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KeyForge’s NEW Alternative Formats Guide Changes EVERYTHING?! · Archons Corner

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  Speaker 2: Center of a diamond? One you might be there forever.
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  Speaker 3: Two three, you're looking for a long time. You probably
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  Speaker 3: swallowed by accident.
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  Speaker 1: First, More than likely, you guys are missing.
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  Speaker 2: Fine, you're doing those toutsy pop thing.
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  Speaker 1: Yes we know, yeah, yeah, but you're missing. It's not
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  Speaker 1: It's not even fun when.
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  Speaker 2: You no, because I don't think it's way more fun
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  Speaker 2: when we just half ignore anything you say.
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  Speaker 4: You're ignoring.
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  Speaker 1: Oh no that I don't care. I'm ignored on this
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  Speaker 1: cast all the time.
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  Speaker 3: Man, aren't we all tell me about it? Yep? Oh more,
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  Speaker 3: It's okay.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not mopie, I'm fine, I'm fine. But what's going on? Everybody?
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  Speaker 2: I'm the one, the only w oh Okay, I e
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  Speaker 2: joined here by my normal cast of misfits. He's no
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  Speaker 2: longer down in a van down by the river, but
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  Speaker 2: he's still the PhD of key Forge. That's doctor m Sheep. Hello,
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  Speaker 2: I'm told you're no longer the eloch Gist of ewoks.
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  Speaker 2: So he's like the third best ewok we know ewok.
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  Speaker 1: J oh hello, keyboards community. Glad to be third and
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  Speaker 1: no longer the deuce. It is great to be here.
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  Speaker 1: It is an amazing evening. We have Draconian measure or
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  Speaker 1: draz Conian measures in our hands, and vaults are approaching.
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  Speaker 1: This is a great time of the year. We love
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  Speaker 1: you all.
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  Speaker 2: Speaking of draz Conean measures, the Sleepy Dragon himself, dras Corps.
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  Speaker 2: He guys, how sleepy are your dragons?
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  Speaker 3: They're pretty sleepy. They keep getting exhausted because I keep
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  Speaker 3: going up against other sleepy dragons or unfathomable, which keeps
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  Speaker 3: making all my cards very tired.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so they turned ninety degrees to the right. Well, well,
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  Speaker 2: well most of the line. If you're crazy, if your wild,
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  Speaker 2: like dras Corps is. He's a real rebel there, you know,
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  Speaker 2: turns everything to the left. But I guess what we're
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  Speaker 2: talking about today is alternative formats. This was released April
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  Speaker 2: twenty ninth, twenty twenty six, and just for Jam it
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  Speaker 2: is currently five seven, twenty twenty six. I was asked
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  Speaker 2: to state the dates.
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  Speaker 3: Why so, so like, you know, five thousand years from now,
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  Speaker 3: when they're like this is the I think JAM gets
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  Speaker 3: confused pericon of all podcasts.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's it's July. It's July fifth, five to seven. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: July fifth, that's not I yeah, we work in freedom
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  Speaker 2: units here, sir.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, we just insane ordering of things.
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  Speaker 2: We're on the freedom calendar here, sir.
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  Speaker 3: It's right, yeah, next th.
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  Speaker 4: Alternate format.
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  Speaker 3: See, oh my god. See I am not the only one.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not the only It wasn't an article they didn't
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  Speaker 2: even release.
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  Speaker 3: They didn't even release.
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  Speaker 1: Well, there was an article call just prepare for Vault
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  Speaker 1: Tour twenty twenty six, Portland, pretty straightforward.
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  Speaker 2: Us in Portland's this should have is that the article.
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  Speaker 1: I can't disagree with you there, but it is the.
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  Speaker 4: Maybe he's still writing, all right, yeah my document I
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  Speaker 4: don't care about.
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  Speaker 2: And also a lot of things have changed. But oh
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  Speaker 2: maybe it didn't. I don't know, because Portland, I feel
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  Speaker 2: like we've gotten this some of this already. I'm not sure.
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  Speaker 2: The Vault Master twenty six decks are ugly. Teal Hey, awesome,
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  Speaker 2: Not this, deeal. It's a very ugly. Like it's like
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  Speaker 2: the teal you'd put in your.
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  Speaker 1: It's not a standard deep blue teal. It's more of
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  Speaker 1: a greenish LGA teal.
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  Speaker 3: Next year. This is like what you like your grandma
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  Speaker 3: puts in her bathroom.
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  Speaker 2: This is like the kind of color that Wookie would
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  Speaker 2: choose for a jersey for the AC team.
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  Speaker 3: Oh you would choose right, it bobs out.
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  Speaker 1: I do need one of these boxes though, for my
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  Speaker 1: wall of shame, I mean wall. So if anyone gets it,
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  Speaker 1: let's let's go ahead.
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  Speaker 3: And so did they.
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  Speaker 2: I you know, I did not read this article about
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  Speaker 2: Portland because it's said Portland, and I immediately didn't care.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I'll be there.
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  Speaker 4: That looks super photoshopped in so there's a fair chance
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  Speaker 4: that is not what the box will look like.
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  Speaker 3: Listen, they just typed into chat GPT. Can you make
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  Speaker 3: me up you know well that this is this is
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  Speaker 3: just photoshop, that's not I don't think you need chat
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  Speaker 3: GPT for this. They had this and they just and
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  Speaker 3: then there it is, right. How did that That's what
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  Speaker 3: photoshop sounds like?
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  Speaker 4: Right?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, they just they just highlighted the image they
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  Speaker 3: had of the box. They did control C, control V,
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  Speaker 3: and they put the one over the other man.
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  Speaker 4: Guys, it's got the same it's got the same die
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  Speaker 4: cut on the back of it as the Draconian measures box.
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  Speaker 2: Guys, there is a digital schedule. Yeah, I would appreciate this.
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  Speaker 2: It has times laid out.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, this is amazing insight this this showed up later,
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  Speaker 1: but I love it. Beautiful.
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  Speaker 2: Great job, gig in eleven am. Registration begins, eleven twenty five.
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  Speaker 2: Registration ends eleven thirty. Deck building begins twelve o'clock. Deck
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  Speaker 2: building ends. Round one paired well.
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  Speaker 1: But even the idea that it's digital so it can
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  Speaker 1: be updated for what the needs are. I really appreciate this,
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  Speaker 1: and it's coming to time, so great job.
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  Speaker 2: Saturday May sixteenth are Condon Alliance qualifiers ten AM registration.
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  Speaker 3: So you can see are conon Alliance top cuts.
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  Speaker 1: I know this is odd, but you can see small
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  Speaker 1: nuances that actually make this that extra special. You have
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  Speaker 1: your game store, so for Portland it's guarding games. You
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  Speaker 1: can see their event hours so when they're normally open,
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  Speaker 1: and a store so if if it all else fails
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  Speaker 1: and you're run late, something else happens. Yes, we have individuals,
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  Speaker 1: but just having the contact information at all on one
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  Speaker 1: spot and having in digital I really appreciate.
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  Speaker 2: I really appreciate these times. Yeah, dras Car, I'm gonna
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  Speaker 2: need you with like a watch on so you can
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  Speaker 2: see how close they were to these times. A watch
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  Speaker 2: does that is that where I like glue my phone
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  Speaker 2: to my wrist. Is that that works, that'll work? Okay,
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  Speaker 2: totally works. But what was the over under on how fat,
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  Speaker 2: how how quickly we were going to get what the
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  Speaker 2: side events were going to be? Well, they're here, they're here,
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  Speaker 2: but I over I wanted to all the over under you.
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  Speaker 1: Said, you said they weren't coming, and I said they
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  Speaker 1: would be two weeks and I did.
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  Speaker 3: Say I did.
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  Speaker 2: I think you said more than two weeks out. But
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  Speaker 2: it looks like your side events will be sealed Adaptive,
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  Speaker 2: oh joy and Standard on Sunday, and I'm sorry Arc
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  Speaker 2: on quick Forge on Friday, with Adaptive on Saturday and
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  Speaker 2: Packed Draft Standard on Sunday, which we will talk about
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  Speaker 2: all of these in a little bit mm hmm.
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, this digital skill my mind just.
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  Speaker 2: Originally because we're going to talk about all of the
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  Speaker 2: new I guess formats, alternate you know, alternative formats that
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  Speaker 2: have just kind of been pushed out here on the
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  Speaker 2: twenty ninth, And my whole idea just goes to when
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  Speaker 2: Drascore is like, which will break first two l O
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  Speaker 2: or Alliance? Now the question is which which one of
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  Speaker 2: these will replace? Alliance?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, but I think this is smart that we
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  Speaker 1: can see who's interested in which of the side formats.
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  Speaker 1: They have a nice pool that Okay, people are coming
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  Speaker 1: out to the vaults, they're playing in this event. It's
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  Speaker 1: drawing a large number. But when these side events pull
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  Speaker 1: more individuals than one of our main format, it's it
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  Speaker 1: would be reason to be able to say, hey, that
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  Speaker 1: main event should go away. Correct, So now we would
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  Speaker 1: have evidence for CTP and anyone else.
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  Speaker 3: Who's question hold on. I think this is a.
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  Speaker 1: Very I think this is a very smart, smart choice.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not saying it's not smart, but you're really only
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  Speaker 2: giving one choice per day, so by and large it's yes,
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  Speaker 2: it's probably going to outpace a format altogether because if
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  Speaker 2: you have none, because I know, I know how this
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  Speaker 2: is going to go, and a lot of people are
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  Speaker 2: going to be like, sheep, I got nothing else to do,
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  Speaker 2: I'll play in this event. I've been forty two chains.
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  Speaker 3: Well, well get to I know.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, but because of yeah, they de sheeped it.
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  Speaker 3: They dehooved the sheep.
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  Speaker 1: So I mean you are you're kind of all over
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  Speaker 1: the board, which is pretty normal with this year. This
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  Speaker 1: this is eight. So yes, we have a digital schedule.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's great. There are main tournaments, and there's
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  Speaker 1: our side events, there is sealed groups, and it is
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  Speaker 1: all here that you can go ahead and click on
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  Speaker 1: and be able to follow. If you're not and you've
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  Speaker 1: never seen keyboarding dot com, go check it out. So
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  Speaker 1: that I think is the highlights there. What do you yes,
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  Speaker 1: we have vault Master twenty six that's there. Do you
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  Speaker 1: want to talk about the main tournaments, which we know
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  Speaker 1: are the three? You can see the prizes that's been
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  Speaker 1: a big complaints that was pushed out at like what
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  Speaker 1: do we actually have available? What do you guys think
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  Speaker 1: of the actual prizing that's there?
