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2-11-26 Hour 2 - Utah Jazz are obviously tanking/KB hurt...again, Oldest Athletes ever/Oh, By the Way! · Moser, Lombardi and Kane

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  Speaker 2: So I don't envy the job of commissioners in sports.
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  Speaker 2: I just don't think there's any way that anybody's gonna
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  Speaker 2: like you. It's hard to look good.
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  Speaker 3: Because I don't think people understand who the commissioner really
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  Speaker 3: works for.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, who does he work for? He's the mouthpiece of
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  Speaker 2: the owners. Yeah, and he tries to play some sort
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  Speaker 2: of buffer between him and the players. But at the
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  Speaker 2: end of the day, who does he work for. I've
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  Speaker 2: heard Roger Goodell is called a meat shield from the
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  Speaker 2: players to the owners. He has to take all the arrows.
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  Speaker 3: I've had this conversation with players before, former NFL players,
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  Speaker 3: when they criticize the commissioner. I said, well, he's not
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  Speaker 3: there for you. Yeah, he's gonna hear you, he's gonna
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  Speaker 3: work with you, but he doesn't enter to you. He
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  Speaker 3: just doesn't.
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  Speaker 2: Roger Goodell makes fifty to sixty million dollars a year
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  Speaker 2: because the owners want him to do their bidding.
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  Speaker 3: And not to say that some owners aren't upset with
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  Speaker 3: some of the decisions, but that's always going to be
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  Speaker 3: a Hey, here's what the rest of the owners think.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, this is what we want to do. Now I
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  Speaker 2: take the money, But that seems like just a difficult
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  Speaker 2: job to keep everybody happy. You're basically parenting for two
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  Speaker 2: different kids who are screaming at each other. Now, they
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  Speaker 2: have done their damnedest in the NBA to curb tanking.
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  Speaker 2: That's why the lottery's there. They don't want to incentivize losing.
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  Speaker 2: What is happening in Utah. It's a joke and I
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  Speaker 2: it's it's I don't know how you fix this other
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  Speaker 2: than throwing the hammer at a team. But VIC, can
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  Speaker 2: you with one certainty if this was a court of law,
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  Speaker 2: prove with evidence.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, well, let me let me guess their last three
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  Speaker 3: In case you haven't heard this, they picked up Jaron
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  Speaker 3: Jackson from Memphis. Yep, they've got Lori Markine already, and
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  Speaker 3: they got use of nerd kitchen another big correct.
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  Speaker 2: And I believe three of the last four.
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  Speaker 3: Games they have taken those players out of the game
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  Speaker 3: in the fourth quarter entirely just not playing in the
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  Speaker 3: fourth quarter with leads, and in three of those games
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  Speaker 3: they had leads and did not reinsert them into the game.
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  Speaker 3: What is now It backfired the other night because they
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  Speaker 3: ended up winning the game, but in the other two
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  Speaker 3: they lost clearly. What they're trying to do is lose. Clearly,
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  Speaker 3: they're trying to lose. Correct And you can give me
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  Speaker 3: any song and dance. Hi they had a tender foot.
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  Speaker 2: Ah, it just wasn't feeling. Nah.
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  Speaker 3: We know what they're doing. They know what they're doing.
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  Speaker 2: What is.
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  Speaker 3: This goes back to everything you keep hearing about the
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  Speaker 3: Clippers and the Kawhi Leonard stuff. I mean, how many
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  Speaker 3: more Pablo Torres investigations we need to hear before the.
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  Speaker 2: What it calls you said, Torres?
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  Speaker 3: How many more pablotry investigations do we need before somebody
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  Speaker 3: does something well?
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  Speaker 2: And that's where I'm saying, it's a really difficult position
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  Speaker 2: to be in if you're Adam Silver, because whether it's
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  Speaker 2: the aspiration thing with the Clippers, very clearly there's some
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  Speaker 2: screwy going on there. But if you actually say that
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  Speaker 2: they did that, you need to bring the hammer. That's cheating.
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  Speaker 2: You have to bring the hammer Saturday two o'clock.
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  Speaker 3: Then for time I will be at the commissioner's press
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  Speaker 3: conference in LA. It's in between all the stuff, all
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  Speaker 3: the activities that are going on. You don't think these
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  Speaker 3: questions are going to come up?
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  Speaker 2: Oh of course, and I'll be very curious to see
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  Speaker 2: how he answers them. But on top of that, they
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  Speaker 2: hate tanking. It ruins the integrity of the sport. That's
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  Speaker 2: all true. This is clearly happening in front of all
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  Speaker 2: of our eyes. What the hell do you do Like
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  Speaker 2: if you go out and admit they're doing it, you
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  Speaker 2: can't punish them a little bit. It's got to be
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  Speaker 2: super harsh at the end of the day.
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  Speaker 3: Let me ask you a question, though, if you were
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  Speaker 3: a fan of the Utah Jazz. Let's say the Nuggets
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  Speaker 3: were put in this position and they've been there before,
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  Speaker 3: what would you want your team to do? Be honest,
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  Speaker 3: what would you want your team to do? You're not
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  Speaker 3: going to win anything this year, You're not going anywhere.
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  Speaker 2: What would you want? Deep down? I mean I suppose
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  Speaker 2: to lose, okay, so you would want that? Now that's
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  Speaker 2: the urge, right, That is all dependent. This is what
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  Speaker 2: doesn't make sense though, If my team was totally devoid
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  Speaker 2: of talent that had nobody who could play. Then yeah,
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  Speaker 2: let's get a really good player and move. But they
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  Speaker 2: have Dude, Marketing's not a bump.
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  Speaker 3: I understand that. I'm just asking, not a bum. You're
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  Speaker 3: trying to legitimize this from far away. If this is
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  Speaker 3: your team and it doesn't guarantee you the top pick,
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  Speaker 3: it just gives you a better shot. Yeah, the top pick.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, look who got the top pick last year? Dallas, Right,
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  Speaker 3: they won the lottery?
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  Speaker 2: Okay, well, and how did they do that? By the way, Well,
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  Speaker 2: I know it's true trading Luca or it was the
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  Speaker 2: year was the year prior.
