Latest / Earn Your Leisure / EYL #233 Larenz Tate on Black Hollywood, British Actors Taking Over Film, Finances, & Working with 50 Cent
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- 1:02Speaker 3: What are some of the challenges that people facing black
- 1:06Speaker 3: Hollywood as far as getting a movie produced or not
- 1:09Speaker 3: getting the same budget for their white counterparts, because I
- 1:13Speaker 3: don't think people have an appreciation of that.
- 1:16Speaker 4: Well, the very thing that those who are outside of
- 1:19Speaker 4: the Hollywood industry, that are in our community, that see
- 1:23Speaker 4: the challenges that we deal with every day as of people.
- 1:27Speaker 4: You know, we work twice as hard to get you know,
- 1:30Speaker 4: twice as less as our counterparts. Right, And that being said,
- 1:36Speaker 4: it's the same way we're not valued the way we
- 1:41Speaker 4: I believe we're supposed to be valued.
- 1:44Speaker 5: My graduates from my school being false. Back drop drop, Mike,
- 1:51Speaker 5: drop backdrop.
- 2:04Speaker 3: All right, guys, welcome back, e y l. We're back home,
- 2:08Speaker 3: back in New York. And this is a legendary episode
- 2:11Speaker 3: because you're a legend with us.
- 2:12Speaker 2: This is legendary. This is a generational talent.
- 2:15Speaker 3: Yes, so, Lorenz Tate, I think I first saw you
- 2:20Speaker 3: in Minutes to Society.
- 2:22Speaker 2: We gotta go back further than that.
- 2:24Speaker 1: What was further than that?
- 2:25Speaker 2: South Central? Oh wow?
- 2:28Speaker 1: Oh you know know what?
- 2:29Speaker 2: Okay, go ahead, Yeah, I'm gonna tell you why Ogbby
- 2:33Speaker 2: Johnson the show, not the movie.
- 2:36Speaker 4: But okay, y'all both are right. So there was a
- 2:38Speaker 4: movie called South Central well.
- 2:40Speaker 1: Og Bobby Johnson legend.
- 2:43Speaker 6: That was the legendary too.
- 2:45Speaker 4: But Menace actually did come before for the TV show.
- 2:49Speaker 4: The TV show was.
- 2:50Speaker 2: You know, I know, the TV show Mia Campbell. Ah, yeah,
- 2:55Speaker 2: he was one of my favorites. She was out to her.
- 3:00Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 3:00Speaker 3: So so Laurent's tate. Man, it's what was that twenty
- 3:04Speaker 3: five years ago? Thirty years eighty three? Yeah, we're getting older, bro, Yeah.
- 3:09Speaker 1: And he still looks like he's seventeen. He is.
- 3:13Speaker 3: So it is an illustrious career, not only acting, but
- 3:16Speaker 3: directing as well and entrepreneur. We talked about investing variety
- 3:22Speaker 3: of the day, your passion for financial literacy. I know
- 3:25Speaker 3: you're a big advocate for your hometown in Chicago, and
- 3:29Speaker 3: one of these people have just remained consistent. It's extremely
- 3:32Speaker 3: hard to remain consistent in anything, but especially in Hollywood.
- 3:35Speaker 1: Yes, we know that.
- 3:36Speaker 3: You know, there's trials and stribulations and a lot of
- 3:38Speaker 3: people you don't see anymore. So you know, to see
- 3:41Speaker 3: you even now shout out to fifty and the whole
- 3:44Speaker 3: Power franchise.
- 3:45Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, Yeah.
- 3:48Speaker 3: That's dope. So we're gonna have a really dope conversation.
- 3:50Speaker 3: But first and foremost, thank you for joining us, app.
- 3:52Speaker 6: Sure and listen.
- 3:53Speaker 4: I appreciate the one welcome and having me here. I'm
- 3:56Speaker 4: a huge fan of what y'all are doing. You know,
- 3:59Speaker 4: we saw each other in LA at the Essence Black
- 4:03Speaker 4: Women in Hollywood celebration and award show. I told y'all
- 4:07Speaker 4: was looking forward to come to New York and some
- 4:09Speaker 4: time with y'all. I've been watching y'all and truly loving
- 4:12Speaker 4: what you all are doing, you know, for the community
- 4:16Speaker 4: and for the culture. The way you all present, what
- 4:19Speaker 4: you present and what you represent is so relatable and
- 4:24Speaker 4: it's pallable, right because oftentimes when we think about, you know,
- 4:28Speaker 4: financial literacy or things with finances, it just feels like,
- 4:33Speaker 4: quite honestly, everything is sort of encrypted, right. It doesn't
- 4:38Speaker 4: feel like we can always understand it. And what y'all
- 4:42Speaker 4: have and what y'all do us just it's really clear,
- 4:47Speaker 4: you know what I mean. So it's a beautiful thing
- 4:50Speaker 4: to see two brothers doing what y'all doing. Y'all been
- 4:53Speaker 4: rocking together since y'all was you know, youngins.
- 4:57Speaker 6: It's just since venice.
- 5:00Speaker 7: Days and minutes like, oh oh man, you already don't
- 5:04Speaker 7: So I just want to give y'all brothers, y'all flowers and.
- 5:08Speaker 6: Salute to what you both are doing for all of
- 5:11Speaker 6: us in a culture.
- 5:12Speaker 2: So I appreciate that man likewise to you, especially when
- 5:15Speaker 2: we talk about all the accomplishments of actors, but specifically
- 5:18Speaker 2: black actors right right, the leading men right from like
- 5:22Speaker 2: you said, menus, we can't forget that president's being in
- 5:25Speaker 2: crash and now you know, being on TV with the
- 5:28Speaker 2: Power series, like you've been consistently a representation for us,
- 5:31Speaker 2: and there's never been any controversy with you. It's just
- 5:33Speaker 2: been like, yo, this is the guy right for a
- 5:35Speaker 2: long time. So we appreciate you well, Thank you man.
- 5:38Speaker 4: And I've been really fortunate to have a career that
- 5:41Speaker 4: has spanned it over the length of time. Y'all just
- 5:44Speaker 4: mentioned Minutes to Society, which was my first seature film
- 5:47Speaker 4: back in ninety three, and I can't believe that it's
- 5:51Speaker 4: thirty years. It's like, where did the time go?
- 5:55Speaker 2: Right?
- 5:56Speaker 4: And along the way, I've had some amazing life experiences.
- 6:00Speaker 4: There's been a lot of ups, there's been some downs,
- 6:04Speaker 4: uh highs and lows, But for me, I just always
- 6:07Speaker 4: wanted to do what I love to do and I
- 6:10Speaker 4: felt like it's a privilege. My mother and father always
- 6:14Speaker 4: said to me specific specifically, my father would tell my
- 6:17Speaker 4: brothers and I, you know, y'all are in this business
- 6:20Speaker 4: and whatever you do, you know, you you find your calling.
- 6:23Speaker 1: Right.
- 6:24Speaker 4: I understood what the assignment was and run the marathon
- 6:29Speaker 4: and not the sprint, and so I'm still in that
- 6:31Speaker 4: marathon and so now we're rocking.
- 6:34Speaker 2: It's crazy. I feel like you just got Darius love.
- 6:37Speaker 6: Oh yo, yo, you get I got some.
- 6:39Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 6:39Speaker 7: Every now and again, I'll fall in and out of
- 6:41Speaker 7: I might you you you might, You might get it.
- 6:43Speaker 6: You might get a little old dog in a minute.
- 6:46Speaker 7: You might get a little Anthony Curtis from Dead Presidents Life.
- 6:52Speaker 6: You mean life. You know what I'm saying.
- 6:53Speaker 4: So so there's you know what I'm saying. There might
- 6:56Speaker 4: be some highs and lows there.
- 6:58Speaker 6: I love it.
- 6:58Speaker 2: I love it, love it.
