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Episode 10: Why Dave Filoni is a Goddamn Genius · Most Things Kenobi - A Star Wars Podcast

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Hello there. It's most things Kenobi.
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Hey everyone, welcome to another episode of most things Kenobi.
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A podcast about Obi-Wan Kenobi and all things Star Wars.
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I am your host Leanne and I'm your host Lauren and as we
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always do. Thank you.
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James Arnold Taylor for the wonderful intro.
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We will never get sick of thanking you and we will never
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get sick of your voice. Thank you very much for doing
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our intros, as always. So this week, we have a very fun
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topic. I'm totally excited.
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Oh my God, the the title of the episode basically says it all.
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Dave filoni is a goddamn genius and of episode.
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Thanks for being here. Ladies and gentlemen, have a
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great week. Thanks.
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See you next week. No.
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But for real though, what is the meme and filoni we trust in
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filoni? We Trust.
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Well, the t-shirt that started it all my t-shirt.
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It is. Hashtag filoni gets it.
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And by filoni gets it. We mean Star Wars.
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We seriously should All a t-shirt that says that on it, I
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mean, it's nothing but praise and he deserves it, he totally
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deserves it. Absolutely, I don't know,
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someone like who deserves their own t-shirt more than day phony,
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right? He's a basically our hero.
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We love him. We appreciate his artistic
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genius, his knowledge of Star Wars his bond with George Lucas
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himself. He just he's a, he's a master at
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his his craft and it shows. Yes.
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In fact, we're not the only ones who think, so the Emmy
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nominations were actually just announced.
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And to, of Dave filoni these projects, one, the Mandalorian
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notched 24 nominations and the Clone Wars themselves season
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seven, right? Three Emmy nods, which deserves
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to win everything season. Seven wins all categories.
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I don't care what it is. I just think the things that we
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As fans have seen is he's finally getting the wreck the
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kind of recognition that he deserves.
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Yeah, I mean, if you think he deserves to have some trophies
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in my mind he's perfect without any, you know, it's great to be
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honored, you know, on paper, in this way.
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But he was a goddamn genius before the Emmys came around.
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So yes, he's pretty much been a genius since he was young, I
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would say. Yeah, he worked us Last
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Airbender before he works clone wars and that is one of my
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favorite animated. It shows ever, I just finished
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re-watching, the whole thing recently and my God, it's so
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good and it's good. I mean, I'm sure it would have
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been good anyway, but having his touch on the show and like his
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interpretations of Mythology and Anime and all of that stuff.
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It's just like, it's particularly special been
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filling. He gets his hands on a project.
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Yes, I completely agree. And so I mean for those who, if
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you don't know who he is by now, I can't help you but Dave filoni
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is basically The Mastermind behind the Clone Wars and a part
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of the team that put together the, the Mandalorian, of course,
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now the bad batch and many other side projects that are soon to
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come. Yeah, of course you and I love
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the Clone Wars and then Clone Wars was saved which you and I
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were at the panel that Dave filoni was at when he announced
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season 7 was a thing. Yes, we were very emotional.
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There's so many Means to love the man, but I have a personal
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connection to him. He doesn't know this.
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He doesn't know. I have a personal connection but
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I wish she did. Maybe someday, he'll know, maybe
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someday, he'll know, but Dave were Hometown buddies.
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We're Penguins fans because we're both from the Pittsburgh
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area. Now he's from Mount Lebanon,
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which is south of Pittsburgh and I'm from undisclosed location,
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north of Pittsburgh. But, I mean, as you know,
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Lauren, the penguins are my hometown.
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Hockey team. Oh yeah, I'm currently wearing.
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Let's see. It says, Steel City, May the
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force be with you ins and it's from a company called shop.
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Steel City, go check them out, not affiliated, not sponsored,
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but we love them me and Dave, Dave and I was like, I don't
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know, I don't know what that is, but it sucks not.
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But the the craziest thing was like, the craziest thing that
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and this is what I wish I could talk to Dave.
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First of all, I want to talk to him about some of the crazy
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trades that have happened in the past 23 years, with our team, I
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could get Dave, hit me up. I need to know your opinion on
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the horn Quest trade. I think he'd probably be very
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happy to have someone to finally talk hockey where instead of
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Star Wars with yes, but the thing that killed me was you've
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seen me wear this shirt. It says, just play and it's four
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lines and has check marks. And what it is is our Penguins
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coach doing the just play the four games and then the next
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four games. Next the the 16 games you need,
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Need to win to win a Stanley Cup.
