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Chris Russo has some opinions: A potential Cup Final rematch, USA wins gold and front-office shakeups. · NHL Unscripted with Virk and Demers

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  Speaker 1: NHL Unscripted is a production of the NHL and iHeart podcasts.
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  Speaker 2: Oh Big Time Guests.
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  Speaker 1: Today hear an NHL and scriptor Christopher mad Dog Russo
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  Speaker 1: talking everything but hockey. But don't worry, we have the
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  Speaker 1: hockey covered for you as the stars and the oilers
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  Speaker 1: and the Banther just keep on roaring. Plus the USA
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  Speaker 1: winning goal for the first time in ninety two years.
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  Speaker 1: Props at TGE Thompson and Company. This is going to
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  Speaker 1: be a strong episode of NHL Unscripted. We start JD.
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  Speaker 1: I remember years ago I worked at ESPN. This guy
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  Speaker 1: said to me, I know you're Canadian, may not know
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  Speaker 1: these things. Like huh, he goes, just make sure you
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  Speaker 1: don't say happy Memorial Day.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, why is that?
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  Speaker 1: He goes, Well, and today when we memorialize the dead
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  Speaker 1: here in America, I'm like, I understand.
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  Speaker 2: He's like, go to Canadians, do I go?
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  Speaker 1: We just say happy May two for I go to
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  Speaker 1: Victoria Day weekend for us, so salute to the Queen.
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  Speaker 2: And salute all those fallen soldiers out there. Happy Memorial
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  Speaker 2: Day weekend.
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  Speaker 3: I think is okay?
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  Speaker 1: And I still to this day, I think it. John
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  Speaker 1: al rectually did a bit people. How many broadcasters gold
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  Speaker 1: and Grey? Happy Memorial Day?
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  Speaker 2: Not the right thing to say.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and and and that queen, that absolute troll's injecting
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  Speaker 4: our people to years of that anyway, right, yeah, hey
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  Speaker 4: for listen, for everyone that sacrificed himself in the United States,
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  Speaker 4: this is what this day is for. And without them,
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  Speaker 4: I don't know where the US would be here or
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  Speaker 4: most of the countries so in North America.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, and it's the unofficial start of summer for
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  Speaker 1: so many people. It's been a little bit chilly here
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  Speaker 1: on the East Coast, but today so we had awful.
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  Speaker 3: It's been bad.
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  Speaker 1: I want to start the podcast showing just what influenced
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  Speaker 1: h D has had to be.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm going to use a sentence using all of
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  Speaker 2: his expressions.
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  Speaker 1: So so far this Star's oilers, I mean, the oilers
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  Speaker 1: have been absolutely electric as they piss Pump six by
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  Speaker 1: Dallas and the Stars are absolute dog water.
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  Speaker 2: So Dallas better take us see Allison get hard? Am
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  Speaker 2: I right?
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  Speaker 3: That was wow?
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  Speaker 4: Clip that Wow? Now I know of just how dumb
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  Speaker 4: I sound all the time. I love to saying piss pumping.
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  Speaker 4: That's a piss pump man. You know, I gotta ask
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  Speaker 4: you guys too. If you know watching that game and
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  Speaker 4: you know Dallas led play for a lot of that game,
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  Speaker 4: and you know they number one, you have to go
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  Speaker 4: to Stuart Skinner. Like, Stuart Skinner has been the best
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  Speaker 4: goalie in this series, and he's the greatest goalie alive
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  Speaker 4: right now. I mean, ever since he came back from
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  Speaker 4: being polled, he's been I mean, he's been lights out.
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  Speaker 4: He's been electric. He's been piss pumping teams and turning
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  Speaker 4: them into dogwater. I just think he's been so common
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  Speaker 4: the net, and they've played so well in front of him.
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  Speaker 4: But there's just there's so many depth pieces on Edmonton
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  Speaker 4: right now that are just stepping up and they're they're
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  Speaker 4: elevating their game. You know, you look at Zach Hymans.
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  Speaker 4: Zach Hyman's got over one hundred hits in the playoffs.
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  Speaker 4: He's fifty nine in the regular season. He's got over
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  Speaker 4: one hundred in the playoffs. He's an absolute beast. He's
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  Speaker 4: killing guys at Nugent Hopkins is all this series against
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  Speaker 4: all these multipoint games. Every game, I mean, Evan Bouchard
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  Speaker 4: is is you know, rewriting history as a.
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  Speaker 2: Defensive By the way, that was a great goal.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, Evan Bouchard is behind one person points per game,
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  Speaker 4: you know, with the minimum I think it's a twenty
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  Speaker 4: games played in the playoffs, he's he's behind Bobby orr
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  Speaker 4: in the most points per game on average, wow, at
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  Speaker 4: like one point one five. So it's like all these
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  Speaker 4: guys are doing these crazy things.
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  Speaker 3: And you look at.
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  Speaker 4: Dallas to the wyat Johnston's minus sixteen worse than the playoffs.
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  Speaker 4: You look at Jason Robertson one goal in nine games.
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  Speaker 4: I don't even know if you want to call that
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  Speaker 4: a goal. That just he didn't even know he scored it.
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  Speaker 4: You look at Mason Marchman. Mason Marchman has been trying,
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  Speaker 4: he's been playing physical, but not enough. Matt Tewshane one
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  Speaker 4: goal in sixty games, not enough. You know, Tyler Second
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  Speaker 4: had that one game in game one. But it's just
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  Speaker 4: the depth is just out playing Dallas. And you know,
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  Speaker 4: then you look at the you look at the top guys,
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  Speaker 4: Miko Randons went to sleep and they lose rupe hints,
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  Speaker 4: which I think that slash is a turning point in
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  Speaker 4: that series.
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  Speaker 3: And you know, all these things all these things.
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  Speaker 4: Kind of lead to you ask the question why, and
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  Speaker 4: then you know, why, why are these guys playing with
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  Speaker 4: so much confidence? And it just isn't doesn't seem like
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  Speaker 4: it's falling the right way for Dallas, and they're getting
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  Speaker 4: opportunities and they're out shooting. Skinner looks amazing, he looks
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  Speaker 4: comfortable and net you know, and I look to like
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  Speaker 4: Game one of Lean Bischel turtling at the end of
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  Speaker 4: that game on Corey Perry and I say, there's moments
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  Speaker 4: of intimidation in a playoff series. And as you're going
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  Speaker 4: through the playoffs, and if you can intimidate a team,
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  Speaker 4: you know, not every guy is going to be intimidated,
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  Speaker 4: they're going to play, but there's some guys that'll wilt.
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  Speaker 4: And you know, I was just texting with Brian Boyle
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  Speaker 4: and I was like, you know, I look at like
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  Speaker 4: the you know, we'll get to the Florida series, but
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  Speaker 4: I look at the Florida series as well, like they're
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  Speaker 4: just bullying Carolina. And now not to say that Carolina
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  Speaker 4: is not getting opportunities and not playing. You know, they're pushing,
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  Speaker 4: but there's just something missing. And it's the same thing
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  Speaker 4: in this Dallas series right now. Now, I still think
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  Speaker 4: it's going to be a long series, but they need
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  Speaker 4: to get that respect back. And I think Edmonton is
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  Speaker 4: zero respect for Dallas and they're not scared of him
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  Speaker 4: at all. And it all starts in that game one.
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  Speaker 4: When you win that game leem Bischell's turtling to Corey
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  Speaker 4: parrots that are getting up. He's six seven, two hundred
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  Speaker 4: and ninety pounds. However, he is big old Swiss boy.
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  Speaker 4: He's just got a great at least fight if you lose.
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  Speaker 4: You know, and I say this Thermo space of I
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  Speaker 4: was in the toughest guy I fought. I got my
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  Speaker 4: ass kicked a lot, but you know, every guy I
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  Speaker 4: fought was like a borderline heavyweight. And I just said,
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  Speaker 4: you know what, I'm gonna lose, but I'm not going
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  Speaker 4: to back down, because that's the biggest thing. You back
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  Speaker 4: down and then you give them the mental edge. And
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  Speaker 4: that's what I think Edmonton has right now. They have
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  Speaker 4: the mental edge, and they're just the last two games,
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  Speaker 4: even though they get out played at times, they're just
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  Speaker 4: in it more mentally, if that makes sense.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you had this sweet the other day, which makes
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  Speaker 2: a lot of sense.
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  Speaker 1: Now why Johnson and Jason Robertson will decide the Dallas
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  Speaker 1: Stars make the files of a chance in Stanley Cup.
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  Speaker 2: It's in. There's somewhere. They just need to find it
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  Speaker 2: and fast.
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  Speaker 1: And to your point, they haven't, so I know people
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  Speaker 1: don't want to single guys out. Jimmy Ben you could
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  Speaker 1: throw in there as well. One goal in sixty games.
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  Speaker 1: I mean it's it's been a deplorable effort all around,
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  Speaker 1: and clearly they're not gonna win the series.
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  Speaker 2: They will turn around.
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  Speaker 4: Well, their fourth line has been was their best line
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  Speaker 4: last game. Colin Blackwell and Sam Steele been been fantastic
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  Speaker 4: and then it was owen Bach. But I mean, those
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  Speaker 4: two guys have been their two best players. But if
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  Speaker 4: you look at him, their dogs on a ball. They're
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  Speaker 4: just hunted pucks. And and maybe it's just that Edmonton's
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  Speaker 4: that much better, and it's we're gonna see an Edmonton
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  Speaker 4: Florida rematch once again, and Edmonton's just deeper.
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  Speaker 1: Ch your point with the Florida Panthers, they just keep
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  Speaker 1: on roaring. Hurricanes head coach Rob Brindamore mixes things up.
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  Speaker 1: Let's go with coach chet Cooff over Freddie Anderson, who
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  Speaker 1: you had pointed out Frediy Anderson has been one of
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  Speaker 1: the great stories of this playoffs so far.
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  Speaker 2: But instead let's give him a hook, see what happens.
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  Speaker 1: And instead it was close after forty and then the
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  Speaker 1: Panthers explode five unanswered goals.
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  Speaker 2: They're now three.
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  Speaker 1: All the series is a wrap, Sam Ryder out of
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  Speaker 1: the lineup didn't matter again, you just mentioned the depth
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  Speaker 1: of the depth of Florida. Five goals or first nine
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  Speaker 1: shots the third bark off the captain two goals and
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  Speaker 1: assist plus four rating. Callen has now lost fifteen straight
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  Speaker 1: conference final games. As you said on NHL Tonight, I'm
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  Speaker 1: running out of answers because that's a rock Brindmore sad
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  Speaker 1: as well.
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  Speaker 2: They get no idea how to fix this for Carolina.