- 7:00Speaker 3: So let's get into this all right, financial literacy mistakes.
- 7:05Speaker 3: So we interviewed Steve Harvey. Legendary.
- 7:07Speaker 4: I love that interview, by the way, thank you. That
- 7:10Speaker 4: was like that was a legendary like interview. It was
- 7:14Speaker 4: so informative, it just was. It was amazing.
- 7:17Speaker 3: Thank you, Thank you, so one of the things that
- 7:19Speaker 3: he said was that, you know, there's really no blueprint
- 7:21Speaker 3: to follow in Hollywood. A lot of people make mistakes
- 7:24Speaker 3: as far as you know, having the manager, the agent,
- 7:27Speaker 3: the CPA, it's a lot to you know, keep track of,
- 7:30Speaker 3: and you know, you know where your money is going,
- 7:32Speaker 3: and you don't know what properly to invest in, then
- 7:34Speaker 3: you might not have a role for a while. And
- 7:36Speaker 3: I hear that from a lot of actors, like you
- 7:38Speaker 3: know that it's a very tough business because you might
- 7:42Speaker 3: be hot for a year and you might be cold
- 7:44Speaker 3: for two years. And so what was your experience, What
- 7:47Speaker 3: has your experience been in Hollywood? What are some of
- 7:50Speaker 3: the mistakes that you have probably made, and what are
- 7:52Speaker 3: some of the lessons that you've learned as far as
- 7:54Speaker 3: investing business, financial literacy.
- 7:57Speaker 4: Well, I'm glad you pointed that out. The truth of
- 8:00Speaker 4: the matter is there's a lot of you know, highs
- 8:03Speaker 4: and lows. There's gonna be dry seasons. You know, there's
- 8:06Speaker 4: gonna be times where you're super super hot, and there's
- 8:10Speaker 4: times where you're cold. And when you're cold in Hollywood,
- 8:13Speaker 4: especially as a black actor, it's real cold. You would
- 8:17Speaker 4: sometimes get be it sitting on that glacier in Antarctica,
- 8:21Speaker 4: you know.
- 8:23Speaker 6: It's cold, cold, And what happens is.
- 8:27Speaker 4: You know, we get a lot of money up front
- 8:29Speaker 4: sometimes depending on you know, where you are in your career.
- 8:32Speaker 4: So you get this money up front, but you're only
- 8:36Speaker 4: good as your last project.
- 8:38Speaker 6: So your value to the bottom line.
- 8:43Speaker 4: When you're dealing with networks or studios, it's like how
- 8:46Speaker 4: valuable are you? And sometimes if you're not that valuable anymore,
- 8:51Speaker 4: you're not bringing in the money.
- 8:53Speaker 6: But what happens is there's a lot of money going.
- 8:55Speaker 4: Out of the door, right, So you get this money,
- 8:59Speaker 4: and if you hit a time in your career where
- 9:03Speaker 4: the money is not you know, sustainable, it's not really
- 9:06Speaker 4: coming in, but everything is going outdoor. So you, as
- 9:08Speaker 4: you mentioned, you got agents, you got managers, you got
- 9:13Speaker 4: financial people that you have to pay.
- 9:16Speaker 6: You have lawyers you have to pay, right.
- 9:19Speaker 4: You have uh, let's say, if you have a team,
- 9:22Speaker 4: part me for like publicity and all that stuff and
- 9:26Speaker 4: all the things that come with creating an entity or
- 9:31Speaker 4: creating a commodity as a as an artist. So it's
- 9:35Speaker 4: a lot of money that's going out and let's not
- 9:37Speaker 4: forget the government, the like like.
- 9:41Speaker 6: Do you know what I saying?
- 9:42Speaker 1: You know the partner?
- 9:43Speaker 4: Yeah, man to sign a partner. If you don't do it,
- 9:46Speaker 4: they they stick you up. Right, They coming, look, they coming,
- 9:48Speaker 4: and they come and to knock at that door. And
- 9:50Speaker 4: so in my experience, I just kind of started out
- 9:55Speaker 4: because I started out early. I kind of had a
- 9:58Speaker 4: something set up a little differently. When I was making
- 10:02Speaker 4: money as a you know, minor, a portion of my
- 10:06Speaker 4: money had to go into a savings account, right, so
- 10:09Speaker 4: I couldn't get to the money until I was either
- 10:12Speaker 4: eighteen or twenty one. They automatically would put my money away.
- 10:17Speaker 4: So I was working. My first gig was in nineteen
- 10:21Speaker 4: eighty five. There was a remake of the TV show
- 10:25Speaker 4: The Twilight Zone. I was just watching this right right, right,
- 10:28Speaker 4: so the Twilight Zone. But I was just one of everybody.
- 10:30Speaker 4: I'm not in the Twilight Zone from the fifties and
- 10:33Speaker 4: the sixties. Okay, I'm not that old. They remade it
- 10:35Speaker 4: and I was ten, right yeah the time, right, So
- 10:38Speaker 4: I was about ten years old and it was my first.
- 10:42Speaker 6: Professional paid gig.
- 10:43Speaker 4: I want to say maybe it was five hundred bucks,
- 10:46Speaker 4: but because I'm a minor, the money had to go
- 10:49Speaker 4: right into a savings account basically a trust if you will,
- 10:53Speaker 4: and that set up by set up. They just do
- 10:56Speaker 4: that legally, you know, when you're a minor, right, we have.
- 10:58Speaker 2: The stories of like a gar Coleman where it was
- 11:01Speaker 2: a little different face.
- 11:01Speaker 4: Well, because they have they also not all of the money,
- 11:04Speaker 4: so a portion of it.
- 11:05Speaker 6: Let me be clear about that.
- 11:06Speaker 4: A portion of the money goes into account of however
- 11:10Speaker 4: you get paid because you're a minor.
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- 11:49Speaker 4: Now, But then the more money you make. So let's
- 11:54Speaker 4: say if you are a child star. I wasn't a
- 11:56Speaker 4: big child, so I was just working here and there,
- 11:58Speaker 4: So I wasn't making a lot of money at that time.
- 12:01Speaker 4: And so what happens often is when you make a
- 12:05Speaker 4: lot of money in your career, you've never made a
- 12:06Speaker 4: lot of money before, you have handlers, sometimes the people
- 12:09Speaker 4: in your family. Sometimes it's people who are outside of
- 12:12Speaker 4: your family and they have access to that money. But
- 12:16Speaker 4: if you're a minor, what do you know, You're not
- 12:19Speaker 4: learning this in school right because you're being paid like
- 12:22Speaker 4: an adult. So it gets, you know, it can get
- 12:25Speaker 4: a little funny.
- 12:26Speaker 1: For me.
- 12:27Speaker 6: My parents never touch my money.
- 12:29Speaker 4: They just made sure that it was you know, anytime
- 12:33Speaker 4: I work on a little project, a guest star here,
- 12:35Speaker 4: a little bit of this, a little bit of that,
- 12:37Speaker 4: make sure that that money go and you know I
- 12:40Speaker 4: would have to pay taxes and all that stuff as
- 12:43Speaker 4: a kid because of anyway, by the time I got
- 12:46Speaker 4: roles on like you know, Fresh Prince of bel Air,
- 12:50Speaker 4: I did a guest star there, whether the family matters,
- 12:52Speaker 4: still making a little bit of money. When I did
- 12:56Speaker 4: my first film, which was Minister Society, didn't make a
- 12:59Speaker 4: whole lot of money, but I was still a minor.
- 13:01Speaker 4: I was seventeen when I played Old Doll. Still a minor, right,
- 13:06Speaker 4: so all of my money was still going. So by
- 13:08Speaker 4: the time I was eighteen, there was a nice little
- 13:12Speaker 4: money set aside for me, and for me, I just
- 13:16Speaker 4: did not want to spend my money on all the
- 13:18Speaker 4: things I saw the people around me spending their money on.