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  Speaker 2: Where are the which okay, there's like a lot going
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  Speaker 2: on here. Where are the prizes?
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  Speaker 1: That actually says under Discover, Shining Treasure and main tournaments,
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  Speaker 1: every participant who ascends to the top eight and the
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  Speaker 1: main events will be a word to Keyboard vault Masters
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  Speaker 1: decks with special markings, placement pins and place sint MAT's.
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  Speaker 1: It is very very very very general. I think that's
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  Speaker 1: something that they could have done a better job with
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  Speaker 1: in my opinion. And then it says all participants in
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  Speaker 1: each tournament will get contender digital deck.
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  Speaker 2: Accolades, so that's the same, it's all the same.
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  Speaker 1: That is all the same, but again a large grouping
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  Speaker 1: of individuals, like what is actually available for first three eighth.
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  Speaker 1: I think first is pretty well established, but what's really there,
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  Speaker 1: especially after the debacle at KFC for Worlds, it would
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  Speaker 1: be really nice to say here is what you have.
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  Speaker 1: Now you do have a better listing if you go
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  Speaker 1: back to I don't know what the technical name is
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  Speaker 1: that we had, but it listed what the It's not prizing,
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  Speaker 1: but it's what's going to happen for the just a
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  Speaker 1: real bad radio. They actually add the listing because like
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  Speaker 1: under side events, it lists all of the decks used
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  Speaker 1: as entry fees to enter side events will be added
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  Speaker 1: to the prize pool to be distributed among the top half,
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  Speaker 1: so basically all top half of entrance. You have huge
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  Speaker 1: reason to be able to come back and play. You
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  Speaker 1: have quite a bit to gain from it. But for
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  Speaker 1: the actual main events, they they had a distribution of
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  Speaker 1: based on how many players. That's why we can have
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  Speaker 1: the digital schedule, So this all does fit together. You
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  Speaker 1: can actually see a digital schedule based on your player account,
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  Speaker 1: how many rounds you're going to play.
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  Speaker 2: Oh you're talking about the cuts.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and that that's where again you can actually streamline
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  Speaker 1: what the prize was.
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  Speaker 3: Not sure what exactly you.
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  Speaker 1: No, it wasn't.
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  Speaker 2: It wasn't crystal clear, but we have a the tournament
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  Speaker 2: would be not update. So three to eight is three rounds,
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  Speaker 2: nine to sixteen is four, seven to thirty two is
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  Speaker 2: five cuts. It yeah, top eight, top eight, Top eight,
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  Speaker 2: top eight, top sixteen, top sixteen.
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  Speaker 1: Did it list the actual prizing though, based on those
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  Speaker 1: it any prising?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it just said here's how many rounds you are, Like,
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  Speaker 2: nine to sixteen will be four rounds cuts to a
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  Speaker 2: top four, seven to thirty two, five rounds cuts to.
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  Speaker 3: A top eight.
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  Speaker 2: I think the most common one we had last year
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  Speaker 2: was thirty three to sixty four and that's six rounds
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  Speaker 2: and cuts to a top eight sixty five to one
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  Speaker 2: twenty eight, which I don't think we've ever gone back
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  Speaker 2: into the hundreds, have we out you've hit outside of
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  Speaker 2: KFC had no vault tours. That's seven rounds and that
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  Speaker 2: cuts to a top eight.
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  Speaker 3: Well, the original, the original Philadelphia, Yeah, it was the
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  Speaker 3: very first one did with the double elim we haven't
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  Speaker 3: had any in like the past two years, year and
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  Speaker 3: a half. No, not since the very first one GG
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  Speaker 3: held people like only shit, what was that?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's it's been a while since we've been
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  Speaker 2: into the hundreds. So more than likely you'll probably, I guess,
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  Speaker 2: prepare for six rounds and you will cut to a
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  Speaker 2: top eight at some after After round six.
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  Speaker 1: I will say, I would still this is a step
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  Speaker 1: in the right direction. This is great. I would like
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  Speaker 1: to see here's the distribution of I'm expecting to see
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  Speaker 1: whatever the amount of boxes is split up for the
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  Speaker 1: top eight and then have a breakdown.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, it's been pretty consistent if I remember correctly,
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  Speaker 2: Like first gets two boxes, second gets a box.
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  Speaker 1: It has been consistent, but it's not stated. Does that
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  Speaker 1: make sense? That's what I want? Is I want it stated?
• 14:41
  Speaker 2: For for those of you that have not been to
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  Speaker 2: a Vault Tour, here is what to expect when expecting correct, right,
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  Speaker 2: I can?
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  Speaker 3: I didn't.
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  Speaker 2: I can.
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  Speaker 3: So you're pregnant at the volt tour? Is that what
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  Speaker 3: you're saying?
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  Speaker 2: Could be I don't know who's going to a Vault tours? Well, true,
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  Speaker 2: you know, but like, but like you could walk away
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  Speaker 2: with two boxes and then maybe you have like a
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  Speaker 2: sheep with a box underneath like each arm, like you know,
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  Speaker 2: holding them with his big smile.
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  Speaker 1: The reason this is very standard for many other games.
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  Speaker 1: I know sheep is not enticed by prizing, and he's
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  Speaker 1: he's snoring over on the side. He's getting his z's.
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  Speaker 1: See there you go. However, there are individuals that if
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  Speaker 1: they see what the prizing is, it can detract that
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  Speaker 1: they're not going to come. But others are like, hey, this,
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  Speaker 1: I know what I'm looking forward to, and they dream
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  Speaker 1: of that, and so they're going to go hide and
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  Speaker 1: and come out for that reason. So it pushes some
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  Speaker 1: people away, but it does attract others. I just want this.
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  Speaker 2: Sheep just likes online ball fluffing. He's like, do I
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  Speaker 2: get my picture and a key for age article where
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  Speaker 2: I'm smiling that I took first. I'm in right, Like,
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  Speaker 2: that's that's sheep smiling.
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  Speaker 4: That's not gonna happen.
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  Speaker 2: He is, unlike I think, or we have a cardboard
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  Speaker 2: cut of him smiling, we can just replace it with
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  Speaker 2: that sheep.
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  Speaker 1: So I think the other low hanging fruit here is
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  Speaker 1: the sealed groups will skip side events for a split second.
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  Speaker 1: But sealed groups players who participate in the sealed group
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  Speaker 1: casual play can expect to win keyboards, ballt Master twenty
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  Speaker 1: six x with special markings. Awesome. So notice you're not
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  Speaker 1: just getting a straight VM. You're getting here's here's the location,
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  Speaker 1: which again that has been an idea for a while.
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  Speaker 3: It doesn't necessarily it says with special.
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  Speaker 1: It says special. It does taste could just.
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  Speaker 4: Be like if you sucker you bought more VM.
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  Speaker 3: Well hopefully hopefully.
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  Speaker 1: I agree that that's what it could say, but it's
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  Speaker 1: probably just it's probably geotagged.
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  Speaker 2: It would be cool if they like, I don't know
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  Speaker 2: what to add to like the special taggings, right if
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  Speaker 2: they had, if they you know, as opposed to just
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  Speaker 2: being geotagged, like what else they could do with that
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  Speaker 2: idea where you could have some of the format or
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  Speaker 2: something something like that.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: They also put Yeah, they also put in the idea
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  Speaker 1: of one ticket just for participating, so tickets in some
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  Speaker 1: sort of modified price wall has to be there. Those
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  Speaker 1: are things that we can take away from.
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  Speaker 2: And Sealed Drazz Drazz score will be draconian measures.
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  Speaker 3: Woo yep. That's exciting.
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  Speaker 2: So for those of you wondering, yes, your sealed event,
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  Speaker 2: at least for Portland at this current time, will be
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: Draconian Measures, because there was talk about it being a
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  Speaker 2: totally different set and a set that's never been played before,
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  Speaker 2: and that was when we didn't know if we were
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  Speaker 2: going to have d I'm in time for Portland and now.
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  Speaker 1: We're Crucible Clash for the whole year. I love seeing
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  Speaker 1: Draconi Measures and as the main set, that's what I
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  Speaker 1: want to see. So great job getting it out and
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  Speaker 1: I look forward to playing it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. The so what what do you think about the
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  Speaker 3: side event section? This this mention of effectively that sounds
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  Speaker 3: like you are like, if you go to the sealed
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  Speaker 3: side event, you're paying an entry fee with like a
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  Speaker 3: sealed deck.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so why don't we Why don't we go ahead
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  Speaker 1: and read that? And I think this is what we're
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  Speaker 1: going to spend the time because I think it's interesting.
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  Speaker 1: So walkbots here, side events a walking here. Yeah, all
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  Speaker 1: the decks, all the decks use as entry fees to
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  Speaker 1: enter side events will be added to the prize pool
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  Speaker 1: to be distributed among the top half of all entrants.
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: Ghost Galaxy will be contributing side event winner playmats to
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  Speaker 1: the highest ranked players and a progressively increasing number of
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  Speaker 1: sealed keyboards your cronium measures decks to the prize pool.
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  Speaker 1: Ghost Galaxy will contribute up to two displays for a
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  Speaker 1: full thirty two person side event. Look at that, like,
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  Speaker 1: we get two boxes two displays for thirty two people
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  Speaker 1: or higher. You have the sealed side event winner, Matt.
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: That is like something specific. This looks great, guys. Ghost
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: Galaxy is replacing the second Amber raffles of previous years
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: with raffle entry tickets awarded to players who participate in
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: side events. But if you look top half of everybody's
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: walking me with something. But I think dras what you
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: were hinting at is all the decks uses entry fuse
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: to enter side events will be added to the prize
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: pool to be distributed.
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: Mhm, top half of entrance, which which is interesting. So
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: I mean this sounds for me, like me personally, this
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: sounds like very cool, like okay, like some additional cool
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: thing you could win for the side events. And I
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: you know, I've got lots of I've got two thousand
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: dollars worth of inventure decks over here, so you know
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: I can uh, I could bring a few extras to
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: throw into the bowl. Maybe I'll get the back or
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: you know, I don't know, you could walk away with more.
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: Well exactly, so I mean that, I mean that sounds
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: very cool. However, I wonder, like will this actually work?
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: Like here, Here's what I'm wondering, right, So my question
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: is what does this mean? Explain this to me, like,
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: I'm five, all, So, if I buy a deck, does
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: that mean GG is putting in a deck as into
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: the pool.