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  Speaker 3: The year prior that they went to the NBA Finals,
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  Speaker 3: the year that the Nuggets won the NBA Championship. If
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  Speaker 3: you remember, they take a chance to go to a
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  Speaker 3: play in and they purposely sat players not to even
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  Speaker 3: get to the play in.
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  Speaker 2: Yep, which was not tank.
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  Speaker 3: I have nothing.
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  Speaker 2: And that's that was when Mark Cuban on correct. So
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  Speaker 2: I'm just telling you from afar.
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  Speaker 3: It's easy to say, well, this team should be doing
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  Speaker 3: this and that, But if it's your team, what would
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  Speaker 3: you want?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess to lose, I do. I mean, I
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  Speaker 2: think I'm a little bit different than most people on
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  Speaker 2: this Even if my team's bad, I still want winning
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  Speaker 2: habits there. Yeah, I don't want to be like I
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  Speaker 2: watch how about this fick. I watched my team go
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  Speaker 2: owen sixteen. They got Matthew Stafford out of it, and
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  Speaker 2: that's great. There's no fun in oh in sixteen.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I think I don't want to go into the
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  Speaker 3: karma zone. But I think sometimes even if you don't
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  Speaker 3: get a number one or number two picks, sometimes you
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  Speaker 3: fall like seven eight and somebody falls to you, like,
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  Speaker 3: oh my god.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, look look what happened to the.
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  Speaker 3: Nuggets in the second round in Nicolaokicic.
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  Speaker 2: I think basketball gods can reward you. I think sports
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  Speaker 2: gods reward you for doing the right things.
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  Speaker 4: Well, actually, look at what happened to the Avalanche when
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  Speaker 4: they had their abysmal season.
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  Speaker 3: They never got the first pick. Yeah, they got it once.
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  Speaker 4: But I mean after they had their horrible season where
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  Speaker 4: they won like two games, I think they got the
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  Speaker 4: fourth pick in the lottery and they parlayed that into
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  Speaker 4: Kale mccarr right, and everybody was so incredibly pissed here
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  Speaker 4: that we didn't get the first pick. I think the
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  Speaker 4: hockey gods rewarded him on that one.
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  Speaker 3: There is a great deal of karma that goes into it.
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  Speaker 3: Now what sucks about what Utah is doing. Here's what
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  Speaker 3: sucks for the rest of the NBA. They seem to
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  Speaker 3: pick and choose the knights that they do this. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: so if the Nuggets are visiting Utah in March, which
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  Speaker 3: they will, mind you, Oh, I would love it if
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  Speaker 3: they decided to sit there, guys.
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  Speaker 2: No, what is Jaron Jackson and marketing and Nurkic is
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  Speaker 2: gonna play all twelve minutes and the fourth thing exactly?
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  Speaker 3: Or do they just do they pick and choose win?
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  Speaker 3: They do it and that that's when it becomes a
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  Speaker 3: problem because now it affects the race. Now it affects
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  Speaker 3: other teams. So you're gonna sit your guys for Okac,
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  Speaker 3: but you're gonna play them against Denver. You're gonna sit
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  Speaker 3: you guys for San Antonio, but you're gonna play against Denver.
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  Speaker 2: Now you're like, hey, what about us? I know this
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  Speaker 2: might be shocking to you. Vick mad Dog Russo has
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  Speaker 2: a take on this, and it stems from load management
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  Speaker 2: because that's part of the excuse that they're using, is
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  Speaker 2: they don't want to put too much on these guys. Well,
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  Speaker 2: here was his thoughts.
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  Speaker 5: November before Thanksgiving in two thy seventeen. Had I walked
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  Speaker 5: in there in the off season and did an hour
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  Speaker 5: show with the freaking high heat, sick as a freaking dog,
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  Speaker 5: and then walked in here and did a monologue, and
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  Speaker 5: I said, I can't take it.
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  Speaker 3: I'm so sick. I gotta leave.
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  Speaker 6: And I took that train home, and three days later
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  Speaker 6: I was in the freaking Stanford hospital and the doctor said, hi,
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  Speaker 6: the hen and you survived that. And then I sat
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  Speaker 6: there on a Tuesday night. He sat there and I
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  Speaker 6: put it on me for three hours to get in
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  Speaker 6: a methics. Now, oh, Ruptard, what Chris woops out and
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  Speaker 6: Jared Jackson can't play in the fourth quarter.
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  Speaker 2: In a game in primery making fifty million a year?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, this is my this says up, sir.
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  Speaker 2: What just happened? Well, of course, because he walked, you know,
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  Speaker 2: uphills both ways in the snow, all of that stuff.
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  Speaker 4: And by the way, Brett, in the original video you said,
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  Speaker 4: there's Bruce Springsteen playing in the back entire time, and
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  Speaker 4: I had to get the music removed so we could
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  Speaker 4: play it on everything. The reason is later in his
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  Speaker 4: rent he goes.
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  Speaker 6: At bro Sprigstad is eighty years old and he plays
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  Speaker 6: as a square got it for four hours every night.
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  Speaker 2: So of course that was his is that Jaron Jackson
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  Speaker 2: has to play in the fourth quarter because I did
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  Speaker 2: a show with appendicitis once. Duh. You know, the older
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  Speaker 2: you get. It's funny.
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  Speaker 3: I sat down with Gallo yesterday. Danilo Gallinari is going
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  Speaker 3: to be at the Nuggets game tonight.
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  Speaker 2: He's great. He's great. It was good to see him.
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  Speaker 2: It's been a while.
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  Speaker 4: It's probably great that Mosure wasn't there to interrupt with
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  Speaker 4: questions about Saradinia.
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  Speaker 3: We sat down and we we had like a forty
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  Speaker 3: minute conversation. And by the way, you'll be able to
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  Speaker 3: catch that soon on YouTube. We'll have it on our
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  Speaker 3: altitude appen on YouTube and all that stuff, so you'll
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  Speaker 3: be able to hear the entire proceeding. But he was
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  Speaker 3: talking about so he just retired, right. He played in
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  Speaker 3: Puerto Rico last year.
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  Speaker 2: He's thirty seven. He just retired. It's funny.
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  Speaker 3: The more removed you are from the game, the more
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  Speaker 3: and invoke this term, the more boomer mentality you get.
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  Speaker 3: He's already talking about, you know, back in my day,
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  Speaker 3: and he's fresh off the league, so.
