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Mikaela Testa & Emilee Hembrow Clash at the Outback Steakhouse · Outspoken the Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the
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  Speaker 1: hottest influencer and pop culture news twice a week. I'm
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  Speaker 1: Kate Torber and coming up on today's show. The beef
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  Speaker 1: between Michaela Tester and Emily Hembrough boils over at the
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  Speaker 1: Outback Steakhouse.
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  Speaker 2: Georgia Riches contemplates.
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  Speaker 1: Quitting social media and Sarah's Day's injured thumb. But first,
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  Speaker 1: Molly May has broken the internet after strutting her stuff
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  Speaker 1: at the L'Oreal Paris Fashion Week Amy, I felt like
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  Speaker 1: a proud mum when I clicked on her Instagram story
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  Speaker 1: and saw that she actually made it to the runway
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  Speaker 1: this time. Yeah, because she famously turned down the opportunity
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  Speaker 1: just last year to walk in the same show. And
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  Speaker 1: this was featured in her documentary. Let's have a listen
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  Speaker 1: to what Molly said at the time.
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  Speaker 3: I couldn't relate more to what Molly said about being
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  Speaker 3: postpartum and when do you stop counting yourself out as
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  Speaker 3: being postpartum?
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  Speaker 2: Because I'm 15 months and I'm.
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  Speaker 4: Like, But still, it just seems like such a big
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  Speaker 4: life change. I'm getting used to it.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Well, she did what every postpartum mum normally does and
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  Speaker 1: she's gone the chop. So that was the other thing
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  Speaker 1: that shocked people. She strutted on the runway with this
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  Speaker 1: amazing bob. Oh, it looked so good. How many people
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  Speaker 1: are going to be copying that hairstyle? I've got to
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  Speaker 1: put it out there. I think Sophie may copy it. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: that's what I was going to say. Like when is
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  Speaker 1: Sophie booking into the hairdresser to get that bob? It
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  Speaker 1: was this beautiful like flick at the end. And I thought,
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  Speaker 1: is that her real hair or is that a wig?
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  Speaker 1: But her hairstylist, Jack Luckhurst, has confirmed. So he was
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  Speaker 1: interviewed and he said, we cut the bob because we
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  Speaker 1: wanted a wow factor moment and also fancied a change
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  Speaker 1: with day-to-day styling. This is easy for Molly to manage
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  Speaker 1: herself at home, but also give such a new image
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  Speaker 1: for her and me when creating new looks. I'm going
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  Speaker 1: to call it. I don't think Molly will keep it
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  Speaker 1: for that long. I think she'll have extensions back in
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  Speaker 1: maybe like a month. Yeah, and everyone should remember that
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  Speaker 1: who's thinking of copying Molly because she's got the coin
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  Speaker 1: to actually chuck those extensions back in.
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  Speaker 2: I wonder if she was inspired by her.
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  Speaker 1: Sister Zoe's big change because she recently went brunette and
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  Speaker 1: looks absolutely incredible.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I think this is more about marking a big identity change,
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  Speaker 1: particularly because we know that this scene is going to
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  Speaker 1: feature on her doco.
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  Speaker 2: I think this will be.
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  Speaker 1: The closing scene where they're like, wow, In the last
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  Speaker 1: two years, we've been following Molly around and look at that.
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  Speaker 1: She's now up on the stage. She sees herself as
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  Speaker 1: the person that all the audience sees her as, as
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  Speaker 1: this glamorous, successful woman. Well, I bet L'Oreal are wrapped
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  Speaker 1: because Molly is an ambassador for them and apparently her
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  Speaker 1: contract is worth seven figures. So they must be extremely
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  Speaker 1: happy that this has made worldwide news. Now, before we
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  Speaker 1: get into this story, we want to issue a trigger
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  Speaker 1: warning as we touch on issues surrounding domestic violence.
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  Speaker 5: I would like to deeply apologise to the Outback Steakhouse
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  Speaker 5: for the disturbance that happened last Thursday night. We had
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  Speaker 5: no idea this was going to happen and me and
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  Speaker 5: my partner absolutely love your restaurant and we are so
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  Speaker 5: deeply embarrassed by what happened.
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  Speaker 1: A dispute between Michaela Tester and Emily Hembrough has broken
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  Speaker 1: out at Outback Steakhouse on the Gold Coast. The incident
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  Speaker 1: comes off the back of the influencers publicly feuding online
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  Speaker 1: earlier in the year. Now, the Outback Steakhouse seems like
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  Speaker 1: a pretty good place for the influencers to have beef,
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  Speaker 1: pun intended. Before we get into the more serious nature
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  Speaker 1: of this story though, we need to talk about the
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  Speaker 1: fact that this happened at the Outback Steakhouse. So after
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  Speaker 1: everyone got over the initial shock of the incident, people
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  Speaker 1: were like, what the hell were Michaela Tester and Emily
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  Speaker 1: Hembrough doing at the Outback Steakhouse?