- 13:22Speaker 4: I was like, I would save this just because now
- 13:24Speaker 4: I have access to it.
- 13:26Speaker 6: I just didn't want to, you know, trick it off.
- 13:28Speaker 4: And the more I, you know, developed a career where
- 13:33Speaker 4: I command a little bit more money, I kept that
- 13:36Speaker 4: same mentality, made sure I paid the taxes, and I
- 13:39Speaker 4: just always just saved the money. I was not spending
- 13:43Speaker 4: money on you know, very expensive cars. I didn't spend
- 13:47Speaker 4: money on jewelry that wasn't for me, and I felt
- 13:52Speaker 4: like I didn't need it necessarily, right, I just need
- 13:55Speaker 4: the basic essentials. And the one thing I'm happy of
- 14:00Speaker 4: is because when there were times where I hadn't been working,
- 14:03Speaker 4: I wasn't doing a couple you know, those movies, or
- 14:05Speaker 4: I wasn't doing a TV show like South Central. At
- 14:07Speaker 4: that time, I was about eighteen or nineteen I had
- 14:11Speaker 4: a way to be able to still take care of
- 14:13Speaker 4: myself because I was out of the house from underneath
- 14:17Speaker 4: my parents roof. When I was about sixteen or seventeen,
- 14:21Speaker 4: my brothers and I got a place together. My brothers
- 14:23Speaker 4: were making money. They were, you know, in the business,
- 14:25Speaker 4: Lamar and Laurn acting, and you know Laurn, who's our
- 14:29Speaker 4: oldest brother. He started writing and started getting writing gigs,
- 14:33Speaker 4: and Lamar was working. So I was sixteen seventeen living
- 14:36Speaker 4: with my brothers and my parents allowed them to be
- 14:40Speaker 4: like my guardians.
- 14:41Speaker 2: So you're not this is in La. This is in
- 14:43Speaker 2: La Chicago seventeen.
- 14:46Speaker 6: Yeah. Yeah, I went to Chicago early.
- 14:48Speaker 4: So when I was not living in Chicago, when I
- 14:51Speaker 4: was back in eighty five.
- 14:52Speaker 6: At that point we were in La.
- 14:54Speaker 4: My father was going to school to get his another
- 14:57Speaker 4: degree at USC and so my mother felt like her
- 15:00Speaker 4: three sons needed to be close to their dad because
- 15:02Speaker 4: we were away from him.
- 15:03Speaker 6: For a couple of years.
- 15:04Speaker 4: And you know, the neighborhood started changing on the West
- 15:07Speaker 4: Side of Chicago, and she wanted to make sure that
- 15:09Speaker 4: we weren't a product of our environment.
- 15:11Speaker 6: And an interesting story how we even got.
- 15:13Speaker 4: Into the Hollywood game or the industry is that she
- 15:18Speaker 4: wanted us to spend more time. So we decided to
- 15:22Speaker 4: relocated us to LA. But we didn't feel like we
- 15:25Speaker 4: really fit in, and we went from one sort of
- 15:29Speaker 4: hood to the duck to the decks. But we thought
- 15:33Speaker 4: like California was like palm trees and you know, yeah,
- 15:37Speaker 4: living living nice. But listen, they were they ain't nothing
- 15:39Speaker 4: sweet about them.
- 15:40Speaker 6: You know those neighborhoods.
- 15:42Speaker 1: Where'd you move to in l A U? Right?
- 15:45Speaker 6: Where do we move? We moved right on West LA.
- 15:48Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying.
- 15:49Speaker 4: I was like on a cusp of uh West LA
- 15:53Speaker 4: where there was some pockets of the community that started changing.
- 15:57Speaker 4: We thought it was nice, and it was like, what
- 16:00Speaker 4: is with this big gangs over here?
- 16:02Speaker 6: They thrown up? They talks again, Yeah they yeah, they throwed.
- 16:06Speaker 4: And it was crazy because we would uh when we
- 16:08Speaker 4: came from Chicago, we didn't understand like colors was the thing.
- 16:11Speaker 6: So if you win all that red or you went
- 16:15Speaker 6: all blue, it's like, wait a minute.
- 16:16Speaker 4: We were so confused by it, all right, And so
- 16:19Speaker 4: my father and my mother was like, y'all not gonna
- 16:22Speaker 4: get caught up in this. So my father got us
- 16:24Speaker 4: involved with a performing arts school called Inner City Cultural Center,
- 16:28Speaker 4: and it kind of allowed us to kind of get
- 16:31Speaker 4: away from that during the summertimes or like weekends, and
- 16:34Speaker 4: it was really nice.
- 16:35Speaker 6: Because we were able to do theater, music, dance.
- 16:39Speaker 4: It was like a real cultural thing black artists, and
- 16:42Speaker 4: I'm happy that that happened.
- 16:45Speaker 6: Along the way, they always made sure that we went
- 16:49Speaker 6: back to Chicago.
- 16:50Speaker 4: They was like, y'all going to go home and spend
- 16:52Speaker 4: time with your grandmother and your and your family, your
- 16:54Speaker 4: cousins and and uncles and aunts every summer. So we
- 16:58Speaker 4: spent a lot of our summers in Chicago where I
- 17:01Speaker 4: really started, you know, you know, your first girlfriend, you know,
- 17:06Speaker 4: all those those elements in the neighborhood was still changing,
- 17:10Speaker 4: right and I was able to see some real things happening.
- 17:14Speaker 4: So going bouncing back from LA to Chicago, I was
- 17:19Speaker 4: able to see some real interesting things.
- 17:21Speaker 6: By the time I got to do.
- 17:22Speaker 4: Old Dog, I was very clear of what the assignment was,
- 17:26Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying without dressing it, I was like,
- 17:28Speaker 4: I know what this is.
- 17:29Speaker 6: I've seen I've seen this.
- 17:31Speaker 7: Say.
- 17:31Speaker 6: Let's let me just give it. Just give you the script.
- 17:33Speaker 6: I got it.
- 17:34Speaker 4: I'll flip it but getting back to the money side
- 17:38Speaker 4: of things again, I just always wanted to, you know,
- 17:41Speaker 4: find ways to save I got to a point, you
- 17:45Speaker 4: know where after you know, Dead Presidents and and Love
- 17:51Speaker 4: Jones and while Foods Fall in Love, I made some
- 17:54Speaker 4: really good money.
- 17:55Speaker 2: Are those the films where you start negotiating your own
- 17:57Speaker 2: contracts finding out what you're worth in Hollywood?
- 17:59Speaker 6: Absolute?
- 18:00Speaker 2: Right, because like there was obviously Manisters was great, and
- 18:03Speaker 2: I feel it was Dead Presidence was ink Well in between.
- 18:06Speaker 4: Yeah, so it went it was min of Society, the
- 18:09Speaker 4: ink Well, Dead Presidents, uh, Love Jones and then.
- 18:16Speaker 2: Yeah, and so like at that point after they saw
- 18:19Speaker 2: the successful it, which which is the film that you're like,
- 18:21Speaker 2: all right, now I know what I'm my worth is.
- 18:24Speaker 2: Here's what I'm negotiating for this film.
- 18:26Speaker 4: It's probably Love Jones, Okay, because at that time I
- 18:31Speaker 4: had some success with the other films, and I knew
- 18:36Speaker 4: that I could have some more negotiating power to be
- 18:39Speaker 4: able to get the kind of money that I felt
- 18:42Speaker 4: was necessary for me to have. And you know, I
- 18:46Speaker 4: remember talking to the president of new Line Centerment at
- 18:50Speaker 4: the time, Mike de Luca. He I was telling him like, oh,
- 18:54Speaker 4: I think I should get this amount of money, and
- 18:57Speaker 4: he thought I was out pricing myself.
- 18:59Speaker 6: He was like, you know, I don't think you can.
