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Overcoming Temptation by the Power of the Spirit with Dr. Ronnie Floyd & The “Just in Case” Temptation with Kathy Lipp · Karl and Crew

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  S1: Broadcasting from Chicago, across North America and beyond. It's Carl
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  S1: and crew. Come as you are an experienced guide, overcome
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  S1: what seems impossible and live as you never imagined delivering
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  S1: the truth daily.
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  S2: If it were possible to have every worldly gain available.
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  S2: And you're forfeiting your soul. There's no amount of gain
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  S2: that would make it worth it.
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  S3: Our own way never ever works. Because it's apart from
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  S3: the life source, which is God.
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  S4: For me, growing up, love was always conditional and can
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  S4: be taken from you. Christ's love can't. And he went
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  S4: to the cross with my mind and my heart that night.
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  S1: Now from the call of Hope Studios, this is Carl
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  S1: and crew.
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  S5: Is big congressional House seats and in the 10th District
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  S5: of New York in the 13th district. Boy, there's been
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  S5: a massive plate shift. I'm not talking politics. I'm talking
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  S5: about let me go after three primary things here. One.
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  S5: It is it is a difficult thing to stand in Jerusalem,
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  S5: look down in the valley and to see that that
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  S5: represents a place of child sacrifice, death, despair, pain, heartache,
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  S5: rebellion against God and. What what makes it so painful
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  S5: is that in the Genesis account, the beauty of creation,
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  S5: the God created man and woman from conception. These little
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  S5: ones are absolutely precious in God's sight. Red and yellow,
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  S5: black and white. I hold dear to a few basic
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  S5: moral tenets that will really govern a civil society. And
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  S5: one is, my goodness. We've got to be careful and
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  S5: we need to be so cautionary when we begin to
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  S5: become a country that wink, scoffs or red lights, anything
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  S5: that has to do with taking the life of an infant,
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  S5: a child in the womb, and now we seem to
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  S5: exponentially have increased that speed toward approval of that pretty
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  S5: seriously in some sectors of our political parties. Okay. You
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  S5: combine that with I don't talk a lot about this,
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  S5: do I, Jonathan? I don't go after this.
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  S6: No, not so much. But I'm glad you are.
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  S5: But you go after transgenderism and this guy's. Listen, I
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  S5: think Christ followers, as we've been saying all week yesterday
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  S5: with Abdu Murray, we've got to be the most compassionate, loving,
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  S5: but truth telling people on the planet. The truth will
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  S5: set you free. My goodness, we've got liberty found in Jesus. Now,
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  S5: that doesn't mean everyone that's going to hear about this
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  S5: ultimate truth of the Savior. Jesus is going to fall
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  S5: to their knees and go, but of course I'm going
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  S5: to surrender my life to him. But it does mean
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  S5: that we we need to champion that. And we can't
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  S5: shy away no matter where our culture goes or slides.
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  S5: It's really important. But one of my great concerns is,
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  S5: and boy, it's not just mine, it's it's people of
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  S5: both sides of the aisle. Great concern. There is a
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  S5: there is a rise of anti-Semitism that is undeniable in
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  S5: our country. And it appears that the beat goes on
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  S5: and on and on. And I'm not saying that we
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  S5: should greenlight or approve of everything Israel does. They're fallen.
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  S5: They're sinners. Nobody says that they have some stamp of
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  S5: moral authority on them at all. But I tell you what,
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  S5: that little country the size of new Jersey has exercised
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  S5: great restraint in the face of enemies all around for
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  S5: many years. Great restraint. And it's it's painful, guys. Um,
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  S5: there are. There are poles that are now. And I'm
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  S5: not talking poles. POLLS I'm talking pol politicians, poles, politicians
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  S5: that are now justifying nine over 11, 25 years ago,
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  S5: justifying it, saying it's justified in long form podcasts. It's
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  S5: a different day in America and we need to not
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  S5: become angry evangelicals. And we need to shine brightly for Jesus.
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  S5: You know, the tendency is to either go into a
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  S5: bunker or get angry or something. And that's not the solution,
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  S5: is it, young man?
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  S6: It is certainly not. And it's easy to it's easy
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  S6: to get angry. And I think, you know, talking about
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  S6: temptation week, we hear these things. Yeah. And the temptation
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  S6: is to become angry, to start screaming and make ourselves
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  S6: heard that way. And I think Satan kind of wants
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  S6: us to be tempted into that, because it really can
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  S6: hurt our witness in the way that we talk if
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  S6: we're not careful. I think the first response we need
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  S6: to have before we do anything is to fall on
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  S6: our knees and ask for the Lord's help, ask for
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  S6: his intervening and for to ask for his wisdom, to
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  S6: trust him, and then to stand up and say what
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  S6: we need to say, but say it with love and
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  S6: with his guiding first.
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  S5: Yeah, it's really true. Boom crew, we are so grateful
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  S5: for you. And I think one of the greatest Threats
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  S5: to the gospel of Jesus Christ is is angry Christianity.
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  S5: And you got to hold two things at one time.
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  S5: You got to hold the fact that we're going to
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  S5: stand on truth and we're going to stand in love.
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  S5: And boy, that can be a tough combo. But Jesus
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  S5: put it on display and we can too. We're going
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  S5: to have a lot going on here today. My goodness,
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  S5: coming off this great interview with Cathy Lipp. And some
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  S5: of you hear that, and you think in light of
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  S5: everything that's going on in this world, my goodness, do
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  S5: we need to take care of clutter in our homes
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  S5: and in our lives? And the answer is, yeah, this
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  S5: is this is a time to allow the Holy Spirit
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  S5: to give us guidance and direction in, in every way
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  S5: he prompts us. There's a need for Holy Spirit sensitivity
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  S5: like never before, that we would shine brightly in a
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  S5: world that's living in spiritual fog and darkness. And remember,
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  S5: it's the grace of God and the grace of God
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  S5: alone that's called us out of darkness and into the
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  S5: light and being grateful for that. It's so important. Got
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  S5: a lot on my heart here today, but we we
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  S5: can trust in the Lord. We can trust in the Lord.
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  S5: He is sovereign. He's not wringing his hands. Remember that
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  S5: God's not wringing his hands.
