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The Late Debate | 23 June · The Late Debate

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  Speaker 1: Welcome Late to Bait.
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  Speaker 2: It's great to have your company on the Late Debate.
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  Speaker 2: James Macpherson with Caleb Bond and Denika did Giorgio.
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  Speaker 3: Good evening to you both.
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  Speaker 1: Hello, good evening to you.
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  Speaker 3: James. How are you? Caleb? What was your day like today?
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  Speaker 4: Not a great deal was achieved atard from work, But
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  Speaker 4: you know there are some days like that.
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  Speaker 1: Do you ever have days where you just.
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  Speaker 4: You're like, oh, maybe I could have been more productive
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  Speaker 4: and you just feel like you've fritted some time away
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  Speaker 4: that you didn't need to.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, sometimes you just waste the day. I'm pretty productive. Actually,
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  Speaker 5: I get up and I'm like, bang, let's do it.
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  Speaker 5: Let's just go straight into it. I don't waste day.
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  Speaker 1: What did you do?
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  Speaker 5: I went to the gym, I went for a walk,
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  Speaker 5: I did my shopping, I did all my cooking. I
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  Speaker 5: went to the city for an appointment. And then I thought, actually,
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  Speaker 5: we've got a show coming up, so I'm going to
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  Speaker 5: start doing.
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  Speaker 2: Some Well when you say you did all your cooking, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: like do you cook days?
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  Speaker 3: And I do, yeah, a meal prep how many days
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  Speaker 3: in events? And then you freeze it all.
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  Speaker 6: Some stuff can stay in the fridge.
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  Speaker 1: Other stuff.
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  Speaker 6: I do like, I do, portion some stuff.
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  Speaker 5: And put in the freezer, but four days h you
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  Speaker 5: never bring any of it into the studio.
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  Speaker 6: No I don't, Sorry, no I don't. Is that a
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  Speaker 6: hint something.
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  Speaker 4: James wants a Danika's catering service?
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  Speaker 6: I would to rely on me for that?
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  Speaker 2: Sounds pretty good. Actually, let's get into the show. Here's
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  Speaker 2: what's coming up tonight. A newly elected Scottish MP crosses
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  Speaker 2: her fingers while giving the oath of allegiance. Lydia thought
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  Speaker 2: did something similar here? So how valuable is the parliamentary
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  Speaker 2: oath if politicians signaled to all and sundry that they
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  Speaker 2: don't really mean it. Taking young children on a plane
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  Speaker 2: is every parent's nightmare. So should other passengers be more
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  Speaker 2: forgiving when kids play up? Or is it okay to
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  Speaker 2: be rate other people's children, especially if they're kicking your seat?
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  Speaker 2: And A South Australian council, having consistently raised rates above inflation,
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  Speaker 2: now wants to spend rate payer money trialing pop.
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  Speaker 3: Up bike lanes.
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  Speaker 2: It's the latest example of local government waste. Will get
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  Speaker 2: into all of that and more shortly, but first, secure stuff. Well,
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  Speaker 2: he was still wiping away the tears after his resignation
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  Speaker 2: when his likely replacement, Andy Burnham, was receiving a rock
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  Speaker 2: star welcome in the House of Commons the former Manchester mayor.
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  Speaker 2: It was one of three new MP's to be sworn
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  Speaker 2: in after winning by elections. But Burnham swearing in well,
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  Speaker 2: have a look at this, it was more like a coronation.
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  Speaker 7: We know, come to wonder Burnham member for maker Fields.
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  Speaker 2: Now it remains to be seen if Burnham is the Messiah,
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  Speaker 2: but he certainly didn't waste any time getting a selfie
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  Speaker 2: with the delirious Labor MPs who have clearly put their
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  Speaker 2: faith in him as their political lord and savior. I
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  Speaker 2: got to say that photograph smacks of presumption. It would
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  Speaker 2: have been far more appropriate not to mention tactful to
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  Speaker 2: take that photograph if and when he becomes Prime Minister,
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  Speaker 2: rather than two minutes after being sworn in as an MP,
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  Speaker 2: and while kiss Starmer's corpse is still warm, don't you think, Caleb?
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  Speaker 4: I don't particularly care. I mean, he's just been elected
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  Speaker 4: as a Labor MP in a by election. He's taken
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  Speaker 4: a photo with his labor colleagues. I mean, yes, and
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  Speaker 4: it seems like he's the only guy who's going to
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  Speaker 4: put his hand up for the job, which means he's
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  Speaker 4: going to become PM anyway. But can't he have a
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  Speaker 4: photo with his colleagues after being elected to parliament? Is
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  Speaker 4: he meant to now pretend that he doesn't exist for
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  Speaker 4: the next six weeks while we wait for.
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  Speaker 1: Sirquire to sort of slowly shuffle his.
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  Speaker 4: Way out of number ten. The guy is going to
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  Speaker 4: become PM. He was elected, he rocked up to take
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  Speaker 4: his oath and become an MP once again.
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  Speaker 1: This is his second state.
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  Speaker 4: He was in for nearly fifteen years last time, by
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  Speaker 4: the way, but he's wropped up for another stint. He
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  Speaker 4: has a photo with his labor colleagues.
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  Speaker 1: What's wrong with that?
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  Speaker 5: Well, well, firstly, he's not Prime Minister just yet and.
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  Speaker 1: You can't have photos unless your p in.
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  Speaker 5: But that to me screams of I'm here, I'm ready
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  Speaker 5: to go, I'm the Prime Minister. I mean all you
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  Speaker 5: needed was a sign saying hi, I'm Andy and I'm here.
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  Speaker 6: Basically ala alaa Kevin.
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  Speaker 1: Rutt I wouldn't go here in UK these.
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  Speaker 6: That's what this photo screams now.
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  Speaker 5: I mean there will be many people in the UK
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  Speaker 5: scratching their heads, going We'll hang on a second. This
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  Speaker 5: guy has gone from being the mayor of Greater Manchester
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  Speaker 5: to now possibly being the Prime Minister of Great Britain.
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  Speaker 5: What does he stand for? Who is he and what
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  Speaker 5: are his credentials? Nigel Farag was just on with Paul
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  Speaker 5: Murray and he was equally as confused.
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  Speaker 8: I have no idea what his policies are. I have
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  Speaker 8: no idea what he believes in. This is an historic
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  Speaker 8: flip flopper. It's the old story that a Blairite, a
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  Speaker 8: brown Heite and a Corbynite go into the pub and
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  Speaker 8: order a drink and the barman says, what will you
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  Speaker 8: be having, mister Burnham?
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  Speaker 5: And I think that that sums it up properly, and it
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  Speaker 5: sums up that picture. Can we just bring that photo
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  Speaker 5: up again please? Because the first thing that caught my eye,
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  Speaker 5: look how many women are surrounding him? Now, in my view,
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  Speaker 5: that was deliberate. He put women around him because he went,
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  Speaker 5: look this is a typical of the left and the
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  Speaker 5: labor playbook, isn't it.
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  Speaker 6: I'm surrounded by women. I'm so inclusive.
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  Speaker 5: We've seen it here in Australia with Anthony Alberzi.
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  Speaker 6: This was a deliberate tactic.
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  Speaker 5: So really to me it's like yeh new prime minister,
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  Speaker 5: but probably same old Kia star moresque.
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  Speaker 2: You combine that photograph with the way he sauntered into
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  Speaker 2: the House of Commons to roars of approval, you would
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  Speaker 2: have thought the Labor Party would be a little humble
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  Speaker 2: rather than triumphant right now, considering the country is in
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  Speaker 2: an absolute mess.
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  Speaker 3: They've created most of it.
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  Speaker 2: Now they've got a situation where the country may not
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  Speaker 2: have a prime minister in effect for a month or more,
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  Speaker 2: and they're parading around like it's a great moment for them,
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  Speaker 2: and that I think is the problem. It's all about
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  Speaker 2: them and there's scant regard for the long suffering British public.
