.
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Speaker 2: You're not Afro Cuban deep deep in the spirit, Okay.
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Speaker 4: I'm just kidding, Like I approach life with like soul
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Speaker 4: and like you know, I.
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Speaker 3: Mean, I feel like you black on the inside too, bro.
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Speaker 2: I mean, I I don't know. I bought an ancestry kid.
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Speaker 2: I got to spin in the tube and send it
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Speaker 2: out I'm definitely a lot of Europe or Ireland. I
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Speaker 2: think I'm Irish.
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Speaker 3: I thought Italian for some reason.
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Speaker 2: I mean, I could be wrong. I have no idea Polish.
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Speaker 1: I dated a Polish girl in high school. Her day
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Speaker 1: was so fucking racist. That sounds about right, Yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 1: sounds crazy. What's your manager over there? He looks like
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Speaker 1: he could be from fucking Scandinavia.
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Speaker 2: That motherfucker looks like he's related to Nicole Jokic. Bro,
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Speaker 2: he looks like he looks like he just want a
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Speaker 3: Me and him grew up together. We were in music
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Speaker 3: school in sixth grade.
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Speaker 2: Shout out to Jersey. Yea, how far is uh? What
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Speaker 2: part of Jersey plans plan? Where's that in terms of
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Speaker 2: like where the Sopranos took place? And then New York City?
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Speaker 1: Uh, that's about forty minutes from Bergen County where the
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Speaker 1: Sopranos took place.
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Speaker 2: And then there's like, because I've only been I just
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Speaker 2: was in where did we go to shoot with the
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Speaker 2: what's that kid's name? Just got out of prison that
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Speaker 2: we shot a shot with in Jersey? Fuck i'lb he's
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Speaker 2: on Empire. I'll be al. Yeah, yeah, we were in
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Speaker 2: some some neighborhood in Jersey.
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Speaker 3: Jersey City or Newark or some ship. I lived in
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Speaker 3: Nork for a long time.
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Speaker 2: I definitely texted Drew Ski when I was there, and
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Speaker 2: I'll tell you right now because I was like, Drew Sky,
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Speaker 2: I'm in Jersey.
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Speaker 3: Is he is he from Jersey too?
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Speaker 2: Drew Sky? Yeah? Which Drew Sky we talking about?
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Speaker 3: There's some the funny one.
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Speaker 2: No no, no, no, no, I was in Jersey Jersey City.
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Speaker 2: Is that where we were?
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Speaker 3: Yeah, Jersey City out there.
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Speaker 2: It was like a small it was a different area.
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Speaker 2: We're in there. Oh yeah, he took, He took well,
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Speaker 2: and he took He bought a honey pack. Right, Did
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Speaker 2: guys ever have a honeypack?
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Speaker 3: No? I don't even know what that is?
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Speaker 2: the last hour, what's it like getting on you know,
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Speaker 2: kind of getting one of the elite mcs and this
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Speaker 2: on too, right m M yeah, what was that process?
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Speaker 1: I mean, the common thread is definitely NeiMa, Like he's
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Speaker 1: he's fucking damn there, Steve Nash at this point.
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Speaker 2: Bro, Like, definitely a Steve Nash type of guy.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's crazy.
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Speaker 1: Like I linked up with Benny and we had just
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Speaker 1: but once Nima got involved in and just made it happen,
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Speaker 3: He did it real quick. He killed it.
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Speaker 2: You're pretty big on a lot of the Griselda shit,
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Speaker 2: all of it.
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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, Conway is probably my favorite there. Benny.
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Speaker 2: Conway's my face everybody. I mean, I love all those guys,
19:19
Speaker 2: but Conway's.
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Speaker 3: Nigga wrap his ass off, bro, and.
19:22
Speaker 2: He like makes you feel like you're like, damn, I.
19:25
Speaker 1: Want to produce for him. That's that's probably the main person.
19:28
Speaker 1: I want to What do you produce on logic? Prox logic?
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Speaker 2: Yeah, so you've been doing that for a minute, because
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Speaker 2: I feel like anybody who does sh it on logic,
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19:39
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19:42
Speaker 1: and that shit looked like fucking airplane.
19:46
Speaker 2: Yeah, able to able To, Like I feel like when
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19:51
Speaker 3: Yeah.
19:51
Speaker 1: It just doesn't make sense the interface to me, like
19:54
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, exactly, it doesn't make sense to me
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Like logic makes sense. Facts, yeah, pro tools make sense.