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  S6: Oh, no. What do I do here? It's getting out
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  S6: of control.
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  S5: It's getting out of control.
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  S6: Not so much.
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  S5: He's got this in control. Father. Today we commit ourselves
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  S5: to you, Lord. We lay our lives down as a
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  S5: living sacrifice. This is our act of worship today. Renew
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  S5: our minds, we pray, make us just sweetly solid in
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  S5: Jesus today. And we trust you moment by moment. We
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  S5: give you praise. Lord, this song right here, right now.
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  S1: Your spiritual pit stop to keep you going in the race.
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  S1: You're listening to Carl and Crew.
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  S5: It's Carl and crew and what a great morning we're having.
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  S5: By the way, just to let you know, Ali is
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  S5: Lord Jesus.
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  S6: I like that. Amen.
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  S5: Yeah. Do that for sure. Uh, gonna have a question
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  S5: I've got a a question that requires a theological answer,
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  S5: and I'm going to let you fill in the blanks.
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  S5: Boom crew. I'm talking to those of you that kept
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  S5: going back to the very things that hurt you over
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  S5: and over again. You kept going back to the things
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  S5: that hurt you over and over again. Meaning you succumb
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  S5: to temptation. Now, no one is immune to this. We've
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  S5: all done this, and many are doing it, some at
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  S5: very destructive levels of consequence, others at pretty minor. But
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  S5: you know, it's robbing you of joy. Even the smallest
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  S5: things that were tempted and take the bait of Satan
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  S5: and we go there. Why did you keep going back
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  S5: to the very things that hurt you the most? And
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  S5: what did God do in you to break that cycle?
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  S5: You've gotten victory not over everything, but you've gotten victory
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  S5: over some temptations. What did God do to break that
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  S5: cycle of you, going back to the things that hurt
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  S5: you the most? How did God work? We're going to
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  S5: to think about this. You got a lump in your throat.
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  S5: But you know, God gave you victory over something that
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  S5: was cycling. You kept going back to the things that
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  S5: were hurting you the most. How did God break that cycle?
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  S5: Give us a call right now. Here we go. 805 557898.
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  S5: You guys are smart. You know the word God's been
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  S1: He was running from God, but God's love brought him home.
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  S1: Carl is in the crew. It's Carl and crew on
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  S1: Moody Radio.
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  S5: I man, this can be small or large, can be
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  S5: almost running the gamut of any temptation. Isn't it amazing?
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  S5: Boon crew. How Satan baits us to go back and
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  S5: back and back to the very things that have hurt
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  S5: us the most. It's just it's astounding how this happens.
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  S5: Nobody's immune to it. We've all seen it happen before.
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  S5: I've got a question for you. Why did you keep
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  S5: going back to that temptation that hurt you the most?
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  S5: And how did God deliver you? This is a theological question,
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  S5: and it's got a theological answer. A study of God. Alexis.
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  S5: First time caller. Uh, Bradenton, Florida. Good to have you
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  S5: with us. What do you say, sister?
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  S7: I say, um, what kept me going back was myself.
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  S7: I mean, I always felt like I am one to
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  S7: take on a challenge, and I can help and and
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  S7: heal anything. And even if it took breaking me, breaking me,
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  S7: me losing things, I feel like I'm. I'm on for
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  S7: a challenge Until it was breaking me to the point
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  S7: that I had to just lean on God. I had
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  S7: to pray and beg God to please remove this situation. Yes,
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  S7: please God, whatever it takes. I don't care, just remove
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  S7: it because it was literally destroying me. So I just say,
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  S7: you just have to lean on God because some things,
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  S7: people and things cannot help you with. Only God can.
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  S5: Yeah. You know, Alexis, this is not a simple little
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  S5: thing that you're saying here. And this is the difference
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  S5: between kind of foxhole prayers and fully abandoned prayers. Prayers
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  S5: where you say, I can't do it. And that's a
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  S5: humbling thing, isn't it, Alexis?
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  S7: Oh, yes. Very, very. Because, you know, we pray and
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  S7: we say, oh God, thank you for the day. But
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  S7: it wasn't a God. Thank you for today. It was
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  S7: God like.
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  S5: Deliver me.
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  S7: You know what else I can do? Yes. Like this
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  S7: is either going to kill me or, you know, it's
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  S7: nothing but destruction going to come out of this situation.
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  S7: That's a great word to honestly just take it away.
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  S5: Yeah.
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  S7: And I told God, if you take it, I would
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  S7: never go back. And I have vowed and honestly, any
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  S7: situation I prayed that strong on, I have never went
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  S7: back to it.
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  S5: Praise God. That's an awesome thing. And that's utter dependence
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  S5: on God. Lean not on your own understanding. In all
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  S5: your ways acknowledge him and he will make your paths straight. It's.
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  S5: It's that heart rending prayer that believes God. If you
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  S5: don't do it, it won't happen. And it's beautiful. Dennis
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  S5: Fox Lake, Illinois. Thanks for calling in. Uh, why did
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  S5: you keep going back to the temptation that hurt you
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  S5: the most? And how did God deliver you?
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  S8: I just kept going back because of shame and guilt.
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  S8: I was addicted to drugs and alcohol and, uh, um,
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  S8: I ended up in a cell and I dropped to
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  S8: my knees with my hands out crying, and asked him
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  S8: to take it from me that I couldn't do it alone.
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  S8: And then, uh, I've been a year and a month
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  S8: sober and clean and.
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  S5: Praise God.
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  S8: I have temptations. I have, you know, I've done some work.
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  S8: I went to see a celebrate recovery and, uh, but
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  S8: everything I've done has been through Jesus Christ.
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  S5: Yeah. It's, it's all the out, it's all the overflow
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  S5: of that moment of absolute surrender, Dennis, isn't it?
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  S8: Yes. I mean, I really gave it to him, you know, because, uh,
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  S8: you know, I, I just I got sick and tired
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  S8: of going back and upsetting my family, and it was
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  S8: just because of the last time I used, you know,
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  S8: I and I disappear from my loved ones and, you know,
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  S8: I was hurting them and myself and I just couldn't
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  S8: do it by myself. But this time was different this time.