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  Speaker 4: Well that might be right, I mean the point you
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  Speaker 4: make about the women, Daneka, when I'm surrounded by women,
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  Speaker 4: it's not because of inclusivity.
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  Speaker 6: It should go all right.
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  Speaker 4: But honestly, I really think this is much ado about nothing.
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  Speaker 4: The guy is going to become the prime minister. I
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  Speaker 4: think we can all see that.
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  Speaker 3: Do you agree he looks cocky?
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  Speaker 1: Well why wouldn't you look cocky? You've just won.
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  Speaker 3: Because you'd read the room and be a little humble.
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  Speaker 4: No, I'm sorry, why would you you've managed to knock
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  Speaker 4: off the prime minister, you're going to become the next
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  Speaker 4: guy in the job. Is it really a time to
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  Speaker 4: be all that humble? Of course he's full of himself
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  Speaker 4: as well. He deserves to be. He gets to sit
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  Speaker 4: in the hot seat for a while. I mean, he
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  Speaker 4: may well feel very differently in a few months.
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  Speaker 1: Time after he's had a go at the job.
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  Speaker 4: But if I were him, I don't blame him for
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  Speaker 4: feeling that way. And honestly, I don't see what the
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  Speaker 4: issue is with him having a photo with his colleagues.
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  Speaker 1: The reality is that guys have about to.
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  Speaker 4: Become prime minister. What we all meant to pretend for
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  Speaker 4: the next six weeks that he's not?
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  Speaker 6: Is it? Just hold off?
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  Speaker 5: I think, hold off until you've introduced yourself properly to
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  Speaker 5: the nation that you are about to serve. I just
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  Speaker 5: think it's very self serving what he's done.
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  Speaker 4: Well, it's ridiculous, maybe so, but he's a politician, isn't he.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, what else do we expect?
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  Speaker 2: Is it insensitive to his good friend Kirstarmer, who he's
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  Speaker 2: I don't think.
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  Speaker 6: It gives two Why wout care seriously, book?
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  Speaker 4: I mean, as you know, I've said before that I
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  Speaker 4: believe that sirqu should not be rolled in any way.
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  Speaker 4: I don't think he had to resign yesterday, and he
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  Speaker 4: should have waited until Burnham managed to come up with
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  Speaker 4: the eighty one signatures eighty plus his own that he
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  Speaker 4: needed in order to bring on a spill, which has
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  Speaker 4: never been done in the history of the Labor Party
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  Speaker 4: one hundred and twenty odd years in the United Kingdom.
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  Speaker 4: You know, I think he deserved to stay there. But
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  Speaker 4: you know, Burnham's been successful in this drive and so
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  Speaker 4: he probably has the right to feel a little bit
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  Speaker 4: cocky right now. I understand why the Labor Party is
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  Speaker 4: feeling a little bit cocky as well, because they're like,
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  Speaker 4: thank god, we got rid of that bloke who's not
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  Speaker 4: done terribly well for us. Maybe we've got a chance now.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, as we were talking about last night, the
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  Speaker 4: polling at the moment says that this would put them
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  Speaker 4: on level footing with reform. But there's a lot more
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  Speaker 4: to come afterwards. But you know, look, I couldn't particularly
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  Speaker 4: care whether he's had a photo with his colleagues or not,
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  Speaker 4: because we have much bigger fish to fry, including whether
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  Speaker 4: one of the other MP's who was sworn in yesterday.
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  Speaker 4: They had three by elections last week. One of them
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  Speaker 4: is a woman by the name of Lara Bird who
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  Speaker 4: has been sworn in as the new MP for our
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  Speaker 4: Broth and Broughty Ferry, which is an electorate in Scotland.
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  Speaker 4: She is a member of the Scottish National Party. But
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  Speaker 4: has she been sworn in or not? Because this is
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  Speaker 4: what happened in the Parliament and pay attention to her fingers.
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  Speaker 9: I take this oath only so that I can serve
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  Speaker 9: the people of our birth and Rotty Ferry. My first
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  Speaker 9: allegiance is and always will be the sovereign people of Scotland.
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  Speaker 9: I do swear that I will be faithful and their
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  Speaker 9: true allegiance to His Majesty King Charles, his heirs and successors,
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  Speaker 9: according to the law.
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  Speaker 3: So help me God.
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  Speaker 4: So before she's even taken the oath, she's basically said,
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  Speaker 4: I couldn't give a toss bag about this oath. I'm
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  Speaker 4: only doing it so I can take the job and
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  Speaker 4: the money, Thank you very much, And then she crosses her.
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  Speaker 1: Fingers as she gives the oath.
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  Speaker 4: Now, I'm sure you know as well, do I that
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  Speaker 4: you know traditionally, crossing your fingers while you make a
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  Speaker 4: promise is saying that you do not actually make that promise.
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  Speaker 4: It's meant to be some sort of get out course.
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  Speaker 4: So I mean, has she actually taken the oath? Has she,
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  Speaker 4: in doing so, negated the fact that she's taken the oath?
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  Speaker 4: I suppose it would have to go off to court
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  Speaker 4: if someone really wanted to challenge it, because you could
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  Speaker 4: probably technically argue that you read out those words and
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  Speaker 4: therefore you have taken the oath and that whatever you
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  Speaker 4: were doing with your hands at the time has no
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  Speaker 4: legal standing. But the intent of it is to say
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  Speaker 4: that I do not agree to the oath that I'm taking,
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  Speaker 4: and I'm only doing it so I consider in this parliament,
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  Speaker 4: I don't actually pledge allegiance to the king and his
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  Speaker 4: heirs and successes. If you can't do it, you shouldn't
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  Speaker 4: take the job in the first place.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, if you don't want to swear allegiance, don't swear allegiance.
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  Speaker 3: Do what shin Fein do?
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  Speaker 2: They don't want to swear allegiance and therefore they don't
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  Speaker 2: sit in the House, and they don't vote on certain things,
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  Speaker 2: and they don't get paid in the way that they
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  Speaker 2: would otherwise. You can't demand trust while signaling insincerity to everybody.
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  Speaker 2: But in terms of the oath itself, Danika could have
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  Speaker 2: harrot take the oath, my point being if you say
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  Speaker 2: the words, have you taken the oath or do you
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  Speaker 2: actually have to mean it? Because she would say, well,
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  Speaker 2: I took the oath, I said what they told me
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  Speaker 2: to say. Yeah, But at the same time she's indicating
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  Speaker 2: I don't mean a word that I'm saying, and Lydia
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  Speaker 2: Thorpe of course did the same here. In fact, we've
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  Speaker 2: got some vision back in twenty twenty two when she
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  Speaker 2: took her oath in the Australian Parliament.
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  Speaker 1: Hairs and Successes.
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  Speaker 4: According to colonizing her Majesty, Queen Elizabeth.
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  Speaker 5: The six Senator thought you are required to recite the
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  Speaker 5: oath as printed on the cards.
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  Speaker 2: Now, people didn't pick it up at the time, but
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  Speaker 2: Lady Lydia Thorpe explained that she swore allegiance to the
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  Speaker 2: King and.
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  Speaker 3: His heirs rather than his heirs, and.
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  Speaker 2: So that was her get out clause, which she thought
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  Speaker 2: was very clever. I think it should automatically disqualify you.
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  Speaker 5: I think absolutely in the end, when you are it
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  Speaker 5: is an honor to be elected to Parliament or to
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  Speaker 5: be elected to your local area.
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  Speaker 6: It is an honor to serve.
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  Speaker 5: And when you go into the Parliament you have to
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  Speaker 5: take that role very seriously because you do have a
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  Speaker 5: very big responsibility on your hands. And then to stand
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  Speaker 5: up there to make that pledge, to pledge that you
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  Speaker 5: know what you are going to serve your people, your
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  Speaker 5: electorate to the best of your capabilities, and then to
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  Speaker 5: make a signal with your hand like that. To me,
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  Speaker 5: that looks like a child throwing its toys out of
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  Speaker 5: the cot. It is so childish. And as for this woman,
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  Speaker 5: I was doing a bit of research into her. She's
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  Speaker 5: a pro Palestine advocate, so much so that she was
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  Speaker 5: an alumna of the Britain Palestine Project Fellowship program. So
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  Speaker 5: I think that she's always had obviously these very.