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Okay, and I found this shirt so hard when I saw a
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behind-the-scenes photo of Dave filoni wearing that same shirt.
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I said, shut up. He got the same shirt, I know
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the trouble, he went through to get that shirt because I went
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through the trouble to get that shirt but it warmed my heart.
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But yeah, he's where it's just nice and like Pittsburgh shirts
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all the time, you see any always has a pens hat on, you know,
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it's like it makes me happy to see if it's not a place.
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Khun or a wolf pack shirt or hat.
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It's a, it's a Pittsburgh at or at one time when it was all,
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like a Soca lives. Right.
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Like, the Ahsoka lives shirt that you like he like flipped?
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Yeah, Dave's a character. He's got the Hat.
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He's got that smile. Yeah.
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When I always joke that the Emoji, the like cowboy Emoji is
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actually a day filoni Emoji. Yes.
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And you. And I have used that when we
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were talking and praising, Dave, filoni about stuff.
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We use the cowboy Emoji. Yes.
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I love when people cosplay Dave filoni.
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I like that. That is amazing.
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So smart, it's like so clever and witty and it's delightful.
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I mean, you can pick them literally out of a crowd.
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Yeah. By the hat and that smile, you
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know what I mean? He's so great too.
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And he's so like humble and mild-mannered and just truly
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delightful to listen to. I've heard him say in a bunch of
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interviews that he doesn't think he's interesting.
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He thinks his wife is way more fascinating.
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She's a writer. Actually, she wrote one of the
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stories in the Clone Wars collection of It's stories.
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They released sort of recently. But anytime I hear him talk,
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even if it's about nothing Star Wars related.
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I think he's really fascinating and he's really funny.
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He is just a delightful person. You can tell he knows what he's
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talking about, you know, you can tell the difference between
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someone who kind of fumbles their way through something, but
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Davis thoughtful. He's thought about these things,
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he understands if you ever taught hear him talk about like
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even the prequels, some of the things he said to discuss, like
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how This makes sense and how the vision, you know, things that
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tie together and he gets it, he dies, he just hasn't
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understanding. I think an understanding maybe
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that's tied into some of us like original trilogy people.
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Hmm. You know, where there's that.
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Respect for the original trilogy, but then, you can
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Branch out and make the story richer, and, and even grander
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than it already is without losing the things.
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We love about Star Wars, which is the story, the heart, the
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heart and soul, You know, the difficult choices and of course
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the sadness and pain. I just heard I was rude watching
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some interviews with him that are some of my particular
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favorites and he was talking about how they went really dark
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on some of the episodes in Clone Wars and people liked that.
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But he said, like, if you get too dark, can you really call it
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Star Wars anymore? Because it's supposed to be an
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adventurer and hope. Yes, it should always be hopeful
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and that comes from the original trilogy.
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He even said it, Does because he was like if we go really dark on
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our platter lines, are you still coming away with that feeling
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you had after watching a new hope?
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You know, that's what he is always striving for and trying
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to help people relive that excitement that they felt when
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they first saw the original trilogy back in the 70s and 80s.
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And I think that's why he's really successful with Star Wars
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is because he's a fan, and even said it wasn't, he wasn't even a
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fan, he was just a kid and all kids back in the 70s.
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Star Wars fans. It was just like a way of life.
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So yes, it really shows in his work.
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I think he's just another fan like us.
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He just happens to have that artistic side and made it work
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and produced some really amazing content, seriously.
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And when you look back at his path of how he ended up, you
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know, as an executive producer, lucasfilm, considering he grew
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up as a huge Star Wars fan, I don't know if you believe in
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manifesting, anybody out there listening.
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But talk about a crazy pathway. I mean, Everything lined up
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perfectly and even has the story right where he's working on Last
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Airbender. He loves the show.
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He's really passionate about it and is sitting in the office one
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day and a friend says, what is it that would pull you away from
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this show? Like what could entice you away
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and he said well if George Lucas called maybe I'd go work for
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him. Literally one week later got a
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phone call from lucasfilm. That's amazing.
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I mean it's meant to be and he thought it was somebody pranking
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him playing a joke on him because it was Lucasfilm
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animation and he's like, there is no such thing.
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Who is this, you know, who you calling me?
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Is there a chance that I could manifest talking to Dave?
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Because, oh my God. Please.