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: No, I think it means.
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: When you sign up for the sealed event, you bring
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: two decks, one you're playing and one you're putting in
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: the prize pool. Yeah, which means I think it means.
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: I think so too.
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: So I bring my own deck and then GG adds
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: one to the prize pool.
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: No, no, no, you bring multiple decks, and then depending
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: on the number of people who signed up, GG adds
• 20:58
  Speaker 4: more decks on top of that. Right, the short it
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: cost you fifteen dollars to enter the event by way
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: of giving them another deck that you are surprising.
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: Yes, we don't. We don't. Actually we don't actually know
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: for sure, so this is all conjecture. But so, how
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: how the players in the community are seeing this is
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: that we are adding decks to the prize school, you're
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: bringing a deck, like because some of the side events
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: are Okay, I'm playing Adaptive, I bring my deck and
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: then I.
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: Add one that I pay. It's going to add one
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: that makes sense. Yeah, here's what I guess. I was
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: more in the mind of these would more be sealed,
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: but they're not.
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: They are.
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: One is Adaptive, one is quick Forge, and.
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: It could be sealed, yes, but in.
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: General not like for Portland, you're having quick for ARCon
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: quick Forge, which say.
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: Or got there as go ahead because we keep gotting.
• 22:01
  Speaker 3: So what I'm worried about is the folks like this
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: is extra spend, so like like I have a whole
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: ton of decks, I'll just bring some extra decks with me, right,
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: or I'll just buy them there, right because I you know,
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: I'm a junkie, But I do think folks that are
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: on a tighter budget might be like, I'm already paying
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: to come to the event. Do I want to buy
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: another deck in order to enter this event? Like that
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: could in theory, like like comes Sunday, they're like, well
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: do somebody could be like, well, do I want to
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: pay more to like participate or am I just gonna
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: like head out early, like I do. Wonder if some
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: people will be hesitant to to keep dishing out, you know,
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: buying decks, whereas.
• 22:52
  Speaker 4: Some people aren't going to want to spend more money.
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: I might be I'll be fine, but you know, because
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: I'm junkie, I think we'll see extra cost.
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: Side events is normal at most. Yeah, other card game things,
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: it is normal.
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: I don't go to those things. But here's my question
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: is are they going to tell us what deck we
• 23:13
  Speaker 4: have to pay as anti or can I just bring
• 23:16
  Speaker 4: my box at ao A and be anti dollars.
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: So it does not say anything. I do not have
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: any information that's a great idea of that.
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: But I will tell you I will captive one says
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: because it's sealed adaptive. So a side tournament that allows
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: either player to bid change for the right to play
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: either of the decks brought to the match requires an
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: additional entry fee of one sealed Draconian Measures deck, so
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: that's what you have to bring. The players will also
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: need to purchase one sealed deck from a tournament legal
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: keyfoard set, so you have to give them a DM
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: deck and then you can bring whatever sealed deck you
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: got from a legal keyboard set, So he can hand
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: a DM deck right and then play a.
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: Yes, we understand it means not unchained and menagerie. We
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: got that.
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: Yes, oh yeah those exists, right, But yeah he could.
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: He could definitely be like, yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: bring my I'm gonna I'm gonna play.
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: To pay aoay as the anti and.
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: No, you cannot as the antie. You have to play
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: the DM.
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: Is this the next secret to all these sealed side
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: events where you can now win prizes for for finishing?
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: Means your secret supply of PV that you can open
• 24:37
  Speaker 4: is just putting you in a stronger position.
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, nobody's got a secret supply of PV.
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: We do, lots of people do. Mister perfect got all
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: kinds of decks, I know, sealed away in his creeper
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: vault down in the basement with all.
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: Anyways, you don't want to continue on that line of.
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: All right, well he caught himself slightly. No, I four
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: four sealed does it not talk about what sets can
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: be played?
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: It says in what.
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I was going I'm quickly going through the TRG
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: again because I.
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: Was pretty what are you looking for? What sets can
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: to be played? And what what was your question?
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: I mean, so under the TRG, it says legal sets.
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: The following keyboard sets are tournament legal for official organized play.
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: So yes, I think that is going to write it.
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: I thought that when we were talking when we're playing sealeds,
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: because they had the stipulation for the different stores that
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: you would play within the last three sets essentially, except
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: there was.
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: A rule right in there unless the store has some
• 25:53
  Speaker 4: reason to do something else, and then you basically do
• 25:55
  Speaker 4: whatever you want.
• 25:57
  Speaker 3: Correct.
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: But that's why I was trying to look in the
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: TRG to see if they're actually going to put as
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: the latest three sets. I think uh GG has a
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: significant advantage with the recent sets that they're playing versus
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: old f FG sets. But I was curious, and so
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: that's why I was quicker.
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: I mean legal, it says turn legal sets. Amber Sky's
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: aoa call the Arc cons Crystal Clash, DT Discovery has
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: a legal set. Reminders mass mutation, more mutation, PV talk
• 26:31
  Speaker 2: whoa World's Collide and all the vault masters are turnament.
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: But do you guys, do you guys remember for sealed
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: where it had talked about the last three sets.
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I remember what you're you're talking about, but that
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: was never a real rule. That was just them trying
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: to say play the news stuff.
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: And I think again that's why I went to the
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: t RG. I see TRG as everything. So yes, you
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: can play if you like old f FG sets, play
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: them in.
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: Your and then you can bid that PV deck up
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: real high with chains because they don't want to play
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: AOA and then be like.
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: Sucker, You're just gonna play against Pete who won't even
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: big chains because he doesn't want to play your PV garbage.
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: Or I mean, that's I guess a possibility.
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: All right, So shall we go ahead and list all
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: that was in what is now our new AFG or
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: Alternative Formats Guide. I like that they put it out.
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: This is April twenty ninth, twenty twenty six. We don't
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: need to read all of it, but just what you're
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: expecting to see as we kind of tournament types, what
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: are available? Those are our standards tournament methods. That's where
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: we have that new section. A tournament method defines additional
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: gameplay rules and is using conjunction with the type to
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: establish overall rules. What are we looking at anyway, Buehler,
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: your question adaptive, So we have adaptive that is listed.
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: There you have.
• 28:03
  Speaker 4: Again.
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: I was confused his question too, because like tournament types, sealed.
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: Alliance, that's how they that's how they have.
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: Hold on because we haven't talked about it yet, but
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: Draft is also under a tournament type.
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: Yes, it's a I'm just trying to list them adapt.
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: Well, hold on because because type you have sealed Ark
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: Alliance draft.
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: No, yes, yes.
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: Your tournament type. That's where I already went through sealed
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: arc on Alliance and Draft. Yes, tournament method is different.
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: Though, yes, right, I think it's the wrong thing before
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: he never used the word method, but I think he did.
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: He didn't. Okay, we were all just not paying attention
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: to you.
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: Easy enough to go back, rewind the car, purchase the
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: records left.
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: He just had a big thumbs up that I'm right.
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: So Peter, Peter rewind back, showing how wrong you walk is.
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: It's okay, yeah, what creature? None of us will ever
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: know remember what creatures? Creature coming from?
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: You care enough to talk about the type because you
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: focused on that for Draft as it is in the
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: main section for sealed.
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: Yes, because it is new. It is added. Before we
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: had three main types. We had Sealed, we had ARCon,
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: and we had Alliance. They're adding a type. That's I
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: think that's kind of a big deal. We haven't talked
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: about draft yet. We will talk about draft, but it
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: is it is a brand new type. That means that
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: this can be introduced into you know, into the wild.
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: Now we can.
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: Now you tell me about method, tell me all about it.
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: Well, I want to know what draft is at this point.
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: Though, Well, we'll get there, we'll get there.
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: I want I want to get there right now.
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: All right? You ready? Do we want to go? I mean,
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: I don't know much about it. Yeah.
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: Each player uses a quantity of cards outlined by the
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: variants selected by the tournament organizer. You must have enough
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: sleeves someone of the same collar.
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: Stickers are provided by the event organizer. Stickers. Because of
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: the nature of draft, fixed decklists do not exist. What
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: event organizers may require a player to submit a written
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: decklist after the draft phase. In case decklists are kept hidden,
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: each player must make their available houses known to their
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: opponent at all times. Variants Draft type tournaments may be
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: one of two distinct variants that alter the rules regarding
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: card acquisition. The variants are pack draft in Cube draft.
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: Now we've seen Cube Draft. A number of people really
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: enjoy Cube Draft, but the audience, Yeah, but this pack
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: draft was like what where? What? It's definitely something if
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: you've played Magic, if you played yu gi oh, if
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: you've played other CCGs TCGs, like, pack draft is definitely
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: something that happens there. But what is that for key Forge?
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: And it says players bring or are provided four house
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: packs from keyboarde sets allowed by the event organizer. Draft
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: sets will be created from all the house packs that
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: are brought by all players deconducting a pack draft for
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: detailed rules.
• 31:35
  Speaker 4: Hey, so now to go down there and read some
• 31:37
  Speaker 4: detailed rules.
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: All right? Read detailed rules?
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: What key Ford with steam what?
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 31:45
  Speaker 4: But you're drafting about drafting now, we've talked about GILB,
• 31:49
  Speaker 4: but this isn't.
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: New no, no, no, But for pack draft, it's four
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: house packs.
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: That doesn't put the rules down here?
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: All right, go ahead and we'll.
• 31:58
  Speaker 4: Make it makes sense.
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: Read those rules, friend.
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: I'm reading them right now silently.
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: This is the best that we can do. Enjoy that
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: our cast.
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: Ah, So this is configurating so basically such reading and a.
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: Pack draft tournament, players will draft cards from a single
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: keyfarde sat over two rounds dose round those just like
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: after drafting US complete, players use the cards they have
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: drafted to assemble a key forge consisting of thirty six
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: cards from three different houses, using exactly twelve cards per house.
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: Draft back pack drafting supports either a group of tournament.
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: UH supports either group tournament with four to eight players
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: per group, or a large Swiss style tournament where players
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: are paired in a more traditional tournament structure are now
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: drafting phase.
• 33:07
  Speaker 3: After the drafting phase.
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: Donation to the swear jar right there, I'm fine with
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: that one.
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: Boy. Wow, So what's crazy to me? Because it then
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: it goes into the tournament overview and I was like, okay,
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: you sign groups. Yeah, you set it up all right,
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: the big five minutes each, right, You're not gonn put
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: them less than five minutes draft phase fifty minutes. I
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: was like, whoa wow, So I mean.