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  Speaker 6: Left leaning views.
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  Speaker 5: But it doesn't actually strengthen the case really for Scottish independence,
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  Speaker 5: because what it's done is drawn.
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  Speaker 6: Attention to her.
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  Speaker 5: The other thing I would make is now I think
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  Speaker 5: that she's obviously a very attractive woman. This is nothing
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  Speaker 5: against the way she looks, but what she was wearing.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know if you saw as she entered Parliament,
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  Speaker 5: that was my first thought how inappropriate she was. I
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  Speaker 5: don't know if we've got the full vision, but she
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  Speaker 5: had on a mini skirt.
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  Speaker 6: And knee high boots.
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  Speaker 5: Now I don't think that that is appropriate clothing for
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  Speaker 5: Parliament for your first day either. I think that something
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  Speaker 5: more modest would have been much more sufficient. That's not
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  Speaker 5: attacking this woman, because I think she's obviously a very
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  Speaker 5: attractive woman. Speak for you, but I don't believe that
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  Speaker 5: what she was wearing was it was entirely inappropriate.
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  Speaker 6: She's not taking it seriously enough.
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  Speaker 1: And this is not the first time this has happened either.
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  Speaker 4: Another bloke from the SNP, Stephen Bonner, did this in
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  Speaker 4: twenty nineteen as well.
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  Speaker 1: Take a look.
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  Speaker 2: I think that's all the unsure that I can represent
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  Speaker 2: the people I called friends, police and Perlson Scott.
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  Speaker 4: So I mean there's a present here that the SNP
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  Speaker 4: has set where they do this, and I suppose this
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  Speaker 4: would be the argument as well.
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  Speaker 1: You know, he got away with it, so why can't
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  Speaker 1: someone else get away that?
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  Speaker 4: If there do ever agree a challenge, but I'd actually
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  Speaker 4: I'd like to see someone run a case just to
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  Speaker 4: prove a point. You know, there'd be some lawyer in
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  Speaker 4: the UK somewhere who surely you'd be willing to do
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  Speaker 4: it pro bono, just to try and test the boundaries
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  Speaker 4: and see where it would go. Because if, as you say, James,
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  Speaker 4: if you say the oath without the intent of believing it,
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  Speaker 4: then have you actually given an oath at all? Because
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  Speaker 4: an oath is fundamentally about truth, and what you were
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  Speaker 4: doing is being untruthful in reading out those words.
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  Speaker 2: And surely the Speaker of the House should grow a
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  Speaker 2: set and say no, no, say the oath properly, uncross
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  Speaker 2: your fingers. If you can't say it without signaling that
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  Speaker 2: you don't mean it, well then maybe get out.
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  Speaker 3: Of the house.
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  Speaker 2: The Speaker should take some responsibility for this as well.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm completely agree.
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  Speaker 5: Now, look, if you're not interested at all in British politics,
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  Speaker 5: I know something that may pique your interest.
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  Speaker 6: I'm going to show you a chap.
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  Speaker 5: Who's gone viral at the moment, only known as Podium
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  Speaker 5: Man going viral because apparently he's the hottest thing in
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  Speaker 5: Britain right now. This is forty two year old Tobias Goff.
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  Speaker 5: He is the sound engineer at Downing Street and well,
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  Speaker 5: look he's doing the rounds because of his physique. I
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  Speaker 5: must say, I think the physique's fantastic. I think he's
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  Speaker 5: a very handsome man myself. Somebody said the sound engineer
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  Speaker 5: has quickly become the only thing Britain's can rely on
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  Speaker 5: in these trying times. Now, Tobias has actually outlived the
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  Speaker 5: last five prime ministers.
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  Speaker 6: He's outlast at all five.
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  Speaker 5: And he first gained popularity in twenty nineteen when he's
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  Speaker 5: set up for Theresa May's resignation address. And ever since
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  Speaker 5: then there's been one resignation or one outing after another,
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  Speaker 5: and Tobias has been rolled out and the internet is
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  Speaker 5: going absolutely crazy. He's so hot, one has written, other
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  Speaker 5: has gone that was me obviously. Others have joke have
• 15:59
  Speaker 5: jokingly said he should be given the top job.
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  Speaker 3: Also, Denica, that was also me.
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  Speaker 6: Just make him the prime minister. At this point, he
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  Speaker 6: is reliable and consistent.
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  Speaker 3: Job.
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  Speaker 6: He is, mister mister reliable. There you go, podium man.
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  Speaker 3: Now.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know what you two gentlemen think of it.
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  Speaker 5: I think it's quite a welcome de light out of
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  Speaker 5: Downing streets.
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  Speaker 2: It's almost like you're praying for prime ministers to fall
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: so you can see Tobias again.
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: Well why not?
• 16:23
  Speaker 5: I mean again, if you're not interested in British British politics,
• 16:26
  Speaker 5: then then Tobias might turn your head.
• 16:28
  Speaker 4: I didn't know that this program had turned into a
• 16:31
  Speaker 4: vehicle for you to just froth shame is married, so
• 16:34
  Speaker 4: that you could announce on television in the hopes that
• 16:36
  Speaker 4: they might then hit you up in the on Instagram.
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: Don't encouraging and ask you what on a date? But
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: seriously though, so so here we are.
• 16:45
  Speaker 4: There are you know, stories being written in major news
• 16:48
  Speaker 4: outlets in the UK. We're here having a discussion on
• 16:51
  Speaker 4: telling you about Oh how funny is it they said
• 16:54
  Speaker 4: this all the women frothen over this bloke?
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: How hot he is? Do you reckon this had happened
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: for a woman?
• 17:00
  Speaker 4: I mean, if we were to sit here tonight and
• 17:03
  Speaker 4: have a discussion and you know, James and or I
• 17:08
  Speaker 4: were saying, oh, you know there was this really hot
• 17:11
  Speaker 4: female soundtickie there last night, jeezh she was a bit
• 17:16
  Speaker 4: of all right, I reckon I'd give her the top
• 17:18
  Speaker 4: job now.
• 17:19
  Speaker 10: Sa that exactly would that flying women's exactly. She's only
• 17:24
  Speaker 10: doing a job. How dare you talk about her look?
• 17:26
  Speaker 10: She should be talking about how is good? She isn't
• 17:28
  Speaker 10: doing her job? Why are you talking about the looks?
• 17:31
  Speaker 10: That sexist?
• 17:32
  Speaker 4: Ra rahrah, that's the discussion we would be having now.
• 17:36
  Speaker 4: I am not offended as a bloke about you saying
• 17:39
  Speaker 4: you got the hots for him, or anyone else saying
• 17:41
  Speaker 4: they've got the hots for him. But there is a
• 17:44
  Speaker 4: double standard at play here because if that were a woman,
• 17:48
  Speaker 4: those stories would never be written. We wouldn't be able
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: to have this discussion on television. I mean, we could
• 17:53
  Speaker 4: do it, but we'd be written up tomorrow in all
• 17:55
  Speaker 4: the lefty rags about how we'd had this sexist discussion
• 17:58
  Speaker 4: about a woman's looks and we hadn't talked about it
• 18:00
  Speaker 4: job instead. There is absolutely a double standard at play here.
• 18:04
  Speaker 5: But you know what, Okay, if you said a woman,
• 18:07
  Speaker 5: if you know it was a female, fine, and you
• 18:09
  Speaker 5: said she's beautiful, she is gorgeous, Yeah, I feel like
• 18:14
  Speaker 5: that would be passable.
• 18:15
  Speaker 6: But if you said, oh, she's.
• 18:17
  Speaker 5: Hot, he's hot as hell, I don't know, all right,
• 18:19
  Speaker 5: I think that that people would be I do a great.
• 18:22
  Speaker 6: I don't agree with it because I don't agree right.