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I would love to maybe have questions we you and I we put
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our Collective space to an energy together.
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I think might make it happen. We can do this, I can do this.
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Hey fans listeners. Yeah help us everybody
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Collective energy. Get Dave filoni Collective
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energy? The thing and Dave also comes
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from a musical background. And his father was deep into
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musical production and his mom was a singer and his mom's a
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singer. So I mean, he get, he's
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obviously inherited some artistic side but he's also an
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incredible artist, his sketches that we saw it at the Clone Wars
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panel alone, which is what we thought we were going to get.
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That was all we were going to get, right?
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No. Some reminiscing over the past
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10 years which would have sufficed.
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I would have been totally happy with my gosh.
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Yes Dave showing some sketches private SketchBook.
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Yeah, the voice actors and actresses there.
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That was enough to fill my soul. And then and then this happened
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well on the way. He said it too.
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Is like, you've all been. So great over the years.
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We just want to, I know, give you a little something, here's
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a, little something for you, a little something.
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Yeah, I was like, JY re-watch that recently, full-body chills,
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like, yeah, till I feel that emotion, even though I've
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watched it, I lived through it first and then I requested it.
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Multiple times and I still get those full body chill.
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And like, I seriously like cried pretty hard.
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Yeah. No, I we well, we were, we were
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in good company. Yeah.
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I mean, everybody there lost their shit.
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Yeah, it was rightfully, so, and we had another friend who was in
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the back who actually he came in later, right?
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Because he his other panel finished.
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He came in and sat way, way way in the back, and he's like,
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well, I'll just chill here until you know, because the girls are
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here and then when we're all done.
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Well, then go get lunch or something.
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And he couldn't believe the reaction and he said, he didn't
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have any idea what was going on because he didn't, he's a Star
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Wars fan, but he hadn't seen Clone Wars, but he was
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interested. But he said he felt like an
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energy in that room that when it exploded, when they announce
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season 7. So I mean, I bet they could have
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filled Hall, h, didn't have to have one of those small rooms.
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They could have filled Hall age. They could have filled all age
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especially if they had said there was a trailer coming.
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Oh my God, I'm actually glad they kept it the way it was.
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Yeah, it was very intimate. We had no idea and then like
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Dave, with his tiny little subtle smirk and, you know, tip
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of the hat and they were gone and the rest of us, lost our
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mind, so it was great. It was, it was great.
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Yeah, I saw the follow-up to that later.
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Well, I guess it was the next spring I went to Star Wars
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celebration in Chicago. Yeah, that's where I live.
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It was easy. I don't have to travel so it
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was, it was awesome. And they did fill a huge
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Auditorium. It was so much fun.
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It was terrible. Whether it was April and there
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was like a blizzard it was nuts. It's not freezing cold freezing,
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I won't stop a Star Wars fan. I did not stop.
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I still don't know. Probe the hour into the City and
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like stood outside in the freezing winter weather just so
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I could get into that particular auditory.
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I was not going to miss it, no matter what and I remember you
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sending me texts and videos from that and it It looked, I mean it
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was that was a huge venue. It was huge that it's an
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auditorium. It's a giant convention center
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with the giant arena in it. Hmm.
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Yeah. It was great.
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It was fun. And I think that was a great
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panel to because that one had filoni and Ashley Eckstein.
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Sam Witwer. Matt Lanter James Arnold Taylor
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was there to Dee. Bradley Baker, was there.
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It was awesome. It was all the like major cast
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members, all the great. Yes.
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And of course, they embarrassed. Dave, everybody started
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complimenting him course if you like Hat over his face.
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It was right. I love him.
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Oh my God, I love it. So obviously we're Clone Wars
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lovers and when the Mandalorian came out, it was a little
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different. It was a little different you.
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And I we didn't immediately like fall for the Mandalorian.
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We, I thought it was a little bit clunky at first.
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I didn't lose hope but I didn't quite know where it was going.
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Yeah but by season two, I thought they took they really
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turned around it became more artistic, less clunky and of
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course the Luke that just And Luke moment at the end that just
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sealed the deal for, for just about every every true Star Wars
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fan, you know, who found themselves crying.
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But now, he's attracting a wider audience.
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My own mother who is gasp not a Star Wars fan but she loves the
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Mandalorian. Yeah, and I mean, she telephones
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me and called now who's this, and what's the importance and
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who are those guys in the white and why can't they hit anything?