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's a draft phase is one of
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: the longest phases.
• 33:42
  Speaker 4: Well it really, it takes as long as it takes,
• 33:44
  Speaker 4: but at fifty minutes, you just give everybody DQ's and
• 33:47
  Speaker 4: you go to the next event.
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: I guess I guess, like, what, like, how so I
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: have not draft the draft phase players Magic since like
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: nineteen ninety nine or something, So what like how long
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: does Magic draft tag? Is it fifty minutes?
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: Probably is that it probably is now that long? Well, okay,
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: let's be honest. It really depends on who you're drafting with, right,
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: and there are the cards, because.
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: Like drafting with e Walk, maybe it will take that long.
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: You can continue to throw me under the boss. We'll
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: see how this one goes for you.
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: Well, because because like there is a certain draft meta,
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: right that like that each set kind of evolves and
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: you know, you start to know what you're looking for
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: right as you go through cards. So could it take
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: fifteen minutes? Yeah, if you have eight people, it could.
• 34:43
  Speaker 2: I could definitely see it taking up to fifteen minutes. Okay, Okay,
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: I guess you take cards.
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: It is what we're saying like different groups of update.
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: I think it's what we said before. So okay, I think.
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: Draft phase GOO all players look at the cards in
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: the draft set assigned to them and select three cards
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: from the set. These cards go face down on the
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: table and become part of the pool. So you're not
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: selecting one like in Magic, you're selecting three.
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: Okay. Players passed the releaning cards of the draft set, right,
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: I like. I think if it was one at a time,
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: that would probably be even longer, but three to time
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: feels like you can pick some combos more easily. So
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: I'm crying.
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: Players pass the remaining cards of the draft set to
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: the player on their left or on their right. Round one,
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: Round two players continue to select three cards from each
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: subsequent draft set, passing the remainder in the specific direction.
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: Well that's right or left players. I'm sorry. Once the
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: last three cards of the set have been drafted, the
• 35:57
  Speaker 2: round is over. I players have only completed run around.
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: The facilitator hands out draft sets for round two and
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: repeat step one through four.
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: But did Maybe I missed it because I was going
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: ahead and Skanning was going through. These draft sets are
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: thirty card draft sets?
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: Correct?
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 36:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah, like that I'm standing out.
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: That should stand out as a big change. We have
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: a thirty six card deck that we're playing with. You
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: may have a pint of cards, it's not.
• 36:30
  Speaker 4: Each player will announced which four houses they selected from
• 36:34
  Speaker 4: their house packs.
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: YEP, I thought each pack was one house.
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: Dude, No, this number one, like there's this.
• 36:45
  Speaker 4: Is going to require a full read and rock and
• 36:48
  Speaker 4: not try to explain this shit live on Airwell, we're
• 36:52
  Speaker 4: trying to understand what they're trying to say in this.
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: I will say some of us did read it ahead
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: of time and actually went through it, but it will
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: I think that going ahead and seeing Drazz what happens
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: at Portland and how it's run, I think it'll be
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: fine once you're there, but there's some interesting choices and
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: I'm very curious to see how it is run. So
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: it made me laugh for the additional draft phase rules,
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: because what always happens is you have inevitably some player
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: who's a little bit slower and they'll stack up. But
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: that's what happens, right, and so you can see that
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: you guys can continue to throw the bus. That's not
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: the case. But you see it for board games in
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: four Card Game two and it was very interesting to
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: see incorrectly separating cards, returning cards to draft sets, or
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: mixing draft sets and card pools are considered forms of cheating.
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: And then each player should have no more than a
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: single draft set waiting for them beyond the current set
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: they're considering. So yes, I love need these rules so
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: that it doesn't become stagnant and it's not backed up.
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: So my question too is like, if I want to
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: do a draft at my local LGS, how do I
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: obtain these draft packs.
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: Together?
• 38:16
  Speaker 4: Well, if a card with an enhanced keyword, it's included
• 38:19
  Speaker 4: in a final deck, the player will receive special sleeves
• 38:21
  Speaker 4: with stickers that match them and will now show and
• 38:26
  Speaker 4: like the bonus icons. Get Rea signed.
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: Yes, yes, one thousand percent. This is something that in
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: my opinion is.
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: This sounds like a cluster all does just to wait
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: to blank house cards, I'm.
• 38:43
  Speaker 4: I just read blank house. My question here is just
• 38:46
  Speaker 4: as a question dual house cards. Do they go with
• 38:51
  Speaker 4: their original house or with an enhanced house.
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: Or question.
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: There.
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: Originally I think, like you have the card, you're just
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: adding additional icons, right, You're not writing you get the choice.
• 39:07
  Speaker 4: The card is now functionally both houses every game, So
• 39:13
  Speaker 4: I'm just saying like.
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: It it is. But how this is actually listed, how
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: it's actually written, how I read it and and it
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: is different from other people, is that I get the
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: house enhanced PIP and I get to choose the exact
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: card that I get to put it on, which makes
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: it that the card that it went to. You may
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: love that shape, but it's not going there. I get
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: to choose, and I think, I think that makes well.
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: It could be that card.
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: It could be that card, but I'm not getting if
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: there is one enhanced if there's one house enhanced PIP,
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: I get the choice of where to put that house
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: enhanced PIP. It could be on the same card that
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: it made it into, or I could to a completely
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: different car enhancement ignoring no, yeah, yes, yes, read it.
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: How do you know that?
• 40:04
  Speaker 4: With enhanced thing?
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: But I'm not even joking, like that's how I read
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: this if a player with an enhanced keyword is included
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: in the final deck created by a player, because what's
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: going to happen is you're drafting cards. Those cards go
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: into a pool, and then from that pool, you're essentially
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: making your deck.
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: Wait wait, wait, so you're saying if I get a
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: card that has an enhanced ember PIP already printed on to.
• 40:26
  Speaker 4: Give you that, I haven't remember.
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: Remember that enhancements could event stamp their deck, which provided
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: the book the events staff will count out the sleeves
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: need to provide to that player.
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: Each player, I'm sorry it was up here.
• 40:45
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: If that player will receive a special will receive special
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: sleeves with a sticker that matches each bonus icon provided
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: by that card.
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so what you're actually looking for is you're right, No,
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: all of the enhance that show up on those cards,
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: in my opinion, they're gone. They don't count. You're not
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: seeing them, you're not using them. Instead, Instead, what you're
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: actually doing is any of the enhance any of the
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: cards that provide the enhancements now have a huge value
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: because in your pool you get to assign them. Now
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: you're assigning one per card until all of your deck
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: is filled up. But still that is where you can
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: completely break this game to put a house enhancement, or
• 41:29
  Speaker 1: to put certain things that will recur, and I think
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: it becomes interesting. But that's what I'm seeing from these rules.
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: So all right, I have a question. Yes, so I
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: draft uh Palaeogene Society, which comes with a natural ember
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: printed on it? Does it no longer have an ember
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: on it?
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: No?
• 41:50
  Speaker 4: No, no a natural one, it's just the enhanced ones.
• 41:52
  Speaker 4: Go away?
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 41:53
  Speaker 3: I have a question. I get Degenerate Decor, which does
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: not have a natural umber pip. However, the one I
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: rafted does have an umber pip pard.
• 42:02
  Speaker 4: Does not have that amber pip unless you use an
• 42:05
  Speaker 4: amber pips from an enhanced card.
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: To my goodness, so I don't remember. I have to
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: remember if this card comes with a natural pip or not.
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: No, they are remember that enhanced pimps there they come
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: up like they come up blue.
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they're different.
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: They're they're different colors slightly from looking closely.
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: So what's going to happen is that when you put
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: your deck forward, they should have they should have stickers
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: that are going to block off any of the extra
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: enhancements that are.
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: How do you block on the extra enhancements?
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: Well, if they have stickers to add the enhancements, they
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: have stickers that are generic to block off.
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: Right, Oh so I add a blocking sticker.
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: That's how I would see it.
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: But oh my.
• 42:47
  Speaker 4: Goodness, this is uh this is so have fun at port.
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: I do think just additive that would be more fun.
• 42:58
  Speaker 4: Pete has added this little like blurb from uh so
• 43:02
  Speaker 4: flattis or however you say his yeah sure where they where?
• 43:09
  Speaker 4: It kind of sounds like it might come out as
• 43:14
  Speaker 4: like a box designed to do this with it, where
• 43:17
  Speaker 4: like cards wouldn't have enhancements, and it would come with
• 43:19
  Speaker 4: inner sleeves or stickers or some crap to do your thing,
• 43:24
  Speaker 4: and there could be a community for this. I just
• 43:27
  Speaker 4: know I'm not it.
• 43:28
  Speaker 3: So I could say if it's additive, right, So let's
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: say my degenerate decor already has an ember pip on it,
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: like added to enhancement and bubble up enhancements because your advanced.
• 43:40
  Speaker 2: Well yes, because that was my next question was because like,
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: well it is stickers. It's not sleeves.
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: I don't know. Maybe it's a sleeve of sticks. I
• 43:50
  Speaker 3: don't know. That was like what if?
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: What if?
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: What if?
• 43:53
  Speaker 4: It says sleeves in this thing? I know?
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: But in his thing it says stickers.
• 43:59
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's going to start as stickers until
• 44:03
  Speaker 4: sleeves get printed.
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: It says here this the player may place additional bonus
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: icon stickers on sleeves as needed. So what what jumped
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: out at me when I read this is holy buckets.
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: We have been restricted from adding stickers. Now that was
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: informal play, so this is a side event, but like
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: we couldn't even do Here's I'm going ahead and making
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: my deck that I want to play against, and I
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: want to be able to use that in Alliance or
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: before we had the reprints. I want to take this
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: foreign language and I want to move it over into English.
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: And I asked to play with stickers. That wasn't a possibility.
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: Well now we're just using that in this format or sorry,
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: in this it's a technical wording on method because now
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: I have to I have to learn a new avenue terminology.
• 44:53
  Speaker 4: But I do think that I think this isn't a method,
• 44:56
  Speaker 4: this is just method.
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: Uh but yeah, No, I'm seeing stickers is what was
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: listed there. And I our arcanometer. That is so much fun.
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: Now I can go ahead and I'm going to draft
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: this and I'm gonna put my enhanced sticker and I'm
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: gonna get my hands.
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: Not only can you put it enhanced sticker, you can
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: put multiple stickers on it.