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  Speaker 2: Michaela even referenced.
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  Speaker 1: It in her video as her favorite restaurant on the
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  Speaker 1: Gold Coast. Now, isn't your typical influence a hotspot? No,
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  Speaker 1: I think there'd be like a brawl at Tottie's or
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  Speaker 1: somewhere like that. I know that Gold Coast doesn't have
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  Speaker 1: a Tottie's, but The Outback Steakhouse, this is like TGI
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  Speaker 1: Fridays or something. I wouldn't expect either of them to
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  Speaker 1: be seen dead there. Yeah, for full transparency, we actually
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  Speaker 1: don't have an Outback Steakhouse in Adelaide. Take a shot
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  Speaker 1: every time we say that restaurant's name. So for anyone
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  Speaker 1: not familiar with it, it's an American chain of restaurants
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  Speaker 1: that serves American cuisine in an Australian-themed atmosphere. Funnily enough,
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  Speaker 1: it was created by Americans who were inspired by the
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  Speaker 1: Crocodile Dundee movie. There's around 1,000 of these restaurants across
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  Speaker 1: 23 countries. And as you said, it kind of gives
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  Speaker 1: me TJF Friday vibes. That's the sort of meals you
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  Speaker 1: get there, like big steaks. I'm still even more confused
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  Speaker 1: finding out more about this restaurant that they would be there.
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  Speaker 2: I know, it's bizarre.
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  Speaker 1: Now, aside from the jokes made about the location of
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  Speaker 1: the incident, the argument was far from funny because it
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  Speaker 1: actually stems from a very serious matter involving the Hembrough's half-brother,
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  Speaker 1: Honre Tyne. Yeah, so Honre was arrested in July of
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  Speaker 1: 2024 and after assaulting his then-girlfriend Charlotte Chant. And while
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  Speaker 1: the matter was before the courts, a number of online
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  Speaker 1: creators came out in support of Charlotte and condemned the
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  Speaker 1: Hembros for allegedly standing by their brother. So Michaela Testa
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  Speaker 1: was one of the online creators who accused the Hembros
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  Speaker 1: of allegedly bailing Honre out of jail. So she went
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  Speaker 1: on to claim that they enabled his behavior.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And after sharing that TikTok, Michaela claimed that she was
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  Speaker 1: sleeping with a knife and baseball bat next to her
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  Speaker 1: bed as she was scared of Emily Hembrough's husband, which
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  Speaker 1: were pretty bold claims to make at the time. Off
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  Speaker 1: the back of those claims. Emily spoke cryptically about how
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  Speaker 1: she had been in discussions with her lawyer. So people
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  Speaker 1: put two and two together and were like, she must
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  Speaker 1: be serving her with defamation papers. Yeah, and at the time,
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  Speaker 1: Tammy was forced to publicly distance herself from Honre. So
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  Speaker 1: she released a TikTok video saying, I have no contact
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  Speaker 1: with my brother. I haven't seen my brother. I'm not
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  Speaker 1: involved at all in no way. So I wanted to
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  Speaker 1: make that clear. Now, following the online drama, in June
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  Speaker 1: this year, Honre pleaded guilty to a number of domestic
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  Speaker 1: violence offences, including common assault, stalking and two counts of strangulation.
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  Speaker 1: He was sentenced to three years' imprisonment, with parole commencing
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  Speaker 1: the day of the sentencing, as he had been held
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  Speaker 1: in custody for almost a year already. Now, fast forward
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  Speaker 1: to this week, and Michaela issued a public apology to
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  Speaker 1: the Outback Steakhouse after what she called a disturbance took
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  Speaker 1: place involving her and Emily Hembroke. She took to TikTok
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  Speaker 1: to share that she was deeply embarrassed about what took place.
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  Speaker 1: So from her account, it seems like things escalated to
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  Speaker 1: the point where other diners were getting involved and shouting.
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  Speaker 1: I'm surprised it's the first that we've actually heard online
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  Speaker 1: about it, considering it had been five days since the
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  Speaker 1: incident took place.
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  Speaker 2: If I was there, I would have whipped.
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  Speaker 1: My phone out so quickly to film this argument. But
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  Speaker 1: maybe the people there were just like families who had
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  Speaker 1: no idea who these people were.
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  Speaker 2: People that were arguing.
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  Speaker 1: Michaela did extend the apology to the families who were there.
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  Speaker 1: Michaela's video has gone absolutely viral and at the time
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  Speaker 1: of recording has over 4.8 million views. In terms of
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  Speaker 1: what happened, Michaela said that she was lining up to
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  Speaker 1: order her food with her fiancé Max when she was
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  Speaker 1: approached by Emily Hembrough and her husband. Michaela alleges that
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  Speaker 1: Emily accused her of spreading lies about her family and
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  Speaker 1: labelled Honre's victim Charlotte Chant a liar. Michaela also claimed
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  Speaker 1: Emily threatened to serve her with legal papers for defamation,
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  Speaker 1: but when she called her bluff, Emily apparently backtracked and
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  Speaker 1: said that she didn't have them with her. To be fair,
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  Speaker 1: it's not like you're carrying legal documents around with you.