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They shoot and said, yeah, yeah, typical typical Star Wars
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questions to a newbie, but she finds she fight.
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Well, I mean, we're all from the Pittsburgh area, so she has that
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angle to, but yeah, you know, she really digs it and she has
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respect for anyone who can pull in an audience member, who has
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no clue. What's going on and still enjoy
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the show. Yeah, so, you know, there's
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something to be said, and I know it's not just Dave filoni,
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there's a whole team of geniuses true.
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You know cinematic? Yeah.
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Science behind it. But yeah, but he's the executive
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producer on there, so he's, yeah, lot of.
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Say, in the book, The Story I was listening to an interviewer
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is talking about how they would prepare for clone wars.
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And I wonder how similar it is to what they do for Mandalorian,
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but he said before a season would start.
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He and all the writers and producers would go into a room
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with George, Lucas for like two weeks and they would literally
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have died. Oh my God.
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Jimmy so exhausted from a die. Statement, they would plan out
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an entire season each script for every episode, 24 episodes, or
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whatever it is in a two-week period.
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He said they had to do like three episodes a day, do you
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imagine that? I mean it must have been so
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exciting but totally draining at the same time but how gratifying
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at the end when you when you go through all that and then you
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put something together like that.
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I mean all of those voice actors and producers and animators
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should be hella proud of themselves.
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Yes, damn seriously. It's a Incredible body of work
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that they've produced, but he would say that while they were
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discussing plots and scripts he would be not doodling, but like
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drawing it and coming up with concept art in the room as
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they're talking about it and he has all these sketches that he
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would just look kind of some of them actually became concept art
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and some of it which is like going to a binder that he was
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going to throw away. Or I would love to see that
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binder. Yeah.
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Oh my God, I to own a piece. The Dave filoni art would be a
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life goal. I would hang it up next to my
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hockey stick and all my penguin hats that I put on it.
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We go somewhere between the hockey sticks and the
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lightsabers. It would go perfectly right
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between them a true fan room. Yeah.
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Right here. Worlds, Collide.
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Yes, I just really appreciate his vision and I know because
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I've seen some people aren't happy with some of his choices.
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Yeah. So, I know there aren't not
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everyone's a true DieHard like you and I are and I don't think
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you and I aren't really will call something out when we need
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to. Yeah, you know, hmm, But I
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really think in this case, Dave gets no call outs, but positive,
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once I mean, there have been a few choices that I'm not crazy
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about. But that's, I mean, considering
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the like I just said, the volume of work that comes out of there.
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Considering there's only like, a couple of things.
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I'm like, what? In fine, without that.
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I think that's pretty impressive.
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Most of it, I'm just like, oh my God.
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So good. Yeah, really as a person, who's
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like, spent my entire life writing and storytelling, I'm
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studying film in school and like critical analysis of film.
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On top of like production, I just really have a deep respect
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for the excellent storytelling and I'm sure like, we've
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discussed, I'm sure it comes from him having a similar
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background in the kind of things that interested in him as a kid
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is, so maybe that's why I Late to his work.
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But he told this great story about how he was like a junior
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in high school painting and had like a little paint Studio set
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up in his basement with like sheets up so that people
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couldn't see him while he was working on his painting.
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Oh that's cute. And he was painting a piece of
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art from The Lord of the Rings. He was doing a Owen and the is
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the pitcher about badass. Yeah.
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Is it white skin or Witcher King?
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It's which king she kills chic. And in the most fabulous fashion
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ever, right? So he said that, that part of
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that book was really formative to his early childhood and like
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taught him that women can do anything.
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They're just as strong as men and that's why he's been able to
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incorporate. So many strong, female
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characters into the Star Wars Universe because of Lord of the
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Rings and tolkien's vision of strong women, you know, being
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yes. The battle-hardened bad acid.
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Yes, Yes. Yes, I have chills.
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I have Goosebumps by the way, all the way up and down my legs
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because Dave we have another commonality and it was gonna say
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you're also super the rain expand.
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It was hugely formative. In my formative years, it was it
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was life-changing. When I first read those books I
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was in high school and the Aon in which king seen was to this
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day one of the greatest surprises, I guess in
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literature. But one of the most empowering
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as a female Male to read that. You essentially for those who
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don't know about it or haven't read it or haven't seen the
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movies, they did do it in the movies.