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  Speaker 2: Is he is he already at the game. Isn't as
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  Speaker 2: good as when money?
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  Speaker 3: No? No, no, he's not degrading the game. Okay, he's
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  Speaker 3: talking about playing every game I got you. Yeah, and
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  Speaker 3: he's talking about listen. I he had twelve surgeries in
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  Speaker 3: his career, multiple on his knees, and there were times
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  Speaker 3: when they don't play and he played, and he just
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  Speaker 3: says that that doesn't happen. He doesn't see it happening
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  Speaker 3: as much as it was during his day, and his
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  Speaker 3: day was yesterday. So I don't know if it changes
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  Speaker 3: year by year. I don't know what's happening, dude.
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  Speaker 2: It's crazy how different you don't notice it in the
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  Speaker 2: middle of it, and then it's just kind of like bam,
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  Speaker 2: it's there. You know. We're just talking about the proclivity
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  Speaker 2: to go forward on fourth down and how much that's
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  Speaker 2: changed in the NFL that was like three years ago. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: you know what I mean, It's just started to happen,
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  Speaker 2: like win the three point, like the Steph Curry taking
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  Speaker 2: forty three's a game thing. I don't know even did
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  Speaker 2: that start seven eight years ago, and it's just more
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  Speaker 2: and more teams adopted it along the way or what
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  Speaker 2: just I'm trying to remember, was that just Golden State
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  Speaker 2: for a few years that was doing that, and then
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  Speaker 2: other teams jumped on or were there are a few teams
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  Speaker 2: doing that with Golden State that just weren't as good
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  Speaker 2: shooting threes. The amount of threes that they take per game.
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  Speaker 3: Well, Boston took it to a whole new level a
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  Speaker 3: couple of years ago when he started firing the Missoula rules.
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  Speaker 2: You know what, I actually want to talk about this
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  Speaker 2: a little bit later. Here's a Boomer take for you.
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  Speaker 2: You ready, Yeah, I think the Nuggets are taking too
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  Speaker 2: many threes. I don't like it. I think there's times
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  Speaker 2: where they're just all the best.
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  Speaker 3: But they're the best three point shooting team in the
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  Speaker 3: league percentage wise.
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  Speaker 2: I know. But they were also like the best team
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  Speaker 2: on the interior for years. They would dominate inside the
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  Speaker 2: three point line. And it feels like they're just looking
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  Speaker 2: to get one.
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  Speaker 3: But isn't that they win a month without a center
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  Speaker 3: for crying out loud?
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  Speaker 2: That's true, Yeah, that's true.
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  Speaker 3: So that's just part of the deal. If you want
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  Speaker 3: to win games or staying games, you gotta shoot more threes.
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  Speaker 3: I have no problem to me on threes they've taken.
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  Speaker 2: They didn't do that when they won, I know. But again,
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  Speaker 2: the changes. At least that was a couple of years ago.
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  Speaker 3: The game changes, though, it's changed. They've got you know
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  Speaker 3: what year they won, they didn't have Cam Johnson, Tim Hardaway,
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  Speaker 3: and then have Jamal.
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  Speaker 2: Murray shooting at the pace he's shooting threes. I get it.
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  Speaker 3: They did have MPJ then, but they weren't as reliant
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  Speaker 3: on the three. Now are there moments in the game
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  Speaker 3: and you hear me talk about this all the time,
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  Speaker 3: Oh my.
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  Speaker 2: God, just go to the hole. Right the Cleveland game
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  Speaker 2: the other night, I mean, I know, it's just at
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  Speaker 2: the very beginning of the game, and then they built
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  Speaker 2: up a lead whatever, but they took three straight threes
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  Speaker 2: to start the game. They missed all three. Cleveland went
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  Speaker 2: to the paint, they got three buckets, They're up six
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  Speaker 2: to nothing, and I was like, what's what's wrong with that? Whit?
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  Speaker 2: Why don't teams want to do that a little bit too,
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  Speaker 2: instead of just hoisting it constantly.
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  Speaker 3: The numbers the numbers, But if you shoot sixty percent
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  Speaker 3: from the inside.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know whatever, hey never gonna win.
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  Speaker 2: I don't care.
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  Speaker 3: I don't care what you do tonight, where you shoot,
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  Speaker 3: how you shoot, how many you shoot this much. I
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  Speaker 3: know you cannot lose to the Memphis Grizzlies in the
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  Speaker 3: final game before the All Star Break, when you've struggled
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  Speaker 3: at home, you're coming off a loss, took one on
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  Speaker 3: the chin that you're gonna feel for a while.
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  Speaker 2: David Adelman said it to.
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  Speaker 3: The PhD boys yesterday he had trouble sleeping. That's one
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  Speaker 3: of those games, the Cleveland loss. And you know, I'm
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  Speaker 3: over it now, but when it's time to position yourself
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  Speaker 3: for a playoff. By the way, you wake up this morning,
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  Speaker 3: you see where the Nuggets are. Look at your standings.
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  Speaker 3: They're fourth, they're fourth. Now they win tonight, they're back
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  Speaker 3: in third, but they're fourth. That loss to Cleveland is
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  Speaker 3: one of those losses that you're gonna think of when damn,
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  Speaker 3: I wish we were positioned in a different playoff seed. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: that's one of those losses. And that's why you have
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  Speaker 3: to make up for it somewhere down.
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  Speaker 2: The stretchsh This is crazy because we were talking about
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  Speaker 2: the home record of the Nuggets and how it's just
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  Speaker 2: it's not great. They're the only team with twenty road
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  Speaker 2: wins this year.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, if I told you this, Nelly, pay attention, focus, Nuggets,
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  Speaker 3: Pay attention, Nuggets fans.
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  Speaker 2: If I said to you, the Denver Nuggets.
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  Speaker 3: Are thirty four and twenty, and of the thirty four
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  Speaker 3: and twenty, they're twenty and nine.
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  Speaker 2: At home, fourteen and eleven on the road at checks,
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  Speaker 2: you'd be like, Yeah, it's a good season.
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  Speaker 3: Right the way you would look at that season, you'd say,
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  Speaker 3: that's quality and it's funny. If I flip those around,
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  Speaker 3: as they are twenty and nine on the road, fourteen
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  Speaker 3: and eleven at home, You're like, what the hell's going on?