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  S8: It just it's Jesus Christ. I have to give him all,
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  S8: all the glory for it. Because, uh, I told him,
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  S8: just like I just heard the, the young lady on
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  S8: the phone. I told him I made a deal with him.
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  S8: I told him I, I promise to do whatever you
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  S8: want me to do and I won't go back and
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  S8: I won't do it. And I have all, all the, um,
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  S8: it just freed me. I can't explain how different it is.
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  S8: He took it from me. Most people have to go
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  S8: through all these classes and and talk with other people,
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  S8: and I do. Um, but I don't do it, you know,
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  S8: like on a normal basis. Most of my work is
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  S8: through the Bible and through journaling and through, um, Rick
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  S8: Warren books. I read, I read all positive books and
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  S8: I just know how to keep my head right. I
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  S8: prayed for, yeah. Open heart. Fill my heart with love.
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  S8: Take positive thoughts and and it's. I really got it.
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  S5: Yeah. Beautiful. Dennis, thank you for calling in today from
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  S5: Fox Lake, Illinois. That's that's beautiful. Listen, blessed are the
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  S5: poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
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  S5: First words out of Jesus's mouth on the sermon on
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  S5: the Mount. Don't let a double minded man believe he
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  S5: will receive anything from the Lord. And that means double soul.
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  S5: That's in James one. And here's it's it's not a threat.
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  S5: It's a promise that as we abandon all for the
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  S5: sake of God's glory and continue in that posture of, oh, God,
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  S5: I need you every hour, I need you. That's good theology, man.
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  S5: That's where God breaks through taking your calls. Why did
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  S5: you keep going back to the temptation that hurt you
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  S5: the most. And how did God free you? 805 five. Five, 78. 98.
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  S5: If you're on the phone, stay there. 805 557898. I'd
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  S5: love to hear your story right now. Boom crew.
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  S1: Your shot of hope to get you through the day.
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  S4: You are so, so loved. God does not want you
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  S4: to stay in your past. And I want you to
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  S4: know and believe that today.
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  S1: You're listening to Carl and Crew.
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  S5: Temptation is real, and it often is an attempt to
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  S5: get us back to the very things that hurt us most.
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  S5: Breaking free, man. That's God's work. How did God work
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  S5: to break that logjam of temptation, that thing that kept
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  S5: coming back over and over again. Taking your phone calls. 805. Five. Five, 78. 90. 98.
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  S5: You can remain anonymous if you like. 800 555 I
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  S5: can get a number out 805 557898 Burton Forest Park.
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  S5: What do you say, Burt?
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  S9: Hey, Carl, get that number out, bro. Get that number.
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  S5: Yeah, I got it out, man.
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  S9: It's there, it's there. Hey, so here's what it's not temptation.
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  S9: A way that people may think, but it was unforgiveness
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  S9: of a family member for me. And what I kept
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  S9: getting tempted to continue to do was to focus on
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  S9: the hurt, focus on focus on the pain, you know,
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  S9: keeping that up, staying in unforgiveness. And what God said
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  S9: to me was, I need you to pray for that person.
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  S9: I want you to intercede for that person and stay
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  S9: in my word. And he also told me to cast
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  S9: my cares upon him, cast that fear, worry, doubt, the anxiety,
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  S9: the anger, all of it. Cast it to him. And
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  S9: that's where the release came. And that's where the the
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  S9: deliverance came and was able to, through tears, you know,
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  S9: was able to to break free from that thing.
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  S5: That's beautiful. That's that's great. Burt. We were tackling this
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  S5: one yesterday. And you're you're describing it to a tee
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  S5: here in Hebrews four. We've got this text here for
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  S5: we do not have a high priest, Jesus, who is
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  S5: unable to sympathize with our weaknesses, but one who in
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  S5: every respect has been tempted and by the way, tempted
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  S5: to be unforgiving, is a very real temptation, no doubt.
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  S5: But one who in every respect has been tempted as
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  S5: we are, yet without sin. Now verse 16 is a roundhouse.
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  S5: Let us then, with confidence, draw near to the throne
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  S5: of grace, that we may receive mercy and find grace
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  S5: to help in time of need. Time of need. What's
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  S5: that specifically related to temptation? It's related to temptation. And
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  S5: ultimately chapter four of Hebrews is entering into the rest
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  S5: of God. See, the throne room of Grace is, as
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  S5: Greg Dempster is often saying when he comes on the
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  S5: show here, it's the throne room of I will do
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  S5: it for you. His unmerited favor, his unparalleled power. This
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  S5: doesn't mean that you don't do anything, but it means
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  S5: that you cling to him first and foremost. Dependence before diligence.
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  S5: It's the spiritual order of things. When you come heartbroken, sick,
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  S5: and tired of being sick and tired, and you come
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  S5: to God and say, God, I can't do it. Blessed
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  S5: are the poor in spirit, friend. That's where God works.
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  S5: Way to go, Burt. Love you man. Rob. Greenville, North Carolina.
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  S5: Thanks for calling in today. What do you say?
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  S10: How are you doing today?
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  S5: Good man. What's the word?
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  S10: Yeah. So, you know, God has really been taking a
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  S10: lot of idols out of my life. And, um, there's.
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  S10: He's wanting me to eat better. It's one of the
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  S10: I won't say last ones, but the one of the
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  S10: ones he's working on now. But you you know, you
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  S10: always want to. I want to do what I want
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  S10: to do. Yeah, I'll eat a little bit. But anyway,
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  S10: we always walk up to that line and step to
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  S10: that line. But the way that he has really freed
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  S10: me from it is really Christian radio. Um, you know,
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  S10: I listen every day pretty much. And, and he has
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  S10: used Christian radio, the word of God to convict me
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  S10: of that and keep me in the right direction. And
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  S10: I really encourage people just to be in the word
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  S10: 4 or 5 times a week through Christian radio or whatever.
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  S10: But I'll give you an example. So, um, you know,
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  S10: I'm thinking, okay, what am I going to eat today? And,
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  S10: you know, I come up with, well, I can eat
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  S10: this and I won't eat that. And, uh, hear on
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  S10: the radio, uh, the story of Balaam and how God
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  S10: allowed him to go ahead and make a decision and
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  S10: do what he wanted so that he could, he could
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  S10: see the consequences of it, and it just convicted me.