- 19:03Speaker 6: That's not what.
- 19:03Speaker 2: We're going to do.
- 19:04Speaker 4: And I was like, nah, I think I want to.
- 19:06Speaker 4: I think I deserve it, you know what I mean.
- 19:08Speaker 4: I'm gonna come in, I'm going to do the work
- 19:09Speaker 4: and we'll be okay. And he was like, honestly, you know,
- 19:14Speaker 4: I would love to give you that number, but we
- 19:17Speaker 4: just don't. It's just it's just not in the budget
- 19:19Speaker 4: because that film was not a big budget movie, so
- 19:22Speaker 4: this wasn't a huge studio film. But I knew how
- 19:25Speaker 4: important it was. So I told him a number and
- 19:28Speaker 4: we settled on that, and my agents you know, negotiated
- 19:31Speaker 4: it at that point, and you know, we were cool.
- 19:34Speaker 4: But I then understood by the time I had gone
- 19:37Speaker 4: to other projects, you know, sometimes you would take either
- 19:41Speaker 4: a pay cut because of the project it's significant enough
- 19:45Speaker 4: for you to just you know, to be a part
- 19:46Speaker 4: of it.
- 19:47Speaker 6: You know, you want to do things for the culture
- 19:48Speaker 6: or whatever it is, or things that speaks to you.
- 19:50Speaker 4: From my standpoint, then you know, by the time I
- 19:54Speaker 4: got to h negotiate White the Food's Fall in Love
- 19:57Speaker 4: to play Frankie Liman. You know, I knew they had
- 19:59Speaker 4: a little bit on money. So each film or each
- 20:03Speaker 4: project you do, you would hope to have a bump,
- 20:06Speaker 4: so you want to get a little increase in pay,
- 20:08Speaker 4: and I was able to do so with that. And
- 20:11Speaker 4: there's a million different ways to create contracts or you know,
- 20:18Speaker 4: negotiate things. And if you have value, it's really great.
- 20:22Speaker 4: I mentioned before, you're good as your last project. So
- 20:26Speaker 4: studios and networks are like bottom line, they're really it's
- 20:29Speaker 4: about the business side of things, which oftentimes we as
- 20:33Speaker 4: black actors are not as valuable, or at least we're
- 20:37Speaker 4: told we're not as valuable as our white counterparts. And
- 20:41Speaker 4: that's been something historically that's you know, we've been fighting
- 20:44Speaker 4: against for so long Black men and particularly black women,
- 20:49Speaker 4: we don't get what we deserve. And so I understood
- 20:54Speaker 4: a few things along the way in negotiating. I oftentimes
- 20:59Speaker 4: found my self saying, okay, I know about back in.
- 21:02Speaker 4: I know about basically what would be royalties, So you
- 21:06Speaker 4: want to have back in participation, so you would negotiate
- 21:10Speaker 4: a fee up front, But when the movie goes to theaters,
- 21:15Speaker 4: there's where the real participation.
- 21:18Speaker 6: The ownership comes in.
- 21:21Speaker 4: And all the time I would think about, like what
- 21:25Speaker 4: about international, because I know some of these movies go
- 21:27Speaker 4: overseas and they would always say to me my entire career,
- 21:35Speaker 4: no overseas, only domestic.
- 21:37Speaker 6: You have there is there are no.
- 21:41Speaker 4: Deal points for international, And I would think why not?
- 21:47Speaker 4: And it was said that black people don't sell overseas,
- 21:52Speaker 4: meaning it's only at the time they would say, it's
- 21:55Speaker 4: only like one person, Will Smith, because I think he
- 21:58Speaker 4: had done like Independence Day, right, or Denzel Washington No,
- 22:02Speaker 4: excuse me, I take that back, Wesley Snipes because he
- 22:05Speaker 4: would do all those action films that they would sell
- 22:07Speaker 4: over there. So they were the only two people Denzel's
- 22:11Speaker 4: you know, sort of later, but it was like Will
- 22:14Speaker 4: Smith and Wesley Snipes that were the ones who really
- 22:18Speaker 4: commanded that box office domestic and international free, you know
- 22:25Speaker 4: what I mean to get that to get the bag
- 22:27Speaker 4: here and over there and get all the back in right.
- 22:30Speaker 4: And I would go to, you know, overseas, I would
- 22:34Speaker 4: travel and I would think like no one knew who
- 22:35Speaker 4: I was because they said we weren't valuable over there,
- 22:38Speaker 4: like our movies don't do well, they don't sell them there.
- 22:40Speaker 6: But that was not the truth.
- 22:43Speaker 4: When you start traveling, you start saying, wait a minute,
- 22:45Speaker 4: I can't walk down the street and everybody knows.
- 22:48Speaker 6: The words to you know, my dialogue, to.
- 22:52Speaker 4: My films, but they don't even speak English, but they
- 22:54Speaker 4: know how to say, you know what you say about
- 22:57Speaker 4: my mama?
- 22:57Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
- 22:58Speaker 6: They know you know what I mean?
- 23:00Speaker 7: You know they know this stuff right, And so I'm
- 23:03Speaker 7: thinking aboutself. Something has to be off with that. And
- 23:10Speaker 7: so I discover that only certain people could get that
- 23:14Speaker 7: international back end, you know, participation, and how understood how
- 23:20Speaker 7: important that was because I was saying, well, where's the
- 23:23Speaker 7: back end participation going to?
- 23:24Speaker 4: Where's the people getting all those royalties? It was the
- 23:26Speaker 4: studios and the producers. That is one of the things
- 23:32Speaker 4: that I learned. Oh, you don't want to give up
- 23:35Speaker 4: half of that and share that with me, because that's
- 23:37Speaker 4: generational wealth. You ain't gonna split that with me. You
- 23:41Speaker 4: give me enough to make me happy up front. But
- 23:45Speaker 4: when I hit that coal or Antarctica and I'm hitting
- 23:49Speaker 4: that glacier and I'm not getting those movies and I'm
- 23:52Speaker 4: not getting that deals, those residuals are important to me
- 23:56Speaker 4: to sustain my lifestyle. Or to sustain the things I
- 23:59Speaker 4: want to do. I want to send my children to college.
- 24:00Speaker 4: I want to give, you know, some opportunities for them
- 24:02Speaker 4: to start a business or whatever that is. I can't
- 24:04Speaker 4: do that. But those producers in those networks are those
- 24:08Speaker 4: studio heads. They got that locked down.
- 24:09Speaker 2: So at the time I'm trying to think, as you're
- 24:12Speaker 2: coming up, nobody's putting you onto the game, right, because
- 24:16Speaker 2: there are black actors like you mentioned this, Denzels Wesley,
- 24:19Speaker 2: I'm thinking Omar absolutely, said Samuel Jackson, Spike Lee's directing
- 24:25Speaker 2: at this time, even Cuba Gooding sure, like is anybody
- 24:30Speaker 2: away of this or is this?
- 24:32Speaker 4: Im sure they are, But a lot of the information
- 24:34Speaker 4: is not being passed around, right, And if the information
- 24:39Speaker 4: is being passed around, we don't know how to utilize it.
- 24:43Speaker 4: And I think that was part of one of the
- 24:45Speaker 4: things when you say the mistakes, like I didn't know
- 24:48Speaker 4: you know, how to like I didn't really understand, like
- 24:52Speaker 4: how could I negotiate that? But the argument would be
- 24:56Speaker 4: what does your last movie do? So now you're basing
- 25:01Speaker 4: it off that what did your last movie do? And
- 25:03Speaker 4: some things when it comes to films that are in
- 25:06Speaker 4: the box office, success may have nothing to do with
- 25:08Speaker 4: you at all. I might say, well, Love Jones didn't
- 25:11Speaker 4: do the numbers that they wanted to do in the
- 25:14Speaker 4: box office, you know, from a financial standpoint, but it
- 25:18Speaker 4: meant something to the culture.