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Speaker 2: Even even fruit loops. You'll look at it and you'll
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: No, in facts, she'll see pro tools or you'll see
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Speaker 2: get it. No, but Ableton is the one where.
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20:20
Speaker 3: make sense.
20:21
Speaker 2: Trigonometry, bro, Yeah you know what I mean.
20:23
Speaker 1: Like physics, you do so much on it, Like I
20:27
Speaker 1: feel like if I learned how to use it, I
20:28
Speaker 1: would be such And.
20:30
Speaker 2: Then I don't understand the touch thing, Like there's like
20:32
Speaker 2: the big thing they sell and it's just got eight
20:34
Speaker 2: hundred buttons. What do I do with this? Yeah, it's
20:37
Speaker 2: not practical, and I'll be seeing like shots of the
20:40
Speaker 2: people on TikTok shooting fake producer videos. You're fucking NPC
20:45
Speaker 2: ain't hooked up full of shit, You're just pressing buttons.
20:48
Speaker 2: The beats already been made, you know what I'm talking about.
20:51
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, And then there's the DJs who like there's
20:54
Speaker 2: nothing plugged in, like what are we doing here?
20:56
Speaker 3: Like, bro, I ain't gonna lie. I've done that a
20:57
Speaker 3: couple of times with the beats.
20:59
Speaker 1: I did a J set where the whole ship was
21:01
Speaker 1: done in logic already. You just press play, just press play,
21:04
Speaker 1: And I was up there on.
21:06
Speaker 2: But you know what, that's at least I respect that
21:08
Speaker 2: because you at least put the set together.
21:10
Speaker 3: Yeah. Oh, this transition was crazy.
21:12
Speaker 2: And a lot of a lot of the bigger EDM
21:15
Speaker 2: DJs that's what they do, but they do it.
21:17
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Yeah.
21:18
Speaker 2: I've watched like I won't say their names, but like
21:20
Speaker 2: in Vegas, I've watched like some of the biggest DJs
21:23
Speaker 2: in the world just their computer is an Ableton session yep,
21:27
Speaker 2: and they just press play. Yeah. Hey look, yeah, uh,
21:34
Speaker 2: you guys got any tour stuff on the way?
21:36
Speaker 3: Yep? We start in September during US and Europe Canada, Are.
21:40
Speaker 2: You guys excited to go out. Yeah. Sure, that's where
21:44
Speaker 2: we thrive for sure. So is it just YouTube? Do
21:46
Speaker 2: you guys bring a full, full, full band?
21:49
Speaker 3: Yeah?
21:49
Speaker 2: I feel like the full band is definitely like especially
21:52
Speaker 2: it's got to be the key man because I feel
21:53
Speaker 2: like when I first saw the Roots, I was twelve, wow,
21:56
Speaker 2: and I was like, this is the crazy shit I've
21:58
Speaker 2: ever seen like hip hop band, Like you know. I mean,
22:02
Speaker 2: obviously there's been more incarnations of that since I was twelve,
22:05
Speaker 2: but at the time when I was twelve, it was
22:07
Speaker 2: kind of crazy to see, right.
22:08
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love to see the younger like kids feel
22:12
Speaker 1: that for the first time. When we dropped Black Vinces,
22:14
Speaker 1: a lot of those kids fucked with it a lot.
22:16
Speaker 1: It's reminiscent of Outcasts and Kendrick. So they came to
22:19
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22:21
Speaker 1: other shows, so they hadn't seen like off of ups
22:24
Speaker 1: come out and they're doing full orchestrated you know, run
22:28
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22:29
Speaker 2: So I was gonna say, for the type of music
22:30
Speaker 2: you guys are making, I feel like there's definitely like
22:32
Speaker 2: a huge lane now as to where maybe when you
22:35
Speaker 2: first started or even like three or four or five
22:37
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22:40
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22:47
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22:52
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22:54
Speaker 1: We're still trying to find our tribe too, bro Like,
22:56
Speaker 1: it's difficult with this kind of music because it's not
22:59
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23:02
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23:06
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23:09
Speaker 1: to you know ingest that's why the live show is important,
23:11
Speaker 1: right exactly. But the the question is like how do
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Speaker 3: So we're still trying to find our tribe.