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  Speaker 1: In terms of the defamation claims, this is what Michaela
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  Speaker 1: said in her video.
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  Speaker 7: Of course, I only speak truth and only speak things
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  Speaker 7: that are truly coming from my heart. I have not
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  Speaker 7: been sued for defamation by Emily Hanbrough as Her husband
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  Speaker 7: even admitted to me that night that they cannot sue
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  Speaker 7: me for defamation as I have not lied about them.
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  Speaker 7: Everything that I've posted about Henri Thine or Henri Hembrough,
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  Speaker 7: Emily Hembrough's brother, is completely factual. Things that you can
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  Speaker 7: find on the internet, legal documents and court dates.
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  Speaker 1: Now, Michaela described the incident as a short screaming match
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  Speaker 1: and teased that Emily may release footage from the incident
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  Speaker 1: as she filmed the encounter. When I heard this part
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  Speaker 1: of the story, I was like, okay, So Michaela wants
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  Speaker 1: to get on the front foot. This footage must not
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  Speaker 1: be very flattering of her.
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  Speaker 2: Release the vision. Release the vision.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, Michaela did admit that she got quite agitated
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  Speaker 1: and was yelling back at Emily.
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  Speaker 2: Well, it's unfair sometimes.
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  Speaker 1: Like if you're the person that's filming, of course, you're
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  Speaker 1: going to be a bit more subdued because you know
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  Speaker 1: that this is.
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  Speaker 2: Going to be recorded.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And also Emily was the one that approached Michaela and
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  Speaker 1: kind of startled her. Michaela mentioned that she really wasn't
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  Speaker 1: in a good headspace at the time because one she
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  Speaker 1: said she found out some really horrible news and two
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  Speaker 1: she said she had just got her face lasered I've
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  Speaker 1: had my face lasered before and there is no way
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  Speaker 1: I would want to be filmed or and also yelled
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  Speaker 1: at this is giving me awful flashbacks to when we
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  Speaker 1: saw Sarah's Day's husband Kurt Tills at a restaurant this
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  Speaker 1: is of course after we've spoken about them on the
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  Speaker 1: podcast for years and also reading between the lines he
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  Speaker 1: threatened to sue us for yeah the deep dive that
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  Speaker 1: we put out what about that bit To be fair though,
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  Speaker 1: this is how I thought it would play out but
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  Speaker 1: it didn't. No one actually said anything and everyone just– Well,
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  Speaker 1: that's the funny thing about social media. Like Michaela Tester
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  Speaker 1: and Emily, they're both very confident online. Like Michaela's put
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  Speaker 1: all of these videos out having a go at the Hembros.
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  Speaker 1: But then when you actually see the person in real life–
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  Speaker 1: It's very different. It's very awkward seeing someone and actually
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  Speaker 1: confronting them in person. Well, following the encounter, Michaela labelled
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  Speaker 1: Emily as rude, mean and horrible. And she went on
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  Speaker 1: to accuse Emily of enabling her younger brother and suggested
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  Speaker 1: Emily was trying to believe in her brother's innocence as
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  Speaker 1: a way to cope with the fact that he was, quote,
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  Speaker 1: a horrible person. Now, after this outburst, Michaela said Emily
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  Speaker 1: returned to the table with her family, but her husband
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  Speaker 1: stayed and spoke to her and Mac. I was pretty
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  Speaker 1: surprised because it was at this point that Michaela did
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  Speaker 1: a complete backflip about Emily's husband and she admitted that
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  Speaker 1: he was really kind and Emily's husband explained to Michaela
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  Speaker 1: that Emily was just trying to protect her family and
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  Speaker 1: he revealed that she would do anything for them. Michaela
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  Speaker 1: also claimed Emily's husband confirmed that there were no legal
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  Speaker 1: papers waiting for her and she said she ended up
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  Speaker 1: apologizing to him about what she originally said online about
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  Speaker 1: him and shook his hand. and she confirmed that he
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  Speaker 1: was the only one to condemn Honre's actions. It was
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  Speaker 1: pretty apparent that she wanted to put it on the
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  Speaker 1: record to the public that there was no beef between
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  Speaker 1: them anymore.
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  Speaker 2: I found that really interesting.
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  Speaker 1: And I wondered if that was an agreement that they
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  Speaker 1: came to, that she had to publicly apologize to him
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  Speaker 1: in order to not get served by the legal document.