• 18:24
  Speaker 4: So let me read you the story, just a couple
• 18:26
  Speaker 4: of parts from the story that we're talking about here.
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: It begins, as it turns out, there's an unlikely, yet
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: full proof method to get people to care about politics.
• 18:35
  Speaker 4: I'm now going to substitute the man for the woman here.
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: You just have to place a ridiculously good looking woman
• 18:40
  Speaker 4: in front of the Prime minister's podium. And that's exactly
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: what's happening in the UK right now? Do you reckon
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: those words would be written in a newspaper.
• 18:48
  Speaker 6: No, no, exactly, not precisely.
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: When it's a man, you get away with it.
• 18:52
  Speaker 6: Yeah, no, I do. I do a great. I'm not
• 18:54
  Speaker 6: saying that.
• 18:54
  Speaker 5: I think it's ridiculous because I think that you know,
• 18:58
  Speaker 5: if a woman is attractive, you say, yes, she is.
• 19:01
  Speaker 6: But I also think it's the tone of it.
• 19:02
  Speaker 5: There's a difference between saying she's beautiful, she's gorgeous, versus
• 19:06
  Speaker 5: are that bad?
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: I tell you, right, this is a question, right, So
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: why is the tone he's hot acceptable but she's hot
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: is not acceptable?
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: Why?
• 19:16
  Speaker 5: I think I think it's Look, I think think firstly,
• 19:19
  Speaker 5: I think me too, has just completely killed any sort
• 19:23
  Speaker 5: of compliments that men ever give women, because I think
• 19:27
  Speaker 5: there are women, and especially on the lefts of the left,
• 19:30
  Speaker 5: that are so hyper sensitive now to compliments because they go, oh,
• 19:33
  Speaker 5: that's sexual harassment, and that is true. I mean, I
• 19:36
  Speaker 5: know there are some of my friends that I know
• 19:38
  Speaker 5: they don't like male compliments because I take it as harassment.
• 19:41
  Speaker 5: It's true, and I think it's very, very sad. So
• 19:43
  Speaker 5: I do think that there is that factor. But it's
• 19:46
  Speaker 5: also that women traditionally have never been taken seriously. Not
• 19:50
  Speaker 5: that I necessarily agree with that, but I just think
• 19:52
  Speaker 5: that there is perception in society that it's, you know,
• 19:54
  Speaker 5: it's a man's world, or it's a man's job. In
• 19:55
  Speaker 5: a politicism is a man's world. Women try and you know,
• 19:58
  Speaker 5: women want to be taken for I.
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: Reckon you might have a point there, because like it
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: or not, there's a long history of women being reduced
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: to just their looks, right, that's undeniable.
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: There's a long history of that.
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: So is it okay, then, Caleb, for society to be
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: a little bit sensitive about that.
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: Well, I think if you want a quality, you get
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: a quality, and that means everyone's treated in the same manner,
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: doesn't it. I mean, you know, as a woman, you
• 20:23
  Speaker 4: can have a high flying job in pretty much any
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: part not.
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: Any part of the world.
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: There are some plazas where we're banned as a woman
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: from having a job, but not here in the West,
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: and thank God for that. We've moved beyond those times,
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: and rightly so. But having moved beyond those times, surely
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: we now apply the same standard to everyone, whether that
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: is your ability to get and hold down a job,
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: but also the fact that you know, if we want
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: to say you're good looking in the newspaper and on
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: the television, it should apply equally to men or women.
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: What's good for the goose is good for the gander.
• 20:53
  Speaker 5: Well, here's what I'll say. I think that Tobias would
• 20:55
  Speaker 5: be a fine engineer.
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: And apparently.
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: What does it say about British politics though that the
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: guy who does the sound outside number ten has a
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: higher popularity rating than the primate or the opposition lead
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: running Brits are.
• 21:14
  Speaker 5: Just he could work on the letter. He could definitely
• 21:17
  Speaker 5: were at work on the latter lady a.
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: Reason reason it was at least yeah.
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: All right, A couple of weeks ago, I had my
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: first ever game of pickleball, And.
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: Have you played? How'd you go? Did you?
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: Have you played?
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: No?
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: I have.
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: We don't knock something you've never tried.
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: But you never told us that you played pickleball.
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: Because I made this great revelation on the late Debate
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: when neither of you were here. But yeah, I played
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: pickleball and quite enjoyed it. The advantage of pickaballa.
• 21:48
  Speaker 5: Well, can you explain, Maybe you should explain what pickleball is.
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: It's tennis for people who don't want to run.
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you kind of the ball.
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: It's it's a ball, but it's like plastic and it's
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: got holes in it.
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: So like, are you a tennis player?
• 22:02
  Speaker 6: Oh?
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: No, okay, So if we played.
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: Tennis, it'd be kind of pointless because the ball would
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: bounce so much and you'd never get to it, et cetera.
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: Whereas the plastic ball with holes in it, it sort
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: of moves more slowly through the air, so it gives someone.
• 22:16
  Speaker 5: Is it like squash or is it like a bad
• 22:18
  Speaker 5: like squash badminton?
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: Yeah, a little bit like that.
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: It's a slower sort of a game and on a
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: smaller court anyway, it's growing in popularity. Back in twenty fifteen,
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: no one had heard of pickleball. Ten years later, there's
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: at least two hundred thousand Australians who were playing it
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: on a regular basis, and there's courts popping up all
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: over the country. Brisbane City Council has got a couple
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: of courts at Holland Park and they decided to add
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: three more at a cost of two hundred and forty
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: thousand dollars. However, locals have campaigned against it. Not because
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: and here's the point of the story, not because they
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: have an objection to pickleball or even to an expansion
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: of the courts. No, No, their problem is that the
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: Brisbane City Council didn't go through the right process and
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: consult with them regarding the expansion of the courts. A
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: gentleman who's been involved in previous labor campaigns and lives
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: across the road from the park told the newspaper that
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: he didn't oppose the plan for new courts. In fact,
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: he plays pickleball himself, but he didn't like the fact
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: that residents had not been consulted. Is this politicizing public
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: infrastructure and is it confusing democracy? Which they claim has
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: not been upheld here with a right to veto every
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: decision that you must have a say on whatever the
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: council does. You voted at an election. Let the council
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: get on with doing what they're doing. They don't need
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: to check in with every single thing with local residents.
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: Granted there are development laws etc. But in this case,
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: their problem is not that development laws have been contravened.
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: It's just that they didn't get a say and so
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: they've protested and now the Brisbane City Council has backed down.
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: It's not like they were proposing putting a Stonking Great
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: apartment building in the exactly park, right, I mean, what
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: is public space for if not for public use, and
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: they were going to put something in there that was
• 24:15
  Speaker 4: fundamentally for the purpose of public user. I'm not sure
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: how you then argue that, well, actually I have no
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: problem with the pickleball court, but I'm really upset with
• 24:24
  Speaker 4: the fact I wasn't told there would be a pickleball court,
• 24:27
  Speaker 4: and so on that basis, I'm going to protest there
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: being a pickleball court, and now I'm happy that the
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: council got rid of it. I mean, did you want
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: the pickleball court and not in.
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: The first place.
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: I think the council is pretty weak for giving into this.
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: To be perfectly honest, yes they probably could have handled
• 24:43
  Speaker 4: a consultation better, but it's just.
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: Nimbiism, isn't it all.
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: There's this classic case in North Adelaide, and Adelaide viewers
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: will probably know what I'm talking about, where there was
• 24:56
  Speaker 4: a tennis court public tennis court been continually pad locked
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: up by residents to stop people from coming and using
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: the tennis courts because it was opposite houses and they
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: thought it created too much noise and whatever, and they
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: were basically keeping the public dinners court. It's their private
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: tennis court for.
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: All the houses in the street. So maybe that's what
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: they wanted.
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: They wanted a little private pickleball called in the park
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: over the road that.
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: No one else could use.
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: But seriously, like it's a public park, shouldn't it have
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: things in it for the public to use.