- 25:19Speaker 1: Cultural.
- 25:20Speaker 3: So can you ask you this, As far as you've
- 25:21Speaker 3: been in the game for thirty years streaming, how has
- 25:25Speaker 3: you Because I feel like everything has changed and I
- 25:29Speaker 3: remember when going to the movies was a big deal. Sure,
- 25:31Speaker 3: nobody really goes to the movies like that. I mean,
- 25:33Speaker 3: some movies still doing well in the box office, but
- 25:35Speaker 3: now everything is on Netflix straight to you know, streaming services.
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- 29:01Speaker 3: Even movies that have you know, like coming to America too,
- 29:04Speaker 3: where it is direct on one streaming service. Right, how
- 29:08Speaker 3: has that transition been like, just to observe it, how
- 29:11Speaker 3: has that affected Hollywood as far as the actors going
- 29:15Speaker 3: from big box office productions to movies that are tailor
- 29:19Speaker 3: made for Netflix and Amazon Prime.
- 29:21Speaker 6: I guys, you asked that.
- 29:22Speaker 4: It's a really good question, and it did affect us
- 29:26Speaker 4: because when we would negotiate points, you know, we was
- 29:31Speaker 4: really banking on the box office success, and once the
- 29:36Speaker 4: switch happened, we didn't really understand. No one understood what
- 29:41Speaker 4: that would look like and how these deals will be
- 29:44Speaker 4: put together. And now that's sort of the sort of staple.
- 29:49Speaker 4: Most people are watching things at their leisure on their
- 29:56Speaker 4: phones or at home streaming, and so you negotiate points
- 30:00Speaker 4: you know, back, and you know, you get whatever you're
- 30:02Speaker 4: going to get up front. And depending on what that
- 30:05Speaker 4: streaming service is, it's sort of determed. It can kind
- 30:09Speaker 4: of vary of what your deal could look like.
- 30:12Speaker 3: Do you think that it's hurt Do you think that
- 30:14Speaker 3: it has hurt the mystique of being that because growing up,
- 30:18Speaker 3: like going to the movies was such a big thing
- 30:19Speaker 3: and it was such it was such a big deal,
- 30:23Speaker 3: and now it feels like it's become less of that
- 30:26Speaker 3: because there's so much content out Like it's like music, right,
- 30:29Speaker 3: Like going to buy the album used to mean a lot,
- 30:32Speaker 3: and now there's so much music on Apple Music. That
- 30:34Speaker 3: Little Baby puts an album out, but then twenty one
- 30:37Speaker 3: puts an album out, and then Drake puts it in.
- 30:38Speaker 1: It's just it kind of gets lost to me.
- 30:40Speaker 6: I feel like, I agree, it is sensory overload.
- 30:44Speaker 4: There's so much content out there, but you know, I
- 30:49Speaker 4: can't complain about it.
- 30:50Speaker 6: It's just what it is. It's nothing that we can
- 30:52Speaker 6: do to change it.
- 30:53Speaker 4: So you have to adjust and pivot and find a
- 30:55Speaker 4: way to be a part of it. So as opposed
- 30:58Speaker 4: to standing on the sidelines looking at the industry, change
- 31:02Speaker 4: and progress and evolve, jump in, you know, get involved
- 31:06Speaker 4: with the streaming services. Get involved with you know, podcast
- 31:10Speaker 4: or digital, get involved with you know, content that you
- 31:14Speaker 4: know you could be a part of and still be
- 31:17Speaker 4: able to make a living and do what you want
- 31:20Speaker 4: to do and love to do. And in some cases
- 31:23Speaker 4: it's okay to go with a streaming service for a
- 31:27Speaker 4: film or concept because there's no pressure of the box office,
- 31:32Speaker 4: so I start looking at it from that standpoint. There's
- 31:35Speaker 4: a demand for the content, and they're subscription driven. So
- 31:42Speaker 4: if I can help my movies that are on these
- 31:45Speaker 4: platforms can help subscribers, you know, tune in, then great.
- 31:49Speaker 4: For instance, you know we mentioned Power and the whole
- 31:53Speaker 4: Power universe. Shout out to fifty and Courtney Kemp and
- 31:56Speaker 4: everybody who's a part of that, Mark Canton, who are
- 32:00Speaker 4: behind you know, this incredible, huge show right that's you know,
- 32:07Speaker 4: on a premium network being Stars. Whereas like, you know,
- 32:13Speaker 4: subscription is crazy like that our show is a flag
- 32:18Speaker 4: ship show, Like it's driving a lot of subscriptions there
- 32:23Speaker 4: right in which we want to continue. And so there's
- 32:27Speaker 4: a lot of business to be done in that space.
- 32:31Speaker 4: And creatively, I think sometimes some of the better stuff
- 32:36Speaker 4: is actually on these streaming services, especially when it comes
- 32:40Speaker 4: to TV and TV series because you now can sort
- 32:43Speaker 4: of live with these characters. You can live with these stories, right,
- 32:46Speaker 4: and you get really lean into it. You don't have
- 32:49Speaker 4: to try to wrap everything up in a bow that
- 32:53Speaker 4: you might do in a movie. But I still think
- 32:55Speaker 4: that the box office is still very viable, you know
- 32:58Speaker 4: what I mean. And because they're they're the studios and
- 33:01Speaker 4: the networks are getting money from the subscriptions and they
- 33:04Speaker 4: can put movies in the theaters. It's the house never loses.
- 33:10Speaker 4: The house is always going to win. It's like Vegas,
- 33:12Speaker 4: You'll find a way to win. So, you know, for me,
- 33:15Speaker 4: I think it's a great combination of both.
- 33:18Speaker 2: So when you talked about having a cold spell, this
- 33:21Speaker 2: pervial Siberia. For actors, I'm plenty of them go through
- 33:24Speaker 2: this at some point in their career. What are you
- 33:27Speaker 2: doing in that all time? Is this the time now
- 33:29Speaker 2: when you're creating? Are you investing? Are you saying like
- 33:32Speaker 2: maybe I'll start writing and what are the things that
- 33:35Speaker 2: are happening during this time when it's a colad spell?
- 33:37Speaker 6: Another very good question for me. I'm not sitting tight,
- 33:40Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying.
- 33:40Speaker 4: I got a wife and four children, right, I got
- 33:42Speaker 4: four sons, man and I got to you know, and
- 33:44Speaker 4: be prior to me even being married and having children.
- 33:50Speaker 4: My brothers and I will put our heads together, we
- 33:51Speaker 4: will huddle up and figure out, like how we gonna
- 33:53Speaker 4: get this money? Right, So we have to write, we
- 33:56Speaker 4: have to produce, we have to be a part of
- 33:59Speaker 4: telling our own stories in our narrative right, and there
- 34:02Speaker 4: needs to be other outlets. So again, where we are today,
- 34:06Speaker 4: we just have more opportunities, We have more outlets, so there's.
- 34:10Speaker 6: Really no excuses.
- 34:11Speaker 4: But there were times where it's like, man, how do
- 34:13Speaker 4: we how do we get this money? I'm gonna be
- 34:16Speaker 4: very honest. A lot of those things is because you
- 34:18Speaker 4: have value and your face card is right. You can
- 34:21Speaker 4: do appearances. You can sit and you know, some people
- 34:24Speaker 4: can show up and you know, sign autographs.
- 34:26Speaker 6: Other people can go and either.
- 34:29Speaker 4: Write a book, book tours, or you can actually find
- 34:32Speaker 4: ways in speaking engagements because your time is of value.
- 34:37Speaker 4: The fact that you have something to say, people will
- 34:39Speaker 4: come and so you find situations where people want you
- 34:44Speaker 4: to come to there, you know, events, if there's a
- 34:48Speaker 4: corporate situation where they feel like it would attract the
- 34:52Speaker 4: eyes and the ears of the people that they're targeting there,
- 34:56Speaker 4: certainly will will bring you in and you can find
- 34:58Speaker 4: a way to hustle that way. For me, it was
- 35:00Speaker 4: like always get something. My father would always say, oatmeal
- 35:05Speaker 4: is better than no meal.