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  Speaker 1: Because while Michaela is adamant that she hasn't said anything
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  Speaker 1: defamatory around Honre's case, and she has got the truth
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  Speaker 1: defense with the sentencing documents and all of the receipts
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  Speaker 1: that Charlotte Chant has provided online in terms of what
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  Speaker 1: she alleged about Emily Hembrough's husband I do think the
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  Speaker 1: Hembrough's had a leg to stand on that it was
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  Speaker 1: defamatory my other thought perhaps is Emily said look we'll
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  Speaker 1: release this vision that doesn't make you look too good
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  Speaker 1: unless you actually go on the record and and take
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  Speaker 1: away those comments that you said Well, off the back
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  Speaker 1: of Michaela's TikTok, Charlotte Chant shared her own video hitting
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  Speaker 1: back at the alleged claims that she was a liar.
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  Speaker 1: So she explained she received a FaceTime call from Michaela
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  Speaker 1: about the incident, which left her shaking and angry. She
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  Speaker 1: went on to show further receipts, which included the sentencing
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  Speaker 1: papers and disturbing text messages that she alleged were sent
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  Speaker 1: to her from Honrej. Charlotte made a point not to
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  Speaker 1: name Emily because she said she didn't want to be sued. Now,
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  Speaker 1: at the time of recording, Emily Hembrough is yet to
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  Speaker 1: release an official statement or share the footage from the incident,
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  Speaker 1: but she has been defending herself in the comments section
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  Speaker 1: of random TikTok accounts. So a TikToker called Kayla Bruno's
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  Speaker 1: comment section blew up after she released a video mocking
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  Speaker 1: the location of the fight.
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  Speaker 8: Just woken up from a what year is it nap
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  Speaker 8: and I've just seen that Michaela Tester is punching on
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  Speaker 8: with the Hembrough sisters yet again. That's not the part
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  Speaker 8: I'm concerned about. I quite like the drama. What I
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  Speaker 8: need to know is what the fuck is Outback Steakhouse?
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  Speaker 8: Are we talking like a Bloomin' Onion American chain Outback Steakhouse?
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  Speaker 8: What the fuck is Emily Hembrough doing there to begin with?
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  Speaker 8: I'm telling you, the more I hear about the Gold Coast,
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  Speaker 8: the more I fucking don't understand it.
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  Speaker 1: Now someone commented under the video, send the papers, to
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  Speaker 1: which Emily responded, She left the country when I had
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  Speaker 1: them ready and now she has apologized about my husband
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  Speaker 1: to myself and him and online publicly. So there is
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  Speaker 1: no need.
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  Speaker 2: That's what I was mad about. Nothing else.
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  Speaker 1: Michaela then joined the comment section and claimed that Emily
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  Speaker 1: had blocked her so she can't see her comments.
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  Speaker 2: She went on to.
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  Speaker 1: Say that she never apologized about making up lies about
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  Speaker 1: Emily's husband. She said she apologized to Emily's husband for
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  Speaker 1: saying that she was scared of him online and that
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  Speaker 1: he seemed like a pretty reasonable guy in person. She
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  Speaker 1: went on to say, I even clarified that I thought
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  Speaker 1: her brother was XYZ and that I'm not apologising for
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  Speaker 1: anything else. She said she then walked out of the
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  Speaker 1: restaurant and told her to serve her the papers. She
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  Speaker 1: went on to write, let's hope she posts the video
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  Speaker 1: in full and I'll go and get CCTV footage as well.
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  Speaker 2: Is it terrible that I really hope that happens?
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  Speaker 1: Like, I would love... to see this vision? I think
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  Speaker 1: the Outback Steakhouse needs to jump on this publicity and
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  Speaker 1: release the CCTV vision.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, they're already getting a lot of free publicity.
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  Speaker 2: Why not milk it.
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  Speaker 1: For what it's worth? Kate, you haven't had a steak
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  Speaker 1: for what? Like what, 30 years? I can't remember ever
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  Speaker 1: eating a steak. Would you have a steak in order
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  Speaker 1: to get this vision?
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  Speaker 2: Yes, I would. And do you know what?
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  Speaker 1: I say that and I've actually lost this bet before
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  Speaker 1: because I've been vegetarian since I was 14 and And
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  Speaker 1: back when I was working with another job, I ended
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  Speaker 1: up having.
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  Speaker 2: To eat a Big Mac after losing a bet. And
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  Speaker 2: I did it.
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  Speaker 1: So I will do it.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So if you've got that vision, Outback Steakhouse, and you
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  Speaker 1: want Kate to eat a steak in order to get it,
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  Speaker 1: contact us. Hit us up at Outspoken underscore the underscore podcast.
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  Speaker 1: You can find me at the Gold Coast too to
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  Speaker 1: eat it.
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  Speaker 2: That'd be nice. Because we don't have one here in Adelaide.
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  Speaker 1: Now, in a subsequent video Kayla Bruno posted about the incident,
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  Speaker 1: Emily replied to another comment that accused her of calling
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  Speaker 1: Charlotte a liar. She wrote, she also said in person
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  Speaker 1: with many witnesses that Charlotte said she had met my husband,
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  Speaker 1: which is false and a lie. That's what I was
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  Speaker 1: referring to. Obviously not my brother. We all know he
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  Speaker 1: was guilty and went to jail. That's common sense. And
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  Speaker 1: like I've said numerous times, I don't condone or support violence.