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  Speaker 2: Just an absolute mess.
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  Speaker 3: Bullied once again.
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  Speaker 4: You know we turnovers won, but you know you look
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  Speaker 4: at these moments in this series and they're bullied because
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  Speaker 4: all these turnovers are because the d are number one.
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  Speaker 4: They're making soft plays in the middle, but everything seems rushed.
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  Speaker 4: They're always like they're kind of wincing because you're getting
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  Speaker 4: hit after the whistle. There's always a cross check, there's
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  Speaker 4: always somebody in your face, and it wears on you
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  Speaker 4: if you don't push back, and you just allow that
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  Speaker 4: and you take that abuse, you take that abuse, You
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  Speaker 4: take that abuse mentally. It's not only gonna mess with
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  Speaker 4: you and your game, it's gonna mess with the fabric
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  Speaker 4: of the team. And you look at these guys and
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  Speaker 4: you know not to not to, you know, shit on anybody.
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  Speaker 4: But it's like Sebastianajo hits Sam reinhard in that game,
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  Speaker 4: knocks them out. Yes, it's a borderline dirty hit. I
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  Speaker 4: don't love it. Florida is waiting for that, They're using
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  Speaker 4: that as bolton board material. They're going in there, and
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  Speaker 4: it's like Carolina is like waiting all game for the response.
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  Speaker 4: They're like, they're probably gonna come and they're probably gonna
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  Speaker 4: start hitting us because of this hit, and they're gonna
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  Speaker 4: be mad. And of course, what do you think happens
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  Speaker 4: as soon as Florida gets a lead. Matthew Chuck as
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  Speaker 4: a captain, should goes after a hoo chase himround the ice.
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  Speaker 4: And the biggest issue when I knew this series was
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  Speaker 4: a rap is not one person winning defended Sebastianaho, not one,
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  Speaker 4: not a one went in there. You're down four to
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  Speaker 4: one in the series, going two hand him in the wrist,
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  Speaker 4: break his wrists.
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  Speaker 3: Not this.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not advocating for injuries. Yep, do your thing, but like,
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  Speaker 4: go protect your own. He's assaulting your teammate. Go back
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  Speaker 4: and fight about.
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  Speaker 1: By the way, Chuck and the penalty box be like, hey,
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  Speaker 1: I remember, like exactly exactly.
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  Speaker 4: And then and then Sam Bennett goes and krass check Spechnikov.
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  Speaker 4: That's another one of your top players. You're not showing
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  Speaker 4: any respect again. You're not getting any respect from Florida.
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  Speaker 4: You gotta go get it. I don't care. You're down
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  Speaker 4: three nothing, you're down whatever, whatever what five to one,
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  Speaker 4: six one, and they're still trying to Carolina's trying to
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  Speaker 4: score and Florida's trying to hit him. At six to one,
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  Speaker 4: I'm like, you're down three nother You're not gonna come
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  Speaker 4: back with two minutes left. You're not gonna score five goals.
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  Speaker 3: I don't care.
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  Speaker 4: You can't sell Bobrovsky. Go run Bobrovsky. Make it a Donnybrook,
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  Speaker 4: make it make it a full on five on five
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  Speaker 4: bench clearing brawl. Come on, have a little heart, like Jesus,
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  Speaker 4: like get pissed off, Like it's the same thing I
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  Speaker 4: have with with like and I love Austin Matthews, but
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  Speaker 4: I'm like, where is your breaking point?
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  Speaker 3: I just want to know a breaking point?
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  Speaker 2: I love.
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  Speaker 4: I don't love seeing you know, dirty, when somebody's like premeditated,
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  Speaker 4: it's a dirty play. But if you have a little
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  Speaker 4: bit of like frustration and it boils over and you snap,
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  Speaker 4: like I like to see that from a player, show
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  Speaker 4: me like that you can lose it like a little
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  Speaker 4: bit that like you've had enough, Like I've had enough.
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  Speaker 4: You guys have lost sixteen straight. Not to say that
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  Speaker 4: the same team has been part of that, but somebody
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  Speaker 4: has to get up in the room and say, like,
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  Speaker 4: there's no puck on the ice anymore, there's no puck.
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  Speaker 4: We're gonna get respect back if they beat us up
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  Speaker 4: once again. If they beat us up, you're not tough. Hey,
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  Speaker 4: it's fine, but at least you're going into the fight.
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  Speaker 4: You're going into the fight, and I know that I
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  Speaker 4: can trust you when I'm sitting next to you. If
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  Speaker 4: I know you're gonna wilt under pressure, I mean, what's
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  Speaker 4: what's the point?
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  Speaker 3: Just let him win?
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  Speaker 4: The four Game four, fit game four, and let's get
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  Speaker 4: out of here because no one wants to see more
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  Speaker 4: of this goddamn series. It's just Enough's enough. Go back
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  Speaker 4: to the one eight please, yeah right, I'm sick of it.
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  Speaker 4: This would have been a first round matchup. If this
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  Speaker 4: went to one eight, this would have been a first
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  Speaker 4: round matchup.
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  Speaker 1: And your point about playing a little bully ball in
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  Speaker 1: honor of Bob Bender, It's like, if you're gonna lose
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  Speaker 1: the battlet least win the war, right. I know he
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  Speaker 1: doesn't play bullyball. I'm just like, if they were to
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  Speaker 1: all right, I want to get to the leafs.
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  Speaker 3: This is great.
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  Speaker 2: The Shannon play is finally done. Eleven years as the president.
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  Speaker 1: Keith Pelly, who's now the MLSC president, Cool Boston TSM
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  Speaker 1: back when I was a young pup said I'm not
• 10:53
  Speaker 1: looking to replace Brendan. I'm looking at we're closer with
• 10:55
  Speaker 1: Brad that Cmtree living, and we're close with Craig coach Barubi.
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  Speaker 1: So it's it's Tree and Chief now running the show
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  Speaker 1: and sh had ahnd Gun. And by the way, what
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  Speaker 1: I wanted to really hit on with you specifically is
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  Speaker 1: your tweet again when Pelly said that he really liked
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  Speaker 1: the effort from the fans in the first round, and
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  Speaker 1: your response was, you're welcome to the NHL and to
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  Speaker 1: the Leaf specifically because they, as you pointed out, the
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  Speaker 1: lower bowl is an absolute moratorium. And then now this
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  Speaker 1: exact quote is the Leaf's upper manage will spend in
• 11:23
  Speaker 1: the off season studying and looking at ways to improve
• 11:26
  Speaker 1: their homeless advantage by getting fans more engaged.
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  Speaker 4: We did it first, We did it. That's how you
• 11:32
  Speaker 4: enact change. You push, you push, and I'm gonna take
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  Speaker 4: full credit, not to say that anybody else was saying,
• 11:39
  Speaker 4: I'm taking full credit for the Leafs. Finally, and I
• 11:42
  Speaker 4: listened to that press conference at the night, I think
• 11:44
  Speaker 4: I was on NHL now, and I'm just like, yes, yes,
• 11:48
  Speaker 4: the emphatic add nan, yes, yes, I did it, because
• 11:51
  Speaker 4: he's like he's like, yeah, there's been some complaints about
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  Speaker 4: the lower ball. It's like, yeah, the sure has. Goddamn Church, it.
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  Speaker 1: Would have been unbelievable, shouted you out, just so, like
• 12:01
  Speaker 1: I know that certain people in media made commence on
• 12:03
  Speaker 1: Jason to Mercer's critical you be come God, can you.
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  Speaker 4: Imagine he's like Jason ms we really respect his opinion.
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  Speaker 3: You know, speaking of the Leafs.
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  Speaker 4: You know, when you look at the way this this
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  Speaker 4: series is unfolded, are they that far from winning a cup?
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  Speaker 4: When you look at Carolina? Is the Metropolitan Division the
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  Speaker 4: worst division hockey?
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  Speaker 3: Is my question?
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  Speaker 2: This is where it's tricky because there was talent.
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  Speaker 4: I'm gonna bring you into this one too. Is Metropolitan
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  Speaker 4: the worst division hockey?
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  Speaker 3: Well? I want your opinion.
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  Speaker 2: My first it was gonna be in the leaguest how
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  Speaker 2: far away there?
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  Speaker 1: Because the one thought was, well, they took the Panthers
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  Speaker 1: to seven of the defending cup champions. My thought was, no,
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  Speaker 1: you got piss pumped in both games at home. You're
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  Speaker 1: farther away from the Stanley Cup final than you realize.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, don't think they're close.
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  Speaker 5: Go ahead, tell the Metro Sexual Division as I like
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  Speaker 5: to call it, No, it's uh, it's I mean, it's
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  Speaker 5: super weak. I think listen, you look at the division.
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  Speaker 5: Who are the top three? Who are the top three
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  Speaker 5: teams in the division? Rangers, Devils, Well that's yeah, the
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  Speaker 5: bottom is brutal, and then even the top what Caps, Hurricanes,
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  Speaker 5: Devils were the top three front and those are the
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  Speaker 5: teams and now we look back on how the playoffs
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  Speaker 5: have played out, and they kind of.
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  Speaker 2: Have gone away with a whimper.
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  Speaker 5: Really, So yeah, I think that at one point maybe
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  Speaker 5: you could make the case that the Pacific was the weakest,
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  Speaker 5: even though obviously the teams at the top of the
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  Speaker 5: division were among the elites in the league. But yeah,
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  Speaker 5: this this, you know, I think I wouldn't be surprised
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  Speaker 5: like this, if the if the if it kind of
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  Speaker 5: flipped a little bit next season and you saw, you know,
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  Speaker 5: the Rangers and the Blue Jackets kind of well they
• 13:37
  Speaker 5: were technically in the middle of the division, but I
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  Speaker 5: could see things kind of moving around next in the
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  Speaker 5: standings in the Metro just because it's it's not very stable,
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  Speaker 5: it's not very strong in that division.
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  Speaker 4: Well, i mean you look at like, what do you
• 13:49
  Speaker 4: feel if you're Washington, you just got beaten five and
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  Speaker 4: it's getting dog walked, so your way, you're you're really
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  Speaker 4: far you know, And then you look like if I'm
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  Speaker 4: the Montreal Canadians, I'm like, man, we're not that far off,
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  Speaker 4: Like honestly, like we're you know, we could easily made
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  Speaker 4: that a seven game series against Washington. So I'm just
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  Speaker 4: like looking around and it's it's gonna be interesting what
• 14:12
  Speaker 4: certain teams like if I'm it's a copycat league. But
• 14:15
  Speaker 4: if you're looking around and you're watching out jams, watching
• 14:17
  Speaker 4: the playoffs, and they're like, eh, but I think the
• 14:19
  Speaker 4: biggest mistake Toronto could make to your point, is being like,
• 14:22
  Speaker 4: let's run it back one more time. I think we
• 14:24
  Speaker 4: could do it. I think we could do it this time. Well,
• 14:26
  Speaker 4: I think the Car four I could do it. Yeah,
• 14:28
  Speaker 4: Marner's gone, he's ninety nine Friedman just I think tweeted
• 14:32
  Speaker 4: he's ninety nine percent gone. Do you think Tavares is gone?