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  S10: So anyway, yeah, word of God, I think is what
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  S10: frees people. It's freed me anyway. And I'm so thankful.
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  S5: Yeah. Thank you so much, Rob. Appreciate you calling in
• 23:23
  S5: this morning. Yeah. Guys in uh, on Monday, we gave
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  S5: out a resource that fits this hand in glove. It's
• 23:32
  S5: declaring truth to satanic attacks that says, I'm not going
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  S5: to do this. And some of you just need to
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  S5: be armed. I'm going to rehearse it again. 70 times
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  S5: in the New Testament, we find the word rhema. It
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  S5: means the spoken word of God. Jesus dealt with temptation
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  S5: when he came out of the wilderness. How did he
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  S5: deal with it? He says, man shall not live by
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  S5: bread alone, but by every rhema word that comes from
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  S5: the mouth of God. And you know what Jesus did?
• 24:06
  S5: He took the Word of God, Deuteronomy in particular, and
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  S5: he spoke it back to Satan, who was kicking him
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  S5: while he was down. He was hungry. Satan thought maybe
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  S5: after 40 days she's ready to take authority, find security
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  S5: in substitute gods himself. And he didn't. And you know what?
• 24:31
  S5: He used the word of God. It's the offensive weapon
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  S5: of war. It's used again in Ephesians six. The only
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  S5: offensive weapon of war. Paul says, take up the sword
• 24:43
  S5: of the spirit, which is the rhema word of God,
• 24:45
  S5: the spoken word of God. Speak it out. We got
• 24:50
  S5: a resource for you. Jonathan. Let's give it away right here.
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  S6: Yeah. Nothing more important than speaking out truth. And the
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  S6: truth of who you are can bring so much victory
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  S6: when Satan's talking to you. He's bringing things upon you.
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  S6: Know who you are in Christ. And speak out what
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  S6: God's Word says about you. Text the word truth to
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  S6: 800 555, 7898 the word truth to 805 557898. It's
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  S6: a short little blog with a bunch of little truths
• 25:17
  S6: that you can grab up, and each one is backed
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  S6: up by scripture passages that you can go to memorize
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  S6: and then bring up when you face those attacks.
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  S5: Yeah. Beautiful man. Okay. Got time for you. You were
• 25:30
  S5: going back and taking the bait of Satan with temptation,
• 25:34
  S5: and you kept going back to what was hurting you most.
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  S5: How did God how did God break you free? If
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  S1: Standing on the rock each and every day you're listening
• 25:59
  S1: to Carl and crew.
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  S5: Yeah. Great song right there. Elevation rhythm. Goodbye yesterday is
• 26:07
  S5: it doesn't mean that we'll be temptation free. But here's
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  S5: the great hope when you see how God works to
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  S5: break you free from a cycle of temptation that's taken
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  S5: you back to the very same things that hurt you most. Now, now,
• 26:21
  S5: now you've got this forever template for the balance of
• 26:26
  S5: your life where you do not have to be enslaved
• 26:28
  S5: to taking that bait. And that's powerful. We get time
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  S5: quickly here. 805, five, five, 78, 98. You kept going
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  S5: back to the temptation that hurt you most, and then
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  S5: God broke you free. How did that happen? De in Chicago, Illinois.
• 26:46
  S5: What do you say? De.
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  S11: Hey, good morning, Carl, and thanks for having thanks for
• 26:50
  S11: taking my my call. I found that the temptation when
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  S11: you go back to a person or a relationship that
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  S11: you know is not good for you, the Lord will
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  S11: allow you to see the very essence of that person,
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  S11: and he'll allow you to see the very, the damage
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  S11: that that relationship continues to cause you. And I think
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  S11: in that revelation of the reality of the situation, the
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  S11: Lord delivered and will continue to deliver us from, from
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  S11: that that person or the very thing that we put
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  S11: in the place of God in our life, where we
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  S11: should desire that relationship with the Lord. And instead we
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  S11: look to people for satisfaction. I think that he will,
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  S11: you know, afford that situation to kind of turn and
• 27:36
  S11: you'll see that it really isn't the best for you.
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  S5: Yeah. D we're looking for love or affirmation in places
• 27:43
  S5: that oftentimes look, but we can get encouragement and affirmation
• 27:49
  S5: from people. But if we're looking for affirmation and love
• 27:54
  S5: from a person alone, that can be deadly. Right on. Lee.
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  S5: It's ultimately found in Jesus Christ. Sandy in Cleveland, Ohio.
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  S5: Just got a minute here. Sandy, what do you say?
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  S12: Um, for me, it was alcohol. Um, it it's rampant
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  S12: in my family and, uh, it definitely affected me. Um,
• 28:15
  S12: I probably fought it for a good two decades. And
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  S12: last year, I really had to come to Jesus meeting. Um,
• 28:24
  S12: you know, I prayed about it and I was journaling
• 28:26
  S12: about it and it was just that terrible cycle that
• 28:29
  S12: you were talking about. You know, I would walk away
• 28:32
  S12: from it and then somehow the devil would get back
• 28:35
  S12: in there and tempt me. Um, so I've been good
• 28:39
  S12: for about a year and, um, I am free. And
• 28:43
  S12: I believe that is all because of Jesus.
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  S5: Amen. Sandy. Sister, that is so spot on. You you
• 28:51
  S5: came into the throne room of Grace where you were
• 28:54
  S5: broken at the end of yourself and said, God, you
• 28:56
  S5: got to do for me what I can't do for myself.
• 28:58
  S5: And that's powerful. Thank you Sandy. God can set you
• 29:02
  S5: free from your temptations, friends.
• 29:05
  S1: Start your day moving closer to Jesus. You're listening to
• 29:09
  S1: Carl and crew, so we're.
• 29:12
  S5: Tackling.
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  S1: Experts.