• 45:18
  Speaker 4: No, you can't stick per card until you get more
• 45:23
  Speaker 4: than thirty six enhancements.
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: I did say that earlier, and that is because I
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: was saying Marcus's post it says you could add as
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: you could.
• 45:30
  Speaker 3: It's not limited to one per card.
• 45:32
  Speaker 4: No, it's it's that is and this as they have
• 45:35
  Speaker 4: written it now. I don't know when his post was made,
• 45:39
  Speaker 4: so that could be the other thing.
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: So again this I'm not a big drafter, but this
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: kind of excites me to be able to try it
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: and then.
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: Hold on important. I think it's stickers on perfect fit sleeves.
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: Here's a fun fact. Perfect fit sleeves don't fit key
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: for IT cards.
• 46:01
  Speaker 4: Yes, they fit fine. Inner sleeves work fine. Inner sleeves
• 46:05
  Speaker 4: are slightly too large for for.
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: For having having moded out a deck to test for alliance.
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: You can still feel the sticker. So I'm very curious
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: to see how if you put the sticker over the inner.
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: So you put your card in here's your inner, then
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: you put the sticker on, and then you put it
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: into a sleeve. You can actually still feel that. So
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: there is a little discrupty. I don't think to care.
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: I don't think it's a big Yeah, I don't think
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: it's a big enough deal, But I do think that
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: you can tell and.
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: So pie I think.
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: I think you put the sticker on the card and
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: then put the perfect fit sleeve over the card.
• 46:50
  Speaker 3: That was my reading how it sounds not on the card.
• 46:53
  Speaker 3: You put it on the inside of the sleeve.
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: So it's yeah, what's what I had done previously? Card
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: went into the inner sleeve, sticker went on the outside
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: of the inner sleeve, inner sleeve went into the outer
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: and so you have it double sleeve, but the stickers
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: between sleeves one and two.
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: You guys remember when it was too much to have
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: special printings of cards. Yeah, I'm opening sticks on ship.
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: I'll take the You know what I am seeing here
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: is it's a side event. So if you're going to
• 47:23
  Speaker 2: want to do it key.
• 47:25
  Speaker 4: Forged cards outside of the place, key forge is not what.
• 47:30
  Speaker 1: I want to do. Burn it, take it.
• 47:34
  Speaker 4: I just want to.
• 47:36
  Speaker 3: That is not in the alternative, is not in the
• 47:39
  Speaker 3: tournament methods, So it was not a listed format.
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: I'm just gonna say this, Draz. If it was me
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: and I entered this draft, I would I think that
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: I would highly target any of my house enhanced cards,
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: like just whatever is going to provide the pips, because
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: I think that those have a huge, huge, huge benefit
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: in this format. From there you can pick, yeah, because
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: you can pick, and then from there I can go
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: ahead and pull my key cards. Interestingly enough, they did
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: put in for key sheets as another aspect to the force.
• 48:16
  Speaker 3: Did you see that?
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: So no more than one key chat card may be included,
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: because that is a strategy of I'm just going to
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: key cheat. Here's the three, but no more than one
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: key cheat card maybe included in a final draft deck.
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: Now you can hate no, no, you can hate drafts,
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: and I can pull them, but I'm going to choose
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: the best one, and sucker, you're not getting yours. So
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: although a player is free to draft as many as
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: they like, limit the others, which, which.
• 48:47
  Speaker 3: I don't know, is interesting. I guess maybe that came
• 48:48
  Speaker 3: up and play testing. I assume that, yeah, that was
• 48:52
  Speaker 3: just a couple of otk's happened. Yeah, yeah, well too
• 48:57
  Speaker 3: dominant maybe.
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: So okay, So my question still, how do I make
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: these draft packs?
• 49:03
  Speaker 3: Oh? No, well I don't. I don't.
• 49:06
  Speaker 4: I straight up actually don't want to know.
• 49:09
  Speaker 3: You don't want to know.
• 49:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah, like my curiosity is it is pretty done with this.
• 49:15
  Speaker 4: I'm I'm out. I'm ready for something else.
• 49:18
  Speaker 3: You want to talk about Adaptive.
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: I almost.
• 49:24
  Speaker 4: Play adaptive.
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: So the last the last little bit that I.
• 49:28
  Speaker 4: Think I would rather play Adaptive over cube or or draft.
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: I would prefer I want to try draft. And it
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: is the new toys.
• 49:36
  Speaker 4: I want to tell you the truth. I would play
• 49:38
  Speaker 4: neither and just go do something else.
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: Sure, but again, but you have the option. You can
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: play sealed like here's a pot of eight. Still, well no,
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: but you can play the sealed pod. You can go
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: ahead and play. This is a side tournament, side event,
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: and so it will excite people and if it draws
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: in potentially more people from other games, ah, that that
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: could be an asset for our community.
• 50:04
  Speaker 3: So just like interested alliance, I don't I don't think
• 50:10
  Speaker 3: there gave.
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: Me what's the word they love to use, crabs? Uh nope, nope,
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: that was her name was Shelley. It gave it, gave
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: me uh agency?
• 50:28
  Speaker 3: There it is.
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: That's the word I'm looking yeah. Agency, yeah yeah.
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: Agency is completely gone now with this, So.
• 50:36
  Speaker 4: The whole like it's why Menagerie and Unchained are not good,
• 50:44
  Speaker 4: although I guess they can be fun, but like the whole, like,
• 50:47
  Speaker 4: let's ignore deck construction rules that were put in for
• 50:50
  Speaker 4: some reason so he can just totally break stuff. And
• 50:53
  Speaker 4: I'm like, this is just another version of that.
• 50:58
  Speaker 3: I agree with.
• 50:59
  Speaker 4: That is just that's not what I am interested in
• 51:02
  Speaker 4: at all. When I play Keyford, I.
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: Think The best way to play Keyfard still is sealed,
• 51:06
  Speaker 1: there's no question about it. But if you're into this, hey,
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: it's gonna be.
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: Very seal draft. I know Sheep won't play with me,
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: and that's fine.
• 51:15
  Speaker 3: I'll play with you.
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: Lookie, and you're gonna draft sixty cards. So I will
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: say that you're gonna draft sixty cards, and from those
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: sixty you're making a thirty six card.
• 51:22
  Speaker 3: Deck and you might have some blank cards. Well, if
• 51:28
  Speaker 3: you're drapped, okay, I think, but at least we're forgetting sixty.
• 51:33
  Speaker 3: You should be able to get. You should be three
• 51:35
  Speaker 3: houses with Yeah. So yeah, I don't know. So so
• 51:43
  Speaker 3: it sounds like you walk You're like you're interested, You'll
• 51:46
  Speaker 3: you'll try this.
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: That this is something that I will try again. I
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: like some of the fan formats that people have all
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: run out. I'm final, try blank card. You cannot play
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: this card. You may discard it, though, yeah, which.
• 52:00
  Speaker 4: Is which is fun. If you have so many enhancements,
• 52:03
  Speaker 4: you'd actually have to put one there because it's a unplayable.
• 52:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: I can't even put an enhancement on it to make
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: it do a thing. That's now it's garbage.
• 52:15
  Speaker 4: It's you drafted bad. Here's a penalty.
• 52:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, don't don't put yourself in that situation.
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: So it will be interesting. Are they read so My
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: question that I had is are they reusing like we
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: have plenty of people. Okay, Pete's piles here, Here you go, Pete,
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: this was the deck that really was played at sealed
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: and that was it, and we will go ahead and
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: move the deck over. Are you taking those sets of
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: twelve and we're modifying them?
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: So that's well, you're only getting thirty card packs.
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: I know. This is where my question is, like, and
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: it was your question earlier, Wookie, what makes up the deck?
• 52:50
  Speaker 3: I don't know what makes up the pod or it.
• 52:52
  Speaker 4: Does not actually so like matter you pick. So the
• 52:57
  Speaker 4: way it works from the way I'm reading it is
• 53:00
  Speaker 4: you pick your four houses from the set that is
• 53:03
  Speaker 4: being played, and then they basically count up. How so
• 53:07
  Speaker 4: if if we all picked the same four houses, it's
• 53:10
  Speaker 4: going to be sure, yeah right, it's just going to
• 53:13
  Speaker 4: be you know, like that house four times over and
• 53:18
  Speaker 4: then but these these aren't. It's not like you're bringing
• 53:21
  Speaker 4: decks like this is. Somebody has a yeah, somebody has
• 53:27
  Speaker 4: a draft set to play out.
• 53:29
  Speaker 2: Well, you know, and I don't know. Maybe maybe it
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: would behoove them to I don't know, probably not, never mind,
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: I don't know what's in the draft?
• 53:38
  Speaker 3: Well, I think where you're going? Are you going, wikie
• 53:41
  Speaker 3: that they're trying to see if this is a product
• 53:43
  Speaker 3: they can sell that they would create.
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: If you're going to do it, Yes, you could create
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: draft packs, no sheep, Well now look.
• 53:52
  Speaker 4: At look at okay the shared thing from Marcus. He
• 53:56
  Speaker 4: has gone through forty six hundred cards to make it
• 54:00
  Speaker 4: playable for thirty four players by picking any houses they want. So, yes,
• 54:04
  Speaker 4: this is something. This is like you have to build
• 54:06
  Speaker 4: a cube to do this.
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, let's just say I want to do it at
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: my local. This I just you know again, is this
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: is this a product they're trying to maybe pimp?
• 54:24
  Speaker 3: Like oh you know like this.
• 54:26
  Speaker 4: Before looks like it's Marcus's child project. Yeah, well, and
• 54:33
  Speaker 4: he's got enough influence to give it a try. What's
• 54:35
  Speaker 4: good for him, as he should work, as he should
• 54:38
  Speaker 4: have influence. This was interesting, Marcus, you should make more
• 54:42
  Speaker 4: boobs than Keyfords.
• 54:43
  Speaker 3: What the hell did yeah?
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: Memomboso? Okay he he but to.
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: Draft, there's so many better ways to use your influence.
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: Well, but what was well, you made a Liance, so
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: can you really talk on that?
• 54:57
  Speaker 4: I mean, I I it is.
• 55:04
  Speaker 3: There you go.
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: That's what I wanted to just pete go with it.
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: It was Wookie's fault that Alliance is here top to.
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: So my question is, like the others all seem to
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: be items or formats or methods. These all came from
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: a b RS for the most part of where we're
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: presently seeing them played regularly. Others like Ubliet were created
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: from a ROAR and have been around for a bit.