• 14:36
  Speaker 2: Because here's my thought, were goee, he loves playing it.
• 14:37
  Speaker 1: Sol'm like, no, I got that. But this whole hometown
• 14:39
  Speaker 1: discount thing. Then Stamcoast gets four years thirty two million,
• 14:42
  Speaker 1: Like okay, I'm gonna go to Nashville like I love
• 14:43
  Speaker 1: the lighting, but whatever. So I'm like, don't don't just
• 14:46
  Speaker 1: count on Johnny TV Like yeah, I'll take four for
• 14:48
  Speaker 1: five in a year. I'm like, no, I really want
• 14:49
  Speaker 1: good year. I'm gonna get my money and I'd like
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: to stay in Toronto.
• 14:52
  Speaker 4: Well here's the thing that I if I'm if I'm
• 14:55
  Speaker 4: tree living I sit down John Taveres, and I said,
• 14:57
  Speaker 4: and I show him the picture of him with his
• 14:59
  Speaker 4: Toronto Mayple leafs bet when he was ten years old
• 15:01
  Speaker 4: or whatever that he tweeted about, And I said.
• 15:03
  Speaker 3: This is your favorite team? Yeah, just your favorite team?
• 15:06
  Speaker 3: Did you they team? They just to run on me
• 15:09
  Speaker 3: his team.
• 15:09
  Speaker 4: Well, you're gonna take You're gonna take four million, and
• 15:12
  Speaker 4: you're gonna shut the hell up and show it saying
• 15:14
  Speaker 4: this is really six this is really your favorite team. No,
• 15:17
  Speaker 4: but this is the decision for John Taveries. You made
• 15:20
  Speaker 4: enough in your career. You made enough.
• 15:22
  Speaker 3: Now you go. We need to win.
• 15:25
  Speaker 4: So you either want to win and be a Toronto
• 15:27
  Speaker 4: Maple and that's just that's just moneyball. That's what you
• 15:30
  Speaker 4: gotta do. And if you don't, well you can go
• 15:33
  Speaker 4: your own way.
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: There you go. Tell.
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: My hunch is Marner's gone. T VARs has gone too.
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: I think only two of the four come back. I
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: don't like Johnny t takes that much of a cute.
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure Marner's gone.
• 15:43
  Speaker 5: He's gonna get monster offers from at least half a
• 15:46
  Speaker 5: dozen teams in the league.
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: He's gonna go and win seven years one hundred million dollars.
• 15:50
  Speaker 3: He's gonna go and win.
• 15:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he's he's going to La or Vegas, or he's
• 15:54
  Speaker 4: gonna go somewhere.
• 15:55
  Speaker 5: Yeah, hang out with Biber in La or Vegas. Sounds
• 15:58
  Speaker 5: like a good times.
• 16:00
  Speaker 3: She goes to Florida. Oh my god, that's not fair. Hey,
• 16:03
  Speaker 3: that's just not fair.
• 16:04
  Speaker 5: I mean as far as Tavares, you know, I just
• 16:07
  Speaker 5: first they take the sea away from him, and now
• 16:09
  Speaker 5: they're going to try and low ball them on At
• 16:11
  Speaker 5: one point, does this guy just say, you know what,
• 16:13
  Speaker 5: I love playing in Toronto.
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: This is very important to me. My family likes here.
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: But enough is enough and.
• 16:18
  Speaker 5: He could be good on He could be a really
• 16:21
  Speaker 5: good player on some really good teams.
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: He could go to the Panthers, wh I couldn't John Tomorrow.
• 16:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he's a good he's a good third line center.
• 16:27
  Speaker 4: I think now, like really solid. I just don't think
• 16:29
  Speaker 4: you're gonna bring him in to be a two C so,
• 16:32
  Speaker 4: you know, don't pay him two C money. I just
• 16:34
  Speaker 4: think on a really good team like yeah, on An,
• 16:37
  Speaker 4: I could see like a Utah. Maybe they're looking for
• 16:40
  Speaker 4: a centerman that I don't know where they're gonna have
• 16:42
  Speaker 4: to overpay somebody. And I know there's been links of
• 16:45
  Speaker 4: like Bennett and Marner going there as well. I heard
• 16:47
  Speaker 4: they're gonna offer They're going to offer a lot of
• 16:51
  Speaker 4: money to those two guys.
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: That'd be incredible.
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: He goes from the leaves to the mammoth like, wow, guy,
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: chase that money.
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: One more thought. We're here. The Islanders make a big
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: move at the top.
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: Pull NHL player McGill University grad Matthew darks my brother,
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: so kill McGill.
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: That's just for him.
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: Matthew darts with the team's GM and executive A vice
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: president Jarsh Most recently, Sure was director of Hockey Operation
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: of the Tampa Bay Lightning since twenty nineteen. While at McGill.
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: I love this nugget from tell he won the Doctor
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: Randy Greg Award, the top student athlete in the country.
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: I love that smart guy part of cup when the
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: organization played for the Habs against coach Patrick Waugh.
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: By the way, Tallas also McGill. Guy kill McGill times two.
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: Go to mcgil baby.
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: One thing of Americans they always know mcguil. They're like, oh,
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: where you go to school, Miguel, Like, how do you
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: know that? Yes, that's the one school Americans stomach.
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: Well.
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: McGill is an outstanding institution. No, I did not thoughts
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: on Matthew Darts and the isles.
• 17:42
  Speaker 4: Listen, I think it's time will tell you everything I've
• 17:45
  Speaker 4: heard and you know talking we talked to like we
• 17:47
  Speaker 4: broke the story with Pagnonta, and I think he's a
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: very intelligent guy and understands the game. And again, another
• 17:54
  Speaker 4: Tampa Bay Lightning product. These guys are just a feeder
• 17:57
  Speaker 4: system for for her gms and coaching roles. You look
• 18:01
  Speaker 4: at Jeff Blaschell going to Chicago, I mean another Tampa
• 18:04
  Speaker 4: Bay Lightning guys. You just need to go work under
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: John Cooper at Breezebaw and you you have an opportunity somewhere.
• 18:09
  Speaker 4: So I think it's I think it's good. I think listen,
• 18:13
  Speaker 4: you get the first pick, you have a lot of
• 18:16
  Speaker 4: you know, this is like you're not coming in. He
• 18:18
  Speaker 4: doesn't get to weigh himself into this, Like you're you
• 18:21
  Speaker 4: got to make a you know, franchise altering decision in
• 18:25
  Speaker 4: the next month, and then you have to decide which
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: direction you want to go. And I think they're going
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: to retool. I don't think it's going to be a
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: full rebuild. I think with this pick you can really
• 18:35
  Speaker 4: do some damage, whether you trade down and you can
• 18:38
  Speaker 4: maybe trade down a little bit and pick up Hagen's
• 18:41
  Speaker 4: or you can grab Schaeffer or Misa in the top position.
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: So but I think there's a lot to do.
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: There's a lot of word they have a lot of
• 18:47
  Speaker 4: shitty contracts, so we got to see what they can't
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: move around. But you know, my the most interesting I'm
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: gonna see is what he does with the Patrick Wahan
• 18:56
  Speaker 4: and and what he.
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: Make the GM.
• 18:59
  Speaker 4: That's whatever the thought was. But I feel like teams
• 19:02
  Speaker 4: are You're starting to see teams, you know, Pagnon was
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: talking about teams going away from the president role. You know,
• 19:07
  Speaker 4: like the GM can handle it all, and they're looking
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: for season guys. So I don't know if Patty Wows
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: really be the guy that would put up in that position.
• 19:15
  Speaker 4: I just want to see how he what he does
• 19:18
  Speaker 4: with the you know, bringing in any more assistance or
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: it's just going to be an interesting It's going to
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: be very interesting to see what he does. But it's
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: you know, nonetheless, it is a monumental month and a
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: half that he's gonna have to go through.
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: He's going to age.
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: He's going to age twenty years in the next month.
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: Because Islanders fans are they're sick and tired. Yeah, they
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: need something, and you get that first pick. You gotta
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: do something with it. You gotta do something big with it.
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: You can't, you can't fumble the bag. As the young
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: kids say.
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: You're right, optimism right now high what you could do
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: with a number one pick? We come back one guy
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: who's always raring to go. That's right, Christopher mad Doc
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: Russell the Holloway his thoughts not only on the Four
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: Nations months later, are still upset about the premeditated fight.
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: You can Yeah, it was a tough take, another tough take.
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: I had to leave after d left.
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: He was still offended by the take, but that means
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: bad Dog and I were still talking. Nick's talking Mets
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: and Juan Soto talking movies and how much he loves
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: a complete unknown and his obsession with timoth Tay Shallowy,
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: and Bob Dylan.
• 20:14
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• 20:47
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• 20:52
  Speaker 2: It's great to see you again, my man.
• 20:54
  Speaker 6: How are there guys? Good to be on. Oh, it
• 20:56
  Speaker 6: is a pleasure. How are we doing? Okay?
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: Thanks good, We're doing great, Chris, thank you so much
• 21:01
  Speaker 4: for coming on. But before I go, I gotta ask
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: one question here. Yes, during the Four Nations you came
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: after US Canadians fighting, and the US Canada rivalry had
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: some poignant things to say, and I was just saying.
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: I just wanted to say, why are you coming for my.
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: Sport like that?
• 21:17
  Speaker 6: Why are you coming for my sport like that? Now
• 21:20
  Speaker 6: that was in February, Maybe I would have changed my
• 21:22
  Speaker 6: approach if I knew about those tariffs at the time. Hey,
• 21:26
  Speaker 6: we needed February on February twentieth whenever that was. I didn't.
• 21:31
  Speaker 6: I thought that fight early was was was too much programmed.
• 21:35
  Speaker 6: It was not organic. So that's what bothered me about that.
• 21:38
  Speaker 6: It's almost like they decided after nine seconds have a
• 21:41
  Speaker 6: fight really Game one. But I did root for Canada,
• 21:45
  Speaker 6: so I was happy that McDavid scored in the in
• 21:48
  Speaker 6: the last game of that series. And everybody made such
• 21:50
  Speaker 6: a big deal about the US winning Game one, as
• 21:53
  Speaker 6: it turns out and meant nothing because in the game
• 21:55
  Speaker 6: that they had to win, they didn't in Boston on Thursday.