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  Speaker 1: I also don't condone or support liars and online bullies.
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  Speaker 1: There's a pattern with her content. It's pretty clear. It's
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  Speaker 1: going to be interesting to see how this plays out
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  Speaker 1: online because we all know Michaela Testa is definitely not
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  Speaker 1: one to back down. Yeah, I am very interested to
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  Speaker 1: see if Emily Hembrough puts out anything officially. I think
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  Speaker 1: she won't. I think she'll be hoping that this blows over.
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  Speaker 3: I have been experiencing the worst vlogging fear. I am
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  Speaker 3: terrified to pick up my camera most days. Terrified sounds
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  Speaker 3: dramatic and honestly it is.
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  Speaker 9: But.
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  Speaker 3: It's how I feel.
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  Speaker 1: Gold Coast YouTuber Georgia Richards has revealed she contemplated deleting
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  Speaker 1: her social media accounts and never going on the internet
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  Speaker 1: again after struggling to cope with judgment online. Amy, before
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  Speaker 1: we get into it, can you give us some background
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  Speaker 1: on who.
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  Speaker 2: Georgia Richards is?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I mentioned last week that Georgia was one
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  Speaker 1: of my favorite comfort YouTubers. So she's been sharing content
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  Speaker 1: on YouTube for the last seven years.
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  Speaker 2: She's 27 years old.
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  Speaker 1: She's got around 100,000 followers on YouTube and 71,000 on Instagram.
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  Speaker 1: When I first came across Georgia's channel, I was hooked
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  Speaker 1: because she was just a regular girl sharing her life.
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  Speaker 1: She worked at a coffee shop. She shared about the
• 15:00
  Speaker 1: catching up with friends. There was also the interesting element
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: of her being involved in the church. So she used
• 15:04
  Speaker 1: to start her days doing Bible verses. And now I
• 15:07
  Speaker 1: feel like I've been along the whole journey with her
• 15:09
  Speaker 1: because I Over the last couple of years, she opened
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: up about the fact that she is gay and she
• 15:14
  Speaker 1: actually left the church, which was such a big step
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: for her. Yeah, and she's been really open sharing her
• 15:19
  Speaker 1: sexuality online. She's spoken about going on many dates and
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: also about her first girlfriend, which she got around the
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: end of last year. It was really brave of her
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: considering what a taboo topic it would have been for her. Yeah,
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: and at the start of this year, she got really
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: candid about her breakup. So this was with her first
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: ever girlfriend. And I really love the honesty from Georgia.
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: I was glued and I really enjoyed vicariously living through, well,
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: not just the breakup, but her whole dating experiences. Well,
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: I think there's something about a first breakup that majority
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: of people can relate to. And you just, I just
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: felt so sorry for her watching it because you know
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: that the only thing that's going to heal that type
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: of pain is time.
• 15:57
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: And the thing with Georgia is she never actually shared
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: the full identity of her girlfriend. It was always like
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: the back of her head in vlogs or her arm,
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: like them hand in hand walking.
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: Well, she never even said her name.
• 16:06
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 16:06
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: And so this week, Georgia revealed in a YouTube video
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: that she was really struggling with the judgment of others.
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: And she said that at the start of this year,
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: she shared so much about her life. And now she
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: was having a lot of intrusive thoughts about shit. I
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: actually need to take my life offline because I can't
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: deal with people's judgment. Let's have a listen to what
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: she said.
• 16:28
  Speaker 3: My favorite part of being on the internet is just
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: feeling connected to people. However, in order to feel connected
• 16:33
  Speaker 3: to people, you have to be vulnerable and that just
• 16:36
  Speaker 3: opens you up to so much hate and the wrong
• 16:38
  Speaker 3: kind of people seeing your stuff and people not understanding
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: you and people perceiving you in a way that is
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: either not accurate or just like, people perceiving me in
• 16:46
  Speaker 3: general just makes me extremely uncomfortable. I've talked about it
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: in therapy so much, like in relationships, in deep friendships,
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: but I've just felt so like almost frozen in fear.
• 16:54
  Speaker 3: I just am so scared to do, say, post- literally anything,
• 16:59
  Speaker 3: which I know, I know, I know, I know, I know,
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: I know it's so silly. I've been trying so hard
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: to shake it because like I work one of the
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: coolest jobs ever. Like I am so lucky and I
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: count my blessings every single day because of all of
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: the incredible opportunities and freedom that this platform has given me.
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: But oh my God, the internet has been so scary
• 17:16
  Speaker 3: to me.
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: God, I felt so sorry for Georgia when I watched
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: this because I think when you do put yourself out
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: there online, whether it's as an influencer or a podcaster,
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: you do get a little bit of a oversharing hangover.
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: You're like, oh my God, I've put that out on
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: the internet forever. Especially when people are being assholes and
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: going and writing on Reddit or.