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: But everything else is something that has shown up pretty
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: consistently in a br Then draft like correct and then
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: draft was like, oh okay, here we go.
• 55:44
  Speaker 3: So that's what I mean. I will, yeah, I will
• 55:48
  Speaker 3: try this probably potentially, although hopefully I'm you know, top eight,
• 55:53
  Speaker 3: so I won't have the opportunity on Sunday, but AnyWho,
• 55:56
  Speaker 3: I would try it. I am not like, this is
• 56:00
  Speaker 3: a form of constructed so I'm not like, uh, I'm
• 56:06
  Speaker 3: not thinking that I'm going to be in love with
• 56:08
  Speaker 3: This necessarily feels less blasphemous than Alliance, but still.
• 56:20
  Speaker 4: Keep up twelve of a house together. Yeah, this is
• 56:25
  Speaker 4: this is classic, Like, yeah, all right, it's blasphemy.
• 56:29
  Speaker 3: I agree it is.
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: Oh is this is this the toe in the water
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: for them to see if they can make a constructed format.
• 56:36
  Speaker 3: Well, they already did a constructed formats called a note one.
• 56:39
  Speaker 3: That's a little bit a little bit more, a little
• 56:42
  Speaker 3: bit more, uh, agency.
• 56:45
  Speaker 4: A little bit more deep stepping around me.
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, until he's got nothing to do. Then he'll then
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: he'll be back in the pool. Well maybe he'll just
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: he'll stick a toe too much.
• 56:57
  Speaker 4: Spoons in this water for me, I'm out.
• 57:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you gotta say say nine hail architects after you
• 57:05
  Speaker 3: play this format in order to be your students to
• 57:09
  Speaker 3: be cleansed.
• 57:10
  Speaker 4: House packs are fifteen cards. Wow, that's up in definitions.
• 57:17
  Speaker 3: Yes, Oh is it okay?
• 57:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 57:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, because I just I don't again, I don't
• 57:26
  Speaker 2: know how do you?
• 57:27
  Speaker 3: How does it go? I am very curious about it.
• 57:30
  Speaker 4: House pack is curated fifteen card pack cards from a
• 57:33
  Speaker 4: single keyfoards house from a single keyboard set. So you
• 57:36
  Speaker 4: just whatever fifteen cards you want to put in there.
• 57:39
  Speaker 4: It's your you're bringing the whole Well, at least in
• 57:44
  Speaker 4: this I guess there could be a format.
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: This is not how I want my draft to go.
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: I just I want my draft to be buy it,
• 57:53
  Speaker 2: sit down, play it, We draft, and then we play. Well,
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: somebody's bringing like you don't mess like, well there is
• 58:01
  Speaker 2: there is?
• 58:02
  Speaker 4: Uh wasn't one of the draft format's house.
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: Or under underpack underpack draft that says players bring or
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: are provided for house packs. So I think for the Vault,
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: you're gonna see that they're providing.
• 58:16
  Speaker 2: You're going to they're provided. But I would like I
• 58:19
  Speaker 2: would like to my friend, I would like to go
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: to my friendly local game star and be like one
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: draft pack.
• 58:25
  Speaker 3: Please.
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: No, I don't want to.
• 58:28
  Speaker 4: I would like to never ever ever do that ever.
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: And can you see, Wookie, if we bring that no, no,
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: but if we but listen to this, If we bring
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: that idea up and all of a sudden GG produces it,
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: now the stores have to look at another item and
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: they're going to order it randomly, just like Menagerie, and
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: you're gonna be stuck with it, like if your group
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: doesn't play, you're thinking it's another sass. And so that
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: that's a that I'm very worried about and is not
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: do a good job.
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: Because GG does not do a good job of communication
• 59:03
  Speaker 2: any of this.
• 59:04
  Speaker 4: I remember when Alliance was the thing, people were saying, well,
• 59:07
  Speaker 4: is there's going to be Alliance only packs where it's
• 59:09
  Speaker 4: just a single house. Yeah, in a thing for Alliance only,
• 59:14
  Speaker 4: and yeah, obviously I have poo poo that idea.
• 59:16
  Speaker 3: Of too well.
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: I mean, you know, eight player vault tours. I'm sure
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: didn't help that, cause I'm sure if.
• 59:22
  Speaker 4: You in in theory like four collector sets makes a
• 59:31
  Speaker 4: hell of everything you need to make a killer draft
• 59:34
  Speaker 4: pack set up for a set, yes, because then you
• 59:38
  Speaker 4: have four of every card and you can build whatever
• 59:41
  Speaker 4: degenerously you want.
• 59:43
  Speaker 3: Five.
• 59:44
  Speaker 4: But there isn't even requirements of those kind of rules.
• 59:46
  Speaker 4: You don't even have to like there's there are no
• 59:48
  Speaker 4: rules for draft backs. It could just be fifteen copies
• 59:50
  Speaker 4: of the same rare what's my draft? I brought fifteen
• 59:54
  Speaker 4: copies of routine jobs in this draft pack.
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: Let's go, boy, you're talking routine jobs. Routine job was
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: actually we had that this week. I was routine job show.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: How is routine job showing up boys for Darconi mess?
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 4: It's period of time.
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm gonna do because that it was
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: too much.
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna bring fifteen copies of curse relic.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: Talk talk talk can go ahead and talk and go
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: ahead and have here is our five or six, but
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: Darconi measures we're gonna max out three.
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 3: Done? Wow?
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: Is there is there any like beyond Kyle's why Why
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 2: isn't one of the things just like you open a
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 2: deck and you just picked one house from it and
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 2: pass to the left.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 3: You know, honestly, that's like what I anticipated.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 4: And then you get the house on sax one and
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 4: then you get the trash house and you shuffle and
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 4: you play.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 3: I mean maybe you do actually.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 4: Just as bad as everything else, because it's like you
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 4: get in theory the best house, and then you kind
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 4: of have a decision on your second house where you're like, oh,
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 4: my first house didn't have C, so I'll take the
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 4: pod with C if there is one. Yeah, there's a
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 4: little bit of decision making, But I don't actually think
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 4: that would be any better than if you're taking If.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: You're taking a pod, it's two restrictive versus three cards.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: You know, one card, I think it's going to really
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: slow up, but three you're really grabbing the three best cards.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 4: So well, I mean, there are combos.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: There are combos, but it there's there's a couple different
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: lines that you can take with it, which is why
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: I'm curious to see how it plays out. But you can, guys,
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: you can go ahead and get your own special mats
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: for it, and if we have more than thirty two people,
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: you can get prizes.
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 4: Because my brain can't not think about this garbage yep. Right,
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 4: So say, say you play this and you're the only
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 4: player who picks untamed or something. Right, So there's only
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 4: fifteen non tamed cards in this thing, So in theory,
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 4: you're gonna pick them all, except somewhere along the line,
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 4: somebody is gonna be like, oh there is Yeah, Yeah,
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 4: they're just gonna and they just hate draft a single
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 4: card because that's all it takes. Right, You're like, oh,
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 4: there's the Nature's Call. I'll take the Nature's Call and
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 4: the two good cards I need for.
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 2: My house and the punk.
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 4: And then like, because you picked the house that not
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 4: a lot of other people picked you, I mean one
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 4: of two things happen. You either get all the cards
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 4: from that house right most likely because nobody's gonna touch
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 4: them because nobody else picked the house, or like you're
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 4: only gonna get you know, or like the best card
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 4: is gonna get jinked from you. Maybe if there's actually
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 4: a strong card, like I see that being a thing
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 4: that happens more.
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 3: In the world of.
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 4: You know what you put in, Like if I brought
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 4: my house pods and I know what I'm putting in,
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 4: So when the draft's happening, I know sixty of the
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 4: cards that are gonna be in this mess, right right.
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: I think this setup is more interesting when the packs
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 1: are provided by the Vault Tour or the organize.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 4: I don't know that's true, because then it becomes way
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 4: more like, Oh, I grabbed this card and it happens
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 4: to be that the rare that cobbos with it is
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 4: in here.
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: Yay, uh yes, But you also have Okay, here's the
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: four best houses in this set, so that's what we're
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: all playing for. Oh, someone else went.
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 4: A billion cards of that, all those houses, so you're.
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 3: Is it?
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 4: I don't, yeah, because every everybody who picks that house
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 4: fifteen cards of that house going to the draft. So
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 4: if we put those same four houses, it's just gonna
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 4: there's only gonna be four different houses, and the.
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: Whole picture that nightmare right there. If if all thirty
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: two of us choose to go ahead and play PV
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: and we're playing Logos, Diss and Shadows. Sure, like for
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: an organizer to come in and have thirty two packs
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: for each of the houses.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's unreasonable to ask for in my opinion, but
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 4: that's what I but yeah, they just cap it at
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 4: eight players or something.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 3: That's what most Marcus, it'll actually actually we'll bring it, yeah, or.
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 4: The other way it's gonna go is like through some
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 4: random distribution of like you get to pick your first
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 4: two houses and then your other two houses are just random,
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 4: because that's just how we have to do it with
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 4: the cards are available. There are things that you do
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 4: that they aren't even in these rules, that you could
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 4: enforce to make the event.
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: Play panics over here just trolling us, all saying my
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: draft pack will be fifteen more wolves. All I'm gonna
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 1: I'm gonnaters. I'm just gonna go and top it with
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: fifteen hass Raptors.
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 3: So you're fine, Oh all right, Kometers, every card is
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 3: logos and every time your opponent plays anything.
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: And I'm also gonna then draft my house in handed
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: because the.
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 3: Time and it's zero Ember, zero Ember.
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 4: It's like one one of your pods is fifteen vested
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 4: heralds and the other is fifteen like time travelers. Yeah,
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 4: now housed enhanced. And then so you're just like investor archive.
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: Of Yeah, and you guys are horrible people, all right,
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: So we have our yep, and this is what what
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: gamers will do. So there's no question about.
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 4: Nobody else picked equad On because it's stinks. So you're
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 4: gonna get all the vested heralds.
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 2: Yes, I love as the herald it's there, you go.
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: Drafs will get it as well. Shall we talk about
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 1: the other methods that are there?
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 4: But I guess there is a truth. Just because you
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 4: picked the house doesn't mean you couldn't just draft somebody
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 4: else's house out from under them.
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, to think about it, if and then just draft
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 3: all the Equodon. Am I not allowed to play?
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 4: No, you're definitely allowed to play Aquedon, Okay, certainly.
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 3: Okay, okay, So that's an interesting one. You just say,
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 3: crap houses.