• 21:58
  Speaker 6: But that was a very very very successful tournament. We
• 22:01
  Speaker 6: all know how great that was. You know, you got
• 22:04
  Speaker 6: to have it in the non Olympic years, and good
• 22:07
  Speaker 6: for Canada. So from that standpoint, I'm okay with it.
• 22:10
  Speaker 7: But I I did think, to be fair, Jay, I
• 22:13
  Speaker 7: did think it was a little fake the fights before
• 22:17
  Speaker 7: the first game out in Montreal I work with.
• 22:20
  Speaker 4: I worked with Stu Grimson, one of the toughest guys
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: in HL history, and I once I once mentioned to
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: him the pre determined fights and he grabbed me almost
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: on air and threw me, threw me over the table.
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: But my follow up to that is, you got to
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: think that this Hockey Playoffs is a little bit better
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: than the NBA Playoffs, no little bit.
• 22:42
  Speaker 6: What you don't like about the Hockey Playoffs right now
• 22:44
  Speaker 6: is the Florida Carolina series is a rough series. Uh,
• 22:47
  Speaker 6: I know, that's a herd. It's it's a it's that's
• 22:50
  Speaker 6: that's a hard series. They played very much alike and
• 22:53
  Speaker 6: they're not renowned teams. I think he needed the Leafs
• 22:56
  Speaker 6: and the Leafs in there in the absolute worst way.
• 22:59
  Speaker 6: I've always said that the hockey playoffs, earl are so
• 23:02
  Speaker 6: good because anybody he could win. The hot goalies, like
• 23:06
  Speaker 6: the hot pitcher in baseball, always have some upsets. I mean,
• 23:10
  Speaker 6: it's very very good early and those opening rounds with
• 23:13
  Speaker 6: tremendous Winnipeg Saint Louis the seventh game on top of
• 23:16
  Speaker 6: what we saw with Dallas and Colorado win a seventh game.
• 23:19
  Speaker 6: Although the seating idea is stupid. Why Colorado when Dallas
• 23:23
  Speaker 6: playing the first round every year? Kings and Edmonton is
• 23:27
  Speaker 6: beyond dumb. One to eight both ways with the Seeds.
• 23:31
  Speaker 6: But regardless, the hockey usually is wonderful early and maybe
• 23:35
  Speaker 6: not quite as good as we go on go on,
• 23:39
  Speaker 6: because you might have a matchup or two that you
• 23:41
  Speaker 6: don't love. Appy post with this Florida Tampa thing, with
• 23:45
  Speaker 6: this Florida Carolina thing. While in the NBA, the four
• 23:47
  Speaker 6: best teams usually advance the NBA. You know, Oklahoma City
• 23:51
  Speaker 6: is the best team in the West, they advance. Obviously,
• 23:54
  Speaker 6: Minnesota has been very good. Last year conference final, they advance.
• 23:58
  Speaker 6: You know, the Knicks Corta Celtic team a little bit leaguered,
• 24:01
  Speaker 6: but we all knew the Knicks were good. We all
• 24:03
  Speaker 6: knew Indiana was good. You're gonna get always four good
• 24:06
  Speaker 6: teams at the end of the day in the NBA,
• 24:09
  Speaker 6: because the better team always wins in the NBA. In
• 24:11
  Speaker 6: the NHL, the better team doesn't always advance. Hot goalie,
• 24:15
  Speaker 6: bounce to the puck, whatever it might be. So you
• 24:18
  Speaker 6: might have a match up there at the end that's
• 24:20
  Speaker 6: not that attractive. Carolina Edmonton for a Stanley Cup final.
• 24:24
  Speaker 6: And in the NBA, you're gonna get Lakers, Celtics, you're
• 24:27
  Speaker 6: gonna get the Sixers, Celtics in a semi final, you're
• 24:30
  Speaker 6: gonna get Golden State, Cleveland, Lebron against the better players.
• 24:33
  Speaker 6: Use the advance not always the case in the NHL.
• 24:36
  Speaker 6: So I don't love the Florida Carolina series. The Edmonton
• 24:38
  Speaker 6: Dalla series should be very very good, one hundred percent.
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: All right, g D, He's gonna bounce we'll take over.
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: Since you mentioned the Knicks, I mean, this has been
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: an unbelievable story, Doggie right now, what the Knicks are
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: doing and Brunts is obviously carrying this team.
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: Hopefully they can get it done against the Pacers. We'll see.
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: And you really have captured the imagination of all these
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: New Yorkers right now because what the Knicks are doing.
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: But you were around in ninety four, of course you
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: might talk with the Rangers.
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: Can you draw any parallels with the Knicks now the
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: Rangers back then and tell me what that experience was
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: like when the Rangers finally won the Cup on broad Well.
• 25:05
  Speaker 6: I think the Knicks are a bigger story now than
• 25:07
  Speaker 6: they were then because the Knicks and ninety four were
• 25:09
  Speaker 6: overwhelmed by the Rangers. The Rangers hadn't won in fifty
• 25:13
  Speaker 6: four years, Messia the comeback against the Devils, they won
• 25:18
  Speaker 6: the President's Trophies, so they had a lot of pressure
• 25:21
  Speaker 6: on them and they were the NHL favorites when that
• 25:23
  Speaker 6: postseason began. You know, they beat Washington and the Islanders.
• 25:27
  Speaker 6: I think they beat the Islanders first. They beat the
• 25:29
  Speaker 6: Andanders and they beat Washington. They were eight and one
• 25:32
  Speaker 6: against those two teams. So the Rangers were the bigger
• 25:35
  Speaker 6: New York story at the time. I'm not trying to
• 25:38
  Speaker 6: downplay the Knicks, but it wasn't quite the same place
• 25:41
  Speaker 6: Jordan had quit, So it was a situation where you know,
• 25:44
  Speaker 6: you weren't going through Jordan to win a championship because
• 25:46
  Speaker 6: that was the ninety four was the year, that first
• 25:49
  Speaker 6: year he tried to baseball. So in ninety three ninety
• 25:52
  Speaker 6: four it was about the Rangers more than it was
• 25:54
  Speaker 6: about the Knicks. I'm not saying the Knicks did not
• 25:56
  Speaker 6: have their issues and it was not fun with the Knicks.
• 25:59
  Speaker 6: We covered both, but it was more Rangers. This year,
• 26:02
  Speaker 6: obviously it's all Nicks because it's a surprise. They haven't
• 26:06
  Speaker 6: been nobody foot. They beat the Celtics, they haven't been
• 26:09
  Speaker 6: in an NBA Conference final in twenty five years, and
• 26:13
  Speaker 6: it's a situation where you know people are really into it.
• 26:16
  Speaker 6: Bruntson's fun, big crowds at the garden. So and they
• 26:19
  Speaker 6: beat Boston, which is a big factor. So this year
• 26:23
  Speaker 6: it's much more about in New York. The Knicks. No
• 26:26
  Speaker 6: Rangers in the playoffs, which obviously plays into it, but
• 26:29
  Speaker 6: it's even if they were in it's about the Knicks.
• 26:32
  Speaker 6: Ninety three, ninety four, it was really much more about
• 26:36
  Speaker 6: the Rangers, and the Rangers paid it off by winning
• 26:38
  Speaker 6: the Stanley Cup. Knicks of course, News Game seven Houston.
• 26:41
  Speaker 6: So this is much more of a Knick situation Nick
• 26:44
  Speaker 6: story in New York right now than it is a
• 26:46
  Speaker 6: Rangers story. I think the Nick fans all out of
• 26:48
  Speaker 6: a little too carried away, you know, steat of Brenning here,
• 26:51
  Speaker 6: you know, after win eight games. I mean they're only
• 26:53
  Speaker 6: halfway through. You got eight more wins to get. So
• 26:56
  Speaker 6: I think the Knick fan is a little carried away
• 27:00
  Speaker 6: right now with their enthusiasm. I know they haven't been
• 27:04
  Speaker 6: in this step in a long time, but they still
• 27:06
  Speaker 6: got two steps to go. And I don't know why
• 27:08
  Speaker 6: you're doing handstands before they got to a even an
• 27:11
  Speaker 6: NBA final. But the Nixt are the bigger story, Adnan,
• 27:14
  Speaker 6: right now. The next are the much bigger story in
• 27:15
  Speaker 6: New York, no question about it.
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: All Right, Let's talk movies, my friend, you and I
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: both love movies, and I know you love to complete
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: unkown the Bob Dylan biopick. Timothy Shallowy did a phenomenal job.
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: I just watched the sixty minute story in him, he
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: seems like a great.
• 27:26
  Speaker 6: Can everyone's really very good.
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: He's at those Knicks games.
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: By the way, now, I'm not gonna quibble about the way,
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: which I know you were so passionate about.
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: I love to know where the brutalist of substance.
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: The better question is this, as my friend Dan LeBatard
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: said to you, when you used your fame and fortune
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: to go be at the premiere for a complete and numiverseas,
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: how much of it did you think in yourself? Bob Dylan,
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: famous recluse who despised ananimity and fame seeking, how displeased
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: would he be with Matt Dog Russo for you using
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: your fame to go beat Shaloman.
• 27:53
  Speaker 6: Yeah, it's a good question. I don't know how Dylan
• 27:55
  Speaker 6: would have handled that. You're right, how do think Bob
• 27:57
  Speaker 6: Dinnan's bouncing around and thinking of Chris Russo? Although Bob
• 28:00
  Speaker 6: Dylan used to go to Celtic Nick games at the Garden,
• 28:02
  Speaker 6: did you know that in the media and he quietly
• 28:06
  Speaker 6: in a front row, he'd scream about hibbing because him
• 28:09
  Speaker 6: and Michale from the same town. So from that perspective,
• 28:12
  Speaker 6: I thought that I mean that surprised me that he
• 28:14
  Speaker 6: would do that, but he went to go see I
• 28:16
  Speaker 6: don't know if it was every time the Celtics came in,
• 28:18
  Speaker 6: but there was a lot of Dylan sightings at the
• 28:20
  Speaker 6: garden because of Hbbing. You know, the Chala May thing.
• 28:24
  Speaker 6: That was really kind of very organic. That's why people
• 28:26
  Speaker 6: got into it because I'd been screaming about complete unknown
• 28:29
  Speaker 6: since essentially last summer when I knew the movie was
• 28:32
  Speaker 6: going to be released on Christmas Day, and then they
• 28:35
  Speaker 6: didn't have the decency to invite me to the premiere,
• 28:40
  Speaker 6: which annoyed me, and I used that as they mad about,
• 28:43
  Speaker 6: which was perfect. And then Charlamey got on top of it.