• 25:30
  Speaker 5: Honestly, these sorts of people, you just wonder how they
• 25:32
  Speaker 5: survived day by day because all they do is complain.
• 25:34
  Speaker 5: And once again it's like Nimby's on the loose. They've
• 25:37
  Speaker 5: always got something to complain about.
• 25:39
  Speaker 6: In an era where.
• 25:40
  Speaker 5: People are on their phones, on social media, on laptops,
• 25:44
  Speaker 5: on computers. Why wouldn't you encourage people to get out more,
• 25:49
  Speaker 5: Go and have fun in your local area. Go and
• 25:51
  Speaker 5: play a couple of rounds of pickleball, catch up with mates,
• 25:55
  Speaker 5: have a good time. This actually encourages activity in my view.
• 26:00
  Speaker 5: Some of the residents, they made a few complaints. One
• 26:02
  Speaker 5: they were worried about the noise that the pickleball makes.
• 26:05
  Speaker 5: I mean, maybe you can shed some light on the.
• 26:07
  Speaker 6: Noise of the pickle ball. I hit it pretty hard,
• 26:10
  Speaker 6: sorry in the Olympics.
• 26:13
  Speaker 5: And the other complaint that they made as well, that
• 26:15
  Speaker 5: that particular park doesn't have a toilet block, and then
• 26:18
  Speaker 5: they also said that there would not be enough.
• 26:20
  Speaker 6: Room for these courts.
• 26:22
  Speaker 5: Well, how about you just leave the council to deal
• 26:24
  Speaker 5: with those sorts of matters instead of trying to take
• 26:26
  Speaker 5: matters into your own hands and deciding what can fit
• 26:29
  Speaker 5: into the park and what can't fit into that park.
• 26:32
  Speaker 5: But I just think that a small upgrade. This really
• 26:35
  Speaker 5: isn't that big of an upgrade when you think about it.
• 26:37
  Speaker 5: As you said, it's not an apartment tower. A small
• 26:39
  Speaker 5: upgrade to try and make a piece of utility fun
• 26:43
  Speaker 5: for everybody. I think is absolutely fantastic in an era
• 26:46
  Speaker 5: where we're all sitting down inside and on our phones.
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: I just want to know why is it called pickleball?
• 26:51
  Speaker 6: Yeah? Why is it called pickleball?
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: It's a terrible name. Yeah, the sport last.
• 26:57
  Speaker 6: The Olympian in the middle here, he might shed some
• 26:59
  Speaker 6: light on that one.
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: To thee it goes back hundreds of years to the
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: Roman Empire. Kleber, Oh God, I don't know, because don't
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: you smile when you say pickleball. I mean when you
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: said pickleball like five times in sixty seconds. Danik and
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: I are both sitting here smiling, wondering how many times
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: is he going to say it?
• 27:14
  Speaker 4: Well, how you meant to take a sport seriously? If
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: the name elicits, you know, hilarity, like, it's not going
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: to be put on the same level of tennis or
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: cricket or you know, football or anything. If everyone goes, oh,
• 27:25
  Speaker 4: what the hell's pickleball? Like it's just a stupid name.
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: It actually seems like an appealing sport. But I'm inclined not.
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: To give it a go because it's called pickleball.
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: That is protesting the court Nimby just you.
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: Know, I'm sorry. I just like imagine telling people what
• 27:41
  Speaker 4: are you doing tonight? I'm going to play pickleball? I
• 27:43
  Speaker 4: don't know, makes you sound.
• 27:45
  Speaker 6: Like people have they done kleb?
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: Okay, what about producers just said to ask you, do
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: you play squash?
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: Well? Is that not a silly name?
• 27:52
  Speaker 4: I haven't played squash? And what is the origin of
• 27:55
  Speaker 4: squash now that you mention it?
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: You know, I don't know.
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: Maybe the bloke who came up with pickleball was eating
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: a pickle and the bloke who came up with squash
• 28:02
  Speaker 4: was drinking a lemon squash or something at the time.
• 28:05
  Speaker 4: I have no idea a woman for that matter, because
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: of course we're not sexist here on the late debate,
• 28:10
  Speaker 4: as were established much earlier. Now, I'm sure we've all
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: been in the position where you're on a plane and
• 28:16
  Speaker 4: there is a screaming child and you just wish they
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: would shut up, or even worse, you have a kid
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: in the seat behind you kicking the seat. It's an annoyance.
• 28:28
  Speaker 4: It is absolutely an annoyance, and I can understand that
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: some parents might find it exceedingly difficult to rain their
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: child in this circumstance, particularly if it's the first time
• 28:39
  Speaker 4: on a plane. But you know, if you've had a
• 28:40
  Speaker 4: long day and you're flying somewhere, or you're trying to
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: get some work done, or you're going for meetings and
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: you've got a lot of work to get done on
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: the day, and you're just sitting there and some kid
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: is just continually.
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: Third, third, third in.
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: The back, it gets old hat pretty quickly. Well, a
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: chap in the United States decided to take this.
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: Up for himself. Didn't go so well. They stop kicking
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: the sins.
• 29:11
  Speaker 6: Oh, come on, man, stop kicking it and done.
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: Now, look the way he handled it.
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: You know, he's probably a bit of an anchor if
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: anchor had a w in front of it. But I
• 29:22
  Speaker 4: do understand what he is annoyed by. And the response
• 29:27
  Speaker 4: of the mother again, I look, he was probably a
• 29:29
  Speaker 4: bit adversarial and in the way he approached it.
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: But the response of the mother like, well are you
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: telling him to stop?
• 29:35
  Speaker 4: Like she could have said, oh, look, I'm really sorry mate,
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: I'll I'll just try and do something about it, like
• 29:41
  Speaker 4: aren't you meant to control your kid?
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: In those circumstances.
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: Again, he probably didn't go about it the right way,
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: But I understand where his anger is coming from.
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he's got every right to be upset.
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: The problem with the woman is, you know, you can't
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: decide I might begin disciplining my children on a flight
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: at thirty thousand feet if you haven't been disciplining them
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: for a long period before you get on the plane,
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: Good luck trying to control them in a tin cylinder
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: where they've got nothing to do for hours. So I
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: think a lot of kids play up on planes because
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: they're used to playing up, and mum and dad can't
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: control them, and so then everybody else had to suffer.
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: My question about that was who filmed that?
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: He think it was?
• 30:20
  Speaker 6: I think he filmed it.
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: See that makes me less because when you try and
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: deal with something in good faith, you're not holding your phone.
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: They're videoing the reactions.
• 30:30
  Speaker 4: So yeah, i'd be fair. We don't know what happened
• 30:32
  Speaker 4: before he too. I mean, he could have tried to
• 30:34
  Speaker 4: ask politely who knows, and then you've got the ritz
• 30:37
  Speaker 4: and decided that's what he was going to do.
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: But I mean, he didn't help his case.
• 30:40
  Speaker 5: But yeah, I think that the filming was wrong, and
• 30:43
  Speaker 5: I think he's sort of in that video he appeared
• 30:45
  Speaker 5: to sort of laugh at her.
• 30:47
  Speaker 6: He didn't take it right.
• 30:49
  Speaker 5: But secondly, you know, you've got to take some control
• 30:53
  Speaker 5: over your kids, and I worry about this era of
• 30:57
  Speaker 5: soft parenting where it's love.
• 30:59
  Speaker 6: Don't do that.
• 31:00
  Speaker 5: Listen, the kid's going to outsmart you every single time.
• 31:03
  Speaker 5: I don't know if you ever had any issues on
• 31:05
  Speaker 5: flights with your two boys when they were younger, but
• 31:09
  Speaker 5: this is a prime example of soft parenting in my view,
• 31:13
  Speaker 5: and the parents need to be taking responsibility here. I
• 31:16
  Speaker 5: do have a degree of sympathy for parents on flights
• 31:19
  Speaker 5: because there is always a risk that you don't know
• 31:21
  Speaker 5: what your child's going to do.
• 31:23
  Speaker 6: Just like anywhere you go.