• 29:14
  S5: All week long. We always like to bring in experts,
• 29:16
  S5: but we're hitting a different angle. This week we're asking
• 29:20
  S5: the question, what are the temptations that can pull us
• 29:25
  S5: away from really pursuing excellence in the area for which
• 29:30
  S5: you are an expert? Boy, have we got a big
• 29:33
  S5: one right now. She wrote it. She developed it. She's
• 29:37
  S5: got the Clutter Free Academy. It's in podcast form and
• 29:41
  S5: all kinds of resources and Facebook pages and groups, you
• 29:45
  S5: name it. She's got it all. Sounds like it's a problem, Cathy.
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  S13: It kind of is for about 66% of women, a
• 29:53
  S13: little less for men. But when we're talking two thirds
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  S13: of the population, I would say we have a battle
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  S13: with stuff.
• 30:01
  S5: I would say Jonathan checked me on this one. One
• 30:06
  S5: of the biggest hit podcasts we've ever had, and on
• 30:10
  S5: an ongoing basis is Cathy Lipp dealing with clutter. Isn't
• 30:13
  S5: that right?
• 30:13
  S6: Oh, absolutely. People gobble this up because it's such a
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  S6: needed thing and it's something that's not really often talked about.
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  S6: I mean, yeah, we we've had almost 3000 links go
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  S6: out for, for Cathy's website.
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  S5: Wow. Okay. So Cathy, the demand is high and we're
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  S5: so grateful for you. I'm going to start this a
• 30:32
  S5: little bit differently rather than going right after temptations. How
• 30:35
  S5: did we get into this? It's a Western. It's a
• 30:39
  S5: uniquely Western thing that's going on here. But man, we're
• 30:43
  S5: deluged with stuff, aren't we?
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  S13: Let's be honest, we are all financially, you know, it's
• 30:49
  S13: just harder right now. We we all know that. But
• 30:53
  S13: less of a percentage of our finances is going to
• 30:58
  S13: stuff because compared to 50 years ago. Things are cheaper.
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  S13: You know, there's mass production. And so we're able to
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  S13: teemu our pants and we're able to, you know, go
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  S13: to target and pick up that plastic thing. And that
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  S13: in itself isn't, you know, the target run isn't a
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  S13: bad thing. But when we can buy so much stuff
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  S13: and we're chasing trends, even if we don't think we are,
• 31:24
  S13: you know, that water bottle we got last year, there's
• 31:27
  S13: a better one with a better straw. And so marketers
• 31:31
  S13: are determined to tell us you need the better straw. Yeah.
• 31:34
  S13: You know what? You're not going to drink the water
• 31:35
  S13: if you don't have the better straw. And so we're
• 31:38
  S13: constantly being told to upgrade and we're just we're a
• 31:42
  S13: country of upgraders. And I don't blame us. I blame
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  S13: the marketers who are having to develop new and newer,
• 31:49
  S13: newer things to sell us over and over and over again.
• 31:53
  S5: And they're good at it, Kathy. They're good.
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  S13: Oh my goodness. It's literally a science. It's brain science
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  S13: that they are discovering and using to get us to.
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  S13: It's a scarcity mentality. Yeah. Like if I don't have it,
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  S13: if my kids don't have it, if my house doesn't
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  S13: have it, what does that say about me? Does it
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  S13: say I can't take care of my family? Does it
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  S13: say that I don't care about how I present myself
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  S13: to the world? It's so insidious. And as we're talking
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  S13: about it, it sounds ridiculous, doesn't it? Yeah. But really,
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  S13: this is what they're doing to our heads and hearts.
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  S5: Yeah. It's so commonplace. Okay. So what we want to
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  S5: talk about with you today is the temptations that come
• 32:39
  S5: with trying to be clutter free. So I would say
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  S5: by and large, almost every person listening right now could
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  S5: yell out in one voice if I ask the question,
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  S5: do you want to be clutter free? The resounding response
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  S5: is yes, but there are temptations that come our way.
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  S5: And if we can identify him, Cathy, then we can
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  S5: deal with those temptations as they come. Biblically, we're told
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  S5: we're going to get tempted. And even with clutter. What
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  S5: are those big temptations that are preventing us from becoming
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  S5: clutter free?
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  S13: There are several, but let me give you the biggie.
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  S13: It's just in case. Just in case. Yes, the more stuff,
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  S13: the more backups, the. Just in case. You know, we
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  S13: have anxiety. We are anxious to over gather. We want
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  S13: more stuff around us because that's what makes us feel safe.
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  S13: If we know that we have enough clothes, if we
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  S13: know that we have enough food, and then our brains say, well,
• 33:49
  S13: if seven were good, 70 are better.
• 33:52
  S5: Right.
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  S13: And it's this anxious attachment to our things. That is
• 33:59
  S13: really it's a struggle of our heart and our minds.
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  S13: And so that's where the temptation comes. If if one
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  S13: is good, 14 or better, and then we get to
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  S13: a place where we don't even know what we have
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  S13: because we have so much.
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  S5: You know, I want to go all Screwtape Letter on
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  S5: us here. It seems to me that and, and I've,
• 34:21
  S5: I've experienced this, so I'm going to be self-effacing here.
• 34:24
  S5: It seems to me that if Satan's going to attack
• 34:26
  S5: us in the area of clutter, he's going to whisper,
• 34:30
  S5: there might be a case where you need this. You're right.
• 34:33
  S5: There might. Just in case you better hold on to it.
• 34:36
  S5: And I was going through my closet. I forget when
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  S5: probably six months ago. And I fancy myself an organized guy,
• 34:45
  S5: but I can get sucked into this. And without even
• 34:49
  S5: having talked with you yet about this, I had in
• 34:52
  S5: my mind. Well, and I'm thinking of one quarter zip
• 34:56
  S5: because I'm a quarter zip guy. I had a quarter
• 34:58
  S5: zip shirt, and I remember it specifically, and I remember thinking,
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  S5: I don't like it. It doesn't fit right. But and
• 35:06
  S5: then came the words just in case. And then it
• 35:09
  S5: goes into you maybe could use this for cleaning the yard.
• 35:12
  S5: Even though I got yard cleaning clothes. You can, you can. And,
• 35:17
  S5: and it's it's a freeing thing, isn't it? When we
• 35:19
  S5: can bust through that temptation and go, no, no, I'm
• 35:23
  S5: not going to buy that. But there's got to be
• 35:25
  S5: a bigger yes, even for saying no, I'm not going
• 35:28
  S5: to live by just in case. How do we bust
• 35:30
  S5: through that temptation?