• 28:46
  Speaker 6: So from that standpoint, that is the that was the
• 28:49
  Speaker 6: organic aspect of it. Give Challa May ret it. He
• 28:52
  Speaker 6: did a great job. When we visited him in London,
• 28:54
  Speaker 6: we had about ten minutes with him, my daughter and I.
• 28:57
  Speaker 6: That was the fourth time I had seen the movie.
• 28:59
  Speaker 6: Crowd loved it at the National Theater there in London.
• 29:02
  Speaker 6: They gave me a choice to go on a three
• 29:03
  Speaker 6: spot Paris and Rome or London. I took the first
• 29:07
  Speaker 6: one London. They did a Q and a early on
• 29:11
  Speaker 6: the set of the before the movie was shown. I
• 29:14
  Speaker 6: thought Edmund Norton did a terrible job, by the way.
• 29:16
  Speaker 6: I mean, oh, I did a terrible jo I said
• 29:19
  Speaker 6: that on the air. I mean, he just was so disengaged, Eddie,
• 29:23
  Speaker 6: come on, give give the interviewer a little something for
• 29:27
  Speaker 6: Christ's sake. He was terrible, terrible on the stage. I
• 29:31
  Speaker 6: was really down on him for that, but I mean
• 29:33
  Speaker 6: about him on his I you know, fourth time, I
• 29:35
  Speaker 6: wish I was the first time I had seen it,
• 29:36
  Speaker 6: not the fourth time I had seen it. But I
• 29:38
  Speaker 6: didn't know. If I knew that that was going to
• 29:40
  Speaker 6: be theirs, I was going to be invited to that
• 29:42
  Speaker 6: back on Christmas, I wouldn't have even seen it until
• 29:45
  Speaker 6: Chris until January fourteenth. But you know, Dylan would have
• 29:49
  Speaker 6: been probably a little perplexed of why I was so
• 29:52
  Speaker 6: interested in nineteen But a lot of it just wasn't
• 29:55
  Speaker 6: I loved the music. I loved the I love the
• 29:57
  Speaker 6: way the music is presented. That's a good part of it.
• 29:59
  Speaker 6: But I also like nineteen sixty one. A lot of
• 30:02
  Speaker 6: a lot of it is the idea, like mad you know,
• 30:05
  Speaker 6: a lot of it is is the time period. I
• 30:08
  Speaker 6: like that time period a I was born. I can
• 30:11
  Speaker 6: imagine what it was like for my father because I
• 30:13
  Speaker 6: was two in nineteen sixty one. So a lot of
• 30:15
  Speaker 6: it has to do with that because of New York
• 30:18
  Speaker 6: City and that and that era. But a lot of
• 30:21
  Speaker 6: it has to do with the folk you know, the
• 30:23
  Speaker 6: folk genre. I know on Greenwich, you know, and I've
• 30:26
  Speaker 6: had Roger mcguinna on and everything else. A lot of
• 30:29
  Speaker 6: it has to do with something along those lines too.
• 30:31
  Speaker 6: So basically hit both chords. For me, had nine, which
• 30:33
  Speaker 6: is tremendous, and then I had to pay off there
• 30:36
  Speaker 6: in England, which is great.
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: Movie's always a passionate personal vocation, as you said, so
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: it's cool little the story behind it. Bad Lieutenant comes
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: out in nineteen ninety two Able Faras film Dark Cedy,
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: Underworld Harvey Kai Tel and one scene pulls over a
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: couple of teenage girls and it's I don't want to
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: get a detail what happens, but there's a lot of
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: X rated excreamist content. Martin Scor says he loves the film.
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: He called Bad Lieutenant, Well, the best film is the nineties, really,
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: but when I asked you about it, you were surprised
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: you did not know what the content was gonna be
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: in this movie. For those haven't seen it, the first
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: voice the movie is Christopher Matt doc Russo because I
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: tell it's such a depraved cop. He roots against the Mets,
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: he gambles against him, and it's your voice doing talk radio.
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: Tell me how you got the gig?
• 31:14
  Speaker 6: That was the eighty eight That was the He did
• 31:18
  Speaker 6: a spinoff on the eighty eight postseason with the Mens
• 31:20
  Speaker 6: and the Dodgers. Yeah, I did. They needed a host
• 31:25
  Speaker 6: to sort of, as you said, basically be the guy
• 31:27
  Speaker 6: who kind of does some things in the movie, to
• 31:29
  Speaker 6: be the soundtrack. Not that in the soundtrack, but I'm
• 31:32
  Speaker 6: on there two or three times. And we got Bruce
• 31:34
  Speaker 6: Murray in there too, because Bruce played the caller. I
• 31:38
  Speaker 6: was at fan I don't know where Bruce was. He
• 31:40
  Speaker 6: was in DC at the time. I went to a
• 31:42
  Speaker 6: New York studio, you know, in the morning, and I
• 31:46
  Speaker 6: may have gone there a couple of different times. And
• 31:49
  Speaker 6: I did this soundtrack and then I went to go
• 31:51
  Speaker 6: see the movie. And it is weird that I am
• 31:53
  Speaker 6: the first voice that you heard, you know, Kit tell
• 31:56
  Speaker 6: as you said, has got the radio on the dashboard
• 31:58
  Speaker 6: he's a huge driving around. He's a huge sports sports fan.
• 32:01
  Speaker 6: I did not know exactly what the movies was about
• 32:05
  Speaker 6: before I did it. It wasn't like I examined the
• 32:07
  Speaker 6: script or knew what the theme was going to be.
• 32:11
  Speaker 6: Would it have changed my involvement? It probably wouldn't have.
• 32:15
  Speaker 6: You know, I wasn't married then, no children then maybe
• 32:19
  Speaker 6: today it would not then, and I was. I was
• 32:23
  Speaker 6: floored when I went, when I went to go see
• 32:25
  Speaker 6: it to hear my first of I heard to hear
• 32:27
  Speaker 6: my voice the first up, So it did take me
• 32:30
  Speaker 6: it back. They did a big it was probably two
• 32:33
  Speaker 6: years ago. There was a story somewhere where they did
• 32:37
  Speaker 6: a big They did a big recapturing the film and
• 32:43
  Speaker 6: the author. I can find it. It was on internet somewhere.
• 32:46
  Speaker 6: The author did a very good job of talking about
• 32:49
  Speaker 6: the movie and me because it was the first take,
• 32:52
  Speaker 6: and they did a very good job about how weird
• 32:54
  Speaker 6: it is that the guy that is doing it is
• 32:56
  Speaker 6: the guy you've see now. So there was a lot
• 32:58
  Speaker 6: of things that were interesting, But I did not know
• 33:00
  Speaker 6: what the movie was about them and answer the question,
• 33:02
  Speaker 6: and I did not know what the movie was about
• 33:04
  Speaker 6: before they presented it to me. I was probably as
• 33:07
  Speaker 6: shocked as you were when I went there. And his
• 33:09
  Speaker 6: funny thing is, I did not find it. Like you
• 33:11
  Speaker 6: and I have different movie tastes. You know, I'm a
• 33:14
  Speaker 6: place in the sun guy, you are not. But I
• 33:17
  Speaker 6: did not. I did not find a movie very entertaining.
• 33:21
  Speaker 6: I'll tell you one thing that I did that you
• 33:22
  Speaker 6: get into, though, and I think you'd enjoy it. On
• 33:26
  Speaker 6: when I was in the Caribbean in March, I took
• 33:29
  Speaker 6: I read six books or five books. One of them
• 33:32
  Speaker 6: I read was the biography from twenty twenty one by
• 33:37
  Speaker 6: Mark Harris on Mike Nichols.
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: Incredible. I read it amazing.
• 33:42
  Speaker 6: And I put Harris on for an hour middle of March.
• 33:47
  Speaker 6: When I got back. He's been on before. He wrote
• 33:48
  Speaker 6: another movie about the part the big movies in the sixties,
• 33:51
  Speaker 6: you know, Bonnie and Clyde and Heat of the Night
• 33:53
  Speaker 6: and everything else, and so he had been on before
• 33:56
  Speaker 6: I put him on, and he was great. And that
• 33:58
  Speaker 6: book is a tremendous book. Tremendous book. Another great book
• 34:03
  Speaker 6: that you would like is the biography on Robert Mitcham.
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: I love that book. Are you kidding, Lee, Server, babe?
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: I don't care one of my favorite books.
• 34:12
  Speaker 6: Great book. And Lee Server also did a book on
• 34:15
  Speaker 6: Ava Gardner Gardner Baby, that's a great book.
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: That's a great read my life.
• 34:22
  Speaker 6: Yeah, he I had him on because he also wrote
• 34:26
  Speaker 6: the book about the mafia guy Johnny whatever his name is,
• 34:29
  Speaker 6: I forget his name, nineteen seventy six where they found
• 34:32
  Speaker 6: in an oil bind and the freaking keep as Caine
• 34:34
  Speaker 6: chopped up wearing a go Uh. But the the movie
• 34:38
  Speaker 6: with he did, the Mitchen book and the Gardener book
• 34:43
  Speaker 6: and the Aver Gardner book is good too. I don't
• 34:45
  Speaker 6: know if you've read.
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: That my last recommends, but I haven't read it.
• 34:47
  Speaker 6: But he said this was a very good book. I
• 34:51
  Speaker 6: had him on. He was great, Uh, Server, But Mitcham
• 34:54
  Speaker 6: is very interesting. So I love the old biographies of
• 34:57
  Speaker 6: all the great movie stars. And of course the great
• 34:59
  Speaker 6: movie that the great book did a Scott Berg diet
• 35:02
  Speaker 6: on Samuel Goldwyn. That's a good movie, a very good book.
• 35:06
  Speaker 6: Have you read that about the great director, a great
• 35:08
  Speaker 6: film producer. He's Scott Berg. You'd like that too.
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna write that one, Dougs. I've seen I've read
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: the other two books, but that's gonna be fantastic. The
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: Mike Nichols Book're Right because a fascinating career was a
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: great comedy criy right, Elena May and Nichols obviously for
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: years to graduate. The one thing I didn't like about
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: Mike Nichols because I love Gary Shandling at Larry Sanders
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: show of the book.
• 35:26
  Speaker 6: He didn't like Shandling was awful. Yeah, yeah, he was
• 35:31
  Speaker 6: down on Shandling and he loved Metow Streep and everything else.
• 35:34
  Speaker 6: That is a you know, that is an excellent book.
• 35:37
  Speaker 6: I did try to get Paccino on regarding his memoir,
• 35:41
  Speaker 6: which is a pretty good memoir. I wasn't able to
• 35:45
  Speaker 6: do that, and I did do Ben Mankowitz when Hackman died.