- 35:06Speaker 6: Get it. You got to eat, you know what I'm saying.
- 35:08Speaker 1: So let me ask you this Black Hollywood.
- 35:10Speaker 3: And We've been spending a lot of time in Black Hollywood,
- 35:13Speaker 3: so I'm hearing a lot of the same stories told,
- 35:16Speaker 3: like it's very tough, it's difficult, the budgets are not
- 35:19Speaker 3: the same. And you know a lot of people saying
- 35:21Speaker 3: the same thing for the outside people that's not in
- 35:25Speaker 3: that cluster, and they don't understand, like, what are some
- 35:28Speaker 3: of the challenges that people facing Black Hollywood as far
- 35:33Speaker 3: as getting a movie produced or not getting the same
- 35:36Speaker 3: budget for their white counterparts, because I don't think people
- 35:39Speaker 3: have an appreciation of that.
- 35:42Speaker 4: Well, the very thing that those who are outside of
- 35:45Speaker 4: the Hollywood industry that are in our community, that see
- 35:49Speaker 4: the challenges that we deal with every day as of people.
- 35:53Speaker 4: You know, we work twice as hard to get you know,
- 35:56Speaker 4: twice as less as our counterparts, right, and that being said,
- 36:02Speaker 4: it is the same way we're not valued the way
- 36:06Speaker 4: we I believe we supposed to be valued. So those
- 36:09Speaker 4: budgets are really important for us so that we can
- 36:13Speaker 4: have the kind of quality that we can present to
- 36:17Speaker 4: the consumer. And the smaller the budget, the more creative
- 36:22Speaker 4: you have to get. And we don't have resources off
- 36:26Speaker 4: oftentimes as our white counterparts. The real deal is we
- 36:31Speaker 4: don't own any platforms the way we should. There's a
- 36:36Speaker 4: few black owned platforms, but we don't have a lot
- 36:39Speaker 4: of outlets. We don't have as many, so we're not
- 36:44Speaker 4: sort of governing over these entities or these corporations to say, hey,
- 36:52Speaker 4: you guys have a great story, y'all want to tell it,
- 36:54Speaker 4: and there's money to be made, come here.
- 36:58Speaker 6: It's not as many.
- 37:00Speaker 4: So when we do find that those places, everybody's trying
- 37:06Speaker 4: to go through one keyhole. Everybody's trying to go through
- 37:08Speaker 4: one tunnel.
- 37:10Speaker 6: And even when you.
- 37:10Speaker 4: Go to non black owned places, they'll tell you to
- 37:14Speaker 4: go over there because you know, they have to find
- 37:18Speaker 4: value in what we do.
- 37:20Speaker 6: And that's changing quite a bit as we're you know.
- 37:23Speaker 4: Making it very clear and we're loud about it because
- 37:27Speaker 4: we have to that. I always say, and I talk
- 37:31Speaker 4: to execs in the industry in Hollywood that either look
- 37:34Speaker 4: like us, and particularly the ones who are not from
- 37:36Speaker 4: the black community. I tell people all the time, we're
- 37:39Speaker 4: not looking for handouts. We're not asking for any favors.
- 37:43Speaker 4: Black folks have earned the right to have the things
- 37:47Speaker 4: that we believe, right from what we've contributed in front
- 37:52Speaker 4: of the camera, what we've done behind the camera, the
- 37:54Speaker 4: things that we have done and changed the narratives and
- 37:58Speaker 4: we've taken the we've been able to do so much,
- 38:03Speaker 4: and we've made y'all a lot of money ten times,
- 38:07Speaker 4: one hundred times over in a real way. But also
- 38:12Speaker 4: the consumers black communities, black people support all movies, right,
- 38:21Speaker 4: so we have earned that. We have earned the right
- 38:25Speaker 4: to be at the table. We earned the right to
- 38:30Speaker 4: have the you know, decision making power. And oftentimes in Hollywood,
- 38:37Speaker 4: historically black folks don't govern over anything. We're in front
- 38:41Speaker 4: of the camera and it looks good. Give Black folks enough,
- 38:44Speaker 4: you know, to keep them quiet, but not enough to
- 38:47Speaker 4: make them a real difference or have a real impact
- 38:51Speaker 4: on the other side of things. And we want to
- 38:53Speaker 4: change that, you know, we don't want to just have
- 38:56Speaker 4: enough to keep us quiet but really not make a difference.
- 38:59Speaker 4: We're trying to really do something here, and we've earned
- 39:03Speaker 4: it on both sides. So now we have black entrepreneurs
- 39:07Speaker 4: and I don't mean to cut you off. Now we
- 39:09Speaker 4: have black entrepreneurs or black you know, companies that recognize that,
- 39:13Speaker 4: and they Hollywood has had to come together and be
- 39:17Speaker 4: a part of sort of you know, uh, the movement,
- 39:21Speaker 4: and because they understand, we bring a lot of money.
- 39:24Speaker 6: So you look at this, it's like, look at Black Panther.
- 39:26Speaker 2: That's That's where I was going, because what you're saying
- 39:30Speaker 2: is it takes for a black Panther and a right
- 39:32Speaker 2: Coogle to do that a billion dollar movie, do it again,
- 39:36Speaker 2: another billion dollar success on this way. And then you
- 39:38Speaker 2: hear like what Disney has a divisional Onyx and that
- 39:41Speaker 2: was focusing on black creators. And so I wonder if
- 39:44Speaker 2: I mean, it seems like it's a timing thing, right
- 39:47Speaker 2: even now, like you said, there's a cold time, but
- 39:50Speaker 2: now it's hot. It's a hot thing, and it's a topic.
- 39:54Speaker 6: It's a topic, right, and so now it.
- 39:56Speaker 2: Brings more creatives. But having just honest isn't enough, right.
- 40:00Speaker 2: I was going to the next point was like, heyman, yeah,
- 40:04Speaker 2: like exactly this Now this develops and it's like you've
- 40:06Speaker 2: been working for now. The timing of it makes sense.
- 40:08Speaker 4: I mean yeah, because now we have executives who are
- 40:11Speaker 4: in these places now that are you know, the heads
- 40:14Speaker 4: of production in their heads of these companies and entertainment
- 40:19Speaker 4: companies that when I walk into a room, they understand
- 40:24Speaker 4: and it's not something that I have to you know,
- 40:27Speaker 4: beat them over the head about, like Okay, they get it.
- 40:29Speaker 4: And I'm not going to bring anything that's mediocre. I'm mean,
- 40:32Speaker 4: really believe I bring something that's quality or I won't
- 40:34Speaker 4: bring it at all. Right, But you mentioned Tapment Entertainment,
- 40:38Speaker 4: which is a production company, entertainment company that my brothers
- 40:41Speaker 4: Laarn and Lamar and I decided to put together years ago.
- 40:44Speaker 6: And we've had some cool deals.
- 40:46Speaker 4: You know, they'll go and give you a housing deal,
- 40:48Speaker 4: make sure that you're cool, make me pay you some money,
- 40:50Speaker 4: take care of you. But it's like, Okay, it's great
- 40:53Speaker 4: to be in there, and it's great to get a
- 40:54Speaker 4: little bit of that money. But we want to get
- 40:55Speaker 4: the product out there. We want to be able to
- 40:57Speaker 4: get the stories told. We want to be able to
- 41:00Speaker 4: make sure that the voices of the voiceless can be
- 41:03Speaker 4: heard and if we are those you know, the pathway,
- 41:07Speaker 4: and we're the conduits to do that. Then we really
- 41:10Speaker 4: need to see those who are like minded and understand
- 41:14Speaker 4: the bigger overall picture. And we want equity. It's more
- 41:18Speaker 4: than just you know, getting a project off the ground.