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  S13: Exodus 16 the manna. You know, God told them to
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  S13: gather only what they needed for today, right? Yes. And
• 35:41
  S13: so do I have enough food for today? Do I
• 35:44
  S13: have enough clothing for today? And yes, I'd love to
• 35:47
  S13: be prepared. Yes, I love to make sure I know
• 35:50
  S13: what I have for an emergency. But how many of
• 35:53
  S13: us have food that is rotted in our pantries, in
• 35:57
  S13: our refrigerator? We have too much. And so if I
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  S13: can look at things and say, what do I need
• 36:04
  S13: for today? And I also can say, hey, I know
• 36:08
  S13: I have enough for tomorrow too. God has already provided.
• 36:13
  S13: And so we hoard. Guys, when I say hoard, you know,
• 36:17
  S13: we're talking hoard with a lowercase h. You know, there
• 36:21
  S13: is uppercase H, which is a mental disorder that needs
• 36:26
  S13: to be addressed by a professional. But for me, who says,
• 36:29
  S13: you know, well, do I have enough pants? Do I
• 36:32
  S13: have enough shirts that I'm going to look cute all
• 36:34
  S13: the time? I am hoarding out of fear. And it's saying,
• 36:40
  S13: I don't know that what I have is enough. And
• 36:44
  S13: so I want to trust for tomorrow's provision. And so
• 36:50
  S13: part of what I can do is say, do I
• 36:53
  S13: have everything that I need? The answer is probably yes.
• 36:56
  S13: And if you don't, that's when we say, okay, there
• 37:00
  S13: are people around who can help. Yes, but that's not
• 37:03
  S13: most people's problem. Most people's problem is too much. Not
• 37:07
  S13: not enough.
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  S5: You know, interesting, Kathy, because I have been to some
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  S5: to a Salvation Army or two and I've noticed, are
• 37:18
  S5: there people in there that are just collecting more stuff? Certainly,
• 37:23
  S5: but there's a lot of people in there that can
• 37:26
  S5: utilize our just in case stuff today.
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  S13: 100%. And that's why I believe, you know, sometimes I
• 37:35
  S13: have bought things that were not the right things like, okay,
• 37:40
  S13: that color pant, not really great. That shirt didn't fit
• 37:44
  S13: exactly right. And I often wonder, is that just meant
• 37:50
  S13: for me to pass on to somebody else? Was I
• 37:53
  S13: just the the hands that picked that up so that
• 37:58
  S13: somebody else could have it?
• 38:00
  S5: Oh, I bought that shirt before I have. I bought
• 38:02
  S5: that shirt, brought it home and my bride's like, well,
• 38:06
  S5: that doesn't go with orange hair. That ain't working.
• 38:09
  S13: Right.
• 38:10
  S5: And I'm like, man. And you know what's funny is
• 38:14
  S5: when you're at the store, it looked pretty good. And
• 38:16
  S5: then you get home and you're like, that ain't good.
• 38:18
  S5: But maybe God in his providence allowed you to buy
• 38:23
  S5: that for someone else to get for a buck 50.
• 38:26
  S13: It's so true. And guys don't feel bad about those things.
• 38:31
  S13: And you know, we're all terrible at returning things. We
• 38:34
  S13: just are. It's like it's so easy to buy things.
• 38:37
  S13: And then returning them is like ten times the effort
• 38:40
  S13: because you're in the store, you try it on. The
• 38:43
  S13: lighting is great. They've got the mirrors that make you
• 38:46
  S13: look skinny, yet everything is work. They want you to
• 38:51
  S13: buy that shirt. But here's what I have to ask myself.
• 38:57
  S13: AM I buying this thing to manage a feeling? What
• 39:02
  S13: feeling am I trying to manage? And maybe it's fear
• 39:08
  S13: of not enough. Maybe it is. I'm just anxious about
• 39:13
  S13: something coming up, and I want to dress a certain part,
• 39:18
  S13: and I'm not issuing any judgments around that. No, I'm
• 39:21
  S13: just saying, when I notice what my temptation is to say,
• 39:26
  S13: I need just one more. Just one more, just one more.
• 39:30
  S13: And if I can start to say, wow, Kathy, why
• 39:33
  S13: are you feeling so anxious about this dinner with this
• 39:37
  S13: set of friends? What's going on there? Or if I
• 39:40
  S13: say what's going on at work that I feel like
• 39:44
  S13: I need new clothes or what is going on at home,
• 39:49
  S13: that I am over buying vegetables and meat that are
• 39:53
  S13: going to rot if I don't have a plan to
• 39:56
  S13: make the dinners. And just noticing. I think that's so
• 40:00
  S13: important because noticing without judgment to say, oh wow, I'm
• 40:05
  S13: really anxious about this. Let me look at that feeling
• 40:09
  S13: instead of trying to silence that feeling with stuff.
• 40:14
  S5: Kathy Lipp. My guest. Okay. Kathy, what's the biggest clutter
• 40:17
  S5: in our home? Is it clothing? Is it shoes? Is
• 40:21
  S5: it plastic stuff? Is it organizers? Is it what are
• 40:25
  S5: the biggest clutterers in a home?
• 40:27
  S13: I really think, at least in the homes that I have.
• 40:31
  S13: And then in Clutter Free Academy on Facebook where we
• 40:34
  S13: talk about this stuff, paper is really such a problem
• 40:39
  S13: because so much paper. You can have the sales flyer
• 40:43
  S13: that had, you know, you think, okay, I'm going to
• 40:46
  S13: look at that and I'm going to plan all the
• 40:47
  S13: dinner and maybe you never do that and that's okay.
• 40:49
  S13: But then there are papers. It's like, well, these are
• 40:52
  S13: the property taxes you own. Each piece of paper has
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  S13: I'm behind on that bill because I wasn't organized. I'm
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  S13: I bought a shirt that wasn't wasn't cute, wasn't, you know,
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  S13: What is that about?
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  S5: Because well, because the first one was so pick and
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  S5: good on you. Let's get four more, right?