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: Tattelife and judging them about it.
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: And that's the shame with the rise in popularity of
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: sites like this. We've spoken about it before on the podcast,
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: but there are a number of threads which exist about
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: Georgia on Reddit. And I had a look at them
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: and they were just mean. And I think what you
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: realize as you grow up a bit is that these
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: haters who are in the threads, there's only a handful
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: of them. Like Georgia would look at those and go,
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: oh my God, there's hundreds and hundreds of people who
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: hate me. Actually, it's probably just three very sad people
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: who have the time to comment on the Reddit thread.
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: Like there'd be so many people who love watching her life,
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: including me. And it's sad that that's spoiling it for
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: so many people because she's not sharing as much as
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: she would. Unfortunately, it really is part and parcel of
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: the influencer space. And I think Most content creators go
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: through it where they discover these threads about themselves. And unfortunately,
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: the only way you can really push forward is just
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: to not look at the stuff as hard as that is.
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: And I think for a number of creators, this kind
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: of hate, it often kicks off once you reach around
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: 100,000 subscribers. And that's what's happened to Georgia. She's got
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: 100,000 subscribers now on YouTube. Her following is just increasing.
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: And sadly, it is just part and parcel. But let's
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: have a listen to what Georgia said because she spoke
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: very honestly about how she feels about these haters.
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: It honestly annoys me because the mean, scary people of
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: the internet who are actually just like really sad, lonely
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: people behind a screen, they're the ones that are ruining
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: it for the good people and like for me. And
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: I'm like, you shouldn't hold that power. You shouldn't like
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: get to have that in you because like, A, I
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: literally don't know you and B, you're just awful people.
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: I just really hope Georgia continues to share her life
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: online because while there may be a small corner of
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: the internet that are being judgmental, I think that she
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: would have helped so many other people that have been
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: going through similar things in their life. Yeah, and she
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: noted in this YouTube video that that was one of
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: the main reasons why she started to share her life
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: on YouTube was because she didn't see people like herself
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: being represented. And it's a real shame that this is
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: potentially stopping other people from being able to watch someone
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: like Georgia, like someone at home who might not feel
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: represented can actually align themselves with her. But hopefully she
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: will continue her content because I'm living for it at
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: the moment.
• 19:43
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: You always complain to me like, can you believe she
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: hasn't released a vlog for two weeks now? I'm like,
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: I didn't actually know.
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: Well, now I see why.
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: Because of the fucking nasty people.
• 19:52
  Speaker 9: I just tore the ligaments in my thumb and I'm
• 19:54
  Speaker 9: meant to be launching my biggest 60-day workout challenge in
• 19:57
  Speaker 9: 10 days.
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: Sarah's day has been thrown an obstacle just 10 days
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: out from the launch of her fitness challenge. On Monday,
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: the fitness influencer announced she's torn the ligaments in her
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: thumb and will have to wear a splint for six
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: to nine weeks.
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: Now, Sarah shared the.
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: Story in a pretty dramatic fashion on her Instagram. So
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: on Monday morning, she revealed to her one million followers
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: that she was waiting to get an x-ray on her thumb.
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: So at seven that morning, she hyperextended her thumb all
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: the way back, causing suspected ligament damage. She said as
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: soon as she heard the sickening crunch and felt the pain,
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: she knew there was something wrong. She was really coy, though,
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: about how she actually hyper-extended her thumb. She said it
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: was really embarrassing and teased that she would tell the
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: story later.
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: As soon as I heard that, I was like, I
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: must know. Like, what were you doing?
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: I mean, she's got a baby, so I was like,
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: did it have something to do with him?
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: I don't know. How could you possibly do it?
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: Well, thinking back to when you dislocated your knee, that
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: was kind of an embarrassing injury because you were leaning
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: to get wrapping paper from behind a TV. It wasn't
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: some kind of dramatic injury. So maybe it's something like that.
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: Could it be a sex injury?
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: Oh, God. I hope not. Doing this with her thumb. Well,
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: she's been talking.
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: About how she's had these pregnancy scares.
• 21:10
  Speaker 7: Oh, gosh.
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: I feel like she probably wouldn't tell that story if
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: that was the case.
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: That's what I mean.
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: Like imagine doing it in some really embarrassing way and
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: you're like, how do you hyperextend your thumb?
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: Why are we kept to cancel the challenge?
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: Anyway, moving on, in a true.
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: Feat for our public health system, Sarah said that she
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: managed to see the GP get an X-ray and meet
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: with a hand specialist.
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: All within an hour and a half. What the hell?
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: How's that even possible?
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: What's a hand specialist?
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: Well, the hand specialist is the one that said, look,
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: I have to wait for the swelling to go down
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: to tell the severity of the damage. But according to Sarah,
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: the doctor was positive that she has done ligament damage.
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: They're not sure.
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: See, I had an incident with a tennis ball machine.