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 4: And then also you could also be really bad at
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 4: drafting and take like six of the Equedon cars, going
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 4: like I'm gonna play Equedon, and then the person sitting
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 4: in with eight players is sitting across from you, and
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 4: they picked all the equoedon from the other half, and
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 4: then you're both sitting with half an equaedon house that
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 4: neither of you can play. Yeah, not reacting that there
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 4: was only fifteen.
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so like what happened? How does this work if
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 3: you if you purposely say houses, you aren't going to draft,
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 3: and then you try to draft the other houses Like.
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 4: That's a that's definitely a strategy. There's something to think
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 4: about that.
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: I'm just gonna say houses, I'm just sorry for them
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: because well, I mean what, we don't try to abuse
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: the rules.
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 3: This is I'm not going to do it. He walk.
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 3: I'm I will if I'm enjoying this, I will do
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 3: it the right way.
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 2: But but she will, Yeah, by trolling everybody. Let's people,
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 2: I'm also in the camp. I will be trolling everyone.
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 2: Know that I will be choosing the three worst houses
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 2: to make you look at those cards and have to
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 2: take crap houses.
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 3: You'll call skyborne.
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 4: But you are drafting sixty cards and you're only using
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 4: thirty six. So even if you get stuck with fifteen
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 4: of a bad house, it doesn't mean you have to
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 4: play it.
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 3: Mm hmm, yep. I'm taking all the red lines, right, Well,
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 3: you tell everyone, because you don't get to just choose
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 3: all the cards.
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: We draft them going around, so you're not going to
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: be able to get all the good cards.
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Just imagine how crazy the cards would be in
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 4: like where people provided it. You'd be like looking at
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 4: nothing but red lines and piles of nature.
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 3: We'll see.
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 2: The next question is is like the's got to be
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 2: some some dog some booty cards, right because like why well,
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 2: otherwise they either got to be all booty or all bangers.
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 4: No, it's just the bangers get take him first and
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 4: then back around later you take the booty. It's just
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 4: like regular drafts.
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 3: So I'm going to get six good cards, of the
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 3: rest are all going to suck ass.
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: Uh, Pete, I just want you to put down booty
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: and bankers. That that is exactly the quote that we
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: need to roll with fore top.
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 3: To top ten tracks.
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 4: He's in the Bangers.
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 2: You won't you won't believe what she picked number one.
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 4: Okay, So we've fucking choosed and shown that we know
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 4: absolutely nothing about drafting.
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: For general, and yet we're still in a podcast that's
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: gone on for people listening to it. Yeah, I agree on.
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 4: What else do you have to talk about here? It
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 4: says adaptive. The only interesting there is the twenty four
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 4: chain bid max so e Walk's theory of bringing a
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 4: true awful like the worst reversal deck in the world.
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 4: Then you know, you get to you bid zero and
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 4: then well, you don't know, you pick their dock. They
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 4: picked their deck. They have to bid zero zero, correct
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 4: and you get it every time. Now your reversal dock
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 4: has to be twenty four chains worse than the sixty
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 4: five garbage people like to bring to Adaptive.
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 1: So that's where that's where, Yeah, that's where you have
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: to be able to events your band, is it?
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 4: Yes, But if they bring like a ninety five because
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 4: they're just like, hey, I you know, just want to
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 4: play with my good deck and adaptive and then you go, okay,
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 4: I'll take.
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 1: It for twenty four, then the twenty four is a
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 1: simple bid.
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 4: Yep, So that that is a viable, maybe awful thing
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 4: to do.
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 3: Bible strategy, Okay, all right, so yep.
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 4: That's okay. And then what there was ubli at, which yeah,
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 4: that's did you guys mentioned that was a roarers format.
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 1: So if you're not familiar ubliet allows a player to
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 1: ban a house, ensuring that they'll never have to play
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 1: against that deck. So basically, you bring two decks, you
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 1: ban a house.
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 4: When you bring your two decks, you well, you can
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 4: actually have crossover, but then there's a chance that both
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 4: decks are banned and you lose.
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: You just straight up.
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 2: I'll say, I feel like this is one that's better
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 2: done online than anything else.
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 3: But yeah, why is that?
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 4: I feel like ubi AT Sealed is risky? Like, okay,
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 4: so we're gonna sit down and play ub AT Sealed, right,
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 4: and we're playing EV and I'm like, well, I'm just
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 4: gonna ban shadows, right, and then you opened it two
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 4: shadows decks and you just sit down to me and
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 4: you're just like, huh, that was dumb.
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: Well, I don't think, I mean technically under suggested formats,
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: it says sealed ARCon Alliance, So yes, you are correct
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 1: that it could show up.
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 4: It sounds right there. If the tournament is sealed, players
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 4: continue to use the registered decks for the entire tournament,
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 4: even if they opened more than two decks. Yeah, register
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 4: with exactly two decks at the beginning tournament?
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 3: How would sell it?
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 4: Yes, that that would be a form of it, or
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 4: it could be just open too and roll and like
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 4: I said, get.
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 2: And hope and hope you didn't. Yeah, because like okay,
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 2: so now so everybody opens two decks. I got two
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 2: brob and are you got two shadows? I'm betting problem.
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 2: I'm batting shadows. Nobody wins.
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, oh yeah, We're both lost all of our necks.
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 3: It's a time double loss.
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 4: If both players cannot select a dec because both of
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 4: their decks contained a band house. Both players receive a loss.
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 3: Oh this is the best.
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 4: Loss. They a plus one for gg on that it's
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 4: like going to time. Both players get a loss.
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think. I think UBLI it is fine for
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 1: Arc Hunter Alliance because you have control over hurting yourself
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 1: if you choose to basically bring decks that are doubled up.
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 1: But that's not typically what you see for UBI A.
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 3: I still yeah.
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 4: And then quick Forge, which is the not the not
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 4: the dev dev quick Forge.
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 1: This is the it's it's the one key.
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 4: And then you played best of five and here they
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 4: they what we did in a b R, which is
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 4: if you play a key sheet, you just ignore the
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 4: forge key.
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 3: Rule, right, because they didn't want to have a format
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 3: where decks were illegal.
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 4: So you still spend the amber because you do as
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 4: much as you can, so you could still.
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 1: But there are number there are key sheets that will
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 1: provide Yeah, there are key sheets that provide an amber,
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 1: so you can still gain it on that.
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 4: Like a like spooch key let's shuffle, So you know
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 4: you can still do the shuffle, you just don't get
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 4: the key. Yeah, sure, Like if you have enough amber
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 4: to forge the key, do you spend the amber and
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 4: then fail to forge the key? Like if you were
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 4: to wild wormhole into a key sheet.
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 1: I would assume that you would. Yes, you'd spend it.
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 3: Well, I actually spend the amber. But if if it's
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 3: like chota, right, you'd lose one.
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 1: That's where the ambers lost.
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 4: Key forge.
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 2: Don't all key sheets, say, man, aren't all key sheets?
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 2: My abilities? No, which ones aren't? That's all You may
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 2: forge a key at blah blah blah.
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah that's a key cheat.
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 1: I think that actually.
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 4: Oh oh so turnkey on forge is a key but
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 4: doesn't forge a key turnkey best card.
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 3: But you've already lost of it.
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so you've already lost turnkey. Okay, yes, thank you
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 4: thank you for it.
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 3: But totally like, uh would you?
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 1: So?
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 4: In in.
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 3: D Okay it lists now we shouldn't have as a
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 3: key sheet, but it says cards.
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 4: This specifically says cards that would forge a key, not
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 4: cards that so like tacking on faulse into a guaranteed key,
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 4: it's mine.
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 1: So I will say, having played the ABR version of
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 1: Quick Forage, I do think that PV with its prophecies,
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 1: have a huge impact to be able to forge that
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 1: key by either providing amber that you cannot respond to
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 1: or going ahead moving because it's outside of the normal
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 1: response stage that I had issues with. As you're playing
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 1: one key, typically there's a build up to that first key,
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 1: and I wish that I would say that quick Forge was, hey,
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 1: you play a very quick round. And what I found
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 1: is that it was actually quite extensive because there's delay delay, delay,
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 1: delay delay, and then all of a sudden, here's that breakthrough.
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 1: So while it is a five round, I'm a bit
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 1: concern for this method. I think it's fun and I
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 1: think we'll have a blast, but I think that PV
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 1: again is ruining things.
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah that's enough, PVLB band, don't worry about it. Well,
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 3: I don't know. I was arguing with Mammon, uh because
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 3: you know he's uh, he's probably played tester, so you
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 3: can suggest things more easily than I can. And so
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 3: you know, we were just sort of chatting about various
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 3: ways that King Ling was there too, but but man
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 3: started the conversation, King playing Mammon and I. We were
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 3: all chatting, and so I was like, well, what could
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 3: you Is there cards that you could come up with
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 3: that would affect PV without like prophecies, without explicitly naming prophecies,
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 3: and that's like a little bit of a tricky thing
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 3: to do. So we were just brainstorming.
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 4: But it's those effects that basically say, you cannot be
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 4: forced to discard cards outside of out of sight of
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 4: the main phase, right, so all less of happening your
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 4: main phase or your opponent's main phase, you can't discard
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 4: cards like stuff like that. There are some you can't
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 4: lose amber outside of phases that would.
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 3: And so then some well I'm gonna make I'm gonna
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 3: make the argument.
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna make the argument in this you can go
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 1: close your ears if you don't want any spoilers. But
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 1: for the preview lists of cards that are coming out
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 1: from shad Realities all on the knull five Power Dragon.
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 1: If you are overwhelmed, each time a card would leave
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 1: your opponent's hand, purge it instead. That means if you're overwhelmed,
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 1: you simply cannot play cards, you cannot discard cards. You
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 1: can put cards under prophecies. That is a huge impact
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 1: for PB.
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 4: The wording on that card printed as as it currently sits.
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it is is it? It is at a rare
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 1: but again, uh, if you are overwhelmed, so that that's
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 1: the that's the status. Which okay, so they have to
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 1: have more creatures than you. Uh, each time a card
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 1: would leave your opponent's hand, purge it instead. Anytime that
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 1: they're playing a card, they're going ahead and discarding a card,
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 1: they're putting it under a prophecy. It's it's just straight purged.
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 1: Now that can make that deck very very.
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 4: Leave isn't a traditional KeyForge term. It is playing different
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 4: than leaving. I don't know if you accidentally drop your
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 4: your cards.
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, like because.