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They did it. Well in the movies Aon fights
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and she's not supposed to because she's she needs to stay
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home and take care of the Kingdom while the men go out and
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fight, but she disguises herself as a man goes out and fight and
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the biggest bad guy will say, just the witch-king the, the on
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this giant like dragon serpent ride of his, he lands and says,
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when basically laughed in her face, And is like, no man can
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kill me and she rips her helmet off and says, I am, no, man and
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sticks the blade in his face and kills him.
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It's amazing. And it's truly fucking
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phenomenal shit, okay. Well, and as you just said that,
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I'm thinking of Ahsoka saying, I'm no Jedi, right?
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Yeah. Can we talk about the parallel
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full circle? I'm just I don't know.
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There are certain things out there that will touch a person
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and Lord of the Rings is on my list.
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And apparently, also Dave Focus list.
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It's a great piece of literature, I'm just saying it
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all ties together fantasy. They, you know, it's a, the
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whole world building the character building the story
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building, the the undercurrent of hope it all runs through
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these similar stories. Yeah, yeah.
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I mean, he's very open about how that has influenced him
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throughout his life. He's not pompous and he doesn't
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come off as pompous he's just, another dude who likes Star
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Wars, who happens to also work in the Star Wars world, you
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know? Right.
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And it shows He has a love for it.
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He does. He started in as an artist who
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then thought, maybe going into animation, would combine his
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love of Art and music and storytelling and look where it's
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let him. So there's proof to anybody.
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If you're questioning whether or not you should follow your
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passion, follow those things that grab your attention and who
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knows where it will lead one day?
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And it may not be a straight line.
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No, you may not start out as an artist and think you're going to
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go into animation or whatever. And Point of like the hometown
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thing. The hometown aspect since I am
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from that area, not to speak badly about any of it, because I
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do love where I came from, but it's very blue collar.
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And a lot of times you feel like, well, it's not possible
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for me. Yeah.
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Because he said that about it. That's kind of the fuel back
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there, you know, or at least, it was for me and he's a deal older
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than me. So, I mean, you know, maybe it's
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still, I haven't lived back in that area, for, for many a year,
22:15
but there are like, just certain things.
22:18
As you think you can't do because well, I'm not in LA and
22:22
I'm just kind of a normal kid in a normal run-of-the-mill town.
22:25
And, you know, there's nothing fancy about where I come from
22:29
but that doesn't have to stop anybody at all.
22:31
No. Yeah.
22:32
I my extended family is from West Virginia which isn't too
22:35
far off from your family out just to skip across the border.
22:39
Yeah. And it's the same same thing.
22:41
It's like hard working. People who work.
22:43
They I don't know if it's so much now.
22:45
I know there's a lot of more like fracking industry but it
22:48
was definitely like Coal, mining steel mining.
22:50
You know, that kind of stuff out there, a lot of like, civil
22:53
engineering type work, which is really hard work, but it was it
22:57
didn't leave a lot of room for going after the Arts so much.
23:01
Right. Right.
23:02
And you were, at least I know that I was if you were, you
23:05
know, sciency or even artistic or something that deviated from
23:09
that path, then you were kind of you weren't the norm, right?
23:13
And you were looked at it in that way, you know.
23:15
Yeah. And I'm glad that Dave went for
23:18
it. Because yeah, if you have a
23:19
talent and you have a passion, you should just go for it.
23:22
Don't let those things limit you.
23:23
When I think he, you know, he would probably credit his
23:25
parents a lot. It's so interesting because his
23:27
parents sounds. So similar to my own parents.
23:30
His dad is Was An Architect and his mom was an artist a singer
23:34
and they just from an early age, took their kids to see operas
23:38
and plays and my parents did the same thing.
23:41
Even when we have like no money, my parents would still set aside
23:46
a little money here and there. So that at Christmas time, We
23:48
would get a big family gift and it was usually to go see a play
23:53
or to go. See like the Phantom of the
23:54
Opera when it came to town something like that.
23:56
I've never seen an opera. It's on my like, bucket list to
23:58
see it like a true. I gotta go.
24:01
I've seen always about it too. And like his parents flew him to
24:06
New York City to see Leonard Bernstein conduct just because
24:10
they thought you need to see this.
24:12
It's important. This person is important and so
24:14
they made it clear that the Arts were acceptable and were
24:17
important and encourage that and look where it led, you know, my
24:21
parents did the same thing with me, but not him.
24:23
I am not an artist working for a Lucas film, but it's still like,
24:27
no, but you have a podcast, I do.