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  Speaker 2: It feels like a missed opportunity exactly.
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  Speaker 3: And yet again, if you inverse those numbers, it fits perfectly.
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  Speaker 3: You Like, that's fourteen and eleven on the road.
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  Speaker 2: I'll take that. Yeah, I'll take that every day. Talk
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  Speaker 2: more about this as we go along, Nuggets and grizz Tonight,
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  Speaker 2: seven o'clock, stick around. Hey, Vic, you want to big surprise,
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  Speaker 2: you want to be shocked? You shock me? Do you
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  Speaker 2: want to be a gazebo. Have your doors blown off?
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  Speaker 2: Chris Brian's on the sixty D idea, you were.
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  Speaker 3: That we knew this was coming, and I know a
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  Speaker 3: lot of people are upset by that.
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  Speaker 2: What do you expect him to do? Exactly you expect
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  Speaker 2: him to We need a full season of KB.
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  Speaker 3: I keep hearing this stuff like, oh my god, he
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  Speaker 3: should do the right thing. Oh what's what's the right thing? No, gentlemen,
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  Speaker 3: what what are you crazy?
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  Speaker 2: Like? I know that people make jokes about this. He has,
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  Speaker 2: from what I understand, a debilitating back injury that has
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  Speaker 2: robbed him of living like his everyday life essentially, like
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  Speaker 2: he can't do anything. He's like, I can't golf, Like
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  Speaker 2: I can't do like my daily duties without my back hurting,
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  Speaker 2: which is it sounds miserable. What do you want him
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  Speaker 2: to do here? What? What the Rockies? Dude? It's just
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: gonna be something that every year, this is gonna pop
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: up until his contracts up, where it's like, you know,
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: I'm sure it's the same way that Angels fans feel
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: about Anthony Rendone every year.
• 16:10
  Speaker 3: So if he walks away, let's say, Okay, I'm done.
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: I can't play baseball. Anymore. What happens to the contract?
• 16:14
  Speaker 5: Is it?
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: Nolan Void? Well, I think when you retired, you don't
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: get paid out the rest of what's like, Okay, why
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: would he do that? Now? Would you probably not listen?
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: But there's there's a listeners. Would you? We're hoping that
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: the veteran slugger's Brian. The problem with him though, like
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: the reason why you would do it is if you
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: wanted to save some face. Because here's the unfortunate thing
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: for Chris Bryant. He's had a really good career. If
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: you remember when he was in Chicago, he was like
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: the golden child there, brought them their first World Series
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: in one hundred years whatever it was. His name is
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: being associated with the joke now, and if you want
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: to take the cash for your name being a running
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: joke every year multiple times, then I guess that's okay.
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: But maybe that's reason why you wouldn't. Maybe you're like,
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: I made enough money, I don't need to have my
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: name drug through the mud multiple times a year now.
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: I mean is that I'm not saying that I would
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: do that, but that would be I think the reason why.
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: I guess that's the price you pay. Yeah, That's what
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: I'm saying. I like, you want to keep collecting the checks,
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: then this is what's going to come with the territory. Halloway,
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: what do you think about this?
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: I'm just surprised that there's not some sort of disability
• 17:22
  Speaker 3: insurance laden into that contract where the Rockies can step
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: away from it the insurance premium. You know, they pick
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: up the rest of the contract. I mean, isn't that
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: commonplace in sports? You'd think, I help me understand this.
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: I would imagine that when you sign a contract and
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: you have a debilitating injury that does not allow you
• 17:44
  Speaker 3: to play anymore, doesn't the team or the league, doesn't
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: somebody take out an insurance policy.
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: Is the fact that he has played the difference, like
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: he hasn't set out entirely for any year he came
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: to the Rockies. In twenty twenty two, he played forty
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: two games, Then the following year he played eighty about
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: half the season. Then in twenty twenty four he played
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: thirty seven, and last year he played eleven. Is it
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: the fact that he's still trying to go out in play.
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: I guess it's hard to prove as well if you
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: had back issues because I have.
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: If you had back.
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: Issues, I'm going to Okay. I just want you to
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: know if something my brother's going through one right now?
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: He goes, yeah, I can't move. I go, yeah, welcome
• 18:28
  Speaker 3: to the club. You don't know when and where. It
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: just happens.
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: And when it happens, it grabs you and it pulls
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: you and you just want to lay down. You don't
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: know what to do. How do we fine? Yeah, I
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: don't know how you prove that the injury is so
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: debilitating he can't do his job?
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: How do you prove it? But here's the thing. I
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: don't think he's faking it. I don't for whatever you
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: guys want to say about Chris Bryant, he's not faking
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: this injury. This is real. I agree with you.
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: Why would he? I mean, he just lose his confidence,
• 19:03
  Speaker 3: can't hit the ball anymore. So he's gonna fake a
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: back injury? What?
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: Why would he? No? Here's the other thing he probably
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: wants to play, is Rendon faking it. We Rendons made
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: some comments about his lack of care for the game
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: that have been mixed in with his injuries. Yes, so
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: I think his situation is a little bit different. I mean,
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: I know, if you remember last year they went into
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: spring training, he was not participating, and they're asking him
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: about it because his contract is a huge talking point.
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: Do you remember what he said that baseball isn't the
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: most important thing in my life and what he meant
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: was my family is more important, which everybody would agree with.
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: But you can't say that, bro.
• 19:43
  Speaker 3: You can't again when when you're Chris Bryant and you're
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: still owed three years of this deal. Three years it's
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: close to how much is he owed? Eighty five million?
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: He's making twenty seventy year, I think, so eighty one.
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: Eighty five million dollars. You're trying to play You can't.
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: I just cannot fathom why an injury settlement cannot be had.
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: Apparently they don't have an insurance policy on it, otherwise
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: it would pick it up.
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: We get pictures and catchers reporting. I don't know if
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: you're interested, Vic and talking to anybody about the rock
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: he's going back for spring training. But if we did,
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: we can ask. I don't know Thomas Harding or like
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: Christian says, I d n v are if they.
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: Have the chunders about it, and he didn't know about
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: any insurance policy. Again, I don't know if it's not aware.
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know if it's common.
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: I don't know if it's if it's a thing in baseball.