• 35:50
  Speaker 6: When Hackman died, I did that. And then I on
• 35:55
  Speaker 6: purpose I saw two movies that I wasn't familiar with
• 36:00
  Speaker 6: with Hackman that I did Narrow Margin.
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: Okay, I haven't seen it.
• 36:05
  Speaker 6: It's about a da in La in La who's got
• 36:08
  Speaker 6: to go up to Canada to get a star witness
• 36:12
  Speaker 6: for a crime that she saw. And then the other
• 36:15
  Speaker 6: movie that he did was very good with Night Moves,
• 36:18
  Speaker 6: Yes seven, where he's an ex football player and in
• 36:22
  Speaker 6: that movie is what's her name? Who played in Working Girl?
• 36:26
  Speaker 6: I forget Melanie Griffith. She plays a sixteen year old
• 36:31
  Speaker 6: and he's got Hackman. He's got to go to Florida
• 36:35
  Speaker 6: to track her down because he's hired by her movie
• 36:39
  Speaker 6: star mother to find her. She disappears on some boat.
• 36:43
  Speaker 6: That's a good movie. So I saw those two Hackman
• 36:45
  Speaker 6: movies on purpose after he died, So I find my
• 36:47
  Speaker 6: way to get into the movie realm. I really do well.
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: And Ben Meg which is an all time great guy,
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: mean Hollywood loyalty. Obviously, here's a you know, grandfather co
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: wrote Citizens.
• 36:56
  Speaker 6: Yeah. If he's a good guy, and he came on
• 36:58
  Speaker 6: the day after he died for about a half hour,
• 37:02
  Speaker 6: let the show.
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's all to make a huge obviously with Turner
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: classic movies, movies is great. I don't want to keep
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: you too long, Dog, you gotta go to your show.
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: I want to say a couple of baseball's and wan't
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: let you out of here. You're giants right now, second,
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: right now in the National League West has been a
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: great story. I worked to John Stash every years ago
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: to ESPN. I say, I'm a huge fan of Dog.
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: What he got from me he goes, Matt dog Russo,
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: he goes, you only all talk with our fandom.
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: He goes, he changed once they won, and once they get.
• 37:26
  Speaker 6: I did I got bored, corrector, he said.
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: But prior to that, I was at a bar with that.
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: He goes, he'd be fucking on the table, yelling screen.
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: He goes, you will not top his passion and his
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: fandom at its apex for the Giants. I'm just curious
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: your thoughts on the Giants now having a great season.
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: I know it's changed over time, but at a time
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: it was the most important in your life.
• 37:43
  Speaker 2: Was the San Francisco Giants, right? Yeah?
• 37:44
  Speaker 6: It sure was really through twenty twelve, that second championship,
• 37:49
  Speaker 6: and then I kind of lost it. I've seen a
• 37:52
  Speaker 6: Giants little bit, you know. They remind me a little
• 37:54
  Speaker 6: bit of the team a few years ago that one
• 37:56
  Speaker 6: one hundred and seven games and then lost to LA.
• 38:00
  Speaker 6: They're very resourceful, you know. They went a lot of
• 38:03
  Speaker 6: crazy games, and it began Opening Day when Flores hit
• 38:07
  Speaker 6: the game winning home run against Cincinnati when they were
• 38:10
  Speaker 6: losing with Treilli in the ninth They kind of began
• 38:12
  Speaker 6: Opening Day. They've won a lot of improbable games, They've
• 38:15
  Speaker 6: had a lot of incredible comebacks, they got a lot
• 38:19
  Speaker 6: of you know, they can pitch. You know, Robbie Ray's
• 38:22
  Speaker 6: had a great year. Obviously, web is a good pitcher.
• 38:25
  Speaker 6: They have better pitching than you think. They got pretty
• 38:27
  Speaker 6: good starting pitching. Melvin's a good manager if you give
• 38:30
  Speaker 6: them something to work with. And the Giants right now
• 38:33
  Speaker 6: have a little karmer. They got a little cachet and
• 38:35
  Speaker 6: they have a little they got a little overachieving element
• 38:39
  Speaker 6: to them right now, and that makes them a little
• 38:41
  Speaker 6: better than some of the parts. I mean, you know,
• 38:44
  Speaker 6: each individual guy, you know, Damis and everything else not great.
• 38:47
  Speaker 6: But when you put them all together, the way they
• 38:50
  Speaker 6: mix and match, they've done an excellent job. So from
• 38:53
  Speaker 6: that standpoint, the Giants got a chance, you know, to
• 38:55
  Speaker 6: be a They beat the Yankees two out of three.
• 38:58
  Speaker 6: They had a good series in Philadelphia. They haven't played
• 39:00
  Speaker 6: the Dodgers yet, and they're not and they're one and
• 39:03
  Speaker 6: four against the Diamond Max and Padres. They've only played
• 39:06
  Speaker 6: the but you know, I think they have a very
• 39:09
  Speaker 6: good chance to be in the mix all year long
• 39:11
  Speaker 6: in the Nationalge. The Braves are down, you know, So
• 39:14
  Speaker 6: from that standpoint, or the Mets in the Phillies. The
• 39:17
  Speaker 6: nl Central will probably produce only one team, which then
• 39:21
  Speaker 6: leaves you a couple of teams there in the NLL.
• 39:23
  Speaker 6: So that would be three. I leave you maybe three
• 39:26
  Speaker 6: teams in that NLS. So keep an eye on that.
• 39:29
  Speaker 6: With San Francisco, they could be in the mix all
• 39:31
  Speaker 6: year alone. They really could.
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: And I'm sure on the radio can be talking about one.
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: Sodo has been facing it right now. He's gone from
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: one Soto to Soso to one no show because he's
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: not busting into the box. Meantime, Aaron Judge is a
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: modern day Berry Bonds be closing a personal note, you know.
• 39:43
  Speaker 6: And I did I did this, so I did Soto.
• 39:45
  Speaker 6: I'm mad about today, okay, because I did the statistics.
• 39:48
  Speaker 6: The fact that didn't run twice, the fact that k
• 39:52
  Speaker 6: and Clappish got all over them this weekend doesn't seem
• 39:56
  Speaker 6: to be happy. He Wan, you get paid seven hundred
• 39:58
  Speaker 6: and sixty five million dollars. You know what You're gonna
• 40:00
  Speaker 6: be watched carefully. You know, last year Yankees overshadowed the
• 40:04
  Speaker 6: way attention to Judge too, not as much pressure and
• 40:07
  Speaker 6: a Yankee fan feeling like they were you know, scorned
• 40:11
  Speaker 6: what we all knew it was a one year thing
• 40:14
  Speaker 6: that there is no guarantee you're gonna keep them. I mean,
• 40:17
  Speaker 6: my god, it was like he was there for ten
• 40:18
  Speaker 6: years and he left. He's ah goo playing a moon
• 40:21
  Speaker 6: if the money was right. We all know that. Jeez.
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: At a last thought, you know how much I admire
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: and respect you, and I oftentimes think about my own
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: career of forty six now four kids, and I go, jeez.
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: You know, normally in these careers, once you get into
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: your fifties, they shot the phase you out and they
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: look up at you.
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: I watch it.
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: Go.
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: Man, this guy's still throwing ninety seven. You're still as
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: popular as ever. Do you ever reflect on your own longevity.
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: You're a Hall of Famer and still going strong.
• 40:45
  Speaker 6: You know, I try not to get too wrapped up
• 40:47
  Speaker 6: in that. I mean, you know, the obviously there's little renaissance.
• 40:50
  Speaker 6: You gotta give Stephen Ayo the credit for that, because
• 40:53
  Speaker 6: you know, he brought me in there the day that
• 40:55
  Speaker 6: Bonds and Clemens were veto for the last time with
• 40:58
  Speaker 6: the Hall of Fame. He needed the baseball guy. He
• 40:59
  Speaker 6: did two segments, so you have to give him the
• 41:02
  Speaker 6: credit because that's face that a lot of this Renaissan
• 41:04
  Speaker 6: just because of First Take. I've signed a contract since
• 41:08
  Speaker 6: I started here with the with Serious because of I
• 41:12
  Speaker 6: think the fact that they love stephen A and I
• 41:15
  Speaker 6: see his power, and the fact that if stephen A
• 41:18
  Speaker 6: likes me had a serious not I think that contributed
• 41:21
  Speaker 6: to me being able to resign a Serious when I
• 41:23
  Speaker 6: did a year or so ago. Because of the success
• 41:26
  Speaker 6: I had on First Take, I've done a couple of
• 41:28
  Speaker 6: other things sort of outside of the realm Vice Network.
• 41:31
  Speaker 6: I did that verdict thing on Belichick and Brady or
• 41:34
  Speaker 6: because of I think of ESPN. So I think ESPN's
• 41:38
  Speaker 6: got to get a lot of credit for this growth
• 41:42
  Speaker 6: and this. You know, the fact that I haven't seeped
• 41:44
  Speaker 6: into the woodwork, you know, at the age of sixty
• 41:47
  Speaker 6: five years of age. So let's give them the credit
• 41:49
  Speaker 6: for that. And you know the fact is that I've
• 41:51
  Speaker 6: been able to for whatever the reason. You know, I'm
• 41:54
  Speaker 6: a radio person, but I can play the TV angle
• 41:58
  Speaker 6: at least once a week and be effective with it,
• 42:00
  Speaker 6: hand motion, the way I talk the knowledge of history,
• 42:04
  Speaker 6: so I can do that, so I can blend into
• 42:07
  Speaker 6: the history from the radio. I can make that transition.
• 42:10
  Speaker 6: Not a lot of guys can do that, you know.
• 42:13
  Speaker 6: I actually think the radio to TV journey is easier
• 42:19
  Speaker 6: content wise, harder talking to a camera and being quick
• 42:23
  Speaker 6: with your responses. I think the TV radio thing no
• 42:28
  Speaker 6: issues with you know, how you look, how you present it.
• 42:32
  Speaker 6: The issue there becomes content because radio is longer with content.
• 42:37
  Speaker 6: TV is shorter with content. It's all about presentation. Radio
• 42:41
  Speaker 6: it's all about making sure you know you can fill
• 42:44
  Speaker 6: up a three hour show. So you've got to be
• 42:46
  Speaker 6: able to do both. I've always been able to do
• 42:48
  Speaker 6: the radio and the fact that I can do this
• 42:50
  Speaker 6: at least a day a week, it's not every day.
• 42:52
  Speaker 6: At least a day a week. I've shown that I
• 42:54
  Speaker 6: can make a contribution on the TV and fit in
• 42:58
  Speaker 6: with the modern age, which is important.
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: You mentioned the VERDICTO was just in your interviewed me
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: because they wanted to ask me about some of the
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: de basic.