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  S13: Why? You know, I own a washing machine. I could
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  S13: wear that every day.
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  S14: Oh, Cathy.
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  S1: She's a choreographer extraordinaire and everything is Greek to her.
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  S1: Super di is in the crew. It's Carl and crew
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  S1: on Moody Radio.
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  S5: Why do you keep going back to the same temptation
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  S5: that actually, when you take the bait of Satan, it
• 43:07
  S5: hurts you the most. And how does God want to
• 43:10
  S5: break that? Let's read covering some tracks here from the
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  S5: last couple of days. One is we gotta have the
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  S5: sword of the spirit, which is the Word of God.
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  S5: That word rhema, it's the same word that's used when
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  S5: Jesus is tempted three times by Satan, and he says
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  S5: some powerful words. Man shall not live by bread alone,
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  S5: but by every rhema word, the spoken word of God
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  S5: that proceeds from the mouth of God. Now here's very important.
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  S5: This is not new revelation. It is the Word of God.
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  S5: That's one. Get the Word of God. Speak it out
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  S5: in the face of temptation. The other is found in
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  S5: Hebrews four that we've covered. This is yesterday. Jesus was
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  S5: tempted in every way, yet he didn't succumb to it.
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  S5: He's without sin. And then we find. Let us with
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  S5: confidence draw near to the throne of grace. You know
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  S5: what the throne of grace is? It's the throne of.
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  S5: I will do it for you. Doesn't mean you don't
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  S5: have anything to do with it. But God will work. Doctor.
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  S5: Ronnie Floyd. It's an amazing thing, isn't it? We've we've
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  S5: experienced this. Everyone has. Temptation takes us back often to
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  S5: the thing that hurts us most. And it's a. It's
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  S5: a death cycle, isn't it, Ronnie?
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  S15: It really can be. Very much so. Carl. Thank you
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  S15: for having me on today. I think that the real
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  S15: reason we go back at times to many of those
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  S15: things or one of those things, whichever it may be
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  S15: in someone's life, is the stronghold. It is a stronghold. Yes,
• 44:50
  S15: the enemy does everything he can to to continually pull
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  S15: us in, pull us back in to the, to the
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  S15: sinful life, to the carnal life. And so the only
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  S15: way ultimately to overcome certain temptations in our lives that
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  S15: really bind us is overcoming and being set free from
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  S15: the spiritual stronghold that the enemy has on your life.
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  S15: You have to take back the territory that you surrendered
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  S15: to the enemy years ago with various other Of the flesh,
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  S15: lust of the mind, lust of whatever it may have been. Yeah.
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  S15: And we need to be free. Bottom line. Yeah. Jesus said,
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  S15: I've come to set you free. And free indeed.
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  S5: We know that Paul teaches this. That unchecked anger can
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  S5: give Satan a foothold, a toehold. And by the way,
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  S5: boom crew. This doesn't mean Satan possesses you. It means
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  S5: that you give room to the enemy. But this renowned
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  S5: renouncing these strongholds. Explain that. Ronnie. Why? Why do we
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  S5: need to make declarative statements by the power of God
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  S5: to these enemies of our soul? Why is that?
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  S15: Well, because the Word of God and the blood of
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  S15: Jesus and the name of Jesus, and the testimony of
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  S15: what God has done in our lives become the weapons
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  S15: of our warfare according to the Scripture. And we need
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  S15: to use the weapons of our warfare to defeat our enemies.
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  S15: And the ultimate enemy is Satan, and he has various
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  S15: holds on us periodically, if we surrender to what he
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  S15: wills for us. Or perhaps those weaknesses of the past,
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  S15: those strongholds of the past, might all of a sudden
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  S15: begin to, uh, take, uh, take fruit in our life
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  S15: in some way. And we have to constantly, or we
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  S15: have to, uh, get rid of it, um, in as
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  S15: soon as it, as soon as it raises its head
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  S15: in our lives. It's like in when the scripture talks
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  S15: about the root of bitterness.
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  S5: Yes.
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  S15: Uh, you know, we've got to get the root out
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  S15: just like you get the root out in your lawn.
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  S15: You taken care of, you got to get the root out.
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  S15: And that, that, that key is what is not walking. Um,
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  S15: With grieving the spirit, but that we walk with the
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  S15: spirit step by step. The only way to ever overcome
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  S15: temptation is to stand on the Word of God and
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  S15: walk in the power of the Holy Spirit. Bottom line. Yeah,
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  S15: that's the secret. And that's the key.
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  S5: Yeah. And so let's, let's take this from the jump
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  S5: because let's get real honest here. If there's a, if
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  S5: there's a hint of either I can get this change
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  S5: myself or a, I'm not sure I'm really ready to
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  S5: make a break from this until I was mentioned this earlier.
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  S5: It's the first words of Jesus blessed are the poor
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  S5: in spirit. Until we see our spiritual bankruptcy apart from God,
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  S5: we're going to go right back to this stuff, aren't we, Ronnie?
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  S15: Oh, yes. No question about it. I mean, you will.
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  S15: And that's why we have to constantly lean on Jesus.
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  S15: I mean, that's really the secret. And the only way
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  S15: to live the Christian life is, is to, is to
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  S15: follow the Holy Spirit and trust the Holy Spirit in
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  S15: God's power in your life. Always standing on the Word
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  S15: of God. Because the Word of God is your greatest, greatest,
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  S15: greatest weapon of your warfare.
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  S5: Yeah. Uh, doctor Ronnie Floyd, my guest right now, we're
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  S5: going to have a link for you here in a
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  S5: moment to get more resources from this great brother. You know,
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  S5: I remember back in the day and it's he didn't
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  S5: invent it, but boy, he codified it in some ways.
• 49:04
  S5: Neil Anderson did a good work when he walked through
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  S5: steps to Freedom and helped. He even had prayers of
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  S5: renunciation for those that were broken. And we see this
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  S5: pattern with Jesus himself when he's dealing with spiritual forces
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  S5: of darkness. I mean, we are spiritual beings, Ronnie. how
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  S5: have you seen people set free? By declaring truth of
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  S5: who they are in Christ and renouncing these strongholds?