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 1: And that that's why the templating has always been a problem.
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 1: When we change up that templating. But when I see
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 1: the world, they're gonna worry about it. But what I
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 1: think that they will do is they will simply say
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 1: leave means using it any of these phases. I think
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 1: this car changed to I.
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 3: Think have to be Yeah, I don't don't.
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 4: I saw that, and that is just the wording is
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 4: too weird for me to take it serious.
• 1:19:03
  Speaker 1: I think that that card is extremely powerful, but I
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 1: think it is targeted. And we see this sets right
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 1: after a very powerful set don't respond to it. But
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 1: GG has a tendency to two sets down the road.
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 1: That's their response, and this is shattered realities. This is
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 1: the response. In my opinion, is that hey, PV is
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 1: having an issue. It's playing out of its normal phase.
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 1: Forgive no one.
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 4: Really no one for outboarding. So I don't see it
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 4: being that strong against PV, don't. I don't see this
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 4: as being a PV thing.
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 1: I think that if I can, if I can go
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 1: ahead and have this, and this set is strong enough
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 1: to be overwhelmed by one creature or the discrepancy when
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 1: it's at a small amount of creatures of here's two
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 1: to one or three to one. If you can't fight it,
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 1: or you have here's three small creatures to this one
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 1: to five, good luck, you just spought in. You have
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 1: three ones or here's a two two.
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 4: I don't sure.
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 1: There's nothing.
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 4: There's nothing to see that being targeted to TV. That
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 4: screws every other set.
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 3: That's not all that's that's that just that's a that's
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 3: a hard screw of everyone.
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 1: But it is PV in that.
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 3: You how a house house are we?
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 4: I don't see why it's targeted to TV more than
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 4: any other set.
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 3: It was your opponents. There was a connection I was
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 3: going to make and then we got sidetracked. I forgot
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 3: none of those is what I was actually trying to
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 3: bring up, Like, I don't know, Uh, I think it
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 3: was what was it? I don't know, Guys, I forget
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 3: there was a question where it made sense. But then, yeah,
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 3: is there anything else in four.
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 4: Structures? What is this stuff? Types and mets?
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, methods?
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 4: I like the crystal blue?
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 2: The what the crystal blu? The only type of meth
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 2: he knows about?
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 3: Matter?
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 1: This is why straight laced who doesn't have any idea
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 1: got it?
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 3: Believe I just watch TV. I don't watch TV, so
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 3: you know.
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 1: It's not about TV. Have you have you done drugs?
• 1:21:22
  Speaker 3: Do you know?
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 1: Okay, then you're fine, you also are.
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 3: Speaking of he's about to go sniffs and office strippers, butthole,
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 3: well that.
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 1: Just turned really really fast. Sorry, dras Drazz, I do
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 1: hear that you have w and that you're gonna be
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 1: that on air for us right now?
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 3: This is true? This is true. So so I.
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 2: I got a new flavor. So I got the cherry
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 2: lime something cherry lime.
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 1: Oh that wasn't strippers as okay, Okay, now.
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 3: I don't worry. We gotta I'm paying that donation. I
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 3: got you, That's what she said. So the uh so, yeah,
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 3: so I got I got this cherry lime I got. Well,
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 3: they're right here. It's probably way too late to be
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 3: drinking this is, but yeah, yeah, let's let's give it
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 3: a go four in the morning.
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 2: Just like what did I do?
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 3: Yep? Yeah, I didn't want to sleep on Thursday night anyway.
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 1: But you still have plenty of drazzcorean measures to be
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 1: able to dig through and play. So you're fine.
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 2: If you take dragons, yeah, just bounce sleep dragons, you'll
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 2: be fine. Actually, I have even more because I well,
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 2: because I always off locally.
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, because I always I pre order always for every set,
• 1:22:50
  Speaker 3: so that the guy knows that, like we want them
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 3: and all this, right, so so I always pre order
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 3: one display. Now part of me was like, I tell
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 3: him I just don't want a pre order to play time,
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 3: but I didn't do it. I didn't say that, but
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 3: I did. He just handed me display with the foil cards.
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 3: So yeah, so it's like guaranteed foil display. So like okay,
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 3: yeahs now, it's not the full foil it's not the
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 3: fifty dollars situation, but it is rare again, I think,
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 3: well not just rares, so just rares this time, any
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 3: card could be so.
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 4: Totally not going to try to collect this mess, so
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 4: you need to sheep yeah, yeah, yeah, totally donations right,
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 4: I get.
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 1: Are you drinking this w yet? I'm trying to watch.
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 1: Let me sit here, so turn it on. This is great.
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 3: I'm smelling. I'm smelling smells. I get more more cherry
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 3: than lime on the notes.
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 1: Is this like beer tasting class he's now doing with
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 1: I'm swirling.
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 3: I'm swirling.
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 1: All right, Well you're going ahead, shout out to who
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 1: just joined in. Nice card. I will say, it is
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 1: nice to see your card, sir, So job there, great card.
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 3: So yeah, well I see some more particulate on the
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 3: bottom because I didn't stir well enough, apparently, and then yeah,
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 3: I should have shook. I stirred. No, no, I just
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 3: I just stirred it. So all right, so there's cherry
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 3: on the nose. Cherry.
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 1: Uh, let's talking.
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 3: Here we go, let's try it.
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 1: Here we go.
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 3: Okay, okay, I didn't.
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 1: See your response on video. This is I'm really all right.
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 4: Let's just get to the thing. Is it vodka or rom.
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 1: What are you? What are you mixing with this vodka?
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 4: No?
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 3: This, this is just that I didn't actually.
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 4: Will we be mixing?
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 3: Oh?
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 1: What will we so for this?
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 3: This is actually I'm getting more cheery in the line.
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 3: But it's not it's actually not bad.
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 1: It's like really shocked with with this.
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 3: I think I would put this in alort. You know this,
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 3: mart w let's go.
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 4: We know what we are serving this year?
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 3: What you know that I will?
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 1: I will say our daughters Dubbi and Millart are both
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 1: on the jersey for.
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 3: This year, our sponsors. So get clever.
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 4: Think of what the w Millart is going to be called?
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 3: You what we already go into my head? I already
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 3: feel more awake, dummy, malort w Millart. Yeah, dummy, you're
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 3: just a dummy for drinking this, that's right. What do
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 3: they call it?
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 3: The awful ben Rylo.
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 4: What's the red bull and.
• 1:26:06
  Speaker 3: Gager shot called red Bull? Okay, Jaeger bomb, the W bomb,
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 3: the M bomb.
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 4: Now it's it's gonna be h something with kniffle anything
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 4: with its niffled.
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 3: Be awake forever.
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 2: It would be a niffle bomb. No, okay, well it
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 2: could be. It could be let us know what we
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 2: should name it down down below or on any of
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 2: the socials. I'm sure Pete will pluck that one.
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 3: You're gonna die tonight.
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 4: Do we buy the green We got to buy the
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 4: green w then for making this?
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 3: I think the green w the green apple?
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 4: Oh god, yes, green apple?
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 3: And lord, oh sick.
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 1: You guys are horrible. We're doing people.
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 3: I didn't say do it. I just I.
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 2: I give bad ideas and I'm not I'm not a
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 2: good person.
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 4: I helped make them a reality.
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm I'm sorry to everyone.
• 1:27:16
  Speaker 1: Oh things to look forward to?
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 3: Yeh.
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 4: W bombs boys, W bombs.
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think there's a green apple in here somewhere.
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 2: I'm almost positive there is. Or you can go with
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 2: the chef's choice. Oh that's just a we surprise you
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 2: never mind.
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 3: Oh, hold on, there's one called dub Sledge that definitely
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 3: gets more. There we go definitely gets more. M m
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 3: m hmm.
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 2: Then it's just it's just a sledge bomb or something
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 2: like that. I don't know, but let us know. This
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 2: has been our ted talk of create creative disasters. We
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 2: don't know what's going on in key Forge, and after
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 2: listening to this, neither do you.
• 1:27:58
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• 1:28:04
  Speaker 1: draft score for all those sleepy dragons.
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, come in, come and score your cards. So I
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 3: put scores out for all the cards. You can go
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 3: and update those scores yourself because I probably did a
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 3: bad job.
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 1: You can, and we will be arguing about some of
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 1: these scores in upcoming weeks. This just got sidragged and.
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 3: Uh we will u yeah, and then we'll get the
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 3: scores to good spot. Right now, the top scored, uh
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 3: Draconia measures deck is still a deck called Samurai, although
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 3: it is tied with another deck Duong met boy. It's
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 3: a deck, but we'll so Samurai, but it says yep
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 3: is the is the top deck still. So if you
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 3: think you've got a better one, come out here, score
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 3: score your decks, Come a Patreon, you can score a
• 1:29:02
  Speaker 3: lot board decks and uh see see where see where
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 3: yours are at? So would orange cream with alert? I
• 1:29:13
  Speaker 3: mean everything works poorly with more art? So yeah, something.
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 3: Should we just get the small one and dump it in?
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 4: God ripest green Apple with their secrets heat sauce that
• 1:29:24
  Speaker 4: is sludge? Yeah, okay, who's ordering?
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 1: All right?
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 3: Well that's gonna be it us. Uh, you know how
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 3: I love how.
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 2: Josh like missed the whole conversation and maybe could have
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 2: helped us like in the middle there.
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 1: But hey, he is off hours. Man, this is just
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 1: our key. You do not harass be.
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 2: Talking stripper strippers assholes, But he misses the actual all
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 2: good stuff.
• 1:29:59
  Speaker 1: How do we get to the starfish man?
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 2: Well, you know that's where dass court takes his w.
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 3: Mm the start.
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 1: This is why I can't hang out with you guys,
• 1:30:13
  Speaker 1: just straight up right there. This is the reason I
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 1: can't hang out with you. This. I know you.
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 4: You say than any of this? Quit having this online
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 4: prissy persona.
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 1: It's a lie, oh online prissy persona, A.
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 3: Lie I can mildly confirm and deny.
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 1: I'm just sorry, Josh Corner, the group that has a cast.
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 1: That's I'm just gonna leave it there. I'm sorry we
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 1: have a cast. I do like hanging out with them
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 1: small amounts, mostly because they're my locals and I don't.
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 3: Have small amounts.
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 2: He's the first one taking the dumb sledge. No, but again,
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 2: that's gonna do it for us this week. We will
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 2: see you.
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 1: Next week playing some sleepy dragons.
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Happy forging everyone.
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 1: May the Forge be with you.