23:18
Speaker 1: I mean, our fan base has grown tremendously, you know,
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23:25
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23:30
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Speaker 1: Great, Bro's it's like we spend you know, an insane
24:51
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24:59
Speaker 1: been like the people that it does come across the
25:04
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25:06
Speaker 1: I've heard in decades. This is like this, this reminds
25:09
Speaker 1: me it's the best album. But it's it's trying to
25:13
Speaker 1: get it in front of more people and trying to
25:15
Speaker 1: figure out the ways because I'm so appreciative of you
25:18
Speaker 1: like tapping in with us, because it's tough to get
25:20
Speaker 1: people to like.
25:21
Speaker 2: I thought I was just tapping in with you. I
25:22
Speaker 2: didn't know there wasn't US, So I'm glad that there's
25:25
Speaker 2: an US.
25:25
Speaker 3: Yeah.
25:26
Speaker 2: Yeah, do you guys get that a lot? By the way, yeah,
25:31
Speaker 2: every day. I was like, we try to keep the
25:33
Speaker 2: project serious though, that's what I say, you guys like,
25:36
Speaker 2: it's definitely like you guys have a very mysterious brand.
25:40
Speaker 2: So I guess you can't be surprised if people don't
25:43
Speaker 2: understand kind of the full dynamics, because if they're just
25:45
Speaker 2: passive fans and they're like, yo, I came up because
25:47
Speaker 2: I mean, you guys have some records that have done
25:50
Speaker 2: well on the streaming side. You know, for sure, who
25:53
Speaker 2: would for you, like, would there be any sort of
25:56
Speaker 2: like dream collaboration that you are working on or want
26:01
Speaker 2: to see happen soon within within reason? You know, everybody
26:04
Speaker 2: wants to work with Andre three thousands and you know
26:06
Speaker 2: I knew, by the way, he's got a new album
26:11
Speaker 2: on the way, Killer Mike said that.
26:12
Speaker 3: I was just saying that on the way here.
26:14
Speaker 2: Yeah, Killer Mike's new albums fired too, by the way, Crazy, Yeah, incredible.
26:18
Speaker 3: I got to listen to the whole thing, but yeah,
26:20
Speaker 3: he's incredible.
26:21
Speaker 1: Dream collaboration, Andre, Yeah, I mean I see it happening
26:26
Speaker 1: for sure, and Kendrick as well. I see that for
26:28
Speaker 1: sure coming through. Uh. As far as like production though,
26:32
Speaker 1: because we're a production dude. We just finished executive producing
26:36
Speaker 1: Rahap City's new album.
26:37
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and she's on she on this album for
26:40
Speaker 2: the last album. She's on this album.
26:42
Speaker 3: Two features to.
26:43
Speaker 2: Rhaps she's one of them. Once Crazy and you guys
26:47
Speaker 2: work with the Alchemist. Yeah, so what was that? Did
26:50
Speaker 2: he handled the full production on that one, and you
26:52
Speaker 2: just kind of did your thing out.
26:53
Speaker 3: He sent he sent the record.
26:55
Speaker 1: I had sent him a joint and I was like, yo,
26:59
Speaker 1: like I want to do a switch up right here,
27:01
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27:03
Speaker 1: I sent to him and he was like, Yo, the
27:04
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27:06
Speaker 1: you want to? I was like, bro, to work with
27:08
Speaker 1: you would be what we need, right. So he sent
27:12
Speaker 1: a bunch of stuff back, and he's very hard to
27:15
Speaker 1: get in touch with it, so I know then I
27:18
Speaker 1: didn't hear.
27:19
Speaker 3: From him for a while.
27:19
Speaker 1: So we just threw some stuff over it and sent
27:23
Speaker 1: it back to him and he was working with it.
27:24
Speaker 1: He threw a couple more things.
27:25
Speaker 2: In it, and did you shred over? It's some Alchemists?
27:29
Speaker 3: That was actually the song that I got to shred
27:30
Speaker 3: over crazy. Yeah it's him.
27:34
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's them talking like having this like psychedelic sexual conversation.
27:38
Speaker 2: And you're shredding in the background.
27:39
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's discussing.
27:41
Speaker 2: Would you consider it? I feel like your music is
27:43
Speaker 2: very solid music to shroom too.
27:47
Speaker 3: For sure?
27:47
Speaker 2: Is that fair?
27:48
Speaker 3: Absolutely? Or fun?
27:51
Speaker 4: Like?
27:51
Speaker 2: I feel like I'm like a like I do enjoy
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27:56
Speaker 2: guys are ship, I'm like, man, there's some shit I
27:58
Speaker 2: can listen to. Like looking at the Star, it's just
28:00
Speaker 2: fucking yeah, tripping.