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  S15: Well, I've seen them set free, and I can say
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  S15: this personally as well. I think it just takes the
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  S15: discipline of doing this. And, you know, the problem is
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  S15: many times, Carl, our churches don't teach our people how
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  S15: to go to war with the enemy. Yeah. And when
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  S15: is the last time, you know, most, you know, most
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  S15: churches that are and people that are listening today all
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  S15: over the country of the world. When is the last
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  S15: time somebody in the pulpit has talked about spiritual warfare?
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  S15: When was the last time that they prepared them that
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  S15: this is real serious stuff. You know, the thing that
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  S15: we forget about the enemy is we, we, we, we
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  S15: act like we can tame him in our lives like
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  S15: a rattlesnake. We can't tame a rattlesnake. I don't want
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  S15: to tame a rattlesnake. I want to kill a rattlesnake. Yes.
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  S15: I mean, none of us want that. So the point is,
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  S15: is that we feel like we could cuddle up to
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  S15: our sin and God. The goal of God is not
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  S15: to teach you how to manage your sin. The goal
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  S15: of God is to teach you how to be set
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  S15: free from your sin.
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  S5: Yeah.
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  S15: And you have been you have been set free from
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  S15: that in the power of Jesus and the power of
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  S15: Jesus's name.
• 50:46
  S5: This probably doesn't surprise you, but I went all the
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  S5: way through a great Bible college. And then I went
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  S5: to a seminary that was a great seminary, and my
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  S5: bride and I were married and found ourselves in mission
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  S5: fields and in ministry, and we hit on something really quickly.
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  S5: Holy smokes. No one told us anything about this spiritual
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  S5: war that we're encountering every day. Ronnie.
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  S15: Right. Yeah, that's really true. And none of that surprises me, Carl, because,
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  S15: I mean, the same thing happened to me ultimately. I mean,
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  S15: you would have people, maybe guys that were into spiritual
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  S15: formation and teaching those kinds of things, they would be
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  S15: a little more prone to talk about that. Um, I
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  S15: don't understand many times why, why spiritual leaders, pastors, whatever
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  S15: their role is in the classroom or wherever they serve
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  S15: the Lord. Um, are they afraid to say that? I
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  S15: don't think they're afraid to say it. I just don't
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  S15: think that we're as cognizant of it. And we have
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  S15: to be aware of that. And, you know, the bottom
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  S15: line is pastors in the pulpit, just like you do
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  S15: on your show. You are continually trying to teach people
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  S15: how to walk with the Lord. Yeah. And part of
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  S15: walking with the Lord is dealing with the temptations of life.
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  S15: And if people are being swallowed up by strongholds of
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  S15: the past, we have to teach them how to get
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  S15: set free in all those things. Yeah. And I'm telling you, we,
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  S15: the Church of Jesus, our Lord. And and I say this,
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  S15: including me, we all must talk more about what it
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  S15: means to be set free. We need to be free.
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  S15: The spirit gives life. The spirit sets free. We need
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  S15: to be free people. Yeah. And, uh, that's what represents
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  S15: the Spirit of Christ.
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  S5: You know, Ronnie, let's take this temptation that came from
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  S5: the mouth of Peter, which is really interesting. And so
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  S5: Jesus was tempted in every way, but without sin. Peter
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  S5: came to him, and it was in that garden experience,
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  S5: and he's lopping off ears. And so the temptation was,
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  S5: take your authority now, set up Kingdom now. I mean,
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  S5: that was the temptation. Interestingly enough, he spoke aloud enough
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  S5: where it was written down in the Gospels. Get behind me, Satan.
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  S5: He didn't see Peter as anything but a messenger of
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  S5: a temptation in that given moment. But he spoke aloud.
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  S5: Get behind me, Ronnie. Is it important for us to
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  S5: get this off of our lips? Get behind me, Satan!
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  S5: Speaking it out. It happened in the life of Jesus.
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  S5: How much more so should it be for his children?
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  S15: Well, it's a wonderful point. I think the power of
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  S15: confession is strong. Yes, I think it is important. And,
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  S15: you know, I think we have to do that because,
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  S15: you know, confession is what it's saying the same thing.
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  S15: God says.
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  S5: Yes is agreeing with.
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  S15: Him. And and that's really what it is. And what
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  S15: did Jesus do? Jesus was always talking about what God
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  S15: had said before and what the father had said. And
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  S15: so we have to be the same way. We need
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  S15: to be able to quote the Scripture, and we have
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  S15: to we have to be able to call it out. And,
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  S15: you know, there's just something powerful about it. You know,
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  S15: it doesn't matter whether you're praying, uh, or whether you're
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  S15: praying and fasting or whether you're, uh, in a, in
• 54:36
  S15: a real battle in your life. I mean, listen, you
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  S15: have to take the word of God and, and as
• 54:42
  S15: the weapon and you have to con you, you call
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  S15: that word out because that is confession. I am saying, Lord,
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  S15: I'm standing today on this scripture and I can't make
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  S15: this if you don't do it. Please, God, I need
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  S15: you today.
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  S5: Yes.
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  S15: And, and that's what that's what it is. And you
• 55:02
  S15: know what? We all get there and we should get there.
• 55:05
  S15: And we need to be there more because we need
• 55:07
  S15: to lean on God all the time.
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  S5: Yeah. Ronnie, this is so right on. And it's as
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  S5: simple as this boom crew. It is opening your mouth
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  S5: and you know, it's funny. Ronnie, temptation comes our way
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  S5: all the time, but it's it's as simple as opening
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  S5: our mouth and emulate, follow, be an apprentice of Jesus
• 55:26
  S5: and speak out not to people, but to temptation behind
• 55:30
  S5: it or a given situation and say, the Lord rebuke you, Satan.
• 55:36
  S5: This temptation must go and God wants to do it.
• 55:41
  S5: Boom crew. I'll tell you what. We got resources from
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  S5: this good man. And by the way, one of the
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  S5: things that Ronnie does in a lot of his teaching
• 55:49
  S5: is give insights on the power of fasting. And fasting
• 55:53
  S5: is not drawing away from certain things. It's drawing away
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  S5: from certain things for the sake of in food, in particular,
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  S5: drawing near to God. So text the word fast right
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