24:29
And I am, I am fighting on a daily basis, to find a way to
24:34
make my passion my life. And so, I find a lot of
24:38
inspiration and people like Dave filoni who have made made it an
24:42
easy even said, even on my days off, you know, I'm working I'm
24:47
creating sculptures. Or a painting and he's like,
24:50
that's how I relax and people kind of make fun of him because
24:52
he's not actually relaxing, still like working.
24:55
But he said like, if my drive is to live a creative life and I
24:59
have a day where I don't take advantage of that, it's kind of
25:02
like an opportunity missed. I think that's I think that's
25:04
great advice for anyone. That's kind of, that's very
25:07
inspiring one. He said you could have a gift
25:09
but you still have to work hard at that gift.
25:11
Oh yeah, that's the thing. A lot of people just ignore it.
25:14
You study, learn. Ya gotta really go after After
25:18
the things nothing's going to fall in your lap and if it does
25:21
that, that's just some sort of crazy ass Miracle.
25:25
Absolutely, nothing. Worth having comes easy, right?
25:29
So true, if it did, you wouldn't appreciate it anyway.
25:32
I mean the appreciation of its hand in hand.
25:34
It's so true, so true. It's Wednesday too deep in this
25:37
episode we are. But it's that's why felonious
25:41
amazing. He is able to like why is it
25:43
goddamn genius? Well, I have this quote.
25:48
Wrote down from him, which he was talking about Lord of the
25:51
Rings and Narnia, but it totally applies to Star Wars as well.
25:56
And I just, I want to, like, print this and put it on my wall
25:59
because it's so amazing. He said, evil in and of itself
26:02
is not a Creator evil takes and twist things and makes things
26:06
that were good into evil but evil of its own, right?
26:11
Cannot create that's one of its failings.
26:14
And I was just thinking Anakin Anakin seriously.
26:18
We any single Sith that we talked about in last week's
26:21
episode? Yeah, they can't even take their
26:23
own kyber Crystal. They have to take someone else's
26:26
and Bleed it and they nothing. They have is original.
26:28
They took the Jedi code and rewrote it.
26:31
They don't have anything, right? Original, it's all tainted,
26:35
right? Yeah, it's just like it was such
26:37
a beautiful throwaway comment. He made he made during an
26:41
interview and I was like, this is beautiful.
26:44
And Brilliant is poetic, and it's true.
26:46
It's so true. And it's true like in
26:48
Storytelling but it kind of feels true in life.
26:51
Do that? We all start off with good
26:53
intentions. Everyone starts off innocent.
26:55
I just think that it's a nice thought to think that everything
26:58
starts off as good. You know, we all have the
27:01
potential for good. Yes, filoni.
27:06
Do you see what you do? You see what you invoke in us?
27:09
Filoni a sense of poetic Beauty and Harmony and hope.
27:13
If you want to talk about the penguins, please let me know,
27:17
sorry? It's the hill.
27:18
I'm Gonna die on folks. It's Phil, I'm gonna die on.
27:21
Oh my categories. Did you hear my cat?
27:23
I did not. Is he meowing?
27:24
Oh, yes he did. He agreed.
27:27
He too loves bologna. Oh, he's got good taste.
27:30
Yeah, I mean, he's not a lost cat but close enough.
27:33
I want to look at. They're so cute.
27:37
They're so cute. Even when they snarling hiss,
27:39
they're cute. It's kind of like what my dog
27:41
does. She snarls and hisses, but she's
27:43
pretty cute. She's not a lost cat, but she's
27:46
real cute. She's very expressive.
27:48
If she has, she's got those pissy little eyebrows.
27:54
She always looks cranky even when she's not.
27:57
I think the best way for us to wrap up.
27:59
This episode is to hear from Dave filoni himself.
28:01
We're going to play you a clip from Star Wars celebration where
28:05
he discusses. What Star Wars is at its core.
28:08
You'll have to forgive some of the lousy sound quality on this
28:11
because it is a recording of a recording.
28:13
There is a bit of fuzz on the audio that being said, it's such
28:17
a beautiful poignant quote, that we really felt, it was important
28:21
to include it. So, here it is.
28:23
It makes you make decisions, you would not make fear, makes you
28:27
think you're making good decisions in their poor
28:28
decisions because you're afraid. And if you take nothing else
28:32
away from sorry, shipping, no decision out of fear going.