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: Of season two, which you'll be a part of.
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: It's Otani versus Bonds, Ruth versus Dion, and as I'm
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: getting up to leave, I said, sorry, I don't know
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: anything about golf. It's Nicholas versus Tiger, and I don't
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: know anything about soccer, Messy versus Ronald the guy actually were
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: doing tennis Tiger.
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: Excuse me to go.
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: I want to give you my thoughts on Federer, so
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: I give him ten minutes of gold on Federer.
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: You're gonna love it, I said, Doggie, I love it very.
• 43:26
  Speaker 6: Good, because we're gonna do that. We're gonna do five
• 43:28
  Speaker 6: topics and Federer and Nadal and Djokovic is going to
• 43:31
  Speaker 6: be one of the topics, and Ruth o'tani is going
• 43:34
  Speaker 6: to be one of the topics. And you mentioned you know,
• 43:37
  Speaker 6: Dion and Bo Jackson. That's where it came in.
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly.
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: Listen, the most important thing is not the way a
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: man is on the air, the way he treats people,
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: whether it's Bruce, whether it's Rich Savino, whether it's guys
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: like me. Admire, you've always given us the time. You've
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: always been respectful. You're an all time great guy. And
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: again you're making time for us. Doggie, you're the best.
• 43:53
  Speaker 6: We miss it about the man. You're my fan club,
• 43:55
  Speaker 6: but I gotta remember that you're part of my fan club.
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: He and Jimmy trained.
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: Thank you, buddy, Yes, you and Jimmy good job.
• 44:01
  Speaker 6: Appreciate it. Thanks guys, Thanks Jimmy.
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: Thank you so much for mad Dog again.
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: You can always catch his show on Serious of course
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: from three until seven Eastern and on First Take every week.
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: Hopefully more hockey talk. Maybe he'll be locked into the
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: cup file next time we speak to him. Cine found
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: sixty Quick and Dirty here and Lelo and Stitch in theaters.
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: They continue, yes, continue, JD.
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: The trend here which I'm quite annoyed by, which is
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: taking the animated movies that making it a live action film.
• 44:33
  Speaker 3: So oh, the awful.
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: It's just a complete lack of inspiration here.
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: Just recycling the same crap.
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: So oh, we saw The Lion King, the animated film,
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: which is absolute classic, and I have to go watch
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: the live action nonsense.
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: So unfortunately the trend continues to Lelo and Stitch.
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: My first thought to is this, I took three of
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: my boys who went the Dolby Theater, which is the
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: better theater here in local premuse, New Jersey.
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: The big thing here.
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: The reason I took it is I want the reclining seats.
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: Quite honestly, so the reclining seats.
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: Gotta pay ale extra four prices, four tickets. What do
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: you think I'm gonna tell me to the ticket prices.
• 45:02
  Speaker 4: Four tickets, four tickets reclining. See, it's probably thirty one
• 45:06
  Speaker 4: dollars a ticket.
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: It just gets a total price.
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: You was at thirty one and twenty, okay, tal, you
• 45:11
  Speaker 3: don't know how to do math.
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: Thirty Well, you guys.
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: You guys are clearly not going the theater as much.
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: You're going to hire them theaters than I am. Eighty
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: seven dollars for four tickets, so I thought was outrageous.
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: You guys thought I got to steal. Apparently, Yeah, twenty.
• 45:24
  Speaker 4: Why do I go to ipick, which like the food
• 45:26
  Speaker 4: and the I would go to IPA that might me
• 45:29
  Speaker 4: serve like a king?
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: All right?
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: How about large popcorn and three slushes? You want to
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: take a guests of that price for you?
• 45:34
  Speaker 3: Six thousand dollars?
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: Thirty seven dollars god.
• 45:37
  Speaker 4: Burn popcorn for burnt popcorn with greasy butter and salt.
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: But I take full advantage of that free refill for
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: a large So I'm like, I wait hour too.
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: The movie kids a little restless, don't worry, let's get
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: a little large.
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: I can't say much, but the film, I meanlest it's
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: a nice movie for kids. My kids certainly enjoyed it.
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: I will say I'm always amused by the veteran character
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: actors suposed to be to go why is in this movie?
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: And in this case, that guy would be Zach Alfanakus,
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: everyone's favorite from The Hangover. One of the funniest movie
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: is The Century. I'm like, just clearly cashing a paycheck. Hey,
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: we want to put you in Lelo and Stitch is
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: the bad guy can be a little bit of bugging.
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: We'll give you an X amount of points on the
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: I'll take it. Zach Galvina, this is where his career is.
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: Now when you see that, did you see to yourself, Hey,
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: that's just an actor taking a taking a little job,
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: or do you get a little sad and go?
• 46:17
  Speaker 6: Man?
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: This guy was really making people laugh.
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: And now he's in Lelo and Stitch the lower story
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: of an alien coming and befriending a little Hawaiian girl.
• 46:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I listen. I don't know.
• 46:29
  Speaker 4: I mean it's like, if you're you're providing for your family,
• 46:32
  Speaker 4: and I mean, if that's what you want to do,
• 46:35
  Speaker 4: you know, I'm always like, I always laugh when you
• 46:37
  Speaker 4: know some actors are like, oh, like, why would you
• 46:39
  Speaker 4: get typecast and I'm like, shit, they're gonna keep paying
• 46:41
  Speaker 4: you to play the same person over and over again.
• 46:44
  Speaker 3: Don't interrupt him.
• 46:45
  Speaker 4: Just cash it and go make enough money so you
• 46:48
  Speaker 4: can create your own movies. I mean, and then you
• 46:50
  Speaker 4: can you can make your own shit. You know, one
• 46:52
  Speaker 4: for you, one for you, two for them, or whatever
• 46:55
  Speaker 4: it is. It's always a one for you, one for them.
• 46:56
  Speaker 4: She makes some crappy commercial way, then you make one
• 46:58
  Speaker 4: independent art.
• 46:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but I mean I haven't.
• 47:00
  Speaker 4: I haven't seen much of Zach And I mean you
• 47:03
  Speaker 4: it's tough because you look at those comedians that had
• 47:06
  Speaker 4: those kind of like raunchy comedies. Do you see many
• 47:08
  Speaker 4: of those anymore? Like it's the comedy world and movies
• 47:11
  Speaker 4: is taking touch. A has taken such a kick in
• 47:15
  Speaker 4: the d.
• 47:16
  Speaker 2: It's a great point. You say, Oh, this is the
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: summer of the hangover, this is the summer. There's something
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: about it.
• 47:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, there's nothing to that. Yeah, you don't have that anymore.
• 47:23
  Speaker 4: So these guys are just ship out of luck and
• 47:25
  Speaker 4: they got to go take you know, you gotta be
• 47:27
  Speaker 4: Jim Carrey's got to be doctor Robotaneck, another son taking
• 47:32
  Speaker 4: some crappy roll in.
• 47:32
  Speaker 3: A yeah, I think it, Brad.
• 47:34
  Speaker 4: It's pretty good movie though, so that definitely. Actually, yeah,
• 47:37
  Speaker 4: he puts a little puts a little flair to it.
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: Tell once your son gets a little older, maybe go
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: take him see Lelo and Stitch unless he's clamoring to
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: go see it right now, unless he likes aliens who
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: love Elvis.
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: I mean that was the other upside too. We did
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: get a good Elvis soundtrack, Devil.
• 47:49
  Speaker 3: In discussion you did. Oh yeah, beautiful.
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: All right, let's get by the way, coming up next,
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• 47:58
  Speaker 2: Which are you? Yeah?
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: I made sure I checked on Amazon because Jadi didn't
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: mention Amazon. And nothing worse, by the way, looking up
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: your buddy and writing porno like my buddy's wife.
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: I got at Gillian Miller Porno.
• 48:07
  Speaker 4: That's what's funny is everybody goes, oh, it's a porno,
• 48:09
  Speaker 4: and I'm like, no, it's a horror movie about a
• 48:13
  Speaker 4: possessed porn film that it hits again. It one's it
• 48:17
  Speaker 4: won at south By Southwest. It's actually like, it's actually
• 48:20
  Speaker 4: an interesting the way they shot it and filled it
• 48:22
  Speaker 4: and it has some acclaim to it. So yeah, and
• 48:25
  Speaker 4: there was talk initially of them like finding distribution.
• 48:27
  Speaker 3: But yeah, it is.
• 48:28
  Speaker 4: When you look up, I feel like, was you way
• 48:32
  Speaker 4: from the movie. I'm like, yeah, a movie on Amazon?
• 48:34
  Speaker 4: What's it called Porno. They're like, oh, oh, so you're
• 48:38
  Speaker 4: a So you're a cock and I'm like, now, it's
• 48:43
  Speaker 4: actually a horror movie, but a bunch of kids in
• 48:45
  Speaker 4: an abandoned movie theater.
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: You mentioned h Blaschell earlier again another retread here, like
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: I'm all for it. I mean, whatever, but the main
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: man behind the bench of the black Hawks three seasons
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: on John Cooper's staff.
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: He was the head coach of Detroit Red Wicks for
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: seven seasons. I'm shocked he was.
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: There's seven seasons. I thought it was three or four.
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: So he knows what it's like to do a rebuild.
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: He won the call Detroit's h all team, the Grand Rapids.
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: Griffins later became the guy in Dallas. You made the
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: playoffs in his first season behind the bench, but then
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: they missed the playoffs the next six seasons. I mean,
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: you're trying to rebuild a team in Chicago, which is
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: pretty bad. Patience is required as all I would say
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: to Jeff Blaschell.
• 49:19
  Speaker 4: I yeah, I think they're a long ways away, and
• 49:22
  Speaker 4: I think this is probably they need another in between coach.
• 49:25
  Speaker 4: I think they just needed a coach to get their
• 49:27
  Speaker 4: identity and then they'll go get the big coach. But
• 49:30
  Speaker 4: there's a lot of options out there. I just don't
• 49:32
  Speaker 4: know how sexy of a position this was, you know,
• 49:38
  Speaker 4: I don't know if this was something that the highly
• 49:40
  Speaker 4: touted guys were looking at, being like yeah, like a
• 49:42
  Speaker 4: Joe quinnvill was like I want this. You know, he's
• 49:45
  Speaker 4: much better suited to going Anaheim. So I just think
• 49:47
  Speaker 4: people interviewed for but I don't know, if you know,
• 49:50
  Speaker 4: the juice is worth the squeeze for a lot of these,
• 49:53
  Speaker 4: you know, more these bigger time coaches. So nothing against
• 49:56
  Speaker 4: Jeff Blashell. I think Jeff Blashell will use this as
• 49:58
  Speaker 4: a as probably a springboard to you know, if he
• 50:01
  Speaker 4: could really turn this around in Chicago. This is going
• 50:04
  Speaker 4: to only improve his stock. And if he doesn't, well,
• 50:06
  Speaker 4: you know you could just blame it on blame it
• 50:08
  Speaker 4: on the rain, blame it on Connor Bdard and you know,
• 50:11
  Speaker 4: just say I'm out. But yeah, it's I'm more interested
• 50:15
  Speaker 4: to see the assistant coaching staff what they bring and
• 50:18
  Speaker 4: I think Andre Sorenson is staying on and as an assistant,
• 50:22
  Speaker 4: which I heard he's very liked as an assistant around
• 50:27
  Speaker 4: that team. But I'm just interested to see who else
• 50:29
  Speaker 4: they bring in and how they round out that staff. Yeah,
• 50:32
  Speaker 4: see what happens.