• 31:24
  Speaker 5: If you take your child to the supermarket, are they
• 31:26
  Speaker 5: going to start screaming because they're absolutely.
• 31:28
  Speaker 6: Exhausted in the middle of Aisle four? You just don't
• 31:31
  Speaker 6: know what the kid is going to do.
• 31:33
  Speaker 5: But in that case, the kid was clearly kicking and
• 31:37
  Speaker 5: kicking and kicking.
• 31:38
  Speaker 6: She should have controlled a child.
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: Joe and Ben.
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: We flew a lot with Joe and Ben when they
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: were young, and they were always really good flyers, not
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: because they were particularly good kids, they just knew we
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: will tell you once and then you'll be smacked. And
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: they did not doubt that that would happen. And it's
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: amazing how that prompted good behavior.
• 31:58
  Speaker 6: There you go.
• 31:58
  Speaker 5: See, you controlled the kids.
• 32:00
  Speaker 6: That is not soft parenting.
• 32:02
  Speaker 5: That's exactly what I'm talking about.
• 32:04
  Speaker 6: Okay.
• 32:05
  Speaker 5: The next story comes with a bit of a trigger
• 32:06
  Speaker 5: warning cyclists and bike lanes.
• 32:09
  Speaker 6: Now, I know some of you out there will already
• 32:11
  Speaker 6: be going ooh no at the thought of it.
• 32:13
  Speaker 5: Okay, but in Adelaide, the city Council there are now
• 32:17
  Speaker 5: proposing lower speed limits and pop up bike lanes along
• 32:21
  Speaker 5: the CBD's busiest roads. As this council considers ways to
• 32:25
  Speaker 5: make the city safer and more attractive for cyclists, it
• 32:29
  Speaker 5: is investigating options for a one hundred and fifty thousand
• 32:33
  Speaker 5: dollars pop up cycling trial, intending to erect at least
• 32:37
  Speaker 5: one pop up bikeway along a city street running north,
• 32:40
  Speaker 5: south and east west in the coming months. Councilor Eleanor Freeman,
• 32:45
  Speaker 5: she put forward this motion back in April to investigate
• 32:48
  Speaker 5: whether this would be successful, and just read what she said.
• 32:51
  Speaker 5: She goes, we now have a pretty significant increase in
• 32:53
  Speaker 5: cycling happening across the city. We're getting denser, not everyone
• 32:57
  Speaker 5: that lives in the city drives around, So it's starting
• 32:59
  Speaker 5: to get to a point for we just can't keep
• 33:01
  Speaker 5: deferring these hard decisions. We need to think about them
• 33:04
  Speaker 5: now or we're never going to achieve that future cycling
• 33:07
  Speaker 5: network that's in our integrated transport strategy. Why don't these
• 33:12
  Speaker 5: councils just bugger off and just quit it, you know,
• 33:15
  Speaker 5: if they're not erecting cycling lanes or encouraging more cyclists
• 33:20
  Speaker 5: because they're obsessed by the green dream. I mean, look
• 33:22
  Speaker 5: what's happening in the Sydney City Council, for example. Now
• 33:25
  Speaker 5: they just want to penalize motorists once again by spending
• 33:29
  Speaker 5: one hundred and fifty thousand dollars for goodness sake investigating
• 33:32
  Speaker 5: where the pop up bike bicycle lanes and lowering speed
• 33:35
  Speaker 5: limits are a good idea. I mean, all that is
• 33:38
  Speaker 5: going to do is actually slow down traffic. And there
• 33:41
  Speaker 5: are people who do need to drive into the city,
• 33:43
  Speaker 5: who need to use their cars. They can't just cycle
• 33:45
  Speaker 5: in or just trot in whenever they feel like it.
• 33:48
  Speaker 5: But once again, it's these councils not really doing the
• 33:51
  Speaker 5: usual the things that they're that they're elected to do,
• 33:54
  Speaker 5: wanting to pursue other interests like.
• 33:56
  Speaker 4: This, Well, they could have pop up bike lanes, just
• 33:58
  Speaker 4: pop them up into the sky by helpful, wouldn't it.
• 34:01
  Speaker 4: And what really annoys me about this is that it
• 34:03
  Speaker 4: would also be in conjunction potentially. I mean, this is
• 34:06
  Speaker 4: ideas they're looking at. It's not hasn't we decided on yet?
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: But also taking away parking spots right, And the population
• 34:14
  Speaker 4: of Adelaide, like every other city, is only increasing, and
• 34:19
  Speaker 4: that will necessarily mean that there are more cars.
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: On the road. But you know these councils, they.
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: Don't like that.
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: Oh no, no, no, we're going to try.
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: And force people into riding their bikes instead. But more
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: people means more cars, means more people who might want
• 34:31
  Speaker 4: to come into the city. So what are we going
• 34:33
  Speaker 4: to do for city businesses? We're going to make it
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: harder for people to bring their cars into the city
• 34:38
  Speaker 4: and get a park.
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: Like, explain the logic to me here.
• 34:42
  Speaker 4: If you are a business, a rate paying business in
• 34:45
  Speaker 4: the city, and the councilor is turning around saying, actually,
• 34:48
  Speaker 4: we're going to make it harder for people to get
• 34:50
  Speaker 4: into the CBD you've got the right to be pretty
• 34:53
  Speaker 4: angry with this stuff.
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: I reckon yep, absolutely.
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: Just before we go to a break, I want to
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: get your opinion on an interesting story today, which is
• 35:01
  Speaker 2: not teaching the Holocaust in history classes because they're worried.
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: About the reaction of Muslim students.
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: This is a study that's been done of Australian teachers,
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: one of whom told the authors of the study, many
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: of our students are of Middle Eastern background, and I've
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: decided not to teach the Diary of Anne Frank for instance,
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: this term to my year nine history elective class because
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: of their views on Jewish people in the Israeli Palestine conflict.
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: They've got the Union to ask for guidance as to
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: how they should teach, or if they should teach the
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: Holocaust at all. My initial response would be, of course
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: he should teach, it's part of the curriculum.
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: Do your job. But what if these aren't woke teachers.
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: What if these are just teachers who are genuinely concerned
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: about what teaching Jewish history might do or incite in
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: the classroom. Johannes Leak captured that feeling well with a
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: cartoon in the Australian Today.
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: Here it is.
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: He's got a teacher who's head has been removed from
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: his shoulders, saying, okay, we won't be reading Anne Frank's
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: diary this term. You've talked me out of it very quickly.
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: We haven't got much time before the ad break, but
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: Deanika already has.
• 36:11
  Speaker 5: Thought, well, well, I tend to think it is actually
• 36:13
  Speaker 5: activist teachers putting their bias into the classrooms, as we've
• 36:15
  Speaker 5: seen a million times, and we do know from research
• 36:18
  Speaker 5: that the way to reduce anti Semitism is to actually
• 36:21
  Speaker 5: tell people the stories, educate people, make them understand, so
• 36:24
  Speaker 5: that we don't have a generation growing up thinking that yeah,
• 36:28
  Speaker 5: it's okay to have an anti Israel perspective or an anti.
• 36:31
  Speaker 6: Semitic perspective on things.
• 36:32
  Speaker 5: This is just a complete buckling by teacher.
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: Just quickly. I'm going to disagree that it's woke teachers.
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: There was a teacher in France in twenty twenty who
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: was beheaded after it was alleged he showed a photograph
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: of Mohammed in a civil studies class. Then in twenty
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: twenty one there was an English teacher who's still in
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: hiding to this day after he showed the Charlie Hebdo
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: magazine cover. That was the end of his life effectively.
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: And now in the UK you're not allowed to show
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: any of that stuff in class without getting permission from
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: higher up because it's so fraught with danger.
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: I don't know that this is.
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: A woke story rather than a case of teachers being afraid.
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: I think two things could be true at once.