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: Well, you know how strong that union is, they might
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: they might have been like, no, we aren't having those.
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: But you know, players take policies out on their own
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: all the time. Yes, college players do that all the
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: time before Stephen Strasburg had one before nil became the thing.
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: A prospective first round pick take insurance policies out on
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: their bodies.
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: All the time. That yeah, yeah, I don't know. It's interesting.
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: Here's the other interesting thing. What do you And maybe
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: this is just part of what I was talking about earlier,
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: like I'm I am encouraged by what this new regime
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: has done. Did you see they made two signings yesterday.
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: I did both pitchers veterans. A Japanese pitcher Toma Yuki Sugano,
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: good one who he's played just one year in the BIGS.
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: I was last year. He's thirty five years old, so
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: he came over late in his career. He was ten
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: and ten four to six four ERA, nothing super special.
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: And the other one was Jose Kintana, who's been in
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: this league for a long long time, was really really
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: good for a while, still is decent. He went eleven
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: and seven last year with a three nine six ERA.
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: Why sign them? And Mike might Why not? My answer
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: would be, even if you don't think you're gonna do
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: winning this year, which they aren't, Let's say Vic thirty,
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: how old is Kintan, he's thirty seven? Thirty seven year
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: old Jose Kintana goes out there and he throws up
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: a three to nine ERA and plays for decent like that.
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: He pronounced Kana. You do it the right king, Tanah,
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: you do it the right way.
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: But let's say he goes out there throws up the
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: three nine ERA. Somebody who's looking for an extra arm
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: for the postseason says, I'll take some of that. You
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: can get something for one year.
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: If nothing, there's nothing to lose there, Yeah, if it's
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: an agreeable deal for both.
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: Sides, there's nothing to lose. Why. Oh, excuse me, I'm
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: trying to make my team better. I mean that too.
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: It's just I know everybody's thinking, why sign a thirty
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: seven year old for a team that's gonna win sixty
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: five games this year.
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: There was a time here in Denver where the Rocky's
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: ace I believe it was seventy five years old.
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: Do you remember whit? Can I remember his name now?
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: Kevin Freelan? What what era are we talking here? This
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: is the two thousand and fourteen fifteen Naggie ort nagel No, no,
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: help me out?
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: Was it Jamie Moyer?
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: Jamie Moyer, Oh, Jamie Moyer. Yeah, Well, Jamie Moyer has
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: been fifty years old since he entered the league, and
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: he's fifty years old every single year he was in
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: the league. But he was race just pumping eighty five
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: on the corners. Baby. It's remarkable how long of a
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: career he had, all right hand, Take a guess, how
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: many years do you think Jamie Moyer played in the league?
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: Forty seven? It's so Hang on a second, I will
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: say twenty. So his last year in the league was
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: six years, twenty seven years. Last year in the league
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: was with the Rockies in twenty twelve. Okay, Jamie Moyer
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: joined the MLB, made his debut in nineteen eighty six.
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: How many years is that? Uh, twenty fourteen, twenty six years,
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: six years in the league. Nelly, how old are you?
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: Thirty thirty one, thirty one the amount of time you've
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: been on this earth subtracted by five, that's how long
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: Jamie Morrik about eighty five miles an hour.
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: Think about how understand anything that you said?
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: When he started pitching in the major leagues? Dude, he
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: was forty nine years old when he played for the Rockies.
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I told you, and he was their stud forty nine. Yes, hey,
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: when he started pitching in eighty six. Yeah, cell phones
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: did not exist. Cell phones, cell phones, the Internet was cordless.
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: Telephones even invented then.
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: I'm trying to remember because that was my era.
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: I think they're still chords. Okay. What else did not
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: exist in eighty six? Me? I, he was forty nine
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: when he pitched for the Rockies.
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: Load management did not exist in eighty six? Yeah, I
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: told you, dude. Hang on a second, hey, old how
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: many games did he win when he pitched.
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: For the Rockies? He was only there a short time? Yeah,
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: but look at games one that season? Look one, two
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: he was two and five. It started ten games, that
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: was it. That's two more than what you won? What
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: does that mean? More than what you want? Quit making
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: fun of his age. I'm marveling at it. It's quite
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: the opposite, actually, elder abuse. I think it's an amazing thing.
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: He's got to be the oldest player ever in the
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: MW Right, nobody's older than forty.
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: Did Satchel Page come in there in his fifties?
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: Oh? Maybee and oldest professional.
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: I think Satchel Page had a couple of runs at
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: the hill when he was like fifty five.
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: You're right, you're right. Satchel played for the Casey as
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: fifty nine years.
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: That's all right, Come on, dude, come on, touchdown.
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: So he was fifty nine for a position player. Charlie
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: O'Leary back in nineteen thirty four was fifty eight years,
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: three hundred and fifty days old. You got to get
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: it of it. What position was he infielder? That's crazy
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: to me.
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: You couldn't even bend all. I mean, how fifty eight
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: fifty eight? I can't be in three hundred fifty days.
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: I mean he's fifty nine, dude, I couldn't be in
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: a crouch position for more than five minutes without like
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: falling over.
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: All right, hang on, how about for every sport. Let's
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: see if you can if you can, because baseball ba
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: I got I got all. I'm one of the time
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: oldest professional football player ever.
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: Okay, I'm gonna go with it's got to be a kicker. Wait,
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: it's that old Raider. It's oh, I know this.
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: I know the answer to this. Lay twenty six seasons.
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: Oh it's not Vince Evans. It's it's an older Raider Raider.
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: Oh y no, no, no, no, no.
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: I can't remember his name.
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: Shoot, he is a kicker, Yeah, quarterback, Yeah, kicker, Quarterland, Yes,
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: George Land.
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: I knew that. I just couldn't come up with the
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: name because I'm dumb. He was forty eight years old. Okay,
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: oldest hockey player.
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: Hold on, let me think about this, forty eight years
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: old playing professional football. Think about that for a second.
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: Old oldest hockey player. Gordi how Hell he played with
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: the subs. Uh no, it was it is not Gordy
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: how I'm trying to figure out if this is in
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: an NHL game.
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: I'm just making sure because Yager was also fifty two,
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: But is he playing It wasn't in the NHL, though,
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: so you're right.