28:01
Speaker 3: Ball to make it take you out there.
28:03
Speaker 4: It's like cinematic as possible.
28:05
Speaker 2: So it's like, you guys are like the fucking soulful
28:08
Speaker 2: tam and Paula. Because I didn't know Tame and Paula
28:10
Speaker 2: was one dude, So it's kind of the opposite, right,
28:11
Speaker 2: It's kind of like I always thought Taming Pola was
28:14
Speaker 2: like thirty motherfuckers, So when I found out it was
28:16
Speaker 2: one guy, my whole world melted.
28:19
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was nuts. When I found out.
28:20
Speaker 2: Too, I was like, this guy's a maniac.
28:23
Speaker 3: It's crazy to him.
28:24
Speaker 2: Man. So you said, Andre, well, you know what's crazy
28:28
Speaker 2: is like, has anybody from Dreamville reached out to you guys,
28:30
Speaker 2: because I feel like you guys are definitely like, yeah,
28:32
Speaker 2: you guys should do dream Bill fast or something.
28:35
Speaker 1: I think we yeah, yeah, I don't know what happened.
28:37
Speaker 1: I wanted to do that. They hit us up for
28:39
Speaker 1: some shit. I don't think I went through. Somebody from
28:41
Speaker 1: Dreamville did reach out. I got this weird superstition about
28:45
Speaker 1: signing to artists.
28:47
Speaker 2: I'm not even talking about that. I just mean like
28:48
Speaker 2: to work or to collaborate.
28:50
Speaker 1: I would love to and those are That's what I'm saying, Like,
28:52
Speaker 1: those are the kind of top ends like that we
28:54
Speaker 1: would fucking like we would love to have.
28:56
Speaker 3: We just I don't know. It just feels like at
29:00
Speaker 3: this point, I mean Earthkake.
29:01
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, they talked in with us, but I've been
29:05
Speaker 1: wanting Cold to see us for a minute.
29:07
Speaker 3: I don't know.
29:08
Speaker 2: Jid is incredible. You guys work with Mariva, right, Yeah,
29:11
Speaker 2: Mariva is a part of a spillage village with Jid
29:13
Speaker 2: and Black and everybody. So yeah, Mariva's incredible.
29:17
Speaker 3: Fu bro, She's such a good writer.
29:19
Speaker 2: Yeah she's crazy.
29:21
Speaker 3: Yeahs On that.
29:23
Speaker 2: Shout out to Mariva, I was gonna say, uh, there
29:27
Speaker 2: is I agree with you on your point about not
29:30
Speaker 2: signing to an artist, but if there was an artist
29:32
Speaker 2: assigned too, I feel like it it would be Cold. Yeah,
29:34
Speaker 2: because I feel like Cole has done such a good
29:36
Speaker 2: job of like high art integrity artists, and like he's
29:41
Speaker 2: so out the way that like when you think of Dreamville,
29:44
Speaker 2: like you think of Cold, but like now I mean, dude,
29:47
Speaker 2: Jid is fucking massive. Ari Lennox is fucking massive, like
29:52
Speaker 2: you know, like, and I just feel like he's done
29:53
Speaker 2: such a good job of like him and Eve over there,
29:56
Speaker 2: I've done such a good job of building like just
29:58
Speaker 2: a high high have a roster of talent that isn't
30:01
Speaker 2: necessarily I'm signing you because you got a fucking hot record.
30:05
Speaker 2: You know, I'm signing you because I think I believe
30:06
Speaker 2: in you.
30:07
Speaker 1: He's so different though, j Cole, like I, he's a
30:11
Speaker 1: he's an anomaly.
30:12
Speaker 2: Like for sure. I mean he's part owner of the
30:15
Speaker 2: sharl Hornets. Now, yeah, Jordan's sold the Hornets to a
30:21
Speaker 2: group that includes j Cole.
30:22
Speaker 3: That's fucking incredible.
30:24
Speaker 1: Three billion or something crazy that cru coreat upward mobility.
30:29
Speaker 3: Man, that's a generational that he's building.
30:32
Speaker 2: When you guys are recording with all the attention to detail,
30:36
Speaker 2: you take, what is the turnaround process? Like, like you guys,
30:42
Speaker 2: does it take a week to finish the song? Does
30:44
Speaker 2: it take two weeks to finish it on take a night?
30:46
Speaker 3: Like?