• 37:14
  Speaker 4: It's probably true that there is an element of woke
• 37:17
  Speaker 4: teachers who don't want to wade into that stuff themselves
• 37:20
  Speaker 4: because they have an agenda to push. But I also
• 37:22
  Speaker 4: have a lot of sympathy for the argument you're making
• 37:24
  Speaker 4: that teachers actually do feel afraid in some classrooms to
• 37:27
  Speaker 4: talk about the Holocaust and other elements of Jewish history
• 37:30
  Speaker 4: because they're worried about the retribution that they will.
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: Face for doing so.
• 37:35
  Speaker 4: You know, it sounds like the animals are running the zoom.
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: All right, We're going to go to a break.
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: When we come back, Well, look at what's making headlines
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: in tomorrow's papers. You'd think Anthony Albanezi would stop telling lies.
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: But there's another one that's on the front page of
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: the papers tomorrow.
• 37:49
  Speaker 3: We'll show you after this Welcome back to the program.
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: Before we get to the papers, breaking news out of Washington,
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: Donald Trump has sought to clarify increasing unrest within his
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: Republican base around his sudden cease fire deal with Iran.
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: The President has posted on truth Social in the last
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: hour this message. He says, despite their protestations and false
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: statements to the contrary, coupled with the drumbeat of fake news,
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: which is doing everything possible to make the US victory
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: as small and insignificant as possible, Iran has fully and
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: completely agreed to highest level nuclear inspections long into the
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: future infinity. This will ensure nuclear honesty. If they do
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: not agree to this, there would be no further negotiations.
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: Based on this and other major concessions being made by Iran.
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: I've agreed to allow the Jumuz Straight to remain open
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: with no further naval blockade. However, all ships are remaining
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: in place should it be necessary to reinstitute the blockade,
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: which seems at this point highly unlikely. The money and
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: or sanctions that the US Treasury is releasing goes into
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: a scrow control by the USA and will be used
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: by the purchase of food and medical supplies exclusively from
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: the United States, including corn, wheat, and soybeans from our
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: great American farmers. These are things that are desperately needed
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: by Iran. This is a humanitarian crisis, and I feel
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: it's necessary to help now.
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: Before it's too late.
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: Talks are going well, Thank you for your attention to
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: this matter, President Donald J.
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: Trump.
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: Irana going to allow highest level nuclear inspections. We've been there,
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: done that, haven't we.
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: Well. I mean, at least they're going to get us soybeans.
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: And corn and corn, and the US will get money
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: for their soybeans.
• 39:41
  Speaker 4: I'm not sure that that will allay some people's fears,
• 39:43
  Speaker 4: but anyway, we shall see.
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: How that goes.
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: Oh, by the way, I've.
• 39:47
  Speaker 4: Received some messages during the ad break, and one from
• 39:51
  Speaker 4: a woman on Twitter who says that Caleb and James
• 39:53
  Speaker 4: are hot and sexy in relation to the story we
• 39:56
  Speaker 4: were doing earlier about the chap in the UK was
• 39:59
  Speaker 4: abdictive hat in newspapers, and a Sky News host who
• 40:02
  Speaker 4: shall remain unnamed has texted me to say that I'm hot.
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: So there you go.
• 40:07
  Speaker 4: It's all happening here on the late debate tonight. We'll
• 40:10
  Speaker 4: be talking to hr tomorrow on the message during the break,
• 40:17
  Speaker 4: Danika is exonerted.
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, it was a joke. It was a joke,
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you all right.
• 40:22
  Speaker 4: On one of the Daily Telegraph tomorrow it says under
• 40:25
  Speaker 4: the Green thumb labor strikes Rubby deal with Greens on
• 40:28
  Speaker 4: tax grab. Anthony Albanezi has again been accused of lying
• 40:33
  Speaker 4: after doing a dangerous deal with the Greens for the
• 40:36
  Speaker 4: swift passage of the capital gains tax and negative gearing reforms.
• 40:39
  Speaker 4: The package will now pass, including an exemption to prevent
• 40:43
  Speaker 4: self managed super funds borrowing money to purchase residential investment properties.
• 40:49
  Speaker 4: Why shouldn't self managed super fund be able to borrow
• 40:53
  Speaker 4: money to buy a residential investment property. I'm not sure
• 40:56
  Speaker 4: whether the Greens realize, but the purpose of a super
• 41:00
  Speaker 4: fun self managed or otherwise is so that you don't
• 41:03
  Speaker 4: then have to rely on the government teat in retirement,
• 41:07
  Speaker 4: which is good for the government, right, But now they're
• 41:10
  Speaker 4: saying no, no, actually will make it harder for you
• 41:13
  Speaker 4: to be self sufficient when you get to retirement. Maybe
• 41:16
  Speaker 4: this is all part of the government plan, or the
• 41:18
  Speaker 4: Greens plan anyway, But what a joke.
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: Unrelated to this story, but why is there no talk
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: about the leadership of Larissa Waters, considering there's all this
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: political upheaval and the Greens vote is just.
• 41:32
  Speaker 5: Well, it's funny you mentioned that. I don't know about you,
• 41:35
  Speaker 5: but just speaking of that, I never see Larissa Waters
• 41:38
  Speaker 5: ever do a press conference. I see Sarah Hanson Young
• 41:40
  Speaker 5: out there all day every day.
• 41:42
  Speaker 6: Where is Larissa Waters?
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: Shoebridge is out there, and shoe Bridge.
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: Is out there.
• 41:48
  Speaker 6: Yeah, not bad, That was all right, That was all right.
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: But you're not just hot, you're smart.
• 41:54
  Speaker 6: Well, god, jeez, I'll tell you what.
• 41:57
  Speaker 5: Let's take a look at the Australian Now video of
• 42:00
  Speaker 5: nurses cut from anti semitism trial twist in case that
• 42:04
  Speaker 5: shocked nation, as we've been covering all day and night
• 42:07
  Speaker 5: on Sky News, a viral video of two Sydney nurses
• 42:10
  Speaker 5: allegedly making vile anti Semitic threats to kill Israeli patients
• 42:14
  Speaker 5: has been excluded from court proceedings after a judge found
• 42:18
  Speaker 5: it was unlawful to record and share the private conversation.
• 42:21
  Speaker 5: As the defense raises the specter of the case being dropped.
• 42:24
  Speaker 5: In an extraordinary ruling, New South Wales District Court Judge
• 42:27
  Speaker 5: Michael mceuton Thursday.
• 42:30
  Speaker 6: Michael mceuton on Tuesday.
• 42:32
  Speaker 5: Rather declared the video, which has been viewed millions of
• 42:34
  Speaker 5: times and has been shared globally, was inadmissible and could
• 42:38
  Speaker 5: not form part of the evidence against the pair. I mean, look,
• 42:43
  Speaker 5: I just find this absolutely extraordinary, to be honest, and
• 42:48
  Speaker 5: I'm still I have been trying all night to try
• 42:51
  Speaker 5: and understand this decision by this judge, and I don't
• 42:57
  Speaker 5: understand the logic behind it. I thought, is there what
• 43:02
  Speaker 5: legal parameters would prevent this.
• 43:05
  Speaker 6: From being used?
• 43:06
  Speaker 5: Given the case was centered around the comments allegedly made
• 43:11
  Speaker 5: in this video.
• 43:12
  Speaker 6: I do not understand it.
• 43:13
  Speaker 3: It's the legality of the recording, isn't it correct?
• 43:17
  Speaker 4: And it's not been fully explained though exactly I understand
• 43:21
  Speaker 4: it was I legally recorded.
• 43:22
  Speaker 5: Fine, you can't record somebody without the permission, but I
• 43:25
  Speaker 5: don't get it.
• 43:25
  Speaker 4: But then it was recorded in Israel, it wasn't recorded here,
• 43:28
  Speaker 4: and so there's there are many layers to this. But
• 43:31
  Speaker 4: as Chris Merritt notes in The Odds tomorrow, and he
• 43:33
  Speaker 4: noted with Caroline Marcus earlier this evening, we've not really
• 43:37
  Speaker 4: actually been told what has happened here soon.
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: No, it's a very curious case.