• 50:33
  Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I don't want to call it uninspired
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: higher but it's an uninspired team roll.
• 50:37
  Speaker 4: So yeah, I mean they got to be happy about
• 50:39
  Speaker 4: Frank Naser as I segue for you, Yeah, beautiful segue.
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: Well this is great.
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: I mean you were all over this tage tops Is
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: scoring the golden goal two minutes and two seconds in overtime.
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: Jeremy swimming twenty five saves US beats Switzerland won nothing
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: in Stockholm the DOUAAHF World Championship, first time since nineteen
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: thirty three.
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: They technically were crowned world champions in.
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: Nineteen sixty when they won Olympic gold, but there's no
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: actual world championship tournament that year, so a historic win
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: for the America is heading into the Olympics, we got
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: eight months until we get to Milan again.
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: Gendi.
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: For those who want to aware you play the World Championships.
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: You know what this tournament is like, awful result for Canada.
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: It's just brutal because not to get to the Semis, which.
• 51:15
  Speaker 3: Is where we won four nations.
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: So with Sidney Crossey coming back, you're right, we did
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: win four nations. But props the American's nice win for them.
• 51:21
  Speaker 4: I mean, you look back, you know nineteen thirty three
• 51:24
  Speaker 4: when gas was like twenty cents, it's cost you fifty cents. Yeah,
• 51:30
  Speaker 4: and now it's their win. That's how long ago it was.
• 51:32
  Speaker 4: I mean, congratulations this. You know, we're two Canadians and
• 51:36
  Speaker 4: you know I had lost in a shootout in World
• 51:38
  Speaker 4: Championships to Sweden and had such a great opportunity to win.
• 51:43
  Speaker 4: And you know, I still love that tournament. I think
• 51:46
  Speaker 4: it's a great tournam. It's a tournament where guys have
• 51:47
  Speaker 4: to volunteer. You know, they call a lot of guys
• 51:50
  Speaker 4: and a lot of guys will turn it down, but
• 51:51
  Speaker 4: you have to agree to go there. It's not like this,
• 51:54
  Speaker 4: not necessarily it's a highly touted It wasn't a highly
• 51:57
  Speaker 4: touted tournament. But you see guys having more pride, wanting
• 52:00
  Speaker 4: to go. Better players there, and I mean, this young,
• 52:03
  Speaker 4: kind of up start American team, you're starting.
• 52:07
  Speaker 3: You know.
• 52:07
  Speaker 4: I was talking to John Torcetti on NHL tonight and
• 52:10
  Speaker 4: I am, yeah, I asked him. I asked him about
• 52:13
  Speaker 4: I asked him about it, and he was like, it's
• 52:15
  Speaker 4: a lot of the US Development Program kids that are
• 52:19
  Speaker 4: now you know, they've won at that stage, they've won
• 52:21
  Speaker 4: in the World Juniors, and now they're like taking this
• 52:24
  Speaker 4: and they love playing for Team USA. So they're starting
• 52:26
  Speaker 4: to build a culture around these guys. And and you
• 52:29
  Speaker 4: see it. And I mean, listen, Frank Naser had an
• 52:31
  Speaker 4: unbelievable tournament, Connor Garland unbelievable tournament, Logan Cooley, The list
• 52:35
  Speaker 4: goes on and on. Obviously, Tage Thompson, it's nice to
• 52:38
  Speaker 4: see him get a win after being a Buffalo for
• 52:40
  Speaker 4: so long and seeing what that tastes like. So I
• 52:43
  Speaker 4: think he's going to pull that into next season. And
• 52:46
  Speaker 4: you know, they had such a great team. And then
• 52:47
  Speaker 4: obviously just the the sentiment of bringing out the Johnny
• 52:51
  Speaker 4: Goodau jersey.
• 52:52
  Speaker 3: Uh, you know, what a what a great you.
• 52:55
  Speaker 4: Know, amount of you know, I don't even just great
• 52:58
  Speaker 4: closure for that situation and that family and to win
• 53:02
  Speaker 4: that World Championships. I think just amazing and you know,
• 53:06
  Speaker 4: you know, gone but never forgotten. But again, this this
• 53:09
  Speaker 4: Team USA team, you know, and and this Team USA
• 53:12
  Speaker 4: organization is really pushing hard, and I think this is
• 53:16
  Speaker 4: a good start for them going into the Olympics. And
• 53:19
  Speaker 4: I'm sure there's a lot of young guys there that
• 53:21
  Speaker 4: made a case. They're like, hey, like, we don't want
• 53:23
  Speaker 4: to be left off this team again because this means
• 53:26
  Speaker 4: a lot to us. And you saw it just by
• 53:28
  Speaker 4: their celebration. And I was texting with a bunch of
• 53:30
  Speaker 4: the guys, Clayton Keller, guys, I played with, Michael kessel Ring,
• 53:34
  Speaker 4: you know, very happy for them and and I know
• 53:36
  Speaker 4: this is something that was really high in their list
• 53:38
  Speaker 4: to win. So it's a great tournament to win. And
• 53:40
  Speaker 4: I'm sure they're going to be uh hung titties this morning.
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: Anytime you're repping your repping your country and you went,
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: I'm what the tournament is.
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: It's great to say we got those guys three stars.
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: I'll kick it off.
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: You don't goal with this Brad Marsham and gettingdairy Queen
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: on his off day he scored.
• 53:56
  Speaker 4: Fourth and then trying and then trying to get a
• 53:59
  Speaker 4: then trying to get a sponsorship.
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: That was the best part. Live by Bukowskas a sport.
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: He's like, we just have this picture of you here
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: at eating dairy Queen.
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, day off chalship Cookie Dell had to
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: get it in.
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: Nothing better than a Sunday Dairy Queen. Balls in your court.
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: If d Q doesn't sponsor Brad Marsian, that is a
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: giant loss for all of us. Love d Q, Love Marsian.
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: He's been a hell of a player for long. Domatic
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: great series of the Panthers.
• 54:22
  Speaker 3: I loved it. Go ahead, Tal, Yeah for.
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: Me, I'm going with Ryan, Ryan, NuGen Hopkins. The guys
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: pass stud.
• 54:30
  Speaker 5: I mean, has been an absolute stud for Edmonton. We've
• 54:33
  Speaker 5: been talking about how important their depth scoring has been
• 54:35
  Speaker 5: these playoffs. He's been leading the charge there. Three assists
• 54:39
  Speaker 5: in Game three. He has seven points in the series
• 54:41
  Speaker 5: with Dallas. That's more than Leon, that's more than Connor McDavid.
• 54:45
  Speaker 5: That's more than any player in the series. And he's
• 54:49
  Speaker 5: actually in the last four years when Edmonton has been
• 54:51
  Speaker 5: a steady playoff performer, making deep runs every year. He's
• 54:55
  Speaker 5: at about a point per game through those four playoff runs.
• 54:58
  Speaker 5: So let's give this guy a little more, you know,
• 55:01
  Speaker 5: a little more credit.
• 55:02
  Speaker 4: He's been great a STUDI observation Talvivinchevsky astute. I actually
• 55:08
  Speaker 4: saw on your notes he put NuGen Hopkins and I
• 55:10
  Speaker 4: was like, damn, that was my pick.
• 55:11
  Speaker 3: H No, I have to go.
• 55:13
  Speaker 4: I mentioned him earlier, Evan Bouchard. Evan Bouchard is gonna
• 55:17
  Speaker 4: get fucking paid this year, as he should. I, you know,
• 55:23
  Speaker 4: I quantify excellences as guys that can perform in the playoffs,
• 55:28
  Speaker 4: and he elevates his game to another level. I mean
• 55:31
  Speaker 4: the stat of him being just behind Bobby Horror, Bobby
• 55:35
  Speaker 4: not Bobby Horror, Bobby Orr.
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: And that's actually Miller's pornal.
• 55:39
  Speaker 3: There's Jason clean it.
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: Up four points per game of the playoffs, Buschyard one
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: point one two go ahead.
• 55:47
  Speaker 4: That and and that is just insane numbers. And what
• 55:51
  Speaker 4: he's doing in the Bousche Bomb. But the way he's
• 55:54
  Speaker 4: playing defensively as well with Brett coole Af they're playing
• 55:56
  Speaker 4: without Mantia Sekkolm, and he's playing bigger defensive minutes hasn't
• 56:00
  Speaker 4: been a liability. He just moves the pucks so well.
• 56:03
  Speaker 4: Shoots the puck so well, and you know, I just
• 56:06
  Speaker 4: think he's on another level right now. And credit to
• 56:09
  Speaker 4: him who takes He takes a lot of guff and
• 56:12
  Speaker 4: bally who from a lot of people in the media
• 56:15
  Speaker 4: and fans, you know, just because at times he looks lasadaisical.
• 56:20
  Speaker 4: But I just think it's him what makes him so
• 56:23
  Speaker 4: frustrating at times when he's just like kind of nonchalant,
• 56:26
  Speaker 4: is what makes him so good, because he's just so
• 56:28
  Speaker 4: calm under pressure and calm in the pocket when the
• 56:31
  Speaker 4: bullets are flying and whizzing by, he is calm, cool, collected.
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: We're gonna props to those stars.
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: Show up the stars who are not shine. We'll bury
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: these guys in the way out. Jamie Benn won goal
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: in sixteen games of the playoffs. Jason Robinson one and nine,
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: Mason marsh With one in sixteen, Why Johnson one and nine,
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: down and Off one in sixteen, Sagan two in his
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: last thirteen do Shane one in sixteen.
• 56:53
  Speaker 2: We'll see if the stars can pick it up. Will
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: be back fourche scripted later the week.
• 56:56
  Speaker 4: Go ahead, you know why before we leave, Because Stewart
• 56:59
  Speaker 4: Skinner is the greatest goalie ever created Yeah yeah Ah.
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  Speaker 2: The skin Man.
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