- 41:20Speaker 4: We want some ownership. And as we do business with
- 41:23Speaker 4: other you know, black entities, quality, you know, we're looking
- 41:28Speaker 4: for quality. We team up with the quality. We want
- 41:31Speaker 4: equity because that's what it's about. It is a business.
- 41:35Speaker 4: And so the fact that we recognize more of the business.
- 41:39Speaker 4: We walk into the rooms and we are aren't we
- 41:44Speaker 4: we we we know what we're doing.
- 41:46Speaker 2: I thought, oh, dog was gonna come out, he's gonna
- 41:47Speaker 2: say we're on our ship.
- 41:49Speaker 6: I was about to we're about.
- 41:52Speaker 3: It's been a pleasure, my brother. Anything that you want
- 41:56Speaker 3: to make the public aware of any new projects, of
- 41:58Speaker 3: course you know your power, but anything you're working on.
- 42:02Speaker 4: Yeah, I want to talk about obviously Power Ghosts season three,
- 42:06Speaker 4: that's out, that's covered out.
- 42:08Speaker 6: It's going to be an incredible season. Coun Yes, counselman,
- 42:11Speaker 6: Rash tell you that's a connection.
- 42:14Speaker 4: And you know, can't give too much away, but I
- 42:16Speaker 4: can't say that we've elevated some things. We're definitely gonna
- 42:20Speaker 4: you know, see counselman tape up to his Shenanigan got
- 42:24Speaker 4: to do that.
- 42:24Speaker 1: It wouldn't be.
- 42:25Speaker 7: You know, there's gonna be some ud. Yeah, it's a
- 42:29Speaker 7: backdoor deals, it's a you know, the nonsense going on.
- 42:33Speaker 7: And no, I'm excited about it. It's it's it's a
- 42:36Speaker 7: it's a.
- 42:36Speaker 4: Great body will be sacrificed, absolutely mandatory, it has to happen.
- 42:42Speaker 4: But I'm excited about this season and what the whole
- 42:45Speaker 4: Power Universe is representing. What else we got We my
- 42:49Speaker 4: brothers and I actually are working on a docu series
- 42:52Speaker 4: about social injustice, about the marginalization of specifically black people,
- 42:56Speaker 4: and we are filmed it in Chicago, right We've been
- 42:59Speaker 4: working on the West Side and the South Side Chicago,
- 43:02Speaker 4: really just showing, you know, why some of the things
- 43:05Speaker 4: are happening, but beyond why are the things happening in
- 43:08Speaker 4: terms of the marginalization of us and our community, what
- 43:12Speaker 4: are the solutions? And we are trying to create something
- 43:16Speaker 4: that allows the people who are going through what they're
- 43:19Speaker 4: going through to come up with the solutions. Oftentimes there's
- 43:21Speaker 4: people who are behind the scenes or off to the side,
- 43:24Speaker 4: who is not even we're not even from the community
- 43:26Speaker 4: deciding what is best for those who are dealing with
- 43:29Speaker 4: the deal with it. But guess who knows the people
- 43:31Speaker 4: who have been able to survive, the people who have
- 43:33Speaker 4: been able to overcome those.
- 43:35Speaker 6: Hurdles and those pitfalls and those land mines.
- 43:37Speaker 4: So we wanted to create something that allows the voices
- 43:41Speaker 4: of those who are dealing with it to tell us
- 43:44Speaker 4: what the solution is and let's figure that out. So
- 43:46Speaker 4: we're also involved with some redevelopment, you know, we have
- 43:51Speaker 4: to call it redevelopment, but basically there's gentrification in the
- 43:54Speaker 4: hood and I'm like, yo, hold up, how can we
- 43:56Speaker 4: be a part of that, you know, redevelopment because it's
- 43:59Speaker 4: really important and as you know, with gentrification, you know,
- 44:02Speaker 4: it's valuable land, it's valuable you know, communities, but they
- 44:06Speaker 4: displace those who inhabit it, and it's particularly black folk,
- 44:09Speaker 4: black and brown people, right, And so we're like, how
- 44:11Speaker 4: can we find this social equity? How can we find
- 44:14Speaker 4: opportunities to keep you know, to redevelop it, get all
- 44:18Speaker 4: the amenities housing, affordable housing, you know, businesses that the
- 44:23Speaker 4: people who live there could take part and they're not displaced, right,
- 44:27Speaker 4: And we can create businesses and we can create you know,
- 44:30Speaker 4: schools and museums. And this is not like sort of
- 44:33Speaker 4: like a pipe dream. It's like it is attainable. It happens.
- 44:37Speaker 4: It just doesn't happen with us often. So we're doing
- 44:39Speaker 4: all the things that we can to be a part
- 44:41Speaker 4: of that. We're dealing with developers and architects and lawyers
- 44:45Speaker 4: and you know, financial people that you know look like
- 44:48Speaker 4: us that we could be a part of the narrative
- 44:50Speaker 4: to redevelop and help buy back the block.
- 44:53Speaker 2: You had my last thing, you had a successful odio series.
- 44:56Speaker 4: Yes, so Bronsville represents that and that's wart of that. Yeah,
- 44:59Speaker 4: we have more of that.
- 45:00Speaker 1: You know.
- 45:00Speaker 6: Bronsville is sort of a road map, if you will.
- 45:06Speaker 4: The actual story is like a story of the mind
- 45:09Speaker 4: where you can like hear like this podcast, right, but
- 45:12Speaker 4: we scripted it.
- 45:14Speaker 6: There's characters in it.
- 45:15Speaker 4: And it takes place in the nineteen thirties nineteen forties
- 45:18Speaker 4: on the South side of Chicago in a community called Bronsville,
- 45:22Speaker 4: where black folks were self sufficient and the way that
- 45:24Speaker 4: they became self sufficient financially was running numbers. Other communities
- 45:29Speaker 4: were you know, bootlegging, when doing liquor and all that stuff.
- 45:33Speaker 4: During Prohibition, black folks we were running numbers. And what
- 45:37Speaker 4: happened was as a result of creating this economic infrastructure,
- 45:42Speaker 4: they began to invest in the community. So these people
- 45:45Speaker 4: will call policy kings, decided to invest into like the
- 45:49Speaker 4: first black owned bank, the first department store in Chicago
- 45:52Speaker 4: that was black on the grocery stores, and we had
- 45:55Speaker 4: this metropolis of a community where we had our own
- 45:59Speaker 4: police departments when we policed ourselves, and we had our
- 46:02Speaker 4: own grocery stores and butcher shops where people would look
- 46:05Speaker 4: out for each other. And I felt like we got
- 46:07Speaker 4: away from that, and we want to tell the story
- 46:10Speaker 4: of how we can get back to that because it
- 46:12Speaker 4: is attainable for us as black folks to unite, thrive
- 46:15Speaker 4: and have a true uh part of the piece of
- 46:18Speaker 4: American dream.
- 46:19Speaker 2: Sounds for men, shatty are people telling our story?
- 46:22Speaker 3: You have it legendary. Appreciating my brother. I'm sure we'll
- 46:27Speaker 3: be crossing path soon.
- 46:28Speaker 6: Yeah, we got a build.
- 46:29Speaker 4: I'm here to Actually, I told you I was gonna listen.
- 46:32Speaker 4: I was talking in front of my mouth. But we're
- 46:33Speaker 4: gonna We're gonna offline We're gonna definitely sit and talk
- 46:36Speaker 4: with us.
- 46:36Speaker 6: I would love you all to be a part of
- 46:38Speaker 6: the things that we're doing and building.
- 46:40Speaker 4: I would like to learn more from you all and
- 46:42Speaker 4: how we can you know, join forces and get this money.
- 46:46Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean the only what is in the cars
- 46:48Speaker 2: for us?