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: Speaking of curious cases, the front page of tomorrow's Adelaide
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: Advertiser has a really interesting court case engaged in murder.
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: Woman's abuse drove fiance to suicide court hears.
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: The article reads a woman.
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: Allegedly caught on CCTV assaulting her partner, stabbing a knife
• 44:02
  Speaker 2: into a wall by his head, and telling him to
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: kill himself before he did, is now charged with his murder.
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: The original charge had been manslaughter, but it's been upgraded
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: to murder, I assume because the prosecution will argue that
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: she drove.
• 44:20
  Speaker 3: Him to kill himself. So it will be very interesting
• 44:24
  Speaker 3: to hear how that plays out. I don't think I've
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: ever heard of a case like that.
• 44:28
  Speaker 6: No I have.
• 44:28
  Speaker 5: There was one, I think it was in the United
• 44:31
  Speaker 5: States and evolved I think teenagers from memory and she
• 44:35
  Speaker 5: ended up being charged because she was constantly telling her.
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: With murder or manslaughter, murder because.
• 44:41
  Speaker 5: She constantly told him to take his own life and
• 44:45
  Speaker 5: it was and eventually he did.
• 44:47
  Speaker 3: Well.
• 44:48
  Speaker 4: It'll set to be an interesting legal case to follow.
• 44:50
  Speaker 4: And of course, if any of this talk has raised
• 44:53
  Speaker 4: any issues for you, you can call lifeline. On thirteen
• 44:56
  Speaker 4: eleven fourteen on the front of the Courier mail tomorrow
• 45:00
  Speaker 4: talking about the state budget up in Queensland, it says,
• 45:02
  Speaker 4: kicking it down the road, the state government has plotted
• 45:05
  Speaker 4: a course to a wafer thin surplus by the end
• 45:07
  Speaker 4: of the decade in a no frill state budget built
• 45:10
  Speaker 4: on sneaky changes to timings for infrastructure spending, a half
• 45:14
  Speaker 4: billion dollars savings target for the state's public sector in
• 45:17
  Speaker 4: the heart of Treasurer David Janiski's second budget, which also
• 45:21
  Speaker 4: banks on increased revenue for more traffic cameras, of course,
• 45:25
  Speaker 4: funds from U Eastcootle laws, of course, a hike in
• 45:29
  Speaker 4: the waist levee, of course.
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: And letting debt collectors off the leash.
• 45:33
  Speaker 4: The major cost of living announcement is a fifty dollars
• 45:36
  Speaker 4: increase to the back to school boost to one hundred
• 45:38
  Speaker 4: and fifty dollars for every.
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: School age child.
• 45:41
  Speaker 4: But isn't this a tricky little thing where you basically
• 45:44
  Speaker 4: say we'll move the spending further down the line so
• 45:49
  Speaker 4: that in the short term the budget looks better.
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: If only we could all do that with our.
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: Household exactly all right, Australian singing, Great Darryl braithwait has
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: announced his retirement from public performance. After the break, we'll
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: argue where the Horses was really that good of a song? Well,
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: as I said before the break, Daryl Braithwaite has announced
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: he won't be doing any more public performances. He says
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: physically it's become too difficult to sing and it's taken
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: all the joy out of it. He is, after all,
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: seventy seven years old. It's a great shame because he's
• 46:25
  Speaker 2: got so many hits. This is his best one cannot
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: beat as the days go by. I don't care what
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: songs you guys have prepared.
• 46:40
  Speaker 3: That is his greatest hit.
• 46:42
  Speaker 4: Actually, I do agree with you because obviously Horses is
• 46:45
  Speaker 4: normally nominated by people, Oh you know the I actually
• 46:48
  Speaker 4: don't think it was that great of a song myself.
• 46:50
  Speaker 5: I think it's just become popular now because it's played
• 46:52
  Speaker 5: all the time. I think One Summer was a good one.
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, on Horses.
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: He was asked why was it such a great hit,
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: and he says, I've talked of the guys that wrote it,
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: and none of us can figure out why it was
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: so good.
• 47:03
  Speaker 4: Really.
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: The other thing I'm going to mention as the days
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: go by. You know who did backing vocals for that song,
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: John Farnham.
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: There you go?
• 47:10
  Speaker 3: Well wow, I mean there, well dropped the mic.
• 47:13
  Speaker 5: Like I tell you what, I'm surprised you knew that
• 47:15
  Speaker 5: normally you don't know anything about music, David jamesbro Well, okay,
• 47:19
  Speaker 5: So I'm going to go through our favorite Dazzerbee songs,
• 47:22
  Speaker 5: and I actually personally preferred his time in Sherbert. I
• 47:26
  Speaker 5: remember those days, and this is my favorite Sherbert song, Silver.
• 47:36
  Speaker 6: Make how's that suiting that haircut?
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: They got?
• 47:42
  Speaker 6: Silvery Moon? I love Silvery Moon. I think it's a
• 47:44
  Speaker 6: great song.
• 47:45
  Speaker 4: I once caused a bit of a rackus because I
• 47:47
  Speaker 4: wrote in the pages of the Herald Son that Darryl
• 47:50
  Speaker 4: Braithwaite was an aging rocker who peaked in Sherbert, which.
• 47:55
  Speaker 1: Was probably a little bit harsh.
• 47:56
  Speaker 4: But I do think he did some of his best
• 47:58
  Speaker 4: work in sub because I was so as by the Horses,
• 48:01
  Speaker 4: Like the horses just really annoys me, despite the rest
• 48:04
  Speaker 4: of his body of work. And one I've picked is
• 48:08
  Speaker 4: one of the songs, one of the two songs that
• 48:10
  Speaker 4: went to number one for him.
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: The other one is the.
• 48:12
  Speaker 4: Bloody Horses, but his version of Your My World that
• 48:16
  Speaker 4: he released in nineteen seventy four, and he performed that
• 48:26
  Speaker 4: on Countdown, which you know, back in the day meant
• 48:29
  Speaker 4: you were guaranteed a number one, and so it did,
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  Speaker 4: spent three weeks at number one in nineteen seventy five,
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  Speaker 4: certified gold, and he won Best Male Vocalist at the
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  Speaker 4: Australian Music Awards that year for his version of Your
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  Speaker 4: My World.
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  Speaker 1: So there you go to one of two number ones.
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  Speaker 5: He's stick to the cella black Come on, I'm mean, seriously,
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  Speaker 5: Rock are.
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  Speaker 1: You going a bit derby downer on the bloke tonight?
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  Speaker 5: Well, you know, look, speaking of singers, Elvis his final
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  Speaker 5: concert back in nineteen seventy seven.
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  Speaker 6: It's come back in the news.
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  Speaker 5: Because if you'd like a conspiracy theory, be interested in
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  Speaker 5: this because people say that there was a time traveler
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  Speaker 5: in the crowd. Now have a look at this photo
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  Speaker 5: we're going to show you on the screen. Now, some
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  Speaker 5: eagle eyed viewer thought that this woman or I don't
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  Speaker 5: know if he is a woman holding up what appears
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  Speaker 5: to be a smartphone back in nineteen seventy seven. Now,
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  Speaker 5: I mean, like that photo there looks like a smartphone,
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  Speaker 5: but it could just be a camera, could be a
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  Speaker 5: recording device. But people say, you know, to time travelers exist.
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  Speaker 3: This would be the dumbest time travel in history.
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  Speaker 2: Why would you travel back to the seventies with a
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  Speaker 2: mobile phone when there were no mobile phone towers?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I know it wouldn't work.
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  Speaker 4: It is. Come on, who the hell's coming up with
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  Speaker 4: this crap about it? It looks like it's either a
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  Speaker 4: dictor phone or I don't know, maybe it was some
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  Speaker 4: widow who had to transistor radio.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, probably they good to hear him.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know. But phone time traveler react.
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  Speaker 2: We're all time travels. We're just going in one directions
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  Speaker 2: that you must stick around. Coming up is the Reader
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  Speaker 2: Penney Show.
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  Speaker 1: Good Night,