• 27:26
  Speaker 3: Gordie Howe played in for Houston when he was like
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: eighty nine.
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: I don't know, fifty two years old. But Yager did
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: continue to play professionally, just not in the NHL at
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: that age. Okay, and what are we missing here basketball? Wait?
• 27:41
  Speaker 4: Wait, Vic, did you mean Hartford said? Gordia how played
• 27:45
  Speaker 4: for Houston.
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: There there's a franchise in Houston at the time.
• 27:48
  Speaker 4: That's how old he is. There's a Houston hockey team.
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: It's a Houston hockey team. Yes, uh, you're asking me basketball.
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: Is it Robert Parrish?
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: It is not his third okay, so it's not Robert
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: repair His last game was forty three. By the way,
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: there's a recent one. Is Lebron up there? He's not
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: forty three yet, Okay, Lebron's forty one. H let me
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: throw this out there. So it's not two of them recently.
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: By the way, that we're in the NBA within the
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: last six years, Okay, I should know this. They're four
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: and five.
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: Normally they're big guys because the smaller you are, you
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: lose your quickness, you lose your lateral movement, and you
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: can't play.
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: See.
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: That's why all of you big guys who still play
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: rec basketball, I'm not impressed because all you have to
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: do is stand there, turn around on your tippy toes
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: and score. Those are us small guys who have to
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: move laterally, and we lose our quick twitch muscles, We
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: lose everything. So I'm not impressed by your size.
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: Who is it that.
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: Is Gordy how with the Sun's rockets the Houston erows.
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: Look at that hair, dude. Why of those guys dressed
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: like our founding fathers.
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: How about this, I'll give you some hints. Big dunker,
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: one of them, huge dunk. Vince Carter. Vince Carter was
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: forty three years old when he retired in twenty two.
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: That's impressive. Another one you saw in the NBA finals
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: just recently, the Nuggets NBA Finals.
• 29:10
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, the guy who said at the end of
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: the bench is now working for Amazon.
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: Haslam Adona has He didn't play. He was a coach.
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: That doesn't count. Yeah, it doesn't count. He didn't play.
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: The oldest, by the way, he was a player at
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: nineteen forty eight. He was forty five years old.
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: Nat Hickey, Yeah, you donnis Haslam. I mean, everybody wants
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: to consider him. He didn't play. He very I mean
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: he would show up at the end of a game
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: once every three weeks.
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: Come on, how's that? By the way, we got all
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: of the oldest players in sports history. Now do soccer?
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: There have been some old ones.
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: Soccer is even more amazing if you think about it,
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: a sport that involves you have to run. You're running
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: five to seven miles, You're running the entire game. Come on,
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: Maradona was old when he when he retired is.
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: Zeldin baja r but Bahader in October twenty twenty the
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: Egyptian Yeah, those Egyptians, dude, they seventy four years old. No,
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: that's stupid.
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: Nope, don't pull up a picture of that guy not
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: doing I want to picture.
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: I want to see it was league? It was? It
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: was in twenty twenty. Is his name was? Dude? He
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: can't pronounce it c z e l d I N.
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: Is that the DAC league? What is that? B A
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: h A d e R. No, seventy four years old?
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: I gotta see it. Who would you do? You can't
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: move at seventy four up. The previous record holder, Israeli
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: goalkeeper Isaac Heike, played at seventy three years old in
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: twenty nineteen.
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: There's no way that that guy's the you know, you
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: know how those Dominicans, they the Dominican baseball players lie
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: about their age. Yeah, that guy did it the other way.
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: That guy's like forty No way, he's seventy four. Although
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: you could see the wrinkle flab like most of us
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: have on his neck.
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: You know what it is? This is, This is a
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: tell in Hollywood. My wife taught me this. Actually, so
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: like Chris Jenner is like seventy something years old. She
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: doesn't looked like it, right, but she wears gloves all
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: the time. Oh, the hand, you can't hide the wrinkles
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: in the hands. Well, you know, hands are the towel.
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: You can hide the hair. I did. The hair one
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: thing you can hide. Look at the yeah, right down there, Yeah,
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: look at that. But no, you can inject your stuff
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: in there. You can do that and hide that. Mosure's
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: too far gone for that.
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: Oh Mosers, I would I would bet that Moser was
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: gone at twenty two.
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: That man's seventy four years old.
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: The hell out it, I'm buying it. You know, these Olympias,
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: so you always get an Olympic athlete who's ridiculously old, yeah,
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: and still participating.
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: Oh how about this oldest Olympian ever.
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, now you're gonna get something because there's some oh
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: it's it was one of the shooting competitions. Yeah, remember
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: that at the last Olympics. Remember, Yeah, dude as.
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: A year bah whatever. His name was the Egyptian guy,
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: the soccer player older than the oldest Olympian ever, who
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: was sweetish shooter, Oscar Swan. I remember that guy. But
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: I'll tell you this. There is no chance you remember
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: Oscar Swan. He competed in the nineteen twenty Antwerp Summer Games. Nick,
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: no chance you remember that guy. He kept determined that
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: there was a shooter in the zero chance you remember
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: that there was another shooter in the last Olympics.
• 32:27
  Speaker 4: You're talking about the guy who wasn't using any fancy
• 32:30
  Speaker 4: aiming technology. He was just holding out the gun and
• 32:33
  Speaker 4: closing one eye.
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, spreakl. I threw out Oscar Swan, saying, oh yeah,
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: I remember that guy nailed it. You remember when you
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: were watching on your color TV the nineteen twenty Antwerp
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: Summer Games. For that just a full face line. I mean,
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: I thought, I can't believe you.
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: Like to my fingers, I thought you were talking about
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: the guy who didn't wear anything. The guy that we
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: just featured a couple of years ago, that guy, I don't.
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: Remember his name. Uh wait, what's his name? Elie? Do
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: you know that guy's name?
• 33:13
  Speaker 4: Yusef?
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: And how old is he he?
• 33:17
  Speaker 4: Let's see, Oh and he's Turkish, he's fifty three.
• 33:22
  Speaker 3: Who just walks out there and doesn't wear any of
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: that weird stuff? Yeah, like the monocle thing just shows
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: up with his eyes and says I got.
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: This all right. Oscar Swan is going in the edge
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: sprinkle category of the biggest lie that's ever told.