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: So I was doing– Was it embarrassing? Well, it was
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: kind of embarrassing because I was having a hit with
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: my tennis ball machine named Maurice and I was volleying
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: at the net and I saw this tennis ball flying
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: towards my head and I stupidly put my hand out
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: to catch it but it was on like the hardest level. Anyway,
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: I was convinced I'd broken my finger and done ligament
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: damage so was the doctor. Turns out, no. Well, I
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: broke my finger. This was back in 2000. It was
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: the night of the Olympic Games in Sydney. I have
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: no recollection of this.
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: We were playing netball.
• 22:28
  Speaker 7: Oh, okay, yeah.
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: A ball bounced into my finger. I broke it. Still
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: carried on.
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: We went to McDonald's and I got a cup of
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: ice and put it in there. Did you go to
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: a hand specialist the next day?
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: No, mum and dad did not pay for me to
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: go to a hand specialist.
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: Anyway, jokes aside, I'm pretty shocked considering the strain that
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: is on our healthcare system in Australia that she managed
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: to get all those appointments done between 8.30 and 11 a.m.
• 22:47
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: That's incredible. That's incredible.
• 22:50
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: I mean, most specialists would have a massive waiting list,
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: but I do feel really sorry for her because apparently
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: she hasn't even been able to change her son's nappies. Well,
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: I mean, I feel sorry for her, but it's a
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: good way to get out of it as well. I mean,
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: it does sound very painful, but I couldn't help but
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: laugh at how much she was actually using her injured
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: hand in the video.
• 23:07
  Speaker 6: Yes.
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: So for those who haven't seen it, it's literally like
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: when someone gets engaged and suddenly they want to do
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: everything with their left hand to show off the ring.
• 23:14
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: Cause she's got this hot pink splint on her hand
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: and she's known already for being really emotive with her
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: hands so when she was speaking on camera like she
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: was literally over exaggerating everything with the bandage hand it
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: was so distracting i did like the color pink though
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: of the bandage i thought Has she got shares in
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: this plaster company or something? Like, is this the new Hyro? Actually,
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: someone did ask her where she got the bandage from.
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: She's like, from the hand specialist.
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: Oh, okay. Now, off the back of Sarah's update, a
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: lot of her followers questioned why she got an x-ray
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: rather than an MRI. And she explained on her Instagram
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: story that she couldn't get an appointment for an MRI
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: for another two weeks.
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: So the x-ray was to rule out a break.
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: So Sarah conceded, though, that the hand specialist wasn't too
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: concerned about the MRI as she will be able to
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: tell what's going on with it once the swelling subsides. Now,
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: as for Sarah's mindset, she said she's just focusing on
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: keeping her mindset positive and getting creative with this injury
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: and juggling three kids, including a baby who wants mommy
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: to hold him 24 seven. That would be so difficult.
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: And Kurt's had to take time off to stay home
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: with the kids.
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: Well, fair enough.
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I mean, yeah, but I was only
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: able to use one hand and look after my son. God,
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: All I could think about, though, when I saw Sarah's
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: update is what's going to happen to the 560 challenge?
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: Because on Monday, Soph and I were speaking about how
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: we think Sarah is already cutting it fine by announcing
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: a launch date when she hasn't actually completed.
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: All of the work for the project.
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: So it turns out she's yet to film the workout
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: videos that go.
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: With the challenge.
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: And Sarah was quick to confirm on Monday that the
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: challenge would still be launching on the 9th of October,
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: but she would just have to moderate her workouts. Here's
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: some of what she said.
• 24:53
  Speaker 9: Hand specialist has told me I can get back into
• 24:56
  Speaker 9: training in five days. She wants me to take five
• 24:58
  Speaker 9: days off to like not swell it up. But I'm
• 25:00
  Speaker 9: definitely going to have to get creative. But like this,
• 25:02
  Speaker 9: I'm not going to let this derail me. I'm going
• 25:04
  Speaker 9: to show you guys that even if you have a
• 25:07
  Speaker 9: torn ligament, you can still commit to the 60 days.
• 25:09
  Speaker 9: I guess I just won't be doing any dumbbell work
• 25:11
  Speaker 9: on my left hand or like planks on my hands.
• 25:14
  Speaker 9: I just need to get a little bit creative.
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: Not to laugh because it's horrible that she has hurt
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: her thumb, but It cracked me up because a lot
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: of people have been saying that every time Sarah tells
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: her community that they're going to do one of the
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: workout guides together or do a fitness challenge together, that
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: she always comes up with an excuse not to do it.
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: So I remember before she announced her pregnancy with Malachi,
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: she was like, oh yeah, we're all going to do
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: the fitness challenge together.
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: And then she's like, oh, I can't because I'm pregnant.
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: Well, it'd be interesting to see if she does the
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: full 60 days.
• 25:43
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: Well, she ended up sharing another vlog talking about her
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: thumb and she started the video by saying, hi, it's
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: your favorite.
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: Damaged ligament girl.