30:46
Speaker 2: How does it usually go?
30:49
Speaker 3: Man?
30:49
Speaker 4: I don't know, I feel like it happens pretty quick.
30:51
Speaker 3: It does. But at the same time, we'll work on
30:53
Speaker 3: the same group of songs, like he'll bang them.
30:55
Speaker 2: Out, and so you kind of have like eighty seventy
30:58
Speaker 2: percent of a song done and then well let's work
31:00
Speaker 2: on the you know, the guitar part, cleaning up there.
31:05
Speaker 3: Just beautifying it, you know, like strings. Yeah, exactly know
31:10
Speaker 3: for sure.
31:10
Speaker 2: Is this your guys' first tour since last year's albums?
31:12
Speaker 2: There's been two albums you guys are torn on right
31:14
Speaker 2: here right?
31:14
Speaker 3: Yeah?
31:15
Speaker 2: This is our second yea, yeah, the new album is
31:17
Speaker 2: out you how many projects altogether did you guys have?
31:21
Speaker 2: Now this is our second album, second album, okay, and
31:24
Speaker 2: then you guys are starting toward September. Yeah, so go
31:30
Speaker 2: support everything. How do you guys spell your I mean
31:32
Speaker 2: for people who don't know to spell it out for
31:34
Speaker 2: people are stupid?
31:36
Speaker 1: B okay O d y s s y okay.
31:41
Speaker 2: Cuban Odyssey coming soon. I'm with it. I'm with it.
31:44
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, did you guys got biped?
31:46
Speaker 3: I heard?
31:47
Speaker 2: Yeah, what happened? You guys got robbed in the bay?
31:50
Speaker 3: Huh?
31:51
Speaker 2: So they hit the window of the sprinter bro My.
31:53
Speaker 3: Mom had just flew in.
31:55
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, we had just come from the start before that.
32:02
Speaker 2: I was probably Portland, Yeah, or Sack or something like that.
32:06
Speaker 3: Yeah, Sacramento is what it was.
32:08
Speaker 1: Actually, we have My mom is just wing to watch
32:11
Speaker 1: us play on Shorty Too, and we uh we went
32:15
Speaker 1: into a restaurant for about five minutes. Didn't like the
32:19
Speaker 1: way the food and the service looks, so we left
32:21
Speaker 1: out and it was already five minutes.
32:24
Speaker 2: I went clean up the quickest quickest ship ever underwear
32:30
Speaker 2: take it all.
32:31
Speaker 3: Yeah, suitcase hard drives with our whole album that we
32:34
Speaker 3: have to reach.
32:35
Speaker 2: Did you guys have backups?
32:36
Speaker 3: We had ship. I was wearing the same underwear for
32:39
Speaker 3: the rest of the tour. We didn't have no breath.
32:42
Speaker 2: You can't go to the store and buy some new draws.
32:44
Speaker 3: We didn't have no breath.
32:46
Speaker 2: Maybe that's why the sound guy wasn't helping you out
32:48
Speaker 2: on tour.
32:50
Speaker 1: Smells like steak just before we got with Empire though, Okay,
32:56
Speaker 1: have you guys ran into Joe Rogan around town yet?
32:59
Speaker 2: Out there?
33:00
Speaker 1: Nah? I ran into Dave Chappelle on the trails jogging though.
33:04
Speaker 2: Oh that's fucking great. Did you talk?
33:07
Speaker 3: No?
33:07
Speaker 2: No, So it wasn't like George Clinton, You're like hey, no,
33:11
Speaker 2: I'm on the phone, Like hey, I got I got
33:12
Speaker 2: an idea for an album you should do, you know,
33:16
Speaker 2: maybe narrating, he'd be crazy. We'll go get the new album.
33:22
Speaker 2: Appreciate you, guys. Go check these guys out on tour,
33:24
Speaker 2: Go follow them online. Black Odyssey.
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Speaker 3: Thanks guys, Appreciate you so thank you.
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Speaker 2: Hey. Appreciate y'all watching that. Another interview brought to you
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Speaker 2: when you're in Las Vegas, you get in that fucking uber,
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Speaker 2: you land at the airport, hit that taxi, tell them
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Speaker 3: Y'all.
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Speaker 2: Thank y'all, man, I love these guys. They're like family
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Speaker 2: to us. And hey, we're gonna drop another interview soon.
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Speaker 2: If you're watching this, you're at the end of the interview.
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Speaker 3: Though.
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Speaker 2: Much love,