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: Well, the fact that there's an Olympic Games held in Antwerp,
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: I should tell you everything's so stupid.
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: So he's the oldest person to ever win an Olympic medal,
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: securing a silver in the running deer double shot team
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: event actually shot shot here.
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: Could you imagine that today, Nellie, imagine you pull up
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: a picture of Oscar Swan and I want Vic to
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: tell me again that he remembers this man.
• 34:11
  Speaker 4: He's gonna say, Vic, you could just regale us with
• 34:13
  Speaker 4: your stories.
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: I don't need to bring Oscar Swan. Wait a minute,
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: s w a h n. There was an Olympic Games
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: where they're shooting live animals.
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: He won a silver in the running deer double shot
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: team is going on. You know what, La, bring it back.
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: We need that back in the Olympics, just taking out
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: Bambi from medals.
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Vic, you remember this guy. I want you to look
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: at Oscar. He looks like Scott Hasty. All right, gonna
• 34:51
  Speaker 2: break well. I guess it's a good lead hit lead
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: in here to oh by the way, because oh, by
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: the way, our boy Oscar Swan, who Vic vividly remembers
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: one of his favorite athlete. It's in the history of America.
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: It was a lot of Sweden.
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: I guess he was featured in a lot of social
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: media platforms back then.
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: If you're just tuning in. He was a Swedish shooter
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: in the nineteen twenty Antwerp Summer Games, in which he
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: won a silver medal at seventy two years old, shooting
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: in live animals, not live this is the Oh, by
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: the way, that's a bumber. It was a deer shaped
• 35:19
  Speaker 2: target that moved. Oh so it wasn't it was a deer.
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: I guess maybe it's not a bummer. Maybe it's good
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: they didn't kill Bambi. For sport, but it was not
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: an actual deer that was shot. So, Oscar, you're moved
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: down a peg in my book of sports heroes. Oh,
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: by the way, as we're on the subject of all
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: of this, you said you wanted to talk about homeboy
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: who was crying after winning a medal because he wanted
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: his girl.
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you missed it. Yesterday we had the story
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: about the he's a biathlete biathlon. Biathlon is what is
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: the biathlon?
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: What is that?
• 36:00
  Speaker 4: I don't know, especially in skiing text because it's skiing.
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, shooting and skiing is that what that is?
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: Okay? Cross country skiing and rifle marksman.
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: So he's a Norwegian biathlete who after taking silver, take.
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: That, Oscar. You couldn't do that on skis, could you. Sorry.
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: He went on national Norwegian television in front of the
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: world and declared that he cheated on his girlfriend for
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: some reason. He said, six months ago I met the
• 36:25
  Speaker 3: love of my life and three months ago I made
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: the biggest mistake of my life and cheated on her.
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: Picked the appropriate time to admit it on live Norwegian
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: television after getting his medal, So his partner found out
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: about it.
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: Clearly who's on national television.
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: Oh no, And this guy's partner responded, I did not
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: choose to be put in this position and it hurts
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: to have to be in it. We have had contact
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: and he is aware of my opinion on this. What
• 36:57
  Speaker 3: do you think her opinion might be?
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: Did she just verbally do a per my last email?
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: He went on to say, after exchanging opinions, I deeply
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: regret I brought up this personal story on what was
• 37:11
  Speaker 3: a joyous day for Norwegian biathlon. I'm kidding, he goes,
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: I am not quite myself today. I am not thinking clearly.
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: Take that ail on the way out. Okay, I've never
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: cheated on a partner, but if I was really trying
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: to win an ex back winning a medal in the
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: Olympics and then doing the happy Gilmore, I'm sorry, baby,
• 37:37
  Speaker 2: I didn't mean it like doing that is not the
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: way to go about it.
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: Humiliating that poor lady on national Norwegian television.
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: It's like, first of all, you cheated on her, so
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: she's already upset in your brother do it, and then
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: you announced to the world that you cheated on her,
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: which also doesn't make her feel good. What a dumb dumb.
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: By the way, speaking of Norway, Norwegians, did you see
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: johanns Hosflatt clebo Oh?
• 38:07
  Speaker 3: Is he that crazy man that can run uphill six
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: minute miles.
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: Sub six minute mile pace uphill on skis? Did you
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: see that? Did you see him doing real?
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: You would lose, like you can't run right, you're not
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: the cardios I'm not a cardio guy.
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: No, So just.
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: Imagine you you had a straight shot, you're racing him
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: for a mile. You would lose to a guy in
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: ski gear running uphill on snow.
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: Look at Homie doing this right here. That's un believable.
• 38:36
  Speaker 4: And look at that at the top eleven miles an
• 38:38
  Speaker 4: hour right now.
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: That's crazy work crazy. I don't even know how that's possible.
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: First all the coordination to pull that off exactly. Get
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: those sticks out of my hands. Do you ever watch
• 38:49
  Speaker 3: those people? Hey, all right, I know we're going here now.
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: Uh huh?
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: What's with all the people walking around with sticks? What
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: are you doing with double sticks? Like you just walking
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: around on a neighborhood. You're walking around your neighborhood. Yeah,
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: you're not old enough, you're not elderly. What are we
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: doing with all these sticks. Put the sticks down and
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: just walk.
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: So kines used to be a thing that like everybody has.
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: I mean, if you're a pimp. Previous to that, it
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: was you wore your three piece suit, you put on
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: your for door, you took a cane out with It
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: was just because you were Yeah, it was the cool
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: thing to do. Everybody did it. And then it became pimps.
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: And now it's people walking.
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: In North Denver, Okay, not exactly, uh mountainous in North Denver.
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: I see on a daily like couples just walking around
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: with with ski poles.
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: What are we doing? If you get one of those
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: on a walk, I better see this, Like I'm better
• 39:51
  Speaker 2: see some drop, some dimp, some something, honest to God.
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: Next time I see somebody with those, I'm gonna stop
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: them and I'm gonna say, what are we?
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: What are we doing here? You ever carried? What are
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: you doing here? Have you ever carried something?
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: Though?
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: That is like long enough to where you're walking It
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: is kind of fun to push off it.
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: Okay, fine, if you want to have a little fun,
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: But a daily ski pole walk and I see it
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: all the time. I need all of you to ask
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: those people the same question. What are we doing here?