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: And it took me back to I think it was
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: like 2017 when she had a staph infection and she
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: kept calling herself staph girl. Like she really manages to
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: milk the content out of these types of injuries.
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: Well, I'm living for the content.
• 26:04
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: It's actually hilarious.
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: Well, in the vlog, she said that she was choosing
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: to adapt and not quit. So she said the 560
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: program is going ahead in nine days and nothing will
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: stop me, not even torn ligaments. And it turns out
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: that the day after she hurt her thumb, she had
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: a filming day locked in for the fitness challenge. So
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: she went and got her hair washed and blow dried because.
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: She couldn't actually do it herself.
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: It's unclear if the videos are just going to be
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: pieces to cameras or she's going to do the workout
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: and that would be against her doctor's advice because they said, well,
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: don't work out for five days. It always sounds like
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: someone's got this voodoo doll of her just putting the
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: pins in her thumb or something.
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you will not get your challenge done.
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: It was interesting because someone in the comments of this
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: blog wrote, girl, you think a hand injury is tough?
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: Try having a whole body that refuses to cooperate. Ha ha.
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: And then Sarah responded, I didn't realize it was a competition.
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: And then the person replied, it's so awkward. They're like,
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: not a competition at all. I was just joking about
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: my own struggles. I have LGMD, a muscle wasting disease,
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: and can relate to the nothing will stop me. Now
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: Sarah didn't reply further.
• 27:07
  Speaker 5: I was like, oh.
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: Oh, that poor person.
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: I was like, God, you can't go at people in
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: your comments without knowing the full story. To be fair,
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: there is that whole, what is it? Is it called
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: like the blueberry bagel theory or whatever it is where
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: it's like you could say I love blueberry bagels and
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: everyone's like, what about the plain ones?
• 27:23
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean, that's clearly not what this person was doing,
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: but I suppose you don't know tone on social media.
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: She was triggered. Now, I've got a prediction for you.
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: I think Sarah is going to go to an acupuncturist
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: and naturally cure her ligament injury herself.
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: No way.
• 27:36
  Speaker 6: It sort of made me feel not uncomfortable. I wasn't
• 27:39
  Speaker 6: feeling sorry for myself, but I was like, why?
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: Matt Sikowski has revealed he felt emotional after attending his
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: friend's wedding over the weekend. Now, this was the first
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: wedding he attended since the breakdown of his marriage to
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: Tammy Hembrough. Let's have a listen to what Matt said.
• 27:56
  Speaker 6: It was a bit strange to watch. Like when they
• 27:59
  Speaker 6: were doing their vows, it was so cute and so heartfelt.
• 28:03
  Speaker 6: It sort of made me feel not uncomfortable. I wasn't
• 28:06
  Speaker 6: feeling sorry for myself, but I was like, why? Like,
• 28:09
  Speaker 6: why was mine? You know what I'm trying to say?
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: Like not forever.
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 28:12
  Speaker 6: Why was mine not forever? Because in that moment, I
• 28:14
  Speaker 6: remember when I was saying them, I was like, this
• 28:16
  Speaker 6: is forever. And I was like, why did it, why
• 28:18
  Speaker 6: was it not real? Why was it, you know what
• 28:20
  Speaker 6: I'm trying to say? Yeah.
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: Matt went on to say he couldn't quite articulate how
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: he felt and needed time to talk to his therapist
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: to help identify the exact emotion. It's crazy to think
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: it's nearly coming up to their first wedding anniversary.
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: That's in November.
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  Speaker 7: Are you serious?
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  Speaker 2: So only like four or five weeks away.
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  Speaker 1: That is actually crazy because it feels like just yesterday
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  Speaker 1: that the Daily Mail's drone was flying overhead, Tammy was
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  Speaker 1: in a pink dress.
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  Speaker 2: Like, that's crazy.
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  Speaker 1: What do you do on your first wedding anniversary when
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: you're divorced?
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  Speaker 2: Go out and have a drink at the end.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it would be really triggering for Matt to
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  Speaker 1: attend a wedding. And also- I mean, not to make
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: himself the main character, but you'd almost feel like people
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: would be looking like side-eyeing you to be like, how's
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: he reacting? Yeah, and he said the most emotional part
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  Speaker 1: for him was seeing them walk down the aisle because
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: they did a dip like he did with Tammy. And
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  Speaker 1: he also said it was hard to watch, but it
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: didn't make him feel upset or angry.
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  Speaker 2: He said it just felt weird. It's interesting because his
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: co-host Anna.
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  Speaker 1: McAvoy asked him if he thinks he'll ever get married
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  Speaker 1: again and he said he was hopeful he would, but
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  Speaker 1: he'd have to be really certain about the person.
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  Speaker 6: Mm-hmm.
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: Well, that's where we're going to leave things today.
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• 29:30
  Speaker 1: was recorded on the traditional land of the Kaurna people
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: of the Adelaide Plains.
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  Speaker 2: We pay respect to elders past and present.