- 46:48Speaker 1: Oh, we headed to Holly talk about that too.
- 46:51Speaker 6: I got y'all. You know, I got entertainment company.
- 46:55Speaker 1: Let's get the deals done. Yes up? All right, guys,
- 46:58Speaker 1: thank you for rocking with us. We'll see you next week.
- 47:00Speaker 2: Peace peace.
- 47:02Speaker 1: There you have it.
- 47:03Speaker 2: I didn't get a chance to thank you for being
- 47:05Speaker 2: the leading man to some of these leading ladies.
- 47:07Speaker 7: Okay, this is Halle Berry. Yes, this is this. This
- 47:12Speaker 7: this is can we can see you're just doing as
- 47:14Speaker 7: some others.
- 47:16Speaker 6: This this is some bonus stuff.
- 47:17Speaker 2: I mean, we're gonna start with Halle. Okay, let's start
- 47:20Speaker 2: my favorite of course alone. Okay, I ran into it.
- 47:23Speaker 2: I don't even know what to say. Jada multiple times
- 47:29Speaker 2: and at the time Vivi Fox, But I mean, and
- 47:37Speaker 2: I'm gonna count this because it was a video, but
- 47:38Speaker 2: a wow.
- 47:40Speaker 6: Yeah, I've been fortunate. I've been fortunate.
- 47:45Speaker 2: Did I miss it?
- 47:46Speaker 1: Probably She's probably the best one out of that.
- 47:49Speaker 2: Group, I said, halle Berry. Bro Currently, currently, no, I
- 47:52Speaker 2: said me alone.
- 47:53Speaker 6: Bro, Currently, I'm just I'm gonna fly on the wall.
- 47:58Speaker 2: I said me alone, Brom. Just after that, you can't currently,
- 48:01Speaker 2: So the questions shann he's bad, She's for forty one.
- 48:05Speaker 2: Nia's fifty. It's a different level, Bro, that's a different level.
- 48:10Speaker 2: But the question, I love the conversation. The question was
- 48:13Speaker 2: this is there. I got a couple of questions. But
- 48:16Speaker 2: is there a leading lady that you haven't worked with
- 48:18Speaker 2: that you you inspired to work with? Oh?
- 48:22Speaker 6: Yeah, I would love to work with Sonnah.
- 48:24Speaker 2: Layton, She's she's not on that list.
- 48:27Speaker 4: Yeah, I've not worked with Sonai, and there's a few
- 48:33Speaker 4: of the ones that are that are amazing. But just
- 48:36Speaker 4: thinking about all the women we talked about that you
- 48:40Speaker 4: mentioned Hallie.
- 48:43Speaker 6: Vivoca, Leila Rashwan, but you know Jada, who else? Did
- 48:50Speaker 6: you say? Nia Long? Obviously clean?
- 48:52Speaker 7: Nia?
- 48:54Speaker 4: But yeah, you know, Sonai is someone I was able
- 48:58Speaker 4: to work with, Regina Hall. I would also love to
- 49:01Speaker 4: work with Regina King. Regina King that.
- 49:04Speaker 2: She was in Girls Strip, But you guys, yeah, whiz
- 49:06Speaker 2: the girl it was kind of you know, I didn't
- 49:08Speaker 2: put I knew that, but she.
- 49:09Speaker 4: Was like, yeah, yeah, so yeah, but I would love
- 49:12Speaker 4: to work with some of those sisters.
- 49:13Speaker 2: Incredible that. The other part of it was we saw
- 49:17Speaker 2: the success of The Best Man becoming a series, sure,
- 49:21Speaker 2: and so I wonder, like, did the opportunity even be
- 49:25Speaker 2: presented to have love Jones in that format?
- 49:29Speaker 4: Of course, it's not the many times you know, just
- 49:34Speaker 4: you know, there's been so many conversations about how Nia
- 49:37Speaker 4: Long and I should get back together.
- 49:39Speaker 2: I don't even I could play the same role like that.
- 49:42Speaker 4: Look, it's been, it's been. The conversation has been had
- 49:44Speaker 4: many many times for many many years. Yeah, because the
- 49:47Speaker 4: movie is so iconic and it's been such a staple
- 49:52Speaker 4: in the community about how black Love means so much
- 49:55Speaker 4: to us and how you know, just the movie itself
- 49:58Speaker 4: was very u we start various level had.
- 50:02Speaker 2: Had a brown leather book that I was right. I
- 50:03Speaker 2: thought they was Ron's, but they turned into.
- 50:05Speaker 6: Point nine recording.
- 50:09Speaker 2: My brother actually was like doing spoken words, so he
- 50:12Speaker 2: and I would just be there watching him. I'm like, yo,
- 50:14Speaker 2: this is that's the impact of movie.
- 50:16Speaker 6: Yeah, there was.
- 50:16Speaker 4: It was a thing so Nia Long and I'm just
- 50:19Speaker 4: just trying to figure it out, but I think something
- 50:22Speaker 4: has to happen. I'm not quite sure what that is
- 50:25Speaker 4: where I can say right now, but the conversation of
- 50:28Speaker 4: Love Jones has happened, and we just here's the deal.
- 50:31Speaker 4: If you can't do it that justice, like take it
- 50:35Speaker 4: to the next level, you got to leave it alone.
- 50:37Speaker 6: Find something else, so you know, we'll see what happens.
- 50:40Speaker 2: This is the last thing. Yeah, last thing is this recording.
- 50:43Speaker 2: This is not recording, it's recording, yell the black actor
- 50:50Speaker 2: American actor. I feel like there's been a decline the
- 50:58Speaker 2: British invasion. The British invasion has taken over the days
- 51:02Speaker 2: of you guys like you more or like the guys
- 51:05Speaker 2: I mentioned are far in between. Like, but you guys
- 51:07Speaker 2: still doing it. But I don't see the next like
- 51:11Speaker 2: rendition of the black male actor because of the British invasion.
- 51:14Speaker 4: What are your thoughts, Listen, I've I don't look at
- 51:18Speaker 4: the it as a competition.
- 51:20Speaker 6: I look at the collective.
- 51:22Speaker 4: So you know, there's brothers who are doing it, whether
- 51:24Speaker 4: they're doing it here, yeah, in America, whether they're doing
- 51:27Speaker 4: it you know, over from the UK or even from
- 51:31Speaker 4: the Mother Continent Africa.
- 51:33Speaker 6: I'm cool with whatever it's going to be.
- 51:35Speaker 4: But I feel like Hollywood believes there's more value.
- 51:41Speaker 6: In British black actors than they do Black actors.
- 51:46Speaker 4: And I think a part of it goes into that, oh,
- 51:50Speaker 4: they have an audience over there, so they translate.
- 51:55Speaker 6: Internationally.
- 51:56Speaker 4: Going back to that, what I think is, you know,
- 52:00Speaker 4: a hoax that we don't sell or we don't we're
- 52:02Speaker 4: not valuable. So I think they put that in the mix.
- 52:06Speaker 4: And also I just think Hollywood is just in love
- 52:09Speaker 4: with the UK and all things, you know, British, and
- 52:13Speaker 4: so I feel like the black American actor is you know,
- 52:19Speaker 4: I see what that decline is.
- 52:20Speaker 2: But you know, we here, you're here, yeah, yellow, Yeah.
- 52:24Speaker 6: But I love the collective.
- 52:25Speaker 2: So those guys are killing it.
- 52:27Speaker 4: They're killing it, you know. You know, listen, my heart
- 52:30Speaker 4: ain't pumping no kool aid. I know what I stand on.
- 52:32Speaker 6: You know what I mean. You know, it's blood run
- 52:34Speaker 6: through these things. You know what I'm saying. It's the
- 52:35Speaker 6: cold as ice, bro. So we're gonna be all right,
- 52:37Speaker 6: towns already, you did I have it?
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