28:34
The emperor says, before you and his destroyed your father and
28:38
ruined your life and you're powerless and he's made you hate
28:42
your father almost and you throw him down.
28:45
You must remember at that critical point to say, I'm going
28:49
to throw my weapon away cause I love the person next to me.
28:53
I love my father, I love my mother and nothing.
28:55
You do can destroy that nothing and you stand on your commitment
29:00
and then that inspires an etiquette, the hope that
29:04
inspires the love which is something evil does not
29:07
understand. That's the core of Star Wars and
29:11
that is the power that you can't possibly imagine when you're
29:14
evil, it'll be one speaks of Thank you Dave, for what you've
29:19
done for Star Wars, and for inspiring not just Lauren, and
29:22
I, but a host of others that I know are listening right now and
29:26
who will listen someday, or who just are silent appreciators
29:30
from afar. Thank you, Dave.
29:39
Last week's episode was all about whether or not you believe
29:42
Corky. Crees is actually a Kenobi and
29:45
we asked our listeners to tell us what they thought.
29:48
And we had some really interesting responses on
29:50
YouTube. MH said, I think the physical
29:53
resemblance between Corky and Obi.
29:55
One is one of the strongest arguments you can make, and
29:58
here's why in Clone Wars have a character looks Bears more
30:01
weight than in other shows, specifically, because of the
30:03
Clone Army. They use small changes in their
30:06
appearance to express themselves in no other show that That I've
30:09
seen has self-identification been so strongly linked with
30:12
appearance. So is it a stretch that Clone
30:14
Wars would use appearance to reflect other aspects of
30:17
identity like familial bonds? Also from YouTube?
30:21
The Listener durnin said I love the whole Corky Kenobi debate.
30:26
This truly is one of the only things I actually wish were made
30:29
Cannon or at least alluded to, in Canon.
30:32
Obi-Wan story is already so heartbreaking, so it would be
30:35
something nice amongst all the sadness to know that.
30:39
His lineage didn't just end with him, that Corky lived on.
30:44
We also posed this question to people on Instagram and on
30:46
Twitter and the overall reaction was that people do kind of think
30:52
that Corky is over ones kid and that's the teen just kept it.
30:55
A secret from him. I wonder if we'll ever have this
30:59
mystery solved for us, perhaps in the Kenobi series.
31:04
Hmm, Dave filoni. Next week, we have something
31:10
very special for our listeners, very special Lauren.
31:14
And I, instead of across the miles will be recording together
31:19
because we are visiting one, another, and it's going to be a
31:22
grand time, and we'll be recording episodes together,
31:25
which we have not done yet in the infancy of most things,
31:28
Kenobi, the podcast. It's gonna be so much fun.
31:31
I can't wait, I can't wait. We're going to be together.
31:34
We're going to be talking about Star Wars and you guys are going
31:37
to actually hear it. It in our voices because it's
31:39
going to be so much more obnoxious.
31:40
We're going to be spiking our mics, right?
31:43
And left. Yeah, but our topic, I think our
31:47
first topic is going to be, we were actually discussing
31:50
recently the similarities which there are many more of than the
31:55
differences between Ahsoka, Tano and asajj Ventress.
31:58
And I think there's a lot there. We could get like delve into
32:01
because they have a lot of things in common, believe it or
32:04
not. Yeah, I think the psychology
32:06
behind their paths. Be really fun to dig into and I
32:09
wonder if those characters would admit it to themselves that they
32:12
were similar, that'll be pretty fun to discuss Ventress and
32:16
Kenobi can get along for five minutes.
32:18
I think that Ventress and Ahsoka could get along for five minutes
32:24
maybe post season 7 Ahsoka. Yeah, maybe then because they
32:29
were together in the Jedi Who Knew Too Much like the final.
32:33
Yeah. So because Ark before she leaves
32:35
the Jedi Order, they had a run-in.
32:37
It would Get along. Yeah, they'd probably work
32:40
really well together and that's going to be fun to talk about.
32:43
I'm excited to do it in person, it's guy.
32:45
No, it's gonna be great. So we have a question for
32:49
everybody listening. We want to know how his Dave
32:52
filoni inspired you. Is there a specific thing in
32:56
Star Wars that he created that inspired?
32:58
You is there something about his personality?
32:59
Something about his history has passed.
33:02
We would love to hear your answers and if you share them
33:04
with us we might actually read them on next week's episode when
33:07
we we're together. Yes.
33:14
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