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: What is the effect? By the way, I'm pretty sure
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: this Johannes Claybow guy could beat me if I was
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: in if I had something with an engine in a car. Yeah, yeah,
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: even with an engine. I think I can imagine his
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: love capacity. Oh my god, it's gonna be unbelievable. Shout
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: out again to our uh, our women's hockey team who
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: beat the absolute hell out of Canada yesterday. Way to go.
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: You want to know an Olympic sport? Trying to find
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: the Olympics on our televisions? Oh, that's an Olympics sport.
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: Roger has been here for half an hour trying to
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: find something.
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: And not only has rog messed this up, he's too
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: short where he can't control just one TV at one time.
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: So now that's bothersome. So I got Singapore Grand Prix
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: on one of these.
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: He's living the nightmare we all live when it comes
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: to these smart TVs. Now every TV's I call them
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: dumb TVs. There's nothing smart about him. Good luck finding something? Yeah,
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: go ahead, yeah, and then make fun of us old,
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: make fun of us.
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: Now, and now I know it's gonna happen. He's too
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: frustrated and know it's just gonna turn the TV's off.
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: He's gonna walk out of here. Yeah, of course. Oh,
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: by the way, I think it's maybe the coolest giveaway
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: for a regular season game that any sports team's ever
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: had the Texas Rangers this year. You know how teams
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: get out bobbleheads or hats or something like that. I
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: got a hat at a Rockies game last year just
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: for walking in the door, walking in the gate. Not
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: they're giving away on May twenty ninth when the Rangers
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: play the Royals. Oh something about a bloody replica blood
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: stained Nolan Ryan uniform. Yes, Oh, it's when Nolan Ryan
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: took a comeback or off the mountain. Yeah, and he's
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: bleeding everywhere, stayed in the game. I have that as
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: a signed photo. By the way, if you ran one
• 41:58
  Speaker 2: of my most prized possessions, thank you, Casey, just to me.
• 42:01
  Speaker 3: He just took himself in advil, got back up on
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: a hill.
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: But yeah, you can see it. He got popped right
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: underneath the mouth there, so he's got his bottom lip
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: is split over. Kept pitching because he's Nolan Ryan and
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: nothing's gonna stop him. But they're giving a replica jerseys.
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: It's the coolest thing ever. It's amazing. Now Nolan Ryan
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: is one of my favorite baseball players of all time.
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: One of my favorite stories I've ever heard. And I
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: know I've told this on the air before, but it's good.
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: I know why they don't do it anymore, Like I
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: missed the days when they gave it. They gave away
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: prizes you could actually use, like the mini bats, right right,
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: remember the mini bats.
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: You're not old enough. I'm old.
• 42:38
  Speaker 3: I had a collection a minute, Yeah, we had, but
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: you'd go to games and give you mini bats. They
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: don't do that any more because people.
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: Got hurt, because people got drunk and hit people exactly.
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: And Nuggets games, they used to give away the mini
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: basketballs all the time. Now they'll throw a few in
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: the stands, just a few. But everybody got a mini basketball,
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: and it was the problem.
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: That people would start throwing him on the court or something.
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: I never had a problem with him. I was responsible
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: with my mini basketball. We used it to play indoor
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: nerve hoops. We collected those suckers. The fact that we
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: don't give away many basketballs anymore is a crime against humanity.
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: You know how many you know how many.
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: Young kids aspire to go to a game just to
• 43:11
  Speaker 3: get him ani basketball.
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: Here's the Nolan Ryan story that I love. By the way,
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: there was a nine hole hitter couldn't hit very well
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: fielder that Nolan Ryan threw it his head in the
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: game once like Chimmys, and he talked to him years
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: later and he goes, Dude, I'm a nine hole hitter,
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: I can't hit. Why did you throw it at my head?
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: And he said, I thought you swung too hard at
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: my fastball. That was his legit. Dude. Ah, That's why
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: I love Nolan Ryan. One last one. Oh, by the way,
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: did you see justin Verlanders back in Detroit? A little
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: homecoming for him back with the Tigers. That means Kate
• 43:49
  Speaker 2: Upton's back there too, forty two years old, so he's
• 43:52
  Speaker 2: getting up there too. But he's gonna finish out his
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: career in Detroit. And we all know Detroit's a good
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: team with a really really good rotation. Just cool story.
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: I got one more, by the way, speaking of old athletes,
• 44:04
  Speaker 3: they're getting older in the college game. Montana linebacker Solomon
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: Fjulio Pupu.
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: Okay, I'm not.
• 44:12
  Speaker 3: Sure that's how you pronounce it, But that's how it spilled.
• 44:14
  Speaker 3: Has been granted a ninth year of eligibility by the NCAA.
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: Ninth Did you hear what I said? Ninth year of eligibility? No. Nine.
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: He's now on his doctorate. He's beyond business school. He's
• 44:33
  Speaker 3: got his.
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: Make that cash, bro, I mean ninth year. Do you
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: think he still does that goes to year nine? If
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: there's no nil money? Well, he like does he just
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: like to play football?
• 44:49
  Speaker 3: He claims it's all injuries. I mean, you miss a
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: lot of undergraduate at USC He had two surgery requiring
• 44:56
  Speaker 3: injuries that impacted his seasons, so he played bits and
• 44:59
  Speaker 3: pieces of season. But after nine years, at some point,
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: are you like, okay, all right, let's go ahead.
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: Hang that socker right up one? It's nine years. I
• 45:07
  Speaker 2: mean what I mean, what are you chasing it? Nine years?
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: I mean, is it something gonna come together for you?
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: I hey, look, playing college sports is fun. I love
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: playing college baseball. I was ready to get out of college.
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: I was ready to be done. Move on, what's next.
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: It's been nine years. Nine years. By the way, Slovakia
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: is up on Finland one to nothing. Ninety nine left
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: in the first. Rog finally got to figure it out.
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: So there you go, Roger. We Avs don't have any Slovaks,
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: do we No? Okay, but we got I know we
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: had Lucky. Lucky's on that team, and so is I
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: always pronounce it wrong. Given give you Ron good take
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: back here and Miko and too uh. But they're down
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: one to nothing right now to Slovakia in the first.
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: We'll keep you updated on that back after this